Totally my fault! I broke the tractor again!
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- Totally my fault! I broke the tractor again! Join me today as we make repairs to the Ventrac tractor and test it out! I broke 2 spindles and we have to replace them. It's a good time wrenching on the farm!
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The spindle looks like there is a relief valve on the opposite side from the grease fitting.
Ed Lukowski it is a relief valves for excess grease
@@BillCoSmith, Exactly, pump it full until the grease comes out of the relief vent.
@@augustreil Fresh grease, preferably.
@@TheTomBevis, Agree 100%
@@augustreil I just wish there wasn't so much useless void to fill.
My wife is my farmhand. We are 68 and she has helped on the farm our whole married life. She can operate all equipment -- we work great together and especially like pecan harvest time!
My wife and I get along and she is a great help. I help her and she helps me. Been doing it for over 50 years.
My wife and I worked together landscaping for my sister’s garden shop business and I tell you what, that woman surprised me with her capabilities and I had a newfound respect that lasts to this day. Amazing girl she is ❤️
The second blade that goes over the main blade is to keep grass from wrapping around the spindle. Simple yet very effective. Worth it’s weight in gold on the Tough-cut deck! I love my Ventrac.. everything is so well designed.
Working with my wife.....took my 10,000 times longer to explain the tool I needed than just getting it myself. A+ for bringing me beer when needed!!! Got to love them.
I'm not a mechanic, I'm a sheep farmer and I do a lot of work on my own but when it comes to recording, paperwork, tagging I always work with my wife. She is precise and accurate to my blunt force approach. I'd be lost without the ying to my yang.
Never ever worked out with my wife...cause she can´t think "mecanic"...but other than that I Love Her till death since 45 years. Love from Sweden!
My wife and I work on our car together all the time. She wants to learn and do things. She can change the fluids . And if we get a flat, she can change that too, Biggest tire so far she has done on her own are 31's on our Bronco. I showed her how to use a lever to get it back onto the studs instead of trying to lift it in her hands.
Hi..... Thank you 🎥👍👍👍
Accidents happen, equipment breaks, it just makes it that much more of a farm Josh. Great video!
Make sure the deck is not damaged too. Sometimes if the spindle takes a really hard hit, it can also mess up the deck.
Thank you because of your plugs for "keeping It Dutch", I am now Subbed to it. Now I can watch many differant small farm/homesteaders channel. Enjoy the time I spend watching all of tjem, just wish there was more time in the day.
When I got my first place, I broke so many spindles from hitting stumps, the parts guy eventually gave me a spray can of red paint to mark all the hazards.
I know what you mean. I lost count on the spindles also. I've changed blades on my wife's Craftsman riding mower because it was curled into a U shape. I would sit my backhoe bucket on the ground and fill it with rocks without moving it. I've still got work to do but it's a lot better now.
Hey, Josh. If you're wondering about the grease fittings, there's this thing called RUclips where you can look up videos on how to fix stuff. Maybe Vintrack has posted a video about it. ;oD
Yep....but what fun is that? I'm gonna open them up!!!
Josh,that's one of the down falls of the Vintrac or any other mower where your mower deck is out front it gets to it a lot sooner. Less chance to see it, on a bigger tractor your up higher, better to see stuff, 3pt mowers your driving over it before giving you a chance to stop. But don't matter what you hit a rock with somethings gotta give. Great video,& thanks for showing everything. Ok back to work.
Yep, that's what happens with cast aluminum spindles, I was always shattering mine too. My Swisher T60 5 foot finish mower has steel spindles, I have yet to break one and I've put a ton of hours on it. I've seen people custom fab up steel spindles to replace there aluminum ones, might want to look into that.
That grease zerk fills the spindle housing with grease which in turn greases the bearings. Pump it with grease until it comes out the breather. Some bearings have 2 rubber seals, some have 2 metal ones, some may a combination. Either way, pump those housings full.
So the Ventrac has been put to the test on the Stoney Ridge Farm and from everything you have shown us it's done a fabulous job. I am curious as to why there would not be some type of shear pin for the spindles? Unless the spindle is designed that way for this reason. Either way, the farm looks outstanding, 🚜-Woooooo!!!
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My boyfriend and I do farm work all the time, we get along good 😀
My son broke a spindle on my Husquvarna garden tractor and it was not cheap to replace. I know you spent a pretty penny on that Ventrac. My wife and I don't work well together because she does not take orders well. LOL
lol.....mine doesn't either lol
FYI sealed bearings are great. It keeps debris out of the bearings. The failings of some manufactures is that they install bearings both top and bottom of the spindle. That's fine... its just that they do not remove the 'inner' seal so that when you put grease in to the grease zerk it would actually get to the bearings that will need it. Other wise you just fill the cavity with grease and then the bearings fail cuz.... no grease.
Its well designed with a engineered stress point with the circle of holes in the hub. This will save you from twisting the deck. That would be harder to repair because if the alignment of the shafts are out and it will throw belts.
Like Meatloaf says"Two out three ain't bad" .
Ventrac is not the average homestead tractor, but very well suited for your place.
Yeah me and my girlfriend worked on my push mower together she didn’t like working on lawn care equipment but it worked out great and we got along great with it
Aluminium housing design is great....yeah..the spindle housing got to give way to save other parts..... Thanks Josh.....hope Vantrac owner did not see....lol...
Wow!! I am so glad that I'm not the only one that screws up!!
LOL. The "Stupid Should Hurt" shirt was a fitting choice.
Single now, but when I was with my ex I'd always help out in the shop. Great times and lots of fun memories. 🔧⚙
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When I was married I was the best helper, sidekick, and wife. 👍😇
grease in the spindles with sealed bearings is to keep moisture out and yes you can grease sealed bearings. If you want to know how just ask........
I’ve done almost the same thing just bent my shaft. It’s part of the business. I enjoy fixing as well as working, keep it up Josh
Wow! The drone footage of the new pond is lovely! I’d like to see more homesteads take pride in their farms appearance! Whoooooo
When we were younger we worked on projects together but it was hard for me to keep my hands off of her because she was stunning but we managed to get the job done.
Josh my wife and I stripped a 64 1/2 mustang to the frame and rebuilt it ground up loved every moment of it.
All those rocks? Must be a conspiracy, Josh. Mrs will sometimes hand me things while I’m servicing the cars - we get along fine in that setting.
You’re content creation is killing it josh. You’ve come so far on so many levels, great work!
Great job.👍 and your place looking good
My wife always helped me under a car to change gearboxes or working in my shed we get on great .
The grease fittings lube the shaft, the bearings support it and are sealed. nice video as always. I didn't see your new blades.
That grease zerk fills the spindle housing, which in turn grease the bearings from the inside, even if they are sealed.
Although putting the blade back on and using the pipe was a definite way to hold the pully still, it dose take time. It might well have worked to just put something like a wedge of some sort under the belt as it enters the pully. This way as it turns the wedge will tighten the belt and stop it from turning. May not always work depending on the traction you get on what you use as a wedge. But it takes little time to try it and will save a lot of time when it does work. Keep in mind that I have not personally worked on a tractor like this before, but I have used this on other things. ;-}}
Love the drone flight showing your property!! Beautiful!!
Good quality spindles will have the bearings sealed on the outside and open on the inside from what I understand. If you have one that is sealed on the inside it is only a shield and can be pulled off without damaging the bearing.
Not a good idea to remove the inner seals, especially on the top bearing. By doing so, when the grease gets hot, it will not stay in the bearing. Leave the seals in and pump it full of grease until it comes out of the top and or bottom. There almost always is a big washer that covers the outside bearing seal, protecting and keeping them from blowing out from greasing. I've done the trick you're talking about 25yrs ago and does not benefit the bearing whatsoever. It's actually worse. Edit: Grease will push through both the inner and outer seals with no damage to them, thus filling the bearing cavity.
Like you said about the sealed bearings on the new spindals…..I came across the same video that one guy had put up.So in 2015 I rebuilt the deck on my JD lawn tractor.I took apart the new spindals that I sent for on Ebay…..sure enough sealed bearings on the inside too.I was able to peal out the seal with a pick and grease the spindal….now the grease can feed the bearings.I brought this up to this one guy at my local JD dealer and asked him about this.Only one guy knew anything about the idea of what I was talking about and what good does a grease fitting on a spindal do if grease cant get to the ball bearings.I compared the price I paid on ebay...to what JD wanted.It was quite a difference.From then on I dissected my new spindals from then on and passed on the information to my friends.Then this guy at the JD place called me and said one day he took one apart....and found that the seals were in place on the insides of the new bearings he stocked.He said he will start passing on the info.I asked him....why not ask the people who designed this....call them up and demand to know why........Wooo
Not a good idea to remove the inner seals, especially on the top bearing. By doing so, when the grease gets hot, it will not stay in the bearing. Leave the seals in and pump it full of grease until it comes out of the top and or bottom. There almost always is a big washer that covers the outside bearing seal, protecting and keeping them from blowing out from greasing. I've done the trick you're talking about 25yrs ago and does not benefit the bearing whatsoever. It's actually worse.
Edit: Grease will push through both the inner and outer seals with no damage to them, thus filling the bearing cavity.
looking to see if you tear the spindle down. is that a plug or a pressure relief on the side?? you wouldn't have to tear it down, just grease and see if if its a relief
I use a 2x4 to jam between the blade and deck when removing them. Works like a charm. Work on projects with SWMBO (She Who Must Be Obeyed) all the time. She breaks it and I fix it. Teamwork! Woohoo!
You don't call it Stoney Ridge Farm for no reason! It happens, take care.
Most spindles are greasable because the inside of the bearings are not sealed. I would be careful not to align the blade with the grease fitting it would be a little easier to get to the fitting.
Next time use a pipe wrench on the top of the belt pulley and FYI the goop is not to keep it in place it's anti seize lube it is to keep it Fromm seizing on the shaft
Hi mate thanks for the info watching for a while didn’t comment before I run a garden service in Melbourne Australia for the last 26 years thanks for information on all the different things you come across thanks Colin
Never as simple as you would like
Have a good evening 🌻🌻🌻
If you have time to make a video about taking the spindle apart and check where the grease goes and if it even works would be awesome!
It goes inside the spindle and greases the bearings from the inside and it works.
Now this is more like it. Very interesting to watch you handle repairs on the Vintrack Mower.
I would have tried a power washer on the underside of the deck but that wire brush did get the grunge off. I hope the zerk fittings work for real otherwise a simple bolt is a lot less and won't fool you into thinking you need to get the grease gun on the spindles.
Those spindle housings are made to be greased via the zerk fitting.
you should take a bearing out to see if it is sealed on both sides ,if so take one side off on the greese fitting side so that when greesed it will lube the bearing .the big problem with decks .engineered to fail.
...been nice to see that fire up!
I have my oldest daughter helping me replace the rear end on a 2000 ram. Fun
You pull out the key, the keyway is the slot in the shaft that the key goes into. And wouldn't it have been easier to pressure wash the underside of the mower deck, thus cleaning the whole thing instead of just the bolt heads ?
Well, we still love you. Remember, slow is good Mr. Overachiever.
You really did a number on those spindles. Your rocks are a lot harder than our sandstone.
Cool video. That Ventrax is quite a machine. Enjoyed the video. Thanks 👍👍👍❤️
My wife and I were both in the service and we do but heads on projects but I think we work very well together.
Hey Josh thanks for the video I enjoyed it just try to be more careful with the ventrac next time then you should be good to go
Josh, something to share with you that I just discovered. You got a bunch of grass to cut like I do. I have a bunch of bahia mixed with mine and blades dull in no time. I would use my grinder to sharpen them but never could get them back to what they were. They finally got so bad I would replace them. I came across another youtube channel that was talking about Allamericiansharpener.com. I went ahead and got one. The first sharpening took a while in order to rebuild the edge correctly. But after that only a couple of passes are needed. It's a jig that keeps you at the proper 30 degree angle. My cuts look a lot better now and my cutting speed picked back up because it was cutting with less load on the mower. At $60 a pop for blades and going through a 2-3 sets a year, I'll recoup my $200 investment in no time. I'm hoping I can bring it down to a max of one set a year. Time will tell on how much metal remains to safely use the blades at the end of the cutting season. Just something I wanted to share that you might want to look into.
When me and my wife are doing projects yes we do get along very well I am a small engine mechanic and I’ve been doing it for a long time
You have definitely sold one of those! That’s just great...too easy! Well ya definitely knocked some paint off her and she’s still truckin’
I work with my wife all the time, even more so now I'm in a wheelchair. I even got her changing a cambelt with some instruction.
My wife runs every machine on our operation we do custom cutting and baling we run cows hay and some crops for feed stuff breaks on all of them but I don't think that thing is quite tough enough for what we mow it's more for a small landowner I think anyways Its really a bit small for you as well but I know you do gardening and lots of yard jobs with it
Ma ma mia.....the impact was great.....
That was awesome. I just learned something new. Thanks for sharing
When you grease a spindle with sealed bearings remove the plug on the opposite side of the grease fitting, then grease the spindle until clean grease comes out of the plug opening then install the plug, done.
Josh, I think we work on projects well together. But MJ may not think the same. Lol. Enjoyed the repair.
Shoulda gave it a few squirts of spray paint where you wire wheeled to bare metal.
I agree
I'd love to have a ventrac! I wonder if there would be a market for a 40 to 50hp model, heavy enough to handle a front end loader and bales of hay?
Hi Stony Ridge farmer! Seen as you wanted questions id thought id ask, instead of having heaps of different machines and implements that only are suited to one machine, how come you didnt just get a tracked skid steer and use it for everything. It could do mowing, clearing, fencing, forks for unloading, trenching, digging etc as well as youd have less compaction on your land and quicker and easier attachment changeout, aircon cab etc.... Or do you just prefer tractors? TIA
I be those spindles were expensive! Good video.
Maybe you should've pressure washed the deck before working on it. Then use the wire brush, just an idea for you. Enjoy watching Stoney Ridge.
After 20 years of marriage...I have learned to manage repairs. Latest project...built a vanity drawer using a table saw.
Maybe you didn’t show it, but did you paint those exposed areas after that power wire brush cleaning?? I’m pretty sure you did after watching how you care for your equipment. Keep up the great vids
Dad did same thing to his aluminum housing broke on Steiner. I think they are halfway designed to do that. But I would have thought belt would break before housing
Those spindles aren't cheap :)
Dont forget nevercease on pulley to spindle makes it a lot easier to get pulley off. Nobody does it from factory. I do all my bolts also
@@neilramseyer5348, Everything I work on gets Never-Seize. Everything, unless it's a Harley, they get Blue Loctite.lol
Hey man from Ireland love your chanle watching your stuff for along time were a small island Lin Ireland well done
Get a 1/2” Milwaukee high torque impact you’ll throw them breaker bars away
Hit the wrench/ratchet with a rubber mallet and it will shock the bolt free without having to jam it most of the time
If it’s a sealed bearing in there all the grease is for just to keep the water out mostly
Guys, I never saw a relief valve on a spindle below the deck, mostly because they won work in all the dirt, moisture, and rust, most of you know that your lucky if the grease fitting works unless you grease it after every use. So most large spindles have a plug on the opposite side of the grease fitting not a relief valve and the bearing are only sealed on the outside. The plug has 2 purposes, one is that if when you install the spindle and the grease fitting is in a bad location you can swap it with the plug to a possible better position and second as I said before, you remove the plug and grease the spindle until clean grease flows out of the plug hole this this method tells you that enough grease has been added and also prevents you from blowing the outer seals out then reinstall the plug. When the spindle is then rotated at speed the grease will be sent into the bearings.
I own a ventrac the bearings are not sealed the spindle is sealed by those two gold washers 1 on top one on bottom
The grease fitting is for greasing the spindle itself, not the bearing. The spindle will gould otherwise. That goes for the axle on those front tires as well.
On every spindle housing I've rebuilt, the zerk is for greasing the bearings. Why would a spindle need grease ? It's the bearings that hold the spindle that needs the grease.
Because a sealed bearing doesn’t take grease from a fitting, however the shaft through the spindle still needs to be greased
@@shawnhagen6871, A sealed bearing will take grease, trust me, they do. And they will take grease without ruining the seals. I have 6 walk behind mowers of my own for the last 25 yrs. That zerk, at least on all my spindle housings is for the bearings. The bearings are what holds the spindle shaft in place.
Have you ever seen pillow block bearings ? The zerk on those grease the bearing directly, not the shaft running through it.
Edit: The grease that is pumped into the spindle housing first fills up the housing itself until it reaches the bearings.
I’m sorry you have so many walk behind mowers
@@shawnhagen6871, I'm sorry you don't understand how bearings and grease work. The reason I have so many mowers is because, get this, I OWN A BUSINESS.
I have found the bottom bearing does not have a top seal just the bottom outer seal. So you do need to grease it. The top bearing is fully sealed. Makes some sense. If the top bearing didn't have a bottom seal, the grease would just fall out. You wouldn't want to pack the spindle so full of grease to keep grease in the upper bearing. There would be no air cavity to allow for thermal expansion.
kb7722 his spindle has a relief valve for excess grease
Bill Smith that just means you lose grease each heat cycle. Again based on the ones I’ve taken apart and even saw some on RUclips take apart, the upper bearing is fully sealed. So no need to pump the spindle full of grease. Just need enough to cover the bottom bearing.
kb7722 I agree
Wife Some times good and some time Not. It depends on the project. I have broken two spindles on my JD deck and replaced them it was easier than changing the belts.
It doesn’t work when she try’s to help because I expect her to know my next move and I don’t have the patience of Jobe so... I am sorry Mrs. Skinner Farms!
I have the same machine the grease fittings work
I’d search for a total deck rebuild before I buy part for part because you will spend a lot more money a deck rebuild kit will come with all new blades belt and three spindles for prolly the price of 2 spenders or a spender and the blades if you can find the deal for it some where online
Kind of appropriate that you are wearing that T shirt.
Pond is filling up hope to see a video on that soon.
When I bought my finishing mower I also bought steel spindles that will last much longer than cast ones. Don't know if they are available for your machine.
Maybe next time hit it up with the power wash be for you take in side to work on it
Hate to nitpic but that big swivel head breaker bar is a ratchet, not a breaker bar. Breaker bars are solid, they never ratchet.
See if you can replace with non magnetic spindles, usually the older ones are less magnetic, if you install brand new spindles the rock magnets are still quite strong, they suck Rocks right in and destroy themselves 😥
How much did the spindles cost. The jd 72 finish mower deck spindles run about 250$ apiece I have been looking in to ventrac ray from Oregon