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I agree with you that the mine is the center of all the weirdness and water causing mass psychosis… but that won’t explain the connection with season 1 and Thuttle family cult sacrifices … there was super natural elements with yellow king. I think like Rose said there’s a difference between mental health & spirit world and we may be dealing with both. But if this is anything like S1, we won’t know the super natural answers, if any.
at the end where Jodie Foster get call to go to go look at bodies, camera shows outside of trailer and you hear a moaning voice...it sounds like its saying " I CAN'T DIE YET, I CAN'T DIE YET" I could not make out what the female moan was saying tho.
i like how they developed the dialogue between the various people in ennis. you can tell they've known each other since forever and they are comfortable being borderline rude if not outright rude to each other, and they talk about the past with just a few key words with no explicit explanation, just like how real people talk about past things.
@DannyJuke, some reviewers have been supplied with all 6 episodes. I have seen German reviews which covered the whole season. But most RUclipsrs choose to make the most of it and review each episode as soon as it was aired. Nothing wrong with that approach. And some RUclipsrs didn't binge watch the 4th season. They watch it just like us episode by episode because when they do their reviews they don't want to be influenced by what's going to happen next. I have seen German reviews of the whole season which were very positive! Let's hope that they got it right 😉 I am cautiously optimistic.
@@jackdavinci, you are right! I have seen reviews which covered the complete 4th season. But RUclipsrs can create more videos if they analyse each episode separately. Nothing wrong with that. And I have seen many very helpful reviews which explained a lot of things which I hadn't noticed or didn't understand when I watched the first episode. Since I have not seen the previous three seasons of "True Detective", I am not familiar with the style and the iconography of the show, yet. For some reason I was never sufficiently interested in the show. But I was willing to give the 4th season a chance because of Jodie Foster! She is one of my favorite actresses, and after watching the first episode I wasn't disappointed! She hasn't lost her mojo 😀 Maybe, I will watch the first season of "True Detective" eventually. But right now I prefer not to be influenced by previous seasons. Many fans seem to be disappointed because they feel that the first season was so great that everything which followed is inferior.
I think of the woman in the crab factory who is asked to look at the image of the spiral, she gives it a quick look and leaves the scene, but she does it in a strange way and the shot pays some attention to it, at least it seems so, if there is something that true detective has taught us it is not to leave these apparently random encounters to chance, or perhaps the series wants to mislead us by making us notice it, in any case she didn't convince me very much
I agree, this is the first comment I’ve seen touch on this detail. In season one, when they interviewed the big ugly guy with the scar on his face, nobody suspected him either, i know i sure didn’t until later on, but that lady’s face immediately changed from almost appalled/confused to a cold & blank stare which I think has some significance.
@@dianegreyson8787Yes it's shot waaay too similarly to Childress from the first season, they are definitely involved. I think they're all responsible for the deaths of the men, they were probably up to shady stuff and this was their revenge.
well but she's asked if she things the spiral as any devil/witchcraft meaning and she's called Blair Like in the Blair Witch Project. I think it's just another nod to terror classics.@@hi.favored
When Rose is gutting the wolf, there is an eerie howl and the radio voice said "is there anybody there" It immediately reminded me of Pink Floyd's "Is there anybody out there?" from " the Wall"
Spiral from season 1 is always pointing to the left while season 4 is always pointing to the right. So they always mirror each other. This might be the biggest clue that names like "Travis Cohle" and "Tuttle" still have meaning but almost in a kind of alternate universe sort of way.
@@durkdiggler4346 The guy who was talking about the “Golden Eagle” trialer he purchased? Said he purchased it from his “cousin” before he died of “bone cancer.” I heard some people speculate that his cousin may be Rust. Did Rust have cancer in S1?
After episode 1, I looked up Inuit legends. Sedna was a beautiful girl who refused to marry the man her father chose. He took her out in a kayak to throw her into the water for her disobedience. She held onto the side of the kayak and he chopped off her fingers, which became sea creatures. She sank to the ocean floor and became the goddess of the SEA and the UNDERWORLD. This is the picture Darwin drew, and it explains Clark saying "She's coming." Also ties in w/the mine & Rose seeing Travis's ghost. I haven't finished watching season 1 yet; so interesting how these two seasons are connected! What a great series! Video was vert interesting.
After seeing the abandoned trailer, I’m starting to lean on Raymond Clark using witchcraft and perhaps sacrificial rituals to bring back Annie after she was killed. The life size doll and symbology in the trailer not only served as a shrine, but also maybe a method of resurrection. Coupled with the the lab searching for ancient life capable of curing disease, perhaps even reanimation. Tuttle United being attached to the lab further illustrates the lengths they’ve gone to perhaps expand their ritualistic capabilities, and find the key to immortality while continuing blood sacrifices. After this episode I’m hooked, and sad that’s it’s only four episodes left to the season.
Agreed… thats what I thought anyway… the whole “shes alive” like he tried to re-animate her in some way. That seems way too supernatural for True Detective, but 🤷♂️ who knows
@@crd88918 Yes, he says 'She's awake,' not 'alive' as several people say; it's at 59 seconds in this very video. It may or may not basically mean the same thing, hopefully we eventually find out exactly what he meant.
There is something about the cold and no sun days that add a spooky element to this. Reminds me of The Thing and a supernatural movie thriller The Last Winter.
I think we will see the corneas being 'burnt' by cold (immersion in freezing water) It happened to a friend of mine attempting a world record underwater swim under ice. Immersion would also explain why their eardrums are burst. It only needs about 6-10m of water to do that.
The most relevant theme from The King in Yellow, which is where "Carcosa" comes from, is that of people who read a book that tells tales about the place; people must search obscure, arcane texts to determine the precious magical spells to summon the King, who presents a book to them, which is a variation of the medieval and romantic age superstitions of the devil providing a book that people must sign a book to sell him their soul. After reading the King in Yellow's book, they go mad. The theme, to be more clear, is about people searching for hidden knowledge using forbidden or dangerous means, like magic. Magic was what we used to call science. To me, there are obvious parallels to Clark, who has searched for hidden knowlege by digging too deep into the sea bed, extracting slices of the earth's core. The mine is doing the same thing, digging into the earth and sending most of the town into a hidden place (Carcosa?); the miners are bringing back the black water which is damaging the residents with poison. I am thinking that perhaps Clark has been poisoned by some ancient organism from one of the slices Tsalal unearthed that might have gotten into the water, causing him to hallucinate and/or remember abuse he suffered at a Tuttle school as a child, and his hallucinations caused him to see Annie as some kind of monster, which led to him killing her viciously. When he returned to the Tsalal station, he had pretty much lost his mind. The twist to this story is that this ancient organism is linked to some kind of supernatural being or event, either real or simply legends that are supported by the physical realities of magnetic radiation. In Season 1, we never real found out the truth about the Tuttles or the cult; we saw bits of video, heard about their family tree, and learned about their horrible abuse of children; Rust Cohle sees it all as part of the darkness that owns the majority of our lives. Here we have no children (so far), but a place which is now owned by literal darkness. Perhaps here we will learn the literal truth about the Tuttles, but I don't think so. I think we will learn the solution to the murders and/or suicides of the Tsalal employees and Annie K. but the truth about the supernatural will be left up to us.
Didn't think about it till now but a big part of it could be that Liz knows how the miners feel about the natives and doesn't want Leah to be targeted the same way that Annie was. Especially with that trailer shot of Leah seemingly joining the protest against the mine, I think Liz really just doesn't want to see Leah get hurt.
Exactly what I thought. She doesn't want her to be tattooed like Annie & other Indig women who've gone missing/ been murdered Or like Navarro's sister who may be victimized since she's extra vulnerable
Louisiana-Ennis link tho? Did Cohle feel "called" to work homicide in small town LA bc he felt the same spiral of evil? Or are Cohle's involved somehow? Didnt Louisiana have trouble w toxins from the refineries? Were they owned by Tuttles?
Same here. You can tell it's messing with everyone's hormones. Like the guy can't orgasm when boning Jodi Foster, the daughter being a lesibian, and that male bartender being super feminine, while Foster's counterpart is high in testosterone
it'll all turn out to be political, environmental garbage. this show is full of it. the mine will be found to be polluting/contaminating the water. much like is happening in canada and the U.S. the spiral connection is all a smokescreen. it exists here because rust brought it here. the camper was his, and he likely left lots of stuff in there. annie and the clark guy became obsessed with it, after finding it all in the camper they bought.
I think so too! Season 1 made it an overt point, particularly through Rust's POV, that the supernatural (ie: religious rhetoric ) does not exist. I cannot reconcile S1 Rust Cohle with what S4 is suggesting that he is. The answer to everything is probably simple and grounded in reality.
You said "paradoxical hypothermia" but what you meant to say was "paradoxical undressing". When people fall into paradoxical undressing, I don't think they fold the clothes, they are delirious and not thinking straight, they strip the clothes off and throw it to the ground, at least that's my understanding.
When the night has been too lonely And the road has been too long And you think that love is only For the lucky and the strong Just remember in the winter Far beneath the bitter snows Lies the seed that with the sun's love In the spring becomes the rose 3rd verse of "The Rose"
I am loving this so much, you really help me pick up on things I missed while watching. I think choosing "Seven devils" as the ending scene song was important.
Rewatching S1 now. While I’m making an effort to keep an open mind, and love the main cast in S4 so far, I doubt anything can capture the lightning-in-a-bottle that was the perfect television of S1. Still, pleased they’re linking up and, perhaps, returning to the series’ roots. 🤴
The circles or "Annie's Eyes" in Clarks notes remind me of season 2 when Frank is lying in bed staring at the ceiling and sees 2 water stains. He then tells the story to his wife about being locked in the basement in the dark for 5 days with the rats while his father was in jail on a drunk and disorderly charge.
In s3, remember they mention Rust and Marty in a news paper cutout? So all of TD is taking place in the se universe, which begs the question: when are Liz and Navarro going to start making connections between Tuttle and the yellow sign and the Childress case in Louisiana?
how the spiral being said to be old than ennis, probably older than the ice itself? correct me if i’m wrong, but is this the first time a character has spoken to seemingly knowing the symbol and its origins? she made a point of mentioning it to navarro, even drawing it out
Awesome breakdown. I think we are going to see a pretty heavy redemption arc with our detectives like we saw in S1. The fact there's nothing on file that Travis had leukemia makes this a whole lot more interesting for sure
Remember when Rust saw spirals and other hallucinations/visions in season 1? I think Rose sees things too, she may not be his birth mother, but I think she's very connected to Rust.
Well, they told us in season one that "time is a flat circle." These darknesses repeat themselves eternally... but so does the light.... "If you ask me, the light is winning." ❤ Rustin Cohle
I found it noteworthy that in the scene with Rose and Navarro that Tim Buckley's "Song to the Siren" is playing fairly prominently at Rose's house. Sirens were female creatures who lured sailors to their deaths with their siren song - shipwrecked on the rocks and drowned in the sea. It's another clue (for the viewers) among many, but I have to wonder if there's a siren in all this and who that might be. Was she the one who lured the scientists to their deaths - even if it was a murder rather than simply "drowning" (freezing)? And maybe the reindeer mass suicide (dashed on the rocks) and maybe the dead body found early in E1, an apparent fall from a great height?
Loving this season so far, particularly the tie-ins to season 1. To me, it's going to have a scientific and potentially supernatural explanation similar to what we saw at the end of season one.
I thought the tie ins were very shoehorned and are pretty dumb overall. The Tuttle clan held power in their state, now they are funding science expeditions in Alaska? And the spiral symbol just represented boy love aka pedophiles now it's this mystical symbol that seems supernatural? You can tell this show wasn't meant to be part of True Detective and when they attached it they tried to shoehorn in the references.
@@TrophyGuide101it was pretty clear the death cult and Tuttle family had prestige and power that reached outside the state. It wouldn’t be surprising to see them trying to find a way to cure disease and lengthen life if they were part of a cult seeking to ascend to Carcosa, which was their goal and was part of Rust’s vision when he was fighting the serial killer. The Yellow King, the ruler of Carcosa, was supposed to the cosmic big bad behind the actions of the cult at least according to their beliefs. Having the hint of a supernatural tie-in is similar to season one. My guess is there will be a grounded answer to the reason behind what’s going with the possibility of something pulling the strings behind the veil.
@@TrophyGuide101 Season two was also a cult. With Animal heads and videos and blackmail. Season three was also missing kids and big business. There is a common thread in my opinion not just shoehorned easter eggs. The characters can't see it in their bubbles but we are in the position of god's with our overview. State senators dont just hold power in a state. Like Rust said "this things got spread". The spiral represented the "vortex" that Rust saw. Which we know the cult saw because they are using it everywhere. This whole thing is one giant twist in the end I bet. Although if they do a season five I might just start agreeing with you.🙄
I don't recall Rust hinting at impending death in season 1. Also, if he and his dad moved to Alaska I wouldn't expect he'd have any cousins already living there.
When he reunited with Marty and they were working together Rust said something like his life had been an endless string of misery and that he was "ready to tie it off". I always thought this was pointing towards ending his own life, but a cancer diagnosis would definitely put things in a different perspective!
This show is written by a different writer, but he is continuing the story of S1 regardless. That's why it is inconsistent. Different visions, different writers.
One thing I think may be missed is Navarro runs over, what looks like corpse under ice, something when she begins to leave the voicemail for Jules. During the Spice Girls song.
Am I misremembering or did you see a head sticking out of the snow on the road during the intro? I watched the intro a couple more times and couldn't find what I remember seeing. I think you are right if so.
@@RepEvox when I first saw it I thought it was a head as well but you can’t really make it out. It’s at about the 35 min mark of the show for anyone interested.
I don't know if anyone has pointed this out but does Navaro's sister have Bipolar disorder? If so, she could be prescribed lithium. That puts a literal metal in her blood and brain. If there are magnetic changes and fluctuations going on, that could be altering and affecting the movement and concentration of said Lithium within her brain. She grabs her head as if in pain on the first episode and she seems to be undergoing some pretty significant mental changes for the worse. If someone has more knowledge on this in relevant fields, I'd love to hear your input. Is this theory completely crackpot?
That doesn't make sense. It's an alkali metal and not magnetic in the sense you expect it in the first place, and secondly, the medication is made of lithium salts that are not magnetic. And don't forget, we already have other elements in our body (especially iron) that are potentially magnetic. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium) Do we actually know what the mine is mining (officially)? I sadly can't watch the show and have to rely on recaps like this one.
I think you missed the facial expression of the girl, with the black eye in the crab factory, after she sees the spiral, that the older woman invited her over to see, when Danvers asked.
If the supernatural isn't involved (which I hope it isn't) then the only logical explanation is that Rose knows more than she says/remembers. How else could she have found the bodies if she wasn't already aware that they were there?
Or Rose had seen the footprints or even the heads of the scientists from afar before, but at first she didn't pay attention to them on a conscious level. But later, on a subconscious level (in the form of "Travis"), - she did.
As soon as they said Tuttle I literally screamed. I knew those fkers were all over, but where in Ennis are they hiding is the question. As always another stellar review!
Paradoxical undressing which is caused by hypothermia not paradoxical hypothermia. Basically, you are usually not a good judge of if you have hypothermia because you begin to feel warm.
I want to know why Liz is so racist toward the Inuit when she was clearly married to one, had a son, has a step daughter, and lives and works with many. It seems so counterintuitive and really strange to literally be living in their world and yelling at the elder for drawing on marker tattoos etc.
I think it is more like resentment. I am leaning towards it has something to do with the deaths of her husband & child. Like the Beetles music, it triggers her deeply. She was also sent there against her wishes, more resentment. Time will tell.
Hank definately being catfished by his "Russian Bride" Tsalal might be working on cloning, but that seemed less likely to me by the time I got to the end of the episode.
I just finished season 1 again. I don't think Rust is dead; I think he's coming back. They end the show declaring him unkillable. Also, in the final episode the same eye on woody is busted up as on the polar bears. That might be a stretch, or maybe little bear _and_ big bear are coming back.
This is great as I don’t have Max and would love to see the show! I’ve watched your 3 recaps. Egads, I love Jodie Foster! Looks like a very good show, I recall when it was announced and started filming, forever ago…! I was anxious around when it would actually air. Seems to be living up to the hype and I just read that ratings have risen with each episode. No theories yet as I’m just learning whassup…!
Does this mean Leah's father and half brother were killed by a drunken driver? Or perhaps Leah's father was stoned or drunk and killed his and Danvers' son in a DUI? Leah also said Danvers may hove gotten stoned, Maybe Danvers killed her husband and son. Is that why she hates drunks now and is overprotecting Leah because of guilt? Although she seems like a total control freak and a narcissist.
I don't think Tsalal is doing what everyone says they're doing. Here's why: Mining is a little like the core sampling. They're kinda similar. Also, I'm to believe that these half dozen scientist are doing a thing that a high school teacher knows won't work, is that the case? I think they weren't worried about microbes at all.
Yeah, the claim of ancient microbes having the capabilities to heal modern days human illnesses sounds far-fetched. Tbh, when you apply for a fund to conduct a study, it does sound like exactly the shit you would write in. It's a rather generic claim, but everyone knows the probability is low. You always have to include some benefit for humans besides gaining knowledge.
If you could get the govt to pay for prospecting under the guise of scientific research, that'd be sweet. "Oh hey, cobalt! What a pleasant, neat surprise!"
Also, if you stabbed someone with a straight-ish deer antler, what would that look like? I've never had the pleasure. I'm looking for star-shaped things.
Yes! Like these were all super smart guys so they must’ve known the bounds of their research. I also found it suspicious how they did the paradoxical undressing. I know it was a survival thing but they must’ve known removing their clothes was not a good idea. They are scientists so I’m sure they were aware of the dangers of the cold
Navarro was so intense about Annie's murder case, somebody got pissed and wanted her dead. And when a drunken Wheeler rammed into Navarro's vehicle, he killed Liz's son and husband who were in the car at the time. Liz holds Navarro responsible for their deaths.
You tagged on the bones being related to the antlers, but the crown the antlers go in was on the countertop next to the smashed cellphone. You can see it a few times in this video.
The old lady, whos dead spouse guided her to the frozen scientists, probably does NOT have hallucinations and she seems to be able to distinguish mental health and spiritual things very well. If her son was a hallucination then well, these hallucinations are VERY helpful and spot on about finding things that need to be found. What a coincidence huh?
The boat that Ani left on for Venezuela was called "Great Escape", One of Steve McQueen best movies. Season 3 started with "The day Steve McQueen died"
Just watched. Agree with Van Allen radiation belts and mining being related so far. Noted the spiral was drawn from a different angle in the Golden Eagle trailer, not from directly above as it appears in tattoo form, but more of an isometric view? Perhaps related to how astronauts have to plot their path through the lightest radiation for safe return. Also noted a background detail on the hockey rink’s walls. A sponsor by the name of Blue King. Good stuff!
I think this one takes place present day. Season 1 ends in 2012 iirc. Kohle’s dad was already in Alaska, and he’s the only definite crossover character with the possible exception that the only women we’ve seen marked with the spiral previously were sacrifices. Did the dead girl escape from something in Louisiana? Or as the reporter in season 3 was speculating based on info from a website that maybe that case was related to the one from season 1 maybe the cult existed in other places and she escaped on of those?
🌀NOTICED something during the episode but nobody seems to mention yet. If you go to around the 13:30 mark of this video it shows what I noticed. Clark’s notes all start in ordinary block lettering, but slowly throughout and after the circle drawings at the bottom he’s writing entirely in cursive! I thought this detail was pretty ingenious!
The kid's drawing is probably the legend of Sedna, a woman who had her fingers cut off and sank into the ocean. "Sedna is the goddess of the sea and marine animals in Inuit mythology, also known as the Mother of the Sea or Mistress of the Sea. The story of Sedna, which is a creation myth, describes how she came to rule over Adlivun, the Inuit underworld"
this would line up with the cornea damage, freezing and ruptured eardrums, you could be on to something. Maybe something is found by Clark at the station, which is why he bought the camper, then tried to bring back Annie making her a version of Sedna. I am excited to see where this goes.
In Season 2 in the Safe room above the "Black Rose bar" is a bouquet of yellow roses, and the picture Frank shows to Ani of Jordan has a yellow tint to it.
15:26 Not 'a random dude' that is the scientist Anton Kotov, who is found dead in the Corpsicle. So that footage of him must be a flashback, or a supernatural scene as ghost ... or ...
Big bear and Little bear...Ursa Major and Ursa Minor. Ursa Major and Polaris are on the State flag of Alaska and Polaris, the North Star, is part of Ursa Minor...Little Bear and big bear missing eyes and have star shaped wounds.
I look forward to seeing how they include more spiritual and native cultural elements. I think they’re doing a lot of misdirection through the indigenous or Inuit population, but maybe just specifically the cleaners - showing them in overlooked jobs, as dv victims, as meek - as if they’re trying to make us think they’re nobodies, background people. The scene where the two worker women are asked about the symbol showed they knew much more as well. Seeing since we heard mention of the folklore “monster” - could they be involved in the corpsicle since it seemed ritualistic? Liz obviously avoids anything reminiscent of her husband and son, and that’s part of it, but her absolute disdain for the culture seems like a storytelling choice. I think it foreshadows that she will need to get close and comfortable with the culture/people to get the answers.
Also take a look at Sedna, Goddess of the Sea, in Inuit culture. The sea - toxic water? She could control the animals; so as to not allow hunters to eat. The caribou in the beginning scenes with the hunter… Polar bears in Inuit culture were said to be intelligent and most like a man - in fact some beliefs were that they were men that would shed their polar bear skin when they got home. These may be what the story has for spiritual answers, or believers’ experience, when they juxtapose them with real-life explanations. Season one did this with Hestia, ruler of the cosmos, virginity and sacrifice. The bad guy who [initially] takes the fall, Errol, is also an overlooked simpleton.
Can someone explain the scene where Navarro runs over some snow in her car and then she reaches somewhere in the car and pulls out a crucifix? I don't understand that scene. Where did the crucifix come from?
@@Overonator Like I said, x random scene. She was weirdly trying to reach her phone again but instead weirdly grab & found her mom's crucifix. Why I said weird? It has been many years of her using the car, but somehow surprised & only found it at that moment?? Not only that, I am pretty sure a person's crucifix meant a lot to the owner, so even family member wouldn't just lost it or placed it willy nilly. As for what may represent thematically. She was clearly still haunted by her mom's passing & it could also be her outright rejection to spirituality/christianity.
@@crozraven I have an idea: as she drove over the snow in the road the car got jostled and she dropped her phone and started feeling around for it and found the crucifix pendent that made her flashback to her mentally ill mom having an acute mental health episode.
Something in the water, the final scene in the second episode ends with Florence + Machine - Seven Devils, lyrics starts with "Holly water cannot help you now".
Loved this, but a tiny flub at 15:40. You mention Navarro telling Jules she wouldn't send her "Back to the Lighthouse" but Jules has never been to the Lighthouse. She was hospitalized in their previous town before moving back to Alaska. Navarro even tries to explain the Lighthouse isn't like the other hospitals.
This season turns to be pretty much a sequal to s1. TD always works with metaphors, and given that the yellow sign keeps turning up everywhere it seems all of Ennis might be Carcosa, with the poisoned water being the Yellow Kings spell.
I forgot that Lund was a structural biologist. He would have had to have access to liquid nitrogen to freeze his crystals before sending them off to a synchrotron for X-ray diffraction. The closest one is the Canadian Light Source in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan. It’s interesting because the resulting crystal would be derived from whatever the heck they pulled from the permafrost. It’s probably a detail they’ll never follow up on but I’d be curious what the CLS sent back to him. The world may never know.
Anyone notice the drawing of the "Earth's layers" looks A LOT like the spiral drawing? They're both strangely triangular. No fanbase at this is a coincidence.
i noticed that too and was looking for someone else to mention it. Was thinking maybe the spiral symbol could represent a 'map' of sorts, signifying that whatever is at the center of the cult, is towards the center of the Earth. Could possibly be where a portal or vortex to Carcosa is located, similar to the one Rust saw at the end of S1. It also could explain why the Tuttle family expanded their corporation into mining
What about the song that is playing in the truck when he's dropping supplies off in the beginning of episode one? The lyrics are "I've been watching you for a long long time"? I'm sure this song wasn't picked randomly.
I haven’t read comments, but anyone notice it’s an exact excerpt from The Dark Tower? “The fabric of things is thin and the world is old” is almost word for word. They called spots like that a Thinny. And guess who was The Man in Black, aka Red King? Matthew M. And they also had similar facilities at the Beam stations in Dark Tower. Then there’s “The gunslinger fled across the desert, and the man in black followed.” It’s literally called The Wasteland. If that’s not an Ennis type place, nothing is. In season 1, the Iron Crusader dude literally said “I need a gunslinger.” Again, Roland was literally the last Gunslinger.
The opening scene In Season 2 Ep 3 when Ray is sitting in the bar with his father. There is an Elvis ( The King) impersonator and he is lip syncing to Conway Twitty's Cover, of Bette Midler's song "The Rose" On a side note, Matthew McConaughey is an Elvis fan and is the voice for Agent Elvis.
Yes please I need to understand a bit more - like when the man starts shaking and making that sound like he is possessed? And it had only just started to be dark in the beginning (first episode) so they wouldn't have started to lose their minds so quickly would they? And the reindeer from the first episode etc. It's a great mystery, I am just dying to know where they are going. I want to understand more of what is going on in the trailer at the end of the second episode? It def gave me Silence of the Lamb vibes when Foster's character goes into that storage place with her flashlight and finds the head in the jar, seeing her go into the trailer with her flashlight def felt like an ode to that which I thought was very cool.
I think thw Tuttle family found something on Alaska that could be related to their cult, consodering the symbol and how Rose said the symbol is older than the ice, that is very At fhe Mountain of Madness/The Thing.
Someone else is applying the paint to Leah's mouth. If you look at the angle of the hand you can see the thumb tucked under. And the fingers look older. Maybe Danvers applies it.
If what they did was paradoxical undressing, they wouldn't have folded their clothes. They would have ripped them off frantically. They wouldn't even be capable of neatly folding them in a row like that.
2 episodes in. Are we dealing with something supernatural or can everything be explained... with science?
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True Detective Season 3 Ending Explained: ruclips.net/video/VQljeqzppjs/видео.html
I don’t think it’s supernatural, despite what we’ve seen. It doesn’t fit anything from the other seasons.
I agree with you that the mine is the center of all the weirdness and water causing mass psychosis… but that won’t explain the connection with season 1 and Thuttle family cult sacrifices … there was super natural elements with yellow king. I think like Rose said there’s a difference between mental health & spirit world and we may be dealing with both. But if this is anything like S1, we won’t know the super natural answers, if any.
she's NOT a good detective, but she thinks she is
@@toshcameron366 who? Hows that related?
at the end where Jodie Foster get call to go to go look at bodies, camera shows outside of trailer and you hear a moaning voice...it sounds like its saying " I CAN'T DIE YET, I CAN'T DIE YET" I could not make out what the female moan was saying tho.
The guy encased in ice waking up gave me a jump scare almost exactly like that of the guy waking up in Se7en. Both creepy as hell.
I think he could have found the key to eternal life they were searching for.
I had to rewatch that part 10 times, freaky!!
jeah, its so horrible i cant wait for more episodes to watch. 😊
Why didn’t mention they mention it at all afterwards?
@@drugsdelaney2907they did. They said he's in a coma and being prepped for surgery. They won't be able to talk to him for a while.
i like how they developed the dialogue between the various people in ennis. you can tell they've known each other since forever and they are comfortable being borderline rude if not outright rude to each other, and they talk about the past with just a few key words with no explicit explanation, just like how real people talk about past things.
it is a very small town so obviously everyone knows everyone
Dude, how do you get these videos out so fast? Super grateful for your work. Thank you.
I don't know if it's the case here, but reviewers are often sent copies early so they can prepare reviews in time
Bro I was thinking the same thing 💯💯
Critics usually get advanced episodes
@DannyJuke, some reviewers have been supplied with all 6 episodes. I have seen German reviews which covered the whole season. But most RUclipsrs choose to make the most of it and review each episode as soon as it was aired. Nothing wrong with that approach. And some RUclipsrs didn't binge watch the 4th season. They watch it just like us episode by episode because when they do their reviews they don't want to be influenced by what's going to happen next.
I have seen German reviews of the whole season which were very positive! Let's hope that they got it right 😉 I am cautiously optimistic.
@@jackdavinci, you are right! I have seen reviews which covered the complete 4th season. But RUclipsrs can create more videos if they analyse each episode separately. Nothing wrong with that. And I have seen many very helpful reviews which explained a lot of things which I hadn't noticed or didn't understand when I watched the first episode. Since I have not seen the previous three seasons of "True Detective", I am not familiar with the style and the iconography of the show, yet.
For some reason I was never sufficiently interested in the show. But I was willing to give the 4th season a chance because of Jodie Foster! She is one of my favorite actresses, and after watching the first episode I wasn't disappointed! She hasn't lost her mojo 😀
Maybe, I will watch the first season of "True Detective" eventually. But right now I prefer not to be influenced by previous seasons. Many fans seem to be disappointed because they feel that the first season was so great that everything which followed is inferior.
the state the bodies were found in, aswell as the neatly laid out clothes remind me a lot of the Dyatlov pass case.
I think of the woman in the crab factory who is asked to look at the image of the spiral, she gives it a quick look and leaves the scene, but she does it in a strange way and the shot pays some attention to it, at least it seems so, if there is something that true detective has taught us it is not to leave these apparently random encounters to chance, or perhaps the series wants to mislead us by making us notice it, in any case she didn't convince me very much
I agree, this is the first comment I’ve seen touch on this detail. In season one, when they interviewed the big ugly guy with the scar on his face, nobody suspected him either, i know i sure didn’t until later on, but that lady’s face immediately changed from almost appalled/confused to a cold & blank stare which I think has some significance.
@@dianegreyson8787Yes it's shot waaay too similarly to Childress from the first season, they are definitely involved. I think they're all responsible for the deaths of the men, they were probably up to shady stuff and this was their revenge.
well but she's asked if she things the spiral as any devil/witchcraft meaning and she's called Blair Like in the Blair Witch Project. I think it's just another nod to terror classics.@@hi.favored
I noticed this as well, she said no, and hurried off, her face was kept in frame for a second. It has to be intentional.
we were right at the end!!!! (:
When Rose is gutting the wolf, there is an eerie howl and the radio voice said "is there anybody there"
It immediately reminded me of Pink Floyd's "Is there anybody out there?" from " the Wall"
Rust Cohle also told the Detectives interviewing him to "start asking the right fucking questions" at the end of Season 1 Episode 1 I believe.
Yes! How could I forget that
Exactly
Spiral from season 1 is always pointing to the left while season 4 is always pointing to the right. So they always mirror each other. This might be the biggest clue that names like "Travis Cohle" and "Tuttle" still have meaning but almost in a kind of alternate universe sort of way.
But Rust said in S1 that his dad was named Travis.
@@joejones8776 and he lived in Alaska with him...
@@durkdiggler4346 The guy who was talking about the “Golden Eagle” trialer he purchased? Said he purchased it from his “cousin” before he died of “bone cancer.” I heard some people speculate that his cousin may be Rust. Did Rust have cancer in S1?
@@joejones8776 He def seemed weaker than usual in older age with Marty so it's possible
@@joejones8776 It seems the showrunner confirmed that Travis is in fact Rust's father.
After episode 1, I looked up Inuit legends. Sedna was a beautiful girl who refused to marry the man her father chose. He took her out in a kayak to throw her into the water for her disobedience. She held onto the side of the kayak and he chopped off her fingers, which became sea creatures. She sank to the ocean floor and became the goddess of the SEA and the UNDERWORLD. This is the picture Darwin drew, and it explains Clark saying "She's coming." Also ties in w/the mine & Rose seeing Travis's ghost. I haven't finished watching season 1 yet; so interesting how these two seasons are connected! What a great series! Video was vert interesting.
Blair is missing fingers on her right hand
After seeing the abandoned trailer, I’m starting to lean on Raymond Clark using witchcraft and perhaps sacrificial rituals to bring back Annie after she was killed. The life size doll and symbology in the trailer not only served as a shrine, but also maybe a method of resurrection. Coupled with the the lab searching for ancient life capable of curing disease, perhaps even reanimation. Tuttle United being attached to the lab further illustrates the lengths they’ve gone to perhaps expand their ritualistic capabilities, and find the key to immortality while continuing blood sacrifices. After this episode I’m hooked, and sad that’s it’s only four episodes left to the season.
Agreed… thats what I thought anyway… the whole “shes alive” like he tried to re-animate her in some way.
That seems way too supernatural for True Detective, but 🤷♂️ who knows
Love this
@@mjriemeni think he said she’s awake
Clever thinking huskytype! And he did say she’s alive
@@crd88918 Yes, he says 'She's awake,' not 'alive' as several people say; it's at 59 seconds in this very video. It may or may not basically mean the same thing, hopefully we eventually find out exactly what he meant.
There is something about the cold and no sun days that add a spooky element to this. Reminds me of The Thing and a supernatural movie thriller The Last Winter.
I think we will see the corneas being 'burnt' by cold (immersion in freezing water) It happened to a friend of mine attempting a world record underwater swim under ice. Immersion would also explain why their eardrums are burst. It only needs about 6-10m of water to do that.
The most relevant theme from The King in Yellow, which is where "Carcosa" comes from, is that of people who read a book that tells tales about the place; people must search obscure, arcane texts to determine the precious magical spells to summon the King, who presents a book to them, which is a variation of the medieval and romantic age superstitions of the devil providing a book that people must sign a book to sell him their soul. After reading the King in Yellow's book, they go mad.
The theme, to be more clear, is about people searching for hidden knowledge using forbidden or dangerous means, like magic. Magic was what we used to call science. To me, there are obvious parallels to Clark, who has searched for hidden knowlege by digging too deep into the sea bed, extracting slices of the earth's core. The mine is doing the same thing, digging into the earth and sending most of the town into a hidden place (Carcosa?); the miners are bringing back the black water which is damaging the residents with poison. I am thinking that perhaps Clark has been poisoned by some ancient organism from one of the slices Tsalal unearthed that might have gotten into the water, causing him to hallucinate and/or remember abuse he suffered at a Tuttle school as a child, and his hallucinations caused him to see Annie as some kind of monster, which led to him killing her viciously. When he returned to the Tsalal station, he had pretty much lost his mind.
The twist to this story is that this ancient organism is linked to some kind of supernatural being or event, either real or simply legends that are supported by the physical realities of magnetic radiation.
In Season 1, we never real found out the truth about the Tuttles or the cult; we saw bits of video, heard about their family tree, and learned about their horrible abuse of children; Rust Cohle sees it all as part of the darkness that owns the majority of our lives. Here we have no children (so far), but a place which is now owned by literal darkness. Perhaps here we will learn the literal truth about the Tuttles, but I don't think so. I think we will learn the solution to the murders and/or suicides of the Tsalal employees and Annie K. but the truth about the supernatural will be left up to us.
I think Liz was mad about Leah's tattoo because it makes her look like Annie, whom she can't stop thinking about.
Didn't think about it till now but a big part of it could be that Liz knows how the miners feel about the natives and doesn't want Leah to be targeted the same way that Annie was. Especially with that trailer shot of Leah seemingly joining the protest against the mine, I think Liz really just doesn't want to see Leah get hurt.
In that scene you can see Leah has polar bear earrings on. I don’t think it means much but thought that was interesting.
at 13:57 you can see the photo of Annie with the tattoo mark
Exactly what I thought. She doesn't want her to be tattooed like Annie & other Indig women who've gone missing/ been murdered
Or like Navarro's sister who may be victimized since she's extra vulnerable
Louisiana-Ennis link tho? Did Cohle feel "called" to work homicide in small town LA bc he felt the same spiral of evil? Or are Cohle's involved somehow? Didnt Louisiana have trouble w toxins from the refineries? Were they owned by Tuttles?
A Lone Star beer on the table next to the popcorn was Rust's favorite beer.
I’m under the impression the water is having effects on people in the town but we won’t know until towards the end of the show.
Same here. You can tell it's messing with everyone's hormones. Like the guy can't orgasm when boning Jodi Foster, the daughter being a lesibian, and that male bartender being super feminine, while Foster's counterpart is high in testosterone
it'll all turn out to be political, environmental garbage. this show is full of it. the mine will be found to be polluting/contaminating the water. much like is happening in canada and the U.S.
the spiral connection is all a smokescreen. it exists here because rust brought it here. the camper was his, and he likely left lots of stuff in there. annie and the clark guy became obsessed with it, after finding it all in the camper they bought.
I'm thinking that too there mist be a leak from the mine and people in the town have slowly been ingesting it.
Yeah its definitely going to be something so obvious like a chemical leak. Cant believe this is the big mystery they are going with.
I think so too! Season 1 made it an overt point, particularly through Rust's POV, that the supernatural (ie: religious rhetoric ) does not exist. I cannot reconcile S1 Rust Cohle with what S4 is suggesting that he is. The answer to everything is probably simple and grounded in reality.
You said "paradoxical hypothermia" but what you meant to say was "paradoxical undressing". When people fall into paradoxical undressing, I don't think they fold the clothes, they are delirious and not thinking straight, they strip the clothes off and throw it to the ground, at least that's my understanding.
I watch these episode breakdowns immediately after the episode and apparently i miss so much its like i didn't even watch the episode
Definitely need a rewatch to catch everything
When the night has been too lonely
And the road has been too long
And you think that love is only
For the lucky and the strong
Just remember in the winter
Far beneath the bitter snows
Lies the seed that with the sun's love
In the spring becomes the rose
3rd verse of "The Rose"
The spiral marking did remind me of S1, but Travis being Rust's father and all the connections to the Yellow King and S1 are blowing my mind!
I am loving this so much, you really help me pick up on things I missed while watching. I think choosing "Seven devils" as the ending scene song was important.
I jus rewatched season 1 before the new season
Seems like that was a good idea
Me too, looks like both seasons are connected
My next move
any clue to share
Rewatching S1 now. While I’m making an effort to keep an open mind, and love the main cast in S4 so far, I doubt anything can capture the lightning-in-a-bottle that was the perfect television of S1. Still, pleased they’re linking up and, perhaps, returning to the series’ roots. 🤴
Excellent breakdown!
I thought he missed a few valid points.
You do an amazing job of dissecting episodes! Thank you and yay, we got the OG video ending clip of “Daddy Loves You”
Before I forget I want to say I think Hank is in on the cult, and he knows exactly what’s going on with the town.
Why do you say that..?
The circles or "Annie's Eyes" in Clarks notes remind me of season 2 when Frank is lying in bed staring at the ceiling and sees 2 water stains. He then tells the story to his wife about being locked in the basement in the dark for 5 days with the rats while his father was in jail on a drunk and disorderly charge.
Thanks for recapping the episodes, I look forward to seeing all the details you discover.
In s3, remember they mention Rust and Marty in a news paper cutout? So all of TD is taking place in the se universe, which begs the question: when are Liz and Navarro going to start making connections between Tuttle and the yellow sign and the Childress case in Louisiana?
The fact they are trying to tie these together is so stupid. The original creator even said as much.
how the spiral being said to be old than ennis, probably older than the ice itself? correct me if i’m wrong, but is this the first time a character has spoken to seemingly knowing the symbol and its origins? she made a point of mentioning it to navarro, even drawing it out
Awesome breakdown. I think we are going to see a pretty heavy redemption arc with our detectives like we saw in S1. The fact there's nothing on file that Travis had leukemia makes this a whole lot more interesting for sure
I initially came here for the recaps, new subbed too. ❤ the non-spoiler clues!
Remember when Rust saw spirals and other hallucinations/visions in season 1? I think Rose sees things too, she may not be his birth mother, but I think she's very connected to Rust.
Well, they told us in season one that "time is a flat circle." These darknesses repeat themselves eternally... but so does the light.... "If you ask me, the light is winning." ❤ Rustin Cohle
I found it noteworthy that in the scene with Rose and Navarro that Tim Buckley's "Song to the Siren" is playing fairly prominently at Rose's house. Sirens were female creatures who lured sailors to their deaths with their siren song - shipwrecked on the rocks and drowned in the sea. It's another clue (for the viewers) among many, but I have to wonder if there's a siren in all this and who that might be. Was she the one who lured the scientists to their deaths - even if it was a murder rather than simply "drowning" (freezing)? And maybe the reindeer mass suicide (dashed on the rocks) and maybe the dead body found early in E1, an apparent fall from a great height?
I wonder if it’s a sound weapon or something like the dyatlovs pass incident where the hills made a certain noise that drove them insane
Loving this season so far, particularly the tie-ins to season 1. To me, it's going to have a scientific and potentially supernatural explanation similar to what we saw at the end of season one.
Extrapolate.
I thought the tie ins were very shoehorned and are pretty dumb overall. The Tuttle clan held power in their state, now they are funding science expeditions in Alaska? And the spiral symbol just represented boy love aka pedophiles now it's this mystical symbol that seems supernatural? You can tell this show wasn't meant to be part of True Detective and when they attached it they tried to shoehorn in the references.
@@TrophyGuide101it was pretty clear the death cult and Tuttle family had prestige and power that reached outside the state. It wouldn’t be surprising to see them trying to find a way to cure disease and lengthen life if they were part of a cult seeking to ascend to Carcosa, which was their goal and was part of Rust’s vision when he was fighting the serial killer. The Yellow King, the ruler of Carcosa, was supposed to the cosmic big bad behind the actions of the cult at least according to their beliefs. Having the hint of a supernatural tie-in is similar to season one. My guess is there will be a grounded answer to the reason behind what’s going with the possibility of something pulling the strings behind the veil.
@@TrophyGuide101 Season two was also a cult. With Animal heads and videos and blackmail. Season three was also missing kids and big business. There is a common thread in my opinion not just shoehorned easter eggs. The characters can't see it in their bubbles but we are in the position of god's with our overview. State senators dont just hold power in a state. Like Rust said "this things got spread". The spiral represented the "vortex" that Rust saw. Which we know the cult saw because they are using it everywhere. This whole thing is one giant twist in the end I bet. Although if they do a season five I might just start agreeing with you.🙄
it's a flop... too much pushing this women empowerment agenda
I’m wondering about nods to “The Thing”. The frozen body diorama, the sound made by the survivor….
The isolated research station….
At least parts of it are meant to evoke those feelings, a video case of The Thing is literally shown in the 1st ep.
Intentional for sure but a red herring I bet.
@@richardk2594 yeah, wouldn’t be surprised. As with other seasons and shows like this, tons of red herrings. Speculation is all over the place
I also thought of fortitude, that series a few years back.
I don't recall Rust hinting at impending death in season 1. Also, if he and his dad moved to Alaska I wouldn't expect he'd have any cousins already living there.
When he reunited with Marty and they were working together Rust said something like his life had been an endless string of misery and that he was "ready to tie it off". I always thought this was pointing towards ending his own life, but a cancer diagnosis would definitely put things in a different perspective!
This show is written by a different writer, but he is continuing the story of S1 regardless. That's why it is inconsistent. Different visions, different writers.
@@snow8199he’s talking about suicide
Great work man I'm glad this video was available... because I knew I remembered that tuttle name before in the series
One thing I think may be missed is Navarro runs over, what looks like corpse under ice, something when she begins to leave the voicemail for Jules. During the Spice Girls song.
Am I misremembering or did you see a head sticking out of the snow on the road during the intro? I watched the intro a couple more times and couldn't find what I remember seeing. I think you are right if so.
@@RepEvox when I first saw it I thought it was a head as well but you can’t really make it out. It’s at about the 35 min mark of the show for anyone interested.
Maybe it is the missing guy , Clark
I don't know if anyone has pointed this out but does Navaro's sister have Bipolar disorder? If so, she could be prescribed lithium. That puts a literal metal in her blood and brain. If there are magnetic changes and fluctuations going on, that could be altering and affecting the movement and concentration of said Lithium within her brain. She grabs her head as if in pain on the first episode and she seems to be undergoing some pretty significant mental changes for the worse. If someone has more knowledge on this in relevant fields, I'd love to hear your input. Is this theory completely crackpot?
That doesn't make sense. It's an alkali metal and not magnetic in the sense you expect it in the first place, and secondly, the medication is made of lithium salts that are not magnetic. And don't forget, we already have other elements in our body (especially iron) that are potentially magnetic. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium)
Do we actually know what the mine is mining (officially)? I sadly can't watch the show and have to rely on recaps like this one.
lithium salts. not literal lithium.
I think you missed the facial expression of the girl, with the black eye in the crab factory, after she sees the spiral, that the older woman invited her over to see, when Danvers asked.
Thank you!! I thought I was the only one who noticed. She seemed like she knew but said “no” because she knows too much about something else.
@@annabethdiana5857Me too, I thought it was somewhat obvious but began to doubt it since I haven't seen it brought up.
Incredible video.Very detailed and insightful. This season is a true return to form for True Dective and I could not enjoy it any more!
If the supernatural isn't involved (which I hope it isn't) then the only logical explanation is that Rose knows more than she says/remembers. How else could she have found the bodies if she wasn't already aware that they were there?
Or Rose had seen the footprints or even the heads of the scientists from afar before, but at first she didn't pay attention to them on a conscious level. But later, on a subconscious level (in the form of "Travis"), - she did.
These videos are excellent. Thank you for breaking everything down. I'm also going back to Season 1 again.
Too much going on to keep track of. Thanks for the recap.
@@kh9242 the show isn't great and no one wants to admit it lol
@@kh9242 agree with you 100% good take!
@andrewl9043 THIS.
As soon as they said Tuttle I literally screamed. I knew those fkers were all over, but where in Ennis are they hiding is the question.
As always another stellar review!
Those Tuttles need 2 pay, never sat right with me them getting away....
I bet they own the mining company
@@wiznz3659Yup, or at least part of it (share holders, members on the board, etc.). Very cool to link things back to S1.
Paradoxical undressing which is caused by hypothermia not paradoxical hypothermia. Basically, you are usually not a good judge of if you have hypothermia because you begin to feel warm.
I want to know why Liz is so racist toward the Inuit when she was clearly married to one, had a son, has a step daughter, and lives and works with many. It seems so counterintuitive and really strange to literally be living in their world and yelling at the elder for drawing on marker tattoos etc.
I think it is more like resentment. I am leaning towards it has something to do with the deaths of her husband & child. Like the Beetles music, it triggers her deeply. She was also sent there against her wishes, more resentment.
Time will tell.
Hank definately being catfished by his "Russian Bride"
Tsalal might be working on cloning, but that seemed less likely to me by the time I got to the end of the episode.
I don't think so. I think Hank might die and his Russian bride might turn from across the border.
I just finished season 1 again. I don't think Rust is dead; I think he's coming back. They end the show declaring him unkillable.
Also, in the final episode the same eye on woody is busted up as on the polar bears. That might be a stretch, or maybe little bear _and_ big bear are coming back.
Thank you so much for doing this! And so soon after the episode. ❤
This is great as I don’t have Max and would love to see the show! I’ve watched your 3 recaps. Egads, I love Jodie Foster!
Looks like a very good show, I recall when it was announced and started filming, forever ago…! I was anxious around when it would actually air. Seems to be living up to the hype and I just read that ratings have risen with each episode.
No theories yet as I’m just learning whassup…!
Does this mean Leah's father and half brother were killed by a drunken driver? Or perhaps Leah's father was stoned or drunk and killed his and Danvers' son in a DUI? Leah also said Danvers may hove gotten stoned, Maybe Danvers killed her husband and son.
Is that why she hates drunks now and is overprotecting Leah because of guilt? Although she seems like a total control freak and a narcissist.
I don't think Tsalal is doing what everyone says they're doing. Here's why: Mining is a little like the core sampling. They're kinda similar. Also, I'm to believe that these half dozen scientist are doing a thing that a high school teacher knows won't work, is that the case? I think they weren't worried about microbes at all.
Cloning is what I thought after ep 1, and the bodies were the dumped clones.
but that seemed less likely after watching ep 2
Yeah, the claim of ancient microbes having the capabilities to heal modern days human illnesses sounds far-fetched. Tbh, when you apply for a fund to conduct a study, it does sound like exactly the shit you would write in. It's a rather generic claim, but everyone knows the probability is low. You always have to include some benefit for humans besides gaining knowledge.
If you could get the govt to pay for prospecting under the guise of scientific research, that'd be sweet. "Oh hey, cobalt! What a pleasant, neat surprise!"
Also, if you stabbed someone with a straight-ish deer antler, what would that look like? I've never had the pleasure. I'm looking for star-shaped things.
Yes! Like these were all super smart guys so they must’ve known the bounds of their research. I also found it suspicious how they did the paradoxical undressing. I know it was a survival thing but they must’ve known removing their clothes was not a good idea. They are scientists so I’m sure they were aware of the dangers of the cold
Navarro was so intense about Annie's murder case, somebody got pissed and wanted her dead. And when a drunken Wheeler rammed into Navarro's vehicle, he killed Liz's son and husband who were in the car at the time. Liz holds Navarro responsible for their deaths.
Im really loving season 4 so far!
How??? It's terrible!!
He doesn't have a brain, @@Snatchystashy
Me too I like very much where this is going. Most people have not been paying attention it seems.
I’d say this is one of the worst series I’ve ever watched.
You tagged on the bones being related to the antlers, but the crown the antlers go in was on the countertop next to the smashed cellphone. You can see it a few times in this video.
The old lady, whos dead spouse guided her to the frozen scientists, probably does NOT have hallucinations and she seems to be able to distinguish mental health and spiritual things very well. If her son was a hallucination then well, these hallucinations are VERY helpful and spot on about finding things that need to be found. What a coincidence huh?
*her husband
The boat that Ani left on for Venezuela was called "Great Escape", One of Steve McQueen best movies.
Season 3 started with "The day Steve McQueen died"
Just watched. Agree with Van Allen radiation belts and mining being related so far.
Noted the spiral was drawn from a different angle in the Golden Eagle trailer, not from directly above as it appears in tattoo form, but more of an isometric view? Perhaps related to how astronauts have to plot their path through the lightest radiation for safe return.
Also noted a background detail on the hockey rink’s walls. A sponsor by the name of Blue King.
Good stuff!
Great breakdown and insight. This season is off to a great start.
Thank you for making these videos. These video's make me understand this show better. You are so smart.
How much time has elapsed between the storyline in season one to this one? Will we find out how everyone got to Alaska?
Probably 10ish years from the modern portion of TD season 1 if I were to guess.
I think this one takes place present day. Season 1 ends in 2012 iirc. Kohle’s dad was already in Alaska, and he’s the only definite crossover character with the possible exception that the only women we’ve seen marked with the spiral previously were sacrifices. Did the dead girl escape from something in Louisiana? Or as the reporter in season 3 was speculating based on info from a website that maybe that case was related to the one from season 1 maybe the cult existed in other places and she escaped on of those?
@@donkeysaurusrex7881thanks that makes sense… I was wondering about the timing too
Has to take place in present day. There's a PS5 in the background in where the scientist stay and Peter was scrolling thru reels or shorts
@@donkeysaurusrex7881 I think you're right, the Tuttle cult is large scale and nation wide...
🌀NOTICED something during the episode but nobody seems to mention yet. If you go to around the 13:30 mark of this video it shows what I noticed. Clark’s notes all start in ordinary block lettering, but slowly throughout and after the circle drawings at the bottom he’s writing entirely in cursive! I thought this detail was pretty ingenious!
The kid's drawing is probably the legend of Sedna, a woman who had her fingers cut off and sank into the ocean.
"Sedna is the goddess of the sea and marine animals in Inuit mythology, also known as the Mother of the Sea or Mistress of the Sea. The story of Sedna, which is a creation myth, describes how she came to rule over Adlivun, the Inuit underworld"
this would line up with the cornea damage, freezing and ruptured eardrums, you could be on to something. Maybe something is found by Clark at the station, which is why he bought the camper, then tried to bring back Annie making her a version of Sedna. I am excited to see where this goes.
In Season 2 in the Safe room above the "Black Rose bar" is a bouquet of yellow roses, and the picture Frank shows to Ani of Jordan has a yellow tint to it.
15:26 Not 'a random dude' that is the scientist Anton Kotov, who is found dead in the Corpsicle. So that footage of him must be a flashback, or a supernatural scene as ghost ... or ...
I am repeatedly reminded of the “Dyatlov Pass Incident” as I watch this. I can’t really pinpoint why, more of a feeling than anything
Big bear and Little bear...Ursa Major and Ursa Minor. Ursa Major and Polaris are on the State flag of Alaska and Polaris, the North Star, is part of Ursa Minor...Little Bear and big bear missing eyes and have star shaped wounds.
I look forward to seeing how they include more spiritual and native cultural elements.
I think they’re doing a lot of misdirection through the indigenous or Inuit population, but maybe just specifically the cleaners - showing them in overlooked jobs, as dv victims, as meek - as if they’re trying to make us think they’re nobodies, background people. The scene where the two worker women are asked about the symbol showed they knew much more as well.
Seeing since we heard mention of the folklore “monster” - could they be involved in the corpsicle since it seemed ritualistic?
Liz obviously avoids anything reminiscent of her husband and son, and that’s part of it, but her absolute disdain for the culture seems like a storytelling choice. I think it foreshadows that she will need to get close and comfortable with the culture/people to get the answers.
Also take a look at Sedna, Goddess of the Sea, in Inuit culture. The sea - toxic water? She could control the animals; so as to not allow hunters to eat. The caribou in the beginning scenes with the hunter…
Polar bears in Inuit culture were said to be intelligent and most like a man - in fact some beliefs were that they were men that would shed their polar bear skin when they got home.
These may be what the story has for spiritual answers, or believers’ experience, when they juxtapose them with real-life explanations. Season one did this with Hestia, ruler of the cosmos, virginity and sacrifice. The bad guy who [initially] takes the fall, Errol, is also an overlooked simpleton.
Can someone explain the scene where Navarro runs over some snow in her car and then she reaches somewhere in the car and pulls out a crucifix? I don't understand that scene. Where did the crucifix come from?
the cross pendant was from her mom. The scene was totally random so it could either be an actual pendant or she was hallucinating.
@@crozraven Right I got that part but what did driving over the snow on the road and why was she fishing in the car with her hand?
@@Overonator Like I said, x random scene. She was weirdly trying to reach her phone again but instead weirdly grab & found her mom's crucifix. Why I said weird? It has been many years of her using the car, but somehow surprised & only found it at that moment?? Not only that, I am pretty sure a person's crucifix meant a lot to the owner, so even family member wouldn't just lost it or placed it willy nilly.
As for what may represent thematically. She was clearly still haunted by her mom's passing & it could also be her outright rejection to spirituality/christianity.
@@crozraven I have an idea: as she drove over the snow in the road the car got jostled and she dropped her phone and started feeling around for it and found the crucifix pendent that made her flashback to her mentally ill mom having an acute mental health episode.
Something in the water, the final scene in the second episode ends with Florence + Machine - Seven Devils, lyrics starts with "Holly water cannot help you now".
Loved this, but a tiny flub at 15:40. You mention Navarro telling Jules she wouldn't send her "Back to the Lighthouse" but Jules has never been to the Lighthouse. She was hospitalized in their previous town before moving back to Alaska. Navarro even tries to explain the Lighthouse isn't like the other hospitals.
This season turns to be pretty much a sequal to s1. TD always works with metaphors, and given that the yellow sign keeps turning up everywhere it seems all of Ennis might be Carcosa, with the poisoned water being the Yellow Kings spell.
The spiral is not the yellow sign.
@@xczechr but its the sign of the cult of the yellow king right?
well done breakdown -- i'll be watching ur channel after every episode!
I forgot that Lund was a structural biologist. He would have had to have access to liquid nitrogen to freeze his crystals before sending them off to a synchrotron for X-ray diffraction. The closest one is the Canadian Light Source in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan. It’s interesting because the resulting crystal would be derived from whatever the heck they pulled from the permafrost.
It’s probably a detail they’ll never follow up on but I’d be curious what the CLS sent back to him. The world may never know.
Anyone notice the drawing of the "Earth's layers" looks A LOT like the spiral drawing? They're both strangely triangular. No fanbase at this is a coincidence.
i noticed that too and was looking for someone else to mention it. Was thinking maybe the spiral symbol could represent a 'map' of sorts, signifying that whatever is at the center of the cult, is towards the center of the Earth. Could possibly be where a portal or vortex to Carcosa is located, similar to the one Rust saw at the end of S1. It also could explain why the Tuttle family expanded their corporation into mining
What about the song that is playing in the truck when he's dropping supplies off in the beginning of episode one? The lyrics are "I've been watching you for a long long time"? I'm sure this song wasn't picked randomly.
I haven’t read comments, but anyone notice it’s an exact excerpt from The Dark Tower? “The fabric of things is thin and the world is old” is almost word for word. They called spots like that a Thinny. And guess who was The Man in Black, aka Red King? Matthew M. And they also had similar facilities at the Beam stations in Dark Tower. Then there’s “The gunslinger fled across the desert, and the man in black followed.” It’s literally called The Wasteland. If that’s not an Ennis type place, nothing is. In season 1, the Iron Crusader dude literally said “I need a gunslinger.” Again, Roland was literally the last Gunslinger.
love your analysis❤
You caught a lot of stuff! I need to pay more attention, very helpful video
Navarro runs over something red/bloody as she swerves in the cross necklace scene...
Kit was married to the geology teacher. Her sons are Inuit
In S 2 there is a scene where they find the land being sold had contaminated ground and a mining company was accused of polluting the land
Phragmidium spp. is an Orange fungi that only afflicts the leaves of our favorite valentines day flower, and is known as
Rose Rust
The opening scene In Season 2 Ep 3 when Ray is sitting in the bar with his father.
There is an Elvis ( The King) impersonator and he is lip syncing to Conway Twitty's Cover, of Bette Midler's song
"The Rose"
On a side note, Matthew McConaughey is an Elvis fan and is the voice for Agent Elvis.
Yes please I need to understand a bit more - like when the man starts shaking and making that sound like he is possessed? And it had only just started to be dark in the beginning (first episode) so they wouldn't have started to lose their minds so quickly would they? And the reindeer from the first episode etc. It's a great mystery, I am just dying to know where they are going. I want to understand more of what is going on in the trailer at the end of the second episode? It def gave me Silence of the Lamb vibes when Foster's character goes into that storage place with her flashlight and finds the head in the jar, seeing her go into the trailer with her flashlight def felt like an ode to that which I thought was very cool.
Excellent breakdown. Thanks!
I think thw Tuttle family found something on Alaska that could be related to their cult, consodering the symbol and how Rose said the symbol is older than the ice, that is very At fhe Mountain of Madness/The Thing.
cada capitulo mas interesante que el anterior! Muy intrigado para ver como sigue y como sacan esas conexiones con la primer temporada
Idk why so many people hating on this season in other reviews I’m so so so intrigued by this season
Someone else is applying the paint to Leah's mouth. If you look at the angle of the hand you can see the thumb tucked under. And the fingers look older. Maybe Danvers applies it.
Was this season inspired by the Dyatlov Pass Incedent?
Per your 3 recaps (I’ve not seen the show), just let me say I’m glad Jodie is ‘gettin’ some’ haha her characters almost never do!
Yay!
the comedy in this episode was so good :)
I was laughing so loud when the guys limb broke off and he was still alive.
that and the Captain's FUCK speech when Danvers came to the house had me dying@@iwilfix9407
If what they did was paradoxical undressing, they wouldn't have folded their clothes. They would have ripped them off frantically. They wouldn't even be capable of neatly folding them in a row like that.
A similar counterpoint is brought up in the episode.
When hunters disappear , their clothing is found neatly folded ,
Yay u just mentioned the Tuttle company, the other reviews I saw didn’t mention that.
Also remember...These stories are never really about who did what. They are always about the personal struggle of the main characters .