As a former Christian who knew the deep theological aspects of the Bible and now a happy, peaceful atheist who still is spiritual, this show meant a lot to me. The theology in this show is used to point to universal concepts while also seeing the hypocrisy of some religious people. I dont think the show attacks Chrisitianity. I believe it attacks the evils of man. It shows that life is a hellscape for most and that if your life has even just a few decent things in it, it's worthy being grateful for.
Have you ever read the book of Ecclesiastes? It is a somewhat misinterpreted book from King Solomon's final years that combs through what you've stated above. The futility of life, good, evil and the pride of man's intellect in thinking he can attain the infinite without God. You might get a lot out of it. Consider this my recommend!
I am in the same boat. I wouldn't call myself an atheist since I do believe in God and like to believe in Jesus as well but I live my life and try to be happy and achieve peace while learning as much as I can and putting out positive energy as much as possible.
Maybe but it's lovecraftian to the core they never caught the real folks responsible and they never will they are fighting an un winnable battle against evil
I'm not hating, also very religious. but i couldn't get past the first 4 episodes. also keep in mind this was after a rewatch just recently. when the show first came out i loved it, was a big fan. but watched it recently and was like, dude how shallow and insecure are these people?! i was 27 back then. now 34.
One of the things I loved about this season was its references to rather obscure (anymore, anyhow) writers, such as Ambrose Bierce (Carcosa, Hastur), RW Chambers (the King in Yellow, 'No mask?!'), and HP Lovecraft. Throw in Christianity, Nietzsche, the 'moral absolutes' of both Marty and Rust, an amazingly eerie - yet perfectly 'normal' setting - and this is one of the most deeply layered shows I've watched. The writing and acting are outstanding, and the time-jump device actually worked, instead of being distracting. Great show. :)
@@CinemacrestStudios Your content is fascinating. Exactly what I've been looking for after recently watching S1. What Cohle said about "nothing being solved", things happening over and over is the essence of the endless battle of good vs evil. There will always be creatures like Childress. Take one down, but their master will always recruit another.
@@lobomedina6312 I appreciate what you have said. I arrived at this series through much prayer and studying, as well as years of personal suffering and wandering. "But as for me, I will never boast about anything except the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ." -Galatians 6:14
@@CinemacrestStudios As your suffering brought you to this work, what a great way of channeling it, wearing the Armor of God. 85,000 (that we know of) undocumented children missing in the US alone. Victims of the trafficking syndicates. The battle never ends.
After my second watch I realised that this show is the best on screen Lovecraft "Adaption" we got so far. Without labeling it that way. Which is really clever, because the horror really crawls deep into your skin and leaves room for imagination. The intelligent writing works on many levels and the atmosphere just is amazing. Work of art.
I noticed that during their fight in 2002 Woody is thrown at Matthews car and destroys the brake light. When Matt pulls over Woody we see the brake light is still broken. This shows that Rust refuses to stop, and that he hasn’t moved on even 10 years later 'Time is a flat circle.' “Everything we've ever done or will do, we're gonna do over and over and over again.” It’s just a reminder of a broken man doing what he’s always done because he can’t stop.
The part where Rust is talking about a world where "nothing is solved" and then when Marty is talking asking "Do you know the good years when you're in them...?" are the deepest parts that always get to me. Season 2 had some really deep stuff as well especially Frank Semyon (Vince Vaughn) and then season 3 also was very deep.
If Rust is the prime mover then Marty is the personification of the normative against which Rust must move. Without the sane, the insane cannot be framed, light and dark, life and death.
Also, Rust and Marty's interviews are in a mirror structure. Rust gives his philosophy, Marty gives his. They are usually a verbose and then cliched version of the same rough points.
I honestly think subverting lovecraft/cosmicism in this manner is one of the greatest achievements in contemporary fiction. It turns this pointless meandering about subverting that which is just, true and beautiful on its head and utilizes the ultimate inversion of what's true just and beautiful to do so.
There has never been a show or movie that has hit me so hard to my core as a human/man/Muslim then true detective… soon as episode 8 finished… it was only a couple of hours before I had to rewatch the entire thing. For so many reasons. For me the one line that you really and truly hear rusts “frustration” with everyone and everything is when he quits and walks out and says under his breath “fuck this world man” that one line you truly get connected with rust… and how his intentions to solving the case is way above and beyond everyone else including Marty . Number one show of all time for me. No question
brilliant. aptly puts into words how i feel about this show, the first season at least. it's peaking at so many things, it's peak crime television, it's peak character drama, it's peak southern gothic and it's peak lovecraftian fiction. also love the low pitched and toned "Among the Sef" at the end of the video, absolutely gorgeous
This was an awesome video series and I enjoyed it! I also think True Detective season one has a lot of Buddhist symbolism even though Buddhism is never blatantly mentioned. Rust's former character as a pessimist reminds me of Buddhists who think final nirvana is death and lights out no consciousness. But his reform to an optimist at the end reminds me of Buddhists who believe final nirvana is helping other sentient beings and forms of consciousness achieve joy and peace. Time being a flat circle is also very reminiscent of Buddhist samsara.
This is an excellent video. Love the use of overt horror sound design and editing tropes to really hammer home just how exestentially horrifying these ideas truly are. This whole piece is a mood. Just like the first season of TRUE DETECTIVE was.
True Detective's mention of the trap of reliving one's life on repeat reminds me of Nietzsche's idea of eternal return ,this can be used to motivate positive behaviour, not necessarily despair.
Whoa, this is fascinating AF. The thing is there have always been monsters in meat suits like Childress. (His surname is no accident.) Maybe that's one truth Lovecraft and then Nic Pizzolato, McConaughey, and Harrelsen were hoping we'd think about. The "Childresses" of the world are coming out of the shadows. We need more Rust Cohles and Martin Harts.
Rust is what the Christ-like man looks like in the shadows of the death of the possibility of the belief in the victory of the Christian story over its adversary. He is, in a strange, paradoxical way, the Light of Christ where the Light of Christ has died. This is an incredible analysis, I learned a lot from it - absolutely brilliant stuff! I'll be spending a lot of time on this video in order to take it all in. I honestly wasn't expecting this when you announced your intention to do it - kinda blown away tbh
as a lawyer, i feel the show on another level. nothing does get solved and sometimes the system is fucked up and you cannot do anything about it cause if you force it to change then YOU are tagged as villain, but those people who hide in plain sight do more evil than you ever did and they get away with it. Humans are a cancer.
That’s jaded as hell! We have a choice. We have instincts that serve that purpose. As a lawyer, I’m sure you recognize the difference between the “law “ and the justice that should come with breaking that law. Society at large certainly knows the difference and will set that back to balance.
I think your right. Humans are a cancer. See how when you challenged the norm the first response you got was to be accused a villan for asserting that humans are a cancer. What you said played out true right here.
I’m a little late to this video, but thank you for posting! Was shocked to see people missing the Lovecraft elements, was thinking about making a video about it until i saw yours.
@@CinemacrestStudios the gray, the way I figured it to be that is balance was achieved in the universe. I was thinking about the video and how the old ones created chaos. Finally got bored with us and pieced together "God" to look upon this barely sentient ant hill.
I believe that he'll die trying to fuck them up. They'll recover, they'll remember, but it's knowing that might piss them off the most... that it happened.
I found this out of remembering true detective having lovecratifian elements and its almost been a year since this has been released. Time is really a flat circle.
I love this show and am excited to discover this channel, this was an excellent commentary. Rust acts the way I wish more Christians would act. True detective reminds me of the parable of the two sons. The Parable of the Two Sons 28 “What do you think? There was a man who had two sons. He went to the first and said, ‘Son, go and work today in the vineyard.’ 29 “‘I will not,’ he answered, but later he changed his mind and went. 30 “Then the father went to the other son and said the same thing. He answered, ‘I will, sir,’ but he did not go. 31 “Which of the two did what his father wanted?” “The first,” they answered. Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you. 32 For John came to you to show you the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes did. And even after you saw this, you did not repent and believe him. Marty claimed to be a Christian but was lukewarm, and didn't bear any fruit. Rust on the other hand didn't claim to be Christian but meditated on the Garden (1st sorrowful mystery of the Rosary for Catholics). He also picked up his cross and carried it (4th sorrowful mystery of the Rosary). Yes, Rust is putting a lot of work in at the vineyard. Rust has much more in common with the Saints of the Church than almost all of the Bishops and Priests in America.
Beautifully stated. I realize Cohle is a fictional character and a figment of Pizzolatto's imagination, but I have also seen a few people like him. Granted, they're few, but they exist. He's like an amalgam of various historical men who lived honorably and kept themselves unstained by the world: "Pure and undefiled religion before our God and Father is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself unstained by the world" - James 1:27
@@CinemacrestStudiosit's not so much unstained by the world as it is that you've been so stained by it that you realize all it's promises are horseshit, and move beyond them. I was already in a deeply pessimistic mindset when I watched the first season, and related alot to Rust because of that. I still hold to alot of the lessons I learned during that time, but now it's balanced out with my spiritual practices, and efforts to not only confront the evil, and suffering that permeates reality, but to actively fight it (which is a lesson I can largely credit season one of true detective for teaching me).
Dude, as a H P Lovecraft fan, I appreciate your contribution! True Detective Season One might be my all time favorite live action series with Lovecraftian themes...It is so perfect, but I really wished to see some otherworldly beings at the end and hence, some madness:D
Why would you need otherwordly beings to bring on the madness when, really, when we want madness, all we have to do is look around us. Monsters everywhere.
@@akwilson1676I thought the first half of Lovecraft Country was pretty good, lost its touch towards the end though. And quite a bit more on the nose than True Detective
A Lovecraftian universe is a universe entirely devoid of God. All the horror, all the apathy, all the frigid silence. The fact that we are still here, on our “placid island of ignorance”, is proof enough to me that God is real and cares about us.
True Detective was the final kick that threw into agnosticism. The line where Cohle says that if the only thing that's keeping you from committing harm against others is a contract with a devine being that stipulates that if you behave you will go to heaven, you're not a good person, you just dont want to get punished. Something inside me clicked. Followed by a few months of a crisis of meaning until I discovered Albert Camus.
Great video and editing. (What was that gregorian hymn song?) True Detective season 1 is one of the best series ever created. Entertaining but deep, great acting. Your vid deserves more views.
Have you read the secondary material: the Yellow King, Carcosa, weird-occult-fiction stuff? It sounds really unsettling. That kind of dark stuff has its own kind of allure though, the same way people are interested in the paranormal etc., one should be carful with it all the same
I skimmed through some of it while preparing this video. Haita The Shepherd was unique. The King In Yellow is also compelling, but might have some real evil attached to it. Like you said, it is engrossing and cool, but I also got this filthy, evil feeling while researching it. I recommend approaching the material with caution.
I had a really intense mushroom experience that as a biproduct , I understood the "flat circle" and ,what i thought was unrelated , why time travel won't work as we would like it to. When it hit me , really getting it, I laughed at first, then became somber. If what was revealed to me is true, could be very scary to some. Might be why most don't seek real answers until close to their end of the part they play. Could spoil things if you still want to go on with a mundane existence.
@@AlfredDaButtlerr I don't know if this simple answer really can convey my experience, it sounds embarrassingly silly. Imagine all existence as a limitless sized blu-ray. It's been pressed , fixed in a way. You can't re-write it. As it plays , an observer could see an illusion of time passing. The reality is it all has already happened. Pressed. Released. Rewound. Over and over infinite. Time travel could be us just jumping from one scene to another. Observing but not changing. Any change I guess would be an alternate reality/different disk.
@dbel1980 thankfully we broke that confinement. So many intricacies. Beautiful moments of the human toiling to understand. If you push back on this work of art, struggle, blood letting, you are not of my tribe. We seek the stars.
I'm not entirely sure I agree with your favoring Rust as the Lovecraftian detective. From memory, Rust is very reserved and all the incredulity comes from Marty. Those expressions of awe and disbelief do surface in Lovecraft's work. I think both characters express elements found in the stories. They are more like a yin yang split of the Lovecraftian detective. That's how I see it, anyway.
How amazing the first season was how fucking deep and might be the single best season of a series ever made how the fuck did the next 2 seasons turn to trash
Simple. The s1 was in the making for about 10 yrs (planned,written/rewritten),but after coming out the producers were so impressed that they paid in advance and ordered 2 more seasons. These 2 seasons were written,scripted and produced in few months!
You don’t need religion to know evil. You don’t need religion to be moral. You don’t need religion to disdain wickedness or cruelty. Rust even says as much. If you’re only a good person because you’re afraid god will punish you if you’re bad, you’re not a good person. You can be a bad man and a good person.
I understand what you're saying, but I don't agree. I do fear that God will punish me if I'm bad, because His word says so and because He can punish you in this life as well as in the one to come. But the Bible doesn't assert that we should be good only to avoid punishment. It states that the righteous person will be God's friend (James 2:23) and will enter into a marriage with God wherein they will come to participate in and desire God's law. At that point it is not a forced slave/slave master relationship, but a joining of our spirit to God's (John 15:12-15).
I remember being so obsessed with “who is the yellow king?” So many good theories. But then it turned out it was just a crazy dude with a stick figure idol.
Childdress wasn't the yellow king, I don't think the yellow king was even a person but if it was it was someone much higher up the food chain, maybe Tuttle's brother the governor or someone even higher.
The darkness is winning though. Most of the stars that will ever exist have already been born. And they will all burn out sooner or later and the universe will be dark. Love the season, but the final scene was dumb, especially compared to everything before. Also, when was it ever just a void? When the universe came into being it was filled to the brim with energy and matter. Because of expansion and entropy, in the end, everything will be the void.
This show was a slow burner but the payoff was worth it. Occultism, religion, pure depraved human behavior and some emotionally scared, hard nosed detectives with their own issues trying to fight a disgusting amount of behavior and crimes in small insular towns. Just a great show
Undoubtedly one of the best series ever. Ever. It's a pity that the show ended with Cohle stating that the light is winning. It feels like a cop-out, an attempt to inject hope into a story that closely resembles the dark reality of life. An "all's well that ends well" attempt. I don't think a man like Rust, resembling a modern day Schopenhauer, would stray from his nihilism into this "hopeful" statement. Sometimes there is no hope.
Was really excited to discover a bideo essay on the Lovecraftian themes in True Detective. Then you started talking about evil forces and certain fictional books being inherently evil or dangerous. Then i clicked on your channel and understood. I prefer the analysis of fiction to be undertaken from a secular point of view to avoid superstitious bias, like suggesting that there is some sort of metaphysical evil lying at the hearts of certain pieces of literary fiction. And i see you've even gone to the effort of doubling down on these ideas in the comments section. I will be sure to avoid your channel in the future. Cool editing style tho.
As a former Christian who knew the deep theological aspects of the Bible and now a happy, peaceful atheist who still is spiritual, this show meant a lot to me. The theology in this show is used to point to universal concepts while also seeing the hypocrisy of some religious people. I dont think the show attacks Chrisitianity. I believe it attacks the evils of man. It shows that life is a hellscape for most and that if your life has even just a few decent things in it, it's worthy being grateful for.
Have you ever read the book of Ecclesiastes? It is a somewhat misinterpreted book from King Solomon's final years that combs through what you've stated above. The futility of life, good, evil and the pride of man's intellect in thinking he can attain the infinite without God. You might get a lot out of it. Consider this my recommend!
I am in the same boat. I wouldn't call myself an atheist since I do believe in God and like to believe in Jesus as well but I live my life and try to be happy and achieve peace while learning as much as I can and putting out positive energy as much as possible.
This is beautifully put
Maybe but it's lovecraftian to the core they never caught the real folks responsible and they never will they are fighting an un winnable battle against evil
I'm not hating, also very religious. but i couldn't get past the first 4 episodes.
also keep in mind this was after a rewatch just recently.
when the show first came out i loved it, was a big fan.
but watched it recently and was like, dude how shallow and insecure are these people?!
i was 27 back then. now 34.
The first season of this show has burrowed inside my brain snd I can't shake it.
One of the things I loved about this season was its references to rather obscure (anymore, anyhow) writers, such as Ambrose Bierce (Carcosa, Hastur), RW Chambers (the King in Yellow, 'No mask?!'), and HP Lovecraft. Throw in Christianity, Nietzsche, the 'moral absolutes' of both Marty and Rust, an amazingly eerie - yet perfectly 'normal' setting - and this is one of the most deeply layered shows I've watched. The writing and acting are outstanding, and the time-jump device actually worked, instead of being distracting. Great show. :)
Absolutely! Thanks for the insightful comment.
Buddhism?
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Your content is fascinating. Exactly what I've been looking for after recently watching S1.
What Cohle said about "nothing being solved", things happening over and over is the essence of the endless battle of good vs evil. There will always be creatures like Childress. Take one down, but their master will always recruit another.
@@lobomedina6312 I appreciate what you have said. I arrived at this series through much prayer and studying, as well as years of personal suffering and wandering.
"But as for me, I will never boast about anything except the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ." -Galatians 6:14
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As your suffering brought you to this work, what a great way of channeling it, wearing the Armor of God.
85,000 (that we know of) undocumented children missing in the US alone. Victims of the trafficking syndicates.
The battle never ends.
After my second watch I realised that this show is the best on screen Lovecraft "Adaption" we got so far. Without labeling it that way. Which is really clever, because the horror really crawls deep into your skin and leaves room for imagination. The intelligent writing works on many levels and the atmosphere just is amazing.
Work of art.
I noticed that during their fight in 2002 Woody is thrown at Matthews car and destroys the brake light. When Matt pulls over Woody we see the brake light is still broken. This shows that Rust refuses to stop, and that he hasn’t moved on even 10 years later 'Time is a flat circle.' “Everything we've ever done or will do, we're gonna do over and over and over again.” It’s just a reminder of a broken man doing what he’s always done because he can’t stop.
Very glad you take into account the fundamental goodness of the protagonists, or rather the desire to do good.
The part where Rust is talking about a world where "nothing is solved" and then when Marty is talking asking "Do you know the good years when you're in them...?" are the deepest parts that always get to me. Season 2 had some really deep stuff as well especially Frank Semyon (Vince Vaughn) and then season 3 also was very deep.
Marty's line about the good years still haunts me.
Season 2 is very underrated. But I've never seen Seasons 3 and 4
@@chrisjenkins7591yeah, every time i think, surely this year will be better, I'm proven wrong.
Season 1 is the greatest piece of television in the last 20 years. Matthews best work imo
If Rust is the prime mover then Marty is the personification of the normative against which Rust must move. Without the sane, the insane cannot be framed, light and dark, life and death.
Also, Rust and Marty's interviews are in a mirror structure. Rust gives his philosophy, Marty gives his. They are usually a verbose and then cliched version of the same rough points.
I honestly think subverting lovecraft/cosmicism in this manner is one of the greatest achievements in contemporary fiction.
It turns this pointless meandering about subverting that which is just, true and beautiful on its head and utilizes the ultimate inversion of what's true just and beautiful to do so.
When you "just", do you mean "good"? :)
There has never been a show or movie that has hit me so hard to my core as a human/man/Muslim then true detective… soon as episode 8 finished… it was only a couple of hours before I had to rewatch the entire thing. For so many reasons.
For me the one line that you really and truly hear rusts “frustration” with everyone and everything is when he quits and walks out and says under his breath “fuck this world man” that one line you truly get connected with rust… and how his intentions to solving the case is way above and beyond everyone else including Marty .
Number one show of all time for me. No question
What a cool idea to blend Lovecraft to True Detective
Excellent use of Collin Stetson at the end there my dude. His music is so slept on
Do you know which Stetson song it is?
@@el9634 “among the sef “
brilliant. aptly puts into words how i feel about this show, the first season at least. it's peaking at so many things, it's peak crime television, it's peak character drama, it's peak southern gothic and it's peak lovecraftian fiction. also love the low pitched and toned "Among the Sef" at the end of the video, absolutely gorgeous
This was an awesome video series and I enjoyed it! I also think True Detective season one has a lot of Buddhist symbolism even though Buddhism is never blatantly mentioned. Rust's former character as a pessimist reminds me of Buddhists who think final nirvana is death and lights out no consciousness. But his reform to an optimist at the end reminds me of Buddhists who believe final nirvana is helping other sentient beings and forms of consciousness achieve joy and peace. Time being a flat circle is also very reminiscent of Buddhist samsara.
This is an excellent video. Love the use of overt horror sound design and editing tropes to really hammer home just how exestentially horrifying these ideas truly are. This whole piece is a mood. Just like the first season of TRUE DETECTIVE was.
True Detective's mention of the trap of reliving one's life on repeat reminds me of Nietzsche's idea of eternal return ,this can be used to motivate positive behaviour, not necessarily despair.
Wow!!! What a great analysis and overview, Awesome content
Whoa, this is fascinating AF.
The thing is there have always been monsters in meat suits like Childress. (His surname is no accident.) Maybe that's one truth Lovecraft and then Nic Pizzolato, McConaughey, and Harrelsen were hoping we'd think about.
The "Childresses" of the world are coming out of the shadows. We need more Rust Cohles and Martin Harts.
Masterful!
Well done.
For anyone wondering about the song at the end its a pitched down version of Colin Stetson's Among the Sef
I think the point of the theology in true detective is that the real world is so much worse than what the imagination can create.
Rust is what the Christ-like man looks like in the shadows of the death of the possibility of the belief in the victory of the Christian story over its adversary. He is, in a strange, paradoxical way, the Light of Christ where the Light of Christ has died. This is an incredible analysis, I learned a lot from it - absolutely brilliant stuff! I'll be spending a lot of time on this video in order to take it all in. I honestly wasn't expecting this when you announced your intention to do it - kinda blown away tbh
In the ending scene, lying in bed ,bruised close to death emaciated, stigmata-tised by wounding, he becomes Christ and is resurrected.
@@goodnightvienna8511 He finds the Light of Christ. He is not, *himself*, Christ.
as a lawyer, i feel the show on another level. nothing does get solved and sometimes the system is fucked up and you cannot do anything about it cause if you force it to change then YOU are tagged as villain, but those people who hide in plain sight do more evil than you ever did and they get away with it. Humans are a cancer.
That’s jaded as hell! We have a choice. We have instincts that serve that purpose. As a lawyer, I’m sure you recognize the difference between the “law “ and the justice that should come with breaking that law. Society at large certainly knows the difference and will set that back to balance.
I think your right. Humans are a cancer. See how when you challenged the norm the first response you got was to be accused a villan for asserting that humans are a cancer. What you said played out true right here.
People call me a pessimist. I think I'm a realist and it can be a good thing.
Oh great. A lawyer with the mindset of an edgy teenager. Get over yourself
Well done!
Kyrie elison is a beautiful song, nice to see it incorporated into a video
I’m a little late to this video, but thank you for posting! Was shocked to see people missing the Lovecraft elements, was thinking about making a video about it until i saw yours.
Such an underrated channel!! Keep up the good work!!
Very interesting observations; the sacred and the propane. 🤔
Hank Hill agrees.
@@dylanthompson8511 As does Carmine Lupertazzi Jr. He too was known for acute observations.
No matter how fast light is, dark was there first. Knowing this helps me process when ever my scales are out of balance.
What do you think was there before the darkness?
@@CinemacrestStudios the gray, the way I figured it to be that is balance was achieved in the universe.
I was thinking about the video and how the old ones created chaos. Finally got bored with us and pieced together "God" to look upon this barely sentient ant hill.
Great Video!
Bring Rusty back for season 4, all out war against the outer gods.
I believe that he'll die trying to fuck them up. They'll recover, they'll remember, but it's knowing that might piss them off the most... that it happened.
I found this out of remembering true detective having lovecratifian elements and its almost been a year since this has been released. Time is really a flat circle.
I love this show and am excited to discover this channel, this was an excellent commentary.
Rust acts the way I wish more Christians would act. True detective reminds me of the parable of the two sons.
The Parable of the Two Sons
28 “What do you think? There was a man who had two sons. He went to the first and said, ‘Son, go and work today in the vineyard.’
29 “‘I will not,’ he answered, but later he changed his mind and went.
30 “Then the father went to the other son and said the same thing. He answered, ‘I will, sir,’ but he did not go.
31 “Which of the two did what his father wanted?”
“The first,” they answered.
Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you. 32 For John came to you to show you the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes did. And even after you saw this, you did not repent and believe him.
Marty claimed to be a Christian but was lukewarm, and didn't bear any fruit. Rust on the other hand didn't claim to be Christian but meditated on the Garden (1st sorrowful mystery of the Rosary for Catholics). He also picked up his cross and carried it (4th sorrowful mystery of the Rosary). Yes, Rust is putting a lot of work in at the vineyard. Rust has much more in common with the Saints of the Church than almost all of the Bishops and Priests in America.
Beautifully stated. I realize Cohle is a fictional character and a figment of Pizzolatto's imagination, but I have also seen a few people like him. Granted, they're few, but they exist. He's like an amalgam of various historical men who lived honorably and kept themselves unstained by the world:
"Pure and undefiled religion before our God and Father is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself unstained by the world" - James 1:27
@@CinemacrestStudiosit's not so much unstained by the world as it is that you've been so stained by it that you realize all it's promises are horseshit, and move beyond them. I was already in a deeply pessimistic mindset when I watched the first season, and related alot to Rust because of that. I still hold to alot of the lessons I learned during that time, but now it's balanced out with my spiritual practices, and efforts to not only confront the evil, and suffering that permeates reality, but to actively fight it (which is a lesson I can largely credit season one of true detective for teaching me).
Dude, as a H P Lovecraft fan, I appreciate your contribution! True Detective Season One might be my all time favorite live action series with Lovecraftian themes...It is so perfect, but I really wished to see some otherworldly beings at the end and hence, some madness:D
Are there any other good ones? This is like the only example I can think of.
Why would you need otherwordly beings to bring on the madness when, really, when we want madness, all we have to do is look around us. Monsters everywhere.
@@akwilson1676I thought the first half of Lovecraft Country was pretty good, lost its touch towards the end though.
And quite a bit more on the nose than True Detective
@@akwilson1676 Color Out of Space is another great piece of Lovecraftian storytelling.
Did you forget the black hole eating time when rust met childress in the dungeon at the final bout
appreciate the colin stetson music
That editing is unbelievable. Fucking phenomenal
A Lovecraftian universe is a universe entirely devoid of God. All the horror, all the apathy, all the frigid silence. The fact that we are still here, on our “placid island of ignorance”, is proof enough to me that God is real and cares about us.
Exsctly its been a lomg time since we are here, it be an everlasting nightmare to live in that kind of world
Top!
People keep saying it's based on Lovecraft, but it's Chambers' work that the story is using.
Tnx
If you watched this vid you NEED to look up on here the audiobook The King in Yellow.
True Detective was the final kick that threw into agnosticism. The line where Cohle says that if the only thing that's keeping you from committing harm against others is a contract with a devine being that stipulates that if you behave you will go to heaven, you're not a good person, you just dont want to get punished.
Something inside me clicked. Followed by a few months of a crisis of meaning until I discovered Albert Camus.
which music track is the end of the video?
Great video and editing. (What was that gregorian hymn song?)
True Detective season 1 is one of the best series ever created. Entertaining but deep, great acting. Your vid deserves more views.
Have you read the secondary material: the Yellow King, Carcosa, weird-occult-fiction stuff? It sounds really unsettling. That kind of dark stuff has its own kind of allure though, the same way people are interested in the paranormal etc., one should be carful with it all the same
I skimmed through some of it while preparing this video. Haita The Shepherd was unique. The King In Yellow is also compelling, but might have some real evil attached to it. Like you said, it is engrossing and cool, but I also got this filthy, evil feeling while researching it. I recommend approaching the material with caution.
Words on a page can't hurt you.
I had a really intense mushroom experience that as a biproduct , I understood the "flat circle" and ,what i thought was unrelated , why time travel won't work as we would like it to.
When it hit me , really getting it, I laughed at first, then became somber. If what was revealed to me is true, could be very scary to some. Might be why most don't seek real answers until close to their end of the part they play. Could spoil things if you still want to go on with a mundane existence.
Could you give a summary of your revelation, I’m interested. I’ve also had a bit of struggle understanding the concept as a whole.
@@AlfredDaButtlerr I don't know if this simple answer really can convey my experience, it sounds embarrassingly silly.
Imagine all existence as a limitless sized blu-ray. It's been pressed , fixed in a way. You can't re-write it. As it plays , an observer could see an illusion of time passing. The reality is it all has already happened. Pressed. Released. Rewound. Over and over infinite.
Time travel could be us just jumping from one scene to another. Observing but not changing.
Any change I guess would be an alternate reality/different disk.
We were born on a placid island of ignorance, and were not meant to venture far
@dbel1980 thankfully we broke that confinement. So many intricacies. Beautiful moments of the human toiling to understand.
If you push back on this work of art, struggle, blood letting, you are not of my tribe.
We seek the stars.
Think both characters are more like modern day Holmes & Watson investigating a lovecraftion story
Does anyone know the song used at the very end?
Colin Stetson- Among The Sef
@@CinemacrestStudios don't trust you buddy
Sounds very existential.
I'm not entirely sure I agree with your favoring Rust as the Lovecraftian detective. From memory, Rust is very reserved and all the incredulity comes from Marty. Those expressions of awe and disbelief do surface in Lovecraft's work. I think both characters express elements found in the stories. They are more like a yin yang split of the Lovecraftian detective. That's how I see it, anyway.
“Earnest urge to merge”
The king in yellow is so different than lovecrafts work
How amazing the first season was how fucking deep and might be the single best season of a series ever made how the fuck did the next 2 seasons turn to trash
Simple. The s1 was in the making for about 10 yrs (planned,written/rewritten),but after coming out the producers were so impressed that they paid in advance and ordered 2 more seasons. These 2 seasons were written,scripted and produced in few months!
Season 3 was good
They are not bad, just different, and definitely falls in comparison to Season 1 but they are great if you look at them individually
You don’t need religion to know evil. You don’t need religion to be moral. You don’t need religion to disdain wickedness or cruelty.
Rust even says as much. If you’re only a good person because you’re afraid god will punish you if you’re bad, you’re not a good person. You can be a bad man and a good person.
I understand what you're saying, but I don't agree. I do fear that God will punish me if I'm bad, because His word says so and because He can punish you in this life as well as in the one to come. But the Bible doesn't assert that we should be good only to avoid punishment. It states that the righteous person will be God's friend (James 2:23) and will enter into a marriage with God wherein they will come to participate in and desire God's law. At that point it is not a forced slave/slave master relationship, but a joining of our spirit to God's (John 15:12-15).
Your entire morality is based on the foundations laid down by judeo christianity
The King In Yellow is Realllllllllllll
I will say, that lovecraft did not write “The King in Yellow’.
I remember being so obsessed with “who is the yellow king?” So many good theories. But then it turned out it was just a crazy dude with a stick figure idol.
Childdress wasn't the yellow king, I don't think the yellow king was even a person but if it was it was someone much higher up the food chain, maybe Tuttle's brother the governor or someone even higher.
The darkness is winning though. Most of the stars that will ever exist have already been born. And they will all burn out sooner or later and the universe will be dark. Love the season, but the final scene was dumb, especially compared to everything before.
Also, when was it ever just a void? When the universe came into being it was filled to the brim with energy and matter. Because of expansion and entropy, in the end, everything will be the void.
noone warned you not to rouse Azathoth... DO NOT WAKE AZATHOTH. :)
This show was a slow burner but the payoff was worth it. Occultism, religion, pure depraved human behavior and some emotionally scared, hard nosed detectives with their own issues trying to fight a disgusting amount of behavior and crimes in small insular towns. Just a great show
Undoubtedly one of the best series ever. Ever.
It's a pity that the show ended with Cohle stating that the light is winning. It feels like a cop-out, an attempt to inject hope into a story that closely resembles the dark reality of life. An "all's well that ends well" attempt.
I don't think a man like Rust, resembling a modern day Schopenhauer, would stray from his nihilism into this "hopeful" statement.
Sometimes there is no hope.
The King in Yellow and Carcosa are not occult beliefs! It is fiction!
Hey thats elon
To say The King in Yellow is "dangerous" is a gross exaggeration. Just because it's "occult knowledge" doesn't mean it can harm you 😂.
If that thing has power then it definitely can harm you
Looney tunes rust bro
Brooo anyone reading this, just watch this and take shrooms…….that’s all I’m gonna say 🤷🏽♂️
All will get back to void. Void always wins.
Was really excited to discover a bideo essay on the Lovecraftian themes in True Detective.
Then you started talking about evil forces and certain fictional books being inherently evil or dangerous. Then i clicked on your channel and understood.
I prefer the analysis of fiction to be undertaken from a secular point of view to avoid superstitious bias, like suggesting that there is some sort of metaphysical evil lying at the hearts of certain pieces of literary fiction. And i see you've even gone to the effort of doubling down on these ideas in the comments section.
I will be sure to avoid your channel in the future. Cool editing style tho.
Secular biases are much better, right?
A lot of name-dropping here with no follow thru.
Did you watch the other parts?