I watched to the end, it took 3 days. I had given up on training studies but you guys actually make it enjoyable to hear all this data and insight. So much transparency and honesty. Happy Birthday Zac!🎉
I listened to it on spotify in my car already, but I wasn't able to see the graphs. Now I'm watching what I missed there. Absolute fantastic work and I cannot understate how stoked I am to see this information being discussed without any paywall etc.. I tried running similar models on my own training data of 5 years. However, my statistics knowledge is not as good as yours and you're obviously working with different data. I'm really stoked to see this! 😃
Guys, I listened to this on Apple Podcasts, but I do plan to watch it here too… huge thanks for doing this, not only the research itself but translating it to us; this is fantastic and I look forward to the other 3 episodes ;) P.S.: you could invite dr Zourdos to one of these discussions :)
I do research using indoor air quality data and honestly I find deep dives in study design and statistics like this so sooo helpful and informative for my own stuff even though the subjects r totally different !! very inspiring for me to introduce different statistical concepts to my field :^D
In the 2:44 time range "I think the dminishing returns are going to be underestimated across social media, compared to what I think they demonstrate" That's a massive understatement as little Milo and the rest of the crew jump on this paper like drowning men on a liferaft.
Indeed. Just watched a Milo video where he more than insinuates that most people could probably benefit from and recover from 25+ sets per muscle group per week. It seems completely out of this world to me. "Just cut a few sets from other muscle groups if u want to focus on legs" - mate, I could stop training everything else and nothing would allow me to go from 10 to 25+ weekly sets of squats and hamstring work.
Finally have a possible answer to a question i couldn’t believe no one had answered yet: what is the actual shape of the dose response curve of volume-hypertrophy? Not a surprise, it’s diminishing returns, but nice to see that clearly stated and graphed. Everywhere else seemed to hand wave at diminishing returns but state a linear relationship, which never made any physiologic sense.
If I watched TIK History's lecture on National Socialism for 5 hours, I can listen to a lecture about how volume impacts hypertrophy for 5 hours. LET'S GO!
The fact that this kind of high level academic discussion is freely available to lifting nerds everywhere is just incredible. What a time to be alive.
Two guys who look like they’ve never touched a weight in their life. So high level.
@@TravisHowrish-v2c Everyone knows you have to bench 315 to get your PHD... Don't be a meathead 😂
I watched to the end, it took 3 days. I had given up on training studies but you guys actually make it enjoyable to hear all this data and insight. So much transparency and honesty. Happy Birthday Zac!🎉
Jesus guys I looked at the length and thought it must be another Greg Nuckols podcast.
Same
I listened to it on spotify in my car already, but I wasn't able to see the graphs. Now I'm watching what I missed there. Absolute fantastic work and I cannot understate how stoked I am to see this information being discussed without any paywall etc.. I tried running similar models on my own training data of 5 years. However, my statistics knowledge is not as good as yours and you're obviously working with different data. I'm really stoked to see this! 😃
I'm very hyped to work my way through this.
5 hours 🍿🍿🍿
my body is ready
I hope the data daddies are gentle with us
This was phenomenal, well done lads ;)
Ready SET go!! I’m here for it!
A monster episode. Thank you, gentlemen
3.3 hours at 1.5x speed
Guys, I listened to this on Apple Podcasts, but I do plan to watch it here too… huge thanks for doing this, not only the research itself but translating it to us; this is fantastic and I look forward to the other 3 episodes ;)
P.S.: you could invite dr Zourdos to one of these discussions :)
It is nice that you decided to release a real podcast, as SBS now only releases quarter-sessions.
I do research using indoor air quality data and honestly I find deep dives in study design and statistics like this so sooo helpful and informative for my own stuff even though the subjects r totally different !! very inspiring for me to introduce different statistical concepts to my field :^D
5 hours omg, I have to plan this into my next 2 weeks
4:47:33 was the study regarding the calves shrinking in a study when they weren’t trained? Thought I heard of this one but not sure of study lol
This is way too short. Where’s part 2? Great work kings!
5hours!? What is this, stronger by science?
Great one
Wait!! Whaaaaat !!! 5 hour🤣😐🤩
In the 2:44 time range
"I think the dminishing returns are going to be underestimated across social media, compared to what I think they demonstrate"
That's a massive understatement as little Milo and the rest of the crew jump on this paper like drowning men on a liferaft.
Indeed. Just watched a Milo video where he more than insinuates that most people could probably benefit from and recover from 25+ sets per muscle group per week. It seems completely out of this world to me.
"Just cut a few sets from other muscle groups if u want to focus on legs" - mate, I could stop training everything else and nothing would allow me to go from 10 to 25+ weekly sets of squats and hamstring work.
@@sebastianbechpetersen858 Fractional Sets ist the keyword
Maybe I missed it because I skipped to different sections but sets at or close to failure was taken into account?
Great 👍
what about weekly volume spread out throughout week? I find hard to believe it doesn't change the volume metric a bit.
How do you not pee for five hours?
This episode is a data science smorgasbord
SEASON 2 LETS GO
Finally have a possible answer to a question i couldn’t believe no one had answered yet: what is the actual shape of the dose response curve of volume-hypertrophy? Not a surprise, it’s diminishing returns, but nice to see that clearly stated and graphed. Everywhere else seemed to hand wave at diminishing returns but state a linear relationship, which never made any physiologic sense.
You guys are the Dan Carlin of fitness podcasters
If I watched TIK History's lecture on National Socialism for 5 hours, I can listen to a lecture about how volume impacts hypertrophy for 5 hours. LET'S GO!
The mics being off is really disappointing
So 20 Fractional sets for biceps would be 40 sets of rows?
yes
anybody have a synopsis?
@@dyl923gonz7 more is better with diminishing returns until it isn't anymore for practical reasons.
@@Yajoy-kh3kc Nothing new, then?
Anyone have a better synopsis than that given above?
Recorded too quiet. Can’t hear well.
FIVE!!!🥵
Great content. But 5 hours! You need a producer. 😂Either cut down to 1h or divide up to 2-3 episodes 1h each.
Do these guys only care about muscle hypertrophy?
Do they ever even mutter the words “connective tissue”?