My favourite thing about this video which I feel really encapsulates the patience required with Bonsai , is at 1:40 when you said you could see this "rapidly becoming one of your favourite trees, in the next few years". There are very few things we do nowadays where "rapidly" and "the next few years" could be referencing the same time period. Great to see the excitement!
Nice!!! Benichidori is a tough cultivar to find!! Grafted or not…….. I’ve been on the lookout for one a long while…… Thank you for sharing!! I hope it’s been doing and IS DOING well.
It is funny and nice to see how enthusiastic you are about this acer, I myself have been searching for this for a while now I finally found one myself! I look forward to your new videos about your benichidori how he is doing it and what you are all going to do with it, we just have to wait and it is almost spring again!
That's a pretty maple for sure. I appreciate anyone experimenting so not trying to be negative. The current thinking horticulturaly is not to cover wounds with any kind of sealant but to make as clean a cut as possible then let nature do its thing. Apparently you are as likely to seal in moisture, fungal spores, viruses etc, as you are out. Look forward to seeing more on this tree. Cheers. Sid.
Beautiful Acer palmatum ‘Beni-chidori’. Fine you talk about your thoughts, but do you have a picture in mind for the future of this maple? A remark from me about putting sticky foils over wounds: you trap a lot of moisture underneath, prevent breathing of the wood and invite fungi to invade. On the other side it is good to prevent drying out and dead ends. In my garden I never use anything on wounds after pruning shrubs and trees. But in some cases I will use a good paste. Research has shown that putting a good paste on wounds can help, but not in plants with wet wood like elm trees and most Acer.
Hey, I have a acer palmatum kiyohime. How can I keep it small but still thicken up the trunk. I really want to know. I am not an adult yet but I love bonsai, please could you tell me how to keep it small, but thicken the trunk. Thanks from the UK
To thicken a trunk, free growth is required. A useful technique is the sacrifice branch. A branch near the top of the tree is allowed to grow freely until the trunk is thicker. The sacrifice is cut off when the trunk has thickened enough. You can train another branch as a sacrifice to continue thickening, or move on to the next stage. A couple of tips: maples can heal scars well, but it's good idea where possible to select a branch at the back of the tree, so that when it is removed, any scar isn't visible from the front; carefully combing and spreading the roots out when repotting helps the base of the trunk thicken and flare out, making the base of the trunk look thicker; the faster the growth, the faster thickening happens, if you need a little bit of thickening, in the pot is fine - but a lot of thickening might justify a larger pot or even planting in the ground for a couple of years. Here's an interesting article, scroll down a bit for japanese maple bonsaitonight.com/2020/03/03/onumas-mini-bonsai-growing-techniques/
I like how you explain what you are doing and also how you handle and approach even small things After you went for a foil instead of a paste on the apex I smashed that subscribe button.
Good evening l have the same tree but smaller and very thin...when my daughter got it for me it was a nice red colour but in the past couple of weeks it chanced to a brownish colour and the leaves are curly up and dieing...can you help me out...can this tree be outside
I really recommend you to buy a smaller knob cutter for the work on smaller trees like this. I did not regret it. Ryuga has one with 175 mm. Thanks for the video!
Don't envy You as you have taken on a lot there, with all those bulges and inverse taper. A lot of the imported material has these issues. Good luck with this tree. Regards Iqbal
Great color! Thanks for posting the video. I’m confused. It is almost spring here in New Zealand so I was wondering if I should prune my Japanese maple at the same time when doing the repotting. It badly needs a repotting. I watched Ryan Neil’s video on RUclips and he said Japanese maple should not be pruned in spring as they would bleed. Should I repot, reduce the root ball and leave the maple growing without pruning it? Thanks
Safest option is to repot, and wait until the tree has recovered before pruning. So I would prune after the first flush has hardened off - at the earliest. With hindsight, it would have been possible to prune in autumn/fall and repot in spring - but that is moot. It is possible to prune and repot at the same time but it depends on how much work is needed and how much energy the tree is carrying
Hi Intersting work i. Made a air layerng with an Oridono nidhiki maple and the stump i am thinking to make a shohin as it has an interesting base .. will take time to heal the branches i will cut in september to give a shape to the stump .. the top that has air layered is fine and growing well
@@grobonsai it is always amusing and good for learning .. .. i was thinking that as the stump has already few . 10-12” branches i could do thread liering ( alredy successfully done 3x.. )or few grafting by contact that i have never done so make a crown around a 1 » shaft maybe next year should try at repotting to put on a rock it all depends by the root sytem and if i find a suitable rock I have a small Shindeshojo on rock that i am workin like one of the tree shown at Pastorale Of walt dusney’s fantasia in the centaur scene
Hi! So there is bonsai place here in the USA that imported two of these beauties, I’m always attracted to unique and rare maples. My question is about the price, knowing this variety is very hard to get anywhere in the world;how much should I pay for a younger Beni Chidori? It’s already a bonsai and asking 300 dollars. Any advice will be very helpful. Thanks
The tree in the video was £300 when I got it. Without seeing the tree you found it’s hard to say. If you can afford it, and you like the tree go for it. But look around at what else you can get for the same money to help put it into perspective- that’s what I always do
i adore my maple so much as well but its a skinnier, taller one. i think its younger because its not as dense either and i really wanna help it get denser!
They are beautiful trees aren’t they! This one is not so dense, I have left it to grow longer to regain strength as the roots were unhealthy. Have fun with your maple!
Hello, I recently bought a Beni chidori Maple and when I received it I verified that the leaves are completely green. Is this normal this color at the beginning of June? Thank you
@@grobonsai Apparently they are both very similar. If yours is Seigen it's just wonderful. The one I bought is sold to me as Beni chidori, but seeing it so green made me doubt it. Whatever it is, I hope it's one of the two. Greetings and thanks.
This tree is in a training pot. We haven’t spoken since I found out it is a Seigen miss-sold as beni chidori. Foil is no better than cut paste in my experience. Being easier to work with I now mostly use cut paste. But foil definitely promotes healing, no doubt
@@grobonsai bollox I had got 2 one was a beni the other a seigen, I sold the beni to later find I’d kept a seigen which hated up here so it went away last year :( pretty gutted the Japanese did the old switcharoony with these, all were supposed to be beni but less than half it seems were :(
Hi Daniel, I fell out of love with this tree. After the saga of being sent the wrong tree, then it turned out to be Seigen not beni chidori, I just can't face it. Not done anything with it except put it into a training pot to grow wild.
Oh man! Seigen or Beni, it is still a pretty little thing. 😂. Our spring is coming and can't wait to air layer my jap maples, have a few from garden centre materials, but can't get myself to just chop them and waste the tops. Both seigen and benichidori are on the wish list :). Will be doing shishigashira, emperor I, Senkaku and trident soon
It’s adhesive aluminium/aluminum foil from a hardware store. I’d seen it used by Peter Warren so have been experimenting. It definitely encourages callus to form. Time will tell how it compares to cut paste. It’s definitely more fiddly and doesn’t look so good...
You are very luck to find and buy think Awesome JMT. In America this would cost me one Arm and a hand to buy this. Wish someone build a Nursery to Quarantine UK Trees. It seem CHINA don't have to do this Quarantine trees that much because we are getting Bugs that are hurting some of our Hard wood Trees out West. So sad these day all about MONEY in the USA. Take care and try to see Peter Chan at Heron Bonsai is great.
I just don't understand the Dump Government people in Both Counties. First Just have a place in each Countries have a Site to keep them and also Use UV Sterilizer lights then use a Large Shipping Containers with UV light Sterilizer to kill the Pest again ,Then have a east coast and west coast to do them same in America. I think the UV Lights would be faster And use carbon dioxide to kill the rest of the Pest. All tree love Carbon Dioxide and that what may the grow. We are getting kills my China cheap Goods and they pay no Tax. Sorry to see the BONSAI WORLD has to be the ones that hurts. Just hope my ship does not come in, I will then help the Bonsai World the Right Way. Thanks for your great Time......
It is a risk to import plants in soil from Asian country’s. We’ve got a lot of disease and pest from there nowadays here in Europe and also in America. Controles are never without mistakes. But shipping between European nurseries and America is a good alternative. I by a lot of pre-bonsaiplants from nurseries in Boskoop in Holland (Esveld and others). Esveld has a very extended collection of Acer. Lots of succes with this Acer palmatum ‘Beni-chidori’
My favourite thing about this video which I feel really encapsulates the patience required with Bonsai , is at 1:40 when you said you could see this "rapidly becoming one of your favourite trees, in the next few years". There are very few things we do nowadays where "rapidly" and "the next few years" could be referencing the same time period. Great to see the excitement!
Thanks, that’s a great insight!
AGREED!! Bonsai is all about patience and planning……. mostly patience
Nice!!! Benichidori is a tough cultivar to find!! Grafted or not…….. I’ve been on the lookout for one a long while……
Thank you for sharing!! I hope it’s been doing and IS DOING well.
Unfortunately it was later revealed to be seigen mislabelled as benichidiri :(
@@grobonsaioh no!!! 😢
When I very first started, this tree was the very definition of Bonsai to me. Great stuff 🙏🏼
Lovely stuff. I’m glad it’s not just me who gets overly excited about trees lol
Haha I know right! It’s all good fun 😁
Congrats on your new arrival. Lovely specimen. Good luck with it. Thanks
Thanks Matt 🙏
LOL......so great to see your exidement and YES i know the feeling.
Thanks lol I need another new-tree day soon 😊
It is funny and nice to see how enthusiastic you are about this acer, I myself have been searching for this for a while now I finally found one myself! I look forward to your new videos about your benichidori how he is doing it and what you are all going to do with it, we just have to wait and it is almost spring again!
Haha thanks for watching. This tree badly needs a repot, won’t be long now especially the mild weather we are having!
That thing is on fire..great tree...I appreciate your videos.
Thanks for watching 🙏
You've got yourself a new subscriber. I'll be looking forward to seeing your bonsai progress!
Thanks for the subscribe Hans!
That's a pretty maple for sure. I appreciate anyone experimenting so not trying to be negative. The current thinking horticulturaly is not to cover wounds with any kind of sealant but to make as clean a cut as possible then let nature do its thing. Apparently you are as likely to seal in moisture, fungal spores, viruses etc, as you are out. Look forward to seeing more on this tree. Cheers. Sid.
I think there are advantages and disadvantages to both approaches. Thanks for the watch 👍
@@grobonsai np
Nice tree, has the potential to be an exceptional mature bonsai with beautiful structure. I'm envious.
Thanks 🙏
Beautiful Acer palmatum ‘Beni-chidori’. Fine you talk about your thoughts, but do you have a picture in mind for the future of this maple? A remark from me about putting sticky foils over wounds: you trap a lot of moisture underneath, prevent breathing of the wood and invite fungi to invade. On the other side it is good to prevent drying out and dead ends. In my garden I never use anything on wounds after pruning shrubs and trees. But in some cases I will use a good paste. Research has shown that putting a good paste on wounds can help, but not in plants with wet wood like elm trees and most Acer.
Hey, I have a acer palmatum kiyohime. How can I keep it small but still thicken up the trunk. I really want to know. I am not an adult yet but I love bonsai, please could you tell me how to keep it small, but thicken the trunk.
Thanks from the UK
To thicken a trunk, free growth is required. A useful technique is the sacrifice branch. A branch near the top of the tree is allowed to grow freely until the trunk is thicker. The sacrifice is cut off when the trunk has thickened enough. You can train another branch as a sacrifice to continue thickening, or move on to the next stage. A couple of tips: maples can heal scars well, but it's good idea where possible to select a branch at the back of the tree, so that when it is removed, any scar isn't visible from the front; carefully combing and spreading the roots out when repotting helps the base of the trunk thicken and flare out, making the base of the trunk look thicker; the faster the growth, the faster thickening happens, if you need a little bit of thickening, in the pot is fine - but a lot of thickening might justify a larger pot or even planting in the ground for a couple of years. Here's an interesting article, scroll down a bit for japanese maple bonsaitonight.com/2020/03/03/onumas-mini-bonsai-growing-techniques/
I like how you explain what you are doing and also how you handle and approach even small things
After you went for a foil instead of a paste on the apex I smashed that subscribe button.
Brilliant 🙂 thanks for the feedback 👍 and the sub
At 1:30 you got so excited that your face turned the same colour as the leaves. Really nice tree, such delicate, pretty leaves.
😂😂
LOL...so cool to see how happy you are!
Can’t beat new tree days 😁 Thanks for the watch!
Great success, well done!
Good evening l have the same tree but smaller and very thin...when my daughter got it for me it was a nice red colour but in the past couple of weeks it chanced to a brownish colour and the leaves are curly up and dieing...can you help me out...can this tree be outside
I really recommend you to buy a smaller knob cutter for the work on smaller trees like this. I did not regret it. Ryuga has one with 175 mm. Thanks for the video!
You are so right - it was really awkward, thanks 🙏
Don't envy You as you have taken on a lot there, with all those bulges and inverse taper. A lot of the imported material has these issues.
Good luck with this tree.
Regards
Iqbal
Thanks for the watch Iqbal 😀
Mr. Iqbal! Good to know you are back! Miss you here.
GREat to be back, will start making new video shortly. Thank you for the warm welcome.
Hello from down under.
Lovely tree looking forward to seeing how it changes.
Hi Shane! Thanks for watching.
Great color! Thanks for posting the video. I’m confused. It is almost spring here in New Zealand so I was wondering if I should prune my Japanese maple at the same time when doing the repotting. It badly needs a repotting. I watched Ryan Neil’s video on RUclips and he said Japanese maple should not be pruned in spring as they would bleed. Should I repot, reduce the root ball and leave the maple growing without pruning it? Thanks
Safest option is to repot, and wait until the tree has recovered before pruning. So I would prune after the first flush has hardened off - at the earliest. With hindsight, it would have been possible to prune in autumn/fall and repot in spring - but that is moot. It is possible to prune and repot at the same time but it depends on how much work is needed and how much energy the tree is carrying
@@grobonsai thank you so much. Very helpful. I guess I would just report for now and wait when it is safe to prune.
Amazing tree. I would have been as excited probably lol. I probably would have been scared to cut it for a week too though.
I know what you mean, I should have waited but it’s good fun 😁
Are the clipped branches good for propagating this species?
Hi
Intersting work i. Made a air layerng with an Oridono nidhiki maple and the stump i am thinking to make a shohin as it has an interesting base .. will take time to heal the branches i will cut in september to give a shape to the stump .. the top that has air layered is fine and growing well
Sounds like a fun project
@@grobonsai it is always amusing and good for learning .. .. i was thinking that as the stump has already few . 10-12” branches i could do thread liering ( alredy successfully done 3x.. )or few grafting by contact that i have never done so make a crown around a 1 » shaft maybe next year should try at repotting to put on a rock it all depends by the root sytem and if i find a suitable rock
I have a small Shindeshojo on rock that i am workin like one of the tree shown at Pastorale Of walt dusney’s fantasia in the centaur scene
Hi! So there is bonsai place here in the USA that imported two of these beauties, I’m always attracted to unique and rare maples. My question is about the price, knowing this variety is very hard to get anywhere in the world;how much should I pay for a younger Beni Chidori? It’s already a bonsai and asking 300 dollars. Any advice will be very helpful. Thanks
The tree in the video was £300 when I got it. Without seeing the tree you found it’s hard to say. If you can afford it, and you like the tree go for it. But look around at what else you can get for the same money to help put it into perspective- that’s what I always do
i adore my maple so much as well but its a skinnier, taller one. i think its younger because its not as dense either and i really wanna help it get denser!
They are beautiful trees aren’t they! This one is not so dense, I have left it to grow longer to regain strength as the roots were unhealthy. Have fun with your maple!
Beautiful bonsai
Thank you 🙏
Gro Bonsai
This is Mark saying very beautiful Maple nice job 👌👍✌️
Thanks Mark, take care 🙏
The lobes seems so narrow are you sure it is by chance a seigen?❤
You are correct, it is seigen, miss-sold as beni chidori :(
Hello, I recently bought a Beni chidori Maple and when I received it I verified that the leaves are completely green. Is this normal this color at the beginning of June? Thank you
I believe so, however I recently found out my tree is seigen but was miss-sold as a beni chidori 😒
@@grobonsai Apparently they are both very similar. If yours is Seigen it's just wonderful. The one I bought is sold to me as Beni chidori, but seeing it so green made me doubt it. Whatever it is, I hope it's one of the two. Greetings and thanks.
@Gro Bonsai what is the result of using the aluminium tape?
Very good, it is healing nicely, but not yet complete. I’ll do an update when the time is right. Thanks for writing
@@grobonsai thanks .... hope it will be soon :D
2 questions pal, how is this beauty these days? And how did you get on using foil? Hope all is well
This tree is in a training pot. We haven’t spoken since I found out it is a Seigen miss-sold as beni chidori. Foil is no better than cut paste in my experience. Being easier to work with I now mostly use cut paste. But foil definitely promotes healing, no doubt
@@grobonsai bollox I had got 2 one was a beni the other a seigen, I sold the beni to later find I’d kept a seigen which hated up here so it went away last year :( pretty gutted the Japanese did the old switcharoony with these, all were supposed to be beni but less than half it seems were :(
Where did you buy this bonsai ?
It's time for an update on this tree o think :)
Hi Daniel, I fell out of love with this tree. After the saga of being sent the wrong tree, then it turned out to be Seigen not beni chidori, I just can't face it. Not done anything with it except put it into a training pot to grow wild.
Oh man! Seigen or Beni, it is still a pretty little thing. 😂. Our spring is coming and can't wait to air layer my jap maples, have a few from garden centre materials, but can't get myself to just chop them and waste the tops. Both seigen and benichidori are on the wish list :). Will be doing shishigashira, emperor I, Senkaku and trident soon
Akane would also be a great addition but pretty difficult to get in Aus.
Enjoyed that Darren
I got one myself from Rob, will take the wire off myself this week
Thanks for the watch 👍 have fun with yours!
Hi Gro, what Kind of patch is that, It's the first time I see something like that. Thanks
It’s adhesive aluminium/aluminum foil from a hardware store. I’d seen it used by Peter Warren so have been experimenting. It definitely encourages callus to form. Time will tell how it compares to cut paste. It’s definitely more fiddly and doesn’t look so good...
Look into parafilm for wound sealing, and apparently grafting.
Thanks, I haven’t tried parafilm - I’ll look into it
First time seeing sticky back foil used 🤔 interesting to see how it goes :) great video Darren :)
Thanks Rob. Yeah I came across it on a Mirai stream with Peter Warren. We’ll see how it goes
you can be realy proud!!!✂➕🌲💪and I am jealous 😭😭😭😭😂
Thank you 🙏
nice vid. i hope mine gets big as yours. left a like
Thanks Michael, you’re a gentleman 👍
How is the tree doing now?
Hi Jeff, editing a video currently for this tree, will be the next upload in a couple days
An update is here: Japanese Maple Bonsai Repotting (2020) ruclips.net/video/KWE6gm0knbg/видео.html
Your intro...extrmly nice.....sir.
Thanks 🙏
Lots to Lern
Indeed
Good
Ok that Maple is now definitely protected from ... being abducted by Aliens, thx to the tinfoil hat u created for it.
Wtf ?
😂 love it
You are very luck to find and buy think Awesome JMT. In America this would cost me one Arm and a hand to buy this. Wish someone build a Nursery to Quarantine UK Trees. It seem CHINA don't have to do this Quarantine trees that much because we are getting Bugs that are hurting some of our Hard wood Trees out West. So sad these day all about MONEY in the USA. Take care and try to see Peter Chan at Heron Bonsai is great.
Thanks, I think importing to the UK will be stopped in the future also
I just don't understand the Dump Government people in Both Counties. First Just have a place in each Countries have a Site to keep them and also Use UV Sterilizer lights then use a Large Shipping Containers with UV light Sterilizer to kill the Pest again ,Then have a east coast and west coast to do them same in America. I think the UV Lights would be faster And use carbon dioxide to kill the rest of the Pest. All tree love Carbon Dioxide and that what may the grow. We are getting kills my China cheap Goods and they pay no Tax. Sorry to see the BONSAI WORLD has to be the ones that hurts. Just hope my ship does not come in, I will then help the Bonsai World the Right Way. Thanks for your great Time......
It is a risk to import plants in soil from Asian country’s. We’ve got a lot of disease and pest from there nowadays here in Europe and also in America. Controles are never without mistakes. But shipping between European nurseries and America is a good alternative. I by a lot of pre-bonsaiplants from nurseries in Boskoop in Holland (Esveld and others). Esveld has a very extended collection of Acer. Lots of succes with this Acer palmatum ‘Beni-chidori’