explaining how the tree chooses the apex and how specific pruning and bending can trick it so it doesn't dominate from the new buds is game changing! I had no idea - only a general sense. Man, your problem solving IRL helps me make sense of my own trees so much better than most other bonsai videos, thanks heaps!
This is the only channel that fully explains what to do and how to do it to achieve your goal without any unhelpful information. Love your tree by the way.
I collected an oak 3 years ago and I left it alone for 2 years. Was growing healthy and strong. This year I did a hard chop with no back up and now it’s just a stump and hasn’t pushed any buds or anything. It’s been 2 months and nothing. I’m still hopefully. 😢
Thanks! I’ve never tried but keep hearing they are tricky to collect. They thicken fast once they get going so maybe planting some acorns is worth a try?
great video , thanks, would you leave the tree to put out lower branches and let them establish again over a few years and then do something similar again if you wanted a shorter tree , the reason i ask is that i have several oaks that were collected and have chopped and left a few branches and wired for new leaders , but they are about 18-24 inches tall with very bare lower sections , and if i leave them as they are then ill have trees much too tall with very sparce lower straight trunks , thanks for the explanation , it makes a lot of sense
You can but you have got to get them pumped up even more. So we’re going up a pot size, heavy fertiliser. If you’re happy with the height though, chopping is counterproductive. In that case grafting is a better option
Oak graft really well, I had a similar piece of material years back and went the grafting route. Most were grafted in the end. It'll take a really long time for an Oak to thicken enough to make the next trunk section visually appealing but you'll have a better image in the end. Good luck.
Good vid... How far down do you think chopping it like that will get the tree to bud? Thread grafting might be an option if it doesn't bud far down on the trunk. Look forward to seeing the update on this project, thanks.
Good luck! The broom shape is still an option, but I see so many wild oaks with these heavy old branches at all different heights I’d like to try emulate that aesthetic - if the tree plays along
That’s an interesting question. Honestly I don’t know. My understanding of tree height is that it’s determined by the ability of the roots and vascular system to ‘pump’ water high enough, as well as the trees available energy to make the growth. A tree growing from a crack in rocks will be limited by the environment, with less root space and resources to sustain growth. A tree in fertile soil will be limited by the vascular system vs gravity. How these limits manifest from the trees perspective probably is hormonal to a large extent. But I’m just guessing, no research carried out to back this up! I will look into it. Edit: oh and genetics plays a part too!
@grobonsai that's exactly what I was thinking if it can't "pump" water that high, then hormones aren't going to make it up there either. The vascular system absolutely would be dictated by genetics, too.
It’s from the same collection I bought that the cotoneaster came from. Could be one the guy dug as he did collect a few. It could also be from a bonsai nursery field growing them (herons) as he did get some from there and it looks to have had bonsai work done in the roots
Great explanation on tree physiology and how to get back buds! Nice one Darren! I definitely agree with your backup plan 🌳🌳
explaining how the tree chooses the apex and how specific pruning and bending can trick it so it doesn't dominate from the new buds is game changing! I had no idea - only a general sense. Man, your problem solving IRL helps me make sense of my own trees so much better than most other bonsai videos, thanks heaps!
So good!!! The whole time I’m thinking.. chop it, chop it, CHOP IT! 💪🏼😎💚
This is the only channel that fully explains what to do and how to do it to achieve your goal without any unhelpful information. Love your tree by the way.
Wicked! Not enough oak demonstrations. Quality quercus showtime. Love to see how this develops
That’s some substantial material there Darren 👍
Great explanation!
You explained this process perfectly, thank yoi
Glad it was helpful!
I've got a big oak I dug out in the winter. I'll be doing something similar once it's healthy 😊
Nice concept but now I gotten very much impatient to see what result it gives, cheers!
I’ll post an update ofc
I collected an oak 3 years ago and I left it alone for 2 years. Was growing healthy and strong. This year I did a hard chop with no back up and now it’s just a stump and hasn’t pushed any buds or anything. It’s been 2 months and nothing. I’m still hopefully. 😢
It’s still early, oak are among the last to do anything
Gracias por los conceptos.
Salud.
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Thank you for interesting video!
I'd like to see it in one or two months.
Definitely!
@@grobonsai Can't wait :)
Wow !!!!!!!! I love this one! It has a bone yard feel I have tried digging up baby oaks but it’s hard to get the whole root
Thanks! I’ve never tried but keep hearing they are tricky to collect. They thicken fast once they get going so maybe planting some acorns is worth a try?
top video again ....thanks
Thanks again!
Nothing better than a good 'oops' moment. All great advice Darren - I just wish I had known all these 10 years ago :)
This isn’t new to you Xavier! 🙂 edit: oh 10 years ago, I see what you mean now. My eyes read days for some reason
great video , thanks, would you leave the tree to put out lower branches and let them establish again over a few years and then do something similar again if you wanted a shorter tree , the reason i ask is that i have several oaks that were collected and have chopped and left a few branches and wired for new leaders , but they are about 18-24 inches tall with very bare lower sections , and if i leave them as they are then ill have trees much too tall with very sparce lower straight trunks , thanks for the explanation , it makes a lot of sense
You can but you have got to get them pumped up even more. So we’re going up a pot size, heavy fertiliser. If you’re happy with the height though, chopping is counterproductive. In that case grafting is a better option
I can see that you had planned on trying a thread graft until you saw buds appear! lol great job!!
Nah that’s a last resort for me, will graft if no luck from hard pruning
Oak graft really well, I had a similar piece of material years back and went the grafting route. Most were grafted in the end. It'll take a really long time for an Oak to thicken enough to make the next trunk section visually appealing but you'll have a better image in the end.
Good luck.
Good vid... How far down do you think chopping it like that will get the tree to bud? Thread grafting might be an option if it doesn't bud far down on the trunk. Look forward to seeing the update on this project, thanks.
It can produce buds anywhere, the little shoot that formed after the initial repot is 10cm above the base
ive vjust cut my oak back to bare trunk a month ago so fingers crossed ,yours was a nice broom style as it was ,are u goin for a formal upright now?
Good luck! The broom shape is still an option, but I see so many wild oaks with these heavy old branches at all different heights I’d like to try emulate that aesthetic - if the tree plays along
Looking forward to progress videos on this in the future!?
Yeah I will post an update
What kind of puddy was he using?
Wait does that chemical start to fade as an effect of gravity in actual trees? Like a predetermined height regulation
That’s an interesting question. Honestly I don’t know. My understanding of tree height is that it’s determined by the ability of the roots and vascular system to ‘pump’ water high enough, as well as the trees available energy to make the growth. A tree growing from a crack in rocks will be limited by the environment, with less root space and resources to sustain growth. A tree in fertile soil will be limited by the vascular system vs gravity. How these limits manifest from the trees perspective probably is hormonal to a large extent. But I’m just guessing, no research carried out to back this up! I will look into it.
Edit: oh and genetics plays a part too!
@grobonsai that's exactly what I was thinking if it can't "pump" water that high, then hormones aren't going to make it up there either. The vascular system absolutely would be dictated by genetics, too.
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Fantastically explained, yet again. Thank you, Darren. That trunk is a specimen - beautiful bark. Do you know it's age or history?
It’s from the same collection I bought that the cotoneaster came from. Could be one the guy dug as he did collect a few. It could also be from a bonsai nursery field growing them (herons) as he did get some from there and it looks to have had bonsai work done in the roots