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Denial Official Trailer #1 (2016) - Rachel Weisz Movie HD
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Acclaimed writer and historian Deborah E. Lipstadt must battle for historical truth to prove the Holocaust actually occurred when David Irving, a renowned denier, sues her for libel.
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"Not all opinions are equal"... Finally! Someone says it out loud.
amen.
109 times?
Truth fears no investigation.
“It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.”
Mark Twain's quote speaks volumes on this subject.
Yeap, Irving is a master fooler
@@lashachakhunashvili1399 Well, it can always go the other way around. But let me just ask you this : Who prohibits the other side to speak out ? The "evil" revisionists or the Holocaust believers ?
Bruh your profile pic speaks volumes
@@julien.s2002 This has no bearing on the accruacy of the Holocaust happening.
@@julien.s2002 This story is about how you DO have the freedom of speech to be a holocaust denier in the UK/US. And the rest of us have the freedom of speech to tell you that you're an idiot for thinking that way.
Not a single argument against Irving's evidences by the historian in this trailer
It's not about what I know. I'm saying nothing's presented against Irving's arguments here
Ok, so thats the case. I will watch the documentary. Thanks
Yeah because they're saving it for the film DUH... Jesus christ, if it had shown the counter arguments you'd be complaining that the trailer showed too much
It's a movie trailer. Its purpose is to get you to watch the movie.
As we know they usually show the best parts in trailers, hence there is nothing out of ordinary argument. I guess it will be a propaganda showing how cultish deniers are, showing Irving as some mad nut who pays for posters on the street. Basicly blatant forged lies, turning everything upside down. I'm already disgusted by it.
You just made David Irving more popular , most people don't know who he is.
yeh sure the trial did wonders to his career - no historian would ever take him seriously .
The truth asserted fears no popularising of liars
@@freerainful the judge was obviously payed by the jews
I know a historian who does@@freerainful
Truth fears no investigation
And that’s why he lost, and she won.
Irving didn’t care about the truth
@@AmethystEyesI presume you have no fear in establishing precisely that then???
We have eye witnesses accounts of the holocaust as well as pictures and records discussion over
@@alicianelson1252That's adorable. 😂
David Irving is a legit world renowned WW2 Historian. One of the best and even Christopher Hitchens said so.
That fabricated evidence to justify and put in a good light the actions of the Nazi regime enforced upon the Jews, to which he was disowned and stripped of his reputation as a historian.
Death By Exile His reputation is still intact. So tell me exactly what he said that was fabricated? I'll agree that justifying the actions of Nazi's isn't nice but the issue is whether he lied or not and whether Lipsadt could prove her case.
mr t The judge's ruling during the court case that is portrayed in Denial: "Irving has for his own ideological reasons persistently and deliberately misrepresented and manipulated historical evidence; that for the same reasons he has portrayed Hitler in an unwarrantedly favourable light, principally in relation to his attitude towards and responsibility for the treatment of the Jews; that he is an active Holocaust denier; that he is anti-Semitic and racist, and that he associates with right-wing extremists who promote neo-Nazism... therefore the defence of justification succeeds... It follows that there must be judgment for the Defendants."
I believe there was an entire 700 page report done by a historian and his team of research assistants stating that Irving manipulated, suppressed and distorted historical information and documentation.
Irving was a world renowned WW2 historian but after he distorted facts and made unjust claims that were disproven his reputation in the academic world has been destroyed because once you actually study the primary documents and look at the information it is undeniable.
Will they do any reviews of Mr. Irwings arguments? Also, it's kind of funny how they've riddled the movie with hollywood catchphrases about freedom of speech because muh slander laws when they seem to have nothing against the outright censorship from their opposition. "I'm not against my freedom of speech. I'm against HIS freedom of speech!" should be the last lines.
Nope, you remember it fool. You started yapping about bone crushing machines. that's when you gave up.
Aaron Richards
Bone crushing machines exist as a time consuming method of rendering bones useable as a fine powder for fertilizing and regulating acidity in top soil. The bones must first have been stripped clean by a butcher, and then boiled or cleaned with maggots, and after this they must be dried, before they can be crushed in the machine.
I would bet my left testicle these were not used in the holocaust as they more or less require a butchering process and bone treatment process to render the bones crushable. I have not heard of any human butchering factories in Auschwitz. Neither have I heard of any human bone sun drying beds. And even if these existed, they would exist as a full violation of an SS order by Himmler (a violation, as well as not reporting a suspected violation, punished by death) that clearly states the corpses of the interned must not be used in any way and must be buried or cremated, since Himmler feared usage of the corpses would make the public aware of the extremely high death rate in the camps.
Ron Lewenberg
The fact you have to resort to the all too common ad hominem fallacy of calling anyone who questions your sanctioned truth 'mentally ill' suggests you're standing on a weak foundation. It is true, Yad Vashem has been able to 'commemorate' four and a half million Jews who in some way disappeared during the holocaust years, according to often unverified third party submissions. Yad Vashem themselves state that the fates of 'many' of these are unknown. In listed names, the number inexplicably drops to two million seven hundred thousand, whose status are either missing or dead, often for unknown reasons. (How often is not stated). The six million total, which is actually averaged around 5.5 million, is based on pre-war vs. post-war population censuses. Ergo, cause of death is not included. Hence, to conclude 'six million jews died in the gas chambers' is, to be frank, simply bullshit. To conclude six million jews died in the camps? Bullshit. As most serious early historians concluded, upwards of two and a half million jews died in the camps, with a total of slightly below five million to five and a half million dying in any way as a direct result of the war, including bombings, famine, sanitation disasters, mass executions in the field (so called 'anti-partisan actions'), riots, massacres, etc.
Yet apparently, I am mentally insane for saying this. Is that really the best reply you have?
Ron Lewenberg _"Yad Vashem listed 4 million Jews or 2/3 of those killed."_
Yad Vashem estimates that they have in one way or another documented 4.5 million people, either jews or people directly associated with jews (spouses etc) that in some way or another disappeared during the holocaust. This estimate includes Jewish soldiers that fought for the red army, if they are not specified as having died in combat, for instance. Of actually sorted names with complete profile information, there are 2.7 million. The fates of many of these people are unknown too. Yad Vashem does not state a percentage estimate of known vs. unknown fates.
_"If towns people under German occupation worked with the SS to kill Jews it was part of the Holocaust."_
This is not what I meant. Many Jews died as the Soviets retreated from their village or city. The Jews were usually detested in the non-Russian SSRs, since a very disproportional portion of the USSR local administration was staffed by Jews. To the Ukrainians, Poles, Belarussians, Balts, etc., the jews, often working for the govt., the police, the NKVD, etc., were seen as traitors supporting the Russian occupation and the various deliberate starvation events and mass executions they staged to control the locals. When the Soviet police and army left a town, there was suddenly no longer anyone protecting the jews left behind (the Soviets disliked the jews too, and would often give them the horrible task of slowing the German assault as the rest of the Soviets evacuated). Angry mobs would often slaughter the jews as a form of 'revenge'. The wehrmacht is known to have at times tried to stop these mobs, but most of the time the standard practice was to simply look the other way until German military police was established in the area (which preferred the more 'clean' deportation option). Are these jews also victims of the holocaust? Can you see my point? What does the 6 million figure actually mean? And great job ignoring most of what I wrote by the way...
Ron Lewenberg
The nazis were obsessed about having a thin veneer of law and order to cover up their crimes. If the occupied peoples thought there was some sort of justice system going on, they wouldn't revolt. If the nazis shot up a village, it was an 'anti-partisan action', carried out by military 'police' of the SS. Generally, they tried to avoid randomized killing. The only large scale blatant massacre by actual Germans 'in the field' (as opposed to in camps away from the public) was at Babi Yar at Kiev, where the SS and local Ukrainian police killed tens of thousands of jews in what was called an 'anti-partisan action'. I still think you don't understand what I'm saying. The nazis did murder loads of people...
The truth does not fear investigation. Surely upon further review the narrative would only be further proven right?
daniel pinner yes ainabsooyeky agree . Like religion
Yes and it has been proven right again and again, Irving didn't loose the trial because he questioned the official narrative, but because it was demonstrated that he manipulated his sources in order to fulfill his own narrative. This is something that makes you loose your credibility regardless of the subject
@Reinhard Heydrich yeah, that's why the media always criticizes Israel when they commit a crime (that's a good thing) seriously you guys are just a bunch of conspiracy theorists
There's also confirmation bias, where someone can be fixated in an idea or agenda so will find any proof to prove their point. If someone is persistent enough, they might find enough and only evidence to prove that it didn't happen.
The truth does not fear investigation ... yes, I guess that's why another Holocaust denier known as "Denierbud" won't give his real name.
Damn people waking up en masse according to the comments on these videos.
welcome to the Internet, where the rule of thumb is any and all opinions or statements of fact must be universally derided as some form of propaganda within nanoseconds!
Welcome to the internet, where people are sensitive to the biggest conspiracy theories.
@@srrlIdl they wear it as a badge of pride. the best bit is not having myocarditis!
the truth will come out
soon
GUNNY CAT not even a jew
GUNNY CAT again, you're showing your stupidity
swagatude freeman your covering their lies you are equally worthless
GUNNY CAT haha but your worth something? You may not want to accept it but you neo Nazis are the laughing stock of the world
This is such an inspirational film. I myself am the grandson of victims of the Shoah, so this really hits close to home.
My grandfather once told me the story of when he went to a German shop following the war and came across a bar of soap labeled "RJF" (pure Jewish fat)--for all he knew, that could have been his brother sitting their on the shelf. He ended up purchasing it and giving it a proper burial.
NEVER AGAIN!
Your grandfather was a liar. You are a liar. Jews lie 24/7.
Your little make believe story is really fucked up.
In Israel they have elaborate funerals for bars of soap.
Your touching Jewish story made me cry. Search youtube for “Monuments of Soap,” another great inspirational Jewish movie.
Thanks I will look it up. You know, the older I get the more I want to read about Jewish suffering.
/Pol/ is gonna have a field day
OY VEY
What does /POL/ mean?
HDGaming TV
/pol/ is the politically correct board on 4chan.
Rev up that short bus, I say.
@@dieselelectricrazor377 shut up
what about what's happening for palestinians now?
"like something didn't happen"..
there's some issues needed to be resolve then.
make a movie about it. this movie is not about it, so it should not be topic under here. please understand me, i'm not saying you're wrong. but this is not the right place for this debate.
+DoctorBahnausSee her sentance reminds me of this sir.
anyway, it's all about History!
We have no problem with jews. There's palestinian jews actually.
And yes it's a state, I'm a human who lives in that space, we are. We have a country Sir!!
And I don't say anything to let you engage with me about the subject.. So please stop :)
Oh, the "Palestinian Genocide" bullshit again.
There were less than 2 million Palestinians in the land of Israel in 1967 when the so called "occupation" began. Now there are 4,682,467 of them.
Genocide, in case non of of you knows, is supposed to DECREASE the number of people in a group.
+The Man With a Plan that's history?! are you sure
Sooo, when will the Native Americans get their story told?
I like this comment. Thanks. It is very important to tell the story of the Native Americans. Not sure what's happening in the USA, but in Canada my kids work on native history every year in school. Bottom line is that Native Americans are the aboriginals of this land, and always will be. Always.
No idea what you are talking about. We are talking about Holocaust denial and you are changing the topic to the oppression of Jews in communist Russia. Everyone knows that history and that Jews have been persecuted in many places. Past that I can't respond to what you are saying because I can't decipher your rantings. How can my identity be affected by Soviet oppression of Jews? Are you saying the no one has ever oppressed the Jews, only the Soviets? If that is your point then I would call you a moron but that would be an insult to morons.
You are a mindless racist who knows nothing about history an speaks in gibberish. In fact, you are not even doing history or politics. Your comments are all hate speech and thus not worthy of rebuttal. I feel sorry for your family, friends, and colleagues.
Native Americans are nothing. They aren't native to the country either. White Europeans are the national identity of the foundations of America. Native Americans were just natives to a small portion of the land.
I remember a chat I had once with a Shakespeare prof. We were discussing Merchant of Venice in relation to Jewish history. I remember he said that in a lot of the countries where the Jewish were kicked out, people in powerful places owed them a great deal of money. Often times when the debts were too high, some sort of rumor or scandal was put out there that put the majority of people against them and they ended up being kicked out of that country. The exact example the professor gave was England. He said that there was a child that was murdered and it was blamed on the Jews by the gov, just after the gov told them they weren't going to pay them back the several million owed them.
Now I personally haven't done any research beyond what was covered in that class on this subject, so please double check everything, but that was what I got from one of my professors. Still it's food for thought.
Damage Control: The Movie.
Nobody believes this BS
The comments on this video prove how important a film like this is.
I agree but I wish they had found another figure. I’m sorry but she’s A hypocrite. What she (Dr. Lipstadt) said in the trailer about Holocaust denial is 100% on the money, however she denies what goes on in the West Bank. And I don’t think it’s wise for us to be celebrating a person who stands up to one form of racism only to practice it with another demographic.
Liberalism find a cure!
You look like a clown, people like you have been tricked to dress like clowns nowadays in order to ridicule you.
Yeah right, like THIS stupid movie is really going to influence peoples views. LMAO!
WHO's "comments" are you referring to numbskull? Because I'm finding about as many in this comments log that seem to express AGREEMENT with THIS MOVIE as the OPOSITE.
I was wondering "where is the usual annual holo movie?". So here it is. I guess how much "they" have earned with suing the authorities and people, and with the continuous and endless movies, books, donations etc. since 1945...
I love it when thirty seconds googling prove someone wrong.
No. 10: “Anonyma - Eine Frau in Berlin,” 2008, directed by Max Ferberboch. This film with both German and Russian actors focused on “one of the most scandalous themes of World War II: the raping of German women by Soviet soldiers.”
No. 9: “Haytarma,” 2012, directed by Akhtem Seytablayev. “One of the best Ukrainian films of recent years,” according to Rufabula.com, “it tells the story of the deportation of the Crimean Tatars in 1944.” It has received numerous awards but was banned by the Kremlin from being shown at film festivals in Russia.
No. 8: “Maidan,” 2014, directed by Sergey Loznitsa. This documentary film, which shows that the Kremlin’s claims about what the Ukrainian Revolution of Dignity was about are nonsense, has “practically no chance” to be shown in Russia anytime soon.
No. 7: “Purge” (“Puhdistus”), 2012, directed by Antti Iokinen. A film based on the novel of Finnish writer Sofi Oksanen about two Estonian families who suffered under the Soviet occupation, it has already won numerous international prizes but can’t be shown in Russia.
No. 6: “Walking too fast” (“Pouta”), 2009. Directed by Radim Spacek. Named the Best Czech Film of 2009, it tells the story of a Czechoslovak KGB officer who like “You Know Who” triumphs over everyone but can’t find a place for himself in the system.
No. 5: “Tangerines” (“Mandariinid“), 2013, directed by Zaza Urushadze. A nominee for the Oscar as best foreign film, this movie can’t be shown in Russia because it attempt to present an honest retelling of what happened in the Georgian-Abakhaz war of 1992, something that doesn’t fit the politically correct matrix of Moscow today.
No. 4: “Dead Snow 2: Red vs. Dead” (“Død snø 2”) 2014, directed by Tommy Wirkola. A Norwegian-Icelandic horror comedy, it tells the story of east-west clashes featuring zombies and makes fun of some of the pretensions of certain rulers in power now.
No. 3: “Warsaw ’44” (“Miasto 44”), 2014, directed by Jan Komasa. A Polish film about the Warsaw Uprising, this film offends some Russian sensibilities by pointing out that the Red Army stood at the gates of the Polish capital long enough for the Germans to destroy most of the Poles who rose in revolt against Nazi rule.
No. 2: “Crosswind” (“Risttuules”), 2014, directed by Martti Held. A film which has won prizes throughout Europe, this movie tells the story of the deportation of Estonians in June 1941, a few days before the Nazi invasion.
No. 1: “Rose” (“Roza”), 2011, directed by Wojciech Smarzowski. The film tells the story of the Mazurs, a people caught in the lake region between Russian-Soviet and Polish-Soviet “fires” after the end of World War II. It won the award for the best Polish film of 2012.
Bob Metcalfe okay now go count the number of Hollywood movies about Holocaust and about communist or other cruelties which were played in cinemas and the number of articles as well. To be honest never heard about the movies you listed but heard about dozens of Holocaust movies because of the hype. You can check how many people were reached by the movies you listed.
A gazillion bucks pal.
Except it was David Irving who did the suing. Clearly showing signs of poor comprehension skills, a common trait among Deniers.
Livid You are deluded as hell 😆
Could some of the holocaust deniers out there please explain why none of the many people, including Eichmann, convicted of holocaust offences didn't use the "it didn't happen" defense?
And could some of these deniers please explain just how this alleged hoax was pulled off?
I don’t think they can explain because the comment will be deleted. In many countries, it is literally illegal.
Obviously never had your balls hooked up to a battery at Guantomino
Eichmann and other hierarchy denied it by making it sound ridiculous. They couldn't outright deny as they were being tortured. So they contradict themselves and make hugely exaggerated statements in their descriptions of what happened. Eichmann for example claimed to have made a delapitated barn airtight and into a hermatically sealed chamber in the course of a few hours. It's impossible
It would be against the law, do your own research.
Where're my Holodomor movies and documentaries? That was a pretty awful event that happened as well, but I rarely hear about it. Famine and cannibalizing children and corpses sounds horrible.
Please see here: watch?v=1FDgiVgW4iI
it's insane the amount of people who've NEVER heard of the Holodomor. My own history teachers hadn't heard of it until I did my own research. There was a movie I think but it didn't get much notoriety. It needs more recognition.
Because the communist won't allow it to happen, if you try, they will call you fascist.
There is a great film about it called MrJones
This movie is like a flame war over a shitpost. I could have sworn I've seen this exact argument about the holocaust on tumblr. But this movie looks good.
You don't know of David Irving?
Wow it really makes you think huh?
Into the Trash it goes....
DROPPED
Racism and Holocaust Denial seems to go hand in hand and are both vile and disgusting trends. It is enough to read some of the comments here and see how true this statement is ... In most cases open and liberal democracies have a problem defending themselves from this poison.
It is nice to see that for once one of this poison spreader got what he deserved and the funny thing is he has only himself to blame , as he would for sure would have been able to walk away with it ,had he not been stupid enough to corner himself by suing , putting himself on stage where he and his absurd claims where crushed. Good show !
~
WEW lad you're right the holycost did happen, I'm using the last of the holycost ash on my allotment this Summer, last year you should have seen the bumper crop of carrots I grew due to that lovely stuff, thanks Hitler!
+Deutschland402 That must be why all historians(pretty much) disagree with you and there is a overwhelming amount of evidence and testimonies from Soldiers(British, Russian, German Nazis) and Americans! Yup! Not to mention the survivors! Yup all were lying, and even this court case, Irving ended up losing due to the massive amount of evidence against him. Yup, obviously we are the wrong ones. You guys are totally in the right, that's why you look like complete morons. Because you guys are just so right! Good job! *Pats head*
Keep Whiteknighting for muh Israhell and jews boys, throws shekels to the shills.
To learn who rules above you, find out who you cannot criticize.
it's those babies with leukemia. I can't say anything on youtube. Meet me behind the burger king.
@@jugnuchacha4893 or just check congress' latest bill...
You know David Irving actually came up in my MA history class. The problem wasn't that he had the wrong opinion, which is what this movie seems to say., It was that he falsified evidence and sources in his work, which is a big no in academic history. A fellow colleague of Irving (who admired him very much) was asked to go through the sourced in Irving's work and investigate them all and he found that they were falsified. I don't care what your opinions are but if you make a claim in academic work, you cannot falsify sources.
What sources did he falsify?
Exactly. If you’re whacky enough to deny an event that affected several millions of people, both victims and soldiers who saw the horrors themselves during the liberation, you have to do better than millions of testimonies, photos, videos, chemical manufacturers documents, etc. I could go on and on. What a sad, loony, loony man
After watching this I know David Irving has had a significant impact, to the point where they have to make movies finally(but indirectly) addressing what he says. Props to him.
@Alex Munro Irving was the one who brought the case, you idiot! He was trying to silence her, not the other way around.
@@ZukoHalliwell haha yeah sure he was.
@@leighjordine4031 Okay, now you're just trolling. You can't be that stupid.
@@ZukoHalliwell So you're saying that these rich Jews that financed Lipstadt in this kangoroo court of a mockery were not trying to silence and denigrade Irving - a well known Holocaust historian in every applicable community -, BUT it was the other way around JUST BECAUSE he brought the case to Lipstadt's doorstep? Much logic, very fail.
@@FackThePresent There are plenty of Holocaust historians out there, Irving is not one of them.
"true story"
itz realzies in muh mind!
A recent studies show that i can make you believe anything as long as i put "recent studies show" - NLBC, BBC, CNN, MSN
Lol like that documentary? "Everything you are about to see is true...and it really happened...in real life...we promise...and swear upon your people."
For the record guys, 'human soap' WAS NOT developed at Auschwitz but at natzweiler. Then again, the majority probably don't even know natzweiler existed...
At a lecture in Atlanta Lipstadt began denouncing Irving for his “twisted views”, Irving travelled to Atlanta to attend one of her lectures. He surprised her by standing up at the back of the hall and announcing “I am David Irving.” Lipstadt had just had the temerity to tell her gullible students that she possessed a blueprint of the gas chambers showing holes in the roof for fumes to pass through. Irving had pulled out a thousand dollars and challenged Lipstadt to show her students the blueprint. “I’ll give this to you straight away if you can show this blueprint to them,” he said, waving the thousand dollars.
Lipstadt was mortified. She was unable to produce the non-existent blueprint. Nor has she ever been able to do that, given that no such blueprint existed. And yet she had been quite prepared to lie to her students about this.
“Lipstadt did not meet this very public challenge,”. Ultimately, she had her revenge in the High Court.”best one money can buy i'm sure ,most who have had entanglements in the high courts whose logo is a kangaroo know that for the most part the Grammarians wear the kippah as part of their legal attire .
She had her revenge in court? Yes Lipstadt, on the advice of her solicitors, had refused to be cross-examined by Irving in court. She had read none of the original documents in German for the simple reason that her knowledge of German was so minimal as to be virtually non-existent. If she had faced Irving in court, he would have torn her reputation to shreds in two minutes.talk about a rigged court which many are depending on who you are up against and for what .I'm sure if David Irving had been allowed by the chosen ones to cross examine Lipstadt we would not be now entertained by more Hollywood lies as we see here .
It would be nice of you if you have put link to your quote : www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=144271 (starting from 23rd paragraph)
In Irving's own words: “As my father said, ‘British justice is the best that money can buy’,”he sneered, recalling how he defended himself against high-powered lawyers funded by what he said were ‘Jewish film moguls’."
Look at that profound words from the most erudite of beings.
@XZDrake “It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.”
The only thing you can't get scientific about, lol.
***** Wasn't his sample from Krem II also taken off camera with accompanying prompting from his team?
+Michael Johns Please tell me why questioning this one historical event is the ONLY event in the world that will have you thrown in prison for questioning the official narrative?? Why threaten inquisitive people with force if there is no shadow of a doubt all this really happened? Ask yourself that.
***** I'm sure you're only asking for rhetorical reasons and have, in fact, had your question answered many times, but once more:
Holocaust denial is prosecuted in countries that have hate laws in their legislations. These hate laws are broad and cover egregious attacks on different minorities and religious groups. Naturally Holocaust denial is considered a direct attack on something central to Jewish history, hence it's inclusion in the hate laws.
Again: These hate laws are not specific to Holocaust denial, and Holocaust denial is only prosecuted in countries that have these hate laws in place, comprende?
Next!
Your very welcome to discuss historical events! No ones stopping you. Holocaust scholars debate and disagree on many parts of the Holocaust all the time. The difference, and it's very apparent if you read there output closely, is that deniers have zero interest in the Holocaust as an historical event they merely use it as leverage in an ongoing political assault on Jews/Israel.
That's a libel trial you're referring to, jackass.
I'm foreseeing this will backfire and only make more people interested in researching and forming their own opinions.
It backfired on David Irving anyway.
@@Goodiesfanful I don't think THAT is what he or she was referring to there.
Well, MOST people DON'T undertake their OWN PERSONAL research of things, especially something like THIS. Mainly because MOST people are either too indolent, or they can't afford to. It takes a lot of legwork and money. It is not a simple endeavor.
@@afrobane12 I don't rem ppl denying the holocausts since then, like in Rwanda. If it didn't happen once then it didn't happen multiple times did it? So why aren't these deniers after every holocaust that's occurred since then? Any answers would frame the same question.
"What you can't do is lie and expect not to be accountable for it."
Well I should hope not! Imagine, decades of promoting lies and falsehoods as history - I wonder what kind of accountability is in store for those who would do such a thing?
It won't be pretty. That's for damn sure.
Michael Johns
You're so rustled and so scared. It's hilarious to watch.
Torgrim Slayer Shakin' in me boots!
Ropes? Those went out of style a century ago. Bullets would probably be the most efficient means, but something tells me we'll opt for converting prison shower rooms into gas chambers. That's how that works, right?
Well, so I guess all that part of my family that became ashes in Auschwitz must be in some Oceanic island laughing about it. Guys, get help.
Rachel Weisz is awesome, another Oscar??? Maybe.
hope so !!
no, it is not possible! a movie about Jews and the Oskar? It can not be my friend ^^
So, a movie about not falsifying the truth falsifies the statements and sheer amount of academic work put forth by Mr. Irving? Thanks, Jews!
Michael Johns That sure justifies the imprisonment of people for having the wrong opinions.
Michael Johns I'm sensing that you're a troll, but I'll bite. The Japanese killed about 20 million in Manchuria many of which civilians and the Diet thoroughly denies these war crimes. The US killed 2 million people (read: civilians) in the firebombings and the atomic bombings in Japan even though they had already issued a complete surrender, yet no one in the US is being imprisoned for denying these atrocious crimes. Communism is responsible for 100 million deaths worldwide, Soviet Russia alone persecuted and executed about 40 million Christians, yet they are not punishing their children for it in the History classes. The fratricidal WWII reaped almost 60 lives (Jews included), so why are the Jews the only victims of this evil war? So even if the 6 million figure is real (it is not), why should I care? Because it offends the feelings of our Zionist overlords? Bugger off.
"Zionist overlords"?!!! Nurse!!!
Michael Johns Not an argument.
hate speech is free speech, unless you live in yuropoorland and have no freedoms
If you want to find out who rules you, find out who you're not allowed to criticize
Oh yeah you got it
He lost the case because it was shown that he tergiversated the data to suit his ideas and interests and the judge ruled that he deliberately lied for his convenience.
I was gassed three times that I can remember. I only survived because I could hold my breath for 20 minutes at a time. Then I played dead when the guards cleaned out the bodies. They caught me two times but on the third time, I managed to run off into the woods where I lived for several years with no food or water.
It was the Martians from Area 51 who found me, and dropped me off on Fifth Avenue where I started a jewelry store and became a millionaire in three years. I can remember all this very well. It was like a miracle.
"Some events do take place but are not true; others are-although they never occurred."
-Elie Wiesel
Among the (many) humorous aspects of this film and its directorial blocking is the way in which Deborah E. Lipstadt -- possibly the least attractive woman on Earth -- is portrayed by the comely (and much younger) Rachel Weisz, whereas Irving (who was actually quite a handsome man in his prime) is portrayed by a slack-jowled old character actor who looks like he just stumbled in off the Cato Institute's board of directors (lol).
Subtlety isn't one of Hollywood's strong suits, apparently.
They went with talent.
When will the film about Israel using white phosphorous on Palestinian children be released?
The actor portraying David Irwin was absolutely brilliant.
Timothy Spall was also really good in the movie about the vault raid (can't remember the name now! 🤦♂️)
At this point they should retool the Oscars into a mail-order format where if you send the Academy a cheque for 50 million dollars from an address in Israel they'll just ship one out to you. I mean why not?
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b-but it was real in their mind!
The truth fears no investigation
Christ, that's original. Bet it took you all week to think of that one, didn't it?
Nice try alt rightest
Mortiarty is alive!?!?
Has a non evil twin duh
secretly working with Pettigrew
Hey Black lives matter watch this!!! You could learn a thing or two from the masters and originators of the grievance industry.
Another western propaganda movie 😛
aren't they all?
Jew must be new here.
Min Owall Propaganda? More like the truth. You are too blind and deaf to realise it...
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Truth is hate speech for those who hate the truth.
J S or it’s just hate speech dumbass grow up
I had a relative in the force labor camps working for the air industry.
He never recalled any of this holocaust thing even after the war.
The only time he spoke of this he refer to it as the "post war denazification campaign".
Also he recalled that by late war food shortages where common since the allies bombed the communication lines and the camps where on the country side, also the rampant typhus and tuberculosis epidemics.
My great grandmother testified that Japanese soldiers had treated the citizens and locals humanely and were even welcomed. The truth will get out.
why use an attractive actress to portray Mrs. lipstadt and an ugly actor to portray David Irving? i think they are pulling out all the tricks here. Davids life was ruined for his opinions not the other way around
David ruined his own life
Who knew a movie trailer about denying the holocaust would attract so many anti-semites and holocaust deniers.
yeah utube is the home for this idiots. I'm guessing if they tried to express their racist opinions in real life. They would most likely be fired from their job and ostrized by their peers. I dont think many work places tolerate racism.
So here were no one knows u they can rage. Bunch of losers.
+Imperial D Yep! .. . renowned professional historian and author David Irving is SOME "idiot" and "loser" alright! .. . oh, and for THAT matter, so were Mark Twain and Henry Ford!
Ian Finlay sorry it was my bad. I should have said "these" idiots. not this "idiot." As in the people who climb out of the ooze to comment online. Hidden behind the net. Where if they expressed their racist rants in society. They most likely be fired from their jobs and most likely living on the street.
While I don't agree with David Irving. I don't think he's an idiot. Just a racist. In fact I think he's quite smart.
Yes, and simply questioning historical perspectives or accounts should get you fired/ostrasized? There are two sides to every story, except this one. If you dare to challenge that, you're a racist. You silly confused fucks.
he took her to court. She didn't take him. He did it to himself. And the courts proved he was everything he she said he was.
something tells me this is going to backfire beautifully
Here from the future - it didn't backfire lol
@PBB he should sue then :)
@Edward Anthony no its not lmao
@Tangent of Circle How did it backfire?
This comment section is cancer.
How? From the believers or deniers?
deniers.
You really think free speech is the cancer and want to silence any comment you dislike. That's why the failing newspapers are ending any hostile comments on the articles by moderating them out of existence.
nsmx1 unfortunately you won't get your answer
I say the VIDEO^ is what's cancer - the COMENTS in response to it are anti-bodies attacking it.
"If we have the truth, it cannot be hurt by investigation. If we have not the truth, it ought to be harmed."
Making David Irving out to be a mustache twirling villan...
*slow clap
Have they bothered to read his books?
Yes, and his work served as the bulk of their evidence against him. He revised his older books to remove references to the Holocaust, and he failed spectacularly on cross examination
This made a pathetic 4 million at the box office...no one is falling for their bullshit anymore!
Hollywood insists it made at least 6 million though.
It’s just a movie bro.
I could've ended this debate in the first 3 seconds of it. "No need for the rest of this movie, we've got the diary"
A diary.
I presume you're not referring to Anne Frank, are you?
I presume the ones which corroborate the official archives' entries are ones that are considered infinitely more reliable than that controversial one??
>when a historic event is so true, you get imprisoned if you doubt it.
The moon is round.
NO, IT ISN'T. I say it's square. That's the truth. You go to jail.
But it was David Irving that sued Deborah Lipstadt, not the other way around
Who was imprisoned here? This was a civil action. It was about Deborah Lipstadt's right to call David Irving a 'liar'. If anything, this case is pro-free speech/pro-freedom.
@@LukeLovesRosepeople have a right to call you out on your manure
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I've not seen you convert a single person on this thread. To become a Holocaust denier one must first *be* an anti-Semite.
What?
in my case I found myself wondering,
just exactly why DO I believe this?
I then made a decision to look at what the "deniers" were on about,
and set out to examine the evidence for myself for the first time in my life,
put simply,I discovered that there is no credible concrete evidence
to be found for the means, the plan, nothing.
it's all "eyewitness" and hearsay, a house of cards,
one odd thing caught my attention very early on
the demon mengele seemed to be not so much the doctor of death but rather a kind of lucky charm to life as every other survivor claimed to have met him!
he even, for some uncountable reason removed one survivors tattoo
just after she narrowly escaped being skinned for a lampshade
can't remember if that was before she was pushed miraculously backwards OUT of the gas chamber or before
any way she managed to escape in the end when someone threw her over a 10 metre barbed wire fence onto a passing train!
and if you think that is non sense then take it up with Mr Spielberg
as he put her in his film,which I thought rather desperate if that was the best he could get....
yeah!! sure, you have to be an antisemite first..........ha!
no wonder Rampton didn't put dare put lipstad in the witness box,
far too much at stake,
Irving would have wiped the court floor with her.
Why are the testimonies of survivors and the confessions of high ranking SS not credible?
Michael Johns Because these things can easily be lied about.
"Directed by Scholmo Goldsteinawitz"
I don't know what Lipstadt actually said during the course of these events (or the trial), but if it was anything like the trailer then it speaks volumes. If there's mountains of evidence for the holocaust, then why are you afraid of debate? Why wouldn't you relish in the opportunity to intellectually tear holocaust deniers a new asshole? But no, instead she'll just dismiss the opposition or mock them. Typical.
Because there was no use in debating a fact.
Would you debate someone who said the sun isn't real? Even if you had heaps of evidence that it was? Probably not.
She wasn't against speech, she was against anybody who wanted to abuse it for lies and agenda.
“If the earth is round, why won’t you debate me about it?!!! This proves the earth is flat!!!!”
'to learn who rules over you, simply ask who you are not allowed to criticize.'
Did people say "lawyered up" in 1994?
I really doubt it.
1994 was only 22 years ago. You make it sound like the Edwardian era.
Are you for real? That's only 22 years ago! They were saying that in the 50's! How old are you? Funny.
no
That term is used only in the U.S. The suit in question was held in the U.K.
I wouldn't be surprised if Shecklewood doesn't make a movie based on why this trailer has half dislikes.
😂
Reminder that Zundel's claims still have not been refuted.
His claims were never even taken seriously. Rightfully so.
I stand with David Irving.
Dom King stop being hateful
Then you stand with a liar and a racist
5Mariner well I'm very aware that not all jews are like that and there are horrible people in every race, but at least it's the elite Zionist Jews that feel this way about Gentiles, and no I'm not a racist, I'm actually against all of that white supremacy bull crap that groups like the alt right do, I personally believe that we can all be saved by God no matter what color you are
>The alt right are white supremacists.
You drank the MSM kool-aid, very sad to see.
Truth doesn't fear investigation
The presumption of innocence is for criminal proceedings, but it's true that the burden of proof should be on the dude
+patrick82895 well that's not how the juridical syllogism works. the claimant, the man, accuses her of fallacy and whatnot. it's his burden to prove how she is committing fabulisn or whatever.
+Joe McGowan but isnt the man the one suing? he needs to back up hes alleguating, then the onus will pass onto her
+patrick82895 no he's the claimant, tort law doesn't put the burden of proof on the defendant
lol but he's saying it didn't happen, don't we need some proof that it happened, like maybe an autopsy of a single one of the 60000000 which shows gassing as cause of death?
she is slandering him and he asks for her proof, so no the burden is on her
She should have debated David Irving.
Would you debate someone who said that COVID isn't real?
@@ZukoHalliwell People debate flat earthers and crush their silly arguments. Back when "new" Atheism was a thing those Atheists debated young Earth creationists (some do that even today). Let all weak ideas and stupid delusions perish.
@@Baalur Prof. Lipstadt said in her book that debating someone, even someone with such silly arguments, would give some validity to their argument. That's why she refuses to debate Holocaust deniers.
That being said, I think she would be willing to participate in a debate about whether or not Holocaust denial should be illegal.
@@BaalurI'm a believer in flat Earth but I'm not going to inhibit their ability to call my claims into question.
They should be entitled to do so, otherwise (genuinely) uninformed people may not learn.
Vice versa as well.
David Irving’s works are a gift to planet earth. Deborah Lipstadt made a lot of money off of human suffering. The two are different in every way.
"based on a true story"
like their lies, they hold no bearing to present evidence's, only to description are they limited.
The answer to 1984 is 1933.
BASED
"Whatever the reason that people become deniers, they often have an agenda which they won't admit to!"
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
The truth is : Whatever the reason that people want to believe in the Holocaust, they often have an agenda which they won't admit to.
Well said sir
The truth of the point of the deniers. Is that they want the truth to be told.
@@leighjordine4031 No they don’t they want the truth but they don’t visit the camps don’t talk to survivors or look at the records.
A good historian looks at the facts and comes to a conclusion but people like Irvin and other deniers come to a conclusion and then look at the facts that prove there point.
I mean the soviets and Patton both were anti - semetic say it happened and liberated camps and wrote reports.
@@rupertsmith5815 Man’s never met a denier, I see. Plenty of people have become deniers because of visiting these “death camps.”
The courage of Deborah. Thank god for her.
She was a joke. The judge even stated (judgement) that had Irving not sued about the holocaust, he would have won the case. She made tons of spurious claims against him with no proof what so ever. EDIT: Oh, and that first scene in which Irving challenges her, actually went down like this: She stated she had blue prints of the gas chambers....he asked her to produce them.
How is she courageous when she says I hat almost everyone believes? Lolzz
@@Maksym1977 She was sued and attacked by Irving repeatedly
Zionists are cowards. Every single one, child.
1400 dislikes OY VEY ITS ANUDDAH SHOAH
dislike a movie that you did not see. This have nothing to do with white supremacy/ racists / neo naziz groups likey to be exposed in the film as the jerks they are ?
So has Hollywood ever made a film about the Holodomor?
Yes, it is called Mr.Jones
Ok but why the actress looks more attractive than she was in reality.
We know why. Also that's the worst propaganda I've ever seen from a trailer.
Also, David was actually a good looking man in reality. They made him look like a deranged psychopath in this film.
@@brazwen I wonder why they did that. Hmmm....
@@brazwen Maybe because he *is* a deranged psychopath.
whats the harm in criticizing and investigating whether something actually happened anyway? the truth would always come out on top under all our scrutiny and wed figure out that it did happen, right?
The sad thing is there’s idiots who’ll believe it no matter how hard you disprove it and show them the truth. That’s why deniers shouldn’t have a platform whatsoever. They already have it in their head it didn’t happen and there’s no changing that. We simply must silence them as there’s no way to show them or help them understand the truth, as they simply don’t want to know it. To them it will always be untrue/fake
@@1212Natowhy denying holocaust is illegal in some countries. If truth is self evident then why there are laws to protect it. Looks like a big conspiracy to me.
There isn't a problem with that, the problem is if you manipulate your sources in order to fulfill your narrative which is what Irving did in real life.
Just curious. If you believe there were no gas chambers, but do believe everything else about the Holocaust, does that person theoretically believe "the Holocaust didn't happen"? And if so does that mean that the only aspect about the Holocaust that matters are the gas chambers?
One telling line from the trailer is: "We know what it is, it's how we prove what it is." Until you have proof, the knowledge is low grade and open to challenge - and if your only question is "how we prove it" you are not starting off with an open mind and that it liable to bias your conclusions.
hmmmm
These comments are literally anudda Shoah
So its a movie about a woman who is in denial? sweet!
+Mr Madao I try
I thought it was about a river in Egypt?
Yep.
No, it is about David Irving who denies that the Holocaust ever happened, suing Deborah Lipstadt for calling him a liar.
He's in denial. She's with the facts.
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oh, usa... you're so polarised... divide et impera at its best!
ahaha
I heard a survivor of Auschwitz speak at my school last week. This old woman didn't sound like she was lying. Especially when she teared up at the part where she describes how her sister was torn away from her, never to be seen again.
What does a "lying" person sound like (or look like, or act like, or whatever)???
Evil always manifests itself somehow, whether it be by the way someone sounds when they talk, how their face looks, what they smell like, how they conduct themselves - all manner of clues that can indicate that something isn't _quite_ right.
This is even working on the assumption that this woman was even present at the vicinity to begin with - she could just be a paid propagator.
Tell me, when this woman was there influencing you and/or any of your classmates, what did you feel empowered to be able to ask, to establish that she wasn't... lying???
If I'd lost a relative under similar circumstances, the LAST thing on Earth I would do, is go around, dredging it all up, over and over again.
I trust you wouldn't either.
@@letsdiscussitoversometea8479 They talk about this horrifying chapter of their lives because the younger generation needs to know what happened. And won't turn out like you.
@@letsdiscussitoversometea8479 The good thing is we don’t have to go by this story. It’s undeniable history. Only a idiotic monster would sit there and deny it happened. And here you are, trying so desperately to sound intelligent and failing miserably. I guess it’s easy hiding behind a screen doing so anonymously. I guess let’s “hope” this is just the ramblings of an insecure teenager trying to be edgy.
First Imperium, now this- the Skypes aren't even trying to be subtle anymore. Take heart, lads, we've got them running scared! The day of liberation is at hand!
I agree, Holodomor denial is a serious problem...
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It's scary. The people know the truth.
These Hollywood movies and sad Jeiwsh violins are the truth.
Yes, because we can believe anything Hollywood movies tell us about history ...
OY VEY IRVING KNOWS! SHUT IT DOWN!
“To historians is granted a talent that even the gods are denied, to change what has already happened” - Best WW2 Historian in the world
David Irving is an honest man!!
"History is written by the victors"
Thus can history be subject to distortion of the truth.
Yes , but you are forgetting that German generals were allowed to write biographies of ww2 without being read by the allies and a lot glorified the third reich and The U.S lost the Vietnam war but where did you learn it from?
And you can go see the camps and talk to survivors of the Holocaust
@@rupertsmith5815
These biographies totally weren’t forged like Anne Frank’s
Looks like the cats firmly out of the bag !
The BBC doing what it does best.
Do people really think it's OK for it to be ILLEGAL to question historical events?
It isn't. You are talking bollocks.
@Vasyanka So, starting with the most obvious place (Germany), quote the law verbatim banning the 'questioning' of historical events, please. That will then prove you correct - or you stupid.
@Vasyanka You can't then. Glad we got that sorted.
@Vasyanka That's a coward's answer, sunshine. If you can't support your own claims, then what does that say about them? And the fact that you think denial laws ban questioning history is proof positive that you haven't done any research whatsoever.
@Vasyanka You're very good at blaming other people for your own inability to support your arguments, mate. When you produce some actual evidence that Europe has laws that prohibit 'questioning' history, I'll take you seriously. At the moment you have an opinion and nothing else; an opinion based on zero knowledge of the facts - as anyone familiar with European denial law will tell you categorically.
This comment section is just a bit concerning
Gás chambers are bs
@@nunomartins2209 they are not
The truth is concerning for criminals
@@LukeLovesRosethen why do you and Irving deny it?
Never forget, must we always remind you.
You guys seem to think so.
I lost faith in this world after reading comments.. So much hate...
There is someone behind this screen you know... Someone you're mocking.... insulting... hurting...
I don't care who is the hate traget..
Shame on you.
did you know lipstadt refused to be cross examined in court she never took the stand.why not take the stand and show him up . should be easy!
Her lawyer Richard Rampton Q.C took the decision not to put her on the stand, not Lipstadt herself.
cor blimey! what a gent!
Lipstadt didn't have to appear, idiot. The alleged libel was committed in three sentences she could hardly deny she'd written. But I take your point: Irving went in and tried to disprove the libellous claim he was a Holocaust denier....by arguing there was no Holocaust!
perverting history is no joke and the truth always comes out , the truth refuses to be buried no matter what.
God always reveals the truth, and it is finally slipping through
Where is truth for Palestinians and worlds Indigenous peoples? Or is truth only for certain peoples?
@make a wish Watch Potential History's video on how history is not written by the victors.
@@oceanbreeze6812 Indigenous peoples? You mean the indigenous people of Europe?