Teacher Supports Then Dates Former Inmate Who Stabbed His Lover | Matthew Terry Case Analysis

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Комментарии • 715

  • @cybermandan1960
    @cybermandan1960 8 месяцев назад +482

    You know it's bad when Dr. Grande moves to the timeline of the FIRST crime 😂

    • @MatthewMS.
      @MatthewMS. 8 месяцев назад +10

      literal lol, read that just about when he said it in real time for me 😆

    • @MatthewMS.
      @MatthewMS. 8 месяцев назад +7

      (Not that the crimes are any less horrific… you are a fan, you get it, I digress).

    • @niax782
      @niax782 8 месяцев назад +3

      This ‼️😂

    • @edgybarbie77
      @edgybarbie77 8 месяцев назад +4

      💯😂

    • @user-hm4jm1cy7m
      @user-hm4jm1cy7m 8 месяцев назад +4

      kinda obvious its worse if there are two crimes.

  • @antheairenedevilliers1657
    @antheairenedevilliers1657 8 месяцев назад +494

    It's an old story. Woman falls in love with violent man who has history of hurting women but she thinks it won't happen to HER!!!

    • @troy3456789
      @troy3456789 8 месяцев назад

      Different women are sometimes strangely attracted to violent men. They of course do not get to choose what turns them on. They can witness the fact that "bad boys" turn them on if they are paying attention. These kinds of women steam roll or totally ignore nice guys. It is what it is.

    • @esteemedmortal5917
      @esteemedmortal5917 8 месяцев назад +42

      Damn close to a Darwin Award. Trust behavior patterns, not what you see in front of you at the moment

    • @mykidsaresupercute
      @mykidsaresupercute 8 месяцев назад +32

      They always think they can change them.

    • @srsusansummers3070
      @srsusansummers3070 8 месяцев назад

      So many women are delusional

    • @jocelynastheart2732
      @jocelynastheart2732 8 месяцев назад

      those are call pathetic lonely women!

  • @ntlkrr
    @ntlkrr 8 месяцев назад +272

    This is a prime example of why trying to save grown men never works.

    • @aliciagriggs8531
      @aliciagriggs8531 8 месяцев назад +12

      True. People don't change. They only hide their real self for so long.

    • @grantwilliams2650
      @grantwilliams2650 8 месяцев назад +9

      I think it’s an example of why trying to save violent criminals doesn’t work. When people say “I can fix him” (or her) they’re usually not talking about convicted felons lmao

    • @Noeditbutton
      @Noeditbutton 8 месяцев назад +5

      So true once the foundation has been washed out from underneath there is nothing you can do

    • @StoneCoolds
      @StoneCoolds 7 месяцев назад

      Is not the women fault, they are genetically wire to love those kind of men, google has done a study on that behavior, in fact multiple studies have shown women are wire to like violent abusive selfish men, so she was just following her natural programming, just like men are just horny simps that will jump out of a bridge to get sex, its just genetics
      The fault is on the DA and judges that release him from jail, on beliefs that an apology and a smile is enough, "everyone makes small mistakes like beheading people" mentality is the problem

    • @scottdavidson526
      @scottdavidson526 7 месяцев назад +4

      I don't believe there was any saving this guy.

  • @evelynwaugh4053
    @evelynwaugh4053 8 месяцев назад +407

    Really shocking that stabbing someone 7 times (once in the throat) would result in a sentence of 3 to 10 years with a parole after only 3 years.

    • @lisalynch629
      @lisalynch629 8 месяцев назад

      But if u protest a stolen election;solitary confinement forever

    • @JuMow_
      @JuMow_ 8 месяцев назад +13

      In germany that's about the max. sentence you'd get from doing that.

    • @KimberlyLetsGo
      @KimberlyLetsGo 8 месяцев назад +30

      I see court cases here on YT where someone gets a DUI with no one hurt and they get longer sentences than this. WTH!!!

    • @chunkyMunky329
      @chunkyMunky329 8 месяцев назад +1

      If he was a Clinton he wouldn't have done any time at all

    • @israeliteking1947
      @israeliteking1947 8 месяцев назад

      white boy privilege that's all 😂

  • @Tina06019
    @Tina06019 8 месяцев назад +316

    My Lord - he stabbed her multiple times and was only sentenced to 3 years? That makes no sense whatsoever.

    • @troy3456789
      @troy3456789 8 месяцев назад

      His actions are exactly what prisons and capital punishment were designed for. Prisons are not built to punish anyone (as this makes no sense), nor are they built to rehab anyone. They were made to sequester dangerous people from peaceful, but vulnerable society. This justice system has been failing at doing its job of protecting innocent society for a while now.

    • @kingdele01
      @kingdele01 8 месяцев назад +28

      The A&E documentary on this case seemed to indicate that he came from a wealthy well connected family and they used their influence to get him off easily.

    • @Meela234
      @Meela234 8 месяцев назад +9

      @@kingdele01 I wonder what his well-connected family thought when he did it again.

    • @micnorton9487
      @micnorton9487 8 месяцев назад +17

      ​@@kingdele01 Oh and he was white too... I don't believe he was completely lovey dovey while he wasn't drinking although I don't know the guy,, just that mean drunks usually have some predisposition to dominating or controlling behavior and rationalize it by claiming "I was drunk",, and while some dysfunctional drunks get verbally plaintive or obsessive,, this category is usually known as whiny drunks and not mean drunks... But THIS guy,, going for a knife, and then going for the neck....... I can see why the jury found him guilty of first-degree,, and also the claiming that she was eliminated by some shadowy burglar,, give me a break..... I would have sentenced him to life plus another hundred years for stupidity.......

    • @guygrip9634
      @guygrip9634 8 месяцев назад +2

      It MAKES SENSE THAT FED IS ALLSO EVIL KNOW HE WILL MURDER AGAIN. THERE SUB HUMAN IN NEGATIVE JOB. NOT HUMAN SUB HUMAN THERE NEGATIVE

  • @terrybeasley5931
    @terrybeasley5931 8 месяцев назад +195

    When people tell you(or SHOW you) who they really are, BELIEVE THEM.🤦🤦🤦

    • @Hatbox948
      @Hatbox948 8 месяцев назад +9

      Amen!

    • @Alice-ov3rd
      @Alice-ov3rd 8 месяцев назад +13

      Some women know this but have a disease called codependency. They get to know someone and think they can help them. Most of these women come from dysfunctional homes and sadly it becomes a cycle like alcoholism.

    • @Hatbox948
      @Hatbox948 8 месяцев назад +8

      @@Alice-ov3rd They also have a Cinderella complex thinking there will be that knight in shining armor some day.

    • @HeatherHolt
      @HeatherHolt 3 месяца назад

      One of the best quotes ever! When people show you who they are, believe them the first time.
      Maya Angelou knew what was up babes.

  • @kashigata
    @kashigata 8 месяцев назад +97

    Even if she had been dancing with another man, that is her prerogative. She was doomed one way or another due to Matthew’s personality and love of alcohol. If it hadn’t been the dancing, it would’ve been something equally minor. What a pathetic human being he is. 😢

    • @HeatherHolt
      @HeatherHolt 3 месяца назад +5

      Right eventually there would be something that would make him angry enough to hurt her plus he got such a slap on the wrist.
      Where were her friends and family to try and say Kay why are you dating someone who has offed someone already, where were the people to try and shake her into reality. But at the end of the day she knew what she was signing up for.

  • @Kat-tr2ig
    @Kat-tr2ig 8 месяцев назад +104

    "He attacked another woman with a knife, but that doesn't mean he'll attack me with a knife," -Kay, probably.
    People don't change. Don't give them a second chance, or you could end up dead in a second.

  • @DottieMinerva
    @DottieMinerva 8 месяцев назад +65

    Say it with me: ABUSERS DON’T CHANGE.

    • @HeatherHolt
      @HeatherHolt 3 месяца назад +1

      So true!! Never!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏

    • @SinisterScoundrel6562
      @SinisterScoundrel6562 2 месяца назад

      No but y'all stay with em anyway!😁

  • @Azulakayes
    @Azulakayes 8 месяцев назад +74

    I don't understand people who date people who have been convicted for serious crimes like assault...I am so scared of violent people that I can't even stand people who bang tables in anger yet Kay knew this man had stabbed someone 7 times and still dated him. It is truly baffling.

    • @snicole042
      @snicole042 8 месяцев назад

      We have an entire generation who ignores their instincts and logic because it might be “racist”.

    • @It-is-me...Melsie
      @It-is-me...Melsie 8 месяцев назад +4

      For some reason my reply disappeared. I'm assuming that despite it not being offensive or mean YT's fussy bots decided it had to go.
      Anyway, the crux of it was that I agree that how you are is healthy and normal.

    • @jeffrey501green
      @jeffrey501green 8 месяцев назад +4

      She, the same as alot of women thinks she can "change" him...

    • @scottdavidson526
      @scottdavidson526 7 месяцев назад +1

      I don't get it either. 14:31

  • @Cashhhhew
    @Cashhhhew 8 месяцев назад +169

    I’ll show this case to people that blame victims. I have no doubt the second woman thought it was the fault of the first woman, something she did wrong and that she herself would be “better” and therefore fine. Nope. Dudes just a psychopath and nothing you say or do will change that. As we see an extremely benign interaction caused him to become murderous.

    • @kingdele01
      @kingdele01 8 месяцев назад +29

      This is not a question of victim blaming. It is more like a woman who didn't have good judgement in mate selection.
      - Dr. Grande didn't cover the fact that she left her husband to be with this scumbag, possibly because she thought he was more romantic or that he was "the one"!
      - She also ignored all the warnings given her by the other victim.
      This is more of the excessive optimism and lack of willingness to face reality that's pervasive with many youngish people today.

    • @Cashhhhew
      @Cashhhhew 8 месяцев назад +16

      @@kingdele01 nah. She 100% had to think the first woman did something to cause him to act out that way. She believed she wouldn’t provoke him the way “she did” so she’d be safe. Her logic was flawed. But nobody would go into a relationship with someone like that thinking “yeah he might stab me one day, but he’s better than my hubby” lol.

    • @Cashhhhew
      @Cashhhhew 8 месяцев назад +24

      @@kingdele01 I’ve also known someone personally who dated a violent s*x offender while he was still in prison. Like started dating while he was still locked up. Her mindset was completely about how the victim “asked for it” it and that he was the real victim. He ended up almost murdering her when he was finally out. Their mindset is that the bad guys are actually good guys that were pushed too far.

    • @kingdele01
      @kingdele01 8 месяцев назад +9

      @@Cashhhhew I definitely didn't say she thought he could kill her. I think she is overly optimistic and thought the guy loved her too much to do such things to her.

    • @kingdele01
      @kingdele01 8 месяцев назад +11

      @@Cashhhhew
      Also the reason why I brought up her departure from her husband was because of many people leave reasonable committed relationships to pursue new relationships the following:
      - they easily get manipulated with lies and superficial charm
      - they also have been conditioned into thinking that there is someone out there, for them, called "The ONE" (or soulmates). And this "ONE" will always be handsome, tall, witty, funny, charming, romantic, successful, 100% responsive to their emotions, etc...
      Therefore, they leave their good marriages, that provide them certainty and stability, to go chase after a dream, which is just a passing vapor.

  • @ferdiecassel3697
    @ferdiecassel3697 8 месяцев назад +80

    Some people forfeit the right to breathe air. Matthew Terry is one of them. The justice system was an abysmal failure in these cases. Condolences to the bereaved.

  • @MsHburnett
    @MsHburnett 8 месяцев назад +112

    Never date a criminal

    • @skycloud4802
      @skycloud4802 8 месяцев назад +11

      Wise words to abide by.

    • @dancarlton7973
      @dancarlton7973 8 месяцев назад +20

      Avoid dating apps

    • @micnorton9487
      @micnorton9487 8 месяцев назад +15

      Oh Christ... HOW ABOUT,, never date an attempted murderer, how's that?

    • @OfficialFoodieBeauty
      @OfficialFoodieBeauty 8 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@micnorton9487attempted murderers are criminals. Just more safe. 🙃

    • @srsusansummers3070
      @srsusansummers3070 8 месяцев назад +4

      Very simple

  • @brihaver1951
    @brihaver1951 8 месяцев назад +46

    To want to be loved so badly that you put your entire life at risk is truly so unspeakably sad. TY, Dr Grande for an excellent commentary ❤

  • @spectraamunari9059
    @spectraamunari9059 8 месяцев назад +154

    This is a true warning to anyone dating someone with violent, jealous tendencies (especially those that amplify while drinking). Neither of these women thought it would ever really go this far.
    Watching this analysis makes me grateful that I broke up with a few certain someone’s back in my 20’s. Some people have extreme rage under the surface. You see it in their obsessions and the things they create in their mind. If you can’t make sense of someone’s thinking, trust that they are not living in this reality.

    • @deedsh6280
      @deedsh6280 8 месяцев назад +23

      Well stated. Signs are there. Observe and act. The life you save may be your own.

    • @nighttrain1236
      @nighttrain1236 8 месяцев назад +21

      Some women are drawn to men like this, sadly.

    • @TheScapegoat420
      @TheScapegoat420 8 месяцев назад +8

      Well said.

    • @tarstarkusz
      @tarstarkusz 8 месяцев назад +5

      I disagree completely. Most people who are jealous have a very justified reason.
      The real problem in this case is addiction and the violent tendencies of this guy when drinking. She should have known better than to take him out drinking while on parole for getting violent with a woman while drinking.

    • @poot-poot
      @poot-poot 8 месяцев назад +8

      @@tarstarkuszkinda wild to blame her and not the violent criminal but ok 😂

  • @Tyler_StClair
    @Tyler_StClair 8 месяцев назад +152

    I remember this case. That Kay girl vouched for this scumbag in court and claimed that he was a good man even after he tried to murder that woman. It’s hard to feel bad for her, she earned the Darwin Award.

    • @troy3456789
      @troy3456789 8 месяцев назад +14

      This new victim blaming mentality seems strange to me. I've seen it three times in the comment section now to include yours. I wonder how it is gaining popularity, since it doesn't withstand the slightest contact with common sense.

    • @michaelmur7691
      @michaelmur7691 8 месяцев назад +38

      I don't think victim blaming is new and the reason that it's a longstanding perspective is because of the contact with common sense. We all know people who seem to seek out dangerous people and situations, then when they're hurt, they're a victim. A victim we all saw heading down that path.

    • @troy3456789
      @troy3456789 8 месяцев назад +7

      @@michaelmur7691 I never said victim blaming is new. I said it seems to be gaining in popularity these days. I just wonder how since most people believe they are intelligent.

    • @creativechaosify
      @creativechaosify 8 месяцев назад +54

      @@troy3456789 On the contrary, victim blaming in cases like this is the epitome of common sense. If I see someone put their hand in a fire, and they get burned, then it is the height of idiocy to go put my hand in the same fire. Yes, how dare people point out that dating a violent stabber was not a smart idea!

    • @michaelmur7691
      @michaelmur7691 8 месяцев назад

      @@troy3456789 so true, we bow to your omniscience and endless compassion, truly you are a shining example to us all. Inexplicable things happen, there's no fault to be held by any, all that can be done is weep bitter tears of remorse and regret. 🥇 Here's your "person of the year" award.

  • @EmilyPucker
    @EmilyPucker 8 месяцев назад +128

    Kay made some risky choices and put herself in danger. It’s sad that people who commit these crimes are allowed to continue living amongst the rest of us.

    • @troy3456789
      @troy3456789 8 месяцев назад +1

      How is this different from blaming the victim?

    • @robertgiles9124
      @robertgiles9124 8 месяцев назад

      Sure, she had no part in her murder and ignoring his stabby behavior was not her fault at all. She's female! So she cannot be at fault even if she acted like a reckless fool with a Death Wish.@@troy3456789

    • @user-hm4jm1cy7m
      @user-hm4jm1cy7m 8 месяцев назад +26

      @@troy3456789 pointing out that someone has made idiotic choices is not victim blaming. ITs merely pointing out a fact. no one is saying she deserved it but Id say she practically asked for it.. she knew what hed done yet CHOSE to get involved with him.

    • @yahnservices1978
      @yahnservices1978 8 месяцев назад +7

      Darwin Award of the day.

    • @nanettevantriesteharder2469
      @nanettevantriesteharder2469 8 месяцев назад

      @@troy3456789 This is not an either-or situation.
      Here is what we now know about codependency. According to Wikipedia, "In psychology, codependency is a theory that attempts to explain imbalanced relationships where one person enables another person's self-destructive behavior such as addiction, poor mental health, immaturity, irresponsibility, or under-achievement. Definitions of codependency vary, but typically include high self-sacrifice, a focus on others' needs, suppression of one's own emotions, and attempts to control or fix other people's problems. People who self-identify as codependent exhibit low self-esteem, but it is unclear whether this is a cause or an effect of characteristics associated with codependency. Codependency is not limited to married, partnered, or romantic relationships, as co-workers, friends, and family members can be codependent as well."
      Here is what we now know about epigenetics, which according to Wikipedia is 'in biology, epigenetics are stable heritable traits that cannot be explained by changes in DNA sequence, and the study of a type of stable change in cell function (known as a mark) that does not involve a change to the DNA sequence. The Greek prefix epi- (ἐπι- "over, outside of, around") in epigenetics implies features that are "on top of" or "in addition to" the traditional (DNA sequence based) genetic mechanism of inheritance. Epigenetics usually involves a change that is not erased by cell division, and affects the regulation of gene expression. Such effects on cellular and physiological phenotypic traits may result from environmental factors, or be part of normal development. They can lead to cancer.'
      For instance, through exposure to high concentrations of neurotoxins, cognitive-emotional brain structure, function, and chemistry can be thrown off balance, such as when the anxiety hormone Cortisol, which mediates the freeze, flight, fight, and/or fawn response is elevated for a prolonged period of time through a deficiency of physiological, safety, love and belonging, and growth needs during critical growth periods of the human developmental life span from womb to tomb. Researchers in trauma-sensitive care are aware that the brain grows from the bottom-up and recovers from the top-down from a range of Adverse Childhood Experiences. A good empirical and experiential education is important to self-esteem/self-confidence and self-actualization in coping with life's challenges and moral transcendence in a U-turn back toward God's face beyond the narcissistic self to selflessness, as children learn what they live by means of combinations of group dynamics. Apart from a personal relationship with God, parental abuse and/or neglect result in siblings forming codependent relationships with each other, while huddling together in self-soothing ritualistic behavior and in subsequently forming friendships with others who share similar bad parenting experiences. In my opinion, this is the basis for unholy relationships, which perpetuate addictive behavior, such as substance abuse, across generations.

  • @megleland6320
    @megleland6320 8 месяцев назад +91

    It is unbelievable to me that that first violent attack garnered a sentence of only 3 years...that is truly shocking. Someone like this should be in custody far, far longer, where they have no access to drugs/alcohol. The fact that he continued to drink after knowing what he does when drunk shows a total lack of remorse. I don't believe this "type" of person is actually capable of regret and feeling for others, other than "objects" in relation to themselves.

    • @RabidCulture-fr6cx
      @RabidCulture-fr6cx 8 месяцев назад +9

      yep attempted murder

    • @sweatergod5386
      @sweatergod5386 8 месяцев назад +3

      The true NPC, absolute disregard for his own like and the lives of others with absolute self awareness

    • @artdjesus6267
      @artdjesus6267 8 месяцев назад +4

      Domestic assault. 100% the cops were in his side on this one.

    • @It-is-me...Melsie
      @It-is-me...Melsie 8 месяцев назад

      @@artdjesus6267 Bollocks! Stop being so hysterical.

    • @micnorton9487
      @micnorton9487 8 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@artdjesus6267.. maybe,, an ADW charge in Minnesota carries a pretty stiff sentence especially when you attack the victim in the neck and nearly kill them... I don't know how his attorney was able to talk the jury into only assault with intent to cause bodily harm,, because if not attempted murder it's still assault with a deadly weapon......

  • @paul06660
    @paul06660 8 месяцев назад +31

    never underestimate just how much of a monster someone can become when under the influence of alcohol.

    • @aheimdahl5201
      @aheimdahl5201 8 месяцев назад

      Exactly.
      Alcohol is a Poison.

  • @katarina1852
    @katarina1852 8 месяцев назад +62

    Matthew was pathologically jealous with a Dr. Jekyll Mr. Hyde personality. Alcohol consumption unleashed a homicidal maniac with the strange need to shuck his pants. His modus operandi and photos from the first and second crimes were like mirror images. His first spouse was very lucky to have survived. It’s too bad the second spouse threw caution to the wind despite being aware and fore warned.

    • @kitiyana
      @kitiyana 8 месяцев назад +6

      Removing their pants is a behaviour I’ve seen before in a person who would get violent when drunk. My guess is it seems too be connected to some kind of primal, aggressive emotion fuelled by alcohol. It’s very scary to be alone with people in this state of mind.

  • @dr.sammypryor
    @dr.sammypryor 8 месяцев назад +17

    How tragic! Guys I came out of an abusive marriage. Once your partner gets violent with you, it will not be the last time and the attacks will only get more brutal!

    • @HeatherHolt
      @HeatherHolt 3 месяца назад

      I am so very sorry you had to go thru that. I am glad you got away with your life, truly. You never know how far an abuser will go to keep you in line. And for those of us who watch a lot of true crime content, we’ve seen many times where that line ends. For women and men who are victims. ❤ stay strong friend and I hope the ptsd isn’t too awful - once that curtain has been pulled back to expose how truly awful some people can be, people who claim to love us, it’s hard to not expect that in every relationship moving forward.

  • @BlueBelle-711
    @BlueBelle-711 8 месяцев назад +55

    Intoxicated people cannot be reasoned with. Such a tragic story. 😢

    • @troy3456789
      @troy3456789 8 месяцев назад +10

      alcohol affects different people differently. My wife turns into a foul mouth violent rage machine when she drinks. I am a quiet peaceful drunk, and I quit drinking a few years ago (because I can't find any redeeming qualities in it). I think my adventure into mindfulness might have something to do with it.

    • @glow1815
      @glow1815 8 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@troy3456789totally agreed. My oldest sister and our brother the 2 alcoholic in family. My sister gets loud and talks crazy with RED face very annoying. My brother he get angry and short temper he can get violent as well. He know her front tooth out when they were both drunk as a skunk. To this day they're both like that when they have liquor in their system. I don't drink period can't stand the smell of liquor I vomit lol.

    • @troy3456789
      @troy3456789 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@glow1815 Be thankful that alcohol makes you sick. It's the same way with pot for me. It makes my ears fry and ring like crazy. I am lucky.

    • @skycloud4802
      @skycloud4802 8 месяцев назад +9

      It's wise to avoid people that abuse drugs and alcohol.

    • @troy3456789
      @troy3456789 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@skycloud4802 well put. Some people, maybe even many people believe some drugs or some alcohol is probably okay, so it sort of nullifies such a statement.
      Few drug and alcohol abusers believe they have a problem.

  • @aliciagriggs8531
    @aliciagriggs8531 8 месяцев назад +92

    So sad. A woman I know married a man who was previously in prison for 15 years for killing someone in a bar fight. He tried to Strangler her while they were married. I don't understand why some women are attracted to criminals. Unbelievable!

    • @It-is-me...Melsie
      @It-is-me...Melsie 8 месяцев назад +16

      It's just so weird to me that someone would not have those basic standards in their expectation of who they're with. I wouldn't even go near a person who has hurt an animal, so I can't imagine the complete lack of fussiness it would take someone to date a person who has stabbed another.

    • @becsterino
      @becsterino 8 месяцев назад +16

      I mean, I dated an a** for a while, he had an ankle bracelet for allegedly beating up a dude who was abusing a lady, figured maybe he has self control problems and just missing a few brain cells. I had no proof whether it's true or not but once I discovered stuff he was lying about, researched his bg about the bracelet and woah and behold. He violated a restraining order regarding DV. I think some people deserve second chances depending on what crimes you committed, but definitely not this guy.
      People have a habit of lying too. Whose to say he didn't lie about the circumstances which made the lady believe him

    • @jocelynastheart2732
      @jocelynastheart2732 8 месяцев назад

      they are pathetic losers!

    • @icturner23
      @icturner23 8 месяцев назад +14

      I can understand that more than this. A bar fight doesn’t mean he would definitely be violent to her (but I’m sorry he was). But having stabbed a romantic partner should rule out all future romances without any need for further thought.

    • @becsterino
      @becsterino 8 месяцев назад +8

      @@icturner23 maybe I should have clarified. It wasn't a bar fight. His retelling was "I saw this guy just beating his girlfriend outside a grocery store. I went to help the girl out, she reported me to the cops." Never was there mentioning of a restraining order... There are plenty of other lies he said like his favorite "nephew". His adoptive mother (he's an orphan allegedly) lost a child so he has a tattoo for that miscarried baby. Later on I discovered he is in fact, a father. Not against him being a father, was truly upset over lying to me about it (Which instigated my looking into his bg).

  • @cindynimmo
    @cindynimmo 8 месяцев назад +15

    Good grief. Unbelievable how much people are willing to forget/forgive when looking for a mate.

  • @kathyharmon2093
    @kathyharmon2093 8 месяцев назад +18

    In my past I have certainly made mistakes, but I cannot fathom blatantly ignoring the obvious fact that he attempted to murder the first woman, unbelievable

  • @JocieFire
    @JocieFire 8 месяцев назад +18

    I'm sure he was a charmer, and acted normally most of the time. It's difficult to believe what some people are capable of.

  • @shroomyk
    @shroomyk 8 месяцев назад +38

    Happens a lot. It happened to me. Even when you know their history, you think maybe it will be different for you, or the abuser will convince you that the other woman was just somehow bad to him.

    • @kingdele01
      @kingdele01 8 месяцев назад +12

      Unfortunately, I think we have been conditioned nowadays to be overly optimistic and assuming that negative things wouldn't happen to us.
      For instance, some young women would knowingly get into situations with F-boys and get bent out of shape whenever he kicks them out of his rotation to make room for another naive girl.

    • @darrylg3861
      @darrylg3861 8 месяцев назад +6

      You fell for that? Set higher standards

    • @DottieMinerva
      @DottieMinerva 8 месяцев назад +4

      I hope you’re safe and thriving now.

    • @DottieMinerva
      @DottieMinerva 8 месяцев назад +8

      @@darrylg3861being a dick to an abuse victim? Sounds like you need to set higher standards for being a decent person.

    • @I_Love_Rainbows510
      @I_Love_Rainbows510 8 месяцев назад +4

      Ugh, yeah. Been there. You know what I hate? When I'm dating or getting to know a guy, and he swears up and down that he walked in on his then-girlfriend having sex with his then-best-friend, in his bed. How often does that actually happen? I'm always like, "I'm sorry to hear that, but you do realize that you're setting me up to suffer for that, right?" And he's all like, what? And I say, "Your ex-girlfriend cheated on you with your best friend in your bed. So now, going forward, as soon as you think I lied to you about something minor, you're going to get angry about it; and in your mind, your anger will be justifiable because of how your ex-girlfriend treated you. As though I'm to blame for it! Buh-bye." Experience is a great teacher. Sigh. I hope things are going better for you lately!

  • @marilynmcmahon5932
    @marilynmcmahon5932 8 месяцев назад +40

    I wonder where the baby was when Michele went to the hospital and he got arrested?
    Denial is big symptom of alcoholism both for the user AND the family members.

    • @BeezEaze
      @BeezEaze 8 месяцев назад

      With law enforcement I’m sure

  • @drdr76
    @drdr76 8 месяцев назад +11

    POS should have gotten 40 years for his FIRST crime.

  • @townsville69
    @townsville69 8 месяцев назад +12

    What's also scary is just how common men like Matthew are. Nice sober, then jealous, violent monsters when drunk.

  • @loftyloambloomPlants1111
    @loftyloambloomPlants1111 8 месяцев назад +44

    The poor innocent guy at the bar who 'raised the roof' is probably traumatized to an extent.

    • @darthkek1953
      @darthkek1953 2 месяца назад

      "It's murder on the dance floor..."

  • @terriealabama7612
    @terriealabama7612 8 месяцев назад +20

    She tried to be happy in her life living with a dangerous person. This is so sad.

    • @micnorton9487
      @micnorton9487 8 месяцев назад +2

      THANK YOU,, finally someone who isn't calling her a bunch of nasty names just because she was a little naive and hopeful.... 👍

    • @darrylg3861
      @darrylg3861 8 месяцев назад

      It's called stupidity

  • @nickgirilovitch5428
    @nickgirilovitch5428 8 месяцев назад +12

    A while back I wanted to be a criminal psychologist.
    Now after Dr Grande I want to be a comedian!

    • @rabola55
      @rabola55 7 месяцев назад +1

      Good choice, much better to be a comedian than a criminal.

  • @Zachary3D
    @Zachary3D 8 месяцев назад +46

    3 years for attempted murder with a knife?

    • @ronald3836
      @ronald3836 8 месяцев назад +9

      Somehow the first conviction was not for attempted murder.

    • @micnorton9487
      @micnorton9487 8 месяцев назад

      That's why the first trial he shouldn't have been charged with attempted murder but rather assault with a deadly weapon and the seriousness of the knife attack would have pushed it to probably 20 years... But the guy probably had a good lawyer, he was white, there were important black people to put in jail for selling a pound of weed or an ounce of meth,, so you know...

  • @Liciablyth
    @Liciablyth 8 месяцев назад +6

    I still cannot understand why people think that someone who commits destructive behaviour will not do so again.

  • @troy3456789
    @troy3456789 8 месяцев назад +39

    I am not religious at all. I stopped drinking a couple years ago. I realized that alcohol doesn't seem to have any redeeming qualities. It's basically committing slow suicide; plus if I have been drinking I am a bit mentally impaired. It's kind of dumb.
    You can distract yourself from your reality, or you can numb yourself from it, or you can embrace reality and this moment right now. It's all up to you, and it is worth looking into.

    • @BaDazai
      @BaDazai 8 месяцев назад +5

      I too stopped drinking 5 years ago, alcohol tastes terrible too, even the flavoured cocktails awalys leave a bad taste in the mouth. In addition, the hangover, bloating and mental impairment when drunk i's not worth it. Even my bank account thanks me, alcohol is expensive!

    • @pinky567
      @pinky567 8 месяцев назад +4

      So well stated, it is wonderful to be sober and feel life again

    • @troy3456789
      @troy3456789 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@pinky567 I don't know what took me so long to have that realization. At one point, my mother said that alcoholic beverages cause cancer. I thought that was crazy, until I looked it up, then discovered she is right. That played a big part in my behavior changes.
      I remember MASH growing up, and they looked so successful and happy drinking after work (all without the reality of how bad it is)

    • @It-is-me...Melsie
      @It-is-me...Melsie 8 месяцев назад +2

      Some people should never go near alcohol, and for those who know it turns them into belligerent ar5es then they should do the right thing and never drink so they don't subject others to their drunk and horrible selves.
      But for many of us (most?) it's nice to have a drink. We enjoy the taste, and it's fun as our happiness and feel good levels go up. It's not all bad.

    • @micnorton9487
      @micnorton9487 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@troy3456789.. I agree completely, however I have a disorder of mood related to PTSD and other disorders and therefore I have to have some sort of intoxicant, I would never use alcohol because it's a solvent not a drug but the point is, cannabis works...

  • @CindyEisele-bm9ug
    @CindyEisele-bm9ug 8 месяцев назад +5

    That change in personality when drinking is scary 😨

  • @texasrefugee7888
    @texasrefugee7888 8 месяцев назад +12

    "🎶Some of them want to use you. Some of them want to be used by you.Some of them want to abuse you. Some of them want to be abused. Who am I to disagree?"🎶 Sweet Dreams Eurythmics

    • @LilySaintSin
      @LilySaintSin 3 месяца назад

      That song was about BDSM, lol.

  • @RabidCulture-fr6cx
    @RabidCulture-fr6cx 8 месяцев назад +12

    This is where magical thinking ends up.....

  • @marlaroberts2087
    @marlaroberts2087 8 месяцев назад +32

    You have to be pretty desperate to hook up with a guy like that; I don’t know what she was thinking!

    • @troy3456789
      @troy3456789 8 месяцев назад +3

      He appeared to have a not terrible personality when he was not drunk. She only encountered him when he was not drunk or unable to get alcoholic beverages. Other than that, your comment is not different from victim blaming. I guess if a person rapes someone, it's because they brought it upon themselves by wearing too few clothes?
      Victim blaming seems very popular these days despite the fact it doesn't withstand the slightest contact with common sense. I am curious about why this is happening a lot more these days.

    • @allencollins9951
      @allencollins9951 8 месяцев назад +4

      I was thinking the same thing like maybe she had low self esteem which is crazy because she was a good looking woman

    • @troy3456789
      @troy3456789 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@allencollins9951 ahh, more victim blaming. So weird to see this in my opinion.

    • @allencollins9951
      @allencollins9951 8 месяцев назад +4

      @troy3456789 I'm not blaming her what I was saying based on her looks she could have had any man she wanted I'm just curious why she would pick him it baffles me is all

    • @allencollins9951
      @allencollins9951 8 месяцев назад

      @@troy3456789 I really didn't read your 1st comment until now you did shed some light on her choice

  • @soulfoodsmama2980
    @soulfoodsmama2980 8 месяцев назад +26

    Absolutely creepy that he was found with a shirt but no pants on both times.

    • @olilumgbalu5653
      @olilumgbalu5653 8 месяцев назад +4

      Very strange...there's definitely something going on there.

    • @It-is-me...Melsie
      @It-is-me...Melsie 8 месяцев назад +4

      It was possibly just what he normally slept in every night, and both times was ready for bed despite being in a drunken rage.

    • @micnorton9487
      @micnorton9487 8 месяцев назад +2

      Soul,, DEFINITELY,, he wasn't like OJ Simpson and donned a black hat for the event, he took off his pants and grabbed a kitchen knife and went to work... Strange this guy didn't try the story, "some guy came to give my wife's glasses back, and ended up stabbing her, and I chased him out into the woods,, where he accosted me at knifepoint and ordered me to take off my pants,, and I didn't get a good look at him but I will be on a manhunt for the real killer till the day I die...." Was just about as credible as the story he told...... So that still doesn't explain the pants......

    • @micnorton9487
      @micnorton9487 8 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@It-is-me...Melsie... maybe but who takes off their pants as a PRELIMINARY to a stabbin? Presumably both times the guy got hot AFTER GOING TO THE BAR,, maybe the guy didn't drink at home or didn't drink much or didn't get the weird paranoid effect when he didn't drink in public.... If I was in a rage at someone over something, well I probably would just work it out with them or leave but the point is,, you think he'd just sit and watch TV or stock around the house, apparently was making something to eat the first time and just went berserk... Second time they both come home, and he was being weird enough so she went into the bedroom and locked the door,, so why would the guy take his pants off before he kicked in the door? WEEEE-EErd...

    • @nomadscavenger
      @nomadscavenger 8 месяцев назад +2

      I thought so too. It made me think he was getting back at a "mommy" figure, or was punished being forced to pull down his pants by a dad with mommy unable to stop it- so many subconscious reasons to hate a woman, most seem to begin in fear in the home they grew up in. The fact both of his partners acted like they loved him, tried to appease and reassure him but only heightened his determination to kill them while undressed tells me he is a psychopath, and that the alcohol only loosens him up to do what he secretly wants to do while sober. He's playing a role sober, and being himself when drinking, and it seems to do with betrayal, perhaps even being a "trans" or a regression to childhood punishment when being spanked and being very fearful. He doesn't seem to be compelled to go out and murder/rape just any random woman, just ones he allows to get close to him w/out him being close at all. Fear to resentment to blind hatred. Doesn't use a brick, or a hammer or a gun - the amateur psychologist in me says he's basically a frustrated girl in a male body; and somebody in his early years made him ashamed and frightened, repeatedly. Drunk he doesn't want to rape them, he wants total control and them to fear him, suffer until he can cut their heads off.....Or he's a clever snake who may think rightly he could get a lesser sentence because of his "illness", as in "alcoholism is a disease", just like he did before, and is basically a serial killer, w/benefits. He somehow needs a relationship with a woman before he gets to the point of secretly wanting her dead in his daylight, sober phase, then deliberately gets inebriated to find fault with her, and is intrepid in insisting she's guilty of something that weakens him in his own eyes, reminds him of a time he was powerless and humiliated and physically hurt/or some horrendous betrayal or failure by the first female in his life. I actually don't have a clue, but it's speculating about the difference between say, a Ted Bundy, and that Drew Peterson kind of man. (The one who drowns his wives with his bare hands in bathtubs...?) And this guy taking off his clothes has to have some very strong connection to the acting out, IMHO. (It's sad to think his last victim felt so desperate to have a man in her life she created a fantasy world to be with someone like this. Or had a lifetime of magical thoughts before he turned up in it.)🤷😱

  • @shellyharry8189
    @shellyharry8189 8 месяцев назад +5

    The best way to predict future behavior is to look at past behavior

  • @cindyhesson9213
    @cindyhesson9213 8 месяцев назад +24

    Another example of our messed up justice system!! He should've never been let out !! Prayers for the victims 🙏 And thank you Dr for all your hard work !!

  • @LL-rn2xp
    @LL-rn2xp 8 месяцев назад +6

    I think this was the first time in an intro where Dr. Grande states there was a first and second crime.

  • @trishemerald2487
    @trishemerald2487 8 месяцев назад +24

    Why does he always have to take his pants off after stabbing a woman?

    • @pipermccool
      @pipermccool 8 месяцев назад +6

      Um . . .

    • @alexvega7893
      @alexvega7893 3 месяца назад

      It happens to me too when I binge drink. I wake up wondering why I did that 🤷🏼

  • @tracyking5945
    @tracyking5945 8 месяцев назад +8

    When others go dark on Black Friday, you bring the light, Dr. Grande! Thank you for giving redeeming value to this story. When you say, “Matthew betrayed a lover who believed in him for his one true love, alcohol,” you reveal a truth oftentimes overlooked. You give me pause to think.

  • @egretion
    @egretion 8 месяцев назад +17

    Jane Austin shaking her head in her grave.. a female teacher who did not understand the point of her work.." If he knows what's good for him he'll fix himself." Maybe she was more of a Bronte fan who was all about the " I can fix him" fantasy... or worse Mary Shelley, " I can make him."

    • @angelicatrino2498
      @angelicatrino2498 8 месяцев назад +1

      What a funny reference to female writers. Now it made me want to read Bronte. Jane is a little extreme. That is why she did not get married.

  • @mangafq8
    @mangafq8 8 месяцев назад +8

    Drinking to me is the most glaring common denominator. So many problems happen when alcohol is involved 😢

    • @digitalzips
      @digitalzips 8 месяцев назад +2

      Drink brings out the true person, in his case he was an angry bitter jealous man who was unfit to be around women.

  • @ticketyboo2456
    @ticketyboo2456 8 месяцев назад +7

    I feel for Michelle. Kaye had many clues but thought she could change the man. Tragic.

  • @Robin-xt7yo
    @Robin-xt7yo 8 месяцев назад +8

    Hardest working podcaster. Thank you Dr. Grande!

  • @missyskye_sea_land9424
    @missyskye_sea_land9424 8 месяцев назад +11

    How horrific! Such tragic cases for both Michelle (and her son) and Kay😪
    Just like infidelity, the intoxication hardly leads to anything good.
    I’ve witnessed so many terrible things in my life, and fortunately, I’ve never developed a desire for alcohol.

  • @bunnymad5049
    @bunnymad5049 8 месяцев назад +7

    You know, I really think judges and parole board members should be the first places ex-inmates get to live when released. Maybe then, these people will think twice about the impact of their decisions.

  • @emailchrismoll
    @emailchrismoll 8 месяцев назад +22

    He should have never been released from prison, and she knew what she was getting into to

  • @kittybitts567
    @kittybitts567 8 месяцев назад +4

    This is a sad story. A couple of years ago a friend of mine lost her daughter. Her daughter had been dating a man who had been in prison for attacking his ex girlfriend and her new boyfriend with a knife. After the man was released from prison he met my friend's daughter. He was possessive and jealous. When my friend's daughter broke off the relationship with this man he stole her phone and started posting erroneously on her snap chat. My friend's daughter went to Hudson, New Hampshire to visit friends. When she got home the man she had broken up with was waiting for her. He got into her pick up truck and shot her in the head. The summer before my friend's daughter was murdered my friend lost her oldest son.

  • @Krose333
    @Krose333 8 месяцев назад +5

    The fear of being alone is profound enough in some to lull them into taking huge chances; they ignore historical evidence and ongoing evidence of peril every single day until it is too late. The alcohol just offered a break from acknowledging the danger for a while, and then it became the accelerant to the fire that had always been smoldering.

  • @daynasafranek7807
    @daynasafranek7807 8 месяцев назад +9

    I quit drinking 13 years ago after two trips to rehab and it is my experience that as addiction is such a personal thing in why people drink, that the ways and reasons that they can change or be unreasonable when drunk, are a personal “thing” as well and usually are consistent. That is why some alcoholics constantly repeat stories or talk about the same subjects consistently when they are intoxicated. If someone is violent only when intoxicated, then it’s usually a good rule of thumb to avoid that person when they drink alcohol.

    • @micnorton9487
      @micnorton9487 8 месяцев назад

      Well yeah but it's easy for us to say,, she was wrong, but in nine out of 10 cases she would have been right... In AA they say, about one third of people who go to rehab or some other Rock bottom events, stop right away, another third may relapse continuously but show some improvement, and the out of luck last third don't consider quitting and their life probably gets worse.... She drew that out of luck last choice,, and I prefer to think of her as a compassionate but naive woman who tried and the only jerk in this story is the idiot who killed her.......

  • @mwheeler138
    @mwheeler138 8 месяцев назад +7

    I can not tell you how many men I've known that act like this. Extraordinarily insecure & jealous which leads to a smothering controlling nature.

  • @ambermchugh9381
    @ambermchugh9381 8 месяцев назад +2

    Getting arrested covered in blood and without pants twice in your life???? What a jerk

  • @robertgiles9124
    @robertgiles9124 8 месяцев назад +8

    How does a woman with her education not see the warning signs and just hook up anyway? A fatal folly of foolishness.

    • @Menstral
      @Menstral 8 месяцев назад

      It's called hybristophilia

    • @yahnservices1978
      @yahnservices1978 8 месяцев назад

      Ugly and desperate for love.

  • @Swanky95472
    @Swanky95472 8 месяцев назад +3

    I’ve watched every single one of Dr. grandes RUclips videos. I no longer go to bars (not even to eat food ) and I drink about five times a year -only on special occasions.

  • @zenawarrior7442
    @zenawarrior7442 8 месяцев назад +36

    Unfortunate & ill advised risk on her part. He's disgusting, intruder excuses are ridiculous. Can't always blame alcohol..mostly its the person's mental illness/darkness underneath. Thanks Dr G😊💚💚

    • @aliciagriggs8531
      @aliciagriggs8531 8 месяцев назад +1

      Maybe their attorneys come up with these ridiculous excuses.

    • @It-is-me...Melsie
      @It-is-me...Melsie 8 месяцев назад

      @@aliciagriggs8531 Unlikely. They're not allowed to lie.

  • @drewmoore365
    @drewmoore365 8 месяцев назад +10

    Why did he always take off his pants and get arrested in his underwear? Once questionable but twice?

  • @kelliearnold8498
    @kelliearnold8498 8 месяцев назад +5

    I truly hope he never gets out of prison!!!!!

  • @stacierocke6830
    @stacierocke6830 8 месяцев назад +3

    Omg I got wrapped into a very similar scenario, viscious people attach themselves to kind people.

  • @vladimirputindreadlockrast812
    @vladimirputindreadlockrast812 8 месяцев назад +29

    About 45 years ago I worked with a waitress at a restaurant. She went on a date with a male prisoner from a minimum security prison in our town. So minimum, in fact, that if you drove on the back road where the facility was, you could see inmates playing baseball or fishing on the little bridge you drive over. But in that year, or within a couple years, there were a number of incidents where some prisoners did some awful things in the public. One man hijacked a car using a hatchet. Another man murdered a young teacher in the hotel he was a janitor in a work-release program. I actually saw one escapee calling for a ride at the local bar. Later that night, the police chief knocked on my car window while I was making out with my girlfriend, and asked me if I had seen anything because there was an escaped prisoner. I told him what I saw, a guy at the bar earlier who looked like he was trying to be secretive and using the phone and telling whoever he was talking to where to pick him up.
    But in my friend's case, the prisoner she "dated" sliced her face 22 times with a knife. She lie there covered in blood pleading with the man to just let her die. He left, but she didn't die and is alive today, but her face had terrible scars for life. I really can't explain women, this thing they have about "bad boys," that often turns out like the rest of us would expect. As for the minimum security prison, it was closed with finality not long after.

  • @caliblue2
    @caliblue2 8 месяцев назад +6

    Both my ex husbands were violent alcoholics. They didn’t always drink a lot but when they did they were monsters. One time my 2nd husband of 23 years and I went to New Orleans. We got separated on Bourbon Street and there was no phone reception so I went back to our room one block over and waited on him to come home. When he did he was in a rage snarling and growling throwing lamps at me I quickly threw my stuff in a suitcase and ran out of the room drug the suitcase down two flight of stairs (couldn’t wait on the elevator or he would catch me) threw my suitcase in the car and drove three hours home at one in the morning. He had to take a greyhound bus home the next day and I refused to pick him up at the bus station.

  • @Nok112
    @Nok112 8 месяцев назад +10

    Daily reminder of how much people suck

    • @RabidCulture-fr6cx
      @RabidCulture-fr6cx 8 месяцев назад +3

      and why it's better to be lonely

    • @Seawitch907
      @Seawitch907 8 месяцев назад

      Daily!

    • @mangafq8
      @mangafq8 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@RabidCulture-fr6cx alone need not mean lonely. Jesus, I place my trust in Thee 🙏

    • @RabidCulture-fr6cx
      @RabidCulture-fr6cx 8 месяцев назад

      @@mangafq8 I still live in reality vs fantasy clouds to cope.

  • @It-is-me...Melsie
    @It-is-me...Melsie 8 месяцев назад +5

    He was always going to murder someone. If it wasn't Kaye it would have been someone else.

  • @GrumpyCat-mw5xl
    @GrumpyCat-mw5xl 8 месяцев назад +4

    People under estimate how much alcohol can change or amplify some some people until it’s too late. This guy is what we call a real Dr heckle and Mr Hyde.

  • @evilpandakillabzonattkoccu4879
    @evilpandakillabzonattkoccu4879 8 месяцев назад +12

    I feel horrible for all involved.... including the other dancing man. Dude did nothing wrong and a woman was executed because of it.

    • @momo6837
      @momo6837 8 месяцев назад +2

      I was thinking this too! Obviously it wasn't the man's fault at all, but I imagine he feels horrible 😞

  • @LenaL146
    @LenaL146 8 месяцев назад +22

    I think that defence’s explanation of some intruder should not be allowed - it’s a blatant lie and perjury

    • @pipermccool
      @pipermccool 8 месяцев назад +9

      Leave it to an attorney who’s “just doing his job.” smh

    • @zenawarrior7442
      @zenawarrior7442 8 месяцев назад +7

      Exactly. They need to prove this; otherwise a pathetic attempt to avoid consequences.

    • @It-is-me...Melsie
      @It-is-me...Melsie 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@pipermccool You don't like defence attorneys? You'd dislike the alternative far more.
      By the way, plenty of defence attorneys are in fact very people.

    • @micnorton9487
      @micnorton9487 8 месяцев назад +2

      ​​@@It-is-me...Melsie... This is true..... In the absolutely horrific instance of the Lululemon murder case,, one female black store employee killed a female white store employee by bludgeoning her with about 12 different steel tools she found in a toolbox, beating her 349 times, and when asked how many blows the victim was conscious for, the corner said, all of them... HORRIBLE case that started out with the defendant,, her first name is Brittany I can't remember her last name, claiming that both her and jana, the other store employee, were accosted by two robbers and Brittany was s assaulted while Jana was murdered....... Turned out Brittany was lying,, she wasn't actually s assaulted,, Jenna had caught her stealing something and Brittany became so enraged she just snapped....... And at one point in the trial, her attorney just basically said, yes, Brittany did it....... She snapped...... In this way, keeping her out of first-degree premeditated and he kept it as a first degree unpremeditated whatever that means, even though the horrific nature of the crime meant that she will never see another free day......

    • @micnorton9487
      @micnorton9487 8 месяцев назад

      ​​​​@@pipermccool..there are some like that,, once when I was waiting for my pretrial for drugs,, this public pretender who was defending this black guy, said, your honor my client claims he's the victim of racist treatment by the police and by the homeowner. My client was traveling down the road with his friend, the car broke down, and my client went to get help...... He went to a farmhouse door at 2:00 a.m., knocked, and even though it was pretty warm decided that it was an emergency so he had to go in the house to use the phone...... The door was unlocked, my client denies forcing the door even though there was evidence that the door was forced, and was looking around for the telephone. My client was using a flashlight that he brought along because he thought he might need to look for a telephone in the middle of the night, and my client was ooking in drawers and in the pantry closet only because my client was searching for the telephone. My client said he didn't turn on a light because he already had a flashlight, and he was so shocked when the homeowner appeared with his own flashlight, holding a 12 gauge shotgun, that a knife that my client didn't bring with him and that wasn't from inside the house, magically appeared in his hand, and when the homeowner said drop the knife and turn on the light, boy, my client immediately did as he was asked, and immediately lay on the floor when the big bad white homeowner told him to and proceeded to call the police. When the police got there, they asked my client, a black man from inner city minneapolis, what he was doing cruising with his friend in the middle of the night in a rural area 35 mi north of the city where he didn't know anyone. My client explained his story,, he and a friend were looking for an apple orchard that they could visit when it got light (and apparently when it got to be September because this was early may,, 1992,, in central Minnesota) said the homeowner was just a big bad racist who doesn't understand that black people should be allowed to just open people's doors and root around for things in the middle of the night,, that he wanted to charge the homeowner for basically kidnapping or some related stupid ass s***, and the cops just chuckled and said, we'll see what happens in court....... The homeowners shotgun was not taken,, mainly because there wasn't a round in there when the police got there,, and anyway that my client is claiming to be completely innocent.
      Prosecuting attorney starts asking, you say you were with your friend right? Yeah. And you say your friend's car broke down so you went to get help. Yeah. So why didn't the police find your friend or his car when they got there? He must have got it running. And he didn't come back to pick you up? No. And he was your friend? Yes. So you say you went to the homeowners door and knocked is that right? Yeah. And they didn't answer? No. So you went in? Yeah. Did you force entry? No. The police report says the door looks like it was forced. Maybe someone forced it some other time. Uh-huh. So you already had a flashlight when you went in? Yeah. Do you always carry a flashlight when you're cruising in a car? I think the defense attorney objected to that because it was irrelevant or something, and the prosecutor just waved it off and said,, so you were looking for a telephone. Yeah. In drawers and in the refrigerator. Well I don't know where people keep their telephone. But you didn't turn on the light to make it easier for you to see the telephone. I guess I didn't think of it. So when the homeowner came in, what happened? He called me the n-word and told me to get my butt on the floor or he blow my head off. So you got on the floor? Yeah. Did he ask you why you were in his house? Yeah.
      At this point the prosecutor just sat there and waited, just staring at the guy. I was staring back and forth like it was a tennis match, a purely incredulous look on my face, and the prosecutor finally said loudly, AND YOU F****** SAID? I was looking for a phone. So you say in the statement, the homeowner was a racist. Yeah. Why? Because he thought I was there to steal something. Did he ask if you were there to steal something? No. Your friend had pretty good luck, getting his car running and making it back home. But of course, with the situation, we have to look for him too. Pause. You wouldn't want to tell us his name, maybe he can confirm your story? No I better not.
      No further questions your honor.
      I couldn't help it, it wasn't my case and it wasn't my business but I started laughing..... The judge didn't really buy it either and set the guy's bail at $100,000 or some ungodly sum,, I was being charged with having an amphetamine lab and my bail was only $40,000...
      Point is you won't BELIEVE what some attorneys will say, even if they're not being paid for it really.......

  • @user-od3be8ny4o
    @user-od3be8ny4o 8 месяцев назад +27

    I am curious as to whether there may perhaps be some degree of grandiosity or narcissism with women who date criminals? I've not considered it from this perspective before but I do wonder if they somehow believe they're so special that they can turn the offender into a good person. I know they'll be a high degree of low self-esteem within this group, but I wonder what else might be going on. Further, could there be some degree of certainty whilst dating a criminal, almost 'I know they are a bad person; I can't therefore be taken by surprise". I find it fascinating.

    • @Hatbox948
      @Hatbox948 8 месяцев назад +11

      Possibly I would think. Plus, the guy would be dependent on them to some degree.

    • @aliciagriggs8531
      @aliciagriggs8531 8 месяцев назад +7

      Codependents.

    • @micnorton9487
      @micnorton9487 8 месяцев назад +3

      Surprisingly enough,, some women seem to hang out with criminals because they feel they'll be safer...... That is, when they go out, that the tough guy persona of a criminal will keep them protected........ Of course, the guy just getting into a serious fight over nothing might be sort of a problem, but I suppose they don't consider that......

  • @michellegiordano8277
    @michellegiordano8277 8 месяцев назад +2

    Great analysis! Unfortunately she was so blinded by love that she could t see that she was dancing with the devil😢🌵🩷

  • @see-rious-ley
    @see-rious-ley 8 месяцев назад +4

    When a woman is desperate - in this case it baffles me why, she’d believe anything.
    It’s too bad that even being aware of what this trash was capable of, someone somewhere would be willing to take a chance with the trash.
    A lack of character judgement is to blame here.

  • @catnewskawai9367
    @catnewskawai9367 3 месяца назад +2

    "I never thought the leopards would eat MY face," sobbed the woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party.

  • @WoodyWard
    @WoodyWard 8 месяцев назад +11

    What could go wrong?

  • @melvinlovejones
    @melvinlovejones 8 месяцев назад +7

    It amazes me how women choose guys like this, while I (an accomplished man who wouldn’t hurt a flee) could barely get a response to a ‘good morning’ greeting when I was on a dating site.

    • @GoodnightJLH
      @GoodnightJLH 8 месяцев назад +4

      Most dating site profiles aren’t actually active. They make it hard to delete your profile on those sites because more members means selling more subscriptions.
      I know someone who uses fake pictures on a dating site profile because she likes the attention but she would never actually go out on a date.

    • @It-is-me...Melsie
      @It-is-me...Melsie 8 месяцев назад +5

      Most of us women would not go near a criminal, and I for one wouldn't go near anyone who's harmed an animal let alone stabbed someone multiple times.

    • @melvinlovejones
      @melvinlovejones 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@It-is-me...Melsie of course I’m not speaking of all women, just the ones that have and do.

  • @Chris-ui4rg
    @Chris-ui4rg 8 месяцев назад +50

    Blaming this on alcohol seems lazy. Most people who drink obviously do ‘not’ stab their partners.
    Whatever is at the root of this man’s rage and jealousy issues - it’s undoubtedly more than alcohol.

    • @Cfchild1
      @Cfchild1 8 месяцев назад +5

      Narcissistic nature at heart.

    • @Liverpool5095
      @Liverpool5095 8 месяцев назад +12

      ​@@jimmyf2077Alcohol helps to reveal what the individual has hidden inside them, removing inhibitions. The alcohol just helps to bring it out... but it's something inside the individual that existed in any case.

    • @carnifaxx
      @carnifaxx 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@Liverpool5095 I think they intended to point out that it may be "sleeping" inside the person until they wake it up using alcohol, but you cannot know what's inside you when you are drunk before you are, so if alcohol was not that common, the evil might have been, in some cases, sleeping all their life without ever waking up...

    • @yahnservices1978
      @yahnservices1978 8 месяцев назад

      Drink people are not safe and are not to be trusted.

    • @dianecripps204
      @dianecripps204 8 месяцев назад +6

      Some people become irrationally and violently angry when consuming alcohol, some don't. Please avoid the first type.

  • @Cfchild1
    @Cfchild1 8 месяцев назад +2

    "I can change him" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @CountrysideCutie
    @CountrysideCutie 8 месяцев назад +3

    9:44-9:48...This is a VERY accurate statement, regardless of alcohol use. Very insightful.

  • @helpyourcattodrive
    @helpyourcattodrive 8 месяцев назад +9

    So many unexplainable situations in this world. Thanks, Grande, for bringing us your even and balanced view and analysis of so many of them.❤ We benefit from your videos.

  • @Herewearenowentertainus
    @Herewearenowentertainus 8 месяцев назад +5

    There were more women he terrorized who testified at the sentencing phase 😢 RIP Kay.

  • @roysmallian2889
    @roysmallian2889 8 месяцев назад +3

    Alcohol is a substance that affects different people in very different ways. Some people do get nicer upon consuming but others can turn into monsters. Generally, alcohol is a very bad 'drug' that most people do not understand or appreciate the consequences of its use.

  • @Chachi_JD
    @Chachi_JD 8 месяцев назад +5

    So sad. She seemed like a lovely person. 🌹 This guy? What a piece of work. There should be deep psychological research into these insane type personalities that so heartlessly hurt others. "Hope" doesn't count here. I find it hard ro believe that his "craziness" wasn't identified in the time he was incarcerated. Justice is truly blind, especially when degree holding humans aren't schooled enough and/or smart enough to notice. Three years holding him obviously didn't change him. He's pathologically narcissistic, and when filled with evil spirits; he was homicidal. I believe this murder was avoidable. 💭🙏🏼👼🏼

  • @javierromero6858
    @javierromero6858 8 месяцев назад +10

    This dude is coward. Both times waited until he was alone to be violent which tells you his behavior wasn’t all that clouded by alcohol. In the second crime he never went for the guy, his misogyny is nauseating.

  • @wovfm
    @wovfm 8 месяцев назад +4

    System fails again after the heinous first attack combined with Kay's gullibility to buy into this clown. Matt's prison BFs better beware if hooch finds its way into the slammer.

  • @CrocodileTooth
    @CrocodileTooth 8 месяцев назад +2

    I have met women like Kay that somehow think they can "fix" guys like Matthew, despite all the warning signs and testimony of others.

  • @SonyaBlacker
    @SonyaBlacker 8 месяцев назад +4

    2.4k in 7 minutes, nice Dr G!

  • @jaysonwhiteford4531
    @jaysonwhiteford4531 8 месяцев назад +2

    When Dr Grande gave us not one, but TWO crime timelines... I was like 😳😲🤯🤯🤯

  • @dianemorton2222
    @dianemorton2222 8 месяцев назад +1

    I think many underestimate the severe dangers of alcohol.

  • @olilumgbalu5653
    @olilumgbalu5653 8 месяцев назад +3

    Another version of this case states Kay was present during Matthew's trial and was giving the woman he attempted to kill nasty looks.

  • @lyndahadley2352
    @lyndahadley2352 8 месяцев назад +1

    This case shows very clearly how dangerous drinking alcohol can be. Thanks Dr. Grande. I hadn't heard of this case before seeing your video.

  • @petergriffin383
    @petergriffin383 8 месяцев назад +1

    The title alone tells me all I need to know about these characters...

  • @jillruben8924
    @jillruben8924 8 месяцев назад +1

    I spent over an hr and a half watching a true crime documentary. You summed it up in 14 mins! Geez. Thank you Dr Grande.

  • @johndonahue4777
    @johndonahue4777 8 месяцев назад +3

    Don't drink.

  • @alphaomega1351
    @alphaomega1351 8 месяцев назад +34

    You should analyze why women are attracted to criminals. 😶

    • @discospiders
      @discospiders 8 месяцев назад +11

      Some women. Not all.

    • @astraetluna
      @astraetluna 8 месяцев назад

      Trauma. The more neurotic the woman the higher likelihood to date an antisocial. It’s evolutionary. Dating the biggest junkyard dog equals safety! Especially in dangerous societies! Dating the mafia boss is the best option. Willing to bet money she has some childhood abuse.

    • @ShakerMaker1980
      @ShakerMaker1980 8 месяцев назад +3

      Hybristophilia…

    • @It-is-me...Melsie
      @It-is-me...Melsie 8 месяцев назад

      Not only women. Men also. Look at all the men the awful Susan Smith has fawning over her.

    • @longshanks5531
      @longshanks5531 3 месяца назад

      Dark triad traits

  • @havefunpk
    @havefunpk 8 месяцев назад +3

    Why would a reasonably attractive teacher want to date a violent prisoner ?

  • @steveeuphrates-river7342
    @steveeuphrates-river7342 8 месяцев назад +2

    Kay was shocked to have found a criminal in the prison

  • @TJM316
    @TJM316 8 месяцев назад +10

    Hard to feel sorry for that woman when she dated a man that was in prison for stabbing his ex smh.

    • @Azulakayes
      @Azulakayes 8 месяцев назад

      He stabbed his ex 7 times, it shows he was always a murderer. Why date someone that violent?

  • @DressedForDrowning
    @DressedForDrowning 7 месяцев назад +1

    Every time he drinks alcohol, he becomes Hulk.