People say killers have no value for human life. I don't think that's true. If they didn't think life has value, they'd not go around taking it--you don't, for example, go around picking up and collecting things you don't think are valuable either. Rather, they enjoy the power that comes from taking lives. That's why they don't have a problem trying to get out of the death penalty, because it's another way for them to exert power or prevent someone else from having the same one they had had over so many others.
@@JD-gk7eh some good points…but maybe a caveat I see, is that they value life in a very different way. They don’t value the individual, the personhood, or anything about another…other than what the other provides for their self serving need. The women were outlets for his rage, objects used and not valued. Yes, about the power. Absolutely.
I can see being "amazed' that someone could take so many lives for decades and go on living normally otherwise. Avoiding the death penalty is not amazing at all. Personal survival- no matter how moral a person is- is one of the strongest forces innate in most humans- or animals, for that matter.
You need to understand how their brains works in order to understand what motivates them. If you try to think about it in the ways that us with brains that aren’t psychopathic work then we would obviously never be able to make sense of it
Anything based on Ann Rule's research is bound to be top-notch. She was a Master at her craft. Growing up in the Pacific Northwest, we lived what she wrote. Brudos, Bundy and a whole lot more. So many places to dump bodies here.
"Crime Zone's" narrator is quite an eloquent story teller , also, btw; Telling the story, WELL, is a CRAFT but there are many SLOPPY story copyists...JUST FOR THE VIEWS. The ones that merely hijack video clips and then have nothing of merit to even say about what they've stolen are the WORST. We happen to like the narrators on "Forty-Eight Hours" -they'll never replace KENDRA btw...the New Detectives are pretty eloquent too. It's sad to hear about someone who's trying to support their three children, whose been a victim of abuse-who thinks they HAVE to work as a prostitute; Seems that even fast food workers HIRING some of these mothers, sometimes show empathy for them...Surely it should be a last resort, and not a "way to work your way through college!"
I watched Ridgeway's court proceedings at my home in Massachusetts and was overwhelmed by Linda Rule's dad forgiving Ridgeway. That man had a great heart.
@GurovskiStop putting words in everyone's mouths. Some people can forgive & some can't. I remember a few things from this video, but the thing that stands out most is NOT Mr. Rule's forgiveness.
I cannot imagine how traumatized his ex wife must be. You can see that this is still so painful recounting it . I hope the families and she can find peace and healing .
I didn't realize until just now that my dad worked at the same plant as Ridgway in the early '80s, when the murders were taking place. It's crazy. I grew up hearing about these murders, but by the time he was caught and tried, I was an adult and had moved away from the area, so I didn't pay much attention.
@@onewayturtles he worked there for a long time, it’s said that a lot of kenworth trucks were painted by him which is kinda crazy to think people even now are still driving trucks that he painted
What is strange, is their meeting seemed to stop the murders for a while, tragically his seemingly genuine love for her, probably saved lives. The poor woman, what a horrible thing to live with, hopefully she saved some women in the period where the murders stopped.
And I think what ppl don't understand, we have to forgive or we aren't forgiven. I'm sure ole Ridgeway realized if this guy could forgive him God could.. but hard to say bc you know.. he was just feeling sorry for himself🤷♀️ Anyways I was more worried about Bundy bc both myself & my BFF were straight up his type & the right age.. he just loved the good-hearted kinda gal✌🏼😎
With his father being hateful towards women I imagine he’s accustomed to hatred he can brush it off, what these killers aren’t used to is others humanizing them. They spend so much time dehumanizing their victims and everyone around them that at a certain point they end up dehumanizing themselves in a way and after so long being seen as a monster they aren’t used to forgiveness
@Angel-mi6qs The serial killers feel inhuman, in a sense, well before they dehumanize others via serial murder. This story is tragic for everyone involved.
@rejaneflorinda6162 yes they did idk why people keep saying that. You can see in his face before the forgiving dude that he was actually starting to feel bad about what he did
I remember back in 2003 i was working right near Hwy167 (W. Valley Hwy.) and Willis St. Upon leaving the shop I was going to turn onto Willis St. as usual to head out for the day. There must have been 40 State Trooper, motorcycle Cops, unmarked detective vehicles etc. all lined along the road. The forensic paleontologists had their canopy tents up and sifting swings and the cadaver dogs working this small area about the size of a largish back yard. The grass is always 3 feet tall there. Turned out it was one of Ridgeway's victims lying 25 feet off the side of the road in that tall grass forever. I must have drove past that spot two or three times a day for a year never knowing, hiding right there 25 feet away in plain sight. Man, you want to talk about the creeps of reality. It still bothers me today, even just sharing this.
I had similar thoughts when Wesley Dodd was killing kids in Vancouver. I thought that I read his electric meter several times while he had killed people and wondered if other killers or future killers were ever near me. It’s creepy.
Yeah. They live among us. When I was in the 8th grade there was a 6th grade girl that went missing. I didn't really know her. But, a few days later they found her body in a trash can in her neighborhood a few houses from her cousins. Now, I knew her cousins very well and would walk home with them every day. It was her neighbors family member that had killed her. I still get the creeps thinking about how many times I walked past that trash can in that short time..
I can't imagine the terror those young girls were going through. You know they had heard about all these bodies being found and then to find themselves in his clutches must have been horrific. I like this judge making him face the families of his victims and allowing them to state their feelings. The one that hurt him most was the father telling him "I forgive you." That got to him.
I don't think people are will ever be able to fully put themselves into their shoes 😢 their terror will have been insurmountable. My God,there were so many of them though, so so many, and probably many more we will never know about. Horrendous case 😢
@@hannahhopkinson9044Exactly my thoughts! That man had a wife and children but that didn’t mean anything to him! My how could a human being be so extremely cruel like that? It’s beyond my understanding. I feel very sorry for the families of all the young girls. I’d Never forgive it!!
43:43 , That Father saying, I forgive you, affected him worse than others saying they hated him. That fathers FAITH is strong. This story was Horrible. I can't imagine the fear they faced. I truly hope these families have found a way to heal.
No. That father’s judgement was twisted by brainwashing. The forgiveness God spoke of is not for raping babies and strangling children nor prostitutes. Forgiveness has boundaries. You do not have to stand up there and virtue signal to get respect. Just speak from the heart about your loss. Trust that God will do the rest. But believe it. Forgiveness will not be part of the judgement.
I was a chauffeur in Olympia for a few years. Every time I went to Sea-Tac (the airport), I'd always go to the gas station right there at 176th and international Blvd (old 99). I could just feel the presence of all the victims of Gary Ridgway, as I drove south along the Blvd. It got so bad that I found a different route whenever I left the airport. Also, R. I. P. Ann Rule!
12:00 how can he be outsmarting the police when they had him, they visited him at his home - “there’s no one here” he said - they believed him and didn’t pursue the investigation????
That's the part that really stuck with me too. Just think about seeing your significant other in a vehicle kidnapped and following them and finding the vehicle and the house you no there in and the person you witnessed says no one's here and the police say okay and leave. The officer that went to that house that day is trash. I hope he thinks about that everyday
Living in Seattle/Tacoma my entire life. First there was Bundy in the 70's but the GreenRiver killer was much more terrifying. I never thought he would of been caught. Thank God he finally was. Watching it unravel in real time was heartbreaking for all the families. I hope he is rotting where ever he is now. RIP to all the ladies🕯🕯🕯🕊🕊🕊
This comment touched me I'm in VA. This case was what made me starte watching . Reading and studing serials I read anything I could find on Ridgeway I also didn't think they could catch up to him I started praying and praying over this It broke my heart tht so many families were hurting. I wanted to watch his full court procedures but I never could find that.. don't know why they won't release that info and his full interigati9ns. I'm so sorry the folks living out there was terrorized that way I hope you are ok all of yall. I'd have been a nervous wreck. Respect from Va.
@lindaarrington9397 thank you so much. I want to say there wasn't a trial he just plead guilty. And didn't pass GO. Just went straight to jail. He is what a monster is!!!
@chrissieroxba2949 oh I totally can relate. During the Bundy yrs, my mom wouldn't let us play in our front yard or ride our bikes. It's like we were on lock down.
As someone from the south hearing an accent come out of his daughters mouth that sounds like a lot of my family members just sends chills. The way she calls him “daddy” is such a wholesome Deep South colloquialism so juxtapositioned against the fact she’s talking about the atrocities he did while interspersing a term of endearment is just chilling.
Linda's father is truly someone to admire, he even made a psychopath shed tears and feel sorry for himself and perhaps even regret it just a little bit like a normal human being, forgiveness is so hard to truly achieve, yet so powerful
Why does the father making the killer cry such a big deal to so many people? Why is “forgiveness “ for this murderer the biggest deal? I feel it comes less from “Christianity” than the fact that you don’t care about the lives of these victims. They weren’t real victims to you so his “conversion “ is more important.
Psychopaths have no capacity to feel empathy they just can’t. He was definitely not feeling anything . Probably” it “was thinking that is what a normal human would do and managed to cry out of shame. They are barely human beings and most of them are in power and in finance only a small percentage kills
Hearing that victim's dad give him forgiveness....and seeing his daughter's killer crumble like that.....my god. I got chills. That was POWERFUL. It was like with a word, he became undone. It was over.
Good to see Ann Rule a great crime writer. The author of many great books. My favorite was the want ad killer. RIP Ann. You know this is gonna be good with her on it.
This psychopath passed several lie detector tests. That's why their results should be taken very lightly. Obviously. This book by Ann Rule, Green River Running Red, was absolutely one of my favorites.
yes the tests can be beaten but they can often tell when someone is being deceitful of course if lying doesn’t affect you neurologically or physically the test isn’t gonna detect what isn’t there.
Psychopathy comes from sociopathy.. even sociopaths who don't commit crimes can't pass them bc of the very nature of sociopathy🤷♀️ so read up on that so you understand what Im saying✌🏼
I lived in Greenwater as a kid, a small mountain town through which the Green River flows. I was under 10yrs old but I recall peering up and down the river banks to make sure there were no dead people or serial killers before I went for my swim!
@@shaggyrumplenutz1610 Well I hope that didn't stay with you for too long. Was that killer ever caught? I don't recall that story if I've heard it. As for me, It's more scary to look back on I think, remembering what an ignorant little child I was, having no real idea the horrors some people are capable of inflicting on others. I knew about the things going on, but without a real understanding of what that meant. Sure I peeked up and down the river for serial killers, but what on earth was I gonna do if I saw one, half a mile from home at a secluded, wooded, river bend?! /facepalm
@adamirishconundrum851 Yeah, their prejudice caused some real reluctance. Luckily wiser heads eventually came into leadership. The early failures changed how King Co. approached cases like this.
They did follow up. They went to the house. Sorry but we're not letting the govt run rampant in our homes. I know women get emotional and throw logic out the window , but the govt is prevented from doing such things for a reason. It's to protect all of us from the govt. Yes I'd like if they had caught him that day too, but they have no grounds for just coming in your home. Imagine if someone says you're holding someone in your home and the cops come in . Dump out all your cereal and pasta boxes , throwing it all on the floor, cutting open your furniture, dumping all your dressers , cutting your mattresses. And just overall trashing everything in your home... thats what they do when the come in peoples homes. Even opening holes in walls sometimes. All without any compensation to fix damages or the emotional distress. Keep in mind, all your neighbors see the 10 cop cars and flashing lights , the whole community knows. Youre assuled guilty off public rumors... Just cause someone says you did something , doesnt give the cops or govt the ability to do what you think they should be able to. On top of all that, there's no way of knowing if she was even still there when the cop knocked at the door
The second story - my word… she was way too chill. “He raped the baby and bashed its head in with a hatchet”, then she talked about him (“ma daddy”) like he was just a scamp doing silly stuff. I hope it’s a coping mechanism of some sort.
I read the book about Pee Wee Gaskins and this video just touched on his crimes. He used to fill his victims with molten lead in all their orifices why they were still alive.Truly horrific.
It’s not surprising Netflix as brainwashing people into accepting violence and other acts as normal when in more censorship when it comes to violent act on Netflix and other apps
At the same time the Green River killings were happening in Seattle area, Robert Hansen was killing women in Anchorage....he owned a bakery and would fly the women out of town and hunt them down...i was a young kid when that happened...scary.
I remember occasionally driving on Highway 99 past the airport in the 1980's and seeing the scantily clad girls standing out by the edge of the road, waiting for customers, and hoping they wouldn't become a victim of the Green River killer, even though I didn't know his moniker at that time. So many girls, so many young lives......why he wasn't given the death penalty is beyond me.
I met Gary and a friend of his at a bar I went to. I once followed them both to his friends house and bought something and he lived right off military Road close to his dumping place. His buddy carried a pistol in his back side where your crack is and seen it because he was heavy and when he reached forward you could see it .I have always thought his friend was in on it, because of where he lived.Gary at the bar was always pleasant and smiling , but who knew he was this sick man after he left .i knew of a real pretty girl who worked in the same plant he did and omg how lucky she was.
As far as I know, all of his victims were prostitutes. Still, I'm sure it was a terrifying revelation to be a woman and to have associated with Ridgway in any way.
So it is messed up that girls become prostitutes, no doubt, but are you saying that you feel sooty because they were abused and that’s why they get into this kind of lifestyle?🤔🤔
2:48 Thank you, Detective for your service to bring justice to this evil entity. I am so apologetic for your past & it’s poignant that you grew up to see JUST IS SERVED!! 💛
I've been disappointed and bullied throughout life. Mistreated and abused also. Would not dream of any violence towards a soul. No bloody excuse. At all. He is mad
I think the daughter knew more back then than she admits. She knew people were disappearing yet did nothing. She describes him raping a baby like it’s nothing. No emotion at all. Idk just very odd.
I lived close to where Gary Ridgeway worked when arrested. For years women in that area were filled with fear and so relieved when the case was finally solved.
It may be a powerful psychological tool to process and live with the grief and ramifications of having a loved one murdered, but its not really a weapon against evil. Forgiveness didn't stop the killing from happening and doesn't do anything about Gary killing again. Incarcerating him stopped him killing whether anyone forgave him or not.
@dmichael100 Agreed . Everyone has their faith, I'm not here to knock it. It just seems to me that people take " God forgives " to such drastic extremes. Maybe it's a way to make ourselves feel better about living amongst all this evil. Just my opinion. I don't know the right way , if there is such a thing . I'm not God . But I pray for his victims and their families. I couldn't care less about someone like him who causes this much pain .
I swear to Zeus and Ra and Wankan Tanka, Odin, and Altijera I believe you are all dead in the imaginations of people. Slowly by slowly Science proves the Bible is man made, ego driven, fairy tales.
To this day my mother is afraid to drive past the green river even though Gary Ridgeway has been in prison since 2001. I cant imagine how shaken the actual towns people are having lived through this.
I used to live up the hill from the green river. I would get that eerie feeling whenever I drove by. That area in general was never a good area, there were other bodies being found there unrelated to the green river killer.
My sister once told me that she lacked the compassion gene. I said "Do you love your kids? Would you do anything for them if they were hurt or needed you?". She said yes. So I replied "You have compassion, you just chose not to use it when it comes to other people. You use that excuse to give you permission to treat others any way you want. You use that excuse to push people away, to protect yourself from being hurt."
I knew a guy that looks so much like him and, oddly enough, worked as an automotive painter. He was very strange and used to say crazy things. He hold a box cutter and say " it only takes this much of a blade to kill a man." I believe it was in the early 90s
They say their is power in forgiveness. You can feel the power of this poor fathers words as he forgives and see the exact moment they touched Ridgway in a way no hateful or unforgiven words could!! That is power. I understand the families who couldn't or wouldn't but watching that made me feel something that hate has never been able to do.
I feel like she's so desensitised to the horrific things as being almost normal because she knew her dad as a kind man to her so she knows how bad the things he did were but mentally it's like a different person or just a story she read not someone who she loves. The trauma has got to have messed up her brain!
@@neversawyours is one of the most aware, connecting the dots, comments I’ve seen. I’ve studied trauma, intergenerational trauma, attachment theory, CPTSD, and more…and so many are clueless and making the most ignorant comments. I’m so glad you get it
They made a movie type of documentary about the Green River Killer on Tubi TV, and it was a captivating and powerful movie. Law enforcement was about to give up on trying to catch the serial killer except for one determined Deputy who was the one who ended up solving the case and catching Gary Ridgeway, and it was an overlooked detail and statement made by a young lady about a scratch she left on Gary's arm that he covered up by pouring acid on it, and is what lead to the Deputy solving the case after almost two decades, and Gary even fooled his own wife who didn't have a clue about his horrific and evil behavior, and I don't care if his victims were prostitutes nobody deserves to die and be murdered the way Gary did to these ladies.
@@antiochiaadtaurum3786: It shouldn't matter what kind of lifestyles ppl lead nobody deserves to be raped and murdered is the point I was trying to make that everyone seemed to get.
@derekbaker him and ted bundy operated on same patch ted bundy also was offered a plea deal life with out parole he did not want the deal because he genuinely thought he would get off
@@derekbaker777 there’s a series called death row stories with a German bloke and he did a lot of interviews with inmates on Texas males on death row “before their scheduled execution “…a lot get their lawyers to go to court/supreme courts to get a stay for this that and the 3rd saying lethal injection protocol with the drugs is cruel unusual punishment im sorry what about their victims why should they be able to fall asleep have a peaceful execution no I’m sorry there was alot of said botched executions and I am sorry there is no such thing as a botched execution
She made the statement that not even prostitutes deserve to die because sadly there are people out here who think these women should be fair game for those willing to murder.
I'm praying for the victims,their families and friends. I love and appreciate Faye and Dave Reichert ,they're amazing. They never gave up on these women.
Well after the people are dead, there’s no sense at all praying for them, it’s too late for that. Now as far as praying for family members or friends, that’s a little different. And what exactly are you going to pray for them?
@@TransoceanicOutreachthere's more than that if you add the trucker's that are doing the same thing. They estimated around 250 that pick up the girls in one state and dump their bodies in another making it almost impossible to identify the remains.
@@DTM93that's how they just got LISK, he threw away his pizza crusts in a trashcan in the middle of Manhattan. They also matched his wife's hair to a strand found on a victim.
The wife and everyone who knew him talks about how normal and meek he was. I guess that’s why he went so long undetected. No one would have even thought he was capable.
Everytime I watch one of these shows and they say "they thought it was a mannequin" I end up singing "it's never a mannequin" in an array of tunes because it's said so often
In my hometown a couple of teens were stealing mannequins and wrapping them in clear plastic with duct tape where the mouth was and fake blood all over them. Some were left in woods some were left on creek banks and some were weighted down and put in the creeks. It was hilarious and creepy at the same time
They happen to be everywhere. I personally lived in Oak Harbor, WA, in the 60'. Went to Jr high school and high school with another one of your serial killers, Robert Yates. Later moved to Southern California and came in contact with another one of them. Gerald Parker, who's on death row in San Quinton. Had a roommate in Southern California who had contact with another serial killer as a 12, year old. The individual there name was William Bonin. He happened to be the first individual executed by lethal injection. Like i said, these individuals are more common than you think.
Watching that green river killer documentary and seeing how horrific his killing spree was it made me realise how lucky I am to have the best dad on the planet and a man who has looked after me and my mum my entire life .....r.i.p to all those victims of his atrocities and I hope the families managed to find some solace after he was captured and thrown in prison for the rest of his life...respect to all the victims and their families
Its so fascinating and crazy how killers can remain in that frame of mind for hours or days . Most people even when striking out with fury when upset it only last a few seconds or milliseconds, then we are over it . Its out and gone . Its difficult to understand how someone can be in that dark zone for so long in order to brutalize a human like that
That is Disgusting when that Guy Said "You will be forgiven." That's a problem in society right there! No he will not be forgiven. If everyone was forgiven for their terrible acts - than this world would be even worse than it is!
@@melisentiapheiffer3034Way to massively downplay his father calling women whores and taking him with to his prostitute excursions. He wouldn’t hate women without his dad putting those thoughts into his head!
Something in the water... imagine the mental issues they had , or the experiences that caused them to enact such a life. I dont believe people are born as such. If you go with that idea, born as serial killers, then everyone is capable. Human nature allows for self preservation and narcissism in every person, and circumstance could allow for all , especially males, to follow such a path. Women are less likely, obviously. But I think its young age and adolescent experience that caused these people to grow up to this lifestyle. Weird mommy -child dynamic, or a absent dad , paired with abuse
How in the holy FnCK could the police not associate all of these missing people with Gaskins?? Many were close relations!! And the daughter knew of people coming to their house but never being seen again??? A lot of blood on the police and daughter’s hands.
She is repulsive and exploits her vile father for her own gain. Her using 'half pint' and 'daddy' and her murder tour are truly the lowest class thing i have seen.
@@rachael_grey Reichert is a Republican. Truck Painter Gary Ridgeway did not destroy Seattle, the Democrat party destroyed Seattle with BLM Antifa and Palestinian Jew haters. Here in Portland Oregon I grew up with Green Bay Packer Running Back Randall Woodfield. Woodfield would look up prior high school and college friends during off season for dating and serial killing.
I moved to the Seattle area in 1988 from Fort Worth, Texas. I had heard of the Green River killer. I remember driving along I think it was US 90 and I passed a green state sign on the roadway that said "Green River Ordinance Enforced". I thought it was some absurd attempt to get the killer to stop leaving bodies in that area. I would later learn it had to do with prohibiting door to door sales.
I remember reading a book on serial killers in 2000 right before I joined Navy, his case was the last entry in the book. Said cops suspected who did it but never had enough evidence to make an arrest. Then in late 2001 at meps I saw news flash, green river killed caught through DNA and I'm surprised remembering that book I read
It was a very tiny fine droplet of paint, that lead to the discovery who did it. I don’t recall all the details but that paint type was unique only to that manufacturer. And they narrowed it down getting employee records who had access to that paint from there.
Just because ridgeway is gone doesn't mean it's over. There are more of these sadistic psychopaths out there. Don't put yourself in an obvious dangerous situation. Prostitution is not only illegal it's also one of the most dangerous situations a person can put theirself in.
The word of The Lord is clear. Women, know your place. It is beside your husband. I pray you will be delivered from Satan's grip and unto Jesus Christ pur Lord Amen 🙏
@@eddiejames9827 yes I absolutely agree with you, they are ALSO someone’s daughter/mother etc. I should have been clearer in my initial post. But we don’t have to be something to someone to be someone ourselves. I say this because for those sad souls that have lost their way and have no one to grieve them… they are also worthy.
I have always told my children that evil does not look like what you think it looks like or what it's portrayed as on TV or in the movies evil is handsome, or pretty, affable and easy to talk to. My ability to recognize that evil in the smiling face of a kindly old man has saved my life and the life of my son from being dumped on the side of a railroad track like trash. Although I know I could never prove it there are other bodies out there on the side of those railroad tracks that did not or could not not recognize that evil.😔
“Serial killers don’t stop killing…” True, but the Grim Sleeper case taught us that they can stop for a LONG time, but never truly stop until dead or in jail. And it’s never a mannequin!
The Gary Ridgeway case was straight up incompetence. They said they were trying, but they weren’t. Gary Ridgeway could have been so easily busted with a few undercover cops. He picked up the girls from the same place and dumped their bodies around the same area. Uncover cops and some stakeouts would have saved so many lives.
They did use undercover cops. There was even a time Ridgway picked up an undercover and was arrested for it. Ridgway also didn't pick up all of his victims in the same area. And while there were clusters where he left victims, he spanned out, in some cases even going across state lines. There were actually multiple people who were considered strong suspects (Ridgway included). I highly recommend you read The Search for the Green River Killer to get a better idea of why the case was so difficult (pre-DNA forensics, at least).
@@JEM1989your absolutely right .. the guy is the stereotypical racist or gangmember(and no matter the skin color anyone of any variety can be a racist or gang member) ...as mentioned a couple cans short of a six pack 😂😂.
That which people overlook is the hatred that lies in the hearts of the loved ones of the killer's victims. I've seen one old feller forgive the killer and it was so inspiring that it brought the murderer to tears.That's how it should be.
The narrator keeps referring to the victims as “women”. Many of them were under 18. They were children. Unfortunately, abuse at home creates runaways. Runaways turn to prostitution as a means to make money. That does not mean they are not children. Underage, abused, runaway, desperate, children.
Thank you---- that was annoying me too and it's done a lot in crime stories---- it helps to _lessen_ the crime (apparently)---- cause if it's women, meh!!!!
Of the 49 known victims, 20 were under 18. Many were 15 and Wendy Stephens was 14. It is indeed bizarre that he is not regarded as a child killer, but a prostitute killer.
The second SK story sounds beyond surreal. It didn't matter who the victim was (family or stranger), reason for the murder (felt betrayed to an interacial relationship) or place (in the woods or near his home or prison). He was thief, rapist and murder. Three-time loser!
It really grates on me to hear him called "prolific". I usually associate the word with a great amount of work, like prolific authors and so forth. I think he should be called the "worst", not the most "prolific" it sounds like praise to my ears.
You're right. The way they buy in to this being some sort of competition - who can kill the most? Ridgway's "body count" is "unrivalled". There was one on Israel Keyes that was almost drooling at points. True crime still doesn't get it right.
These otherwise kind and hardworking detectives need to stop talking about female victims as "someone's mother/sister/daughter". They were someone in their own right, not just a family member to someone else.
You both need to shut up and stop being dumb. It’s not that deep. People have much stronger feelings for their mothers, daughters and sisters than strangers. They are just saying it’s tragic, that they are important. If your daughter was a victim you’d be crying for weeks. Because it’s a stranger, you’re not going to cry.
I've had many serial killers call me for my podcast. Robert Yates is someone who's going to come on soon and as I was talking to him the other day on the phone he told me when he used to be housed with Gary Ridgway. He told me the facility barely lets him talk to his own family or communicate with anybody on the outside.
I still freak out about this guy. I had my turn for a chance encounter. I knew I was in trouble the moment I closed the truck door. But it ends with him reaching for his gun and it hitting the back of the seat and falls out of his hand. He was still being weird and I kept getting louder and he knew in a moment he was going to have to fight for his life because I was going to be fighting for mine. I just thought he was some weirdo, it wasn't till years later that I found out who he was when I was getting ready for work and had the sound down so I didn't wake anybody. But I recognised him the moment they showed him being lead into a courtroom. He wasn't wearing his glasses, but I said to myself, "hey it's that weirdo". Later after I got off work he was on the evening news and this time he had his glasses on. I called it in on the night that it happened but only had a partial license plate. Don't believe the bullshit that he was killing prostitutes, I had gotten off work and was wearing waiter gear which included an apron, hardly what a prostitute would be wearing. I always wondered if anyone else escaped. But I'll never forget him. I was living in Federalway, Washington at the time, this was over 30 years ago.
It always amazes me how someone could have no problem taking people’s lives but will do anything to avoid the death penalty.
People say killers have no value for human life. I don't think that's true. If they didn't think life has value, they'd not go around taking it--you don't, for example, go around picking up and collecting things you don't think are valuable either. Rather, they enjoy the power that comes from taking lives. That's why they don't have a problem trying to get out of the death penalty, because it's another way for them to exert power or prevent someone else from having the same one they had had over so many others.
@@JD-gk7eh some good points…but maybe a caveat I see, is that they value life in a very different way. They don’t value the individual, the personhood, or anything about another…other than what the other provides for their self serving need. The women were outlets for his rage, objects used and not valued.
Yes, about the power. Absolutely.
I dunno I think they just don't want it to happen to them. Who would? Makes perfect sense!
I can see being "amazed' that someone could take so many lives for decades and go on living normally otherwise. Avoiding the death penalty is not amazing at all. Personal survival- no matter how moral a person is- is one of the strongest forces innate in most humans- or animals, for that matter.
You need to understand how their brains works in order to understand what motivates them. If you try to think about it in the ways that us with brains that aren’t psychopathic work then we would obviously never be able to make sense of it
This is how a true crime documentary is made, excellent narrator, all the relevant information and people involved.
no joke.!!!!!
With no mention of the little pyramid stones that linked so many of the murders.
May I know the name of the narrator?
Anything based on Ann Rule's research is bound to be top-notch. She was a Master at her craft. Growing up in the Pacific Northwest, we lived what she wrote. Brudos, Bundy and a whole lot more. So many places to dump bodies here.
"Crime Zone's" narrator is quite an eloquent story teller , also, btw; Telling the story, WELL, is a CRAFT but there are many SLOPPY story copyists...JUST FOR THE VIEWS. The ones that merely hijack video clips and then have nothing of merit to even say about what they've stolen are the WORST. We happen to like the narrators on "Forty-Eight Hours" -they'll never replace KENDRA btw...the New Detectives are pretty eloquent too.
It's sad to hear about someone who's trying to support their three children, whose been a victim of abuse-who thinks they HAVE to work as a prostitute; Seems that even fast food workers HIRING some of these mothers, sometimes show empathy for them...Surely it should be a last resort, and not a "way to work your way through college!"
I watched Ridgeway's court proceedings at my home in Massachusetts and was overwhelmed by Linda Rule's dad forgiving Ridgeway. That man had a great heart.
A better heart than I would have
I could never forgive if that was me.
WOW :( thats so sad
@GurovskiStop putting words in everyone's mouths. Some people can forgive & some can't. I remember a few things from this video, but the thing that stands out most is NOT Mr. Rule's forgiveness.
Loosing his daughter must’ve left him broken. Definitely showed how strong he is to put his faith in god above the hand he got dealt.
I cannot imagine how traumatized his ex wife must be. You can see that this is still so painful recounting it . I hope the families and she can find peace and healing .
I didn't realize until just now that my dad worked at the same plant as Ridgway in the early '80s, when the murders were taking place. It's crazy. I grew up hearing about these murders, but by the time he was caught and tried, I was an adult and had moved away from the area, so I didn't pay much attention.
Your dad is Gary Ridgway.
@@onewayturtles he worked there for a long time, it’s said that a lot of kenworth trucks were painted by him which is kinda crazy to think people even now are still driving trucks that he painted
His wife had so much pain in her eyes. My empathy goes out to her.
Hats off to the people that have to uncover these corpses..
U have to have nerves of steal
The greatest respect to u all..
I feel so sad for her. That poor woman
Empathy is not an adjective
@@malonielangthorne2848 here’s some of that attention you were looking for. Ooh wait, never mind. No one cares.
What is strange, is their meeting seemed to stop the murders for a while, tragically his seemingly genuine love for her, probably saved lives. The poor woman, what a horrible thing to live with, hopefully she saved some women in the period where the murders stopped.
All the tears and pain were not able to move Ridgeway. But forgiveness did. It was the only time you could see some emotion in him. That is powerful.
And I think what ppl don't understand, we have to forgive or we aren't forgiven. I'm sure ole Ridgeway realized if this guy could forgive him God could.. but hard to say bc you know.. he was just feeling sorry for himself🤷♀️ Anyways I was more worried about Bundy bc both myself & my BFF were straight up his type & the right age.. he just loved the good-hearted kinda gal✌🏼😎
With his father being hateful towards women I imagine he’s accustomed to hatred he can brush it off, what these killers aren’t used to is others humanizing them. They spend so much time dehumanizing their victims and everyone around them that at a certain point they end up dehumanizing themselves in a way and after so long being seen as a monster they aren’t used to forgiveness
@Angel-mi6qs The serial killers feel inhuman, in a sense, well before they dehumanize others via serial murder.
This story is tragic for everyone involved.
He did that so Ridgeway would remember his words, leading to them torturing Ridgeway for life, very psychological words that will play with his head
@rejaneflorinda6162 yes they did idk why people keep saying that. You can see in his face before the forgiving dude that he was actually starting to feel bad about what he did
I remember back in 2003 i was working right near Hwy167 (W. Valley Hwy.) and Willis St. Upon leaving the shop I was going to turn onto Willis St. as usual to head out for the day. There must have been 40 State Trooper, motorcycle Cops, unmarked detective vehicles etc. all lined along the road. The forensic paleontologists had their canopy tents up and sifting swings and the cadaver dogs working this small area about the size of a largish back yard. The grass is always 3 feet tall there. Turned out it was one of Ridgeway's victims lying 25 feet off the side of the road in that tall grass forever. I must have drove past that spot two or three times a day for a year never knowing, hiding right there 25 feet away in plain sight. Man, you want to talk about the creeps of reality. It still bothers me today, even just sharing this.
Damn, chilling, hidden in plain sight..
@@vf12497439go look for shallow depressions or places where the plants are growing much stronger than right nearby
That’s crazy man. Don’t have any guilt about not noticing or anything!
I had similar thoughts when Wesley Dodd was killing kids in Vancouver. I thought that I read his electric meter several times while he had killed people and wondered if other killers or future killers were ever near me. It’s creepy.
Yeah. They live among us.
When I was in the 8th grade there was a 6th grade girl that went missing. I didn't really know her. But, a few days later they found her body in a trash can in her neighborhood a few houses from her cousins. Now, I knew her cousins very well and would walk home with them every day. It was her neighbors family member that had killed her. I still get the creeps thinking about how many times I walked past that trash can in that short time..
the fact that Ted Bundy tried to help investigators catch the green river killer in the 80s adds such a fascinating layer to this story!
Only reason bundy did that was to get involved and to still feel a bit of power
@@KeshuvHuriaMusic bundy ? He was just playin’. Having fun getting involved and making fools of everyone -
I can't imagine the terror those young girls were going through. You know they had heard about all these bodies being found and then to find themselves in his clutches must have been horrific.
I like this judge making him face the families of his victims and allowing them to state their feelings. The one that hurt him most was the father telling him "I forgive you." That got to him.
I don't think people are will ever be able to fully put themselves into their shoes 😢 their terror will have been insurmountable.
My God,there were so many of them though, so so many, and probably many more we will never know about. Horrendous case 😢
@@hannahhopkinson9044Exactly my thoughts! That man had a wife and children but that didn’t mean anything to him! My how could a human being be so extremely cruel like that? It’s beyond my understanding. I feel very sorry for the families of all the young girls. I’d Never forgive it!!
I got moved by that too what an astonishing thing to do - it got to him when al others didn't seem to :/
Don't be Street Sxxxx
Don't be Street S****
43:43 , That Father saying, I forgive you, affected him worse than others saying they hated him. That fathers FAITH is strong. This story was Horrible. I can't imagine the fear they faced. I truly hope these families have found a way to heal.
. I know me 2😢
I think you are right. The effect on him was palpable. That cut him long, hard and deep.
No. That father’s judgement was twisted by brainwashing. The forgiveness God spoke of is not for raping babies and strangling children nor prostitutes. Forgiveness has boundaries. You do not have to stand up there and virtue signal to get respect. Just speak from the heart about your loss. Trust that God will do the rest. But believe it. Forgiveness will not be part of the judgement.
He may have told him he forgave him but I truly don’t believe that…..
@@cynthiageorge3029Then you don’t know jesus. Jesus can do the impossible.
This is truly insane.. this channels documentaries are always top notch 👌
I was a chauffeur in Olympia for a few years. Every time I went to Sea-Tac (the airport), I'd always go to the gas station right there at 176th and international Blvd (old 99). I could just feel the presence of all the victims of Gary Ridgway, as I drove south along the Blvd. It got so bad that I found a different route whenever I left the airport. Also, R. I. P. Ann Rule!
12:00 how can he be outsmarting the police when they had him, they visited him at his home - “there’s no one here” he said - they believed him and didn’t pursue the investigation????
That's the part that really stuck with me too. Just think about seeing your significant other in a vehicle kidnapped and following them and finding the vehicle and the house you no there in and the person you witnessed says no one's here and the police say okay and leave. The officer that went to that house that day is trash. I hope he thinks about that everyday
@@catladytx IKR?? I’d like to think they would have a conscience!!
@@catladytxI don't think she was kidnapped,she willingly went with him
Living in Seattle/Tacoma my entire life. First there was Bundy in the 70's but the GreenRiver killer was much more terrifying. I never thought he would of been caught. Thank God he finally was. Watching it unravel in real time was heartbreaking for all the families. I hope he is rotting where ever he is now. RIP to all the ladies🕯🕯🕯🕊🕊🕊
This comment touched me
I'm in VA. This case was what made me starte watching . Reading and studing serials
I read anything I could find on Ridgeway
I also didn't think they could catch up to him
I started praying and praying over this
It broke my heart tht so many families were hurting.
I wanted to watch his full court procedures but I never could find that.. don't know why they won't release that info and his full interigati9ns.
I'm so sorry the folks living out there was terrorized that way
I hope you are ok all of yall. I'd have been a nervous wreck. Respect from Va.
I grew up in Wichita, KS during the BTK murders.. its affected me my whole life! Hugs!
@lindaarrington9397 thank you so much. I want to say there wasn't a trial he just plead guilty. And didn't pass GO. Just went straight to jail. He is what a monster is!!!
@chrissieroxba2949 oh I totally can relate. During the Bundy yrs, my mom wouldn't let us play in our front yard or ride our bikes. It's like we were on lock down.
@@chrissyknowsitall5170Well, for good reason. That must have been terrifying, living life as that was all going on. Hugs.
As someone from the south hearing an accent come out of his daughters mouth that sounds like a lot of my family members just sends chills. The way she calls him “daddy” is such a wholesome Deep South colloquialism so juxtapositioned against the fact she’s talking about the atrocities he did while interspersing a term of endearment is just chilling.
Linda's father is truly someone to admire, he even made a psychopath shed tears and feel sorry for himself and perhaps even regret it just a little bit like a normal human being, forgiveness is so hard to truly achieve, yet so powerful
Why does the father making the killer cry such a big deal to so many people? Why is “forgiveness “ for this murderer the biggest deal? I feel it comes less from “Christianity” than the fact that you don’t care about the lives of these victims. They weren’t real victims to you so his “conversion “ is more important.
That was quite powerful.
I hope it made Ridgeway feel some remorse. But I can’t help feel that it’s not the father’s place to forgive him, because he wasn’t the one killed.
Psychopaths have no capacity to feel empathy they just can’t. He was definitely not feeling anything . Probably” it “was thinking that is what a normal human would do and managed to cry out of shame. They are barely human beings and most of them are in power and in finance only a small percentage kills
He has no right to forgive the murderer. The crime was done against someone else.
Hearing that victim's dad give him forgiveness....and seeing his daughter's killer crumble like that.....my god. I got chills. That was POWERFUL. It was like with a word, he became undone. It was over.
God is power. Only He can truly move anyone or anything
The capacity for depravity within the human psyche is scary
Yep, surrendering to the deranged compulsions and succumbing to the influences of the darkest temptations is the inherent trait of the weak flesh.
A human is the most evil creature in the planet meanest to
Truly....
In the male psyche*
@@grrrrbabyverygrrr8165 Cause woman are not capable of comitting crime. 😂😂😂
Good to see Ann Rule a great crime writer. The author of many great books. My favorite was the want ad killer. RIP Ann. You know this is gonna be good with her on it.
This psychopath passed several lie detector tests. That's why their results should be taken very lightly. Obviously. This book by Ann Rule, Green River Running Red, was absolutely one of my favorites.
yes the tests can be beaten but they can often tell when someone is being deceitful of course if lying doesn’t affect you neurologically or physically the test isn’t gonna detect what isn’t there.
@@bloodaonadeline8346 They're also so unreliable it's basically pseudoscience. It's more of an intimidation tactic than a way to discover the truth.
Psychopathy comes from sociopathy.. even sociopaths who don't commit crimes can't pass them bc of the very nature of sociopathy🤷♀️ so read up on that so you understand what Im saying✌🏼
polygraphs are junk pseudoscience. The only real use they have is as plot devices in tv shows/movies. They are not a real thing.
That's why they are not admissible in court. Guilty can pass, innocent can fail. It's junk science, but an investigative tool nonetheless.
I lived in Greenwater as a kid, a small mountain town through which the Green River flows. I was under 10yrs old but I recall peering up and down the river banks to make sure there were no dead people or serial killers before I went for my swim!
That's horrible. When the Atlanta Child Murderer was still active, I remember always being terrified of strangers.
@@shaggyrumplenutz1610 Well I hope that didn't stay with you for too long. Was that killer ever caught? I don't recall that story if I've heard it. As for me, It's more scary to look back on I think, remembering what an ignorant little child I was, having no real idea the horrors some people are capable of inflicting on others. I knew about the things going on, but without a real understanding of what that meant. Sure I peeked up and down the river for serial killers, but what on earth was I gonna do if I saw one, half a mile from home at a secluded, wooded, river bend?! /facepalm
@Levikarose79 yeah, they caught him. His name is Wayne Williams.
He wasn't outsmarting homicide detectives. Total incompetence that the family found the van the girl was in, and they let it drop.
Spoken like a true serial killer mother in the making
Look at the mothers of serial killers
The cops were letting him get away with it because the victims were criminals
@adamirishconundrum851 Yeah, their prejudice caused some real reluctance. Luckily wiser heads eventually came into leadership. The early failures changed how King Co. approached cases like this.
How dare you say such disgusting hate speech. And RUclips allows this kind of comment?!?!
That's how I felt when I saw that too.
This is the first RUclips channel I’ve actually tuned back into my video I had previously started watching. Well made. 🇺🇸
If the first police had just followed up with the pick-up truck, many lives may have been saved.
They did follow up. They went to the house. Sorry but we're not letting the govt run rampant in our homes. I know women get emotional and throw logic out the window , but the govt is prevented from doing such things for a reason. It's to protect all of us from the govt. Yes I'd like if they had caught him that day too, but they have no grounds for just coming in your home. Imagine if someone says you're holding someone in your home and the cops come in . Dump out all your cereal and pasta boxes , throwing it all on the floor, cutting open your furniture, dumping all your dressers , cutting your mattresses. And just overall trashing everything in your home... thats what they do when the come in peoples homes. Even opening holes in walls sometimes. All without any compensation to fix damages or the emotional distress. Keep in mind, all your neighbors see the 10 cop cars and flashing lights , the whole community knows. Youre assuled guilty off public rumors... Just cause someone says you did something , doesnt give the cops or govt the ability to do what you think they should be able to. On top of all that, there's no way of knowing if she was even still there when the cop knocked at the door
That was so negligent!
I don't understand the family - I would have barged in if I thought my daughter was in that house.
@@springlockedmaker Me too and took the risk of arrest.
A stakeout could have saved dozens of lives, who were those two stupid cops that talked to Ridgeway
The second story - my word… she was way too chill. “He raped the baby and bashed its head in with a hatchet”, then she talked about him (“ma daddy”) like he was just a scamp doing silly stuff. I hope it’s a coping mechanism of some sort.
Agreed 😵💫😳
He probably treated her like a princess!! Honestly..
She really pissed me off, talking about her daddy like she is proud of him
Obviously she disassociates with it thru verbalization
Apples don't fall far from the tree. The creepy daughter has the same genes as her psychopath father. She is a digusting creature.
It is beyond comprehensible that people are capable of such horrors upon others - human or animal! So sick - it's scary as hell!+
I read the book about Pee Wee Gaskins and this video just touched on his crimes. He used to fill his victims with molten lead in all their orifices why they were still alive.Truly horrific.
It’s not surprising Netflix as brainwashing people into accepting violence and other acts as normal when in more censorship when it comes to violent act on Netflix and other apps
Nah, it's comprehensible. What's truly remarkable is the level of compassion and forgiveness shown by that father.
@@TraceyDevine-bo1kpDid he? Wow... 🤮
Unfortunately, that's how some folks get their kicks. Hard thing for a normal person to relate to
At the same time the Green River killings were happening in Seattle area, Robert Hansen was killing women in Anchorage....he owned a bakery and would fly the women out of town and hunt them down...i was a young kid when that happened...scary.
I watched a couple movies about that, one with John Cusack it was frightening.
I remember occasionally driving on Highway 99 past the airport in the 1980's and seeing the scantily clad girls standing out by the edge of the road, waiting for customers, and hoping they wouldn't become a victim of the Green River killer, even though I didn't know his moniker at that time. So many girls, so many young lives......why he wasn't given the death penalty is beyond me.
I met Gary and a friend of his at a bar I went to. I once followed them both to his friends house and bought something and he lived right off military Road close to his dumping place. His buddy carried a pistol in his back side where your crack is and seen it because he was heavy and when he reached forward you could see it .I have always thought his friend was in on it, because of where he lived.Gary at the bar was always pleasant and smiling , but who knew he was this sick man after he left .i knew of a real pretty girl who worked in the same plant he did and omg how lucky she was.
As far as I know, all of his victims were prostitutes.
Still, I'm sure it was a terrifying revelation to be a woman and to have associated with Ridgway in any way.
My heart breaks for the young women who were such victims of child abuse and neglect.💔
So it is messed up that girls become prostitutes, no doubt, but are you saying that you feel sooty because they were abused and that’s why they get into this kind of lifestyle?🤔🤔
You mean the dudes. Wake up.
@@teresalacaze9241 would you wanna make out to the long version of this song ? Please lmk 🤍✨
Ann Rule was an amazing human being. R.I.P Ann Rule gone but never forgotten.
Who?
She died in 2015.
Yes, great author ❤️❤️ feel like I know her from how many books I've read by her
@@beckyboo1433 Same here and she used to be a 👮 officer herself.
@@beckyboo1433 fancy seeing you!!! What a great documentary!!
2:48 Thank you, Detective for your service to bring justice to this evil entity. I am so apologetic for your past & it’s poignant that you grew up to see JUST IS SERVED!! 💛
I've been disappointed and bullied throughout life. Mistreated and abused also. Would not dream of any violence towards a soul. No bloody excuse. At all. He is mad
Amen!!.....Same here!!!
Same here 🤠
I hope your life is fantastic now. Best wishes for a wonderful future,
You should do an episode on the Atlanta child murder that case happened in the late 70s early 80s blew my mind
Was never aware of that case, must check it out, or maybe I shouldn't, anything to do with kids very tough watch
@@MarkOrourke-rh5fu yes it was he also kill adults to and he threw the victims in the river so check it out
@@sarahconn3285 thanks Sarah gonna search for it next now , appreciate it..
@@MarkOrourke-rh5fu welcome
There are videos on RUclips already.
I think the daughter knew more back then than she admits. She knew people were disappearing yet did nothing. She describes him raping a baby like it’s nothing. No emotion at all. Idk just very odd.
I think I'm more traumatized by her than anything, his daughter.
SO TRUE. She expressed more emotion over her friend being killed than the sexual assault, hacking, and killing of that TODDLER. That is very sick.
Lets all agree shes not in her right mind. Shes like a child
Which one are you talking about?
@@Screaminchief55 the 2nd account..., PeeWee's daughter
I lived close to where Gary Ridgeway worked when arrested. For years women in that area were filled with fear and so relieved when the case was finally solved.
Maybe the women in that area shouldn’t be involved in high risk behaviors if they didn’t want to be a victim.
But he's scared to die. What a sick insane coward.
The guy who forgave him proved that forgiveness is the best weapon against any form of evil!
It may be a powerful psychological tool to process and live with the grief and ramifications of having a loved one murdered, but its not really a weapon against evil. Forgiveness didn't stop the killing from happening and doesn't do anything about Gary killing again. Incarcerating him stopped him killing whether anyone forgave him or not.
@dmichael100 Agreed . Everyone has their faith, I'm not here to knock it. It just seems to me that people take " God forgives " to such drastic extremes. Maybe it's a way to make ourselves feel better about living amongst all this evil. Just my opinion. I don't know the right way , if there is such a thing . I'm not God . But I pray for his victims and their families. I couldn't care less about someone like him who causes this much pain .
He did that so Ridgeway would remember his words, leading to them torturing Ridgeway for life, very psychological words that will play with his head
He did that so Ridgeway would remember his words, leading to them torturing Ridgeway for life, very psychological words that will play with his head
I swear to Zeus and Ra and Wankan Tanka, Odin, and Altijera I believe you are all dead in the imaginations of people. Slowly by slowly Science proves the Bible is man made, ego driven, fairy tales.
To this day my mother is afraid to drive past the green river even though Gary Ridgeway has been in prison since 2001. I cant imagine how shaken the actual towns people are having lived through this.
I used to live up the hill from the green river.
I would get that eerie feeling whenever I drove by.
That area in general was never a good area, there were other bodies being found there unrelated to the green river killer.
My sister once told me that she lacked the compassion gene. I said "Do you love your kids? Would you do anything for them if they were hurt or needed you?". She said yes. So I replied "You have compassion, you just chose not to use it when it comes to other people. You use that excuse to give you permission to treat others any way you want. You use that excuse to push people away, to protect yourself from being hurt."
That daughter is nearly as nuts as the father
She seems proud of her dad.
She's definitely a couple of sandwiches she of a picnic.
Maybe he was
@@alfiesdad4757maybe he was to her. But idk if i could ever speak to my dad if he did all these things
The ROTTEN apple doesn't fall far from the tree. DISGUSTING.... with a sick, twisted smirk on her face.
I knew a guy that looks so much like him and, oddly enough, worked as an automotive painter. He was very strange and used to say crazy things. He hold a box cutter and say " it only takes this much of a blade to kill a man." I believe it was in the early 90s
They say their is power in forgiveness. You can feel the power of this poor fathers words as he forgives and see the exact moment they touched Ridgway in a way no hateful or unforgiven words could!! That is power. I understand the families who couldn't or wouldn't but watching that made me feel something that hate has never been able to do.
Amen!
Brilliantly produced
Some of his daughters comments were very disturbing.
I feel like she's so desensitised to the horrific things as being almost normal because she knew her dad as a kind man to her so she knows how bad the things he did were but mentally it's like a different person or just a story she read not someone who she loves. The trauma has got to have messed up her brain!
I agree. I often had the feeling she was proud of her "Daddy". She honestly gave me shivers.
Omg me too! Instantly i thought omfg she's proud of her father!@waternineeightlotus2869
@@neversawyours is one of the most aware, connecting the dots, comments I’ve seen.
I’ve studied trauma, intergenerational trauma, attachment theory, CPTSD, and more…and so many are clueless and making the most ignorant comments.
I’m so glad you get it
Yeah she looks off herself, who knows she could’ve followed his steps the way she was praising him had he not got caught.
They made a movie type of documentary about the Green River Killer on Tubi TV, and it was a captivating and powerful movie. Law enforcement was about to give up on trying to catch the serial killer except for one determined Deputy who was the one who ended up solving the case and catching Gary Ridgeway, and it was an overlooked detail and statement made by a young lady about a scratch she left on Gary's arm that he covered up by pouring acid on it, and is what lead to the Deputy solving the case after almost two decades, and Gary even fooled his own wife who didn't have a clue about his horrific and evil behavior, and I don't care if his victims were prostitutes nobody deserves to die and be murdered the way Gary did to these ladies.
why would you say ' I don't care if his victims were prostitutes ' - reconsider your use of language
@@antiochiaadtaurum3786: It shouldn't matter what kind of lifestyles ppl lead nobody deserves to be raped and murdered is the point I was trying to make that everyone seemed to get.
@derekbaker him and ted bundy operated on same patch ted bundy also was offered a plea deal life with out parole he did not want the deal because he genuinely thought he would get off
@@derekbaker777 there’s a series called death row stories with a German bloke and he did a lot of interviews with inmates on Texas males on death row “before their scheduled execution “…a lot get their lawyers to go to court/supreme courts to get a stay for this that and the 3rd saying lethal injection protocol with the drugs is cruel unusual punishment im sorry what about their victims why should they be able to fall asleep have a peaceful execution no I’m sorry there was alot of said botched executions and I am sorry there is no such thing as a botched execution
She made the statement that not even prostitutes deserve to die because sadly there are people out here who think these women should be fair game for those willing to murder.
I'm praying for the victims,their families and friends. I love and appreciate Faye and Dave Reichert ,they're amazing. They never gave up on these women.
Well after the people are dead, there’s no sense at all praying for them, it’s too late for that. Now as far as praying for family members or friends, that’s a little different. And what exactly are you going to pray for them?
Gary Ridgeway and Dennis Raider were so similar in what they did, that many people thought they were the same dude.
@@dr.zippymcscoots8725 agreed!
How were they similar?
Only similarity they had was they were very devoted to church.
It amazes me that these serial killers can lead normal lives and have families.
@kellyanderson7624 me too ,it's unbelievable
I counted 52 Ma Daddie's. I could be out by a hundred though.
😂😂😂
Ma Daddy said its worms in the water
Vulnerable young teenagers and women are still going missing... there are still SK's out there.
FBI estimate there are currently 60 active SKs in the US.
Crazy they can't find them given modern day technology and DNA cameras etc aswell.
"The wages of sin is death." Romans 6:23
@@TransoceanicOutreachthere's more than that if you add the trucker's that are doing the same thing. They estimated around 250 that pick up the girls in one state and dump their bodies in another making it almost impossible to identify the remains.
@@DTM93that's how they just got LISK, he threw away his pizza crusts in a trashcan in the middle of Manhattan. They also matched his wife's hair to a strand found on a victim.
Wow, maybe you could put in fifteen more ads, because thirty just isn’t enough.
Buy You Tube premium and you'll never see an ad.
Worse than tv.
Get RUclips premium…It’s really cheap. NO ads hehe
Ad free for me. There are ad free RUclips apps you can get for free.
Brave browser on android, opera on ios, and ublock origin on windows. Simple. I haven't seen a youtube ad in like 10 years
Cannot put into words on how I felt at the end of the Pewe Gaskin story. That poor daughter of his loves him still dearly
The wife and everyone who knew him talks about how normal and meek he was. I guess that’s why he went so long undetected. No one would have even thought he was capable.
It’s never a mannequin
Sometimes a labrador is just a golden retriever. And sometimes, a mannequin is just a mannequin
Everytime I watch one of these shows and they say "they thought it was a mannequin" I end up singing "it's never a mannequin" in an array of tunes because it's said so often
In my hometown a couple of teens were stealing mannequins and wrapping them in clear plastic with duct tape where the mouth was and fake blood all over them. Some were left in woods some were left on creek banks and some were weighted down and put in the creeks. It was hilarious and creepy at the same time
@Gurovski teenagers and their pranks I guess
it's usually a womannequin
They happen to be everywhere. I personally lived in Oak Harbor, WA, in the 60'. Went to Jr high school and high school with another one of your serial killers, Robert Yates. Later moved to Southern California and came in contact with another one of them. Gerald Parker, who's on death row in San Quinton. Had a roommate in Southern California who had contact with another serial killer as a 12, year old. The individual there name was William Bonin. He happened to be the first individual executed by lethal injection. Like i said, these individuals are more common than you think.
Scary!
Oh my !
My deepest condolences go out to all of the victims of this evil man, Gary Ridgeway, I pray that all of these souls are all now at peace.😢
Watching that green river killer documentary and seeing how horrific his killing spree was it made me realise how lucky I am to have the best dad on the planet and a man who has looked after me and my mum my entire life .....r.i.p to all those victims of his atrocities and I hope the families managed to find some solace after he was captured and thrown in prison for the rest of his life...respect to all the victims and their families
Its so fascinating and crazy how killers can remain in that frame of mind for hours or days . Most people even when striking out with fury when upset it only last a few seconds or milliseconds, then we are over it . Its out and gone . Its difficult to understand how someone can be in that dark zone for so long in order to brutalize a human like that
That is Disgusting when that Guy Said "You will be forgiven." That's a problem in society right there! No he will not be forgiven. If everyone was forgiven for their terrible acts - than this world would be even worse than it is!
They focused on his mother but he also had an unhealthy relationship with his father. Homemade depravity!
I think the same way
His parents twisted his mind
That's 5 sure
But I also think he had this evil in him
Born bad.
He had a " dead mother" complex. His relationship with his mother defined who he became.
@@melisentiapheiffer3034Way to massively downplay his father calling women whores and taking him with to his prostitute excursions. He wouldn’t hate women without his dad putting those thoughts into his head!
Yeah, it's always mum's fault .... NOT
@@judepower4425 I'm not saying it's ALL mom's. Don't be thick!
As a true crime fan the footage of him on expedition to sites is very intriguing
I feel so much grief and sadness for his wife. It’s so so tragic for her!
Washington State and Serial Killers go together like Apple Pie & Ice cream
Something in the water... imagine the mental issues they had , or the experiences that caused them to enact such a life. I dont believe people are born as such. If you go with that idea, born as serial killers, then everyone is capable. Human nature allows for self preservation and narcissism in every person, and circumstance could allow for all , especially males, to follow such a path. Women are less likely, obviously. But I think its young age and adolescent experience that caused these people to grow up to this lifestyle. Weird mommy -child dynamic, or a absent dad , paired with abuse
How in the holy FnCK could the police not associate all of these missing people with Gaskins?? Many were close relations!! And the daughter knew of people coming to their house but never being seen again??? A lot of blood on the police and daughter’s hands.
She was child and probably brainwashed by him.
That daughter of Gaskin shouldn't be given any attention. She's one of the most disturbing person I've ever seen.
Just a typical inbred Appalachia type...
agreed
She is repulsive and exploits her vile father for her own gain. Her using 'half pint' and 'daddy' and her murder tour are truly the lowest class thing i have seen.
Judith seems like the sweetest woman. So sincere. My heart breaks for her. So many victims.
Real Stories has always been my fav.
Fun fact: The lead detective that caught the Green River Killer is the frontrunner in the polls to become governor of Washington this November.
Reichert was a good detective. He's a bit of a git, otherwise.
@@rachael_grey Reichert is a Republican. Truck Painter Gary Ridgeway did not destroy Seattle, the Democrat party destroyed Seattle with BLM Antifa and Palestinian Jew haters. Here in Portland Oregon I grew up with Green Bay Packer Running Back Randall Woodfield. Woodfield would look up prior high school and college friends during off season for dating and serial killing.
Gov Insleez was the pile that removed the D penalty in WA.
Saving the lives of convicted Serials in WA. On the tax payers dime.
Washington loves democrats and chaos to much to vote republican.
Ann Rule is by far my favourite true crime writer.
This one blows my mind ..
Sad times for sure x
I moved to the Seattle area in 1988 from Fort Worth, Texas. I had heard of the Green River killer. I remember driving along I think it was US 90 and I passed a green state sign on the roadway that said "Green River Ordinance Enforced". I thought it was some absurd attempt to get the killer to stop leaving bodies in that area. I would later learn it had to do with prohibiting door to door sales.
The second story honestly made me feel sick
I remember reading a book on serial killers in 2000 right before I joined Navy, his case was the last entry in the book. Said cops suspected who did it but never had enough evidence to make an arrest. Then in late 2001 at meps I saw news flash, green river killed caught through DNA and I'm surprised remembering that book I read
It was a very tiny fine droplet of paint, that lead to the discovery who did it. I don’t recall all the details but that paint type was unique only to that manufacturer. And they narrowed it down getting employee records who had access to that paint from there.
Just because ridgeway is gone doesn't mean it's over. There are more of these sadistic psychopaths out there. Don't put yourself in an obvious dangerous situation. Prostitution is not only illegal it's also one of the most dangerous situations a person can put theirself in.
It's dangerous because it is illegal, and forced into the black market Countries with legalized and regulated prostitution don't have these problems.
Obvious danger???
@@amymiller4931 Being a prostitute is putting yourself in obvious danger.
Why are these girls references as ‘someone’s daughter’ or ‘someone’s sister’. They are SOMEONE in and of themselves
The word of The Lord is clear. Women, know your place. It is beside your husband. I pray you will be delivered from Satan's grip and unto Jesus Christ pur Lord Amen 🙏
Well, they were someone's daughters, sisters, and mothers. Regardless of the life they were living, there were people who loved them.
@@eddiejames9827 yes I absolutely agree with you, they are ALSO someone’s daughter/mother etc. I should have been clearer in my initial post. But we don’t have to be something to someone to be someone ourselves. I say this because for those sad souls that have lost their way and have no one to grieve them… they are also worthy.
@@marcomoreno6748 yeah nah!!! My place is where I want it to be. ALONGSIDE my husband is one of those places. But I’ll decide. Thanks
@marcomoreno6748 dude shut up. How about know your own place, which isn't telling the rest of us how to live our lives.
I have always told my children that evil does not look like what you think it looks like or what it's portrayed as on TV or in the movies evil is handsome, or pretty, affable and easy to talk to. My ability to recognize that evil in the smiling face of a kindly old man has saved my life and the life of my son from being dumped on the side of a railroad track like trash. Although I know I could never prove it there are other bodies out there on the side of those railroad tracks that did not or could not not recognize that evil.😔
“Serial killers don’t stop killing…” True, but the Grim Sleeper case taught us that they can stop for a LONG time, but never truly stop until dead or in jail. And it’s never a mannequin!
😢😢😢REST IN PEACE ANN RULE..THANK YOU FOR WRITING ABOUT ALL THE CRIMES YOU COVERED AND HELPED SOLVE..
EVEN SCARIER I WAS RUNNING FROM MY HUSBAND..I HUNG OUT AND SLEPT IN MY CAR IN THAT AREA..
John Ritter would've been the perfect cast for the Green River Killer
Died too young. Great actor. RIP
thank you to the loyal, beautiful, strong black woman who saw these victims as PEOPLE. we NEED more people like HER around❤❤❤
When the wife asked “what was real?” concerning their relationship - I think anyone who has been betrayed by a spouse, asks the same thing.
20 minutes in and this is an excellent documentary
The Gary Ridgeway case was straight up incompetence.
They said they were trying, but they weren’t.
Gary Ridgeway could have been so easily busted with a few undercover cops.
He picked up the girls from the same place and dumped their bodies around the same area.
Uncover cops and some stakeouts would have saved so many lives.
They did use undercover cops. There was even a time Ridgway picked up an undercover and was arrested for it.
Ridgway also didn't pick up all of his victims in the same area. And while there were clusters where he left victims, he spanned out, in some cases even going across state lines.
There were actually multiple people who were considered strong suspects (Ridgway included).
I highly recommend you read The Search for the Green River Killer to get a better idea of why the case was so difficult (pre-DNA forensics, at least).
My prayers and thoughts art with all the families that lost loved ones by this sick monster and my Prayers are this 3rd wife also🙏❤️🙏 18:15
Shirley Gaskins strikes me as many crayons short of a full box.
not trying to be rude or smart a$$ but I mean, Look at her father. You cant be right with a sire like that
Her elevator doesn't go to the top!
@@JEM1989your absolutely right .. the guy is the stereotypical racist or gangmember(and no matter the skin color anyone of any variety can be a racist or gang member) ...as mentioned a couple cans short of a six pack 😂😂.
Simple people with simple minds.
That which people overlook is the hatred that lies in the hearts of the loved ones of the killer's victims. I've seen one old feller forgive the killer and it was so inspiring that it brought the murderer to tears.That's how it should be.
Love the narrator
He's definitely the best
The narrator keeps referring to the victims as “women”. Many of them were under 18. They were children. Unfortunately, abuse at home creates runaways. Runaways turn to prostitution as a means to make money. That does not mean they are not children. Underage, abused, runaway, desperate, children.
Thank you---- that was annoying me too and it's done a lot in crime stories---- it helps to _lessen_ the crime (apparently)---- cause if it's women, meh!!!!
Of the 49 known victims, 20 were under 18. Many were 15 and Wendy Stephens was 14. It is indeed bizarre that he is not regarded as a child killer, but a prostitute killer.
The second SK story sounds beyond surreal. It didn't matter who the victim was (family or stranger), reason for the murder (felt betrayed to an interacial relationship) or place (in the woods or near his home or prison). He was thief, rapist and murder. Three-time loser!
It really grates on me to hear him called "prolific". I usually associate the word with a great amount of work, like prolific authors and so forth. I think he should be called the "worst", not the most "prolific" it sounds like praise to my ears.
You're right. The way they buy in to this being some sort of competition - who can kill the most? Ridgway's "body count" is "unrivalled". There was one on Israel Keyes that was almost drooling at points. True crime still doesn't get it right.
I just moved to Seattle and all of sudden I'm getting all these serial killer docs. WTF Seattle
They want to scare you out of Seattle or maybe to make you vigilant 😂
you know his brain is wired differently when taking a lie detector test he passed when asked if he killed these women.
Learned to lie well
These otherwise kind and hardworking detectives need to stop talking about female victims as "someone's mother/sister/daughter". They were someone in their own right, not just a family member to someone else.
Exactly. They talk as if they weren't someone's mother/sister/daughter they wouldn't matter at all.
You both need to shut up and stop being dumb. It’s not that deep. People have much stronger feelings for their mothers, daughters and sisters than strangers. They are just saying it’s tragic, that they are important. If your daughter was a victim you’d be crying for weeks. Because it’s a stranger, you’re not going to cry.
Sometimes I think im crazy, then I see these crime documentaries and I think "nah, im not crazy." People are messed up
Very sad for these families the pain in their faces.
he gives me the chills
I've had many serial killers call me for my podcast. Robert Yates is someone who's going to come on soon and as I was talking to him the other day on the phone he told me when he used to be housed with Gary Ridgway. He told me the facility barely lets him talk to his own family or communicate with anybody on the outside.
I still freak out about this guy. I had my turn for a chance encounter. I knew I was in trouble the moment I closed the truck door. But it ends with him reaching for his gun and it hitting the back of the seat and falls out of his hand. He was still being weird and I kept getting louder and he knew in a moment he was going to have to fight for his life because I was going to be fighting for mine. I just thought he was some weirdo, it wasn't till years later that I found out who he was when I was getting ready for work and had the sound down so I didn't wake anybody. But I recognised him the moment they showed him being lead into a courtroom. He wasn't wearing his glasses, but I said to myself, "hey it's that weirdo". Later after I got off work he was on the evening news and this time he had his glasses on. I called it in on the night that it happened but only had a partial license plate. Don't believe the bullshit that he was killing prostitutes, I had gotten off work and was wearing waiter gear which included an apron, hardly what a prostitute would be wearing. I always wondered if anyone else escaped. But I'll never forget him. I was living in Federalway, Washington at the time, this was over 30 years ago.
Why wasn't Sheriff Dave Reichert shown? He helped capture Gary Ridgeway.