@@kellyshomemadekitchen hi how are yu I hope yur well thanks for yur comment ie and what was strange some of his victims were not prostitutes some serial killers have sex with victims but he didn't
@@michaeldevaney5728 right. It was like he couldn’t hold himself back from killing them right away or attempting to in some cases. However, one thing this documentary does not mention is the fact that he wore a v-neck sweater under his trousers (no underwear) in order to have “easy access” to masturbate over his victims’ bodies after he killed them. As if he hadn’t already disrespected them enough! What a sicko!
Yes except for the fact that Sutcliffe was a copycat killer framed as the Ripper by police who screwed up the investigation and let the Real Ripper get away to kill again.
Rather unfortunate choice of words "Killing innocent women instead of prostitutes." Methinks prostitutes are also 'innocent' against being murdered. In fact innocent in general.
#PilettaDoinswartsh You've obviously missed the well-made PBS docs in USA, and perhaps you have a bias against Americans - but surely all that matters is keeping this from becoming a story about the killer. #RIPVictims
@Olwen Morgan Perhaps, and we certainly admire BBC for their masterful contributions to the genre, still with the ad-free public service broadcast like PBS, geared to quality in the TV wasteland, we can be just as proud of ourselves here.
@@Ptinski YOU obviously don't get it. The statement was made as a genetalization!! Nobody could POSSIBLY view EVERY documentary concerning a certain subject...........
Hey not all of us are bad . But you are completely correct about our documentaries they have become completely crap . I didn't ask to be born American.
I agree completely. I especially like how they don’t show the same scene or comment multiple times. Just a very good flow of information. And lastly, I could listen to this narrator all day.
Except for the few very important matters that were left out. They didn't give any information about the copycat killer known to be involved, also they knew there were two killers involved in the murders and they dont explain or even know why sutcliffe was eliminated so many times.
Yes, she could do ASMR videos. I literally fell asleep during this show. Despite the disturbing content, her voice soothed me to sleep. She could probably read an autopsy transcript & I'd fall fast asleep!
One of which is short clip of a film location which was used in at least 3 fictional drama productions, and doesn't exist anymore. It's possible they used interior footage too, but trying to find photos or videos from inside the building before it was demolished isn't going well. People only seem to have photos and videos of the outside of the building, and which are usually from the same 2 angles. No-one seems to have taken any footage of the other side of the building.
A prostitute is a person. A prostitute is a person;s daughter; mother and so forth. People judge sex workers well if there was not a demand for it; then would they be there? There are many sex workers of whom are forced to conduct this post as a way of survival. It is the person looking for it thay should be judged.
When it comes to crime documentaries, this one always stands out to me. The music and narration is unsettling and you get a sense of how brutal Sutcliffe was. In terms of atmosphere, this is such a good documentary. It’s showing it’s age a little now but it’s still the best documentary about the Ripper I’ve ever seen.
People believe that sutcliffe was the ripper because that's what they want to believe. They are willing to ignore all the evidence that he was a copycat killer framed as the ripper by lying cops.
A masterpiece of a documentary. The writer had voice like silk and her perfect internation wasn’t overly dramatised. Loved the Erie flute very under stated. It was very factual and not in the least bit manipulative or sensational unlike the drivel you get today. As somebody who is registered blind, I have no need to watch the video I could listen to it on the narrative was throwing an interrupted, and there was so much dialogue that you could follow all the way through.
@@MizzMetallikat76 It doesn't matter. I was involved in creating videos for companies. We had some great narrators on our books. Narration makes such a difference to the message being sent. I was chosen to narrate 2 videos we created for clients. When we presented the finished item to clients, they were very impressed. We hired a well known actor for one narration, but the result was awful. He acted the role instead of taking himself out of the story. We found a replacement but still had to pay the actor. It is a surprisingly difficult job being a narrator.
Still , I've watched numerous of the savile documentaries multiple times and watch as u say routinely so guess that's no different..wonder why we find them fascinating ? It's obv that gallows thing.. I'm a normal person and not into stuff savile was and I'm guessing u have no interest in killing women ?
@@Sol-Cutta I have same question for Errol Kim too. Once is enough, unless one is using it for criminal studies or fall asleep several times like me and need to watch some of it again. I lived through those times and it was scary for everyone. Sutcliff was a evil nutter
@@life107familyfitnessboxing8 true true , seems odd u would watch something so horrid to our lives, again and again for vivacious recreation. Not sure where that puts one's mind. If it's a element of fascintaion in the police methods and that side of things then I suppose that's ok and the original thread commentator guy wrote awful crimes and r.i.p victims so I guess that suggests he's not watching it getting a thrill from the death and suffering of others. if it is getting a thrill then that is sick and troublesome.
Dick Holland (also featured in this) dismissed him totally - problem was him and Oldfield were frankly a bit thick, which is why it went on for so long. Holland also had a long record of fitting people up. His son has recently gone to prison over drug dealing too.
@@Dessan01 What amazes me about Holland is that even here he went "he had CLEARLY mistaken the girl for a prostitute". Despite the fact they failed to catch the killer for so long precisely due to the fact they had assumed he targeted prostitutes only and thus failed to see the bigger picture and make the connection with other cases. He... really learned nothing, did he.
@@alessandrapacelli9374 The problem is that the police forces nowdays give too much weight to the suspect profiling. You hear it in criminal case documentaries time and time again: "criminals don't change their established modus operandi". And so once they encounter something different they almost automatically dismiss the possibility that it could have been the work of the same person and they look for someone else. Yes, human beings are creatures of habit but we aren't robots. We can evolve in our aims and methods. And this case is a good example of that. He at first targetted the prostitutes but then he broadened the scope of his victims to women in general, no matter of age or occupation.
Yes RIP Andrew Laptew. The first man to name Sutcliffe as the likely YR. If they had listened to him 4 or 5 victims would have survived. Mr Laptew was a good Policeman and a good man.
The cops who caught both of these cult heros were just average cops . Below average . Street bums who respond to domestic calls. Fuck the cops and their investigation on me !
what's good about this doc is it doesn't sensationalize the events, which is both the right thing to do with respect to the victims, and is highly rare today in an atmosphere of AI garbage and doc mills. This one is well researched, based on police reports and primary sources. An excellent soundtrack and gentle narration leaves a subtle air of chronic unease which was present in the communities affected. It's basically telling the story largely factually and focusing on the lived experience of the communities affected, rather than a titilating shockumentary style that has infected true crime filmmaking today.
It's true that much of today's crime-related content is garish, cheap and cheaply made, gratuitous, exploitative and in some cases, unwatchable. It is also true that some of the best ever feature length docs and full series have been produced in the last decade. If you are unaware of their existence, it might pay you to look slightly further afield. It might save you from making blinkered, pig ignorant claims about the olden days.
Except for one very important ingredient. Sutcliffe was the copycat killer who was eliminated at least nine times because his blood type didnt match the Ripper's. But he was involved, he was the copycat killer who killed Jean Jordan, Yvonne Pearson, Margo Walls and Jacqueline Hill and he committed all the assaults and more he wasnt charged with because it would expose his real part in the Ripper hunt. Its been cover up and lies ever since and people have been brainwashed with this official story. Perfection in perfidy.
Everything about the 70s looks relentlessly grim, oppressive, grimy. brown and primitive. Terrorism, Industrial action, and a serial killer on the loose in Northern England. Superb documentary and all the Northern cities look positively Victorian.
If the grim up North 70s don`t strike you as incredibly grotty then i`m surprised. Factor in 3 day weeks, crippling strikes and a serial killer on the loose, and masses of brown polyester clothing and i`d call it bleak.
Our first nights out as teenagers were against the backdrop of this hunt. The lads at school were great at making sure none of the girls walked home alone.
Hated the comments re killing of prostitutes as opposed to nice normal women god no woman deserves such a fate whether shes working the red light or not - what a horrible time
@51 that will always happen, it happened in Albuquerque New Mexico USA. So what if 11 women who disappeared were hookers\addicts. One was pregnant , they found their graves but not their butcher.
@51 What is wrong with you people? Do you understand English? Streetwalking is illegal and prostitutes who do it are GUILTY of committing a crime, unlike women who aren't criminals and are ... as a result ... you guessed it ... innocent. Do I need to explain the other definitions of 'innocent', and the way they were also perfectly valid, or can you do that yourself? There was NOTHING wrong - WHATSOEVER - with him using the word innocent.
For anyone interested they finally caught the creator of the Ripper Letters and tape. His name is John Samuel Humble and he was convicted of perverting the course of justice in 2006.
They had his tire tracks, bite marks, his shoe size, his shoe print, the 5 pound note traced to him, a witness description that allowed an incredibly accurate composite sketch, nine police interviews with the guy and they still couldn't figure it out. And don't get me started with the cops who let the guy take a piss on the side of a building allowing him to ditch a hammer and a knife before taking him to the station. Astonishing.
Those Brits were so small in comparison to a same sized police department in any random state in America, they just didn't know what to do. They had everything they needed, so many details that would point to 1 man. Sad situation.
Only problem was sutcliffe's blood type didn't match the ripper's B blood found in the semen on some of the victims, also in the saliva on the bite marks. He was a copycat killer framed as the ripper.
@@noelogara1 Would you kindly STFU. You're literally all over this comment section spewing your conspiracy theory bollocks. You commented walls of text to nearly everyone who's made a comment, you barmy nutter. Write a novel or something.
@@noelogara1 or someone messed up during the investigation. Hell police in Germany were convinced for years that there was a female serial killer criminal mastermind running around until someone realized that the forensic kits they had been using were contaminated.
This is one of the finest documentaries i ever seen.. well the act was truly gruesome, the way it was narrated by janet suzman complimented by the enigmatic and mysterious soundtrack was truly captivating. Well chronicled events with subtle space hooks you up till the end.
@@Renxo761 It's funny how religious people are like "Put the kettle on love" and then when they want to proselytise, they break out with the "Follow and know Jesus! The way, the truth the life!" cod-medieval speak. It makes you sound like an idiot.
he was attacked when he went to armley a pencil in his eye i look at it remember the victims first then that basterd sorry for swearing god bless all his victims
Holland defending Oldfield's ego is sickening. Oldfield's autoctratic hard man methods made him a terrible detective- his big head cost women their lives. He must be one of the worst coppers of all time. Those two combined with the Chief Constable who loved himself brought real shame on the West Yorkshire Police.
Both of them, with two appalling cases of Judith Ward and Stefan Kisko. Also, Ronald Gregory had to be criticised for his 1977 misguided reorganisation of the investigation team, his "absolutely delighted" remarks, and earning £40.000 by selling his story to The Mail On Sunday.
@@Vinterbukser yeah realised that shortly after posting…..certainly not a comparison, nevertheless, Richard’s statement is very accurate. The investigation into the crimes committed by The Yorkshire Ripper was shambolic due to poor leadership.
Andrew Laptew's expression towards the end of the video was just heartbreaking. It must be so frustrating knowing that you'd found the Ripper, only to have your suspicions ignored and filed away by incompetent higher-ups. So many women could have been saved if even one person had followed up on Laptew's suspicions.
Jupiter-8 A Tangerine is actually correct with his comments. If you watch any of the Yorkshire Ripper you will hear these facts plus the fact that Peter Sutcliffe was interviewed nine times. These senior officers were supposed to be seasoned detectives, shameful how they allowed more victims die due to their incompetence and large egos.
Remember being obsessed with this case as a schoolboy in Sydney Australia, to see the crime scenes and videos of the buildings and landscapes of the time brings it all together in a riveting way.
Between the £5 note shortlist, size 7 boot, the gap in the teeth, the car regs in right light zones and the e-fits they could have arrested the right man much earlier. I know he had an alibi but short of a neon sign outside his house, the clues used in conjunction couldn’t have been much clearer.
you have to remember when he did these crimes dna sampling wasnt around until another few years after he was convicted.he was convicted in 1981 it was pioneered around 1984 and first used in britain in 1987
Yeh agree I think if another police team from say america or London ect he would have been cought earlier george and his team were out of there depth they had all the clues in front of them But were too obssessed with the tape and even with Peters alibis familys will Lie so alibis are never reliable
The problem was all the interview details were done on index cards and filed under each item. I believe there were over 150,000 cards. Not like these days where we press a button and it matches common links, they would have had to manually search through thousands of cards.
It’s easy for us - with 20/20 hindsight - to judge. Yes, mistakes were made, but Sutcliffe was caught because the police were high alert for _anything_ out of the ordinary. I certainly would not have thought to go back and search the area where Sutcliffe “relieved” himself (the only thing he relieved himself of was the hammer and knife). It’s easy for us today to forget how much of a disadvantage the police faced. My only criticisms are the police should have paid more attention to the victim descriptions of the suspect (the drawings) and should have followed up on the officer’s report who suspected Sutcliffe. And offered a HUGE reward for information leading to the capture. Nothing like money as an incentive to people to look at their neighbors a little closer!
He was finally caught by some alert and diligent police. The people in charge were clearly miles out of their depth and completely swamped. It is not clear to me if they were able to escalate the case and get assistance earlier or not. At least there was a review for lessons learned which should help "next time" if the police are not defunded.
Maureen Long should be commended for coming on this documentary to tell people her story. We so often think we’re safe in our homes, jobs, day to day life. This warns people of what to watch out for, what should make the red flag and warning bells go off. Let’s hope most of them felt nothing after the first hammer blow.
I can’t speak from experience, but I’ve read there’s no pain from intense blows to the head. I find that hard to believe though as anyone whose ever accidentally banged their head hard into something, it hurts quite a lot.
@@32446 I’ve seen a few different interviews with Richard McMan, including one done at the time it was announced Sutcliffe had died. But the last I heard about Maureen Long was that she had passed also. I’ve not been able to confirm that though.
@@kellyshomemadekitchenthat's really sad . I thought she looked incredibly frail in this documentary. What that bastard did no doubt affected & shortened her life 😢
@@hannahhopkinson9044 Sadly, you are most likely exactly right. I’m glad she survived what that monster did to her but the ptsd must have been a nightmare 😓
Eddie Quist they are saying it’s disturbing bc they see prostitutes as not an innocent victim and more deserving of being killed but when the victim isn’t a prostitute they are innocent victims and shouldn’t have been killed
Yes, I know the 70s were a very long time ago in many repects, it still seems awful to think that prostitutes were seen as such a low form of life. Shame on them.
@Eddie Coyle Me too. There's a lot wrong with it even if it was legal. It degrades the woman, destroys her ability to truly love, and helps spread disease and human trafficking.
What makes me mad is because the two policemen who caught him, were from South Yorkshire police, they were not promoted. What a bureaucratic .....joke!!
Well I guess that, through his simple diligence and thoroughness [all done as a low ranking uniform], he embarrassed a lot of top brass in his neighbouring force. Promotions are partly meritorious; mostly political
kslm8045 That's the police for you fucking over their own, this was the biggest unsolved case in decades and they wanted the murderer so badly and when they got him the two Bobbys who arrested him didn't get so much as a handshake let alone a promotion .
Thankfully the two were decent people who actually cared about justice, actually protecting people and doing their jobs. Rather than butting heads in politic pissing contests and covering their own asses like those "big shots" . They probs knew the fall out was going to happen with bosses like THAT but did it anyways . For that they have my respect
Actually it was the rookie cop that insisted upon going back to the arrest point and searching it. How do I know this? At the time I regularly attended the property seen at circa 1:24:00 for management training and as such got to see and hear details together with getting to meet the cops invoved
Interviewed as potential suspect nine times, matches photofits down to the gap in his teeth, narrowed down the area where he lives, and the cops still can't get him. Incredible.
Incredible? Typical more like. The police only solve 5% of all reported crime and were very lucky that the arresting officer returned to the scene of the crime the following day to find the hammer.
One of the saddest and most enduring images is that of Wilma McCann's two children (aged nine and seven) awaking in the morning and discovering that their mother had not come home from a night out. They then go out in their pyjamas and wait in the bitter cold at a nearby bus stop in eager expectation of seeing their mother...
So, what you're saying is that she left her two young children alone at home and went out drinking? Those children are probably better off with whatever family they're with now.
When they finally announced that they had caught the ripper and the chiefs were all sat there smiling and looked like they had just won the lottery really pissed me off. 13 women died & others were attacked, some of those could’ve been stopped if your stupidity and pathetic mistakes didn’t happen! I couldn’t think of anything worse than sitting there with a huge smile on my face if this had happened under my watch. Absolute joke!
Alex Golding pissed me off too. Complete bungling idiots! Two street bobbies catch him and not one mention or word of praise or acknowledgement to the people who actually stopped him .
I’m at a complete loss at how the police missed him. He was interviewed 9 times,he had the gap in his teeth, the boot and tire prints matched and looked just like the photo fits. Total incompetence.if those in charge of law enforcement had checked their egos I can’t help but feel that they would have caught him much earlier.
Really seems like because they were ladies of the night, they didn't matter as much. Quite telling when Trevor Lapish described victims being "innocent girls, prostitutes or whatever" implying prostitutes aren't innocent.
The Police made an assumption based on the fact that the first 2 women were believed to work as prostitutes, ergo he hates prostitutes and they're his targets, so 'decent' women were safe. They failed to consider that prostitutes are the easiest victims in terms of availability, their very occupation meaning they would go with a stranger and the cultural bias against sex workers. Sutcliffe enjoyed killing women, he was an opportunist and 'blitz' attacker and NO woman was safe. Against this background they had tunnel vision and missed the obvious. Still shocking to hear this story and some of the comments of some of the officers about the women were disgraceful.
Of all the crime docs on youtube, this is probably the best. No grief tourism. No BS. The narration is perfect for the dark subject matter. The faces of the women he murdered flashing one by one and ending with his face is chilling. Some of the info is not accurate, but it's presentation is effective. And I love the Northumbria cop who said that the hoaxer letters and tapes should have been used as a line of enquiry, not as a method of elimination. The FBI were consulted on this case, and told Oldfield the letters and tapes were not from the killer, and Oldfield chose to ignore that. What might have been, how many women might have been saved, and how much sooner he would have been caught, we will never know.
yeah that bit annoyed me. Like, promote him and give him his badge ffs! surely it wouldnt be that difficult to do. They just forgot about him because he was a city over... ffs. That guy must have been fuming for yeaaaars
@@LittlestHoboKatie There were already quite enough male police officers seeking personal glory from these despicable murders of defenceless unaccompanied women.
Well someone had to do it, they weren’t the criminals but the catchers. Another woke comment from someone who expects to sleeps at night with no appreciation
I just don't understand how people can kill people like that i feel bad when i push my cat out the way let alone killing a human being boggles my mind glad i know what empathy feels like
Animals don't deserve to be murdered, humans do.. I want to see the supermarkets stocked with human flesh in nice little packages instead of other animals.. Only then will I eat meat.. 🍖🍖🍖🍖🍖🏃🏃🏃🏃🏂🏂
So true, I feel the same way. Racked with guilt because I forgot my 5 rescues' treats and making my partner go back to the store to buy them. :) Now I order online so they are never without treats. My partner is the same way, I just heard him talking to our Xmas rescue kitten and telling her again, "No chipmunks, no birds, just mousies." It's just inconceivable to even think about it, let alone conspire to do something so heinous to any living thing. Complete vegan here, my rescue pit bull loves greek style yogurt and power bars.
England is not very large, its about the same size as the state I live in. Yet they have so many different accents and dialects that you can tell what town someone lives in by the way they talk. Thats mind blowing really
Good narration and impactful story! My heart goes out for the voice artist and researchers that brought us the "real" Story in best possible light to reflect upon. .... I don't understand why being a 1993 born we don't have such journalism in 2020??
I grew up in the south west of England and was extremely young during the Ripper years, but even I remember the unsettling fear that women felt at that time, not to walk outside alone at night etc. Even though it wasn't the Ripper's turf, there was still a fear he'd relocate.
I can hardly watch the Superintendent who keeps messing up! He seems so dim witted- He’s unbelievable! He picks up on absolutely nothing! I hope he is out of policing- he is utterly befuddled by the case. And women just kept getting picked off!
There’s a great book which focuses on victims I recommend - Somebody's Mother, Somebody's Daughter: True Stories from Victims and Survivors of the Yorkshire Ripper by Carol Ann Lee
Not read that one, I have read the brilliant Somebody's Husband, Somebody's Son by Gordon Burn. I like how they have twisted the title of that book for this one!
I come back to this documentary every now and then. It is so well put together, the narrator is outstanding. I was a kid living in Manchester when these things were going on, and I remember the news on TV about this. I was afraid of my mom going out to buy groceries. A perfect representation of those times in northern England.
I rewatch this every so often myself, by now I’ve probably watched it at least a dozen times. No other documentary I’ve ever seen is anywhere near as well done as this.
The investigation here was a disgrace. Inept ranking officers of the law time and time again gave this maniac free licence. It may have been the 1970s but this remains the premier case study in how NOT to catch a murderer. Simply got lucky in the end. Astounding ineptitude.
Thank God for Luck then. It was the 70's and the technology was somewhat lacking as were the skills in the job. Yes there was a few mistakes but none the less it was a massively hard job the Police faced and of course the bogus tape didnt help matters. They did their best mate.
@@azzawazza8635 At the time, serious crimes squads all over the country were infested with the type of copper who's idea of detective work was planting evidence or beating confessions out of suspects, a completely useless mentality and skillset when tracking down a serial killer. It's no surprise that sheer luck brought Sutcliffe down tbh, he wasn't even a particularly competent serial killer.
Look at Ted Bundy! He killed many more, many clues, including his gf calling police to say she though her bf was the killer because of a composite sketch, his name and his vehicle all matched police description, but she was ignored, wasn’t identified as the killer until one victim solidly identified him ( this was many murders later), caught twice, escaped twice, killed many more. And a cop pulled him over for a driving violation and that’s how he was caught for the final time. And this was later than the Yorkshire Ripper. You think it only happens in Britain?
@@teresas8173 Bundy's crimes spanned an enormous geographical area - a key factor delaying his apprehension. And in his case the real failing was that his escape occured Also I have not one thing against Britain and did not intend to impune the reputation of her police
Some seriously poor police work, repetitively. Ignorance of them degrading the sex workers as lesser wemon than the 'normals'. Excellent doc tho, really enjoyed it
@Blob B No it hasn't! !! Jesus said, 'love one another as I have loved you.' People love to judge!!!! He also spent time with the outcasts of the day, tax collectors, prostitutes, the rejected and unloved. These are the lessons we should all learn.
WHY do people give false alibis for those who ask? If my husband asked me to lie for him, I'd give him such a grilling he'd WISH he'd given himself up to the cops.
Mindrolling Sometimes it's fear. Sometimes it's protecting your own. It happens all the time. You'll hear mommy saying what a gentle person he was or neighbors saying what a perfect neighbor he was. They don't want to accept the truth.
Luckily both our sons are gentle, empathic beings. The eldest CAN'T lie- quite literally- he's amazing, but he he's not blunt or rude with it. The younger is prone to exaggeration and the odd lie by omission but that's all.
No doubt Mindrolling. I've never understood this either. I can see weak women hiding their spouses crimes or sticking up for them because they are WEAK, and are willing to lie to keep them and theirs still intact. But to not question your own spouse or be especially diligent in confirming your obvious suspicions from the point on in which you learn of that possiblity, I simply don't understand. Kudos to brave women (ex. Amber Frey) for doing the right thing and not being selfishly weak!!!
The documentary surviving the ripper,the male taxi driver that said Pete tried to kill him,I knew it wasn't him,and I were right,when you are talking to Pete it's hard to think that this man killed 13 and attacked 7 ,he is so shy,and come s across like butter wouldn't melt,it's wrong that they talk like prostitute's ask for it,,,..
I am not happy about Dick Holland being given a free pass in this documentary. This is a detective who was senior investigating officer for two major miscarriages of justice (Kiszko and Ward) - and he was the guy who buried Laptew's ID of Sutcliffe. Disgraceful.
As a kid I remember this was a very big story that went on a long time, while the police tracked Sutcliffe down. One thing that really stuck in my memory was reading that the police on 2 occasions questioned Jimmy Saville. That was a huge deal because at the time, he was one the the UK's biggest celebrities. I couldn't understand why as it made no sense and then it just went away. In hindsight it's clear you don't haul in a major celebrity twice for questioning about serial killings unless you have good reason. People knew what he was like even back then.
@@rozdoyle8872. No the hoaxer was caught and sentenced for Perverting The Course of Justice. He served four years. A pretty pathetic, chronically unemployed alcoholic with little going on in his life. Look up Wearside Jack.
I remember those days well, the fear. I'm from Rochdale, not far from the border with West Yorkshire. As an 8 year old I used to meet my mum from work every night and walk her home. Not that I could've done much to help.
I'm from Rochdale as well but this was before my time. I was born in 88. My mum, grandmas and aunties would have been around back then, must have been terrifying for them.
Rachel Simson How many people look down on prostitutes as a lower life form. But let’s remember one thing, if there was no demand there would be no supply. I wonder how many belittled them and abused them whilst also using them 😕
Fiona Gregory in countries that enforce the Nordic Model, that’s what’s done. The punters and pimps are criminalised, the prostituted women are not blamed for their own exploitation, and the prostituted women are also provided with services to help them get out of the life, off drugs, and train for better jobs. Every country needs the Nordic Model.
This. It made me angry that Lapish differentiated between "innocent" women and prostitutes. Murder victims are all innocent, doesn't matter what they do for money. None of them asked for that.
When in 1998 a serial children murderer here in Northern Germany raped and killed an eleven year old, the Mother said it was a comfort for her that he drove with the captured child along at their house. I cannot understand this. It would haunt me to know I was not knowing anything inside, and the poor little girl was forced complete helpless to see the home for the last time, and being brought to be murdered.
With all due respect they were stereotypical dour, obnoxious and arrogant Yorkshire men... They tried to get Scotland Yard in a while before they mention on here but were met with huge resistance from Holland and Oldfield who were to stubborn and thick to accept help from more experienced and better Detectives.
I gave a lift to one of the ripper team. It was the first time I ever felt sorry for a cop. He was exhausted and seemed close to tears. He told me that they were baffled. All I could do was to wish him luck.
As an old bag, myself----it is always refreshing, that my mind has not gone, dotty.... The elderly are devalued, invisible, and (if murdered) not worth wasting investigative funds.... Whew...!!! Thought I was crazy....🤭
What does he mean by innocent girls? Am I to believe that some of these girls deserved their deaths? Did this nasty attitude affect the way the police approached the investigation.
sinead looby prostitution is illegal therefore the prostitutes weren’t innocent. That doesn’t mean he was implying that they deserved to die tho, but yeah keep pushing ya little agenda kiddo
PS Just found out something from my mother which I never knew. She was working at the DVLA when the hoax letter came in and a team of around 50 spent months sifting through driving licence applications to try and find anyone with similar hand writing. Now bear in mind, all of these women/men were not hand writing experts, just civil servants who had been told to do this. Also bear in mind that you filled in applications using block capital letters so it was near enough impossible to distinguish any similarities. Thought this would be interesting for some to hear as it is yet more evidence of the complete and utter ineptitude of the police and this joke of an investigation.
@@ninalee8705 It had to be somewhere other than West Yorkshire too, if he'd been arrested in W Yorkshire, they'd have made them let him go and not interviewed him. I think they were not just lucky to they actually followed through.
@@cynthiatolman326 Since she's passed away, I can't ask her more questions about this but I know that she said she didn't feel comfortable doing it and many voiced their opinions at the time that they should NOT be doing such a serious task when they were not qualified. BUT they were basically told that if they didn't do it, they could be demoted or sacked so they had no choice. My mother became a Union Rep not long afterwards to make sure something like this never happened again and it hasn't (from what I know).
Watching several old movies based on true incidents and documentaries it's really spine chilling how the West was full of crimes bck thn. Even today but now atleast we're not totally helpless.
I thought I'd be a little different & actually comment on the documentary! Excellent documentary - well paced & researched, with good narration. I could have done with less of the incidental music (though compared to US crime dramas it is virtually non-existant) & more of the background of Peter Sutcliffe, but this is nit-picking. And, the use of original footage really added a chill to this disturbing story. Highly recommended. Thank-you.
+Tommy Butler Tommy, as a guy who's worked as a film producer at, albeit, a fairly modest level, I can say that generally filmmakers are bloody hard-working individuals who take criticism pretty personally. To dismiss the years of work behind such a film in 4 words is rather disappointing, to say the least. Could you do the filmmakers the decency of pointing out the "lies" to which you refer? I presume you've watched this film in its entirety.
Well this documentary set out to chart the police investigation - with its cock-ups - and also to give a portrait of the victims not Peter Sutcliffe. The sad thing about crimes like these is that the criminal becomes a celebrity and the victims no more than shades.
Martin Hugh Well said. These Keystone cops contributed to the delay in stopping this Evil bastard. The victims were cast as shadows, in my opinion because most of them were prostitutes. Nevertheless, Sutcliffe should have been hung. That would of decreased his publicity.
Thanks for the review - I hate the sensationalist kind of portrayal true crime documentaries are prone to, and I agree with your critique about some of the heavy-handedness of the music - but you convinced me that it was worthwhile. Janet Suzman's narration was splendid, in particular.
You had the perfect chance to catch him when you got the five pound note you narrowed it down to a certain amout of factory workers but you did not check their car tyres lots of them men were local a lot back then would have cycled to work and not used a car it would not have taken you as long to find the correct car. Andy England 🇬🇧.
EXCELLENT documentary on the Ripper! People still find this subject riveting 4 decades later, it's great to listen to such a well-narrated, interesting, factual commentary. Great work 👏🏽 Thank you
I remember watching this as a 19 yr old in early 2000 when it was 1st broadcast. I have just turned 43. I agree a superb example of filmmaking. I also recall the promo work the crew did on shows like this morning to advertise. I grew up in the leafy suburbs of north Leeds in relative comfort but always aware of the shroud cast upon the city a few years before. I recognise so many of the filming locations which is quite chilling. God bless
@jamesobrien1440 thanks for sharing. Creepy actually knowing the area in which the Ripper operated! So glad he was caught and justice prevailed but my heart goes out to those poor women and their families ❤️
Became infatuated with this case because I visited Leeds while it was going on. Remember the Jayne McDonald poster at the train station. Female narration is excellent. Very good doc.
The level of incompetence shown by the men leading this investigation is simply staggering. To focus all the attention on 'Wearside Jack' and to disregard both concerns about the validity of the tapes as well as any suspect without a Geordie accent is beyond belief.
Easy to say in retrospect when you have all the key evidence & know the outcome. The detectives involved know they fucked up & I dare say if you were part of the investigation you wouldn't have fared any better then them, more likely a lot worse. How about you blame the prick who sent the tapes??
@@runlarryrun77 What absolute nonsense. It's standard procedure to follow up lines of enquiry instead of re-routing an investigation because of some letters and a tape and dismissing the possibility that they just might be sent by someone who was not the Ripper. The following are facts: 1) Other high-ranking officers told George Oldfield of their grave doubts of the validity of the tapes and letters and supported their views with valid reasons. 2) The FBI profiler, Robert Ressler, told Oldfield immediately upon hearing the tape that it was a hoax. 3) One of Sutcliffe's surviving victims, Tracy Browne, told Oldfield that the man on the tape was not her attacker. Despite this, Oldfield decided to plough on regardless. ANY competent police officer would fare better than him.
Better than the new Netflix doc. Hands down. More informative in less time. One of the best true crime documentaries, ever.
Which Netflix
Documentary
No serious person spends time on Netflix.
@@kingpriapatius5832 why ?
@@sandybristow2236the one that’s on Netflix in the uk
I've not watched the one from Netflix because you just can't top this
This is the best Yorkshire ripper documentary I have watched.
What an excellent documentary. They don’t make them like this anymore. The music, narration, just perfect .
Yes yur totally correct excellent
@@michaeldevaney5728 I agree. Everything about this documentary is absolutely perfect
@@kellyshomemadekitchen hi how are yu I hope yur well thanks for yur comment ie and what was strange some of his victims were not prostitutes some serial killers have sex with victims but he didn't
My first time watching it
@@michaeldevaney5728 right. It was like he couldn’t hold himself back from killing them right away or attempting to in some cases. However, one thing this documentary does not mention is the fact that he wore a v-neck sweater under his trousers (no underwear) in order to have “easy access” to masturbate over his victims’ bodies after he killed them. As if he hadn’t already disrespected them enough! What a sicko!
Timeless documentary. It has the right tone and no over dramatization as many other crime documentaries have.
Yes except for the fact that Sutcliffe was a copycat killer framed as the Ripper by police who screwed up the investigation and let the Real Ripper get away to kill again.
Rather unfortunate choice of words "Killing innocent women instead of prostitutes." Methinks prostitutes are also 'innocent' against being murdered. In fact innocent in general.
English is not my first language but understand what you mean....
Couldn’t concur with you more.
Love & Light from Miami ✨✌🏼
Stay safe
Exacly! I mean, wjhat are they guilty of? Having consensual sex?
William Arthur Fenton
he said there was no difference in their eyes yet goes on to call non-prostitutes innocent
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This is a well-made documentary. Not at all sensationalistic, like American docs. It was made with respect and the proper tone.
#PilettaDoinswartsh You've obviously missed the well-made PBS docs in USA, and perhaps you have a bias against Americans - but surely all that matters is keeping this from becoming a story about the killer. #RIPVictims
@Olwen Morgan Perhaps, and we certainly admire BBC for their masterful contributions to the genre, still with the ad-free public service broadcast like PBS, geared to quality in the TV wasteland, we can be just as proud of ourselves here.
@@Ptinski YOU obviously don't get it. The statement was made as a genetalization!! Nobody could POSSIBLY view EVERY documentary concerning a certain subject...........
@@jerryvivanco4352 Yes, you're right. If PD hadn't downed American docs I'd have left it there. Nothing wrong with broadening someone's viewpoint.
Sounds like something the unfortunate descendent of a cowering loyalist to King George the Tyrant, might say. But of course I’m just generalizing.
No fuss, no muss. Just the facts. Quality documentary.
Yes certainly better than what the Americans make.
James glen I agree the Americans docs are crap
Americans need to tone it down a bit,but we know that is something Americans are not known for.
Hey not all of us are bad . But you are completely correct about our documentaries they have become completely crap . I didn't ask to be born American.
Yes! And no unnecessary music.
The sheer quality of this documentary compared with the lightweight over dramatised drivel is breathtaking.
Oh yes. I love the style to older true crime documentaries and paranormal stuff over the painfully overly manipulative junk they put out today.
I agree completely. I especially like how they don’t show the same scene or comment multiple times. Just a very good flow of information. And lastly, I could listen to this narrator all day.
White people have standards
Except for the few very important matters that were left out. They didn't give any information about the copycat killer known to be involved, also they knew there were two killers involved in the murders and they dont explain or even know why sutcliffe was eliminated so many times.
@@noelogara1 why do you think he was eliminated so many times?
Now that's how a documentary is made. What a piece.
My first time watching
I also wanted to say that the narrator has a very soothing, intelligent-sounding voice. She really fits narrating this kind of story.
George Long j
Yes, she could do ASMR videos. I literally fell asleep during this show. Despite the disturbing content, her voice soothed me to sleep. She could probably read an autopsy transcript & I'd fall fast asleep!
I would apply the same description to Bill Kurtis.
I thought it was mariella
And that flute.....floating haunting flute.
The flute and the narrators voice.... so eerie. A grim story but well told. The archival footage is fascinating.
There was a woman's shoe on a sports field with cones around the shoe. Very forlorn.
@@denisegore1884 It was a dead giant queen ant..She was killed by the ants but the police covered it up..🐜🐜🐜🐜🐜🐜🐜🐜🐝🐝👽👽🤡
One of which is short clip of a film location which was used in at least 3 fictional drama productions, and doesn't exist anymore.
It's possible they used interior footage too, but trying to find photos or videos from inside the building before it was demolished isn't going well.
People only seem to have photos and videos of the outside of the building, and which are usually from the same 2 angles. No-one seems to have taken any footage of the other side of the building.
The Brits do documentaries of this type really, really well.
The best narrator ever , absolutely amazing.
A prostitute is a person. A prostitute is a person;s daughter; mother and so forth. People judge sex workers well if there was not a demand for it; then would they be there? There are many sex workers of whom are forced to conduct this post as a way of survival. It is the person looking for it thay should be judged.
@Sara I only hope you live in your princess world forever. You piece of filth.
A prostitute sells his or her body not to be rape and this does not justify or interpret crime you bitch
@@margaretohara3451 exactly. People do what they do to get by
Yes a life is a life just as important as anyone ,she was entitled to keep her life and not be killed by anyone other human being
These women said they couldn’t get any other work. Implying that they deserved this or weren’t innocent is horrible, imho.
When it comes to crime documentaries, this one always stands out to me.
The music and narration is unsettling and you get a sense of how brutal Sutcliffe was. In terms of atmosphere, this is such a good documentary.
It’s showing it’s age a little now but it’s still the best documentary about the Ripper I’ve ever seen.
I agree, the narration especially stands out to me.
Behave
People believe that sutcliffe was the ripper because that's what they want to believe. They are willing to ignore all the evidence that he was a copycat killer framed as the ripper by lying cops.
I agree completely
@Robert it’s one of the best. Enjoy.
Janet Suzman narrated this and she held us all in our seats. Bravo!
Her voice is fabulous!!
Lovely voice...I originally thought it was Zoë Wanamaker...who also has a lovely voice.
@@noellegunning3301 Yes. Wasn't she Alexandra in "Nicholas and Alexandra"?
@@MrPotsy81 Correct, She was.
Me too.. @@ausplus
A masterpiece of a documentary. The writer had voice like silk and her perfect internation wasn’t overly dramatised. Loved the Erie flute very under stated. It was very factual and not in the least bit manipulative or sensational unlike the drivel you get today. As somebody who is registered blind, I have no need to watch the video I could listen to it on the narrative was throwing an interrupted, and there was so much dialogue that you could follow all the way through.
She didn't write anything, she's just the narrator!
@@MizzMetallikat76 It doesn't matter. I was involved in creating videos for companies. We had some great narrators on our books. Narration makes such a difference to the message being sent. I was chosen to narrate 2 videos we created for clients. When we presented the finished item to clients, they were very impressed. We hired a well known actor for one narration, but the result was awful. He acted the role instead of taking himself out of the story. We found a replacement but still had to pay the actor. It is a surprisingly difficult job being a narrator.
I agree one hundred percent. Great video thanks for sharing!
@LizaFergison it does matter when somebody claims somebody has written something that they haven't.
@@LizaFergison it DOES matter when you're being factual!
Watched a few documentaries about these awful crimes but this is still one of the best.
Rest in Peace to all those poor victims.
It is THE best. I watch it routinely.
Why would u watch it routinely?
Still , I've watched numerous of the savile documentaries multiple times and watch as u say routinely so guess that's no different..wonder why we find them fascinating ? It's obv that gallows thing.. I'm a normal person and not into stuff savile was and I'm guessing u have no interest in killing women ?
@@Sol-Cutta I have same question for Errol Kim too. Once is enough, unless one is using it for criminal studies or fall asleep several times like me and need to watch some of it again. I lived through those times and it was scary for everyone. Sutcliff was a evil nutter
@@life107familyfitnessboxing8 true true , seems odd u would watch something so horrid to our lives, again and again for vivacious recreation. Not sure where that puts one's mind. If it's a element of fascintaion in the police methods and that side of things then I suppose that's ok and the original thread commentator guy wrote awful crimes and r.i.p victims so I guess that suggests he's not watching it getting a thrill from the death and suffering of others. if it is getting a thrill then that is sick and troublesome.
RIP Detective Andrew Laptew who passed away recently. If only they had listened to him.
Dick Holland (also featured in this) dismissed him totally - problem was him and Oldfield were frankly a bit thick, which is why it went on for so long. Holland also had a long record of fitting people up. His son has recently gone to prison over drug dealing too.
@@Dessan01 What amazes me about Holland is that even here he went "he had CLEARLY mistaken the girl for a prostitute". Despite the fact they failed to catch the killer for so long precisely due to the fact they had assumed he targeted prostitutes only and thus failed to see the bigger picture and make the connection with other cases. He... really learned nothing, did he.
@@alessandrapacelli9374 The problem is that the police forces nowdays give too much weight to the suspect profiling. You hear it in criminal case documentaries time and time again: "criminals don't change their established modus operandi". And so once they encounter something different they almost automatically dismiss the possibility that it could have been the work of the same person and they look for someone else.
Yes, human beings are creatures of habit but we aren't robots. We can evolve in our aims and methods. And this case is a good example of that. He at first targetted the prostitutes but then he broadened the scope of his victims to women in general, no matter of age or occupation.
Agreed, he seemed to be completely different from the rest of the keystone kops. Sorry to hear if his passing.
Yes RIP Andrew Laptew. The first man to name Sutcliffe as the likely YR. If they had listened to him 4 or 5 victims would have survived.
Mr Laptew was a good Policeman and a good man.
Like with the capture of Ted Bundy the man who caught the Yorkshire Ripper was a good honest cop doing his proper hard days work. Good on him!
The lady's voice makes it so much more creepy lol. What a voice.
The cops who caught both of these cult heros were just average cops . Below average . Street bums who respond to domestic calls. Fuck the cops and their investigation on me !
@@deneshbhaskar3944 Domestic calls are some of the most frightening for cops. You never know what's going to happen.
@@marnieweaver3935 lmao no theyre not... marnie ur a women u wouldnt know
@@deneshbhaskar3944 Well, usually, but not always the victim is the woman, so I do know. And I'm in USA so maybe it's different.
what's good about this doc is it doesn't sensationalize the events, which is both the right thing to do with respect to the victims, and is highly rare today in an atmosphere of AI garbage and doc mills. This one is well researched, based on police reports and primary sources. An excellent soundtrack and gentle narration leaves a subtle air of chronic unease which was present in the communities affected. It's basically telling the story largely factually and focusing on the lived experience of the communities affected, rather than a titilating shockumentary style that has infected true crime filmmaking today.
I’ve been watching crime shows all my life and this is probably the best one I’ve ever seen. Thanks so much for posting!
thx hun we all were wondering
All your life? Since birth? 😮😅😂 Maybe your adult life only? 🥹🥹
Agreed
ah back when they made decent crime documentaries without all the hyperbole re-enactments and ridiculous editing.
Totally agree,
The re-enactments can make it kinda cool depends on acting
It's true that much of today's crime-related content is garish, cheap and cheaply made, gratuitous, exploitative and in some cases, unwatchable.
It is also true that some of the best ever feature length docs and full series have been produced in the last decade. If you are unaware of their existence, it might pay you to look slightly further afield. It might save you from making blinkered, pig ignorant claims about the olden days.
@@Dave-id6sj wtf....
I totally agree. The influence of the America style of documentaries has ruined things.
An excellent documentary far superior to the average type of this kind.
Naah I like the ones where it shows the police interrogations of the suspect,
This is the greatest narration for this subject. It's perfection.
Except for one very important ingredient. Sutcliffe was the copycat killer who was eliminated at least nine times because his blood type didnt match the Ripper's. But he was involved, he was the copycat killer who killed Jean Jordan, Yvonne Pearson, Margo Walls and Jacqueline Hill and he committed all the assaults and more he wasnt charged with because it would expose his real part in the Ripper hunt. Its been cover up and lies ever since and people have been brainwashed with this official story. Perfection in perfidy.
Everything about the 70s looks relentlessly grim, oppressive, grimy. brown and primitive. Terrorism, Industrial action, and a serial killer on the loose in Northern England. Superb documentary and all the Northern cities look positively Victorian.
+Jimmy Pop t.v.
Tetley Bittermen..... you can't beat 'em......
Join em.
I`m from Bradford, i was just waxing lyrical.
+Jimmy Pop t.v. if Lyrical is that seven year old girl from up the road, i'm calling the cops.
If the grim up North 70s don`t strike you as incredibly grotty then i`m surprised. Factor in 3 day weeks, crippling strikes and a serial killer on the loose, and masses of brown polyester clothing and i`d call it bleak.
The eerie music fits well with this documentary, and the Narrator’s voice.
Yes, her voice is excellent.
@@noellegunning3301 I might be strange for some reason i kept coming back to to des documentary whenever i wanted ti fall asleep at night🤔🙄😴
@@noellegunning3301 It sounds like the actress Zoe Wannamaker
Edit: Now I've watched the end credits it's Janet Suzman. Very similiar voices though.
Our first nights out as teenagers were against the backdrop of this hunt. The lads at school were great at making sure none of the girls walked home alone.
Glad there people who truly care!
this is lovely for the young lads to care about the young girls
Sexism
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Best crime documentary I've ever seen - felt the personal pain & heartache of the victims and police - pacing & narration 1st rate
Hated the comments re killing of prostitutes as opposed to nice normal women god no woman deserves such a fate whether shes working the red light or not - what a horrible time
Well Done!
@51 that will always happen, it happened in Albuquerque New Mexico USA. So what if 11 women who disappeared were hookers\addicts. One was pregnant , they found their graves but not their butcher.
@51 What is wrong with you people? Do you understand English? Streetwalking is illegal and prostitutes who do it are GUILTY of committing a crime, unlike women who aren't criminals and are ... as a result ... you guessed it ... innocent. Do I need to explain the other definitions of 'innocent', and the way they were also perfectly valid, or can you do that yourself? There was NOTHING wrong - WHATSOEVER - with him using the word innocent.
If anything it's worse,these poor women who made a choice that put them where they didn't want to be,then end up being bludgeoned and cut up,terrible
Yes how could they make comments like that , my God they were all innocent victims entitled to live their lives without fear of being murdered.
For anyone interested they finally caught the creator of the Ripper Letters and tape. His name is John Samuel Humble and he was convicted of perverting the course of justice in 2006.
enlathestrange I never remembered that ,thank you 👍🏻
He is dead now
Thanks!
They should have hung the bastatd but then the police shouldn't have been so stupid and gullible
Is there video about his case?
They had his tire tracks, bite marks, his shoe size, his shoe print, the 5 pound note traced to him, a witness description that allowed an incredibly accurate composite sketch, nine police interviews with the guy and they still couldn't figure it out. And don't get me started with the cops who let the guy take a piss on the side of a building allowing him to ditch a hammer and a knife before taking him to the station. Astonishing.
😮that detective was a tool and admits to messing up
To be fair I think the women held it together....police force was a joke
Well said.
Agree. Shoe size wasn't the same though, which means he forced size 7 shows on his 8.5 size feet or...
Those Brits were so small in comparison to a same sized police department in any random state in America, they just didn't know what to do. They had everything they needed, so many details that would point to 1 man. Sad situation.
...AND HIS CAR WAS SEEN IN RED LIGHT DISTRICTS, WHAT 8 OR 9 TIMES. edit (Joe said 50 times)
I can’t believe that forensic scientist literally mapped exactly where the ripper lived. Incredible.
The one with the graph was RAF ! So amazing
Only problem was sutcliffe's blood type didn't match the ripper's B blood found in the semen on some of the victims, also in the saliva on the bite marks. He was a copycat killer framed as the ripper.
@@noelogara1 Would you kindly STFU. You're literally all over this comment section spewing your conspiracy theory bollocks. You commented walls of text to nearly everyone who's made a comment, you barmy nutter. Write a novel or something.
@@noelogara1 or someone messed up during the investigation. Hell police in Germany were convinced for years that there was a female serial killer criminal mastermind running around until someone realized that the forensic kits they had been using were contaminated.
Ivor yo: geoforensics we called it in school in the 90s.
All these women were victims in my opinion no matter what they did for a living
Prostitutes lives matter
@@enjay4251 Every life matters but the killer's
@Jessica Jujubean Sick
That’s true but if they were spreading crotch rot they should be ashamed of themselves.
Agree
This is one of the finest documentaries i ever seen.. well the act was truly gruesome, the way it was narrated by janet suzman complimented by the enigmatic and mysterious soundtrack was truly captivating. Well chronicled events with subtle space hooks you up till the end.
The Ripper died today.. If hell exists then that sick bastard is there! Rip all his victims.
It does exist. The only way to not go there is to follow and know Jesus. He is the way, the truth, and the life
@@Renxo761 It's funny how religious people are like "Put the kettle on love" and then when they want to proselytise, they break out with the "Follow and know Jesus! The way, the truth the life!" cod-medieval speak. It makes you sound like an idiot.
@@Renxo761Best beard ever as well.
Oh he died?
he was attacked when he went to armley a pencil in his eye i look at it remember the victims first then that basterd sorry for swearing god bless all his victims
This is the goat of serial killer documentaries
Holland defending Oldfield's ego is sickening. Oldfield's autoctratic hard man methods made him a terrible detective- his big head cost women their lives. He must be one of the worst coppers of all time. Those two combined with the Chief Constable who loved himself brought real shame on the West Yorkshire Police.
Perfect analogy
Both of them, with two appalling cases of Judith Ward and Stefan Kisko. Also, Ronald Gregory had to be criticised for his 1977 misguided reorganisation of the investigation team, his "absolutely delighted" remarks, and earning £40.000 by selling his story to The Mail On Sunday.
@@mickykedian7753That's not what an analogy is.
@@Vinterbukser yeah realised that shortly after posting…..certainly not a comparison, nevertheless, Richard’s statement is very accurate. The investigation into the crimes committed by The Yorkshire Ripper was shambolic due to poor leadership.
Harsh
Andrew Laptew's expression towards the end of the video was just heartbreaking. It must be so frustrating knowing that you'd found the Ripper, only to have your suspicions ignored and filed away by incompetent higher-ups. So many women could have been saved if even one person had followed up on Laptew's suspicions.
+Amy Santiago My thoughts exactly. So sad.
He suspected him, had doubts, that's all. He was just one of many people that were good candidates for being the killer.
@A Tangerine You don't know any of that, you weren't there.
Sadly DC Andrew Laptew passed away recently. Should have been a National hero.
Jupiter-8 A Tangerine is actually correct with his comments. If you watch any of the Yorkshire Ripper you will hear these facts plus the fact that Peter Sutcliffe was interviewed nine times. These senior officers were supposed to be seasoned detectives, shameful how they allowed more victims die due to their incompetence and large egos.
The narration on this documentary is truly superb for reasons i can't phathom
Fathom
N there’s your answer…
The finest of English narration that’s why…
@@fionagregory8078oh yeah. I was perplexed there for a moment.
Remember being obsessed with this case as a schoolboy in Sydney Australia, to see the crime scenes and videos of the buildings and landscapes of the time brings it all together in a riveting way.
Some of his surviving victims told the police, he didn't even have a geordie accent, but the stubborn fools took no notice.
and some of those photo fits were spot on but who believes a prostitute , the police force was incredibly misogynistic in those days
@@StellaKnights those days?
@ Maybe you and the other two idiotic know-it-alls can share with us your experiences investigating serial murder cases?
Marc Templer Hey I’m no genius but if more than one witness tells me something about the perp’s accent I’d listen, idk!
@ bang on. we really haven't come that far tbh. sure theres more women in the workforce but who does that really benefit besides capitalists?
Between the £5 note shortlist, size 7 boot, the gap in the teeth, the car regs in right light zones and the e-fits they could have arrested the right man much earlier. I know he had an alibi but short of a neon sign outside his house, the clues used in conjunction couldn’t have been much clearer.
you have to remember when he did these crimes dna sampling wasnt around until another few years after he was convicted.he was convicted in 1981 it was pioneered around 1984 and first used in britain in 1987
Yeh agree I think if another police team from say america or London ect he would have been cought earlier george and his team were out of there depth they had all the clues in front of them But were too obssessed with the tape and even with Peters alibis familys will Lie so alibis are never reliable
The problem was all the interview details were done on index cards and filed under each item. I believe there were over 150,000 cards. Not like these days where we press a button and it matches common links, they would have had to manually search through thousands of cards.
Excellent documentary. Beautifully narrated. What these women went through is unspeakable.
Truly heartbreaking for all the victims and their families. Thank you for posting.
Richard McCann ( the first murder victims son ) is now an inspirational speaker, he came to my school today and told his story he was amazing
@Rab Feenie Spencer is definitely a troll. He made a shitty comment about sex workers on another comment above. Sounds like an arse wipe.
@spencer kleiman Ha! That's hilarious!!!
Yes.
McCann has certainly done very well for himself...
@@ppuh6tfrz646 what is that meant to mean?
@@PK-sc2vn I think the meaning is pretty obvious.
The hunt for the Yorkshire Ripper was one of the biggest Police stuff ups ever. As it turned out, Peter Sutcliffe was caught by chance.
he was obseesed by a accent
It’s easy for us - with 20/20 hindsight - to judge.
Yes, mistakes were made, but Sutcliffe was caught because the police were high alert for _anything_ out of the ordinary.
I certainly would not have thought to go back and search the area where Sutcliffe “relieved” himself (the only thing he relieved himself of was the hammer and knife).
It’s easy for us today to forget how much of a disadvantage the police faced.
My only criticisms are the police should have paid more attention to the victim descriptions of the suspect (the drawings) and should have followed up on the officer’s report who suspected Sutcliffe.
And offered a HUGE reward for information leading to the capture. Nothing like money as an incentive to people to look at their neighbors a little closer!
Peter did it to change the system . That's why the queen knighted him twice over
Very sad it took so long to find that monster 😥
He was finally caught by some alert and diligent police.
The people in charge were clearly miles out of their depth and completely swamped. It is not clear to me if they were able to escalate the case and get assistance earlier or not.
At least there was a review for lessons learned which should help "next time" if the police are not defunded.
Poor Maureen. SO glad she's alive, but how utterly harrowing her recovery and learning to live again must have been. She seems so gentle.
Sadly she has passed away
@@janeokeeffe5297 Prove it
@@PatrickFDolan yeah, I cannot find anything remotely suggesting she has passed away, no news articles or death notices.
God bless everyone effected by this.
@@PatrickFDolanprove it? Are you not well in your head wtf would you say that for shes was very old by this point
She passed away I new her
Maureen Long should be commended for coming on this documentary to tell people her story. We so often think we’re safe in our homes, jobs, day to day life. This warns people of what to watch out for, what should make the red flag and warning bells go off. Let’s hope most of them felt nothing after the first hammer blow.
I can’t speak from experience, but I’ve read there’s no pain from intense blows to the head. I find that hard to believe though as anyone whose ever accidentally banged their head hard into something, it hurts quite a lot.
A friend of mine knows her and Richard Mcann. Both hugely affected to this day.
@@32446 I’ve seen a few different interviews with Richard McMan, including one done at the time it was announced Sutcliffe had died. But the last I heard about Maureen Long was that she had passed also. I’ve not been able to confirm that though.
@@kellyshomemadekitchenthat's really sad . I thought she looked incredibly frail in this documentary. What that bastard did no doubt affected & shortened her life 😢
@@hannahhopkinson9044
Sadly, you are most likely exactly right. I’m glad she survived what that monster did to her but the ptsd must have been a nightmare 😓
Disturbing how they see a prostitute and 'an innocent victim' as different things.
How can you be innocent when you are committing a crime ?
Eddie Quist they are saying it’s disturbing bc they see prostitutes as not an innocent victim and more deserving of being killed but when the victim isn’t a prostitute they are innocent victims and shouldn’t have been killed
Yes, I know the 70s were a very long time ago in many repects, it still seems awful to think that prostitutes were seen as such a low form of life. Shame on them.
@Eddie Coyle Me too. There's a lot wrong with it even if it was legal. It degrades the woman, destroys her ability to truly love, and helps spread disease and human trafficking.
@@LadyIarConnacht Well, you've swallowed every myth and prejudice about sex workers, haven't you?
What makes me mad is because the two policemen who caught him, were from South Yorkshire police, they were not promoted. What a bureaucratic .....joke!!
Well I guess that, through his simple diligence and thoroughness [all done as a low ranking uniform], he embarrassed a lot of top brass in his neighbouring force. Promotions are partly meritorious; mostly political
They committed the crime of embarrassing fvckwits who outranked them.
kslm8045 That's the police for you fucking over their own, this was the biggest unsolved case in decades and they wanted the murderer so badly and when they got him the two Bobbys who arrested him didn't get so much as a handshake let alone a promotion .
Thankfully the two were decent people who actually cared about justice, actually protecting people and doing their jobs. Rather than butting heads in politic pissing contests and covering their own asses like those "big shots" . They probs knew the fall out was going to happen with bosses like THAT but did it anyways . For that they have my respect
Actually it was the rookie cop that insisted upon going back to the arrest point and searching it. How do I know this? At the time I regularly attended the property seen at circa 1:24:00 for management training and as such got to see and hear details together with getting to meet the cops invoved
This woman narrating the documentary has an AMAZING VOICE.
+melanie brandt I think it's the actress Janet Suzman, and yes she has a v sexy voice
Sounds like the newscaster of BBC. The black woman.
Melanie Brandt she has a good speaking voice
She can read me a bed time story anytime.
peter stirzaker that showed them
Interviewed as potential suspect nine times, matches photofits down to the gap in his teeth, narrowed down the area where he lives, and the cops still can't get him. Incredible.
If they hadn't been so distracted by the wearside hoaxer they may well have got him earlier. We'll never know
Incredible? Typical more like. The police only solve 5% of all reported crime and were very lucky that the arresting officer returned to the scene of the crime the following day to find the hammer.
My dad was arrested becsuse he had the same car with a stripe lol
Police arrogance at its worst
south yorkshire police uselees the miners strike and hillsborough there was antother case i seen on youtube balls that up as well
One of the saddest and most enduring images is that of Wilma McCann's two children (aged nine and seven) awaking in the morning and discovering that their mother had not come home from a night out. They then go out in their pyjamas and wait in the bitter cold at a nearby bus stop in eager expectation of seeing their mother...
Ivan P Pillay To be honest it was her that fuelled the ripper craving to kill prostitutes
placid renegade you complete twat!
@Rab Feenie He was under investigation for breeding queen ants and mice on Mars 🐜🐜🐜🐜🐜🐜🐝🐝🐍🐍👽👽👽🐁🐁🐀🐀🐀🐁🐁🦇🤡🤡
So, what you're saying is that she left her two young children alone at home and went out drinking? Those children are probably better off with whatever family they're with now.
@@David-ud9ju Not really, the daughter killed herself a few years back due to feeling guilty she had passed the age her mother was when she died..
The survivor is one he'll of a woman. My heart broke to see her pain. Its easy to kill and to die. Its hard as he'll to fight to live
When they finally announced that they had caught the ripper and the chiefs were all sat there smiling and looked like they had just won the lottery really pissed me off. 13 women died & others were attacked, some of those could’ve been stopped if your stupidity and pathetic mistakes didn’t happen! I couldn’t think of anything worse than sitting there with a huge smile on my face if this had happened under my watch. Absolute joke!
Simply put: they were relieved that the killer had been brought to justice.
Alex Golding pissed me off too.
Complete bungling idiots! Two street bobbies catch him and not one mention or word of praise or acknowledgement to the people who actually stopped him .
another female less :D
stewart campbell 🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼
Louie Hannigan it sounds like he has many problems.
I’m at a complete loss at how the police missed him. He was interviewed 9 times,he had the gap in his teeth, the boot and tire prints matched and looked just like the photo fits. Total incompetence.if those in charge of law enforcement had checked their egos I can’t help but feel that they would have caught him much earlier.
Yes, incompetent and seemingly did not care enough.
Really seems like because they were ladies of the night, they didn't matter as much. Quite telling when Trevor Lapish described victims being "innocent girls, prostitutes or whatever" implying prostitutes aren't innocent.
Were his wife and mother prosecuted? Their lies contributed to them discounting him due providing him with false alibis
Where's "Vera"?
The Police made an assumption based on the fact that the first 2 women were believed to work as prostitutes, ergo he hates prostitutes and they're his targets, so 'decent' women were safe.
They failed to consider that prostitutes are the easiest victims in terms of availability, their very occupation meaning they would go with a stranger and the cultural bias against sex workers. Sutcliffe enjoyed killing women, he was an opportunist and 'blitz' attacker and NO woman was safe. Against this background they had tunnel vision and missed the obvious. Still shocking to hear this story and some of the comments of some of the officers about the women were disgraceful.
Of all the crime docs on youtube, this is probably the best. No grief tourism. No BS. The narration is perfect for the dark subject matter. The faces of the women he murdered flashing one by one and ending with his face is chilling. Some of the info is not accurate, but it's presentation is effective. And I love the Northumbria cop who said that the hoaxer letters and tapes should have been used as a line of enquiry, not as a method of elimination. The FBI were consulted on this case, and told Oldfield the letters and tapes were not from the killer, and Oldfield chose to ignore that. What might have been, how many women might have been saved, and how much sooner he would have been caught, we will never know.
Have to agree, excellent portrayal of the facts.
The FBI also said the hoaxer was a disgruntled copper which turned out way wide of the mark..
Just curious, what information is inaccurate?
What isn't accurate?
The Northumberland cop is brilliant.
...and the 1 guy who finally puts 2 and 2 together...goes back to the scene and finds the evidence isn't promoted...ridiculous.
yeah that bit annoyed me. Like, promote him and give him his badge ffs! surely it wouldnt be that difficult to do. They just forgot about him because he was a city over... ffs. That guy must have been fuming for yeaaaars
@@LittlestHoboKatie There were already quite enough male police officers seeking personal glory from these despicable murders of defenceless unaccompanied women.
He should've got a pay rise at least.
Well someone had to do it, they weren’t the criminals but the catchers. Another woke comment from someone who expects to sleeps at night with no appreciation
I just don't understand how people can kill people like that i feel bad when i push my cat out the way let alone killing a human being boggles my mind glad i know what empathy feels like
these people don't feel guilt or remorse
they have no empathy
they enjoy killing,and often get sexually aroused by it.
Animals don't deserve to be murdered, humans do.. I want to see the supermarkets stocked with human flesh in nice little packages instead of other animals.. Only then will I eat meat.. 🍖🍖🍖🍖🍖🏃🏃🏃🏃🏂🏂
Remember you and most other people are NOT insane. Why did Hitler kill so many?? insanity.
Because psychopaths and sociopaths have no remorse empathy or sympathy
Plus no inhibitions
So true, I feel the same way. Racked with guilt because I forgot my 5 rescues' treats and making my partner go back to the store to buy them. :) Now I order online so they are never without treats. My partner is the same way, I just heard him talking to our Xmas rescue kitten and telling her again, "No chipmunks, no birds, just mousies." It's just inconceivable to even think about it, let alone conspire to do something so heinous to any living thing. Complete vegan here, my rescue pit bull loves greek style yogurt and power bars.
England is not very large, its about the same size as the state I live in. Yet they have so many different accents and dialects that you can tell what town someone lives in by the way they talk. Thats mind blowing really
A Geordie accent from a Leeds from a Brommie? It took me 3 years of watching Cheryl Cole before I could understand what she was saying.
I want that narrator to read me bedtime stories...what a wonderful voice
Dame Janet Suzman! She’s narrated a number of other BBC documentaries that can be found on RUclips.
Good narration and impactful story! My heart goes out for the voice artist and researchers that brought us the "real" Story in best possible light to reflect upon. .... I don't understand why being a 1993 born we don't have such journalism in 2020??
I grew up in the south west of England and was extremely young during the Ripper years, but even I remember the unsettling fear that women felt at that time, not to walk outside alone at night etc. Even though it wasn't the Ripper's turf, there was still a fear he'd relocate.
The best documentary i have seen on these tragic murders.So much i had never seen or heard of. RIP Ladies Godbless.
The narrator, Janet Suzman, is an actress who was in "Nicholas and Alexandra." I agree she has a great voice !
Thank you soo much..... I instantly fell in the narration and voice and wondered about the voice artist.... Thank you 🙏💕
In her physical prime she had a smoking hot body. I don't think she would be displeased by this compliment.
She also played Cleopatra in Antony and Cleopatra in the 1980s BBC Shakespeare series.
I can hardly watch the Superintendent who keeps messing up! He seems so dim witted- He’s unbelievable!
He picks up on absolutely nothing! I hope he is out of policing- he is utterly befuddled by the case. And women just kept getting picked off!
Certainly you would have done better--especially if you had all of the information. Get real. He did his best with the info and tools he had.
@@TheVeek192 no. He was incompetent.
@@TheVeek192 no he was profoundly stupid
@@TheVeek192 Incorrect.
There’s a great book which focuses on victims I recommend - Somebody's Mother, Somebody's Daughter: True Stories from Victims and Survivors of the Yorkshire Ripper by Carol Ann Lee
Brilliant book
I'll be sure to check it out.
Many thanks for the recommendation
F the victims . Be the purp
Not read that one, I have read the brilliant Somebody's Husband, Somebody's Son by Gordon Burn. I like how they have twisted the title of that book for this one!
I come back to this documentary every now and then. It is so well put together, the narrator is outstanding. I was a kid living in Manchester when these things were going on, and I remember the news on TV about this. I was afraid of my mom going out to buy groceries. A perfect representation of those times in northern England.
I rewatch this every so often myself, by now I’ve probably watched it at least a dozen times. No other documentary I’ve ever seen is anywhere near as well done as this.
This is my first time watching. I only just recently found out about this case. I live in the area of the zodiac killer
This is a very in depth documentary with great analysis and commentary :) with good use of archive footage. A little haunting too...
Excellent. Very well done. Narrator is excellent.
Jean Aschman narrator will not solve anything good or bad !!
@nigel bray no
Still sends a shiver down my spine even after all these years.
Excellent documentary , brings back those dark terror filled days as if it were yesterday … RIP to all of this monsters victims 🕊️
Did yu live in that area
The investigation here was a disgrace. Inept ranking officers of the law time and time again gave this maniac free licence. It may have been the 1970s but this remains the premier case study in how NOT to catch a murderer. Simply got lucky in the end.
Astounding ineptitude.
Thank God for Luck then. It was the 70's and the technology was somewhat lacking as were the skills in the job. Yes there was a few mistakes but none the less it was a massively hard job the Police faced and of course the bogus tape didnt help matters. They did their best mate.
@@azzawazza8635 At the time, serious crimes squads all over the country were infested with the type of copper who's idea of detective work was planting evidence or beating confessions out of suspects, a completely useless mentality and skillset when tracking down a serial killer. It's no surprise that sheer luck brought Sutcliffe down tbh, he wasn't even a particularly competent serial killer.
Paul Collyer Are you certain they tried their best.
9 times the same bearded man was overlooked.
Look at Ted Bundy! He killed many more, many clues, including his gf calling police to say she though her bf was the killer because of a composite sketch, his name and his vehicle all matched police description, but she was ignored, wasn’t identified as the killer until one victim solidly identified him ( this was many murders later), caught twice, escaped twice, killed many more. And a cop pulled him over for a driving violation and that’s how he was caught for the final time. And this was later than the Yorkshire Ripper. You think it only happens in Britain?
@@teresas8173 Bundy's crimes spanned an enormous geographical area - a key factor delaying his apprehension. And in his case the real failing was that his escape occured
Also I have not one thing against Britain and did not intend to impune the reputation of her police
Some seriously poor police work, repetitively. Ignorance of them degrading the sex workers as lesser wemon than the 'normals'. Excellent doc tho, really enjoyed it
@Blob B No it hasn't! !! Jesus said, 'love one another as I have loved you.' People love to judge!!!! He also spent time with the outcasts of the day, tax collectors, prostitutes, the rejected and unloved. These are the lessons we should all learn.
@Blob B People are good or bad with or without their mythologies. Mythology only serves to convince them they are good when they are not.
Many still fail to recognize that people make choices based on the options available to have good options means someone else does not.
@Blob B you're wrong there - I am no Christian, but if you're referring to the New Testament - its message is actually the opposite.
WHY do people give false alibis for those who ask? If my husband asked me to lie for him, I'd give him such a grilling he'd WISH he'd given himself up to the cops.
Mindrolling Sometimes it's fear. Sometimes it's protecting your own. It happens all the time. You'll hear mommy saying what a gentle person he was or neighbors saying what a perfect neighbor he was. They don't want to accept the truth.
Luckily both our sons are gentle, empathic beings. The eldest CAN'T lie- quite literally- he's amazing, but he he's not blunt or rude with it. The younger is prone to exaggeration and the odd lie by omission but that's all.
Mindrolling I bet if there was any blokes who were your husband at the time they would have said they did the murders to get away from you.
No doubt Mindrolling. I've never understood this either. I can see weak women hiding their spouses crimes or sticking up for them because they are WEAK, and are willing to lie to keep them and theirs still intact. But to not question your own spouse or be especially diligent in confirming your obvious suspicions from the point on in which you learn of that possiblity, I simply don't understand. Kudos to brave women (ex. Amber Frey) for doing the right thing and not being selfishly weak!!!
@@mindrolling24 It's possible to be both honest and polite at the same time.
Such scary music. Very effective and chilling accompanying excellent narration
lived 500 yards from where Josephine died at the time.
Mum started to get lifts to and from work after that.
Fucking dark days back then
Who's here watching this a few days after he died? Best thing that 2020 gave us.
Well having a 3 month lockdown where not having to work at a job you hate and getting paid is another great thing about 2020.
To think that he survived all these years makes me sick.
I was upset,
The documentary surviving the ripper,the male taxi driver that said Pete tried to kill him,I knew it wasn't him,and I were right,when you are talking to Pete it's hard to think that this man killed 13 and attacked 7 ,he is so shy,and come s across like butter wouldn't melt,it's wrong that they talk like prostitute's ask for it,,,..
@@jasrajgulshan6385 not only survived, they say he was living comfortably instead of harsh prison
I am not happy about Dick Holland being given a free pass in this documentary. This is a detective who was senior investigating officer for two major miscarriages of justice (Kiszko and Ward) - and he was the guy who buried Laptew's ID of Sutcliffe. Disgraceful.
As a kid I remember this was a very big story that went on a long time, while the police tracked Sutcliffe down. One thing that really stuck in my memory was reading that the police on 2 occasions questioned Jimmy Saville. That was a huge deal because at the time, he was one the the UK's biggest celebrities. I couldn't understand why as it made no sense and then it just went away. In hindsight it's clear you don't haul in a major celebrity twice for questioning about serial killings unless you have good reason. People knew what he was like even back then.
You might be right that they knew about Savile, but all men in Leeds were interviewed.
I was interviewed and I couldn't even drive at the time.
@@fatdaddy1996not just Leeds . My father in law was a lorry driver from Rotherham and he was questioned .
I wonder if Saville was the hoaxer , doing a Jim will fix it and having a pathetic laugh .
@@rozdoyle8872. No the hoaxer was caught and sentenced for Perverting The Course of Justice. He served four years. A pretty pathetic, chronically unemployed alcoholic with little going on in his life. Look up Wearside Jack.
I remember those days well, the fear. I'm from Rochdale, not far from the border with West Yorkshire. As an 8 year old I used to meet my mum from work every night and walk her home. Not that I could've done much to help.
Sutcliffe would not have got any woman into his car with witnesses. Too big of a pussy.
I'm from Rochdale as well but this was before my time. I was born in 88. My mum, grandmas and aunties would have been around back then, must have been terrifying for them.
I was a young teenager in Rawenstall. Can still remember them playing the tape everywhere to see if anyone recognized his voice. Scary time
@@almostscouse765 thats scary
But you cared, that was very kind of you.
prostitutes are human, dont dismiss them
Rachel Simson How many people look down on prostitutes as a lower life form. But let’s remember one thing, if there was no demand there would be no supply. I wonder how many belittled them and abused them whilst also using them 😕
I never talked bad about your mom?
@@loulou7963 yes, MEN SHOULD BE PROSECUTED FOR USING THEM!!!!
Fiona Gregory in countries that enforce the Nordic Model, that’s what’s done. The punters and pimps are criminalised, the prostituted women are not blamed for their own exploitation, and the prostituted women are also provided with services to help them get out of the life, off drugs, and train for better jobs. Every country needs the Nordic Model.
This. It made me angry that Lapish differentiated between "innocent" women and prostitutes. Murder victims are all innocent, doesn't matter what they do for money. None of them asked for that.
1:15:59 very sad when she said she could see her home from the attack ...
Yes, well a lot of the women were attacked close to their very own front door. Seem to be a pattern of his.
When in 1998 a serial children murderer here in Northern Germany raped and killed an eleven year old, the Mother said it was a comfort for her that he drove with the captured child along at their house. I cannot understand this. It would haunt me to know I was not knowing anything inside, and the poor little girl was forced complete helpless to see the home for the last time, and being brought to be murdered.
One of the best documentaries, I have watched so far
Those policemen in charge seem like the most lackadaisical bunch I've ever seen. About as sharp as a lamp-post.
Yorkshire police were notoriously shit back then. They don't have a much better reputation not tbh
Henry G great being wise after the event truth they got swamped with info couldn’t cope the floor was collapsing under weight of paper
Police are usually the dumbest ppl on the planet.
With all due respect they were stereotypical dour, obnoxious and arrogant Yorkshire men...
They tried to get Scotland Yard in a while before they mention on here but were met with huge resistance from Holland and Oldfield who were to stubborn and thick to accept help from more experienced and better Detectives.
You mean sharp as a sockful of soup
The first victims son came to my college for a talk he's such a inspiration
He came to my college today, that is why im watching this. 😂
oh yh me too that's why I watched this ahaha
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How the fuck did you get into college?
He also came into my college, how strange 😂
i feel sorry for maureen long that poor woman is still affected by what happened to her that evil man.
I gave a lift to one of the ripper team. It was the first time I ever felt sorry for a cop. He was exhausted and seemed close to tears. He told me that they were baffled. All I could do was to wish him luck.
33:07 Charming, so she was an old bag : / no wonder they never caught him with their disgusting attitude.
I didn’t like that comment either. This detective also said he “felt it more” when an innocent woman was murdered as opposed to the prostitutes.
Yep it was a disgraceful disgusting comment
As an old bag, myself----it is always refreshing, that my mind has not gone, dotty.... The elderly are devalued, invisible, and (if murdered) not worth wasting investigative funds.... Whew...!!! Thought I was crazy....🤭
@@marymusic8920 you are not an old bag. It's a disgrace referring to any woman like that. The man making this comment is an Utter myogynistic pig.
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What does he mean by innocent girls? Am I to believe that some of these girls deserved their deaths? Did this nasty attitude affect the way the police approached the investigation.
seventies policing and attitudes equals misogyny at its finest
Classic example of a judgmental misognist blaming the victims
I took it to mean innocent in another sense - innocent young girls who didn't think to fear the streets, who didn't know they could be in danger.
sinead looby prostitution is illegal therefore the prostitutes weren’t innocent. That doesn’t mean he was implying that they deserved to die tho, but yeah keep pushing ya little agenda kiddo
Fakey Yoi
The fact that it's been made illegal, for humans to deside what they wanna do to and with their own bodies. Is a crime in it self.
PS Just found out something from my mother which I never knew. She was working at the DVLA when the hoax letter came in and a team of around 50 spent months sifting through driving licence applications to try and find anyone with similar hand writing. Now bear in mind, all of these women/men were not hand writing experts, just civil servants who had been told to do this. Also bear in mind that you filled in applications using block capital letters so it was near enough impossible to distinguish any similarities. Thought this would be interesting for some to hear as it is yet more evidence of the complete and utter ineptitude of the police and this joke of an investigation.
Yep and when they finally do stumble upon the killer they get all the credit
Exactly what the report meant by trained clerks. How could they expect untrained clerks to match snippets of writing.
@@ninalee8705 It had to be somewhere other than West Yorkshire too, if he'd been arrested in W Yorkshire, they'd have made them let him go and not interviewed him. I think they were not just lucky to they actually followed through.
I think the police did their best with the facilities they had at the time.
@@cynthiatolman326 Since she's passed away, I can't ask her more questions about this but I know that she said she didn't feel comfortable doing it and many voiced their opinions at the time that they should NOT be doing such a serious task when they were not qualified. BUT they were basically told that if they didn't do it, they could be demoted or sacked so they had no choice. My mother became a Union Rep not long afterwards to make sure something like this never happened again and it hasn't (from what I know).
Great documentary. Very disturbing memories for having living through those horrific times. RIP to the victims. This bought shivers down my spine.
Watching several old movies based on true incidents and documentaries it's really spine chilling how the West was full of crimes bck thn. Even today but now atleast we're not totally helpless.
And Jimmy Savile lived not too far away either.
Poor girls these girls were just down on their luck they didn't deserve to be killed rip x
Its fucken terrible
they wanted easy/fast money.dont be a idiot all your life
@@LunchSays Don't be an ass all your life.
@@bradwiehn2886 they had a choice
He chose these women precisely because they were more vulnerable, not because he didn't agree with the way they earned their money.
I thought I'd be a little different & actually comment on the documentary!
Excellent documentary - well paced & researched, with good narration. I could have done with less of the incidental music (though compared to US crime dramas it is virtually non-existant) & more of the background of Peter Sutcliffe, but this is nit-picking. And, the use of original footage really added a chill to this disturbing story. Highly recommended. Thank-you.
+Martin Hugh Henley half of its lies
+Tommy Butler Tommy, as a guy who's worked as a film producer at, albeit, a fairly modest level, I can say that generally filmmakers are bloody hard-working individuals who take criticism pretty personally. To dismiss the years of work behind such a film in 4 words is rather disappointing, to say the least. Could you do the filmmakers the decency of pointing out the "lies" to which you refer? I presume you've watched this film in its entirety.
Well this documentary set out to chart the police investigation - with its cock-ups - and also to give a portrait of the victims not Peter Sutcliffe. The sad thing about crimes like these is that the criminal becomes a celebrity and the victims no more than shades.
Martin Hugh Well said. These Keystone cops contributed to the delay in stopping this Evil bastard. The victims were cast as shadows, in my opinion because most of them were prostitutes. Nevertheless, Sutcliffe should have been hung. That would of decreased his publicity.
Thanks for the review - I hate the sensationalist kind of portrayal true crime documentaries are prone to, and I agree with your critique about some of the heavy-handedness of the music - but you convinced me that it was worthwhile. Janet Suzman's narration was splendid, in particular.
You had the perfect chance to catch him when you got the five pound note you narrowed it down to a certain amout of factory workers but you did not check their car tyres lots of them men were local a lot back then would have cycled to work and not used a car it would not have taken you as long to find the correct car. Andy England 🇬🇧.
Yeah, that photo-fit was perfect. If they cross-referenced anything it seems like they would have gotten him.
EXCELLENT documentary on the Ripper! People still find this subject riveting 4 decades later, it's great to listen to such a well-narrated, interesting, factual commentary. Great work 👏🏽 Thank you
I remember watching this as a 19 yr old in early 2000 when it was 1st broadcast. I have just turned 43. I agree a superb example of filmmaking. I also recall the promo work the crew did on shows like this morning to advertise. I grew up in the leafy suburbs of north Leeds in relative comfort but always aware of the shroud cast upon the city a few years before. I recognise so many of the filming locations which is quite chilling. God bless
@jamesobrien1440 thanks for sharing. Creepy actually knowing the area in which the Ripper operated! So glad he was caught and justice prevailed but my heart goes out to those poor women and their families ❤️
Became infatuated with this case because I visited Leeds while it was going on. Remember the Jayne McDonald poster at the train station. Female narration is excellent. Very good doc.
Excellent documentary, thank you. I wish the officer who caught the ripper would have gotten his promotion, lol.
The officer should be conducting training for other police officers around the world.
The level of incompetence shown by the men leading this investigation is simply staggering. To focus all the attention on 'Wearside Jack' and to disregard both concerns about the validity of the tapes as well as any suspect without a Geordie accent is beyond belief.
Easy to say in retrospect when you have all the key evidence & know the outcome.
The detectives involved know they fucked up & I dare say if you were part of the investigation you wouldn't have fared any better then them, more likely a lot worse.
How about you blame the prick who sent the tapes??
runlarryrun77 Exactly I’m so glad that guy from Sutherland was prosecuted. He has blood on his hands. I don’t know how he sleeps at night!,
@@runlarryrun77 What absolute nonsense. It's standard procedure to follow up lines of enquiry instead of re-routing an investigation because of some letters and a tape and dismissing the possibility that they just might be sent by someone who was not the Ripper.
The following are facts:
1) Other high-ranking officers told George Oldfield of their grave doubts of the validity of the tapes and letters and supported their views with valid reasons.
2) The FBI profiler, Robert Ressler, told Oldfield immediately upon hearing the tape that it was a hoax.
3) One of Sutcliffe's surviving victims, Tracy Browne, told Oldfield that the man on the tape was not her attacker.
Despite this, Oldfield decided to plough on regardless. ANY competent police officer would fare better than him.
@Scott M OK.
@@dcasey77 The clue is in the fact he's from *Sunderland* where *Mackems* come from, not *Newcastle* where *Geordies* come from.