Still amazes me that he was only caught by chance. Had that officer not returned to the location where he was arrested then I dread to think how much longer he would’ve carried on getting away with murder. He was interviewed something like 12 times and they even joked about him resembling the illustrations of the Ripper. This case will always fascinate me.
My mother was a diagnosed schizophrenic she couldn't hold down a job and couldn't put a normal thought in her head. This horrible man was a sexualising psychopath who conned so many people.
I never believed he was schizophrenic. I have relatives with it. He got the idea like his brother said to lessen his true nature: that of evil psychopath. His wife at the time was diagnosed with schizophrenia, so he knew how to pretend to have it.
As a mental health recovery professional I've looked after and worked very closely with some extremely dangerous men who've committed some serious crimes and are all diagnosed as Schizophrenic but from my experience none of them are capable of maintaining any sort of normal everyday lifestyle so I find it difficult to believe Sutcliffe could not only continue planning and killing then escape constantly and then return not only to his wife and home life but also manage to hold down a regular full-time job which involved interaction with fellow work colleagues without arousing suspension its simply not possible for a person suffering from severe P. S nope he was nothing more then a dangerous sexual killer end of !
I love watching anything that Mark does. He always takes a different, intelligent but logical angle on subjects that everyone else has basically done the same. This was very refreshing and think it answers everything really. Well done Mark.
Cheers Mark, that was magnificent to have closure and justice for the victims of the YR. He was simply a monster who had no remorse, only narcissistic traits. My he never rest in Hell.
The sentence "I got to know Peter as Peter, the Yorkshire Ripper was 40 years ago" the art of convincing another I am not dangerous, if you listen carefully even at 73 he was still dangerous, chilling, more chilling is the people he managed to manipulate,
None of these girls deserved to die like they say .just because they worked on the streets my heart goes out all those girls .plus this monster should not of been allowed to speak with anyone.
He seems to be what I would call thick.......but worst of all are the women who want to MARRY this beast.? Germaine Greer was right when she said women are their own worst enemy. FFS....I wish I was on your doorstep....great image! I wonder how long she would last?
Im confused about the statement that former actor Bruce Jones gave saying that he saw Peters face in a bush as ive seen and heard a statement from Bruce Jones on another Interview and his statement was different as he said that he had pushed his Wheel Barrow over her body in the mud a few times before he saw her laying on the ground and that he felt guilty for walking and wheeling his Barrow over her body.
Not a shred of remorse coming from this awful man and always feeling sorry for himself. I don't believe for a minute that he had schizophrenia. I have relatives with this and it's impossible to hide during a psychosis.
27:52 That breathes the atmosphere of a shrine... Anyway, guys like Sutcliffe shouldn't have the privilege to communicate with anyone except family. Good documentary by the way!
"when he died he was already being forgotten and I hope this is the last film ever made about him".... then why did you make it Mark? There was no real news evidence or anything to bring families comfort. It rather repainted the families and took them back to that. Profiteering from the suffering he caused for your own gain
A great question. I guess it depends on the criteria. Numbers and depravity - West, for sure. If serial killing is not a requirement, Bridger/ Whiting. Vileness? Bellfield. Media coverage and lying on camera? Huntley/Stuart Hazell/Philpott. Crazy press images? Cregan/ Dennehy. Bamber also has a claim. Like I said - a great question.
Carl is telling you lies. When he went to see Peter after his arrest Peter said he didn't do then all. His father also said Peter told them he didn't do them all. That was before dick Holland offered him a private room in a secure mental hospital for his confessions to everything.
@@SnookerMafia-or6nu Not once before this did he ever say it! His original statements were he trundled over Jeans body many times. No mention of Sutcliffe being there. How has nobody pulled him up over this?! What an idiot.
@@rodkirkbride2230 Yes you’re absolutely right. He was searching for bricks for his allotment, Said he must have rolled his wheelbarrow over here on numerous occasions whilst searching. Then this ludicrous story came to light about Sutcliffe hiding in the bushes. Pathetic.
@@SnookerMafia-or6nu Williams Thomas would have (or should have) known this. Bruce Jones statement if true would have meant HE SAW Sutcliffe the very time he returned to retrieve the £5 note from Jeans handbag therefore making Bruce Jones the most credible witness so far into the investigation.
@@rodkirkbride2230 He must have known. Anyone who has studied the YR ripper case will have know the was talking complete tosh. I suppose because he’s famous it adds to the story.
Definitely psychopathy not hearing voices. And people like his fan boy are just enablers for people like him and there are too many of them. But I suspect his mission from god defence was probably something that although bs could have been inspired by the tape. Which he plausibly could have thought was something that happened because god was on his side and looking out for him. Not in a mental illness way, just in that typically psychopathic way. And from there on he used it to justify to himself what he was doing and rewrite history (like narcissistic people like to do often), and create a whole defence out of it. With McDonald, notice the way he blames the victim, not himself. Anyone who watches predator sting videos will have heard the line “why was she even on there to begin with” to take responsibility off of themselves. He said pretty much the same thing about her. As for his denial of sexual motive. That’s most likely because it is the embarrassing bit for him. Not the murders. And the murders covered up what he wanted to do that embarrassed him. As mad as that sounds. The whole necro theory is a good one, that might well be a part of it and what embarrassed him. He went to great lengths to say how sick people like that were. And often denials with such condemnation for “other people” are a clue to what they’re doing themselves. What would be important to know regarding the necro thing, is whether it was something he used to bring up in conversation to people before he was caught. Eg something like talking about his work as a grave digger and randomly bringing up the subject whilst qualifying it by saying something like “people like that are disgusting”. If there is evidence of those sort of things randomly coming up in conversation I’d be more confident on that theory to the motive.
wasnt hard to see where the police went wrong, thay didnt refine the search useing the information thay had. this would have cut down the amount of man hours and paper work down by a massive amount.
The Police didn't have computers then so refining the search would have been impossible, especially with so many attacks in different areas. They did have tunnel vision about the tape though.
@@starwood213 some other police followed the brand new five pound note trail, thay narrowed down where that fiver went too, by finding out what time that fiver left the bank which led to just 2 diffrent companys pay rolls, totaling only 300 hundard workers between them who could have received that fiver. one of which was an engineering company, remember the engineering oil evidance, but the police in charge at the time didnt do this, thay insted interviewed every employee of every company that went to the bank that hole day, which gave them 6,000 employees to interview. see how thay created a monumental amount of work for themselfs. another person used an old RAF WW2 method of charting where german air bases were located by where the bombs were droped at what time of night, thay used this same method to chart where the killer most likely lived or where he was flying from just like the bombers, his prediction was the killer was based ither in shipley or manningham, look on the map to see where sutcliffes house was located... almost exacly between these two areas. yes the method used could not have bin more spot on. all this was deliberately ignored along with so much else. theres no excuse when u reseach what wasnt done by those in charge next to what was done by those at the same time who werent in charge
His dad John was a brutal domestic abuser, the children were petrified of him. Violence was a regular occurrence in the Sutcliffe household. May have had some affect on his mental wellbeing. Not an excuse though obviously.
Mark Williams Thomas is neither respectful nor honourable. His recent reporting in cases making theories and misinformation public that has been distressing to families has shown that. He is arrogant and egotistical who thinks he is some super detective when reality is he is now nothing more then a journalist who interferes in Police investigations and releases wild theories and misinformation for clickbait views to profiteer from people's suffering. How is he providing "closure" to families when all he does is cause further distress to those families?
Peter wasn't as bad as some would have us believe, he didn't like queers and paedophiles and that is to be commended, he had moral standards and spoke out against these perverts.
Still amazes me that he was only caught by chance. Had that officer not returned to the location where he was arrested then I dread to think how much longer he would’ve carried on getting away with murder. He was interviewed something like 12 times and they even joked about him resembling the illustrations of the Ripper. This case will always fascinate me.
That super fan has got to be mental
you say that but some mug will give him plenty of money for his collection
My mother was a diagnosed schizophrenic she couldn't hold down a job and couldn't put a normal thought in her head. This horrible man was a sexualising psychopath who conned so many people.
I never believed he was schizophrenic. I have relatives with it. He got the idea like his brother said to lessen his true nature: that of evil psychopath. His wife at the time was diagnosed with schizophrenia, so he knew how to pretend to have it.
Wait and this has what to do with Peter ?
@KTSDRE-n1r I am saying he wasn't a schizophrenic a true schizophrenic can not plan things like he did!
As a mental health recovery professional I've looked after and worked very closely with some extremely dangerous men who've committed some serious crimes and are all diagnosed as Schizophrenic but from my experience none of them are capable of maintaining any sort of normal everyday lifestyle so I find it difficult to believe Sutcliffe could not only continue planning and killing then escape constantly and then return not only to his wife and home life but also manage to hold down a regular full-time job which involved interaction with fellow work colleagues without arousing suspension its simply not possible for a person suffering from severe P. S nope he was nothing more then a dangerous sexual killer end of !
A lorry driver? I assumed he worked for the BBC.
@paulwally9007 hahahahahaha 🤣 he wasn't as bad as them at the beeb "so I'm told"
Luckily not..if he'd worked for the BBC, he'd have been protected and murdered loads more women
I love watching anything that Mark does. He always takes a different, intelligent but logical angle on subjects that everyone else has basically done the same. This was very refreshing and think it answers everything really. Well done Mark.
Cheers Mark, that was magnificent to have closure and justice for the victims of the YR. He was simply a monster who had no remorse, only narcissistic traits. My he never rest in Hell.
I'll never understand why they let him out on day release to star in his own musical there's a few clips up on RUclips of it
@Venmaylove really? Didn't know that
😅😅@@Venmaylove
@@Venmaylovehaha this cracked me up
@@markjones1337your kidding right
The sentence "I got to know Peter as Peter, the Yorkshire Ripper was 40 years ago" the art of convincing another I am not dangerous, if you listen carefully even at 73 he was still dangerous, chilling, more chilling is the people he managed to manipulate,
Should the title be "The Lost Tapes"? "The Lots Tapes" doesn't make sense.
If only lost forever!
Easy mistake.
The lots taps
@@madness5502
turned to salt 😆
"with his wife"
for not doing the dishes.... LOL 😉👍
"just saw ya liverbird 😃
"alright-kidder"
laughing more now!! 🤣
He gave himself away when he said he needed to do the next differently. Not sick- it’s his excuse- he is SM driven.
None of these girls deserved to die like they say .just because they worked on the streets my heart goes out all those girls .plus this monster should not of been allowed to speak with anyone.
I remember we used to call for free in norwegian phone booths to England and listen to "The Ripper" who turned out to be fake.
How come this has only come out now ? he sounds normal thats the scary bit for me , he could be propping the bar up with Fred Dibner !!
I was only a teenager on Merseyside but this individual caused fear unparalleled.
He befriended a farmer in Cheshire who let him park up over night.many many times police have never looked around there..
How did you no this mate ?
Was it anywhere near where they found the body of Jackie Ansell Lamb?
Its sp offensive to suggest he changed and became the ripper especially to say after a bike Accident clearly he was ALWAYS the ripper.
Fred West also claimed that he had suffered Brain damage after having a motor cycle crash
I wonder how these super fans would feel if it was their mother/Sister who he murdered? Why not support the victims instead?
I think you meant the lost tapes
I think it’s fair to say this Doc features two psychos……Brenda being one of. 😮
He seems to be what I would call thick.......but worst of all are the women who want to MARRY this beast.? Germaine Greer was right when she said women are their own worst enemy. FFS....I wish I was on your doorstep....great image! I wonder how long she would last?
Don't forget he WAS married, albeit to a woman who was schizophrenic ...
Im confused about the statement that former actor Bruce Jones gave saying that he saw Peters face in a bush as ive seen and heard a statement from Bruce Jones on another Interview and his statement was different as he said that he had pushed his Wheel Barrow over her body in the mud a few times before he saw her laying on the ground and that he felt guilty for walking and wheeling his Barrow over her body.
Mark, when are you going to show us your case on Jay Slater , thanks
He went home for tea and when his Mrs asked him what he wanted, he said he could murder a couple of tarts
he went out and got hammered on the weekend.
😂
You're going to hell, I'll see you down there 😂
Hahaha made me chuckle
Sick bastard
The police showed the public what they were incapable
Not a shred of remorse coming from this awful man and always feeling sorry for himself. I don't believe for a minute that he had schizophrenia. I have relatives with this and it's impossible to hide during a psychosis.
Levi Belfield also killed with hammer
Seventies hair. Truly criminal.
If 70s styles were “criminal” then today’s fads/styles qualify as federal offenses.
That’s the real killer here
money for old rope...heard this before
27:52 That breathes the atmosphere of a shrine... Anyway, guys like Sutcliffe shouldn't have the privilege to communicate with anyone except family. Good documentary by the way!
"when he died he was already being forgotten and I hope this is the last film ever made about him".... then why did you make it Mark? There was no real news evidence or anything to bring families comfort. It rather repainted the families and took them back to that. Profiteering from the suffering he caused for your own gain
nk the confession about Marcella Claxton was a first,
With Sutcliffe and Brady both dead, who would be the most infamous british murderer still alive? Rose West maybe?
A great question. I guess it depends on the criteria. Numbers and depravity - West, for sure. If serial killing is not a requirement, Bridger/ Whiting. Vileness? Bellfield. Media coverage and lying on camera? Huntley/Stuart Hazell/Philpott. Crazy press images? Cregan/ Dennehy. Bamber also has a claim. Like I said - a great question.
Robert Napper
@@Robblue55 Bang on there. Good call.
I wonder how many other "Unknown" victims there are of Napper @@Robblue55
Sidney cooke
Its the comment
"These people are really sick"
What the actual !!!
Astonishing
Five pound note was his undoing he give to lady out of wage packet. Did he know Jimmy saville b4 he got caught.
Carl is telling you lies. When he went to see Peter after his arrest Peter said he didn't do then all.
His father also said Peter told them he didn't do them all. That was before dick Holland offered him a private room in a secure mental hospital for his confessions to everything.
Les Battersby talkin absolute shite.
Absolutely. Claiming he saw Sutcliffe lurking in the bushes. A shame he feels he has to lie about such a horrific event.
@@SnookerMafia-or6nu Not once before this did he ever say it! His original statements were he trundled over Jeans body many times. No mention of Sutcliffe being there. How has nobody pulled him up over this?! What an idiot.
@@rodkirkbride2230 Yes you’re absolutely right. He was searching for bricks for his allotment, Said he must have rolled his wheelbarrow over here on numerous occasions whilst searching. Then this ludicrous story came to light about Sutcliffe hiding in the bushes. Pathetic.
@@SnookerMafia-or6nu Williams Thomas would have (or should have) known this. Bruce Jones statement if true would have meant HE SAW Sutcliffe the very time he returned to retrieve the £5 note from Jeans handbag therefore making Bruce Jones the most credible witness so far into the investigation.
@@rodkirkbride2230 He must have known. Anyone who has studied the YR ripper case will have know the was talking complete tosh. I suppose because he’s famous it adds to the story.
Definitely psychopathy not hearing voices. And people like his fan boy are just enablers for people like him and there are too many of them.
But I suspect his mission from god defence was probably something that although bs could have been inspired by the tape. Which he plausibly could have thought was something that happened because god was on his side and looking out for him. Not in a mental illness way, just in that typically psychopathic way. And from there on he used it to justify to himself what he was doing and rewrite history (like narcissistic people like to do often), and create a whole defence out of it.
With McDonald, notice the way he blames the victim, not himself. Anyone who watches predator sting videos will have heard the line “why was she even on there to begin with” to take responsibility off of themselves. He said pretty much the same thing about her.
As for his denial of sexual motive. That’s most likely because it is the embarrassing bit for him. Not the murders. And the murders covered up what he wanted to do that embarrassed him. As mad as that sounds. The whole necro theory is a good one, that might well be a part of it and what embarrassed him. He went to great lengths to say how sick people like that were. And often denials with such condemnation for “other people” are a clue to what they’re doing themselves.
What would be important to know regarding the necro thing, is whether it was something he used to bring up in conversation to people before he was caught. Eg something like talking about his work as a grave digger and randomly bringing up the subject whilst qualifying it by saying something like “people like that are disgusting”. If there is evidence of those sort of things randomly coming up in conversation I’d be more confident on that theory to the motive.
I wonder if he talked to Saville about the necro thing.
wasnt hard to see where the police went wrong, thay didnt refine the search useing the information thay had. this would have cut down the amount of man hours and paper work down by a massive amount.
The Police didn't have computers then so refining the search would have been impossible, especially with so many attacks in different areas. They did have tunnel vision about the tape though.
@@starwood213 some other police followed the brand new five pound note trail, thay narrowed down where that fiver went too, by finding out what time that fiver left the bank which led to just 2 diffrent companys pay rolls, totaling only 300 hundard workers between them who could have received that fiver. one of which was an engineering company, remember the engineering oil evidance, but the police in charge at the time didnt do this, thay insted interviewed every employee of every company that went to the bank that hole day, which gave them 6,000 employees to interview. see how thay created a monumental amount of work for themselfs.
another person used an old RAF WW2 method of charting where german air bases were located by where the bombs were droped at what time of night, thay used this same method to chart where the killer most likely lived or where he was flying from just like the bombers, his prediction was the killer was based ither in shipley or manningham, look on the map to see where sutcliffes house was located... almost exacly between these two areas. yes the method used could not have bin more spot on. all this was deliberately ignored along with so much else. theres no excuse when u reseach what wasnt done by those in charge next to what was done by those at the same time who werent in charge
His dad John was a brutal domestic abuser, the children were petrified of him. Violence was a regular occurrence in the Sutcliffe household. May have had some affect on his mental wellbeing. Not an excuse though obviously.
I would understand that he attacked father figures then, not women
Lots of this went on then, and also occurs today! Less than 99% are murderers!
@@squaretriangle9208 exactly!
Mark Williams Thomas is neither respectful nor honourable. His recent reporting in cases making theories and misinformation public that has been distressing to families has shown that.
He is arrogant and egotistical who thinks he is some super detective when reality is he is now nothing more then a journalist who interferes in Police investigations and releases wild theories and misinformation for clickbait views to profiteer from people's suffering.
How is he providing "closure" to families when all he does is cause further distress to those families?
RIP Peter Sutcliffe 👊
Rest in peace ??? Would you care to elaborate on that please ?
@Mark64W Yes, unfortunately Peter Sutcliffe passed away 2/3 years ago during covid.
Peter wasn't as bad as some would have us believe, he didn't like queers and paedophiles and that is to be commended, he had moral standards and spoke out against these perverts.
He bashed women over the head with a hammer and mutilated their genitals. I think that makes him as made as people have made him out to be.
When Carl told me about that he’s girlfriend going home in car with Peter it blew my mind
No😊
the lots tapes ???? or should it be LOST. ffs you cant even get that right. i worked on this case will see what other bs comes out.
you are as sick as him