The 2021 Audi e-tron Sportback hits Tesla in its blind spot!
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- MotoMan drives the full EV Audi e-tron Sportback - a sorta coupe SUV - in this combo DESIGN, TECH &, FIRST DRIVE REVIEW as well as in a round of our famous #OptionsGame and learns that the Audi e-tron Sportback is different than other Audi cars & SUVs. That difference goes beyond its propulsion system to retain some of the technology and engineering hallmarks that make an Audi an Audi and in doing so, makes for a different kind of EV.
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The e-tron is the best-selling EV in Norway in 2020. Surprising but true. Dusts the Model 3.
Actually the best selling car regardless type😀 Love my e-tron.
Doesn't surprise me... :)
@Just think alternative sources. Why not wait and see to find out instead of opposing? We see what’s wrong with leaving things as they are and humanity is going in another direction. BTW, the world doesn’t care what Biden and 4.7% of the population do. China, India, and Europe are leading the world in Ev’s.
@Just think no faith in solar or wind? ‘No’ is not a policy or governing stance. The world is moving forward w/o American knuckle draggers. I’ve owned every luxury suv short of a Cullinen and I’m buying an e-tron. Not spending 100k over a vehicle life on fuel to prove I’m a patriot.
@Just think Nobody respects your opinion. Go away.
This might sound crazy but the Siam Beige with Black Optics looks freakin HOT on this vehicle in person! I seent it! At my local Audi dealer....
Great review! Looking at this to replace my Tesla Model 3 LR AWD. After owning 2 Tesla long range cars for two years now, I completely agree. You don’t need more than about 200 miles of range...175 is plenty. I do frequent trips of 600 miles plus in my Tesla. During that time, I’ve tracked how often I stop for various things...food, rest area, stretch, etc...It’s about every 1.5 hours. That’s about 160 miles at most. As long as there are places to charge, it’s plenty.
Love the back of the car but the front just looks like all the other audi vehicles
Nice review, I think we need to 'add lightness' to the wishlist. 5700 pounds and only 218 miles of range? Presumably a long-range version would be even heavier...
Intriguing video as always M. Do we have a rough timeframe for the return of inside the Motoman Studio? Aware of the obvious complications but just curious. Cheers!
If it were up to me, we would have been back months ago . . . but sadly, a function of travel, the guest's comfort level and the fact that the show is very much dependent on *in person* rapport. I am hoping by the summer . . . but like all things in life you can't control . . . a guess. By far, the aspect of my job I miss the most.
The average range is balanced by how fast it can charge at a DC fast charger.
Unfortunately the electrify america chargers I’ve used are mostly running 30-40% of advertised speeds making DCFC charging about 90min. I have been able to charge at the full 150kw and those times are amazing. It’s unfortunate that EA isn’t supporting their chargers like Tesla is.
It just sucks to go on a road trip, plan out your route and find that the chargers along the route will now take 90 min versus 30. Also doesn’t help on a road trip the range drops to about 170ish per charge.
Yeah sorry you don't seem to understand the math. A BEV with better single charge Range also means more effective DC Fast charge. It means Mile per Minute charge rate is better. You do not just consider the Kwh or Battery Percentage on it's own. The amount of distance per time is what we want in practice.
Personally as a possible EV buyer in the future I want to charge less. It is like telling me "well it doesn't matter that your car can only go 200 miles because its tank is small, you refuel faster". Ummm, I would rather refuel LESS not MORE when I go on a trip
2.6 Tons....yeah! I know of 60HP agricultural tractors that are lighter....VAG need to work on this, pronto!
@@TheNacropolice The goal is 300 Miles & 30 minutes. That is actually really reasonable Cross Continent ratio of driving vs charging.
Correct me if I am wrong but it does qualify for the 179 tax deduction. True the vehicle itself is under 6000lbs but calculating the GVWR is above that which qualifies it for the tax deduction in the USA
@MotoManTV, Do you think during the next lull in automotive news, you could do an interview or two with the owners of some of those planes sitting around that hangar?
Holy BEEP might as well call it 5800 lbs .... that’s full size pickup truck territory. In dire need of Weight Watchers lol
IIRC that's what Tesla filed to the EPA for the Smaller battery CyberTruck.
I've driven one and it doesn't drive like a porker. I'm actually pretty impressed with where Audi is going with EV's.
Audi all the way. The only things they need to advance on is battery range and little faster 0-60 time. But most importantly range. 5.5 seconds is enough
*The new Nio 150KWH Battery available in the Chinese market has 600+ Mile (1000KM) range for a similar heavy SUV. Even the older one has 450 miles range*
How's the rear visibility? 11:27 kinda looks like you've got a mail slot to look through...
Soon the segment will be crowded with options. Now...there is still a clear front runner, and second place is pretty far back - like about 100 miles of EPA range back.
what is a Cork on a Pound in a Foot?
One of the quietest car I've ever drove. 200 mile range is enough and I can charge at 150KW, up to 80% at EA chargers. Audi skipped out few features for a car that's costs 80k+ such as heated steering wheel, reclining rear seats, and unusable app.
Wow, that's a big car. It's nice but for my target application - SF Bay Area commuting with San Jose being the hub of my spoke, as it were - the e-tron is grandiose when compared to the EV alternatives I'd consider. Mustang Mach-E and VW ID.4 make more sense and might even be more fun.
Thor’s hammer in the backlights one on one copied from Volvo.
But nicely done!
Can you please do a video on the MB C63S coupe? I want one and I would love to hear your thoughts.
Have a look through our back catalog . . . Did the convertible years ago on a wonderful track: ruclips.net/video/YVqm06HWQVU/видео.html.
@@MotoManTV Thank you I only went back to around 7 months ago.
The E-Tron is a huge success for Audi - yes it's too heavy, the battery plus luxury and good build quality. The ride is very smooth its a great glider. Batteries must be developed further like the new Quantum tech - that would shrink the battery weight dramatically by much higher energy density. Still charging time is an issue - which is the Audi´s best party trick, a problem for all EV´s. For long distances they are not there yet for me - none of the EV´s. My wishlist, better battery and charging tech! Lower weight, light batteries, charging time at least by half...well not this year I know
@Just think That's a political question, that does not help, the US is way behind in production of renewal energy - like below 20% which is a shame for the great country. But you are right if they keep their fossil energy dependency that high - EV´s don't make that big of a difference, but they are still more efficient than ICE cars. We need to get out of burning oil for producing energy. There are many states already which produce half of their energy with renewals, that has to grow.
@Just think I don't want to burst any bubble here. We need renewal energy much more than now, burning fossil is not sustainable, Many countries over here use renewable energy - Norway tops with always 100%, that is the dream country of EV´s.
@Just think I don't care about politics - not on a global scale, Paris accord is the intention to go in the right direction but don't force anything, so falls short but it's a first at least. I am talking pure science. We need more renewal, we in europe are behind too - but the US is a different story.
@Just thinkI don't know what you are talking about - fact is the cleaner we produce energy and drive the better for everybody.
@Just think Windmills are build here in Germany / Europe, not China, rare earth is sparse, but they develop around it, constantly maintained and updated of course - but they are not the answer for renewal, they are just one smaller part. The Energy mix is hydro, Wind, Solar etc. etc. Fossil is not the future and dirty, we all globally need to get rid of it. Think out of the box light having solar farms in the deserts, delivering hydrogen to us, that would make sense too. Also nuclear is the bridge technology. There is cold fusion on the horizon. Our innovation will show us where to go. Just EV is also not a solution for now, does not work. May also we will see hydrogen cars more and more - or the battery technology is leapfrogging it - exciting times!
Is there places to charge this thing? And how long would it take to go from E to F
Did you watch the video?
Look up PlugShare or for the fastest network electrify America and EVGo. Yes there are fast chargers out there.
The great Audi Understeer got carried over to their EVs
Electric cars always feel quick off the line. Instant torque and all that. They definitely lose some of that as you go up to higher speeds. And your battery range tends to fall off a cliff. 5.5 seconds doesn't seem all that good for something that expensive
It surprises me how similar this is to the Mach-E! At least on paper or in 2D. Similar design, similar execution, similar wheels, similar purpose, similar range, similar capacity, same stereo manufacturer! How does this survive after the second year?
Same way the Q5, the GLC and the Lexus do . . . some people are willing to pay a bit more for a premium brand.
@@MotoManTV all three of those cars are in the same bracket and none of them look alike. They certainly have nothing in common with a RAV4, CR-V, or Escape.
These two would look nearly identical to a lay person. Is every car company going to build an electric high roof hatch-sedan then claim electric cars won't sell because they can't get any market share?
The wheels are actually quite different on the Mach E. They are skinny AF to artificially increase range.
@@jonathansage2147 yes on this model they are skinny and smaller but their machined face and geometric shapes are reminiscent of each other in pictures or video.
I own a 2019 e tron and the range is horrible. I wish I would get the 204 miles estimated the was “promised”. Light years from other EVs
I haven’t seen a Model Y video on this channel? Will you be posting one? Would love to hear you’re thoughts
You won't. Tesla has never returned a phone call or an e-mail.
@@MotoManTV Yeah, they don’t have a PR department anymore. Have you tried doing a test drive?
It's not a cage fight of EV vs. EV. It's a fight for buyers of any vehicle. Tesla isn't competing with other EV's, it's competing with ICE or EV. Tesla isn't going to concern itself with limited marketshare from another low volume EV when it needs to grow production to replace 94,000,000 ICE vehicles made each year. After 26,000 units production of Audi e-tron Sportback was shutdown in April 2020 due to lack of batteries. Tesla made 500,000 cars.
Its somewhat a handsome car, but my God, that color/trim/wheel spec is just atrocious.
If I ever ran a car company, I'll ban these kinds of specs from press shots & media tests.
As always, excellent work, M.
Gah the eTron SUV were a silly mistake. Audi has a legendary reputation for Station Wagons. These early eTron should of been Sport Wagons. Imagine an eTron S6 Avant, low sleek aerodynamic.
With no sales in America because everyone here hates a hatchback but buys a suv which is a hatchback
I will not purchase any EV until they achieve a minimum of 400 miles consistently.
part of being an early adopter
They'll probably hit 500 miles of range in the next 5 years.
Agreed
My last “off road” excursion was 260 dirt and gravel miles with not a charger in sight
@@slowanddeliberate6893 The new Nio 150KWH Battery just came out has 600+ Mile (1000KM) range for a similar heavy SUV. Even the older one has 450 miles range
@@mikeparker2486 Cool.
It needs a freaking rear wiper blade!
ALL of these "coupefied" cars need a wiper blade fornsuch a slanted glass. Clearly, engineers have not considered climates with heavy/frequent rain or snow. It is not an expensive addition and it is not a comicated design integration problem.
Of all 4-door "coupe" vehicles available as of today, the only I'd drop some money for is the Q8, ONLY becaise it has a rear wiper blade 'cause I'm not a fan of its interior.
Rear wiper blade, please!
218 mile range is a deal breaker model Y long range is getting 326 miles of range @ 50k we drove the E-Tron it & picked the Tesla
ppl acting like they drive 300 miles a day minimum. If you're taking a road trip, you rent a car anyway.
@@jw6188 your missing the point why would you pay more for less range? it’s simple math
@@jw6188 at highway speeds EVs don't achieve their EPA range. So 218 becomes 170. In the cold, EVs don't achieve their stated range. So 170 becomes 150. For even moderate distance trips that gets very annoying. Especially since you don't want to DC fast charge much past 80% SOC or it will take forever, so 150 becomes 120 on the second leg. And that's just straight terrible.
I'd hate to have an $80k car that obligated me to renting any time I wanted to drive further than a daily commute. Who wants to spend a long period driving in a car they don't know or necessarily like?
Too heavy, not enough design changes to differentiate it from other Audi gasoline-powered vehicles. Also, you should have shown the rear seat and cargo area. Good review, however.
Audi needs to make this thing lose a crapload of weight, ditch brick shaped front end, and get more efficient HVAC and drivetrain and maybe it could close to 250 mile range. 300 miles is not coming so soon at this price.
Same wheelbase as a E-Class but as tall as a Cayenne. So Audi reinvented the BMW 5 Series GT but without the ugly design?
No one is buying this over a model S. Forget about the range and power advantages, what does autopilot and the supercharger network add in value?
All electric vehicles barring the Taycan look stupid and frumpy. I don't know why but I hate every last one. I can tolerate the model 3 in some colors just barely.
Biggest issue is the range, for that price the range is absolutely pathetic. 204 at best? Yeah, no, that is just pathetic
Mils or millimeters? Not the same.
"A mil is a measurement that equals one-thousandth of an inch, or 0.001 inch. One mil also equals 0.0254 mm (millimeter). Thus a mil is not the same thickness as a millimeter."
@@apocalypse487 I've never heard 0.001 inch called a mil, only ever a thou. What country are you from?
@@apocalypse487 In Australia, as we are metric we make all measurements in millimetres. When quoting a measurement we often shorten it to “mil”, when reading it out. I have never heard of 1/1000th of an inch being shortened to “mil” only heard it shortened to “thou”.
You lost me at 2,6 TONS!
Tesla model S: 4815 /Model X: 5498 lb / Model Y: 4416 lb
2,6 Tons? Nein, danke!
Really? The "e-tron Sportback hits Tesla in its blind spot"? Where can I buy one? When will it be delivered? Or is this kind of like the Badger. It's going to kick Tesla's ass Real Soon Now! Right? Right?????
Looks like accord crosstour that a teenager modded at autozone
This car looks extremely "80s"
Show me someone that bought the Audi etron and I'll show you someone that didn't do their homework before making their EV purchase.
So it’s ugly slow expensive and short range. What’s the point
Looks like an older focus to me.
Reviewing an EV, any EV, without having owned it and lived with its compromises and flaws is akin to reviewing a restaurant without ever having eaten the food. Look for reviews of the Audi etron by owners, the story is more complicated than this review belies.
Nice car - sure. But Audi cannot compete with Tesla on PRICE. I'm willing to bet Audi is losing money on each one they make; and Tesla keeps CUTTING prices.
Audi is making money off each car now - Tesla is making their money on the stock exchange which is quite clever, not critiquing them
Bavarian Car Enthusiast
Explain to me how Tesla, the company, is making money from their share price appreciation.
@@richardm5589 they get a lot of money to invest in their development which normally need to be paid by car sales. Also they are making huge money from carbon credits. Tesla is earning 1.2 Billion $ just from that.
Very smart and unique.
Bavarian Car Enthusiast Bavarian Car Enthusiast FUD. Yes, Tesla makes money from carbon credits - it’s “free” money what company wouldn’t take it. Tesla is making money even if you exclude the carbon credits. Please do your research. Respectfully
@@richardm5589 When people stop investing money in tesla stock ,Tesla will be dead. Tesla can t survive with the poor amount of units they are delivering.
E tron is selling like a cake in Europe last year and that will continue this year, while Model S and X are sitting on shelves. Audi like other car makers in Europe get subvention from EU for going green so they will doing fine.
Where are the Tesla killers?
All these vehicle's in this class are looking the same. 😣
No
Specks not impressive. 214 mile range? Slow. Expensive and ugly.
Looks like a fat Chrysler 200
Far too heavy to ever be efficient.
Just Think - where do you Qanon nut jobs get this crap? Biden is not, and indeed cannot, “shut down oil, coal and natural gas”. You start with a lie and then use it to rationalize your anti-American propaganda. Go back to whichever country your ancestors could not succeed in.
@Just think Yes, anti-American. You whack jobs have no idea what this country is about. When fascism comes to America, it will be draped in the American flag. All two bit dictators and fascists assert they truly love their country. They don’t. Go back to looking for that child pornography ring in the basement of a pizza restaurant.
Audi is underrated. Tesla is overrated. I own Audi vehicles,, but Tesla stock.
2nd thumbs up!
They cannot sell these in volume and make money on them. They have too low margins, and they cannot find batteries for millions of cars. Only Tesla can do this in the next two years.
Another VW "Tesla killer" Surely under performing, over priced, definitely over rated. Na, I will take definitely a tomorrow's Tesla today, and definitely not a yesterday Audi with a new skin.
Audi shit.
BUY more LI Auto stock and less NIO. SELL way overpriced TSLA stock
LOL Li Auto is starting with a Petrol Hybrid. Dead concept.