Audi e-tron Sportback - 1000 COLD miles taught me everything - Good and Bad !
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- Опубликовано: 20 июл 2024
- Give anyone the key to an electric vehicle for a few hours and it will impress them. Give them the key for 3 weeks and they will get to know it...worts and all ! The Audi e-tron Sportback is an impressive car. Great performance and such a relaxing car to do big miles miles in, and I've certainly done that.
It scores high for looks, equipment and comfort. However in the cold weather we had during my test the range was disappointing.
A big thank to Audi for letting me have the car for this mid term loan.
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Pete. Your day job really comes through when you do the specialist type of review. Very good at talking the viewer through the experience.
Thanks Steven 🙏🏻
Really enjoyed what is a very objective and honest view. I had the e-tron for a few days & couldn’t agree more. Fantastic in many ways, a couple of key drawbacks though. Best succinct review I’ve seen on this- thanks Pete.
I have just watched you grinning ear to ear driving that Integrale. Made my evening that. That noise.
Great car 👌
Watched last night Peter and forgot to comment! Brilliant and honest review as always and some really interesting points about a motor that in my opinion is one of the best looking EVs around! Cheers buddy and keep up the great work!
Can’t imagine going on eBay or to a breaker’s yard asking for a replacing wing camera...
😂😂😂
Perhaps in 25 years time you might get them.
not with out a bank loan or may be robbing a bank. this car is going to be twice the price to repair
So pleased you mentioned the issue with camera mirrors. The fact you can’t change the angle you see by just moving your head makes them so dangerous. Surprised they put the screens for them so low on the doors too. Cracking review as always Ped!
That’s a really good point on the disastrous mirror tech 🤦🏽♂️ you’re right. It doesn’t move.. lenses get dirty...
I have them, they are fine.
@@philhartley7551 So, do I and agree. I think the OP had to make a video and had to find “something” to focus on. They provide excellent view with NO blind spots, the lens has yet to get dirty, less drag, no wind noise, feel very solid and can fold backwards and forwards if bumped and I think look very good from a style perspective.
What complete nonsense. They are not disastrous. They are unbelievably easy to use and the quality is perfect
Really enjoy your vids and always look forward to your vids. Keep up the great work all the best
Great to hear 🙏🏻
A great balanced review Pedro. My sister has the regular (non sport-back) version of the same car and sees the same problem with range. You’ve rightly pointed out that building better infrastructure is going to be key for sorting out this vehicles shortcomings. Quite simply, there isn’t enough fast chargers out in the regions. Hopefully once we are through Covid, government and business can come together to build a world-leading national network. What a place to sit whilst you’re travelling though 🙂
Nice honest review on this one Pete, Love the looks, the tech involved and just a great package, but, i would agree with you and the range of these cars are/ will be a big key selling point for the future of any brand. keep it up PP, great watch.
Thanks Tony 👍
Fantastic video Peter. Great review and very informative.
Incredibly honest and interesting review Pete. Lovely car mate, and I’m sure Audi appreciate and will of course take onboard all feedback 👌👍
Will all the 'feedback' double the efficiency, Audi?
Hi Peddlers, great vid & review!
I completely agree with your view that a range of 180miles will put a lot of people off. We seriously considered the original e-tron, but the test drive car showed a range of just 170 miles and we couldn’t stop thinking, £70k+ for a car that will barely do 2hrs on motorway before we’d need to stop and charge!
It's an Audi, you'll gain a load of motorway range by slipstreaming 2 metres from the car in front 😀
It’s a no from me and that was before I heard the price.
Evening Pete looking forward to this one.
Cameras blew my mind.Wing mirrors all day long for me Ped.👍
Looking forward to this. I think electric isn't quite ready for me yet!!
I’m not ready for it either the range needs to get a lot better
Could well be the case but not all electric cars are inefficient expensive Audi etrons with relatively poor range.
I'm old enough to know what a mile is (I have to, I drive a 1958 Morris Minor 1000!) and I can easily convert km into miles and vice versa. When reviewing EVs , however, it would probably be helpful for most people living outside the UK, if you could state range figures in both kilometres and miles. Other than that, your review is brilliant! - I think the battery technology in EVs still has along way to go before I'd ever consider making the switch to electric (although we may all be forced to adopt EVs, eventually). For the time being, however, I think I'll be happily relying on the 948cc's of raw internal combustion power in my Morrie to get me about town.
Love the idea of rear view cameras, your insights re how good they aren't ( depth perception, 2d effect) were not something I had previously considered. Think I'll be sticking with mirrors for the foreseeable future..Thanks for the info Ped!
Give them a try. They might grow on you 😜
Hello from the United States! Found your channel earlier this week and already am a huge fan!
Wow that is AWESOME to hear 👍 Welcome to the channel 👊
Hi I’m from the states as well. I’ve been a long time follower and fan of Sir Pete. He does fantastic reviews of all kinds of cars on here! Also this community of peddlers are one of the best community’s on RUclips! So kick back explore the backlog of exceptional videos and welcome to a great community and fans of petrol ped!
Is that why PP said brake rotors lol
@@octaneparker6200 lol maybe
Gotta drop some stuff in you guys will understand 😜😂
A couple of years ago I toured the Highlands and Islands in a BMW Mini One. Memorable moments included sailing past Tesla’s who were clearly creeping around saving power whilst they tried to find a charge point. Now they had 250+ miles range. I saw a couple crawl into The Green Welly at Tyndrum. Can you imagine touring the Highlands in this Audi? You would need to wear a man nappy to even contemplate it😂 A great feature BTW.
Where I live it was -28 degrees Fahrenheit this morning.
My neighbor, who owns two Teslas, came out dressed like a Arctic explorer.
He doesn't have the ability to charge at work and if he uses the heat enough for comfort he doesn't have the range to do his work roundtrip.
I have a similar commute in a ICE vehicle.
Just start it , turn on the heated seats and steering wheel, and drive it a few minutes and I can use all the heat I want.
Wow...that’s cold 🥶
I just took a fun drive in my old Saab 900 when it was that cold here. a bit of sliding about at low speeds is really enjoyable. :D
Great video, winter time with plenty of cold weather, how does the heaters cope, obviously electric therfore power usage. I have heard from artic drivers with cameras, same issues in wet and dark.
The classic phrase, "less is more", should be translated in automotive terms to, "less COSTS more!", almost invariably!!!
Evening Pete, looking forward to your thoughts on this.The colour red suits it👍
Audi are doing well with the electrification so far. The new E-Tron GT is stunning but they need to improve the range. Great video Pete.
They do 👍
Great review, mirrors I found really interesting.
I love everything about it.... Except the wheels lol.
👍👍 great review
I agree about the mirrors. I also agree about the range it has to be 300 or better before I would consider a vehicle.
Incredibly eloquent and accurate assessment of current charging infrastructure. Basically there are two segments to the market. Tesla, where if you have one of their cars you never ever have to worry about range or lack of charging, and the rest. However, for many of us we could count on one hand the number of 300 mile one day road trips were do. I charge our model 3 to circa 150 miles range once a week. That is all we need. Times are changing and our perceptions and expectations need to align with them. J
Thanks but wait till Mondays video 👍
Evening everyone, hope you’ve survived this freezing cold week safely. Beautiful looking car , good you got to do lots of miles to really get to know her !
Thanks for the video, very honest and realistic. I'm a great fan of electric and hybrid vehicles and am considering all electric. Skoda Enyaq, VW ID4 are both strong contenders. I did test drive the Peugeot e2008 which was a good car to drive but the range was hugely disappointing. The range has to be 250 miles plus to make sense for me. I'm sure the technology is coming... :)
Excellent & informative review. Brilliant.
Don't think I've been this early to a Ped post. #Goals
BOOM 💥
Well done Buddy 🙌
I wouldn’t spec the cameras either. Can’t beat proper mirrors.
It’s just too bloody big!! All the tech in the world cant hide the fact it is a monster of a car which will require huge batteries and big electric motors. Defies the whole point of the “green brief”. Beautifully made as always but.... well not for me (I’ll never bloody afford one anyway). Great review as always; thank you 🙏
Hi all!! hope everyone is doing well and staying healthy! Been looking forward to this one.
I think range for electric cars is a big thing for a lot in the USA 🇺🇸. I’d say for me personally it has to be 275 minimum during winter with a max during warm weather around 325 to 350 before I’d really consider electric. Definitely not a fan of the mirrors or price wow 😳.
But as always a fantastic review Sir Pete!!
Cheers Buddy 👍
Great video, very informative 👍
Hi Ped
Excellent review. As an Audi man love lots about this car, exterior, interior, dash & screens great improvement, not keen on the wheel design (minor personal preference). Cameras to replace wing mirrors definite No No, big distraction and possibly dangerous😬😬 Range, infrastructure, and cost big negative. Guess we are on same wavelength wit this one. Good to see the Pups being sensible🥰
Challenging with those wing mirrors , would love to see a polestar comparison
Another enjoyable Video Review. One of the best Electric SUVs
Brilliant looking car and I like the fact it just looks like an Audi rather then being different for different sake. 👍🏻
I agree ☝️
Great presentation Pete. Having had wing mirrors knocked off in the past, I wondered how deep my pockets would have to be to replace a camera unit vs a piece of glass. Hmmm.
I think that battery technology and range will be akin to what we saw with the evolution of the petrol engine... albeit over a shorter period of time.
Those camera stalks seem even more tempting to knock off than standard mirrors. I'm not a yob & would never damage someone's car but they just look so 'grabbable'.
Having driven a few of these e-tron's now, I can completely agree with your view on the camera wing mirrors. Personally, I think they're a complete waste of money, and for reverse parking I found them very difficult to judge proximity to anything really. Well done for pointing it out to all your viewers, I think the idea should be dropped really, or maybe we could have a pop-up mirror just for reversing? Who knows.
Good honest review as ever 👊🏿
Thanks Patrick 👍
Nice motor Pete, but I am with you on the mirrors. I wouldn't want to park it in a town centre on a Friday/Saturday night, those mirrors would be a target.Keep up the good work mate.
Great video again! Did look at the e-tron as the potential next car but as you say, with a poor infrastructure, I’m one of those nervous about the jump to EV and, for such a big SUV style car, I can’t quite see how this car works based on real world figures. ID3/4, Enyaq or Q4 style cars (if the latter can exceed 300 miles on a charge) seem to be the potential game changers (not sure about the build quality on the latest VWs though). E-tron GT looks interesting, but too pricey (although I heard a rumour about a mini e-tron GT, the GTS? Allegedly an S5 style offering which’d be very interesting indeed and possibly could coax me out of the S4). Here’s hoping for a change of pace in EV development from the mainstream manufacturers as you say in your video. Well done again, a good honest review!
The other thing that no one mentions on range is that you will not drive 175m on a charge, you will start getting warnings at about 145 miles and will probably stop at 155 ish. As you state that is not enough!
£89 grand! Where's the market for that?
Having to plan a UK holiday round several hours sat at charging points (or queuing for one) doesn't work. A problem that will be getting worse as more people move over to them.
One of my trucking friends said identical issue with the Merc. Dark, wet along with headlights, also sunshine on a wet road behind you, the screens can’t take the glare.
That's interesting to hear. The reversing camera on my Mercedes has excellent night vision. It's an absolute godsend at night because the rear privacy glass makes the rear view mirror virtually unusable.
Very good honest review, hard to see how the even lower capacity Etron 50 works at such a huge a price v it’s range ability. Standard mirrors a must!! Tesla need the Model Y in Europe ASAP!
Wife's first comment was, what's happened to the mirrors, they look like they have been knocked off! I wouldn't spec them personally. But I agree with you, range is the big issue there! Great honest review mate
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As always an honest review of the car in question. That is the biggest problem for me with ev at the moment, range. I do 140 miles round trip to and from work, and for the amount of money this thing costs it is just not there for yet.
If you can charge at home, you might just be the perfect EV candidate! Most modern EVs have no problem with 140 miles even in the coldest weather. If you really drive over 30k miles per year you will save thousands per year in fuel costs and enjoy a "full tank" every morning. Of course, this will depend greatly on your local energy and gas rates.
Totally agree! The range on EV's is the first thing I look at
Great Review! I’m not a huge fan of the e-tron, but love the e-tron GT!
Great review!! Totally agree that range and charging infrastructure are the negatives to ev ownership and you can see why that most people go for Tesla over other manufacturers due to the supercharger network
Didn’t get chance to watch entire video last night, 100% agree, whilst electric looks like it will be the future for now but as its a 250mile round trip to my parents I really need a car with a range of 300+ miles and also a car that doesnt cost £100k
Tesla, Hyundai, Kia, VW will all sell you cars with genuine 250 plus mile ranges for half the cost of the E-Tron.
Evening Ped and Peddlers hope your all well :) from a snowy Cumbria
Good thanks Chris! 👍🏻
Greetings from a snowy Durham!
Hi Chris 🙋♂️
As an Etron launch edition owner I have to say you have absolutely nailed it in this review - basically an awsome car in every respect EXCEPT terribly dissapointing range and pointless tech on the door mirrors. You basically have to own an ICE car as an alternative for longer journeys (luckily my wifes 4.2 V8 Cayenne does nicely for these LOL)
Great to know. Thanks 🙏🏻
Ive had my e tron 55 for 1.5 years now, fully specced with normal side mirrors. Truely great car. I drive in norway where it can get very cold and usually lots of snow. It just digs through everything. Nightvision and matrix leds are so good when driving in very dark areas, and i have never had range anxiety.
We are very fortunate with charging infrastructure here in Norway. There are free public chargers everywhere, so even if you dont have a home charger you can get a full charge in ~8 hours. The 150kw+ network is also very good, no matter where you drive, there will be fast chargers. Ice cars are completely priced out here too, cars usually cost 2-3 times more here than anywhere else. So ev ownership is a no-brainer
Instinctively I thought the mirror cameras looked like a bad idea. I'm glad you have called it out. I feel at the moment we are in a phase with new cars where manufacturers can do some really clever tech. However just, because you can do it doesn't mean to say you should. The touch screens are getting a bit much and the latest Golf for example with touch sensitive steering wheel controls are just silly.
Great as always
Thanks 🙏🏻
Very nice car and good, honest revue. I agree, the range and infrastructure are deal-breakers.
And the cost!!!
Great insight to the world of electric cars. Personally I have an hybrid which is obviously the best of both, it’s going to be a sorry sight when we are all fully electric.
Just imagine going to a forecourt to charge your car on your way home from a long journey to find it’s full of cars being charged, you’d be in for a long day indeed.
Super cold?
3 degrees outside?
Affecting your EV range?
*Cries in Canadian*...
(my mini SE barely breaks 100 miles...)
Great review, interesting about the mirrors, but I can see what you mean! also the new E-tron GT have reverted to some key buttons, so maybe a slight change in future design as the touch screen for changing heating and other key peripherals while moving is changing due to customer pressure?
Great looking car I think
Checking in to be in the draw, I'll watch and enjoy later!
You are in 👍
Well Peter, it might be the EV to buy at the moment but I’m not yet sold on the whole idea...we are just not ready and the range on that car is hopeless...how can you pay £89,000 and yet be unable to drive more than 70/80 miles away from home so for me, my day out in Sidmouth with range anxiety taunting me all the way home. I can’t buy that. Then heating...today was -2C with a biting wind...I was on a farm this morning and my fingers were freezing whilst taking some pictures...but my faithful tDiscovery Sport welcomed me with warm heated seats, heated windscreen, a powerful heater and that luxury beyond words, a heated steering wheel...and 42mpg to help me on my way. Now the D/Sport is outlawed in a few years time BUT it does what i and everybody else wants...EV’s are a long way off that ability. The wing mirrors....a crazy idea like too many touch screens...such technology has a place but not in the act of controlling a car....manoeuvring maybe but driving, no thank you..just ridiculous and unsafe...plus mighty tempting for any passing yob to snap off for fun and replacements?...£2000 each I would guess plus paintwork! The Audi is very good.....but it needs all those improvements you describe...sort that and then we are able to think again! Stay safe...wear gloves...delay the Tesla!! 🥶🥶😨😱😱😃😃😃😃😃Richard.
Awesome audi,pete,
Stay safe
10:03 - "If you want to do lots of miles, this is a brilliant car to do it in."
Err ... no it's not, if you have to stop for a few hours after 180 miles. That makes half the country unavailable to me. Absolute deal-breaker.
Drove 1500 miles to Switzerland and back in my Tesla.... piece of cake.
Tesla is the perfect example of sorting out the charging infrastructure before giving their car a decent range to start with. 185 miles is not good enough from a £90k car.
Actually the e-tron has a unique monster flat charging speed of 150kw from 10-80%. Unlike any other electric car. So you only need to wait 15-20 minutes after driving for 180 miles not a few hours. That’s not how you drive electric cars. I need a piss after 180 miles anyway lol.
The real world problems this gentleman has experienced is down to living in England 🏴🙁. Years behind many other forward thinking nations unfortunately.
@@ed234e Exactly, who sits in a car for 350 mile none stop? 180 miles here in the UK is anything from 3 to 4 hrs driving with our congested roads.
@@ed234e Fair points. One aspect is that my stopping places on long-distance trips are not where chargers are. I stop at picnic spots, cafe carparks, bush-walk carparks, outside shops that i want/need to pop into, or where I'm staying for a night. Most motels/hotels don't have charging. Charging stations are backwards quality of life in that regard. EV's add to the journey time, not just change the pit-stop schedule.
And wow man, your 15-20 minute piss is impressive. Medical museums will want your bladder after you're done with it.
I have aspecific 660km (410 mile) trip that I sometimes do in a day. I don't want that day to be any longer than it is.
I'm sure it's mentioned elsewhere but any electric car costing over £35,000 doesn't qualify now for a grant - so add a few more thousand onto the price of these
Hi Pete, for someone like you who does a fair amount of distance traveling for work I am sure the limited range is a major concern. Agree that for that type and level of quality vehicle a definite increase in range should be offered
‘Weighs about the same as a small moon’ 😂. Great comment. Understand your disappointment with the range. The U.K. weather certainly makes a difference. Most Petrol cars have a range of 300 miles now, that may be why people expect that from an electric car. Fascinating review though. We do wish MINI would build a fully electric Countryman or Clubman
Love the video, for me 300 miles is what I want, I could live with 250 miles at a push but the infrastructure for chargers need to be a lot better and until it is I will not change. hopefully within the next 2-3 years it will get a lot better and with newer tech on batteries maybe 300+ miles will be achievable.
Great and sensible review. By the way, the Honda E implementation of cameras for mirrors is much better the way Audi do it
Great video as usual!👍🏻 when is the other video out you mention?
Dropped last night 👍
Shall be viewing today!!👍🏻😎
Good evening everyone. Certainly not a fan of the wing cameras & I wish I could get into these electric cars but I can't. Great review/video as always though.
My biggest challenge with electric is the lack of noise. When they make an electric that pops popcorn it will win me. I know that I will have to adapt to electric somehow but I’m hoping to have something for me by the time I do. Big hugs to all petrolped community
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Epic video ped
Thanks 🙏🏻
I'd be interested in seeing you take a road trip where you add ballast to the car to simulate the weight of a family with luggage. What would another 200 kilos or so do to the range? I live in rural Colorado and the limited range of today's EVs coupled with the lack of charging infrastructure is the biggest factor keeping me away at the moment.
I think you were very diplomatic about the charging infrastructure in this country Pete, I've heard horror stories especially about the motorway charging issues, I believe they are run by Ecotricity and by all accounts are at times pretty grim. You are right about the e-tron range though, who on earth would spend over 80k on a car with a range of 185 miles, it doesn't make sense when you can buy a Tesla for much less with a 100 mile longer range. I'm afraid I won't even consider an EV for at least another three years.
Well presented again 👍🏎
Thanks 🙏🏻
The gripe I’ve got isn’t purely the range, it’s the charging time. We used to drive to the alps as a family - we used to take our 4.0 litre petrol jeep Cherokee. 20 mpg on a good day, 15mpg if you were lucky at 80 mph fully loaded with a roof box. I think on one tank aiming for an early ferry we saw 12mpg - about 200 miles brimmed to fumes. Thing is, when we came off the ferry at 10pm English time, there’s no way you want to have to spend 30-4t minutes charging the thing up - you just want to stop, squirt the go-go juice in in and pay in less than 5 minutes and head home for a pint of hogs back best and a kip. Plus this three petrol stops which accounted for 30 minutes of the journey through France - they’d add another 90-120 minutes to the journey. So to catch that ferry, we’d have missed an hour and a half of skiing in the most glorious powder. So yep, therell be an a6 all road in our barn for the road trips for years to come!
Great video Pete, I for one will not be going electric either with my next car or in ten years time. I think anyone would be insane to fork out nearly 90k on this Audi. Manufacturers need to think about the fact that the majority of customers can only spend a maximum of a third of what this car costs and so most of the decent electric cars on the market are out of reach of the majority of buyers!!! An AMG V8 for me next I think. 👍👍
I'm sure it must have been difficult to like everything about a new vehicle, electric vehicles are not something I'm into right now but time will come when choice is not a option , you done a fair appraisal of the whole vehicle and as we go down this route hopefully the range will be improved time will tell,😊😊👍
With that size of battery there are already electric cars with almost double the range of the etron. This is simply an inefficient model.
Another great review. The only thing I struggle with is the need for such big range from BEV’s?
To achieve these ranges they will need batteries that are huge therefore heavy and extraordinary expensive, putting these cars further out of reach in monitory terms.
As a man of a certain age my bladder determines my drive time in the car, with careful consideration I can tie this in with a charge stop therefore the perceived lack of range is not perhaps the issue we think it is.
Psst… under the trunk is another space… you should’ve looked further. Most reviewers miss this, it’s incredible. Also underneath the frunk is more space.
Kia e Nero is excellent. I get 260 miles in summer and around 220 in this really cold weather. No wonder it was a best seller in Jan 2021.
They are great cars 👍
Hi Ped, another quality car from Audi, the range is not great, maybe ok for short trips around town but not ideal for longer journeys as the charging can take time to recharge. Unfortunately, still more work required to fine tune the mileage. This Mirror technology sounds expensive compared to the traditional mirrors.
With the mirror, i think it's range rovers who did a concept car that used not only the normal side camera but the rear camera which gave a much better view, a wider angle.
Another great video Ped. Definitely not a car for me. I can imagine how annoying the mirrors are and I agree, the range needs to be better. EV will keep improving and perhaps in the next 2 years I feel that I may be ready to swap the 6 pot.
I like idea of those wing mirrors, not sure about the styling of them
Thx, after 3 yr still relevant for me 👍
Nice open review PP.
The mirrors are a terrible idea, at that press car price I'll have an A8 TDI thanks very much.
Cheers.
Chris
Great review as always Pete. Lots to like I’m sure, but not for me even if the purse would stretch.
Hi good vid another YT had a knightmare with those mirrors the ones on the Honda E seem to be very well accepted.
I have three things to say about the car. One, I'm super happy to see Audis looking like Audis, even when they are electric Audis!! Two, range is everything! If they can't manage 250 miles, I can't see any reason to buy this car. I want to drive to my mum's or sister's place without re-charging. And three, have you purchased the Delta Integrale yet, and if not why not?? That was four things wasn't it?
Someone beat me too it 😂
@@PetrolPed Heh, no surprise really. It was screaming buy me or say goodby me.
Pete, I understand the range issue with the EV's but the towing limitation is another major factor. I tow a boat and EV's just don't cut the mustard. I'm thinking off the F-Pace Hybrid next.
You’re spot on. 185 miles is way too low for a car of that value. It’s a good looking machine although touch screens aren’t my thing, it does at least look so much better than a Tesla (subjective, of course). But half the range of what is actually needed.
And my biggest gripe with screens and cameras and not, mirrors is focal length. Try using them whilst wearing bifocals and crane your neck back in order to view them properly... How safe is that!?