Swimmer gets disqualified for celebrating (Uncut)
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- Опубликовано: 24 фев 2024
- North Carolina State Senior Owen Lloyd posted the fastest time in the Men's 1650-yard Freestyle, earning him the ACC Title, an automatic entry to the National Championships, and a new best time. Moments later, an announcement was made that Lloyd had been disqualified for "interference with another swimmer."
The rule(s) at play from the NCAA rulebook:
- Rule 2, Section 5, Article 1a: "Any competitor who interferes with another swimmer during a race shall be disqualified from that race, subject to the discretion of the referee..."
- Rule 2, Section 5, Article 1b: "A swimmer who changes lanes during a heat shall be disqualified."
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this sport does damn near everything in its power to disallow fun
Big fan, and I totally agree. Love your videos!
Love the vids bro.
I agree. Swimming is never going to become a popular sport if dumb stuff like this continues.
Totally right kyle, this is also pretty good footage documenting everything happened after the race and disqualification
have they tried Galactic Swimming?
This feels like getting a 0 on a test because you spoke with your friend after you were both done
Except like 50x worse.
Also, Jesus Christ loves you! He is the only way to heaven. May God bless you! 😊
This literally happened to me moments after finishing a test in high school. We were instructed not to talk, and I had forgotten that and commented to my neighbor “that wasn’t so bad.” The teacher gave us both 0s. I had to plead with the teacher to at least excuse my neighbor as it wasn’t her fault that I had leaned over to make the comment. It worked, but I still got the 0.
@@petelancaster6715 The teacher was right. Answering the comment: yes, if you are doing an important test and not only you're not allowed to talk after finishing the test (not at least until everybody else has finished aswell, or the time limit has runed out) but it's explicitly in the rules that you will be disqualified as punishment if that happens, in that case if you break the rules the only one you can blame is yourself.
@@Jesus_Christ_loves_you_alot thanks but kinda random
@@Jesus_Christ_loves_you_alotlove how you threw in that hustle at the end 😂
The worst thing is he was celebrating with his friend who ALREADY finished the race
yeah but others were still finishing up is the issue. however he didn't impede them so i guess they chalked it up as unsportsmanlike conduct.
*already
Its splitting hairs, I used to competitive swim. Its down to literally what the rules were for that event, word for word. Im betting its written no swimmer shall cross lanes at any point, regardless if the race was finished or not. But yes, the man broke a record, he deserves the win.
@@dajosco115 Its irrelivent, when a swimmer finishes his laps the timer is instantly stopped the secind he hits the wall. but on the other foot, it distracts the audience from cheering on the other swimmers, and "takes some of their glory" at their finish I guess. Not worth DQ my opinion.
@@user-iy1vo2jf2q *irrelevant
Alt title: Swimmer gets disqualified for being happy.
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that is straight up messed up :/
The race was still on and the other swimmers were still racing. That's why. It wasn't just because he celebrated. Check the facts.
The race was still on and the other swimmers were still racing. That's why. It wasn't just because he celebrated. Check the facts.
@@lvlysticgirlthat’s even stupider lmao
like why are you going out of their way to defend them when you’re only gonna make them look more soulless than they already are
judges are just salty they haven't done anything even near as important in their lives
True, they just passed exam memorising shits
I cAn ThRoW a MaRsHmAlLoW iNtO mY mOuTh SiX tImEs OuT oF tEn
The race was still on and the other swimmers were still racing. That's why. It wasn't just because he celebrated. Check the facts.
@@lvlysticgirl those 2 racers were finished. A rule shouldn't count when the qualification isn't there.
@@lvlysticgirl Hush, I understand that you're miserable with your life and have never achieved anything meaningful or significant in your life, and you feel bad for yourself. But keep that to yourself.
Next time he wins you know he will not celebrate again; this is how you kill someone’s happiness. So sad.
Nwo master plan
Good, maybe win with some class and follow the rules of the competition, this isn’t a frat party.
@@HeyhitmeBAM Are you dumb? The guy won by a landslide and in the heat of the moment wanted and deserved to celebrate. I can tell you are absolutely miserable.
@@HeyhitmeBAM where the fuck do you people come from?
@@HeyhitmeBAM there is a reason you are the only person with that opinion. The part your emotional problems have a problem with isn't what he got disqualified for anyway. he could have done the same thing litterally 3 seconds later, he just made a mistake not thinking lanes on the other end where still active so he couldn't cross into one where his team was already done. This is an optionally enforced rule for causing problems with other lanes that was used at the wrong time. Thanks for pulling out frat party from no where as it isn't slighly relevant to the video. Every living thing that sees your comment will go away knowing you have something wrong with you. just because you see a guy happy about an accomplishment like beating his overal best time doesn't mean something is wrong. work on yourself a little.
The guy who ended up taking the technicality saying he’s not taking the medal is a serious friend and shows amazing sportsmanship
"He beat me fair and square and he deserves that medal not me" Good teammate and friend
I mean, any decent human being would do the same, no one would take that medal in pride
u know they homies coz id do the same for mine ✊✊ respect to him man
Rules like these were made by fools.
K kid
99% agree he won
1% Rule robots say he should be ashamed for mocking the sport
Haha swimming. I remember that was what all the weird girls did in HS.
@@kane00000 Lets pretend you wouldnt tucker out half way across the pool on the first stretch.
@@isaiahmayle4706yapper
I actually think it's more than 1% of people here arguing in favor of the decision. Lot of autists got recommended this it turns out.
If the judges started giving out leeway, in 10 years time people would just swim in any lane they like.
Rules are there for a reason, even if the reason doesn't make sense to you.
I'm really not sure what the big deal is, the guy surely must've known the protocol and could've just waited one minute to celebrate. He's a man after all, should know by now how to control his emotions.
Imagine you take the drivers test, park, get out and start walking to the building with the driving instructor to see if you passed and they're like "Sorry kid, you walked behind a vehicle in the driving area, you failed". The vehicle was your friend's who was parked and was getting out.
That's how much sense this makes.
I get that. But why not celebrate like other pro swimmers?
Except in this case, you would have practiced driving for most of your life just for you to be failed
@@Dionysos_____Alters yeah lets all conform and be the exact same drones... good stuff...
Rules are rules. I break them all the time and learn the hard way. Bro did the same and has no one to blame but himself. Even his friend knew the rule and why he got disqualified, so he should have set aside his ego from his victory and waited a little. I mean, he already had it secured; he should've waited a few more minutes before celebrating with the money dance outside the water. I myself was confused why he jumped into the floating devices and then into the other diver's lane. For a second, I thought the other diver tried to push him away, but I guess they were friends. Either way, they are trained on the rules, and if they choose to ignore or forget them, then it's on them, not on the judges who enforce the rules. He definitely won fair and square. However, breaking a rule means disqualification is valid. I'm glad at least some rules are enforced in the sports industry.
@@DioHard
Thats what these neo-fascists(rainbow-people) always say😂😂
This is the perfect example of some try-hard ref enforcing a rule but completely and utterly ignoring the spirit of the rule. Obviously no interference was caused and the swimmer in that lane was already done. Insane.
that what i said to cops: you are insane, there were no traffic on the road, you are ignoring the spirit of red light, it means: do whatever the duck you want on this street and i was happy about my job promotion!
it’s stupid. it’s as if robots are enforcing the rule. this clearly isn’t what the rule tries to prevent and any person with common sense can see that.
the judges just said “well technically, he broke a rule” without actually considering why that rule exists in the first place
Is it not allowed if the lane is finished? That is dumb
hey, ask a stupid question, get ... wrecked.
@@zloidooraque0 that’s- without a doubt- the worst analogy i’ve heard all week. breaking traffic laws and hugging a teammate who’s finished with the race are two totally different things.
to fix that analogy, it’s more like getting that promotion, driving home with your work friend in separate cars, getting out of the car, having a drink to celebrate, and getting a ticket for a DUI in your own house. do you think you can see why that doesn’t really work now?
Literally everyone is against that decision, the fact they kept the disqualification tells exactly who they are.
aleksandr karelin lost the olympic gold in wrestling on a technicality. learn to control your emotions
@@grawakendream8980thats the same as legally right but morally wrong
@@Altair2786 so now it's question of morality lol. ok
@@grawakendream8980we talking about swimming and homie brought up wrestling
@@grawakendream8980 So... having basic empathy and an oppinion in the matter is now being emotionally unstable? sure pal. I'd reccomend you to project elsewhere.
The biggest injustice is that this ruling was not reverted. That guy lost so much to the judges being petty assholes, and it hasn't been rectified. Way to go guys, just keep ruining sports...
Exactly
Actually, according to Google, the decision was apparently overturned.
That still doesn't fix the fact that, for this moment, and indefinitely after, he was _denied_ the right to be happy about an accomplishment. The sport was irreparably ruined for him.
@@Resi1ience You can get thrown out and penalized in football too from celebrating. Not even obstructing, simply celebrating. The guy knew the rules and was too dumb to follow them. He failed the simplest IQ test of not crossing lanes during race, DQ was more than justified.
@@HenaK9if u win just don’t do anything be serious like you can’t have happiness once in a life time
@@Skibidirizz948 I might chuckle, maybe give a little cheer. Not lose my shit like some sugarrushed 5 y/o tho.
This sort of stupid technicality is what happens when idiots judge by the letter of the rule, rather than the spirit of the rule. The NCAA should have gotten involved and corrected that. His harmless celebration is NOT what that rule was put in place to prevent. A complete injustice.
The referee used two rules and only one makes some sense, basically one states that you can’t interfere with other swimmers which doesn’t apply in this case. And rule 2 states you can’t switch lanes in a race which was an extremely vague rule since they both finished and hence stopped participating in the heat. Only one of these rules are discretionary meaning it’s up to the referee’s judgement to implement it, this being the interference rule. The other rule is fixed meaning it isn’t circumstantial and is applied no matter what which is a big problem with this sport.
I was expecting to see some disgusting display of egotism and hubris. This kid was excited that’s all. Totally deserves the win and to celebrate. Ridiculous ruling.
Same. This is so wrong
Unfortunately for him, he screwed up. Rule 2, Section 5, Article 1b: "A swimmer who changes lanes during a heat shall be disqualified." The heat hadn't finished. Stupid rule, that could be revised, but it is what it is. All sports have some unpopular rules but they certainly shouldn't be changed from play to play. It's the participants responsibility to be aware of them. Accountability...a value of the past?
I'm going to be honest and real when I say I genuinely wish there were more egotistical people winning and celebrating their victories. Getting really tired of the "humble and modest" people winning. It's just hating at that point
The race was still on going, the other guy is irrelevant as the rules are you can’t cross lanes while the race is on, he got jumpy.
@@roberthedrick1397 That rule is clearly to punish disrupting swimmers that haven't finished. He crossed into a lane of a swimmer that already finished. We have brains, let's use some fucking logic and give the kid the fucking medal. Shit like this is fucking pathetic.
Holy shit. This is crushing. What a perfect way to absolutely discourage future athletes from wanting to compete.
Why cause they can’t follow the rules…
@StefanRial he could have climb the pool and celebrate on land. Not a hard thing to do.
you mean like in football, where players get ejected from the game and fined for celebrating?
@StefanRial the Australian women's swim team beat the world record in the olympics and was disqualified for something the same....it resulted in the USA getting the gold metal. USA team didn't complain...hell they pointed it out....its heart breaking and a bit S*?t.
f8k the rules. that decision is a f8king joke and i hate swimming.@@rolandoramirez1193
This is what good sportsmanship is all about. His opponent defending him with strong resolution is what the world needs more of.
Definitely
Teammate my guy.
It's nice of him.
It wasn't his opponent, they were teammates
@@WoahCuber it's a regional competition that happens.
Bruh, where's the point in sport if you can't be emotional. Just put robots instead of humans and force the referees to watch.
What were they meant to do?
I get the point of the rule, not going into someone else's lane to avoid interfering with another swimmer, but when they've both finished the race the ruling is as pedantic as it is ridiculous
Rules are rules dude
@@KhaoShungsome rules are stupid
@@KhaoShung rules have exceptions
race was over @@KhaoShung
@@KhaoShungrules should be a guideline to avoid negative behaviour, but then there's also people like you
Swimmer: "YES!!! I WON!! MY BEST TIME EVER!!!"
Referee: "Fun detected. Engaging emergency protocols."
No: Rules violation detected; psychopathy inferred.
It was the right thing to do : when he lets himself fall in the other lane, he makes waves that can affect the chrono of others swimmers. Imagine the first F1 pilot who finishes the race starts to make a burnout and makes smoke al overt the finish line. That's the same thing, and that was the right decison to disqualify him.
@@Zuriki_ but look how small those waves are
@@Zuriki_ “”””waves””””, bro he literally broke a record, who cares????
@mickeymousesupremency149 Having worked in the mental health field in numerous positions for over 25 years, including direct client care, and without yet searching Google, I'd say it means presenting the personality disorders and conditions of a psychopath. Now I WILL look it up: "Psychopathy is a neuropsychiatric disorder marked by deficient emotional responses, lack of empathy, and poor behavioral controls, commonly resulting in persistent antisocial deviance and criminal behavior." Bit of advice: the ad hominem is the worst fallacy of all: It instantly demonstrates you have gifted your opponent a very satisfying win.
Imagine training for years just for the judge to end you up like this
I love that you can hear the _entire crowd_ booing the judges. You'd think that would convince them to walk it back, but clearly they have no shame.
As an experienced Swim Coach myself I understand the rule, however if both swimmers have finished the race, referees need to apply some common sense. Every winner in swimming history celebrates like that! Pathetic officials.
Isn't other sanction possible for this mystake ? He broke le rule so sanction seem normal but discalification is just too high !
I have never seen two swimmers competing in the last heat and the rest were a lap behind +. what kind of beer league is that? there is no winner under FINA sitting a celebrating on lane until everyone is done
He broke the rules and got DQ. What's the problem?
@@DecodingWithJordan
Punishement is too strong regarding the fault.
@@Simon-if2hs but he broke the rules...
He didn’t cross the lane during the heat. He only cross the lane after everything was finished. Makes no sense poor call.
You dont know how the rule actually WAS if everyone agrees on a set of rules they must be respected
@@germsnaewfwfe3566Ok, my rule is if anyone comments dies? Ok
@@germsnaewfwfe3566The rules are to help others, no to damage
@@germsnaewfwfe3566 the rule is to not go into other lanes to distract the other swimmers during the race. Both swimmers involved were done and no racing was happening in either lane, which is why people think the ruling is silly.
@@lynniewood in that case if that is the rule then i also think is silly to disqualify him
Referee: You’re disqualified
Swimmer:WHY??
Referee:for being too happy
Bullsht
who let a reddit moderator become a referee
LMAO true.
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Dude this is the best comment on RUclips honestly this made me laugh!😂
😂😂
The most accurate comment ever. Reddit mods are truly awful
I hope the judges who disqualified him get fired and banned from ever judging any sporting event again, absolute disgraces
Those judges should be fired for this. With that much adrenaline in his system it would be really hard not to get excited and celebrate. Those judges are pure evil. It’s sad to watch because you can just see his heart breaking in that moment. Not to mention it’s probably extremely humiliating.
MAD respect to the guy who said he wouldn't take the winning spot.
This is disgusting. The judges have lost their humanity. God bless his teammate for his attitude and support.
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@@kristinleigh545 The referees literally had no other option as the rule mandates automatic dq for the swimmer. So maybe be angry at the swimmer for breaking rules and stop being disgusting.
@@lunalane Rules suck. Everyone knows that. Read the room.
@@lunalanethe only thing that is disgusting is your comment.
how miserable do you have to be to disqualify a kid for celebrating WITH his team mate AFTER the team mate already finished too! there was no “interference”. he made HISTORY.
a rule is a rule. not that hard to follow. cross the lane after everyone leaves. that's totally fine.
@@noob.168 do you want the officials number? I think he is looking for boot lickers.
@@noob.168 bootlicker alert
@@noob.168you must be fun at parties
@@noob.168 You must be fun to hang around
👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼 it’s not like he jumped into a lane with someone still swimming.
Yes he did
@@davecoop9579 What video did you watch,, it surely wasn’t this one 🤣😂😅
@jimmypugh3332 This video is carefully curated to imply that the "winner" was punished for celebrating. This is false. He was punished for breaking a long-standing rule that swimmers may not cross into any other lane while the race is still under way. He undertook to follow the rules and he failed to do so. The judgement was perfectly fair. There can be no argument.
@@davecoop9579 I know what he did,read my comment again,I’m just saying,the lane he jumped in to celebrate with his buddy was already done,he didn’t jump in someone else’s lane that the person was still swimming, he didn’t interfere with nobody’s race.the judges should have overlook that.
@jimmypugh3332 You don't understand the rule, then. He knowingly broke the rule and was rightfully disciplined. Rules are rules and he agreed to abide by them. There is no valid argument against this.
He crossed into another competitor’s lane, who had finished his race, and then gets disqualified for interference of other players….. the only guy he would’ve affected was *Done.* That rule should not stand.
He did not interfere with the other swimmer. The guy had already finished swimming. This needs to be protested! Stupid rule!
@@basnoordermeer4249gtfoh😂 you can’t even sit here and act like this wasn’t stupid asl jus stop.
I have to agree! Lloyd got this fair and square! Never liked that rule.
He crossed into an inactive lane (teammate was done swimming). So... how, exactly, is the rule "effective" in this case? Wouldn't it only be effective when applied to active lanes?@@basnoordermeer4249
@@basnoordermeer4249This is snowflake rule
@@basnoordermeer4249 yes, it was an incredibly stupid interpretation and use of that rule, and I say that as a swimming coach and ex pro swimmer. He didnt interfere with any other active swimmer, and the spirit of the rule is only about those. Such celebrations actually happen all the time even in Olympics without such stupid disqualifications happening. Mongoloid ref with a pathetic need to use their power, or someone with an agenda, vengence, or something.
They should disqualify that official from that job.
I agree, but officiating isn't a job (unless it's been changed recently). For both swimming & track & field it costs money to take the different levels of officiating courses & it's all unpaid volunteer work.
The person who made the rule should.
Rules are rules
@@temp5782 You can bent a rule though if the rule isn't any helpful in a certain case. Or at least you should do it. Some people just follow rules blindly even if it only courses harm. Tolerance of ambiguity is an important trade!
@@maestro3887 Yes… but not on this level of sports. The rules should be discussed and changed arbitrary. He knew the rules and agreed on them. This is sad, bad rule but the judges job is to enforce the rules.
That's what I call a lawsuit right there, if he has the grounds to make a case for it ofc. Sue the referees, sue the whole damn league/organization if possible.
Even the broadcasters are confused and kinda angry
What a skilled ref, somehow manages to make people uninvolved in the sport viscerally angry at him
whats his name? and adress?
@@consumoholic not the best way to indicate your agreement here
Took the words right out of my mouth. I don't even watch Swimming at all. And I want to become involved in this sport just to support this young man and see Justice take place.
@@consumoholic You hear one swimming rule and youre ready to grab pitch forks. Bro it’s not that serious. Wild to me you make that joke but they’re actually receiving threats.
Facts
Huge respect for his teammate standing up for him
Fr.
He still took the entry into the national championships 😂
@@oberpenneraffe The real winner probably urged him to, they're apart of the same team right? *whoosh*
@@oberpenneraffe.. I knew a tennis player who had a promising career ahead of her but just could not reach the top. She talked to a top coach who asked her what she would do if she saw her best friend on the ground, badly injured and begging for help. The woman said that she would stop and help. The coach told her that was the reason that she would never be a top flight player because they understand that the only thing they can think about is personal success. Nothing else mattered, and it appears that the team mate understood that the door of opportunity had opened for him.
@@johnvienta7622dang it’s rough but it makes perfect sense
Whoever made the decision to disqualify should be immediately fired. They are not fit to be a judge. Terrible decision.
he learned a very important life lesson on that day
there will always be people like that ref who cannot relate to the fundamental reality of these swimmers, but have absolute power over them
I can understand a penalty for being a sore winner, for gloating, for rubbing your win in an opponent's face, or being disruptive. That isn't what happened here. The judges are incredibly pathetic and immature.
Idk man, getting up on a lane line while competitors are still swimming is pretty disrespectful. I swam competitively (I was mediocre, not a record breaker), and we were always taught that when you finish, you stand and wait until everyone else finishes before you do anything else
@@Sklounst_Actualdude whos lane he entered was also finished genius
@@Sklounst_Actual AGREED! The judges were simply following the rule. Don't like the rules? Change them. The kid made a terrible mistake. He can learn to weave it into his life for the better if his coach and family help him. The lady announcer? She's wrong. You do NOT celebrate in someone else's lane when the race is still underway.
@@Sklounst_Actualmaking up rules that don’t exist AFTER someone has already broken the rule doesn’t mean anything. You people have mental issues
@@Sklounst_Actual Ur obviously crap at what you do if you believe what he did ruined the experience for the runner-up. If I was that athlete in second place, I would throw my medal into the guys lap and stated pubically that i'd came second. It isnt right and yet some people like you defend the stupid decision all because that would've hurt YOUR feelings.
He didn’t get it. His competitors didn’t get it. The crowd didn’t get it. The TV reporters didn’t get it. This really isolates the judges.
Anyone with a brain got it. Don't break the rules.
@@user-fh2vx3hd6c bet you're fun at parties
@@user-fh2vx3hd6c Wow. I'm sorry officer.
@@user-fh2vx3hd6c What rule did he break? obviously no one understood
@@user-fh2vx3hd6c Anyone with a real brain understands that you can't interfere with a another swimmer that has already finished the race, plus it was his TEAMMATE, it's not like he fell into a random competitors lane while they were still racing, that would have been uncalled for
That rule is the equivalent of a baseball player celebrating a home run by giving someone running to the plate behind him a high five after he goes over the plate, and getting the homerun disqualified because of it, it makes no sense and everyone knows it
He just experience whole spectrum of emotions in under a few minutes
Crazy how much people love to use authority to ruin other people's fun.
On the point, that is also why our society is so fucked up unfortunately. Power with the wrong hands and you can clearly see how everything is ruined year by year..
Sad people with no power over their own lives so they try to take it out on others. Pathetic humans.
Yeah, who needs to have rules!?
@@mintymusnot stupid rules lmao dumb
@@mintymus Tyrannical rules are shit, normal rules are ok
Disqualified for huggin his teammate when both were done swimming??? That’s ridiculous!!!
don't u just love america.
These crowd should have went after the judges
Other people were still swimming.
@@xiaokaSo what? That’s not th point, the rule is in place to stop finish swimmers from interfering with people still swimming. They were both done so the rule doesn’t apply. It’s literally his own teammate too
@@jurelrossanyonsmith-gk1pbbro what?
Wish I could give them both a hug. That is a true teammate!! RESPECT!!! sending you both love! Stay strong guys
swimming race is already boring enough but to also have the most karen ass rules ever, this is why no one watches swimming.
He and his teammate were already done with the race when he entered the other lane. That rule was specifically written to prevent interference while the race is still in progress. But as those two were already finished, he caused no interference. Major props to his teammates for supporting him and refusing the automatic win.
also no interference with those still racing, nobody for obvious reason noticed him celebrating because they were swimming and racing
Rule 2, Section 5, Article 1b: "A swimmer who changes lanes during a heat shall be disqualified." The heat hadn't finished. Stupid rule, that could be revised, but it is what it is. All sports have some unpopular rules but they certainly shouldn't be changed from play to play. It's the participants responsibility to be aware of them. Accountability...a value of the past?
@@roberthedrick1397 you realise what judges exist for right? if all we did was take rules for a sport at face value, judges wouldnt even have a job. they are there to decide technicalities and nuance. the spirit of the rule not the words. the world isnt black and white. i can tell you never watch sports and just want to wag your finger to pad your ego. he didnt interfere with other lanes still in progress, therefore most judges would deem no interference and let it fly but i guess the judges this time were similar to you. egotistical with their head in the clouds.
@@newp0rtThat guy is just copy pasting that comment in threads. Clearly never achieved anything and is resorting to demeaning others to make himself feel better. Pathetic.
@@newp0rt This is even more egregious when you see that the teammate who technically won by default of the disqualification said he wouldn't accept his own "win" either and admitted the guy won fair and square. I don't watch sports though, so I don't know much about the nuances of this, but I would be inclined to believe a judge is there to make the calls in line with the spirit of the rule on a case by case basis.
Owen's teammate is the definition of a true friend.
straight men always supporting each other’s questionable decisions, all in favor of protecting their warped values of patriarchy and machismo… disgusting
He might be, but honestly what else should he have said in that situation?
@@maximilianmaier3950he should have said "yeah he truly deserved that disqualification. Thanks everyone I'm better than him."
well said! a true athlete and a true friend right there
@@dashinblu lol that would've been so funny.
But seriously, what he said was exactly what pretty much every other athlete would've said in that situation, whether they really mean it or not.
If you would say something like you deserved the win and you start celebrating, everyone would think you're an asshole and even people who are actually assholes know that.
Imagine someone tells you his girlfriend broke up and you had a crush on her for years, you still would not say "oh great, finally she's free and i can hit on her"
Before enforcing a rule on someone, the purpose of the rule has to be kept in mind not just blindly enforce it and get someone disqualified. Here the purpose of the rule is obviously to make it so no one interferes in another athlete’s swimming. This rule could have been used here to disqualify him, the only problem? BOTH THE ATHLETES WERE DONE WITH THEIR RACE.
oh man. that pissed ME off.
Rule 2, Section 5, Article 1a. He DID NOT interfere with another swimmer.
Rule 2, Section 5, Article 1b. He WAS NOT an active swimmer who changed lanes during a heat. He had finished as did the other lane swimmer who had also finished. Both rules refer to active swimmers
He needs a lawyer and a Go Fund Me page
All the other people in the comment section who argue against the winner saying he just “broke the rules” need to see this
@@prabhav1788 well, the majority of people that say that just want to be different that's all
@@bernardkoey4087 yeah, kinda figured they were rage-baiting anyways
I don't know for the Go Fund me (??) but the lawyer, sure.
He's an NCAA kid in 2024. He doesn't need a GoFundMe now that he can get paid for this.
The purpose of this rule is clearly to deter swimmers from interfering with other swimmers still racing. Both of the swimmers involved here were obviously finished with the race.
Lloyd was disqualifed under rule 5.1b and has nothing to do with interference.
@@hottuna2006 It does bro, Section 5 Article 1 A-F are ALL labeled underneath "Interference" as a subsection to Fouls as a whole. It is quite literally only there so you don't unfairly interfere with other swimmers, going into a lane that has a swimmer that has already finished and is totally fine celebrating with you is not interference.
Could you please explain what the rule means instead of just sighting its number? I can't seem to find a list of rules for competitive swimming that has this numeration @@hottuna2006
@@chaotikkiller1617 not to mention the other swimmer was on his own team too
but the race wasn't over yet. You clearing don't understand racing, and I hope you try to race one day in any sport because its timeless tradition, that doesn't change for any generation, especially this one.
'Rules as Written versus Rules as Intended' moment.
"Hey so even though you just beat your personal best by 4 seconds, won a conference championship, and punched a ticket to nationals, we couldn't help but notice that you got a little too happy about all that..."
Exactly we’re all human and it’s a stupid rule anyway!
@@billweeks9606I'm sure ladies are pleased around you
@@billweeks9606his excitement shown through him literally hopping over to celebrate with his teammate (who had already finished swimming). *Its a dumb rule.* Just accept it
@@billweeks9606it's also illegal to walk down the street with an ice cream cone in your back pocket in some states. Don't you think some rules are plain dumb?
@@billweeks9606 how bout you breakdown that rule for us? How tf did his action disrupt the race in anyway??
The fact his teammate *already* finished the race and when he crossed his teammates line to celebrate hes “disqualified”
I like how the judges don’t have enough balls to actually show themselves when making a dumb decision like that.
Afraid the spectators may chuck them in the pool😁
Bruh, the rules are there for a reason. Also nobody has to show themselves on camera for you to see. This is not a fight, people are just doing the job they are paid to do. It's not like the judges gain anything from him not winning. They are just doing their job.
@@webrevolution.found the judge
@@webrevolution. bro will lick anyone's boots christ almighty
@@webrevolution. They could have let it go. Rules are there for safety and fairness of the sport. In no way did his actions interfere with the outcome of the race. The fact that they are judges and could not use good "judgement" appears that they weren't doing their job
Respect to his teammate, that's a man with integrity.
@HelpMeplease991 you are some random teen who makes "music" and tryna get some attention for that cash by spamming comments with your alt account promoting your real account and trying to make your comment seem relevant by associating your comment with the video's topic
tegridy
Well his heart is in the right place but he was wrong to "defend" Lloyd. This implies that him being disqualified is at least potentially someone else's fault. That isn't the case. Lloyd disqualified himself and there is nothing that could be done about it. It is terrible and upsetting but, there is no injustice to right here.
@@joshuamorrison8332so I've seen a lot of people say that the Rule Lloyd broke is a discretionary rule which means the judges could've decided not to count it as in this case it didn't interfere with Ross who had already finished but they still decided to enforce the rule.
@@joshuamorrison8332 🤓
3:07 “So basically you fell into another guys lane by accident while you were both celebrating That caused a massive disruption because the swimmers 50 yards away from you could obviously notice. Next time, don’t celebrate a lifetime achievement.”
So stupid. Its not like he was showing poor sportsmanship by gloating in his competator's faces or being vulgar. He was just celebrating with him. Poor guy.
His teammate is a real one for voicing his opinion during the interview and refusing to take the podium.
Stand up young man right there.
Eh you guys give him too much credit, I'm sure he'd agree.
In the end, he took the podium
@@RobbyBabesI feel the same way, like it actually would have been wrong of his teammate to not say anything
True sportsmanship for sure.
His team mate is a legend for standing up and defending his team mate.
I wished I could see how he stayed on podium for the second, leaving the top empty. Did that happen?
His teammate did what he was supposed to do.
Class act.
Using the word legend loosely… I bet you call your mom a legend for her driving you to school.
@@sforza209those are 2 complete different scenario’s
Props to the person who ended up 'winning' in the end after Owen's disqualification. He stood up for him and did the right thing even if he was being told he won.
This feels like you have your birthday but no one is giving you a present bc of Christmas
Props to the guy who said he wasn't gonna take the glory while they snatched the obvious winner's dreams away. The referees made a fool out of that event and themselves.
i wouldnt do that, and he never did, he won it fair and square.
@@goodbyemr.anderson5065what do you mean, I hope you aren’t saying he didn’t give it to him. Cause they both came out and said that it was given to him, it’s in his room. It went to the rightful winner
@@zealotdraws3017Your overuse of pronouns makes it impossible to follow what you are saying.
@@philipmccracken697 no it doesn't lol
@@philipmccracken6973rd grader reading comprehension skills
"He will be getting that medal"
The closest thing to "FU judges" without actually saying it.
Also an absolute daydream.
@@debrasnipes7431 Well, no. They are going to put that medal around his neck and he can easily take it off and give it to his teammate. Not super surprising that someone would do it, either. Who in hell wants a gold medal for a race in which everyone saw him finish second?
You just did! ...and rightfully so!
not second but first since one got disqualified . @@mrdevito2063
@@the_one_and_carpool the point went right over your head.
His friend was finished in the race for over 10 seconds and they still disqualify him for "crossing the lane before he had finished" Like what???
The people that disqualified him should be ashamed of themselves
all sport judges are there for the power trip. shame is not compatible with that desire.
A young man trains hard his whole life to become the best!
An old POS gets to judge him in 2 seconds, ruining everything he's worked for. Human beings suck. Society sucks. The more you know 🌈
thats what you young kids think these days. Rules are put in place in society for reasons. doesnt matter circumstance.
@@mikegrazio5376the judges could have given them all a warning before, plus it's ridiculous to disqualify someone just because they celebrated their long awaited victory 💀
God loves you all
This was literally one of those moments where an official is free to interpret a rule as they personally see fit. The rule exists to prevent any interference of another swimmer before the race is finished. 0 swimmers were interfered with. The official is an asshole. Honestly I think the crowd should have gone on riot.
And on top of that consider the following. Some nasty competitor deliberately takes an hour to complete the heat so noone can exit the pool or they are disqualified. To all the blind sheep reciting "rules are rules", I guess you did not think of that.
Nah, it was more so the rules being shit to begin with. Judges make decisions based on the rules, and try to not do it on their own opinions, and its most likely this was always never allowed and they're just applying that. Awful, but probably absolutely not the judges fault, but whoever makes the rules for the national qualification.
@@tortoisewarrior4855100% the judges fault, making a judgement call in that situation, reaching the decision “let’s take away this kids medal for celebrating with his teammate who finished even though he interfered with no one” 🤡
Whoever decided this, should show his name and face.
@@tortoisewarrior4855
How is the rule shit?
You can interfere with other swimmers, seems like a most obvious rule, Otherwise whats stopping you from kicking, punching or biting a swimmer to beat him?
I agree with the judges, the race wasnt over, and hes blocking other lanes.
"LETS GOO I WON!"
Referee: HES HAVING FUN? HOW CAN THAT BE? DISQUALIFIED!!!!
The sole reason judges exist is to make a nuanced decision in situations like these, might as well just let a robot check a positive or negative for any rules lol That judge is clearly unfit for their job
Crossing into the lane of someone who is still swimming would be a reasonable disqualification. But the swimmer in the next lane had finished also. This decision is totally bonkers.
That's what I'm saying... Dude was already done and even celebrated WITH him... WTF?!?
Yup. The referee is just a power obsessive human being. This decision tells a lot of his/her character.
Was this upheld?
That other finisher WAS HIS TEAMMATE
100%
His teammate was a class act with that " he will be getting that medal"
Totally agree
well I don't want to be that guy but.... I'm a terrible human being and even I wouldn't want that hunk of metal, It doesn't feel earned, where's the pride in it?
that alone is enough for both to earn
@@bungiecrimes7247 What do you mean
@@qqy He means the guy who came in second, he wouldn't want the medal because he didn't deserve it, Lloyd deserves it
You must be kidding what S was that? To cancel someone's joy at such an achievement. Someone definitely got out of bed from the wrong side that day.
His teammate is such a chad on making that bold stand against that unfair disqualification.
@user-se3kj5ej4d I am just a fish
@user-se3kj5ej4d buhu
was surprised, yeah. to see some honesty and good sportsmanship in sports...unheard of
@user-se3kj5ej4dNo. No more content creators! Get a job.
Rules is rules my dear
referees were 100% hall monitors when they were in school
gingers and hated by literally everyone
@@AdamFontenet-jf3qp they might grow up to be power tripping Karens. IDK
usually they are parents who really care about ALL these kids. It's tragic but absolutely the right call.
They all volunteered to be Umps at little league games and yelled at children for breaking big major league game rules.
@@AdamFontenet-jf3qpyou're too literal...
This is like getting a 0 in the middle of your math test because you asked the person in front of you for a calculator
The judges really said ☝️🤓 with that announcement
"Let's ruin someone's career for the jokes"
@@joris5429 ferme ta gueule, ne refais pas le monde à ta façon personne ne réagit comme ça c'est ridicule
@@joris5429what ?
@@joris5429what are you yapping about?
The game is rigged
National Soft Athletic Association
Props for the judge for letting 3.5M people witness greatness opposed to a few thousand
His reaction made it worth it
Great point 👉
💯
Big law suit , who made that decision? Its not like that lane was still swimming
Sorry, pal. Your backhanded wit gets a you a forehanded rebuke: There's no sport without competitors. Like so many other things, it's all about RESPECT.
Not only was the lane he entered swimmer done he was celebrating with him. Two good friends just enjoying after a competitive heat. Definitely judges didn’t use their judgment correctly here.
BRO EVEN THE ANNOUNCER SAYS “GET ON THAT LANE” 0:42
ah yes, interference with someone who finished the race
Someone didnt like that he was happy and wanted to change that
and is also your teammate
@@atte9702 If I'm misrable, why shouldn't you be either. Look at me I'm a referee btw and I hate my life
Fr! Makes no sense. Interference my ass. Even the announcers were stunned.
Between this and males swimming against women I will never watch another swimming event.
As a swimmer, I always knew this rule. We had to wait for the last swimmer to finish before crossing into other lanes to congratulate the winner or a teammate... that being said, as long as a swimmer doesn't cross into an active lane, IT SHOULDN'T MATTER.
You'll break the buoy line. He's dumb. He deserved to be disqualified......you can't break things.
@sasquatchrosefarts9131 they buoy line was fine dumbshit. No he didn't deserve to be disqualified.
@@sasquatchrosefartsdid he break it though? No, he wasn't even close. Stop yapping
@sasquatchrosefarts9131 at practice, we would have to run sprints and do pushups if we were caught going over a lane line... and being tasked with restringing the line through the rings.
This DQ had nothing to do with the lane line, it would have been the same if he swam under it.
@@sasquatchrosefartsworst post ever...you must be a sore looser, because a winner would not have said what you did
Ridiculous decision, extremely unsporting. A warning would suffice. Good on Ross Dant! Honourable man, true friend ❤
Imagine getting disqualified for being happy for a few minutes because your hours and hours of grueling hard work finally paid off.
"lane 4 was disqualified for crossing into another competitor's lane before finishing"
my brother in christ he was done swimming
Some people were like "but the others weren't done swimming" like my brother in christ how would those little splashes he made "interfere" with the others
before the race itself was finished.. there were other swimmer still racing... but still a stupid decision in this case but rule is rule i guess wcy
@@user-ip8vf2ky9p those are the rules. He knows them.
Rules are Rules
@@user-ip8vf2ky9p That's not the point, but nice try.
The judges should be disqualified from judging ever again
God loves you all
@@dizo-jp2tdgod wouldn’t have judged him so unfairly
@@alcyonaecorrect!
@@dizo-jp2td God doesn't love these judges
They probably found out he supports Trump. Wouldn't be the first time I see something like that.
referee got bullied in school
Bruh.
Imagine actually getting bullied in school, and afterwards you get hated on for it instead of the ones doing the bullying.
Anyone defending the decision in the comment section is a loser. It would make sense if he crossed over into someone's lane who was still finishing the race but he didn't.
fr
He absolutely did Not "Interfere with an ongoing race".The lane he went into was his Teammate's and He'd Finished. This is sickening. Years of hard work taken for a nonsense call. They Must reinstate his Record time, and allow him to continue his career in the Nationals as He Earned.
It's like they made the call out of pure spite.
Yeah they should be make a rule for every case...
He egregiously went into another player's lane and was rightfully disqualified. I would have banned him for the rest of the year for such a shocking display of behavior.
lol you troll@@LHS427
@@LHS427bait
He crossed the lane to a teammate who was already finished.
To celebrate.
That is the dumbest ruling use on a situation calling for it ever.
The kid trained a very long time for that event. Then to take it from him with such reasoning?
Uncalled for. Very unsportsmanlike as a judge. That judge or judges should be banned from these events for that call.
This needs to be overturned.
Ten four!
rules are rules
@@AiVaultGuyRules are made for a reason, to blindly follow them is ignorant at best. Context is very important
@@AiVaultGuy and he didn’t break any rules as he didn’t interfere with the other swimmer’s race. both swimmers were done when he crossed into the other lane
@@gonnn777F "nO gUyS, yOu DoN't uNdErStAnD. We sHoUlD AlL jUsT FoLlOw tHe RuLeS eVeN WhEn tHeY DoN't mAkE SeNsE tO bE PuT iNtO eFfEcT"
What a teammate. Much people would just be happy that they won.
This is like those VR chat people who get mad at you for taking pictures of them 💀
As someone who does not watch swimming, the NCAA just gave me a great reason to never watch it again.
So, no loss to them.
My thoughts as i was watching the video.
It was just sad...
@@MattMcConaha Yeah one guy might not be a lot of a loss to them, but when me, him and many others do the same, thats when the damage comes
@@MattMcConaha Pure trash comment. You know this was BS. Don't be that guy.
Same
Most people don't realise just how good a friend and/or sport the other guy was. At 0:43, when it happens, you can see the friend notice it, tell him "Dude.." and literally try to PUSH him back to his own lane. He even tries to be discreet about it with the camera there, which he awkwardly smiles at.
"He WILL be getting that medal" what a friend good for him
Yeah it's a nice touch but unfortunately the official results will show that the medal is not his and that's all people will look at. Shame
@user-se3kj5ej4d womp womp 🤡
@user-se3kj5ej4d what?? shamelessly self promoting with an unrelated comment. There are better ways to reach people.
Straight up Battle Buddy.
@@ALBINO1D It's not even a real user. Just a farm bot with stolen content. Don't waste your time lol
That’s like a dick move you’d expect from a school PE teacher who always had a grudge against you during the entire school year for no reason.
@@lopez8277is your brain dented?
@@lopez8277 grow up
@@lopez8277 >> that would be cheating
How is celebrating with his teammate, who had ALSO completed the race, even _slightly_ cheating?
True@@mbg4681
@@lopez8277How stupid are you??
I played soccer almost all my life, touching a ball is so different compared to cheering your win with your teammate that already finished the swim as well.
You must have a rough life for being so cruel. Touching a ball is literally everything against soccer. Since you can only use your feet😭😭💀
the judge went on to moderate r/minecraft
The #2 kid showed great courage of conviction.........a real team mate and a real man.
Absolutely. Impressive young man.
W mans
Dang it even sounds like the lady announcer was going to cry at the end
100%. He in protest stated he would not accept the default win, as Owen was the one who deserved the win.
ya man, imagine how embarrassing it is for the #2 swimmer, who didn't win #1 due to skill, and Owen didn't cheat nor disrupt.
Like anyone who is the #2 swimmer will know they didn't earn the medal, as witnessed LIVE on TV.
Judges clearly didn't think this through and made a haste, lack of human element, decision.
similar case of DQ on technicality but
Don Calhoun "He Made A Million Dollar Shot And They Didn't Want To Pay Him".
Even if "legally right", Michael Joran still felt its wrong.
I hope that miserable judge watches this every now and then and sees how much everyone hates him for this. What a mean-spirited, pedantic, pretentious ruling.
We all know the only reason he disqualified that man was because he was happy and the judge wasn't. Totally miserable and sharing it with another person.