@@juanchoresultay2704 There's absolutely no way it would beat Schindler's List (but I prefer The Joy Luck Club). It was robbed nominations though and would likely win SAG Ensemble if that award existed back then and if the movie was taken seriously. The one Oscar it possibly could have won is supporting actress for Tsai Chin, it's a joke that year how Anna Paquin won it.
thank god it didn't, that fake woke group of people would have ruined this gem as well, this don't need their recognition. they choose not to give this one attention purposely.
It's actually harder living with a woman who constantly whines that she is not good enough. It's not anyone's job to make you feel good about yourself. Take care of yourself first before starting to complain about everyone around you not cherishing you enough.
Use to watch this as a child and never understood the "I ate opium and died for my daughter's sake" reference until I got older, basically symbolizing her rebirth and breaking the family generational curse that haunted her mother's mother.
To add to what you said, I interpreted this scene as her paying an ode and giving honor to the sacrifices made by the women before her. Thus, helping her fully realize her worth. That there was no need to diminish herself completely for her husband and his world but that who she was and her story gave her life incredible value. This was a beautiful scene indeed.
And unfortunately we still have this problem, a young women not knowing her worth. I surprisingly was able to get it the first time I saw it, think cause I was a Korean adoptee.
watching the movies that my mom was watching while I was growing up has helped me to understand her now that I am an adult myself. I wonder after the sorrowful artist that must live within her. I definitely credit my music and film tastes to her, I have many memories of watching films like this with her
@@chloryfish3013 I did. A very long time ago. Unfortunately, it was after I watched the movie. The actors, the scenery and directing bought the messages to life. Beautiful movie. ❤❤
Me too. I can remember on three separate occasions being in crappy relationships, where I gave up myself to cater to the other person, and I watched this movie, especially this scene, and broke up with the person.
Ted started to understand Rose much better when he realize how much she was hurting inside. It was why he made those changes to never isolate her again. In the film's end, Ted and Rose reconciled.
@@ladyfire44 She isolated herself. Ted wanted an equal partner, but she could not see herself to be an equal partner. It's not Ted's fault she had such low regard for herself. It's not even her upbringing (Rose's mother was a strong woman who did not bully her daughter into meekness). She was solely responsible for her own mess.
What trauma did she experience actually. It was Rose's mother who experienced trauma back in China. Rose was just a sad soul who wanted to make everyone around her feel awkward.
To see actors like Rosalind Chao and Tsai Chin and Lauren Tom and Tamlyn Tomita limited to reductive Asian stereotype roles is a fucking crime. Look how amazing they are when given the opportunity and role to flourish.
Rosalind Chao should have received an Oscar nomination for this performance- as well as Mrs. Tsai Chin. "The Joy Luck Club" is a beautiful, joyous masterpiece!
Yes, one of the best and powerful scenes of the movie! Rose takes her word and her worth. Ted listens inseatd of reacting angrily or running away...wow.
What was I supposed to do?! What she want me to do?! Vivian Wu gave me a order She say no matter what don't come out that box! was I supposed to come out and die?!
Rosalind Chao is an amazing actress. ‘Thousand Pieces of Gold’ is another great movie she stars in and she played Mulan’s mother in the recent live action remake. Hope to see her in more films!
I have seen this movie about three times and it is so intense but beautiful. It's such an incredible story that makes me speechless and admire it more each time I watch it.
Imagine years of a partner who can’t even tell you what she’d like for dinner and then all of a sudden she tells you she ate opium 60 years ago and she’s not taking any more shit from anyone. 😂 It is SO HARD to speak up when you feel you aren’t good enough; that your desires don’t matter because YOU don’t matter. And when you finally do it, there are gonna be people who walk away. But if you’re lucky, at least a few will kneel down and say, “I’m listening.”
Wife: Get out of my house. Husband: It's our house. We agreed to sell it. Wife: I ate opium. Husband: I'm calling the cops. Wife: Wait, it was an analogy.
Andrew McCarthy did a good job in this film. He loved her and stood up against his family's prejudice for her. Unfortunately, he couldn't give her the self esteem she so desperately needed. Thankfully, she finally realized her true worth.
You 12? You use critical thinking like a child what TF. You completely MISS the point entirely….perhaps you’re young….more likely you’re just very uneducated….you watch this whole movie? I’m guessing not 🙄🤡. I wouldn’t bother either….it’d go WAY over your head. Stick to silly superhero’s or some 💩🤮.
@@vrcmf3172 lmao... do you not see the irony in your statement? I could say the exaxt same thing to you. Youre very triggered off a movie scene, to the point that you direct your comment TO THE CHARACTER as if she can hear you 🤣 Oh boy... thanks for the laugh this morning :)
Rosalind Chao. Her best-known roles have been Soon-Lee Klinger in the mid-1980s CBS show _AfterMASH_ , Rose Hsu Jordan in the 1993 movie _The Joy Luck Club_ , the recurring character Keiko O'Brien on _Star Trek: The Next Generation_ and _Star Trek: Deep Space Nine_ in the 1990s, and Dr. Kim on _The O.C._ in 2003. She also played Hua Li, Mulan’s mother, in the live-action 2020 remake of _Mulan_ .
This scene always annoyed me. Why do men need to see a woman be a stoic, unemotional being in order to take her seriously or to think she has worth? I need to move to Canada.
He didnt think she had worth bc she was stoic, he thought she had worth bc she finally stood up for herself, loved and respected herself. Remember when they met? She was sassy. She was confident and held her own with him, and its probably partly why he fell for her. He came from old money and was attractive,, he most likely was used to women throwing themselves at him. Then they got married & somewhere along the way she lost herself. It can happen to the best of us. She lost her self worth & sense of who she was, always putting him first even when it hurt her. She didnt love herself anymore, and it showed, and it made HIM start falling out of love with her, hence their problems & his affair - and no the affair wasnt her fault, but it was in paet a consequence of her losing herself. Then she gets it back. She remembers who she is. And she TELLS him. She's herself again, and he sees that - the soul he fell in love with has come to the surface again instead of being pushed down deep inside. And he's interested, intrigued, touched. He's even a little in awe of her. And he says.... "I'm listening".
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She pushed him away in the first place. She even admitted/took accountability for her part in this. He tried and tried then gave up because she had given up on herself.
Yea you missed the point ENTIRELY of how profoundly SHE had changed and he along with it…..their love was real. Way to make it cheap and silly. My god you 15 or what? Hopefully just young and ignorant. More than likely old and ignorant 🙄😂🤡
Rose's storyline was the worst. No one forced her to do anything. She was the one who destroyed herself. Ted never undervalued her. He fought his mother for her. She was the one who always put herself down. Her character is so annoying.
Its only annoying because you didn't understand the subtle but powerful nuances of what her character represented.... That storyline in some ways was arguably the most powerful. Her grandmother was wrongfully treated, and grew up in an Era and society with no support to women, genetically this carried on through the lineage because it was never cleared. The daughter avenged her mother by recognizing her worth, but based on anger, pain and a vindication that was rightfully understood but did not heal the pain or liberate the ghost of her mother... it was implied the grandmother came back to "finish" her work of self worth through the granddaughter who resembed the same gentle temperament as her grand mother. No one has to force anyone, or even have a traumatic childhood to not understand self worth Something as simple as "self sacrifice" as a way of "showing love" can undermine one's self worth. So this scene was actually for me one of the most powerful....
What happened to ted?! He called out for her! He called her name! And she weren't there cause she was never there! And she thinks I'm a coward?! She was wrong! I'm not a coward! She the coward I'm not a coward!
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This film was made way ahead of its time. It would be an Oscar contender if it was made today.
Definitely would’ve won an Oscar
It would have been the first all asian cast to win best picture before parasite
Definitely
@@juanchoresultay2704 There's absolutely no way it would beat Schindler's List (but I prefer The Joy Luck Club). It was robbed nominations though and would likely win SAG Ensemble if that award existed back then and if the movie was taken seriously. The one Oscar it possibly could have won is supporting actress for Tsai Chin, it's a joke that year how Anna Paquin won it.
thank god it didn't, that fake woke group of people would have ruined this gem as well, this don't need their recognition. they choose not to give this one attention purposely.
She's finally realizing her worth; is hard for women in our society. Still, in the year 2020. One of the best movies of all time in my humble opinion.
It's actually harder living with a woman who constantly whines that she is not good enough. It's not anyone's job to make you feel good about yourself. Take care of yourself first before starting to complain about everyone around you not cherishing you enough.
@@sallieceelee5660 Do you need therapy ?
@Jeffrey Royer You should retrain then !
@@sallieceelee5660 Well said 👍
@@clincpb8903 why you said that?
Use to watch this as a child and never understood the "I ate opium and died for my daughter's sake" reference until I got older, basically symbolizing her rebirth and breaking the family generational curse that haunted her mother's mother.
To add to what you said, I interpreted this scene as her paying an ode and giving honor to the sacrifices made by the women before her. Thus, helping her fully realize her worth. That there was no need to diminish herself completely for her husband and his world but that who she was and her story gave her life incredible value. This was a beautiful scene indeed.
Me tooo
And unfortunately we still have this problem, a young women not knowing her worth. I surprisingly was able to get it the first time I saw it, think cause I was a Korean adoptee.
Chinese people from China believe in reincarnation so she might’ve been talking about her past life
@@tinahuttner7280Not feeling worthy isn’t something happening to a specific gender. It’s happening to both genders
My favorite move EVER! These words from the 4 mothers has carried me thru most of my life and I’m 85years young.
This movie has carried me for most of my adult life. My favorite movie of all time. ❤❤❤
Libra Love Jones Tarot If you love the movie, you should check out the novel :)
watching the movies that my mom was watching while I was growing up has helped me to understand her now that I am an adult myself. I wonder after the sorrowful artist that must live within her. I definitely credit my music and film tastes to her, I have many memories of watching films like this with her
@@chloryfish3013 I did. A very long time ago. Unfortunately, it was after I watched the movie. The actors, the scenery and directing bought the messages to life. Beautiful movie. ❤❤
Me too. I can remember on three separate occasions being in crappy relationships, where I gave up myself to cater to the other person, and I watched this movie, especially this scene, and broke up with the person.
@@faerietygers1323Boss Chick ⭐
I love this. He didn’t understand her trauma. Her upbringing and what she came from.
Ted started to understand Rose much better when he realize how much she was hurting inside. It was why he made those changes to never isolate her again. In the film's end, Ted and Rose reconciled.
@@ladyfire44 She isolated herself. Ted wanted an equal partner, but she could not see herself to be an equal partner. It's not Ted's fault she had such low regard for herself. It's not even her upbringing (Rose's mother was a strong woman who did not bully her daughter into meekness). She was solely responsible for her own mess.
What trauma did she experience actually. It was Rose's mother who experienced trauma back in China. Rose was just a sad soul who wanted to make everyone around her feel awkward.
I think it's more like she didn't understand it.
What was her mistake?
Trusting me?! Depending on me
She think I could've do this
Wouldn't she give any ranger that order?!
To see actors like Rosalind Chao and Tsai Chin and Lauren Tom and Tamlyn Tomita limited to reductive Asian stereotype roles is a fucking crime.
Look how amazing they are when given the opportunity and role to flourish.
What, exactly do you expect them to play? Kojak? Shaft? Nacho Libre? What? Leave them alone and quit griping!
@@lemonhead162all he said is that they shouldn’t ONLY play small stereotype roles. calm down.
Rosalind Chao should have received an Oscar nomination for this performance- as well as Mrs. Tsai Chin. "The Joy Luck Club" is a beautiful, joyous masterpiece!
WE know her from startrek
Yes, one of the best and powerful scenes of the movie! Rose takes her word and her worth. Ted listens inseatd of reacting angrily or running away...wow.
He really loved her and needed both her and his daughter he was underneath a loving man
I love it when people talk to and actually listen to one another. Makes things a whole lot easier and better 🤗
Never happens irl ):
@@michellelekas211 One can always hope 🤗
What was I supposed to do?!
What she want me to do?!
Vivian Wu gave me a order
She say no matter what don't come out that box! was I supposed to come out and die?!
Most important part of speech is listening
We need to listen. The less we do, the more problematic it will be.
Rosalind Chao is an amazing actress. ‘Thousand Pieces of Gold’ is another great movie she stars in and she played Mulan’s mother in the recent live action remake. Hope to see her in more films!
Just bawling... this scene was so powerful. Breaking generational habits.
this scene is everything
Love this scene, but my favorite is the "best quality heart" scene towards the end. Happy tears every time.
I have seen this movie about three times and it is so intense but beautiful. It's such an incredible story that makes me speechless and admire it more each time I watch it.
One of the most moving scenes I've seen in a movie! The moment you realize that you matter!
ted crying made me cry.
Best scene in a great movie!
So many Outstanding performances were in this film, but for me Rosalind Chao and Lauren Tom were the highlights.
I've always admired this character when I first saw this movie
So...we're not talking about the awesome cinematography???
Maaaaan I need to rewatch this movie, it's gold!
Imagine years of a partner who can’t even tell you what she’d like for dinner and then all of a sudden she tells you she ate opium 60 years ago and she’s not taking any more shit from anyone. 😂
It is SO HARD to speak up when you feel you aren’t good enough; that your desires don’t matter because YOU don’t matter. And when you finally do it, there are gonna be people who walk away. But if you’re lucky, at least a few will kneel down and say, “I’m listening.”
She says “get out of my house” then invites the entire trisolaran race to earth! 😂
what a wonderfull film with wonderfull music!
My favorite scene in the movie!
This is a GREAT movie. ❤❤❤
I wish they but this on RUclips. I saw it with my daughter and of my friends
Lots of life lessons in this great book and movie.
Andrew McCarthy that’s why I bought this movie 😀
Wife: Get out of my house.
Husband: It's our house. We agreed to sell it.
Wife: I ate opium.
Husband: I'm calling the cops.
Wife: Wait, it was an analogy.
She Cray Cray
Me: rose what was I supposed to do?! What did you want me to do?!
*vineboom*
0:28
Rose: (to Ted) Get out of my house. You heard me. Get out!
This is 4 anyone finally realizing they're worth as human being
Amazing movie
Rosalind Chao had almost no screen time in The Big Brawl(1980). She had a brief cameo on The Incredible Hulk TV show.
Now she’s in 3 Body Problem
Wasn’t she in the MASH finale? And the spin off? I think so.
its like her being tragic is really just her being the victim of situations she put herself in
Yea you’re missing the entire point 🙄😂 hopefully you’re just young with little life experience if not….wow…..pay attention more.
@@6Haunted-Days im only 20 stawwp
Chief Obrien should have let keiko cancel the wedding
Tutu inn inn is ehhh ok 👍
Andrew McCarthy did a good job in this film. He loved her and stood up against his family's prejudice for her. Unfortunately, he couldn't give her the self esteem she so desperately needed. Thankfully, she finally realized her true worth.
Sounds ridiculous cuz she had no idea ab the story. Now she gonna tell him she’s the reincarnation of her grandma as it’s a fact lmao she lost it
You 12? You use critical thinking like a child what TF. You completely MISS the point entirely….perhaps you’re young….more likely you’re just very uneducated….you watch this whole movie? I’m guessing not 🙄🤡. I wouldn’t bother either….it’d go WAY over your head. Stick to silly superhero’s or some 💩🤮.
Exactly I've tried everything 😪I no longer need anyone to please I can't take that anymore I'm moving on too
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All-Good but legally half the house is his… so you come up with the money or?
Way to completely miss the point AND project your own shit onto a beautiful scene.
@@merkitten953 it’s a movie. Relax
@@vrcmf3172 lmao... do you not see the irony in your statement? I could say the exaxt same thing to you. Youre very triggered off a movie scene, to the point that you direct your comment TO THE CHARACTER as if she can hear you 🤣
Oh boy... thanks for the laugh this morning :)
@@merkitten953 I mean mine was a joke. Your clearly salty. It’s okay… I get it you don’t have a life. But relax
@@vrcmf3172 you’re dense clearly
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who's the actress? she looks familiar
Rosalind Chao. Her best-known roles have been Soon-Lee Klinger in the mid-1980s CBS show _AfterMASH_ , Rose Hsu Jordan in the 1993 movie _The Joy Luck Club_ , the recurring character Keiko O'Brien on _Star Trek: The Next Generation_ and _Star Trek: Deep Space Nine_ in the 1990s, and Dr. Kim on _The O.C._ in 2003. She also played Hua Li, Mulan’s mother, in the live-action 2020 remake of _Mulan_ .
@@RaymondHng thank you!
This scene always annoyed me. Why do men need to see a woman be a stoic, unemotional being in order to take her seriously or to think she has worth? I need to move to Canada.
He didnt think she had worth bc she was stoic, he thought she had worth bc she finally stood up for herself, loved and respected herself. Remember when they met? She was sassy. She was confident and held her own with him, and its probably partly why he fell for her. He came from old money and was attractive,, he most likely was used to women throwing themselves at him.
Then they got married & somewhere along the way she lost herself. It can happen to the best of us. She lost her self worth & sense of who she was, always putting him first even when it hurt her. She didnt love herself anymore, and it showed, and it made HIM start falling out of love with her, hence their problems & his affair - and no the affair wasnt her fault, but it was in paet a consequence of her losing herself.
Then she gets it back. She remembers who she is. And she TELLS him. She's herself again, and he sees that - the soul he fell in love with has come to the surface again instead of being pushed down deep inside.
And he's interested, intrigued, touched. He's even a little in awe of her. And he says....
"I'm listening".
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She gave this climactic speech only to take him back.. 🙄
She pushed him away in the first place. She even admitted/took accountability for her part in this. He tried and tried then gave up because she had given up on herself.
@@2EKgn16 exactly he even said I want to hear from you for once I want to hear what you have to say I want to hear your opinion
Yea you missed the point ENTIRELY of how profoundly SHE had changed and he along with it…..their love was real. Way to make it cheap and silly. My god you 15 or what? Hopefully just young and ignorant. More than likely old and ignorant 🙄😂🤡
@@sheenam9211yep exactly! Men don’t get it….when do they ever?
If my partner start talking like this, I'll know she lost it...
Don’t talk if you don’t know the context. You make yourself sound very simple and idiotic.
Rose's storyline was the worst. No one forced her to do anything. She was the one who destroyed herself. Ted never undervalued her. He fought his mother for her. She was the one who always put herself down. Her character is so annoying.
Did you base this on what the movie portrayed or what the novel actually encapsulated?
@@subaruthecar2217 The movie, since this video is from the movie.
Its only annoying because you didn't understand the subtle but powerful nuances of what her character represented....
That storyline in some ways was arguably the most powerful. Her grandmother was wrongfully treated, and grew up in an Era and society with no support to women, genetically this carried on through the lineage because it was never cleared. The daughter avenged her mother by recognizing her worth, but based on anger, pain and a vindication that was rightfully understood but did not heal the pain or liberate the ghost of her mother... it was implied the grandmother came back to "finish" her work of self worth through the granddaughter who resembed the same gentle temperament as her grand mother.
No one has to force anyone, or even have a traumatic childhood to not understand self worth
Something as simple as "self sacrifice" as a way of "showing love" can undermine one's self worth.
So this scene was actually for me one of the most powerful....
What happened to ted?!
He called out for her!
He called her name!
And she weren't there cause she was never there!
And she thinks I'm a coward?!
She was wrong! I'm not a coward!
She the coward I'm not a coward!
@@sallieceelee5660 Sometimes, it's better read than watched when it comes to movies based on popular novels.
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