2021 Aprilia Tuono, Hidden Secrets! HD 1080p
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2021
- In this, one of my longer VLOG's we delve for the first time into the new Tuono to look for 3 hidden items;
1. Does it have a Lithium Battery?
2. Does it have the Piaggio "PMP" connection?
3. Does it have the USB power take off?
Two and a half of these questions are answered as we look "under the hood" at the 2021 Aprilia Tuono Factory.
In case you don't care for nearly 30 minutes of my sparkling wit and charismatic presence, you can use these time marks as points where you might want to drop in a view;
1. Lithium Battery; 8:20
2. PMP; 15:58
3. USB Power; 22:18
4. Summary of what I found; 25:22
Incidentally in this VLOG I used the Sony ZV-1 camera with the Synco G-1 wireless mic set up. I am rather pleased with the audio quality, how about you?
To wrap it all up, fun digging into the Aprilia revealed (mostly) good results, a few disappointments, and some fun times here at Wistful Vista's. 
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Thanks for the useful information. Traded in my 1200rs my21 for a new v4 ultra dark. A salute from the Netherlands.
Thank you for the very kind words! Please ride safe in the Netherlands and enjoy!
So helpful, thank You! Another thing to note is the body panel shoulder bolts tend to squish the plastic and bottom out. This will then cause the rivnuts to spin making removal difficult. I needed to wedge something against the plastic whole loosening to get them to break free. I then added a washer on top of the plastic to compensate. A drop of loctite helps along the outer edge of the rivnut to resist future spinning. Or, have the rivnut re set with a proper tool.
Thanks for the kind words Curtis and also for the tip here! Yes, I agree, although I did not have this issue with my own work. I like the idea of using the washer and a bit o' loctite. I have found that the body panel screws need to be handled carefully because they will distort. Also too easy to over tighten!
Great tip!
Great video...I'll be searching for that USB charger on my 2020 Tuono Misano tomorrow. Love your sense of humor. I was dying watching you try to take the seat off...that was me the first time for sure. 😂😂😂
Yeah, that one fought a bit and then POP! Why not leave it in and show the world how mistakes are done? LOL
You'll find the USB under the left had fascia......let us know how it turns out please?
Great video.
Thanks for the excellent content.
Thanks Johnny, nice of you to share the kind comment and it means a lot to me!
2017 panel screws where all the same except the silver screen ones
Love the video and your sense of humour keep the good work up buddy
Yeah, I thought so Ashely. Thanks for the comment! I wonder if they're just having to scrounge at the factory to keep things going?
again a great video of you 👍
Thanks again!
Garey, the different seat screw bolts are easily explained: your dealer lost one of the OE bolts when fitting the non-OE charging fly lead. Ask the supplying the dealer to fix that. It is very unprofessional. Optimate need to brand their Lithium-ion leads accordingly; it is not the responsibility of Piaggio. The fascia self-tapping screws vary in length because they need to be!
Keep those vids coming. Very entertaining. I ride a MY2020. They really are fabulous machines. Ride safe!
Thanks! Yes, and I'm seeming to recall that when the bikes are shipped crated the seat is not installed? Not sure about that so maybe it shouldn't be blamed on Aprilia......but unprofessional to be sure.
I have also by now checked them with my "fishing" magnet and the shiny one is non-magnetic stainless steel, the black one is steel, magnetic. I wish I could leave it at that but I can't so I will source another correct bolt for the seat.
Yes, it's totally good news that the bike does come with the Lithium Battery and I am curious why Aprilia do not make better publicity for this? I think most owners would be pleased, and certainly it helps to inform them that it is no longer a lead based battery so if they have an older battery maintainer it will not and should not be used.
And to you as well, Ride Safe!
@@GareyCooperdude Garey, Thanks for the response. Whether the seats are pre-installed or not on delivery, they are removed as part of the pre-delivery inspection (PDI) by the dealer. In the UK at least, Aprilia do not come supplied with battery charge leads.That allows the owner to buy any charger (tender) he or she wants. So for example, we can therefore choose to use CTEK products. However, here the dealers seem to fit Optimate leads. I think therefore your dealer when fitting the Optimate lead lost the stainless bolt and couldn't be bothered to find and fit the correct replacement. When you present the machine for the initial service the correct bolt should be supplied and fitted by your dealer.
Great video Gary, you are a cool dude. Greetings from U K 🇬🇧
Hey, thanks for the shout out there dude! UK is is OK, by me.....great roads there when it isn't raining. You made an old guys day!
Bonjour
I got my RSV4 E5 (european version with turn lights in the headlight, not in the mirrors)
Thank you for the time spent on the video and the shared information
I fully agree, getting the rear seat off is a misery. The very first time I had to ask for help and use my 2 hands... I don't know how to send feedback to Aprilia in order to improve it however.
I bought an Optimate monitor for Li battery. It comes with a connector which have a green rubber around to indicate it is Li specific. Otherwise, I looked around and on my bike there is no Optimate cable pre-installed. Not a big deal however, everything is in the box.
Best regards
Interesting it seems that I have heard from other European riders that the charging cable is not pre-installed on EU machines.....but we envy the built in turn signals!
Very informative Garey. Agree totally with your comments on the battery. Optimate have a Lithium specific charger and clearly use the (07) form factor connector. When fitted on Lithium batteries, the connectors usually have a Green cap on to signify Lithium. Clearly Aprilia do not know this. As I have a PMP on my current 2019 Tuono, I will take that off when I swap it as it looks as if it will fit. As for USB, that is a given so nice to know Piaggio were thinking about us. Cutting that panel is not nice. Oh and your comment on Bits and Bob's. As I am in the UK and we use this term a lot, I think the answer originates from carpenters' tool kits containing parts for a drill, with bits used for making holes while bobs are routing or screwdriving drill attachments. Oh and the seats screws being different is very bad. They should be in the form of the silver bolt with the blank locating section at the bottom of the screw. To start bolts directly with thread (like the black anodized bolt), is wrong and will result in cross threading. On a safety item like the seat that is not good. When next in the dealers for your 600 mile first service, get it changed under warranty. Take care and great sound by the way.
Okay, an education in UK history in ONE paragraph Bob! That's huge buddy......and now that you mention it a "bob" used in USA terms might also be referred to as a "Plumb bob" which is that lead weight used to find level....so maybe there is a connection there as well.....
The older PMP may fit and work, just don't know. I have reached out to AF1 Racing here in the US who are fairly well known Aprilia specialists...and they have told me that the new PMP requires a dealer installation as the dash/ECU must be programmed to use it....still researching this.
Panel and USB is really good news. I have already ordered the Piaggio adapter so hopefully will install this next week.
And finally, bad really bad on the two bolts. I have also by now checked these with my magnetic "fishing" tool, and the black one is steel while the shiny one is Stainless Steel, non-magnetic. AND, you recall my ADD, I will not be able to stand this so I need to pay probably the over priced money for the 2nd Stainless bolt.
Great comment.
hey garey, Loved you videos, would mind from where you get the gas tank cap, loved it and the tank sticker, as in Europe its new model so still waiting for after market products.. cheers.
Hello, certainly. As far as the gas cap and tank protector are concerned the same units that worked with the 2017 model I had will work with the 2021. But I used the TWM gas cap,TWM QUICK ACTION CNC ALUMINUM GAS CAP FOR APRILIA. I got the one with the red lever. You can order the one that would fit models from 2017-2020 and it will fit the 2021. I don't know if you are in the USA, but several companies carry these; Motomillion, Revzilla, etc. and in the USA you can get them on Amazon.
The Tank protector is more or less "generic" and I found this on AF1 racing. But once again you can find these on Amazon. And even though the gas tank is slightly different on the 2021 model, tank protectors from earlier years will fit as well.
Good luck, hope this helps!
The plug you found behind the upper left side panel is indeed the PMP / MIA connector , the PMP unit cost here in europe about 134 euro after connection you probable have to go to the dealer for a software update that was the case here in the Netherlands without the update the unit will not function , with the unit working you can leave your phone in your pocket because everything will work thru your display and left buttons on the bike you even will have navigation on it.
Thanks! Excellent comment. I have by now reached out to a local (in Texas) Aprilia specialist and they've told me the same thing. In fact they will not sell it over the net so I'll need to return to the dealer to get this and it must be programmed to work with it, I was told the dash and the ECU require updating to use.
I will install this at a future date.
Thanks good comment sir.
@@GareyCooperdude this is not correct i live in london and couldnt find MIA waiting list, i found one in Spain while on holiday, brought it back and fitted it myself. it works perfectly , without any need for a update. its seems to be plug and play. although it does work the map display is not the best, but it does work.
@@andypowell420 Well, that is interesting! It is definitely put about in the US at least that to properly install and function one must have the dealer install and update via the dash/dealer control software module......Hmmm.....thanks for the info. I have yet to get mine and now I need to think if I want to make the trek to the dealer or not.The last time I checked you could only purchase it via the dealer.
500 here in usa
PMP and MIA is Plug and Play? Great video! Greets from Germany Bavaria
The Blue Tooth Module as I understand it is NOT Plug and Play this time around. From the information that I have they require a dealer install as the ECU requires updating so the display can fully utilize the information.....
Ride safe in beautiful Bavaria!
A bolt has a nut on the end wether fixed or free.
A screw does not have a nut and usually holds 2 surfaces together using its specialised thread.
Haha, thanks for the tech explanation there Shane....I've always just said if it's small it must be a screw. Just how small did it have to be to be a screw? Well, until now I never figured that one out! But thinks to you we know.
my usb port was tucked all the way behind the the screen. I had to remove the windshield to find it. Quick question, are the parts for the RS660 and tuono660 interchangeable? I cant find frame sliders for the Tuono, but my dealership has plenty for the RS.
I don't know the answer to that......it would be kind of strange if they weren't the same thread size anyway....but I cannot comment don't know.
I would say more than highly likely the dealer lost the original screw under the seat and not the factory, they have the seat off to PDI the bike. And I had my 2021 Tuono out the other day my indicators self cancel, I live in Northern Ireland btw keep up the good work appreciate the videos.
Been up there in Northern Ireland myself, other than the weather which can be "challenging" lots of nice riding roads! A bucket list ambition of mine is to see the Northern 200.
Yes, I am thinking as you are that probably the dealer lost the bolt during the delivery process because I seem to recall that as crated at the factory the seat is not installed typically?
I have by now checked the bolts with my magnetic "fishing" tool and the black one is steel, while the shiny one must be stainless steel non-magnetic.
I wonder why my turn indicators don't seem to self-cancel? I did look in the manual and if there is advice on how to change that condition I cannot find it.....it may be buried in the menu's on the settings one goes through on the dash? I will continue to explore this but so far no joy.
Glad you like the video's, it is my old age hobby...and I do hope they help the community out there!
Ride safe and enjoy those roads with more than your fair share of sunshine.....LOL
@@GareyCooperdude Hi Garey, yes the weather is not so good now probably that was my last ride this year, the Northwest 200 is on my doorstep, unfortunately not run the last two years because of Covid, but hopefully 2022 it will return🤞🏼🤞🏼
Hi, nice video. My ’21 Tuono (Netherlands) doesn’t have the battery recharging cable 😥 but the PMP and USB connectors are waiting for parts from the dealer🤞.
So interesting that some countries seem to have different specifications/standards than others....
But I would say you should double check on whether or not the cable is there. Mine was well hidden in the rear area under the pillion/rear cover piece.
If it is not there it is not very difficult to add one, they are for sale in the after market. Check which type of batter you have, I have the Lithium as I note in this VLOG. But this will determine which battery maintainer cable you need to select.
Having said all that I am not going to use a battery maintainer because my experience with the Lithium batteries lasting has been so good.
I have just ordered the PMP and USB as well!
Ride safe!
I can confirm that. (Kwam ik ook net achter.)
Hi Gary, your video regarding the USB plug was so helpful, thank you, I was wondering if you have received your Bluetooth PMP module yet, I’ve received mine & was waiting for your install video on how to get this up & running, I assume you need to download an app to your phone & then pair the unit to it as I did on my 2017 Tuono I think that app was called V4, do you know what the app is called for the 2021 Tuono, hope all is well with you Gary thanks Simon Southampton UK
Howdy Simon, all the way from Southampton! Isn't that where the Victory is on display? Think I've been there....
On the PMP, no sir I've not received it yet. I ordered it about 3 weeks ago and was told it was "in stock" but it would take 4-5 weeks to get to the shop. Hmmm, not sure what "in stock" means to them?
BUT, and this is a big one, I was also told that this needed to be installed by a dealer. Supposedly, the display has to be re-programmed which requires the dealer ECU hook up to do. I have no further information than that.....and the fact that you have received yours gives me some hope that my own may not be too far from delivery.
The previous generation phone/bluetooth app was called "V4-MP." And yes, in that case after installation of the device and download of the app on to your phone you paired it like almost any other bluetooth system.
So, sorry not much more info than that......I will share of course when my own does come in...in the meantime ride safe!
@@GareyCooperdude I had them throw one when when I bought my Tuono. It's honestly a pretty massive disappointment. The navigation doesn't work at all and no one from Aprilia will respond to tech support requests. I can occasionally get it to hook up to my helmet but it's intermittent. I've broken down and bought a ram mount and just connected the phone directly into my helmet.
Hey there, just checked my Tuono and I have the same battery but there is no connection for Optimate charger. I guess your dealer installed this before selling the bike. I was hoping I got one too.
Mike, that is a bummer....make sure that you poke around a bit to see that it's not really there. I don't understand why it would be on mine and not on all the other '21's?
Are you in the USA?
one thing I would say I don't like is the music while your speaking it's to loud.
Ah, you're killing me Steve! I was thinking it's so professional with a little music in the background.....LOL.....what if I toned it down even more?
Hello I am new here and thinking to buy a tuono,just a question
I thought 2021model has front LED blinkers,why is that blinkers sticking out from the front cowlings?
Sorry if u mentioned it at the previous video
Not sure I completely understand you, but they can be LED and still be mounted where the earlier turn signals were located. I do believe they are LED based lights, but I will have to check on that. I am out of town for the next couple of days and will double check that they are indeed LED’s.
Just note that there are usual regulations that require the turn signals to be mounted on those extended arms.
And, if you want to have flush mounted turn signals one generally has to buy an aftermarket set of turn signals that are flush mounted.
Hope this helps!
@@GareyCooperdude
Thanks for your reply,I am from Japan
Hope that reguration of Japan allows flush mounted turn signals ones
Thankyou again!
@@GareyCooperdude the European model has integrated turn signals I.e. not on stalks like your US model.
@@pak1golf Thank you for that knowledge! It explains a lot.
I seem to recall also that if you re-flash with the "Race" ECU it enables the turn signal function on the front?
That’s what Victor Moto on RUclips tells me too. If you reflash you get the integrated LED turn signals within the headlight assembly.
Is there any room under seat for a small puncture repair kit to be kept ?
I just don't think so Glen.....it'd have to be very tiny. You might be able to squeeze it in there, but I'm doubtful. Let me know how it goes if you do try it sir.
I must say that it has occurred to me that just possibly one could hollow out an area of the seat for documents, etc......but you'd have to ruin a seat to try this.
Sorry.
@@GareyCooperdude thanks for the reply, I'll let you know.. collecting my v4 at the end of this week 👍
Hi Garey I’m in uk, I removed the panel to find the USB plug & it isn’t there, it’s got the cover/cap in the face of the panel that you remove to fit the USB so it’s annoying that it’s not there.
Howdy Simon, interesting that it wouldn't be there? I just wonder if yours is just pushed so far over you can't see it or get to it? Mine was stuffed pretty far back in the panel, so much so that I had to reach it with some needle nosed pliers to get it to wriggle out. Is it a 2021?
Hard to believe that a factory as small as Aprilia would make a series solely for the UK vs. US? But all things are possible I suppose.
I do know my friend in the UK, Ashley Johnson, had one on his 2017 or 2018 model.
Last comment is that I'd really pester the dealer to see if they supplied the UK bikes without it.
Bummer is all I would say.
Oh, and a PS...do you have the Lithium battery?
@@GareyCooperdude Hi Garey thanks for replying so quick, yes i had the 2017 model before this & that one had the USB plug behind the panel, yes my new one is the latest 21 model Tuono the same as yours with the Lithium battery i only looked for the USB plug today so haven't replaced the panel yet, I will go now & look again & will report back thanks Simon
Hey Simon glad to help. It just struck me that perhaps you even have to remove the right side fascia/panel as well as the left in order to make sure that it's there or not there?
Hi Garey, great news, thanks to you I've found it but would never had thought that it would be stuffed down so far, it was under the main big black wiring loom cable, exactly the same plug as the one on my 2017 Tuono & has USB written on the cable, the 2 main dealers i contacted both said Aprilia didn't put one on the 2021 Tuono, they haven't got a patch on you Gary, now it appears that the actual USB that plugs on is out of stock, unless anyone knows where i can get one, i took a picture but i cant figure out how to get it on here, Cheers & happy days Simon
@@simyam2123 Awesome Simon! I couldn't believe that Aprilia had the wherewithal to build highly differentiated bikes for different markets at such detail. Being an ex manufacturer myself you try to pick the "universal" and then use some scale of manufacturing to build economically.
So, I have ordered one from my dealer here in San Diego who said that the Aprilia warehouse showed them in stock...having said that they aren't supposed to be here until mid November making it about a 4 -6 week delivery period...not sure what "in stock" means to them? But I do have one on order.
I have also perused the web for an adapter but remembering this is a Lithium to USB, I cannot find one that I'd chance upon.
I will be sure to VLOG when I get the adapter.
Anyway great news dude and ride safe over there!
Bro?what happend to the phantom windscreen?
? Nothing happened.....I do have my gate transponder on there which is the white paper sensor you may be seeing?
Like we know its easy to drop the seat screws down, the dealer probably dropped and lost one in there or outside and put some crappy screw they had laying in the workshop. They could have just sourced one from their parts department but probably not in stock. Check around you might find the original lying in some crevice
Good advice Akshay, I had forgotten to probe around with my magnetic "fishing" tool to see if I can discover the screw down in the bike. I will do that in the next day or so. It does bug me that there are two different screws on the seat.
And yes, my local dealer tells me that delivery and stock of many parts are either late, long, or just not available at this time.