The Ultegra chainset is 65g more........1 and half small packets of crisps.............at the most! Thanks for this video. Ultegra is definitely the best value (racy) groupset. At the end of the day you're paying for the image because DA is the no.1 groupset in the range so I guess they have to price it highly to make it seem worth it. If it was 25% more to buy, in people's minds it wouldn't feel as desirable. When you charge a very high price (up to a point) it creates exclusivity in people's minds. Anyway, no more rambling......I'm off out for cycle.
Sometimes the lighter more expesive cranks have been slightly less stiff but 99.xx precent of us are not monster track sprinters so we will never be able to tell anyways. And me personally ultegra is where I limit my self to as the small weight savings of durace vs the big price jump is money I can spend else where
Thank you again for another amazing video. This was exactly what I was looking for. I just subscribed to your channel and looking forward to more of you videos!
I think you said it best at the end when you told us to go on a diet, carry less water, or less weight in our kits. The very marginal difference between DuraAce and Ultegra isn't worth the price unless you are being sponsored or have money to burn (like my doctor, for example, who charges $200 to walk into your hospital room and ask how you're feeling).
The latest Dura Ace shifters re more adjustable and have a faster nd lighter action hence why i bought a set whereas the rest of the set is fine as R8000 or evne the 6800. The other part really worth swapping out is the front derailler it's work a treat and is very easy to adjust.
I’ll take the Ultregra, plus I think they look much racier. The DA are simply gloss black and the sharp design cues just disappear into the monotone color.
Excellent video, thank you for going through the process of literally showing the difference. At my current level of ability, the difference in weight is negligible and certainly not worth the price. I've made my choice and will going with the Ultegra.
I dont know if I missed it but what was the overall weight savings, because im looking to get a stages power meter and upgrade crankset at the same time, if its under 80g weight save I think I would go Ultegra, but dura ace looks so damn nice.
There are tons of carbon cranks titanium cranks not so much. Bought r8000 crank my self for 188$. Shimano weights for an aluminum crank compete with the carbon ones partially because of there charings
Hi Guy, I like the comparison of the venerable shimano dura ace vs ultegra. For someone like me the ultegra would be perfect. The cosmetic appearance of the dura ace is simply beautiful, the high gloss black is rich. If money is not a factor id go for the top end dura ace on looks alone. I'm using a praxis works alba twin ring on a 2019 Specialized Sirrus elite pro carbon bike disk brakes flat bar bike but would like to upgrade my chainring krank set in the near future. Enjoyed your presentation very much. 🚲👍
Hey I have a 2015 Sirrus expert disc. It's a fantastic bike but compared to my Grandfondo BMC 105 with rim brakes it's hella slow. Was thinking of putting drops on it before gaining the BMC.
You saved me from needless spending. I like your parting words in this video
695grams ultegra vs 630grams dura ace only 65grams diference but the price is double triple.
I went with the Dura Ace because I prefer the color.
The Ultegra chainset is 65g more........1 and half small packets of crisps.............at the most! Thanks for this video. Ultegra is definitely the best value (racy) groupset. At the end of the day you're paying for the image because DA is the no.1 groupset in the range so I guess they have to price it highly to make it seem worth it. If it was 25% more to buy, in people's minds it wouldn't feel as desirable. When you charge a very high price (up to a point) it creates exclusivity in people's minds. Anyway, no more rambling......I'm off out for cycle.
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Sometimes the lighter more expesive cranks have been slightly less stiff but 99.xx precent of us are not monster track sprinters so we will never be able to tell anyways. And me personally ultegra is where I limit my self to as the small weight savings of durace vs the big price jump is money I can spend else where
Exactly👍
I do agree with you..
Free To Cycle is the same asymmetry?
Do you mean r8000 crank is much stiffer than r9100?
Thank you again for another amazing video. This was exactly what I was looking for. I just subscribed to your channel and looking forward to more of you videos!
Great comparison and technical comments!! Cheers!
Dura-Ace for color, but 99.999% of all cyclists and triathletes should just get Ultegra.
I think you said it best at the end when you told us to go on a diet, carry less water, or less weight in our kits. The very marginal difference between DuraAce and Ultegra isn't worth the price unless you are being sponsored or have money to burn (like my doctor, for example, who charges $200 to walk into your hospital room and ask how you're feeling).
The latest Dura Ace shifters re more adjustable and have a faster nd lighter action hence why i bought a set whereas the rest of the set is fine as R8000 or evne the 6800. The other part really worth swapping out is the front derailler it's work a treat and is very easy to adjust.
I’ll take the Ultregra, plus I think they look much racier. The DA are simply gloss black and the sharp design cues just disappear into the monotone color.
Excellent video, thank you for going through the process of literally showing the difference. At my current level of ability, the difference in weight is negligible and certainly not worth the price. I've made my choice and will going with the Ultegra.
99.9999% of cyclists and triathletes should do the same... Ultegra.
i'm looking to go for the 50/34 combo and been trying to figure out the best return for price! this helps a lot! thanks!
Excellent comparison, thank you!
Awesome comparison! Thanks...TD Denver, CO
Thanks!
I dont know if I missed it but what was the overall weight savings, because im looking to get a stages power meter and upgrade crankset at the same time, if its under 80g weight save I think I would go Ultegra, but dura ace looks so damn nice.
can you fit the entire dura ace crankset onto a ultegra groupset?
Yes!
Another excellent video. Will R8000 Ultegra chain rings fit on a 9100 Dura Ace crankset
Yes
Thanks. Excellent review.
Can you put ultegra chain rings on the dura ace cranks, especially the big one? Got the cranks now but maintenance would be cheaper that way?
Yes you could fit Ultegra chain rings to the Dura Ace crank arm.
Thx for the info. That was also my question. I have compact chainrings with my ultegra gs but want to go 54/42. Great vid btw 👍
Thanks for all these comparison videos! Do you know if the Ultegra 8000 crank arms fit the 9100 chainrings and vice versa?
Yes the chainrings are interchangeably between the two models.
Free To Cycle Awesome. Thanks!
@@kerrybui8835💯💯
nice video
Yeah, I'm a fat old cyclist but my Titanium bike feels faster, aren't there Carbon Fiber or Titanium cranks as well?
There are tons of carbon cranks titanium cranks not so much. Bought r8000 crank my self for 188$. Shimano weights for an aluminum crank compete with the carbon ones partially because of there charings
where did you get it for 188?
@@carlosfonseca697 wiggle or deportvillage is good
@@carlosfonseca697 188€ Ultegra crankset
are the crank arms compatible?
Yes!
R 9200 in 2021
Hi Guy, I like the comparison of the venerable shimano dura ace vs ultegra. For someone like me the ultegra would be perfect. The cosmetic appearance of the dura ace is simply beautiful, the high gloss black is rich. If money is not a factor id go for the top end dura ace on looks alone. I'm using a praxis works alba twin ring on a 2019 Specialized Sirrus elite pro carbon bike disk brakes flat bar bike but would like to upgrade my chainring krank set in the near future. Enjoyed your presentation very much. 🚲👍
Hey I have a 2015 Sirrus expert disc. It's a fantastic bike but compared to my Grandfondo BMC 105 with rim brakes it's hella slow. Was thinking of putting drops on it before gaining the BMC.
2.5 ounces
Is the spindle the same?
Same size!
@@FreeToCycle yes I know they're 24mm, but ate they built of similar materials and strength? Are they equal in that sense?
Same as far as i know!
@@FreeToCycle alright, I think I'll go ultegra cause i've heard they are indeed heavier but also more stout/ sturdy.
hey i have a ribble too
It’s all relative if you can get high end DA etc...you get it. If you can’t well you get what you can afford. Just get ride 👍