BEAUTIFUL lumber from a dying Sycamore tree!
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2018
- Felling an incredible American Sycamore tree and taking it to the Wood Mizer.
Thanks for watching!
This tree was a lot of fun when I was growing up. It had great climbing branches and seed balls that were a perfect target for a BB g.un. Today it comes down to make room for a Magnolia tree.
Thanks for the for mentioning me. In my way of thinking, that's what social media should be all about, sharing both what you know and learn to make our world a better place.
Darrel Carson You are welcome. I just wish you had some videos of your LT40 to promote! I really do appreciate your advice Mr. Carson.
Nice work guy! I liked story of your sentimental connection with the tree.
Thank you for taking us along for the ride.... I enjoyed it
My grandparents had an american sycamore in their back yard in Gladstone, Mo. It was a huge old tree and I always enjoyed the single rope swing. You could climb so high you could peer out over the tops of all the other trees in the neighborhood. Had to be well over 100yrs old as the girth was immense.
But alas, after my granny passed several years ago, Dad had to have the tree removed as it was in very poor health.
But my memories are still strong.
Great story, Ken. Thanks for sharing that. Trees tend to take up space in our hearts for some reason.
thats the first time i seen a tree go down so slowly well done that was a good to see from Wales
I had to have two HUGE sycs cut down last year. Gonna have to find a way to get those trunks that are close to four feet across milled for me. I have chain saw slabbed and routed smooth some of the smaller pieces and the grain is awesome. In the process of making a desk top, book case and a few other items from them.
At last, Sycamore is such an underappreciated wood. So glad to see it getting showcased.
Excellent job, thanks for not turning that into firewood! Keep up the good work!!
I like the way you mention others and give credit to them. You seem like a good guy.
Great, I worked in a sawmill as a young man buy never saw Sycamore before. Thanks
Wow, never knew sycamore was so beautiful!!
Great videos
beautiful boards...and harvested it just at the right time...🙂👊👍👌🌳
They turned out nice!
Great video as always! Keep up the great work and the lumber is beautiful I’m sure you will do great things with it!
Jack Stanley Thanks
Jack! Always appreciate your great comments.
That is a fine piece of work and great tips on the cutting as well...
Nice job!
Fall Line Ridge man thats some pretty red wood grain.Thanks bless you.
So glad you pointed out that sawyers cut dying or diseased trees or trees from construction sites or trees removed that may be dangerous. The public sometimes gives us a bad rap thinking we just are destroying forests. Really enjoy your videos!
Have a huge sycamore in my back yard. Over 3ft diameter trunk at the base. Love that tree. Gives the best shade in the summer.
There is a sycamore in a neighbor's yard. I remember that tree being in that yard when I was finally old enough to prowl the neighborhood alone. The houses along this street were built and first occupied mid 1954. So, my best guess is that the tree is 66 + years old. It towers over the houses. Is always fairly leafed out up top during the spring thru fall, but it is a messy tree, always, always dropping dead wood. I bet there is some beautiful wood in that tree.
If you are falling trees for Timber only I would be cutting them as close to the ground as possible and in some cases I would be digging around them to get lower, Chains are cheap and relatively easy to sharpen once you get the hang of it.
Great content I’m sure you will find a great place for that.
You should always quarter saw sycamore.keeps the wood more stable plus get a really nice fleck pattern.try it, you will like it much better.
sawingdummie You aren’t the first to suggest that. I’ll give it a try next chance I get. Thanks!
I'll second that. Quarter sawn sycamore is beautiful. I have a bunch of 5 quarter drying in the barn now.
The way you cut it, you got at least two quarter sawn boards at 19:20 (after removing the pith.
I was just about to say the same thing myself.
I have TONS of sycamore trees in my back yard... I'm actually growing one from seed for the craps and giggles... I have found it fun to be honest.
Beautiful wood
beautiful lumber.
Well, about the wood. I use it for firewood but after seeing this I will save the trunk for slabs. Thanks Fall Line Ridge guy.
I have used the same stuff to coat the ends of the logs. But I have found that just about any paint will do the same thing and mismatch paint at the paint store is very cheap. Of course some of my boards may be purple or pink on the end but it works too stop end splitting so I am happy
My first couple of trees I felled were of the same death is lurking technique ...Big trees...Didnt have you tube back then with great tutorials on how to properly cut a tree down..
A tree fall with zero injuries is a successful tree fall.
Some good looking wood
Your sycamore became sicklymore! Ha!
Beautiful wood though. Nice job. Thanks for sharing. I would love to see the finished product, once the wood is dried.
A suggestion, when you have a log so far from your mill, lay a rope from the mill to the log, over the log and back to the mill. Anchor the mill end with a stake and pull on the log end. If you strong enough the log will roll all the way to the mill. Just a little faster than than the Cant Hook.
Through your fine video, Sycamore has been redeemed in my eyes. Before retirement I worked for a hardwood veneer mill that ran a brief experiment with Sycamore. Under the veneer knife, it appeared to be a soft, coarse fibered wood that peeled quite rough in comparison to oaks, gums and poplars. Peeling the outer rings off in sequence does not display the beautiful cross grain you expose with your sawmill. A brief experiment with hickory showed it to be an ornery powerful wood that won every skirmish with tools as well as other woods. It was too strong to use in laminate products and every fiber from bark to core waged war on mill equipment. By comparison, Sycamore was gentle on equipment.
Good point about blade speed and engine speed.
Thought I was having a past acid trip slo mo session
"All right young ones, this is a perfect example of how not to cut down a tree."
Beautiful wood - I would love to see what youve made with it 😄
good job
Thanks, Glenn!
Thank you ....we have a huge old sycamore that limbs are falling out of and the roots are getting into our sewer lines so it must be removed and I am so interested in getting a mill and getting wood out of all the huge old trees on our property. I was given the impression that the sycamore tree wood was too soft to be good for anything but the inside of drawers for furniture.....now I am hopeful it can be used for other things....Thank you.
Great video, and camera work.
Thanks! And thanks for watching!
Good looking slabs! Keep us informed as to how they dry and what you build out of them .
I'll try, thanks for watching!
Nice video,
Thanks for watching!
If you ever run across another sycamore, quarter saw it. You wont believe how incredible it is....
thanks
Two years ago, my neighbor felled a large dead sycamore (26" DBH) and let me have the trunk. I had a sawyer quarter-saw the wood, after which I stacked it with stickers to dry in my shop. This year, I tried using some of this wood for a river pour, and I found out that sycamore dried to 8-10% moisture is like a sponge. Not only that, but it's also soft for a hardwood, a bit softer than yellow pine. The river pour turned into an ordeal, compared to my several pours using walnut slabs, but I managed to salvage the project. If the wood hadn't had nice flecking and spalting, I'd have trashed that pour. Quarter-sawn sycamore certainly can look nice, but in my experience, it's not very good wood to work with. I prefer walnut, maple, and cherry in the way of domestic hardwoods.
Keep us updated on how the Sycamore drys and turns out.
I'll try!
Did I spy a couple your old BB shot in the cut lumber? thanks for sharing.
how much do you think you could get from one of those slabs?
I had the exact thing happen to a big one here. Drought killed it and the tree started dropping limbs. It is a beautiful wood tree - I call it American Mahogany with the beautiful rays and sparkle in the wood. Hope yours is. Dad had a big big one on his farm - it was over 15' in circumference and was killed by the local cement company with dry cement dust on the leaves almost every day. Killed his hole side forest before the FED was called in to clean them out. Dangerous to human as well. Good luck. Good for the Anchorseal I use it on my turning stock.
What’d you end up doing with the lumber?
Been watching your videos for a couple days now and was curious if you'd milled any sycamore. My pulpit at church is sycamore, but I've never seen it used anywhere else. It made a beautiful piece of furniture. Nice to see what the slabs look like.
Being from Calgary I've never seen Sycamore lumber before, at least nothing but photos & definately nothing this pretty! What a beautiful stack of wood, would love to have that sitting in my shop.
I would be very happy with just the stump to work on!!
No hinge on the fell. Pretty slab for gumwood tree.
Most sycamore I've seen (Eastern Ky) are much taller! Sycamore is a very pretty light color but you wouldn't want to try to make shingles out of it.. Glad there was no more wind blowing than there was, could has been dangerous!
Just an observation, not a criticism. When felling a tree for milling, most people and this includes safety experts walk away when they hear the first crack. I don't. Keep sawing until it's toppling. There's still plenty time to escape and it reduces centre splinter which can ruin the centre planks. Also, for milling. lift the thin end of the log so your first cut is parallel to the centre line. You'll learn son. Practice makes perfect. Regards.
Wow, It's been years since I have seen a Husqvarna L65 at work. Vintage!
Bill Elliott Best saw ever made. Thanks for watching!
I can send you a spare or 4 for the cost of shipping, I'm serious.....They were great saws but most have been retired.
Bill Elliott I’d definitely be very interested. My email is falllineridge@gmail.com.
Nice wood, but I've only seen Sycamore quarter- sawn until now. I was scared for you as you were cutting the tree down in a method I had never witnessed before. Thankfully you survived.
Quartersawn sycamore is awesome. It has really nice fleck. Every time he picks up a saw it scares me...
The grain is nice like that. But quarter saw some, I think you will be surprised how it looks.
Not a bad idea, wish I had some left, thanks for watching!
He got two quarter sawn boards anyway, by default.
I wore a hat similar but a little smaller during my last two tours in 'Nam. Wore it till it wore out
Nice job sawing but a word of warning from experience. Sycamore lumber despite its beauty is notorious for warping and curling. To help with this you have to sticker it really well and weight it down heavy until it dries. Which takes alot longer than other woods as it hold an incredible amount of water. One other thing you noticed its softness you cant use it in a structural purpose. Its great in furniture or panels if you can dry it without the for mentioned issues. That all said that was some quite beautiful wood best of luck in processing it into something of beauty. I do love watching you video's.
Thanks, Ken! We stuck it in the kiln with stickers and concrete blocks on top. We will see how it goes.
My dad worked for W.M. Ritter lumber company back in the late '30s, and the trees they hated to cut and mill was the slick barked Sycamore. The foreman used to call Sycamore trees, " Natures hoax on wood. " They would saw them up for the furniture industries, with other woods like Blackgum, and poplar. Native cedar, and Lynn. Nothing was wasted at all. Not even the sawdust.
Sycamore does not warp or curl any more than any other hardwood. It is however notorious for picking up a grey discolouring, which then destroys all the beauty of the wood. This can be avoided by a) cleaning up all your sides and removing all the bark then b) treating the entire surface with a borax solution and finally c) storing the cut timber initially upright (i.e. as it has grown) for about 1-2 weeks, then stacking it in the usual manner.
@@wolfgangschulze-zachau2422 i dont know where you are from but you not talking about Native North American Sycamore. I have worked with it all my life and its as i described. You most likely confusing it with some pther species elsewhere.
Yes, I am talking abut "THE" sycamore, which is the type species for all acers, acer pseudoplatanus. It appears you are talking about the american plane or platanus occidentalis, which is an entirely different species. We can probably argue all day long whether or not "sycamore" is a misnomer for this tree in the USA, so let's not do that.
Sure wish I can find some quarter sawn Sycamore for a classical guitar build.
Mizer has a lot of pro and con vs the lucas mill...If I had to choose I would buy the Lucas mill due to its flexibility in doing horizontal and vertical cuts without moving the log...
Nice
Yo man.....that's the first time I ever seen a wedge disappear in a backcut before...haha.
Anyway at least yo wearing a hard hat!
kutunui1 Matua Ha! Yep, I missed the backcut by a few inches on this one. Thanks for watching!
Put lots of weight on top that lumber while it drys. Sycamore is very active while drying.
Thanks, Darrel! It's in the kiln right now with concrete blocks on top. Hopefully that keeps it under control.
Need to watch a few Buckin Billy Ray Vids it will help you fall trees for sure.
At 2:47-2:50 the tree is smiling. It must remember you from when you were young. It has no idea what's coming.
Try anchoring a lumber strap on sawdust side of mill wrap around log then pull log to your mill makes allot more easy
Sycamore trees are like elm.their grain is twisted and subject to warping.When the boards are used for roofing the boards will spit the nails.You can hardly split this wood with a good hydralic splitter.The best use for this wood is bread bowls or wagon hubs.That is the reason you see so many sycamore tyrees that have never been harvested.
nice looking planks! Wish you would have cut the butt couple inches lower, so you could have had a full 8 ft.? The grain is very colourful, I’d bet that would be real nice to finish with linseed oil, once the boards are dried and planed.....I think your mill makes nice cuts, even, smooth, very consistant with that log. How many trees can you cut like that size, with a band before needing sharpening or replacing? cheers from northern Canada
This tree good is a firewood??
The key to that type of wood is curing it properly or else that will end up being firewood.
How did the lumber look after drying? I had heard that sycamore needs to be quarter sawn or it'll warp. Was that the case with your lumber, or did it turn out pretty straight?
Do you use your sawdust on your garden
Where are you located?
You had a dutchman on your facecut…it closed before it could use the rest of the face cut opening…thats why it fell so slowly
And I thought I was the last guy using a Husky to fell trees!
I do too. Two machines
Dam that tree ate your din din
Music to my ears seeing a sycamore tree cut down
I got 3 acres of ground an it must have have 40 of them nasty things the logs are so heavy its hard to pick them up by hand an takes seams like for ever to dry so you can burn up any of it an yes they will keep coming back
Wouldn't be better to take it down in the late winter to minimise water content?
I understand that you are on your property, but were I replacing an American sycamore, I would purchase and plant a London plane tree. The London plane is a cross between the American sycamore and the European plane tree. They are growing all over NYC and other big cities simply because they hold well to foot and other sorts of traffic.
Inexperienced cutter.
Shut the fuck up Greg.
It took a lot of effort to video this. Least you could new is not kick the guy in the balls.
As you got to where you gave her a shove,twice,I said out loud to nobody,only me.....she dont want to go guy,she just happy where she grew..........then you turn your back-and she gave up-was then that tears ran down my face.
The sycamore boards you want to really look at are the ones closer to the center of the tree. Sycamore has a very pronounced 1/4 sawn ray fleck appearance. Not quite like an oak but still very attractive wood. $$$
Where the end grain is 45-90° to the face of the board
You're not the first to mention that fleck appearance. Several have suggested quarter sawing, which would give those angles you mention. If I get some more Sycamore, I'll be sure to try that. Appreciate you watching.
If you cut the tree lower to the ground you have more wood to mil. And cut a tree calm down don't want to vast. It's only a tip. Her in the Netherlands we learn to cut a tree low from the ground because how more wood you have how more money you can make with the logs and you don't have to cut that Little stump.
Appreciate the tips! And thanks for watching!
Unless you suspect any root rot.
I drove big rigs for years (7 years puling 11 axle doubles hauling logs). The loggers always cut down to dirt but not into it. Their pay was by how much of that tree they sent to the mill. Over thousands of trees that adds up.
whats the point in sealing the end grain if you're going to mill it right away?
The end grain on the individual boards is still sealed even though the log is cut up. That should prevent checking due to rapid drying on each board.
The open pores on the end grain will dry faster than the side of the board and will split the ends badly.
how long did you wait to mill the log?
Four days from when the tree came down.
Only advising this as a RUclips sawmill addict. But Out of the Woods uses a very light coat applied with what looks like a rag (looks like half of what you're using). He only uses it on timber to be stored until the moisture is 20% prior to the kiln. Nick Fouch seals the ends of green timber beams, but your boards probably won't benefit.
Appreciate the advice. I'll just have to wait and see how they turn out. Still a learning experience.
Come October, prune that azela bush to shape it up for a more healthy bush
Hello, friend, good morning. How are you? I'm from Brazil and I really liked the video. Answer me: Do you use this wood to make furniture? Here in Brazil we know this wood by Platano (Platanus). Thank you very much and success. Wait.
How do you dry your lumber?
I either let it air dry or put it in a solar kiln.
Fall Line Ridge thank you. Is it possible to air dry and not need a kiln? I’m going to mill a walnut log with chainsaw mill for a dining table
I'm surprised that you didn't hit any BB's.
Here it is 9 months later. What happened to that stump? If you've still got it, I suggest you check out Roger Webb's site. He does wood turnings ,and I'd bet he could turn that chunk of wood into a thing of beauty, and a joy forever.
Beautiful lumber. Sycamore, btw, makes some really good syrup that's why it smells so sweet...because it is. I ran a logging crew for years and yes, you can damn sure get hurt if you don't take the time to make your back cut in the right place. Pine, for instance, is notorious for barber chairing and can shoot backwards at an incredible speed. Bore cutting or plunge cutting was developed to mitigate this danger. There are some good youtube videos on this. Love your mill btw.... pretty awesome cutting your own lumbar.
The chainsaw museum called, they want their saw back.
They can't have it.
Wise man! Those old saws are worth a lot. I always laugh when the name brand saw guys can't get theirs started and my Chinese clone no name saw just jumps to life. They used a much better choke process with no prime bulb than many of the branded saw manufacturers did. I am keeping my old saws for a while. A Homelite I have from the 70s is worth more than it cost new right now.
My 19-year- old Husky is Waaayyyy better than the two-year-old 455, which frankly, sucks. The older saws are better
I own a 272XP that I wont sell because I love it.
Best as a rule bottom cut runs parallel to ground on hillside run it up hill
Great tip, thanks!
Sycamore is best for figure when Quartersawn
Thanks for the tip, several have mentioned that. Thanks for watching!
YOu should quarter saw sycamore. You'd be surprised at the difference in the look.
How come the sycamore was dying?
Not sure. Could have been age. I could have just needed dead limbs trimmed off and it would have been fine. Either way, it was shedding dead limbs and we wanted to plant a Magnolia in its place.
@@falllineridge Oh... Well you sure did get some gorgeous boards out of of that tree!
You got more out of that than I thought you would
I was surprised myself. Thanks for watching!