Top 5 EVs w/ Kyle Connor - TST Podcast
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- What are the best EVs yet? Is charging getting better? Can the grid handle it? Which electric pickup would win in a cross-country race? Are batteries recyclable? All that and more with Kyle Connor.
Kyle Connor is a RUclipsr in command of a whopping 17 different channels. He focused on EVs, covering the space comprehensively. He has road tripped, towed with, tested, charged, and driven more EVs than most people will in a lifetime. As such, he has excellent insights into why EVs have the problems that they do, the state of the charging situation, battery recycling, the grid, and more.
He recently completed a cross-country "race", where he and his co-hosts drove from Florida to Los Angeles in 4 electric pickup trucks. The results were literally susprising.
Recorded March 13, 2024
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Finally. Kyle is a car enthusiast, all cars. His enthusiasm, energy and knowledge of EV is wild.
He's been on before. Last year. But glad he's back given how much has happened in the EV space in just a year.
Yeah Kyle is great!
Yea after following Kyle... "do all these car reviewers know anything about EV??????"
Love Kyle as a guest on TST
Kyle is an enthusiast regardless of power train. He certainly knows a lot about EV's.
One of my favorite guests! The combined knowledge in the room is incredible, always learn a ton listening to episodes with Kyle
On the CT panel fitment. I picked up my 2 motor Foundation 4 days ago on 032024. Before accepting, I did a slow walk around checking panel gaps. I am no Sandy Munro ... just an old retired guy ... but I can tell you that to my layman's eyes, the panel alignment, gaps, and stainless steel surfaces looked great at delivery. 4 days later, nothing appears to have rattled out of alignment. My serial number is in the 3200' range
kyle gotta become a regular! he's the man
Have wanted this podcast for quite some time. Awesome guest.
He's been on once before, for whatever it's worth.
@@yayinternets Nice, thanks. I'll look it up at some point.
Only charging the cybertruck to 30% 30 times across the country is nuts😂
Agreed but evidently the charging speed drops after 30%
@@liffei420 yeah it does drop off but that shows his determination to win and charge for the least amount of time. It’s like driving a truck across the country with a 6 gallon tank 😂
@carlosl5766 yeah pretty much it was fast to stop more often and charge less for the win, well second place. I am curious about the trip back charging to 80% and how that affects the time
@@carlosl5766 More like a truck with a 10 gallon tank but the last 4 gallons you have to use a hand pump to fill
Yes, it drops off but from 260 kW, then it runs still faster than the Ford lightning probably to at least 60% remember the cyber trucks starts off at double the speed of the lightning
Love Kyle. Great podcast.
Something to keep in mind is A: Tesla is a new (American) car company competing with old and very established car manufacturers. They have had to rush like crazy to keep themselves alive, and even now they have to do so to protect themselves from ensuing Chinese competitors. Yes, Rivian is new as well, but they’re still massively unprofitable and time will tell if they’re able to survive.
B: the only cyber trucks that are available now are first production low volume runs. There will undoubtedly be imperfections that they need to work through before they go in to high volume.
And C: This initially happened with the model 3, S, X and Model Y. ALL OF which are amazing vehicles now. The new model 3 is considered by many respected auto enthusiasts to be a 10/10
These guys totally missed the reason I ordered a Cybertruck, I have a model Y that is great but when driving on the highway rocks and other debri that gets kicked up all the time constantly nicks and dings my car, and I don't want to park next to other cars. With a Cybertruck all that goes away, you can blast down the highway and rocks and road debri are completely harmless. No other truck / car can give you that feature.
This! 👆 even if I park away from everyone in a giant parking lot, I always have someone parking right on top of me. 😩
Three amazing knowledgeable intelligent guys with integrity. Great fun.
Kyle is quickly becoming my fav guest(sans Your father) always has new fun stuff to talk about.
Love that you are talking about Mate Rimac. And Miro. I am from Croatia
Need to get Kyle in touch with the Edison guys.
I have been watching you and following you for like 10 years basically forever. This is my first time commenting today. So happy I can do it now.
I cant wait for the two ram EV/hybrid trucks to come out, they sound bonkers
Matt still hating hard on tesla as usual. So funny. 😂
He can’t help it, Elon fired his wife! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is funny to you? Seriously? @@Grundle_ItcH085
@@Grundle_ItcH085 I wonder if she is still unemployed...
I’m only watching for Kyle. Matt is an incredibly annoying luddite.
I thought Matt didn't think the Cybertruck was real.
That truck will never be made. 😂
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And it isn't made WELL. Lots of issues atm.
Been watching Kyle for about 5 years, influenced my decision on an EV (obviously I like gas too). My 91 560SEL had ctry/city horns.
Love when Kyle is on! He is a great guest with amazing level of knowledge surrounding all EVs
MATTS GROWL REGARDING R3X🤣
Love to see Kyle as a guest! Great episode.
Hey I was listening on Spotify when I saw the episode dropped on RUclips. What’s the best platform to use as far as supporting the channel? (Excluding Patreon)
They have somewhat addressed this in the past, and if I do recall it would most likely be YT because they get payed for views and watching through the ads help(although most skip past). They did say Spotify was the worst.
Spotify is the worst, watching ads on youtube helps more but if you have premium youtube pays more to the creator
youtube also has a lot better promotion then spotify with the home page
Basically a pit-stop race.
Great episode. E-Golfs don't get a lot of press but considering Cammisa still has his it must be alright.
Great guest
Glad to see Kyle on here.
Great show.
I’m in lil ol’ Estes Park Colorado and am pleasantly surprised with the number of ev work trucks up here. The one I see the most being a f150 lightning.
Great pod, thank you!
I'm always here for Out of Spec Kyle & Doug MeDuro.
Any fish that is this bad in climbing trees can’t be any good at swimming. The red mist enhances Matt’s reasoning.
TSTPC goes full TSTPC: the Turbo GT is a value(not wrong)
ALso Kyle is peak Kyle....9 Codas. I thought Aging Wheels was weird for one!
Kyle, you got yourself a sub from this podcast. I'm not too into EVs, but mostly because I find the coverage of them to be rather bland. But you, as an enthusiast, seem to find the wording to blend right in my head lol. Great podcast as always, guys!
Great show🎉
Kyle is in a league of his own with the EV wave that has pushed electric cars to do and go farther faster. Will EVs be the best overall transportation solution in the future? Well he has been able to bring it into the mainstream and I like it. I see hybrids being the answer. How come Kyle, who is from Colorado, looks like he is freezing in your California studio?
Kyle always wears hoodies indoors or out. Summer or winter
Good discussion.
Kyle always brings his A game. Great interview!
I know it may be too much work, but can we possibly get an on-screen list for each person?
Great episode, gents.
finally some content on the coast to coast run
I see Kyle, I click
Kyle is legit! always a great convo
"Cybertruck will slaughter a pedestrian!"
But a 2024 Ram 1500 hitting a pedestrian is somehow better?
Either option is not forgiving to the human body. Smart infrastructure & pedestrian avoidance is what the world needs. Statistically, human drivers ARE the problem when it comes to fatalities. The safest car is the one with the best software. We'll see how this race goes.
Tired of paper-thin statements which don't consider the current/alternative when criticizing the one they don't like.
Kyle: "I really can't wait to do a Taycan Turbo GT versus Lucid Saphire. That's going to be a great day at work."
Me: I can't wait to watch that!
Kyle!
my favorite guest. i almost only watch the episodes he’s on!!
59:14 lol, no, you can't make square things aerodynamic. The laws of physics are inviolable.
The Mad Greek!!! 🔥I hit that spot every time to and from Vegas
Matt “get off my lawn” Whatshisname….
Great podcast! Rimac Concept One was the first one they sold I believe
I liked Kyle when he was on previously, but I think I was a little intimidated by the thought of sorting through 17 channels. But after this appearance, I'm determined to give him some views. Dude is smart, interested in the cars and tech, and entertaining. I think his content will complement TST as well, slightly different focus, but the same sort of car guy.
I like all the OOS channels. I like watching him nerd out on everything. It's helped me learn a lot about EVs and all the inner workings since I was 100% ignorant on any of it.
Stick to out of spec reviews and out of spec motoring. Those are the main channels and most tune with your interest if you follow this channel.
OOS Motoring is the most fun to watch for me.
No unhinged rant about Tesla, major disappointment 😂
nice show
I got a MME GT in December when financing was 0% IPR. I’m loving it. Wonder how much it gets under ranked since it is less fun to talk about compared to Lucid, Rivian, Tesla, etc. but compared to EVs from other legacy auto makers, is it one of the better ones?
I have one too and love the car but hate the suspension. I think if ford fixed the suspension damping, especially the bouncing in the rear, people might stop overlooking it
Just traded in my Etron for a beautiful Ariya Eforce + awd in white. Great vehicle. Evs rock as daily drivers!
Out of Spec rocks! I’m a huge fan. Great content as is batteries not included and “State of Charge”
Of course “the smoking tire” too
I think the name is Conner, with an E. Pretty intersting episode guys :)
Love seeing reasonable non-politicised talk about EVs and cars, Kyle is certainly doing more for EV adoption than Elon
Today I realized Matt sounds like Seth Rogan.
The Cybertruck is not a fashion statement - it promises (eventually) many of the theoretical features that I, a consumer who will likely only have one truck at a time, want. For us aging baby boomers: Air suspension to lower the truck for entry but raise it for off road driving on fire trails and my 20-degree slope back yard. Built in bed cover. Payload over 1500 lbs (me and 3 fat friends with luggage, more payload is better). Ride - I am hoping they fix the "truck like" ride - I don't want to feel the expansion joints in the highway. Self-driving (eventually) and Self-Parking (Eventually), and all the safety bells and whistles. 500-mile range (promised eventually) and fast charging are high on the list. But right now, it is way too expensive and too much is "promised".
Right now I am looking for a very slightly used F150 Lightning Lariat Extended Range with Max Tow package - at a steeply discounted price. Love the ride and general cabin feel. The self-parking is a MUST - old men (and wives - 8) can't park a truck without it. Without Self-Parking I would be looking at a medium size truck or small truck. And yes, I plan to carry a 240 volt generator in the truck bed.
Finally, please come back down to earth. A family car / truck should cost no more than a year's salary, and ideally less than half a year salary, of the buyer. Super G/T is NOT very relevant to most of us. A friend of mine owns 2 older Vipers - and only drives them to the local car show once in a while. The rest of the time he drives a Subaru or Hummer. Most of us don't own Vipers.
God dang it Kyle! Not gonna spoil it, not gonna spoil it, ah screw it I’ll spoil it.
Benefit of tri motor setup is double the power on rear axel versus front using same electric motors which is pretty much optimal for launch traction and acceleration. Additionally torque vectoring that it seems like Lucid Saphire is only car to have optimized for performance and drivabillity
IMO, I think the best EV on the market right now is the HYUNDAI Ioniq 5N.
Matt is so offended that the cybertruck even exists.
It’s just hurts his soul knowing that a company decided to try to build something different for once.
It's not about that it's the fact they never deliver on what they say and sheep just eat it up
You’re talking about a car that is illegal in Europe for very good reasons! Different yes, appalling waste of resources yes. G-Wagon equally wasteful to build but will last for 40yrs so lifetime emissions not too bad, Cybertruck built to last until everyone who wants one has one ie about 5 years.
There a lot of valid reasons to not like the Cybertruck. He’s spot on when it comes to not trust Tesla w/ steer and brake by wire. Airplanes are subject to strict maintenance schedules for these devices. Not going to happen w/ common vehicles. And Tesla will cut corners when it comes to developing and implementing the systems. I’m neither a hater or a fanboy, just a realist.
He literally hates Tesla because his wife was employed until EM bought Twitter lol 😂
@@neilturner6749 "G-Wagon equally wasteful to build but will last for 40yrs so lifetime emissions not too bad" lmfao what
I'm Just as worried with ice cars as ev's when it comes to repair costs etc. The drivetrain on an ev is much simpler than an ice car and modern ice cars have so much electronics in anyway, that the outside the drivetrains they don't seem much different to me.
It would be epic if you did a Bentley Turbo R VS Cybetruck video😂
Kyle is probably one of my favorite RUclipsrs testing BEVs, without biased towards a particular Automaker. Used to follow Bjørn Nyland but can't stand anymore his biased for Tesla, as snob attitude about ICE cars, as using High School level locker-room jokes.
Only thing bad about Rivian is the front end is FUGLY. Bleah
nope
You’ve never driven the bmw rear wheel drive i4 40. You should definitely give it a go before you make a call on best driving dynamics. Also best luxury car - eqs or i7.
OMG dude juiced up that ford Mach e bomb to 100% every week and leaves it in his garage. Bro please research Mach e fires 😂😂😂😂
What's the actual news there? There aren't really some crazy number of Mach-E fires, let alone in homes.
In 2022, they recalled 500 Mach-E because of driving software problems. At the same time, they also recalled 39,000 Expeditions and Navigators (gas cars, obviously) and said they should be parked outside due to fire risk.
Charging to 100% is inefficient and unnecessary. But hardly dangerous.
*in a performance EV* the benefit of tri-motor vs dual is obvious, but diminishes immensely for a daily driver.
12:45 The 80% logic is related to the current in the form of C-rate for the cell capacity used in those vehicles and the parallel configuration, as well as the voltage of the individual cells at close to 80%. If Tesla/Rivian/and others are slowing down earlier, it is to protect against voltage overpotential of the cells, temperature gradient, and maximum cell temperature. Ford is able to do better for the same charge percentage because they likely have a lot more energy buffer that is not accessible to the customer, a tradeoff from Ford to give a better charging experience versus more range. Typically a sharp drop comes in when cells are above 4.0xV, definitely 4.1V, there will be a huge drop at least in the case of NCx based cells
Rivian needs to make cars.
There’s a great deal to admire and respect Tesla/Musk for, including kick starting a transition to a more efficient future, but I struggled to see anything relevant about the CT; it looks like a bold statement that didn’t have to be made. I agree with the host, no one who needs a truck will find anything better about the CT compared with the Lightning. Tesla should have invested in getting the Compact car out to the masses, that is a sure-fire success right there.
I find having to wait for anything an inconvenience/annoyance depending on length and frequency involved.
Driving my MX5 (as a daily) fueling is a non issue as economy/range/efficiency equilibrium comes to play. Listening to this podcast, the idea of charging regime involved in EV ownership does my head in. How the hell will these mega heavy (huge battery) EV's help to save humanity from itself ?
It'll teach you the value of patience hahaha.
No, I imagine it's really not that big of a deal once you get used to it. I regularly sit in Costco parking lots for 15 minutes just waiting to even get to the pump - all for the privilege of saving 5-10 cents a gallon.
The actual real answer is: you don't have to wait. Plug it in at home overnight/at work. Never think about charging, except for 30 minutes a few times on the sporadic road trip you take.
I've never waited in my life for 15 min to get to a pump. Here in Australia it's not an issue.
I live in a unit/flat and like a substantial of motorist on this planet (city living), charging @ home is not an option.
Have a friend/neighbour with an EV, he has found himself "having to wait to get to the charging point" more times than he cares to mention. Than there is the waiting while it charges. Of course the charger itself has to be operational in the first place.
He is selling it now and going through the substantial value depreciation pain. The only lesson this teaches is the value of denial of the EV experience for anyone without @ home charging for daily usage. @@Cyrribrae
Electrifying the trailer!..Always thought a powered caravan with a 150kw battery with Caravan 2 Tow-Vehicle booster and caravan 2 X power-sockets....no doubt coming soon (hopefully)
Also excited about the Squaero-dynamic Hyundai/Kia products
The contempt for Tesla and Elon is overwhelming from these guys...
It's pathetic.
good content, could of done without the foul mouth vulgarity, love your videos Kyle, keep them coming
Lost me with the Rimac. Not sure why it’s relevant in trying to make a useful, vital conversation…
Watching Dune 2 in a Cybertruck must be amazing!
It's a time race. 🏁
From a business standpoint, quality consistency (e.g., having barely acceptable quality and sometimes marginally exceeding that low bar) can be more important than high quality. Similar to McDonald's vs a Michelin Star restaurant. Tesla would be McDonald's in this analogy. More people on more days just want a burger.
21:14 what you should do is follow what the car tells you to do. Not charge only to 30, or all the way to 80, every time. I get why you did it for the race, but for the drive home follow the Tesla instructions for a true understanding of what most people will do. Charging to 80 is silly (as you know) unless you absolutely have to.
Long live the Volt!
Who knows. It might come back.
40:34 Zack: Open Stargate! LOL!!
Still can't get why in the USA every Automaker can have their own charging plug layout. Especially knowing the charging stations are funded with Tax Payers money. The plugs layout should be a standard design as in Europe.
Charging stations aren't charged with taxpayer money. End consumers pay for the electricity used to charge their cars. There were a lot of federal subsidies to get charging stations up and running, but that paid (or subsidized) the up front capital cost, not their ongoing running expenses. Charging networks are all for-profit enterprises, none of them are owned by the public.
There is a separate discussion to be had about standardizing charging plugs and protocols, but that requires a functional government to regulate industry. One thing most European governments do better than US government is regulation. We're still operating with the Chicken Tax loopholes over here.
@@redlion145 There is plenty of funding using Tax Payers money to build charging station not to maintain them. That would explain all the rush to build new stations, than improving the kWh offer of the current ones in activity.
It’s because our government can’t keep up w/ technology. Combine that w/ the fact that the majority don’t want an EV and you have the current state. If people wanted them and were buying them in mass they would be complaining to their elected reps about interoperability issues.
Every major automaker will be switching to the Tesla/NACS/J3400 plug starting next year.
Matt Farah has turned into an Elon-hating grumpy whiny old man. Kyle Connor gets it...he is a true car enthusiast!
In my opinion EVs are still to bleeding edge. The charging network is only part of the reason why, another part has to do with what we saw last month where it got so cold in the north east and people couldnt charge the cars and the last has to do with out of warranty battery replacement.
I hate to break it to everyone, but Rivian is structurally bankrupt. What does that mean? That means that the more trucks they make the more money they lose, no matter how much they ramp. Why? They over designed the truck so that auto reviewers would slobber all over it. FYI, it is BAD engineering to design something that can’t be profitable.
I wanna see an ev9 video
Presumably a powered trailer would readily negate weight/towing weight?
Ok you are an EV owner so you must know a little bit about EV’s. You were afraid to drive your Mach E from LA to Vegas. Knowing there are 20+ EA chargers in Baker and you were still worried? Come on……
Can’t fathom why Tesla hasn’t been ferociously implementing actual version four supercharger, posts, and cabinets and all of the hardware in between faster, ahead of the cyber truck rollout. If that thing is capable of charging much more quickly, then why the heck would they release it in a state where it can charge inferiorly That doesn’t make as much sense as it could. Now they’re going to end up getting all of this negative press about it not charging very quickly and that will be its legacy that it will have to break through so 10 years from now people will still think that cyber trucks charge terribly slowly. keeps shooting themselves in the foot. In fact, I’m not sure they have any feet left to shoot because they’ve done so much blowing off their own feet with shotgun shells.🙄🙄🙄🤦♂️
Been following Kyle for a little while now. Matt, I wonder how that 1M mile LS400 is faring now. (I own a 200,000 mile SC400, which I drive when I"m not driving my Ford Mach-e.)
Tavarish has it down in FL; Matt sold it to him for $1 when it hit 1mm miles. AFAIK he hasn't done anything with it.
@@deathcab4booty ahh, thank you. i seem to remember Tavarish having it. May need to get an LS400 (or 430) someday.
@@deathcab4booty I remember seeing teh 1M mile LS on one of Tavarish's videos. I Still want to get an LS430. Love the 1UZ and 3UZ engines. I needed to buy a new car in late 2022 and almost bought one. But as a commuter car, it is horrible in Los Angeles. I'm happy with my Ford Mach-e.
Manual seats are great for height difference
So on Kyle’s eqs 580 review for Inside EV he was in love with it and now he hates it?
Matt my birthday and yours are 3 days apart