Exactly! I really want him to take a look at the anti titan weapons like the sidewinder or especially titan weapons like the xo-16 since the animations are so cool
@@patstefanick9928 I wish he would have looked at the R301 and Longbow, i wonder if the slanted mag wells would function irl. Also wish he would have seen the secret G7 M1 Garand easter egg reload
For the Rampage, Consider that the thermite is increasing the pressure of the back pressure and increasing the cycling rate, in the video it seems they did not show you the non-Rev vs Revved versions of the fire rate. Increased heat/pressure, quicker gas action, more RPM
Realistically the Rampage could have been designed with a higher ROF if desired, but one thing many people forget is that the APEX games are in essence a bloodsport style gameshow presumably watched throughout all humanity controlled space, many of the guns are designed to be gimmicky (namely the rampage, bocek, 30-30 and the nerfed anti titan weapons) as they are used for entertainment purposes and are not 100% intended to be optimal infantry weapons.
@@chunkymonky4433 You also have to remember that the Rampage was designed by Rampart herself, so it being such a bombastic and wacky weapon makes sense just for that...
Fun little thing; the Triple Take used to be known as the Double Take in Titanfall 2 with two bullets, but long range engagements had the problem of a perfectly aimed headshot resulting in two bullets whizzing by on either side of the pilots' ears, so they added an unanimated third bullet in beta-testing, then turned it into the triple take in Apex Legends :P
@@Anonymys43 So...you really never played it for real. Most (all?) dedicated pilots know not only the lore but the Devs decisions. But it's understandable that casuals do not care or know the lore of Titanfall, Halo or Destiny, for sure.
The Kraber is an AMR, designed to be used against Titans and armoured vehicles, in Titanfall 2 the description of it says something along the lines of 'will obliterate any roughly human-sized target in one shot'
One thing to note with some of the heavier weapon designs like the Spitfire and Kraber, is that they were designed for Titanfall where the pilots are in-universe super soldiers who are able to run around hip firing these things where normal people would absolutely not be able to.
I actually vaugely remember that the Kraber is a modified Armour-Peircing / Anti-Material rifle that has gone out of its way to use exotic materials (among other things) to cut down the weight as much as possible for use by super-agile pilot supersoldiers. Like the Kraber is absolutely full of cutouts and empty space, presumably to save on weight. It's popular theory that pilots get nanomachines injected and genetic enhancement so they can take much more abuse and bear greater loads. Still. The Kraber is as long as you are tall. And this on in Apex is the 3rd iteration by now, Titanfall 1 guns looked far more closer to their traditional counterparts.
Surprised that Jonathan didn't catch the "Mozambique Drill" reference to the gun - two to the chest, one to the head. Also Mozambique is probably somewhat based on the Metal Storm weapon concept.
Oh I caught the reference in the name, in fact I think I did mention that. I talk for 1-2hrs and they have to edit me down to 20mins :) However, full disclosure - I somehow didn't link the 2+1 shots to the actual drill - doh!
@@jonathanferguson1211 in addition to there being three barrels, they're also placed in a triangular arrangement, as if you could get two to the chest and one to the head by rapidly pulling the trigger without adjusting the position.
I think it was a bit of a missed opportunity not to show the R-301 and Longbow alongside the R-99, if only briefly. I think he would have appreciate a sci-fi universe going with a fairly grounded concept of using different configuration kits of the same basic design, like people do with all kinds of takes on the AR-15 IRL.
also kinda missed the C.A.R and the Bocek with shatter caps, wouldve been really itneresting to know an opinion on the "hop up" tech that changes things about the gun, like boosted loader with the hemlok or kinetic feeder on the PK. Im also genuinely surprised they left out the 30-30 since it is one of the most "vintage" guns in the roster. Also, also, i wouldve been intrigued to hear the opinon on the Devo, cause it goes from pop pop to BRRRRRRRR
You know, I think he'd actually did see it. He must have not fought the r-301 or Longbow were really worth noting, but then he saw the r99 and he realized that they were the same platform and then commented on it.
I like Respawn's approach to weapon design. They have a nice balance between making their guns look interesting and fun but they still appear functional.
Funny thing about the wingman, it can take an extended "magazine" attachment, which I've always seen as strange given it's apparent resemblance to a revolver.
@@georgebill9112 I mean the guns in functionality are generally somewhat grounded in reality so it's not too outlandish to expect the wingman to not have a mag
I hope we get the chance to analyze Titanfall weapons, given that Apex is more of an artistic evolution of more grounded designs from the previous games.
@@jonathanferguson1211 It would be great to see an analysis of the Titan Weapons from the TF games, with their intersection of firearm and artillery, and it's always very interesting seeing different approaches to designing weapons for non-human users.
Fun fact: This is Jonathan Ferguson, the Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK, which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history.
Hey Johnathan! The family resemblance you mentioned in the video is true in more ways than one: the R-99 smg you compared to the hemlok is actually part of the R series, which contains a DMR, the SMG, and three assault rifles designated R-#01. Only one of the assault rifles appears in Apex, but it’s a cool detail on Respawn’s part to have a family of guns similar to all the AR-15 derivatives.
To add on to that, the Hemlok also has it's own family consisting of the Hemlok assault rifle, Volt SMG, and the Devotion LMG. I'm not sure if the last two are actually in Apex, but all 3 appear in Titanfall 2.
An interesting note about the R99 is that (if I remember correctly) its chambered in 5.8 DAP which is the Chinese intermediate cartridge that the QBZ 95 and QBZ 191 are chambered in. So the in game smg is chambered in a real life assault rifle round. Someone can fact check me on that though, I may be wrong.
@@GrumpyMann According to the wiki, the R-97/99 does in fact fire 5.8, but intermediate caliber standards are apparently in the 8mm range by the time TF|2/Apex takes place, so it's an SMG by future standards. The fact that it fires 5.8 is quite interesting, as it implies China is or was incredibly influential (more so than today) at some point in the Titanfall timeline.
I was glad to hear you pick up on the "family tree" of the arms in the Titanfall universe; I noticed it while playing Titanfall 2. The two standard assault rifles (the R101s), the DMR, and the R-97 sub gun all appear to have similar lineage of design with similarly canted mags and other design commonalities, which I found really interesting that the devs factored in. I know that for the original Titanfall, they tried to lend an aspect of realism to the mechs in the game by modeling some of their components off of existing heavy equipment and tank parts like the driver's hatch of the M1 Abrams, so it's cool to see that continue in TF|2 and Apex
They should show him the C.A.R which somehow has variable ammo types (and can fit an extended heavy mag but use light ammo), and the extended heavy magazine on the wingman.
That was awesome. Would love to see him react to more of the Apex Legends and Titanfall guns. Titanfall 2 has even more wacky ones. In the future if you do more of this you could show him how the Longbow, R99 and R-301 are all made of the same model with a different configuration.
@@rawrdino7046 they are the same platform. It's the same way as the 15 and the 10 are both ArmaLite, and they're the same platform, but they're different and they serve different purposes.
There's quite a few rare reload animations, including one for the G7 where you put the magazine through the top of the gun, and when you're using an ability which requires a hand you chamber the Peacekeeper with the Arnie twirl.
From what i understand from early datamines, the rampage lmg was supposed to be able to give it's bullets the incendiary effect with a thermite. But then they removed it in favor for increased fire rate.
I personally would have had him look at titanfall (2) weapons. Also, they should have showed him the weapons in the arsenal. I wish he could have given us his opinion on the flatlines original recoil pattern and the alternator as a whole. The one gun I think they did better on in apex is the triple take (in TF|2 it also shoots 3 rounds, but doesn'tsay it), and it's nice he got to see that. Overall, happy we got this much, but would love to see it revisited.
In TF2 it's called the double take because it shoots two shots parallel not three (only two bullet trails and if you go for headshots you can actually miss both shots left and right of the head...) and they should have shown him the three versions of the carbine (101, 201, 301),would be interesting if he thinks that the evolution of the weapon is realistic... Also the devotion, volt and especially L-Star(TF2 version) wich are obviously energy based and have their own little gimmicks, and the sidewinder... I mean it's a rocket launcher LMG hybrid, and the anti titan weapons would be nice to have word on (and maybe even the weaponry of the titans themselves?)
Same, I think they should have gone with TF|2 instead. The flatline was always one of my favorite guns and I'm happy its in Apex but at the same time I'm disappointed it drifts so far from the original rifles recoil pattern.
I know Jonathan lurks the early comments. And I wanted to let him know his show makes my Saturdays. Thank you and going to donate to the Royal Armouries Museum.
Only Jonothan can turn Apex weapons into an educational piece that hundreds of thousands of peeps will watch from start to finish. Thank you Jonothan and Happy New Year good sir!
So for the Energy ammo weapons, if im remembering my lore right most are just pretty much electromagnetic propelled flechettes/bullets and the charge up for the Peacekeeper/Triple take act as chokes. And while not seen here the R-99 and Hemlock have families of guns made by the same companies that share basically the same designs but more specialized the R-99 PDW has the C.A.R PDW, the R-301 assault rifle (there are previous iteration in past games, R-101 and R-201) and and D-101 "Longbow" DMR, and the Hemlock has the Devotion and Volt energy weapons made by the same company
I could see the bottom part of the wingman being attached to whatever mechanism holds the cylinder in the gun, so that would make sense as how you actually operate that mechanism, but not spring loaded or however it works in game.
@@RandomPerson0646 To be honest, not really other than in general proportions. There's no hint of Thompons or SPAS 12, and no overarching 'shroud' or large carry handle cue. It looks a bit like the version from Fireteam Elite in terms of the large magwell, but that came after Apex Legends of course.
i wish he reacted to the charged sentinel, havoc rifle, car smg, and the other weapons that are very far from reality and lets see how he would ground it back to reality
When Johnathan compares the hemlock to the r97 it’s some what right but the r 101, the longbow and the r97 where essentially the same weapon system which only requires simple adjustments to change the weapons
@@error262 eh potato potato, they’re all mostly identical, especially between the R101 and R201, all I could notice are small and unimportant differences
@@titan1umtitan I do kinda like how the games do that and there are in game varients and different guns in the same series kinda like irl how you have different AKs or ARs. I also enjoy that by changing the name and subtle qualities to them the guns kinda feel like newer versions of them since the R101 originates in the first titanfall, then you have the R201 showing up in Titanfall 2 and finally the R301 in Apex and the G2 becomes the G7, or the R97 turns into the R99
@@empdisaster10 Yes, I absolutely love that it goes so far as to use guns to effectively build a world and establish and reinforce a connective timeline between the games. For instance, the changes in Titan cores implies that over the course of the war, Titan’s became manufactured for specific jobs rather than being an average frame that fits multiple jobs. I can imagine a Titan only warfront that consists of a vanguard of Ronins for Titan combat, a Middle Guard of Legions, and a Rear Guard of Northstars, with a possibility of a separate, anti air unit consisting of Tones, and an infantry extermination unit consisting of Scorches, and a close quarters recon unit consisting of Monarchs, which would have made Expedition units obsolete in favor of Monarch’s adaptability
Looking at him react to Apex's guns really makes me wanna see what he would think of Destiny 2's exotic weapons. Amazing and entertaining video as always, keep it up :D
Nice catch from Jonathan with the mozambique, the clip has 3 holes on it because the gun originally only held 3 shots until they buffed it. I guess they never changed the model
In the Titanfall games it looked basically the same but fired even more shots, so the design is intentional with this one. Although, the description in TF|2 does call it a spread-shot marksman pistol (I think), so maybe the Apex Mozambique is very separate from the other versions.
Or maybe because it is some kind of a battery. In the Titanfall wiki, Mozambique is called as an energy shotgun pistol, it just doesn't shoot blue like other energy weapons. If it is indeed an energy weapon like the wiki says, then the magazine being a battery makes sense. If not, then I don't know.
The name is even a reference to the fact that it has 3 rounds. The "Mozambique drill" is shooting an assaillant twice in the chest and once in the head. (The buff to give it more rounds made the name a bit weird.)
Love love LOVE the series. You guys should get Jonathan to look at some guns from Deep Rock Galactic (my favourite co-op shooter). There's some wacky stuff in there, like a smart rifle and hand-held salvo rocket launcher. But there's also an M1 Garand-alike, complete with p'ting noise! It's a good time
I try to look at specific design cues rather than just silhouette, as there are always multiple possible inspirations for the latter e.g. CZ Bren 2, B&T AP556, ACR etc. Then again devs will be working from both, so more views are valid than just mine :)
yall should johnathan look at the guns in Fistful of Frags, its a smaller and less known game but there are many guns I havent seen in any other game that are pretty well modeled in my opinion
I can see using a revolver-type design if want a pistol and your cartridge is too large to fit into a handle. Or maybe if the cylinder itself contains the propellant or other propulsion mechanism, and is manufactured as disposable?
18:46 "You'd better be getting some kind of enhanced power that a self-reloading pistol couldn't handle" Most other weapons that use the same ammo deal only 11 to 19 damage per bullet. The wingman deals 45.
Ooh finally some weapons with little real world inspiration! I would love to see borderlands 2 weapons and Jonathan react to the massive impossibilities in that game.
as for the wingman, it used to have up to 12 magazine and also its ammo had a multiplier for headshots meaning they kinda thought of what you said in the vid, but then again, it was too OP and they nerfed it
I was just looking for this video when I discorveres this series yesterday. I would love to see this and Titanfall 2 revisited with the information about how some weapons are made by the same companies or are based off each other. I'd really love to see what you think about the progression from R101 to R201 to R301, as well as the Havoc and Alternator weapons.
I would love to see him react to some of Warframe's weapons, especially the more conventional looking ones like the Braton, Burston, Latron, Lex, Lato, Redeemer and things like that.
I'd also love to see him take a look at Warframe's conventional weapons, but I'd have to admit that I'm also curious about his thoughts on the unconventional as well. Maybe after he's done with the ones you suggested he could take a look at stuff like the Arca Plasmor, Boltor, Phage, Sybaris, and Zenith.
when the expert talks about specific parts of the gun, in game or otherwise, it would be awesome if the item in question could be highlighted or circled as some of us may not know what the expert is referring to without it being pointed out. Great video, great expert, thank you!
Revolvers are just the katanas of guns. They're usually immensely powerful in games They're heavily romanticized in media They rely on simple mechanics They're only really popular due to how they're depicted in media
They're both a hold-over from an earlier age where handmade craftsmanship was more common. Though for revolvers their design does still allow for more powerful cartridges than most autoloaders (.44 mag, .454 casull, .500 mag, etc...) which gives them some niche applications even in modern day.
@@bradhaines3142 I avoided that one because inevitably someone will want to argue about .357sig being "similar enough". (Of course there ARE also some rare and impractical. 357mag and .44mag autoloading pistols in existence (Coonan, Desert Eagle, Wildey/Automag) but they tend to be massive, expensive, impractical, and usually have questionable reliability, especially when compared to a revolver using the same round)
An additional note about the guns that I like: All applicable weapons have a bit of an extended reload animation when emptying the magazine versus reloading a partial magazine. For the Peacekeeper shotgun, I believe there's a magnetic type of choke system that charges up to tighten the spread, and the lever-action is a charging mechanism I think, giving the system a small charge to fire the shot. Only issue with that thought is the shells that enter the weapon are actually batteries, and not exactly sure what the projectiles are, though speculation can be made. perhaps another can help fill in? Hard to find answers online myself.
If you want to talk about family resemblance and the r99. The r series of rifles which also includes the r301 and the Longbow which are two weapons that I'm sad that you didn't cover are all effectively the same weapons platform with interchangeable components that all use the same ammunition.
Planetside 2 has a nice selection of weapons. Ranging from rather conventional through peculiar split cylinder revolvers, oversized shotguns and high tech crossbows to railguns and micro-rocket launchers and pew pew lasers.
One of the reasons i enjoy the designs of titanfall is because a lot of it is more grounded. The guns that originate from titanfall all look like realistic steps from modern guns and have realistic properties to them. I never actually noticed the Flatline having nature from the AK series but now that he mentioned it i can. I also appreciate that in lore a lot of the guns are siblings to each other from a select group of gun manufactures like Hammond, Vinson, Lastimosta, and so on, each giving seperate feels and weapons desgins and types, kinda like borderlands. I also enjoy that with each installment in the series they sort of evolve the guns as well. Some stay the same but others are different in the series such as the Double Take in Titanfall becoming the Triple Take, or the R101, R201, and the R301 all being varients of the same gun with the R99 being the Smg varient of the rifles. Its a very unique take on scifi weapons and it makes the world feel more full since theres subtle world building with the weapons. They dont feel alien but they arent exactly the same and i love it
16:28 for reference the gun initially has 3 shots when the game released but at some point over the last year it was changed to 6 for balancing purposes. Obviously the animations stayed the same.
The Mozambique is one of the weapons that came from Titanfall 2, and it could hold 6-8 rounds. It fires out of all 3 barrels simultaneously, to give it a controlled spread.
shouldve show the smg 99 something ( I stopped playing for quite long time) skin. it looks super similar to kirss vector. And the thermite gun thingy does more damage to shields when you charge it if I remember correctly.
To explain the Mozambique having 3 shells despite firing more than 3 it’s just a factor of the gun was updated to fire more for balance but originally fired 3(also did in titanfall 2)
The propellant and case (still has a regular bullet) in titanfall lore and should be the same for apex. Is they’re all batteries which should also mean the guns are rail guns not traditional rifles. There is exceptions for certain weapons like energy weapons; they use energy ammo which would imply just a big battery
there's a wattson voiceline when you ping an extended energy magazine attachment where she says "Like a capacitor, I get that", so yeah it's probably like a battery
In the Rampage lmg when we inspect we can see a empty barrel. Bullet comes from right goes to left but when we stuck a thermite in it, bullets go through the thermite and heat up. This increases the damage and rate of fire. I can understand damage but rate of fire is a little bit sus
i was sitting here thinking you were going to review guns that didn’t exist lol. but i get it, you explain what type of firearms these video game guns are based on.
@Jonathan Ferguson thank you, Jonathan, for providing excellent content and analysis as usual! Will you guys cover all the rest of the weapons on part 2? Also, the R99, in my opinion, looks like a distant descendant of the love child from a Vector and UMP.
@@tardigrade2244 Quite possible that they referenced those two designs, yes. Ironically it comes off as a less unusual take on the Vector. As for part 2, I'm not sure what Dave has planned but suspect there will be.
I'd love to see his take on some of the more bizarre weapons in Black Ops 3 and Black Ops 4. They got some pretty whacky stuff, mainly as DLC but it may not be so easy to get footage
What's interesting to note about the flat line that he didn't get to see, is that the reason why it's set up that way is because it has an electronic compensator on it that is meant to cancel out vertical kick. It wasn't used in Apex Legends, but it works and Titanfall 2, and what that does is it makes it where it has no vertical kick whatsoever. This is why it's called the flat line, because the recoil is a flatline.
I like how unlike most experts on shows of this nature he doesn't just bash things that are clearly unrealistic he just explains whats off about it and then says "It looks really cool though"
The VK47 is a Reference to the 2013 Movie ''Elysium'' where a AK47 was fitted with Future tech to shoot Airburst-Explosive Bullets. The Future Furniture on the VK looks identical to the one from the movie, but to make it not so obvious the made the AK bullpup!
I can buy that it's a reference of sorts, but I don't see much of a resemblance. The Elysium AK (which I always liked the idea of) has its upgrade package (electronic fusing/electro-optical sighting) as a unitary assembly attached to the gas block of an otherwise unmodified AKM. The furniture is unchanged. The VK47 is a total redesign across the board with completely different receiver architecture and componentry i.e. is not a future upgrade of an AK. It may be, in the minds of the devs, but it doesn't work as one conceptually/design-wise.
for the energy based weapons like the 3 barreled rifle the triple take the magazine is basically a big battery. the lever action shotgun is also an energy based weapon.
Kinda wish they allowed Jonathan to view the weapon model and rotate it, instead of just showing it used in-round/shooting range with the player model. Sidenote, i like the Filipino aethetic armory emblem which is the Latimosa armory. It was that way because the modeller is a Filipino
I have only played TF|2 but Isn't Lastimosa the guy who dies and gives Cooper BT ? Is the armory just named after him or does his character come from a family of Gunsmiths ? I really want to go back and play TF2 now.
I Would love for him to react to weapons from Warframe, if he’s brave enough to attempt that game with how many wack weapons there are in each slot and what they do. There are a bunch that actually look and work like realistic weapons though, and they have a great customization menu so he can see the weapons really well.
@@ineedscissors6176 if you like more realistic shooters and have some interest in ww1 i think you would enjoy it. but since i play it on pc im not sure how well that the mechanics would translate to controller.
I was really hoping that he would cover the sentry. That gun has the fun quirk of not having a feasable way for the ammunition to travel from the magazine to the chamber.
I think my favorite videos in this series are of Sci-Fi or other fictional guns, but if we ever get back to games that claim to be historically accurate, I'd love to see a video on Post Scriptum. I'm no firearms expert but the sound and feel of the weapons in that game always stuck out to me as great, though I understand looking at the same "core" batch of WW2 era weapons repeatedly isn't as exciting!
I really would like to see Jonathan taking another look at EFT, with a focus on all of the different types of malfunctions and clearing procedures there are now (and maybe a look at the two new guns, the HK G28 and FN SCAR)
The Kraber to me seems directly inspired by the NTW-20; 3 round box +1 chamber, sideloading magazine, anti-material caliber, but also the ring at the front meant for dismantling and separately carrying the barrel.
The only think I'd like to point out is that, I've only seen a few people talk about how the Flatline is a collapsible weapon, an animation could be seen 'unfolding' (I don't know how to describe it tbh) the gun when you pick it up.
I hope he takes a look at other weapons from the titanfall universe, like the titan weapons and the weapons in the 2 titanfall games that arent in apex. I also love that he noticed the ammunition bar on the sights.
what's cool about the Mozambique is that it's meant to be a nod to the Mozambique Drill where you shoot twice in the upper body of a target and once in the name hence the shape of the bullet mag and spread
That en-bloc pistol is reminiscent of the hailstorm system. Multiple caseless rounds are stacked up in a line and the propellant is set off for each projectile in series through electronic ignition.
I already had a letter drafted for Jonathan to make this video myself if they didn't get to the Titanfall Universe soon. Today is a really good day.
yeah some good stuff i also hope they get to some of the titanfall guns that aren't in apex, or see him react to the cool movement or the campaign
Yoo! I’ve been a fan of yours since 2016!!
Exactly! I really want him to take a look at the anti titan weapons like the sidewinder or especially titan weapons like the xo-16 since the animations are so cool
@@patstefanick9928 It would also be nice to finally give him some more artillery to look at, he's not just a firearm specialist after all.
@@patstefanick9928 I wish he would have looked at the R301 and Longbow, i wonder if the slanted mag wells would function irl. Also wish he would have seen the secret G7 M1 Garand easter egg reload
For the Rampage, Consider that the thermite is increasing the pressure of the back pressure and increasing the cycling rate, in the video it seems they did not show you the non-Rev vs Revved versions of the fire rate. Increased heat/pressure, quicker gas action, more RPM
Realistically the Rampage could have been designed with a higher ROF if desired, but one thing many people forget is that the APEX games are in essence a bloodsport style gameshow presumably watched throughout all humanity controlled space, many of the guns are designed to be gimmicky (namely the rampage, bocek, 30-30 and the nerfed anti titan weapons) as they are used for entertainment purposes and are not 100% intended to be optimal infantry weapons.
@@chunkymonky4433 Now that actually makes more sense...
@@chunkymonky4433 You also have to remember that the Rampage was designed by Rampart herself, so it being such a bombastic and wacky weapon makes sense just for that...
@@chunkymonky4433 this. It basically explains why you have military grade weapons like the charge rifle that annihilate titans 3 shotting legends.
@@chunkymonky4433 No they do use it in real life as the Titanfall is the outside version of Apex legends. In Titanfall people use all of these weapons
Nice. I want to see more interpretations of “realistic-ish” made up weapons. I still put my vote on the Killzone series.
What annoyed me this whole time is that most of these weapons are from Titanfall, but like every other youtube video, they just say it’s from Apex.
@@jacobinator4981 maybe cuz they're featuring the guns, specifically how they're shown in Apex, and not how they're shown in Titanfall.
2nd this!!!
@@jacobinator4981 TF2 needs its own entry tbh
@@blueboy1958 the designs are I’m pretty sure exactly the same other than the name so it’s still not different
Fun little thing; the Triple Take used to be known as the Double Take in Titanfall 2 with two bullets, but long range engagements had the problem of a perfectly aimed headshot resulting in two bullets whizzing by on either side of the pilots' ears, so they added an unanimated third bullet in beta-testing, then turned it into the triple take in Apex Legends :P
Fun little thing? Yeah, I think you mean fun fact ;)
@@iamthebrownie5989 Not me
@@iamthebrownie5989 ok omniscient lord brownie, thanks for speaking for the entire universe
@@iamthebrownie5989 I have but never got into the lore
@@Anonymys43
So...you really never played it for real.
Most (all?) dedicated pilots know not only the lore but the Devs decisions.
But it's understandable that casuals do not care or know the lore of Titanfall, Halo or Destiny, for sure.
The Kraber is an AMR, designed to be used against Titans and armoured vehicles, in Titanfall 2 the description of it says something along the lines of 'will obliterate any roughly human-sized target in one shot'
They specifically turn into red mist.
Fun fact, the Kraber in TF|2 is chambered in .57 Cal. While the Kraber in Apex Legends is only chambered in .50 Cal.
Anything that would be considered an Anti-Material Rifle is going to evaporate a living target.
Shooting that at a human target is a war crime. So if anyone asks, just say you were aiming at something else.
@@emPtysp4ce sir I was aiming for the strap of the helmet
One thing to note with some of the heavier weapon designs like the Spitfire and Kraber, is that they were designed for Titanfall where the pilots are in-universe super soldiers who are able to run around hip firing these things where normal people would absolutely not be able to.
The Kraber is also based off the NTW-20 Anti Material Rifle
They are not super soldiers... well some are.
They are only well trained in the sacred art of: "keep moving"
@@tec2138 and they have strong armor which probably has some sort of exoskeleton in it
I actually vaugely remember that the Kraber is a modified Armour-Peircing / Anti-Material rifle
that has gone out of its way to use exotic materials (among other things) to cut down the weight as much as
possible for use by super-agile pilot supersoldiers.
Like the Kraber is absolutely full of cutouts and empty space, presumably to save on weight.
It's popular theory that pilots get nanomachines injected and genetic enhancement so they can take much more abuse
and bear greater loads.
Still. The Kraber is as long as you are tall.
And this on in Apex is the 3rd iteration by now, Titanfall 1 guns looked far more closer to their
traditional counterparts.
@@diondegraaff9400 The Holopilots definitely have exoskeletons.
Surprised that Jonathan didn't catch the "Mozambique Drill" reference to the gun - two to the chest, one to the head. Also Mozambique is probably somewhat based on the Metal Storm weapon concept.
Oh I caught the reference in the name, in fact I think I did mention that. I talk for 1-2hrs and they have to edit me down to 20mins :) However, full disclosure - I somehow didn't link the 2+1 shots to the actual drill - doh!
@@jonathanferguson1211 Man I wish that we could get some kind of access to the long form content that aren't cut down
@@jonathanferguson1211 These videos should be 40mins long minimum then lol i love them so much
@@jonathanferguson1211 I'm gonna need these full 1-2 hour videos, sir.
@@jonathanferguson1211 in addition to there being three barrels, they're also placed in a triangular arrangement, as if you could get two to the chest and one to the head by rapidly pulling the trigger without adjusting the position.
I think it was a bit of a missed opportunity not to show the R-301 and Longbow alongside the R-99, if only briefly. I think he would have appreciate a sci-fi universe going with a fairly grounded concept of using different configuration kits of the same basic design, like people do with all kinds of takes on the AR-15 IRL.
also kinda missed the C.A.R and the Bocek with shatter caps, wouldve been really itneresting to know an opinion on the "hop up" tech that changes things about the gun, like boosted loader with the hemlok or kinetic feeder on the PK. Im also genuinely surprised they left out the 30-30 since it is one of the most "vintage" guns in the roster. Also, also, i wouldve been intrigued to hear the opinon on the Devo, cause it goes from pop pop to BRRRRRRRR
You know, I think he'd actually did see it. He must have not fought the r-301 or Longbow were really worth noting, but then he saw the r99 and he realized that they were the same platform and then commented on it.
I like Respawn's approach to weapon design. They have a nice balance between making their guns look interesting and fun but they still appear functional.
And then you have the thermite rampage....
@@shizzywizzy6169 don’t forget the charged up sentinel, or the pk
Yeah but when they nerf or buff them they don't always change the design or animations to match
@@blakestuart5036 you dont want to go down the road of how a syringe/medipac heals robots
@@marcusphoenix594 oh no what’ve I done
Funny thing about the wingman, it can take an extended "magazine" attachment, which I've always seen as strange given it's apparent resemblance to a revolver.
I've always thought that was weird too. My first time playing the game I laughed a good deal when I figured this out.
it’s apex legends, what part of that game is relatively realistic? none of it so why would you expect the guns to be realistic🤨🤨
@@georgebill9112 I mean the guns in functionality are generally somewhat grounded in reality so it's not too outlandish to expect the wingman to not have a mag
I hope we get the chance to analyze Titanfall weapons, given that Apex is more of an artistic evolution of more grounded designs from the previous games.
I didn't realise that they were set in the same universe until halfway through filming, despite having played a fair bit of TF1 and 2.
@@jonathanferguson1211 It would be great to see an analysis of the Titan Weapons from the TF games, with their intersection of firearm and artillery, and it's always very interesting seeing different approaches to designing weapons for non-human users.
@@jonathanferguson1211 *halfway through recording* "Hey wait I remember the Hemlock"
@@jonathanferguson1211 ever play borderlands? im curious what youd think of the game entirely about wild guns
@@bradhaines3142 I have put a few hours in - the respawning enemy camps sapped my soul but the co-op feature is nice and the guns are pretty unique.
Fun fact: This is Jonathan Ferguson, the Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK, which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history.
Hey Johnathan! The family resemblance you mentioned in the video is true in more ways than one: the R-99 smg you compared to the hemlok is actually part of the R series, which contains a DMR, the SMG, and three assault rifles designated R-#01. Only one of the assault rifles appears in Apex, but it’s a cool detail on Respawn’s part to have a family of guns similar to all the AR-15 derivatives.
To add on to that, the Hemlok also has it's own family consisting of the Hemlok assault rifle, Volt SMG, and the Devotion LMG. I'm not sure if the last two are actually in Apex, but all 3 appear in Titanfall 2.
@@jjtomecek1623 both appear in Apex yes
An interesting note about the R99 is that (if I remember correctly) its chambered in 5.8 DAP which is the Chinese intermediate cartridge that the QBZ 95 and QBZ 191 are chambered in. So the in game smg is chambered in a real life assault rifle round. Someone can fact check me on that though, I may be wrong.
@@GrumpyMann According to the wiki, the R-97/99 does in fact fire 5.8, but intermediate caliber standards are apparently in the 8mm range by the time TF|2/Apex takes place, so it's an SMG by future standards. The fact that it fires 5.8 is quite interesting, as it implies China is or was incredibly influential (more so than today) at some point in the Titanfall timeline.
@@GrumpyMann just checked with a lore nut the R-99 cartridge is 5.8×42mm so yeah Chinese round
I was glad to hear you pick up on the "family tree" of the arms in the Titanfall universe; I noticed it while playing Titanfall 2.
The two standard assault rifles (the R101s), the DMR, and the R-97 sub gun all appear to have similar lineage of design with similarly canted mags and other design commonalities, which I found really interesting that the devs factored in. I know that for the original Titanfall, they tried to lend an aspect of realism to the mechs in the game by modeling some of their components off of existing heavy equipment and tank parts like the driver's hatch of the M1 Abrams, so it's cool to see that continue in TF|2 and Apex
C.A.R. is also part of the same family
The original concept designs for the Titans were made from kitbashed models
Unrelated but I never played titanfall 1 or 2 and seeing apex’s direct name callbacks is kinda fun
It's funny you mention that, because they are the same weapons. The Longbow and the 99 are the DMR and PDW variants of the r-301.
They should show him the C.A.R which somehow has variable ammo types (and can fit an extended heavy mag but use light ammo), and the extended heavy magazine on the wingman.
Yeah the C.A.R ammo thing stood out to me immediately lol. That's one place they really just gave up on logic for game mechanics.
Imagine jhonathans face when he sees the L-Star or Charge Rifle.
I mean, if they simply had made an animation where the player changes the whole upper upon changing ammo type, it would've made some sense.
@@sewagridmnds627 exactly so
I mean an AR can run 5.56 and .223 so it’s not too far removed from reality?
That was awesome. Would love to see him react to more of the Apex Legends and Titanfall guns.
Titanfall 2 has even more wacky ones.
In the future if you do more of this you could show him how the Longbow, R99 and R-301 are all made of the same model with a different configuration.
When I read wacky weapons I immediately though of the EPG-1, that gun was crazy
And the softball!
Wait they are all the same weapon? The longbow look so different
@@rawrdino7046
Look up "Titanfall 1 R-101", then "Titanfall 1 Longbow". You'll see the resemblance
@@rawrdino7046 they are the same platform. It's the same way as the 15 and the 10 are both ArmaLite, and they're the same platform, but they're different and they serve different purposes.
There's quite a few rare reload animations, including one for the G7 where you put the magazine through the top of the gun, and when you're using an ability which requires a hand you chamber the Peacekeeper with the Arnie twirl.
but but but Bangalore said that was impossible, clips are what cities put in their hair remember, bullets cant be loaded from the top
@@sonofagun1037 it's a clip-a-zine
From what i understand from early datamines, the rampage lmg was supposed to be able to give it's bullets the incendiary effect with a thermite. But then they removed it in favor for increased fire rate.
I personally would have had him look at titanfall (2) weapons.
Also, they should have showed him the weapons in the arsenal.
I wish he could have given us his opinion on the flatlines original recoil pattern and the alternator as a whole.
The one gun I think they did better on in apex is the triple take (in TF|2 it also shoots 3 rounds, but doesn'tsay it), and it's nice he got to see that.
Overall, happy we got this much, but would love to see it revisited.
In TF2 it's called the double take because it shoots two shots parallel not three (only two bullet trails and if you go for headshots you can actually miss both shots left and right of the head...) and they should have shown him the three versions of the carbine (101, 201, 301),would be interesting if he thinks that the evolution of the weapon is realistic...
Also the devotion, volt and especially L-Star(TF2 version) wich are obviously energy based and have their own little gimmicks, and the sidewinder... I mean it's a rocket launcher LMG hybrid, and the anti titan weapons would be nice to have word on (and maybe even the weaponry of the titans themselves?)
Same, I think they should have gone with TF|2 instead. The flatline was always one of my favorite guns and I'm happy its in Apex but at the same time I'm disappointed it drifts so far from the original rifles recoil pattern.
Tf2 not as popular so not as many views, even if it is a better game :(
Yeah
@@unkn0wngu4rd1an if I remember correctly, it actually has a middle bullet in TF|2.
The center one is just invisible.
Jonathan you are spot on with the AMR comparison on the Kraber, since this is used in the Titanfall universe as anti mech precision rifle.
I know Jonathan lurks the early comments. And I wanted to let him know his show makes my Saturdays. Thank you and going to donate to the Royal Armouries Museum.
Thank you on both counts :)
@@jonathanferguson1211 You're amazing!
@@jonathanferguson1211 lol
@@jonathanferguson1211 keep up the good work!
@@Manudyne In the spirit of Keanu Reeves, *you're* amazing; you're allamazing!
Only Jonothan can turn Apex weapons into an educational piece that hundreds of thousands of peeps will watch from start to finish. Thank you Jonothan and Happy New Year good sir!
So for the Energy ammo weapons, if im remembering my lore right most are just pretty much electromagnetic propelled flechettes/bullets and the charge up for the Peacekeeper/Triple take act as chokes. And while not seen here the R-99 and Hemlock have families of guns made by the same companies that share basically the same designs but more specialized the R-99 PDW has the C.A.R PDW, the R-301 assault rifle (there are previous iteration in past games, R-101 and R-201) and and D-101 "Longbow" DMR, and the Hemlock has the Devotion and Volt energy weapons made by the same company
Very interesting fact!
I believe the triple take at least is a mass driver/railgun type weapon as well
Hemlok is has the spitfire, not devo
@@scareraven9669 Can't really throw the devo out of that since it and the volt are clearly related
I could see the bottom part of the wingman being attached to whatever mechanism holds the cylinder in the gun, so that would make sense as how you actually operate that mechanism, but not spring loaded or however it works in game.
Should have mentioned the Mozambique's pattern is two to the body, one to the head. A physical representation of the Mozambique drill!
I did wonder about that but didn't spot the effect in the footage I saw.
@@jonathanferguson1211 Didn't the Hemlock also kind of remind you of the Aliens Pulse Rifle?
@@RandomPerson0646 To be honest, not really other than in general proportions. There's no hint of Thompons or SPAS 12, and no overarching 'shroud' or large carry handle cue. It looks a bit like the version from Fireteam Elite in terms of the large magwell, but that came after Apex Legends of course.
@@jonathanferguson1211 You wondered correct. It's a triangle pattern. If you get one headshot you get two body shots.
It would have been much more obvious if the Mozambique still had a 3 round ammo capacity like in the original Titanfall games
i wish he reacted to the charged sentinel, havoc rifle, car smg, and the other weapons that are very far from reality and lets see how he would ground it back to reality
When Johnathan compares the hemlock to the r97 it’s some what right but the r 101, the longbow and the r97 where essentially the same weapon system which only requires simple adjustments to change the weapons
Ah I see a Titanfall player here :D
It's R99 and R301 in Apex :P
Titanfall 2 had R97 and R201 afaik
@@error262 eh potato potato, they’re all mostly identical, especially between the R101 and R201, all I could notice are small and unimportant differences
@@titan1umtitan I do kinda like how the games do that and there are in game varients and different guns in the same series kinda like irl how you have different AKs or ARs. I also enjoy that by changing the name and subtle qualities to them the guns kinda feel like newer versions of them since the R101 originates in the first titanfall, then you have the R201 showing up in Titanfall 2 and finally the R301 in Apex and the G2 becomes the G7, or the R97 turns into the R99
@@empdisaster10 Yes, I absolutely love that it goes so far as to use guns to effectively build a world and establish and reinforce a connective timeline between the games. For instance, the changes in Titan cores implies that over the course of the war, Titan’s became manufactured for specific jobs rather than being an average frame that fits multiple jobs. I can imagine a Titan only warfront that consists of a vanguard of Ronins for Titan combat, a Middle Guard of Legions, and a Rear Guard of Northstars, with a possibility of a separate, anti air unit consisting of Tones, and an infantry extermination unit consisting of Scorches, and a close quarters recon unit consisting of Monarchs, which would have made Expedition units obsolete in favor of Monarch’s adaptability
Looking at him react to Apex's guns really makes me wanna see what he would think of Destiny 2's exotic weapons. Amazing and entertaining video as always, keep it up :D
Dave and Jonathan, thank you so much for this impeccable series, as well as Loadout too which I'm really enjoying.
The mozambique used to be a 3 shot gun, which explains the 3 shells. Respawn did not adjust the textures when they gave the gun more bullets
Nice catch from Jonathan with the mozambique, the clip has 3 holes on it because the gun originally only held 3 shots until they buffed it. I guess they never changed the model
In the Titanfall games it looked basically the same but fired even more shots, so the design is intentional with this one. Although, the description in TF|2 does call it a spread-shot marksman pistol (I think), so maybe the Apex Mozambique is very separate from the other versions.
Or maybe because it is some kind of a battery. In the Titanfall wiki, Mozambique is called as an energy shotgun pistol, it just doesn't shoot blue like other energy weapons. If it is indeed an energy weapon like the wiki says, then the magazine being a battery makes sense. If not, then I don't know.
@@smalljh04 It fired three shots in Titanfall.
The name is even a reference to the fact that it has 3 rounds. The "Mozambique drill" is shooting an assaillant twice in the chest and once in the head. (The buff to give it more rounds made the name a bit weird.)
@@ryleighs9575 The Mozambique has a 6 round magazine in Titanfall 2.
Love love LOVE the series. You guys should get Jonathan to look at some guns from Deep Rock Galactic (my favourite co-op shooter). There's some wacky stuff in there, like a smart rifle and hand-held salvo rocket launcher. But there's also an M1 Garand-alike, complete with p'ting noise! It's a good time
I always thought the Hemlock was a blend of SCAR and and HK G36c
I try to look at specific design cues rather than just silhouette, as there are always multiple possible inspirations for the latter e.g. CZ Bren 2, B&T AP556, ACR etc. Then again devs will be working from both, so more views are valid than just mine :)
yall should johnathan look at the guns in Fistful of Frags, its a smaller and less known game but there are many guns I havent seen in any other game that are pretty well modeled in my opinion
I can see using a revolver-type design if want a pistol and your cartridge is too large to fit into a handle. Or maybe if the cylinder itself contains the propellant or other propulsion mechanism, and is manufactured as disposable?
18:46 "You'd better be getting some kind of enhanced power that a self-reloading pistol couldn't handle"
Most other weapons that use the same ammo deal only 11 to 19 damage per bullet. The wingman deals 45.
To be fair, wayyyyy back in the day the Longbow used heavy as well.
Ooh finally some weapons with little real world inspiration! I would love to see borderlands 2 weapons and Jonathan react to the massive impossibilities in that game.
I def second him doing one of these for the borderland series in general
2022 seems more approachable now. The return of Johnathon is a welcome thing!
Wouldn't it be nice to see Jonathan covering the weapons from Gears of War series?
That would be so cool, I'd love that
Love the concept of this video. Something satisfying about seeing experts demonstrate their expertise on unorthodox topics
as for the wingman, it used to have up to 12 magazine and also its ammo had a multiplier for headshots meaning they kinda thought of what you said in the vid, but then again, it was too OP and they nerfed it
I was just looking for this video when I discorveres this series yesterday. I would love to see this and Titanfall 2 revisited with the information about how some weapons are made by the same companies or are based off each other. I'd really love to see what you think about the progression from R101 to R201 to R301, as well as the Havoc and Alternator weapons.
I would love to see him react to some of Warframe's weapons, especially the more conventional looking ones like the Braton, Burston, Latron, Lex, Lato, Redeemer and things like that.
I'd also love to see him take a look at Warframe's conventional weapons, but I'd have to admit that I'm also curious about his thoughts on the unconventional as well. Maybe after he's done with the ones you suggested he could take a look at stuff like the Arca Plasmor, Boltor, Phage, Sybaris, and Zenith.
Show him the Veltd and make him ponder how DE fit that many bullets in such a tiny magazine.
I still haven't found the answer, I need help.
@@Alpha.Phenix Look at the Latron, Prime's reload, it's literally just venting air.
@@DivingHawker Venting air is still more plausible then whatever the Veldt is doing.
when the expert talks about specific parts of the gun, in game or otherwise, it would be awesome if the item in question could be highlighted or circled as some of us may not know what the expert is referring to without it being pointed out.
Great video, great expert, thank you!
It would be PRIME if we could get a live stream of Jonathan playing something himself
in a perfect world jonathan would play and stream games regularly to watch
I was waiting for this! Thanks for finally making a video out of Apex Legends, my favourite team shooter battle royale type of thing.
I've been waiting for this for so long
"it really looks like someone was squinting at a picture of an FN Scar" top tier, i love it XD
Revolvers are just the katanas of guns.
They're usually immensely powerful in games
They're heavily romanticized in media
They rely on simple mechanics
They're only really popular due to how they're depicted in media
bullet go round make monke happy
and because of their history
They're both a hold-over from an earlier age where handmade craftsmanship was more common.
Though for revolvers their design does still allow for more powerful cartridges than most autoloaders (.44 mag, .454 casull, .500 mag, etc...) which gives them some niche applications even in modern day.
@@dark2023-1lovesoni .357 magnum is another one not common outside of rifles or revolvers
@@bradhaines3142 I avoided that one because inevitably someone will want to argue about .357sig being "similar enough".
(Of course there ARE also some rare and impractical. 357mag and .44mag autoloading pistols in existence (Coonan, Desert Eagle, Wildey/Automag) but they tend to be massive, expensive, impractical, and usually have questionable reliability, especially when compared to a revolver using the same round)
An additional note about the guns that I like: All applicable weapons have a bit of an extended reload animation when emptying the magazine versus reloading a partial magazine.
For the Peacekeeper shotgun, I believe there's a magnetic type of choke system that charges up to tighten the spread, and the lever-action is a charging mechanism I think, giving the system a small charge to fire the shot. Only issue with that thought is the shells that enter the weapon are actually batteries, and not exactly sure what the projectiles are, though speculation can be made.
perhaps another can help fill in? Hard to find answers online myself.
Would live to see Jonathan react to wolfenstein
If you want to talk about family resemblance and the r99. The r series of rifles which also includes the r301 and the Longbow which are two weapons that I'm sad that you didn't cover are all effectively the same weapons platform with interchangeable components that all use the same ammunition.
Planetside 2 has a nice selection of weapons. Ranging from rather conventional through peculiar split cylinder revolvers, oversized shotguns and high tech crossbows to railguns and micro-rocket launchers and pew pew lasers.
Do people still play Planetside 2 ? I loved the first game.
@@Gatorade69 Oh absolutely. Last I checked they were far along with a new continent.
@@Gatorade69 yes they have a mining system
One of the reasons i enjoy the designs of titanfall is because a lot of it is more grounded. The guns that originate from titanfall all look like realistic steps from modern guns and have realistic properties to them. I never actually noticed the Flatline having nature from the AK series but now that he mentioned it i can. I also appreciate that in lore a lot of the guns are siblings to each other from a select group of gun manufactures like Hammond, Vinson, Lastimosta, and so on, each giving seperate feels and weapons desgins and types, kinda like borderlands. I also enjoy that with each installment in the series they sort of evolve the guns as well. Some stay the same but others are different in the series such as the Double Take in Titanfall becoming the Triple Take, or the R101, R201, and the R301 all being varients of the same gun with the R99 being the Smg varient of the rifles. Its a very unique take on scifi weapons and it makes the world feel more full since theres subtle world building with the weapons. They dont feel alien but they arent exactly the same and i love it
16:28 for reference the gun initially has 3 shots when the game released but at some point over the last year it was changed to 6 for balancing purposes. Obviously the animations stayed the same.
The Mozambique is one of the weapons that came from Titanfall 2, and it could hold 6-8 rounds. It fires out of all 3 barrels simultaneously, to give it a controlled spread.
@@smalljh04 Did it really? I used to remember playing a lot of Coli back in the day and I didn’t think it had 6 rounds
@@titan1umtitan It started off as a secondary where it only had 4 (6 w/ extended mag?) rounds, but then got buffed and turned into a primary.
@@smalljh04 I see, yeah, the mag count in my mind was off by one, no wonder I was so confused
Finally! You don't know how long I've been waiting for this! Thx Jonathan!
A little detail I noticed, the g2 appears to have the same triggerguard safety as the M14.
shouldve show the smg 99 something ( I stopped playing for quite long time) skin. it looks super similar to kirss vector. And the thermite gun thingy does more damage to shields when you charge it if I remember correctly.
This dude practically runs the channel at this point
Dave and the team produce and edit the series, I just turn up and waffle in front of a camera for an hour :)
@@jonathanferguson1211 the legend himself
@@jonathanferguson1211 ayy its the guy itself
@@jonathanferguson1211 yoooo its the guy from the show i thought you were an random person
@@willowgoober Why not both?
To explain the Mozambique having 3 shells despite firing more than 3 it’s just a factor of the gun was updated to fire more for balance but originally fired 3(also did in titanfall 2)
The propellant and case (still has a regular bullet) in titanfall lore and should be the same for apex. Is they’re all batteries which should also mean the guns are rail guns not traditional rifles. There is exceptions for certain weapons like energy weapons; they use energy ammo which would imply just a big battery
Also, the bullets are electronically activated.
there's a wattson voiceline when you ping an extended energy magazine attachment where she says "Like a capacitor, I get that", so yeah it's probably like a battery
In the Rampage lmg when we inspect we can see a empty barrel. Bullet comes from right goes to left but when we stuck a thermite in it, bullets go through the thermite and heat up. This increases the damage and rate of fire. I can understand damage but rate of fire is a little bit sus
i was sitting here thinking you were going to review guns that didn’t exist lol. but i get it, you explain what type of firearms these video game guns are based on.
I have been commenting asking for this since the first video I saw you do in this series. Thank you!!! 🖤
One thing that always bugged me about the flatline was how the charging handle would be smacking into your jaw if shot while ads.
I would’ve thought that the R301 would’ve been shown here as it looks the most “realistic” ar albeit with a weird mag well.
We did cover it in the recording session. Perhaps there's a part 2 coming...
@@jonathanferguson1211 Ah, ok. Thanks for the behind the scenes info. May the emotional support StG 44 be close at hand for future videos.
@Jonathan Ferguson thank you, Jonathan, for providing excellent content and analysis as usual! Will you guys cover all the rest of the weapons on part 2? Also, the R99, in my opinion, looks like a distant descendant of the love child from a Vector and UMP.
@@tardigrade2244 Quite possible that they referenced those two designs, yes. Ironically it comes off as a less unusual take on the Vector. As for part 2, I'm not sure what Dave has planned but suspect there will be.
@@wazkangz955 It shall be :)
See you in the Outlands
I'd love to see his take on some of the more bizarre weapons in Black Ops 3 and Black Ops 4. They got some pretty whacky stuff, mainly as DLC but it may not be so easy to get footage
They can easily get their hands on the dlc stuff with the console
What's interesting to note about the flat line that he didn't get to see, is that the reason why it's set up that way is because it has an electronic compensator on it that is meant to cancel out vertical kick. It wasn't used in Apex Legends, but it works and Titanfall 2, and what that does is it makes it where it has no vertical kick whatsoever. This is why it's called the flat line, because the recoil is a flatline.
You should do fist full of frags, I'd like to see more pre ww1 weapons from the armoury
Hearing Jonathan talk about bullets going off because they are too hot instantly reminded me of Mythbusters bullets in oven myth.
I'm disappoint that GS didn't show him a rare reload animation of G7 Scout, which reloads like M1 Garand.
I like how unlike most experts on shows of this nature he doesn't just bash things that are clearly unrealistic he just explains whats off about it and then says "It looks really cool though"
The VK47 is a Reference to the 2013 Movie ''Elysium'' where a AK47 was fitted with Future tech to shoot Airburst-Explosive Bullets. The Future Furniture on the VK looks identical to the one from the movie, but to make it not so obvious the made the AK bullpup!
I can buy that it's a reference of sorts, but I don't see much of a resemblance. The Elysium AK (which I always liked the idea of) has its upgrade package (electronic fusing/electro-optical sighting) as a unitary assembly attached to the gas block of an otherwise unmodified AKM. The furniture is unchanged. The VK47 is a total redesign across the board with completely different receiver architecture and componentry i.e. is not a future upgrade of an AK. It may be, in the minds of the devs, but it doesn't work as one conceptually/design-wise.
for the energy based weapons like the 3 barreled rifle the triple take the magazine is basically a big battery. the lever action shotgun is also an energy based weapon.
i would love to see jonathan talk about the titan weapons in titanfall
There's a skin for the Flatline which literally adds barbed wire to the handle
Kinda wish they allowed Jonathan to view the weapon model and rotate it, instead of just showing it used in-round/shooting range with the player model.
Sidenote, i like the Filipino aethetic armory emblem which is the Latimosa armory. It was that way because the modeller is a Filipino
I have only played TF|2 but Isn't Lastimosa the guy who dies and gives Cooper BT ? Is the armory just named after him or does his character come from a family of Gunsmiths ? I really want to go back and play TF2 now.
I Would love for him to react to weapons from Warframe, if he’s brave enough to attempt that game with how many wack weapons there are in each slot and what they do. There are a bunch that actually look and work like realistic weapons though, and they have a great customization menu so he can see the weapons really well.
Great stuff, need a part 2 with some more of the energy guns and snipers!
"Doesn't make a lick of sense, but it's quite cool"
all I needed to hear xD
Can we see Jonathan's take on guns from Metal Gear Solid V? Very much appreciate it, Gamespot. As always love the contents. Keep it going!
I never would have known about the lastimosa reference on the g7 were it not for this video, that’s a really cool detail!
i would really like to see what Johnathan has to say about the guns in Verdun and any of the more recent Wolfenstein games.
is Verdun any good? I see it on sale on xbox store all the time (I'm on a series s) and always have thought it looks pretty cool.
@@ineedscissors6176 if you like more realistic shooters and have some interest in ww1 i think you would enjoy it. but since i play it on pc im not sure how well that the mechanics would translate to controller.
I was really hoping that he would cover the sentry. That gun has the fun quirk of not having a feasable way for the ammunition to travel from the magazine to the chamber.
I think my favorite videos in this series are of Sci-Fi or other fictional guns, but if we ever get back to games that claim to be historically accurate, I'd love to see a video on Post Scriptum. I'm no firearms expert but the sound and feel of the weapons in that game always stuck out to me as great, though I understand looking at the same "core" batch of WW2 era weapons repeatedly isn't as exciting!
5:16 - I never really noticed the ammo bar on the hemlock's sights. that is a very cool feature.
This is a nice series, Gamespot.
I really would like to see Jonathan taking another look at EFT, with a focus on all of the different types of malfunctions and clearing procedures there are now (and maybe a look at the two new guns, the HK G28 and FN SCAR)
Keep putting out 🔥🔥🔥videos
The Kraber to me seems directly inspired by the NTW-20; 3 round box +1 chamber, sideloading magazine, anti-material caliber, but also the ring at the front meant for dismantling and separately carrying the barrel.
You finally gave him something that's not just Call of Duty a 40th time or Battlefield a 30th time. I'm shocked. I had no idea you had it in you.
The only think I'd like to point out is that, I've only seen a few people talk about how the Flatline is a collapsible weapon, an animation could be seen 'unfolding' (I don't know how to describe it tbh) the gun when you pick it up.
S.T.A.L.K.E.R series please?
All 3 games.
I hope he takes a look at other weapons from the titanfall universe, like the titan weapons and the weapons in the 2 titanfall games that arent in apex. I also love that he noticed the ammunition bar on the sights.
17:49 in the titanfall universe the peacekeeper is a crude energy rail gun and the lever is used to "charge-up" the barrel for the next shot.
Johnathan was such a great pick for the series. He knows a lot about guns, and I like his sarcasm and jokes
what's cool about the Mozambique is that it's meant to be a nod to the Mozambique Drill where you shoot twice in the upper body of a target and once in the name hence the shape of the bullet mag and spread
Yoooo! I requested this a few weeks ago and im sure more people did too. Thanks for making this :D
That en-bloc pistol is reminiscent of the hailstorm system. Multiple caseless rounds are stacked up in a line and the propellant is set off for each projectile in series through electronic ignition.