said it before...i will say it agian...Cbs/Paramount needs to HIRE you and have you lead the story creation department! I wouldnt be surprised if you get approached by some of the fan films for star trek shows you find here on youtube for stories ideas. Awesome work as always!
This was so good as always. It would be interesting to see how long it lasted before the Burn in Discovery and if Starfleet built a new one once Earth rejoined the Federation in 3290.
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I'm honestly looking forward to that series. I'm hoping we get to see more of what Starfleet in the era is like, the interiors and technology of starships and an expansion on the 32nd Century Constitution class.(Hopefully the Enterprise).
I loved the explanation for the seemingly missing Space Dock during First Contact. Seem like a plot hole Star Trek never seemed to address. It could have been better served as a secondary base for non-federation ships on the opposite side of the planet.
i do love the "return" of the additional structures radiating from the core. that was in the old tech manual and popped up in the kelvin timeline, and called back to the K-7 deep space stations too.
Perfect video for Friday; u always got great timing FYI, I don’t pay attention to anything but canon but your stories are canon in my own head. Your stories follow the spirit of what Star Trek should be; thank u
i love the new space station design the only issue i have about its why the hell did starfleet use this station as the generator for the planetary shield seemed abit stupid to me insted of having multiple generators on the planet it self
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios It's an old boxing idiom "I didn't hear no bell" popularized by Sylvester Stallone in the movie Rocky V and memed in a South Park episode by Randy when he fight Bad Dad. It's to express the indomitable fighting spirit of a battered and bruised fighter rising to continue to fight well after being knocked down.
Great video! I really like both space stock and the new station. My mind always goes to how much of the space is utilized in each craft. Since I am a history buff, I can imagine the old space dock being used now on occasion in different sections for various training exercises as well as historical and cultural exhibits. Language classes, Field trips Regarding the planet it now orbits, etc.
always loved the fact in TNG episode "Relics" when Picard is talking to Scotty about the Constitution Class, he says "Theres one in the fleet museum" Referring to the starship New Jersey.
I have so been looking forward to the day where making this was possible, thanks to the 3D modeller, so a huge thankyou to all involved for making this possible. Didn't the smaller 5 pods also have docking bay doors also, that I assumed also housed docked ships? I am unsure as it has been a while since I have seen Picard Season 3 and the spacedock shots. This video definitely explains why we never saw Spacedock throughout TNG, DS9 and Voyager, and to tow a massive structure like the old Spacedock to its new home to become the new fleet museum unless it was already the fleet museum by the time of "Relics" when Picard tells Scotty that there's a Constitution class in the fleet museum, I do not know, I shall leave that to you to correct me I am sure. One thing that did bother me was that the station powered Earth's planetary shields, it would make more sense for Earth to bolster the station's shields not the opposite way round. I gather Earth has its own shield generators for the planet itself, which would be pretty powerful especially being the capital of the Federation, and when spacedock falls theres nothing to defend the planet, except for the planetary shields and any ship's defending it - if any left, to hold out long enough for either help to arrive or the shields collapse. I would personally have assumed that some shield generators on Earth also reinforced the station's shields, and that in the standoff in Picard, those planetary shield generators were sabotaged by Changelings, to help cripple the station against the fleet to then assimilate or annihilate the planetary population. Those are just my random thoughts on it, haha, and will be totally wrong I am sure on which I will accept that. And also thankfully, in the new year or so, a version of this spacedock will be coming to Star Trek Online, and pc players can view it much sooner on their tribble server, but the Earth model looks like its had a sort of nuclear disaster or something with the brownness of the continents, but, it is still early days I guess and in the testing phase. Also, I am glad you said that Spacedock was severely damaged when "Spacedock fell" as others say it was destroyed, though how could they replace such a facility in the space of a year for when we see the Enterprise-G? (If the facility had been destroyed, there would have to have meen a massive construction effort, to replace fleet losses and rebuild a full Sol Station, in such a short period of time). Again, thankyou for the video and the time and effort from all involved. Peace and Long Life
Good job on this especially the backstory. The creators of Picard or at least someone on their team do watch this channel. It seriously is an awesome channel. It is cool that the creators of Picard updated the Earth spacedock for the show. I loved how they towed the original design to Anthem Prime to be part of the fleet museum. Very fitting for sure.
Thank you for showing us the Sol Station. This video is better than what the TOS source book ever had. This video has led me to a strange question,why haven't you created a video series about the shuttlecrafts, escape pods, runabouts,and warp shuttle transports from all species (even the crashed Borg shuttle that carried Hugh)?
Thank you very much! And because a) Not enough time in the day... This channel is just my hobby as opposed to my real life job... and b) There hasnt been much demand for such videos, so they're not a priority... Only to be created when Im inspired or for filler...
The shot in this video with the Enterprise F made me think, I almost wish they’d backed it out of the space doors to honor Kirk and Crew’s “borrowing” of the original Enterprise 😂
At first glimpse of Sol Station it looks smaller than SpaceDock. However Sol Station being able to tank what looks like over 40 Starfleet ships is quite commendable!
I want to say congratulations to the people who created Sol Station and put it on Star Trek picard S3, they deserve a raise also sol Station is remastered in Star Trek Online.
What to do with Space dock, a little know option 3, a new coat of paint and hope that it would turn out better that it did on Starbase 80. but Admiral Thark Til balked when they found out that points for the purchase would NOT be added to his credit blockchain....
I’ll be honest I was always mixed about discovery and Picard content for a number of reasons. But there were designs that I loved seeing in both series especially SOL station. That and well the heart you put into the content it’s hard to show my bias when you’re such a great storyteller.
Thank you for the kind words and I appreciate you watching. Glad you enjoyed it. My goal has always been to simply provide a bit of fun (and explanation) for those who love Trek! :)
@ well hey your videos alongside other RUclipsrs have kept keep my love for series alive when I couldn’t touch sto or the main shows rubbed me the wrong way.
I wonder if the STO Version of this New Station will also be bigger then the old Earth Space Dock. And Hopefully we will get the old one finally as an explorable Fleet Museum too.^^
As big as it is you should be able to see it. Not sure with just your eyes but with binoculars you should. I think you can see the ISS with binocs if you know where to look.
There are Tow Vehicles in Trek able to combine warp fields in order to tow larger objects... Of course though warp velocity wouldn't be 9.9 or amything!
I was wondering if and I know that this is from a old old game Star trek: Birth of the Federation. Any chance you might do some videos on the Romulan Outposts and Starbases depected in the game but also some of the ships. The ships in the game do flesh out the Cardassian and Romulans more.
Hee. Admittedly you gotta wonder how in this story they figured on not needing Spacedock and all the administration and other stuff housed there for such a long time. Even moving all the offices and shops and presumably businesses or other services , probably residents, of course staff... Makes you wonder what they did for interim facilities. :)
to be honest Earth needs more than 1 space station the protect it. no space faring race will ever attack a planet with a 1 directional plan. They should have left the original Space Dock where it was and build Sol station on the other side of the planet.
I wish someone would explain the damage on the Enterprise after Wrath of Kahn. I get we probably didn't see everything for budget reason. However we see during the first attack, Spock 🖖 (I couldn't resist. Can't believe that popped up.) points out other areas that were hit. Maybe crescendo damage?
Does Sol Station still exist by the time of Star Trek Discovery? Was it ceded to Earth? I cannot recall if I saw it when they had episodes focused on Earth (without giving away spoilers).
2:38 your telling here that the galaxy class can’t fit in the original earth space dock. But de Enterprise D was housed in bay 12 when the original sol station was at aethen prime.
Uh no, as unlike Armor of the Gods, these shields do indeed fail! In fact, Sol Station is something that is expected for the protection of such an important Sector like Sol!
Ahhhh, well in future, try using emotes, because unlike Troi's mom, none of us here can read minds! And that is exactly what emotes are designed for! 😉😜
I don't get why anyone would feel that housing a planetary shield generator on a space station is a good idea. If I could of had a say in this: ESD is the first line shields, the second layer planet-based generators, then regional, and finally local. But, hey this is Star Trek, not Warhammer 40K... oh, well.
Then what you know is WRONG! ESD or Earth Spacedock was first seen in Star Trek III: The Search for Spock, this is NOT that base! As the video is clear about it, and it is canon, you need to move forward, as this NEW station is called Sol Station not ESD!
Only thing I didnt like about SOL station in Picard season 3 was it seemed to be repaired to easily in the "One year later" thing. They should have had a little work still being done to fix it.
Why? It actually makes sense that it wouldn't take long to repair... Im sure the Borg only wanted to damage it and take down its shields but still keep it intact for their use...
How so? To my knowledge, there's only 1 Starfleet Assets that ever received a full refit, and it was a ship! My guess is they learned from that horrible experience!
Why do the Ships need to maintain a Warp Bubble and be under constant Engine power, if there's no inertia in Space. The impulse engines work as what we could make. Are the Solar Winds so bad that constant Engine power is needed. Without doing any research, it seems to be an inaccurate understanding,in my Mind.
No, it needs to maintain a warp bubble because faster than light travel is not possible in normal space... Thus the "bubble" transfers the ship to a layer of space where the laws of physics, like Einsteins Law of relativity, does not apply, allowing the ship to travel at faster than light speeds!
What was the trek designers point of incorporating solid "hanger doors" on the Sol space station instead of just using integrity shields the same as we see on ships shuttle bays when shuttles enter and exit the bay? At least with ships we can say that the solid doors make sense since a shuttle bay or cargo bay is a far smaller space with environmental systems such as artificial gravity and life support so those bay doors, while perhaps still not essential, offers a sort of redundancy safety feature should the integrity shield fail or the power is needed to be diverted for some emergency requirements. However we can't say that's the reason for a ginormous space station having these solid bay doors vs simply having shields and integrity fields protecting the points of entrance/exits for ships. After all, we've seen enough movies and episodes where it's clear that the internal space where ships dock and are serviced has neither an artificial gravity nor environmental systems offering breathable air etc. No, it appears as a zero gravity environment like space for intents and purposes, as we see people in space suits floating about as they carry out maintenance, and small craft and connection hubs ferrying people to and from ships and areas within the station, though we could probably assume that this internal space is at least protected from harmful space radiation and debris.
They dont use shields for various reasons... Environmental Solar Discharges, Radiation, Lower power cost especially when under attack! Doors make sense, and even ships with force fields STILL have/ use doors!
@TriAngulumAudioStudios Didn't you say this station has no less than 10 advanced power generators enough to power the entire planets shielding? Do the math for the diameter of the Earth and how ginormous the diameter of a shield bubble around that would be(ridiculous proposition tbh) so I think it can handle maintaining shields and force fields across the ship access openings to the station, and don't forget, it's not like a shield failure would decompress the internal docking area of the space station unlike the shuttle/cargo bay of a ship which has a fully functioning artificial environment within in with gravity and air. There's no such concerns with the space station. Should such energy based shielding fail, nothing happens, the internal space for ships is effectively space without gravity or air. You could say the solid doors on the space station offer additional shielding if they are indeed armored and to be fair they do look incredibly thick. The older or "original" Sol station is more interesting in that regards since it was pre-abladive armor and a Constitution era(perhaps even pre-constitution?) so I'm not sure what the Trek lore is for that era in regards armor plating on ships and stations, if any. Certainly the way the Borg cutting beam casually cut a several deck deep section out of a far newer Galaxy-Class(albeit an exploration vessel with families, pets and restaurants etc) in less than a second would probably suggest that the original Sol stations bay doors offered very little in regards protection in the event of an energy shield and forcefield failure outside of a "the opening is covered, we're safe!" placebic nothing.
You should know that EVERY bit of power counts in battle! Also, my understanding of the base is that the interior could be pressurized for certain starship procedures, but even if it couldn't, doors still make sense... You make a lot of assumptions in your comments that just aren't able to be proven, IE the thickness of the hull... You dont know how thick it is and in the 23rd Century weve seen starships hot by weaponry and only have a little blackening on the Hull... So you dont know the amount of protection this hull gives... Also in future please pay better attention to the video, as it says that the 10 fusion generators work in concert with planetary based shield generator ls... So it isnt the station that is generating the shield bubble, but it IS controlling it and Earths defenses! Anyhow again doors make sense for so many reasons on a facility like this... Take care! (THREAD CLOSED- No further comments will appear to prevent OP from continuing an incorrect circular argument)
Sorry, you are completely incorrect! dictionary.cambridge.org/pronunciation/english/sol Besides, your services as pronunciation police are neither desired, nor required, Im doing just fine without you, as you being incorrect proves! LOL
Thank you! I know I did... Some people are just jealous and look to try to knit pick as much as they can, even when they're completely wrong, because they simply can't do what I do! :)
Sol Station Designers: Our new station can handle ANY Starfleet vessels.
Doug Drexler: Wanna bet!
LOL
If that’s the one from the last episode that got pounded on by the fleet, that is one tough station.
Original Earth Spacedock: Am I a joke to you?
Pretty much, now, yeahhhhhh... :P LOL It's like Kirk being assigned to be Museum tour Guide I guess :P
What I know is that that thing can hold up to a hell of a lot of firepower in a sustained fashion.
Damn right it can! ;) :P
said it before...i will say it agian...Cbs/Paramount needs to HIRE you and have you lead the story creation department! I wouldnt be surprised if you get approached by some of the fan films for star trek shows you find here on youtube for stories ideas. Awesome work as always!
Well as always, thank you :)
I agree with snarkywolfgames.
I also agree. They won't unfortunately. They seem to prefer lackluster garbage.
Agreed. Im just wondering if we make enough noise to CBS/Paramount that they will take notice of Triangulum and see this potential talent.
I also wholeheartedly agree. Your videos and information are amazing
Great video! Love how you mix it up and keep the channel super interesting.
Thanks George! :)
Oooh space station time! Hooray!
Yeah, thought I'd try something a wee bit different ;) :P
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I like different and this is definitely different. Good choice.
Thank you!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudiosI googled the length from meters to miles: 38.836 miles😳😳😳😳😁😁😁👍👍👍👍. This beautiful station is HUGE😳😳😳😳
This was so good as always. It would be interesting to see how long it lasted before the Burn in Discovery and if Starfleet built a new one once Earth rejoined the Federation in 3290.
We'll have to wait until the Academy Show to find out ;)
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I'm honestly looking forward to that series. I'm hoping we get to see more of what Starfleet in the era is like, the interiors and technology of starships and an expansion on the 32nd Century Constitution class.(Hopefully the Enterprise).
Well they are making a ship for the show, so my guess is we will :)
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios That's so exciting.
I know right? :)
I like Sol Station. Sol Station kept some design aspeks of the old space dock which is now reclassified as the Fleet museum.
Yes I love it too :)
Everytime you say "out" my heart smiles! ❤ Your videos are awesome!
Wow, thank you! TAS Out! :P
I loved the explanation for the seemingly missing Space Dock during First Contact. Seem like a plot hole Star Trek never seemed to address. It could have been better served as a secondary base for non-federation ships on the opposite side of the planet.
Thank you! That was the first plot point I sought out to address!
Fantastic Video! I really enjoy hearing about the history of little seen or often mentioned ships and stations.
i do love the "return" of the additional structures radiating from the core. that was in the old tech manual and popped up in the kelvin timeline, and called back to the K-7 deep space stations too.
It certainly does have that sort of TOS Era "pod" feel!
Perfect video for Friday; u always got great timing
FYI, I don’t pay attention to anything but canon but your stories are canon in my own head. Your stories follow the spirit of what Star Trek should be; thank u
You're welcome. I'm glad you enjoy my stories! :)
That is very impressive. Well done Sir!
Thank you! :)
This is a great video fitting of the great Earth space station. I was really impressed how long it held out during the last episode of Picard ❤
Thank you! And yes, so was I!
i love the new space station design the only issue i have about its why the hell did starfleet use this station as the generator for the planetary shield seemed abit stupid to me insted of having multiple generators on the planet it self
Well apparently it worked in concert with the Planetary Generators and controlled them!
Sol station during the Borg incidient in 2401:
"Spits out blood"
"I ain't hear no BELL!"
Huh? I dont get it...
@TriAngulumAudioStudios basically 1 vs the entire fleet till pretty much destrucyion
Is that a quote from a movie though?
@TriAngulumAudioStudios its more from a meme really, but i can't remember the origin
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios It's an old boxing idiom "I didn't hear no bell" popularized by Sylvester Stallone in the movie Rocky V and memed in a South Park episode by Randy when he fight Bad Dad. It's to express the indomitable fighting spirit of a battered and bruised fighter rising to continue to fight well after being knocked down.
Impressive station and history.
Thanks!
David did a great job on that Model. I used it and turned it into an STL
He always does a great job with his models!
Great video! I really like both space stock and the new station. My mind always goes to how much of the space is utilized in each craft. Since I am a history buff, I can imagine the old space dock being used now on occasion in different sections for various training exercises as well as historical and cultural exhibits. Language classes, Field trips Regarding the planet it now orbits, etc.
always loved the fact in TNG episode "Relics" when Picard is talking to Scotty about the Constitution Class, he says "Theres one in the fleet museum" Referring to the starship New Jersey.
I have so been looking forward to the day where making this was possible, thanks to the 3D modeller, so a huge thankyou to all involved for making this possible.
Didn't the smaller 5 pods also have docking bay doors also, that I assumed also housed docked ships? I am unsure as it has been a while since I have seen Picard Season 3 and the spacedock shots.
This video definitely explains why we never saw Spacedock throughout TNG, DS9 and Voyager, and to tow a massive structure like the old Spacedock to its new home to become the new fleet museum unless it was already the fleet museum by the time of "Relics" when Picard tells Scotty that there's a Constitution class in the fleet museum, I do not know, I shall leave that to you to correct me I am sure.
One thing that did bother me was that the station powered Earth's planetary shields, it would make more sense for Earth to bolster the station's shields not the opposite way round.
I gather Earth has its own shield generators for the planet itself, which would be pretty powerful especially being the capital of the Federation, and when spacedock falls theres nothing to defend the planet, except for the planetary shields and any ship's defending it - if any left, to hold out long enough for either help to arrive or the shields collapse.
I would personally have assumed that some shield generators on Earth also reinforced the station's shields, and that in the standoff in Picard, those planetary shield generators were sabotaged by Changelings, to help cripple the station against the fleet to then assimilate or annihilate the planetary population.
Those are just my random thoughts on it, haha, and will be totally wrong I am sure on which I will accept that.
And also thankfully, in the new year or so, a version of this spacedock will be coming to Star Trek Online, and pc players can view it much sooner on their tribble server, but the Earth model looks like its had a sort of nuclear disaster or something with the brownness of the continents, but, it is still early days I guess and in the testing phase.
Also, I am glad you said that Spacedock was severely damaged when "Spacedock fell" as others say it was destroyed, though how could they replace such a facility in the space of a year for when we see the Enterprise-G? (If the facility had been destroyed, there would have to have meen a massive construction effort, to replace fleet losses and rebuild a full Sol Station, in such a short period of time).
Again, thankyou for the video and the time and effort from all involved.
Peace and Long Life
Good job on this especially the backstory. The creators of Picard or at least someone on their team do watch this channel. It seriously is an awesome channel.
It is cool that the creators of Picard updated the Earth spacedock for the show. I loved how they towed the original design to Anthem Prime to be part of the fleet museum. Very fitting for sure.
Thank you so much! I try :)
And once again you came up with a great story man ❤😊❤
I'm glad you enjoyed it! :) Thank you!
Thank you for showing us the Sol Station. This video is better than what the TOS source book ever had.
This video has led me to a strange question,why haven't you created a video series about the shuttlecrafts, escape pods, runabouts,and warp shuttle transports from all species (even the crashed Borg shuttle that carried Hugh)?
Thank you very much! And because a) Not enough time in the day... This channel is just my hobby as opposed to my real life job... and b) There hasnt been much demand for such videos, so they're not a priority... Only to be created when Im inspired or for filler...
Ty for the video and LLAP!
Nice green aurora in the background.
Thanks, the little details matter 😉
The shot in this video with the Enterprise F made me think, I almost wish they’d backed it out of the space doors to honor Kirk and Crew’s “borrowing” of the original Enterprise 😂
GREAT WORK👏🏿👏🏾👏🏽👏🏼👏🏻
good video - love the new starbase design
Thanks!
At first glimpse of Sol Station it looks smaller than SpaceDock.
However Sol Station being able to tank what looks like over 40 Starfleet ships is quite commendable!
Optical Illusion fun!
Yay! Thank you for this video!
You are so welcome! :)
I want to say congratulations to the people who created Sol Station and put it on Star Trek picard S3, they deserve a raise also sol Station is remastered in Star Trek Online.
I always wondered who were the lucky individuals who got rooms by the space dock main doors. 😂
What to do with Space dock, a little know option 3, a new coat of paint and hope that it would turn out better that it did on Starbase 80.
but Admiral Thark Til balked when they found out that points for the purchase would NOT be added to his credit blockchain....
LOL
Love it! If you haven't done so already, could you do a video on the novel version of the replacement for the destroyed NOR version DS9?
Thank you! And unfortunately, I don't have a 3d Model of that! Perhaps one day!
Great video
Thanks!
As always 👌
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks!
They are replacing this in STO
Indeed they are!
I’ll be honest I was always mixed about discovery and Picard content for a number of reasons. But there were designs that I loved seeing in both series especially SOL station. That and well the heart you put into the content it’s hard to show my bias when you’re such a great storyteller.
Thank you for the kind words and I appreciate you watching. Glad you enjoyed it. My goal has always been to simply provide a bit of fun (and explanation) for those who love Trek! :)
@ well hey your videos alongside other RUclipsrs have kept keep my love for series alive when I couldn’t touch sto or the main shows rubbed me the wrong way.
Im glad I could help!
I’d need to compare the sizes of Star starbase 1 from strange new worlds and earth space dock from Picard.
It’s a faithful upgrade to the ESD design.
I wonder if the STO Version of this New Station will also be bigger then the old Earth Space Dock.
And Hopefully we will get the old one finally as an explorable Fleet Museum too.^^
Mayday mayday our shields are down man though it took a beating it lasted long cool
It certainly did :)
Wonder what Sol Station would look like from Earth's surface? How easy would it be to see?
That's a great question! One Ive also considered at times! :)
As big as it is you should be able to see it. Not sure with just your eyes but with binoculars you should. I think you can see the ISS with binocs if you know where to look.
One question though? How the hell did they manage to envelop such vast space station into warp bubble field to tow it???
There are Tow Vehicles in Trek able to combine warp fields in order to tow larger objects... Of course though warp velocity wouldn't be 9.9 or amything!
I would be interested to know if the UFP took the station with it when they were forced off Earth after The Burn.
Pity STO has a different Spacedock.
No worries, they are changing Spacedock to this one soon!
I was wondering if and I know that this is from a old old game Star trek: Birth of the Federation. Any chance you might do some videos on the Romulan Outposts and Starbases depected in the game but also some of the ships. The ships in the game do flesh out the Cardassian and Romulans more.
like it this video very good work
Thank you Dom!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios No Problem
Did you ever made a video about Deep Space Nine II ?
No I havent, as there are no High Quality 3d Models available for that design!
Okay, one thing I really have to ask - the name "Truth or Myth" keeps bothering me. Did the inspiration for it come from Homestar Runner?
Hee. Admittedly you gotta wonder how in this story they figured on not needing Spacedock and all the administration and other stuff housed there for such a long time. Even moving all the offices and shops and presumably businesses or other services , probably residents, of course staff... Makes you wonder what they did for interim facilities. :)
Im sure they had it all figured out ;) :P
DS9 starfleet edition
Well it does make sense...
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to be honest Earth needs more than 1 space station the protect it. no space faring race will ever attack a planet with a 1 directional plan. They should have left the original Space Dock where it was and build Sol station on the other side of the planet.
Why only one? I always think Star trek is underpopulated considering there's no sickness or hunger
That's what colonies in trek are for...
Nice video. Did you do this for StarFleet headquarters for the Discovery 32nd Century Station?
No, not yet!
I wish someone would explain the damage on the Enterprise after Wrath of Kahn. I get we probably didn't see everything for budget reason. However we see during the first attack, Spock 🖖 (I couldn't resist. Can't believe that popped up.) points out other areas that were hit. Maybe crescendo damage?
It cant be explained as anything explained would just be a guess amd meaningless... Neither Canon or Beta Canon has ever explained it
Does Sol Station still exist by the time of Star Trek Discovery? Was it ceded to Earth? I cannot recall if I saw it when they had episodes focused on Earth (without giving away spoilers).
No, not from the evidence in the Series!
2:38 your telling here that the galaxy class can’t fit in the original earth space dock. But de Enterprise D was housed in bay 12 when the original sol station was at aethen prime.
Thats right, because LaForge had the doors altered to allow it when he decided to rebuild the D!
I'll say this in favor of Earth's Spacedock- She may not be as big as some, but she's got shielding like the Armor of God.
Uh no, as unlike Armor of the Gods, these shields do indeed fail! In fact, Sol Station is something that is expected for the protection of such an important Sector like Sol!
@ it was a joke lol
Ahhhh, well in future, try using emotes, because unlike Troi's mom, none of us here can read minds! And that is exactly what emotes are designed for! 😉😜
*Sol III Station. Somehow ST ignores this concept around the planet named for dirt that is mostly covered in salt water.
No, *Sol Station! It's the name of the Station, not It's location! So nothing was ignored at all as this is how it's done in the Trek Universe!
Did we see the Enterprise-D enter a spacedock like station this in Season 1 and season 4. So clearly some could handle ships of Project Galaxy.
Right, a station LIKE this, not this station!
I don't get why anyone would feel that housing a planetary shield generator on a space station is a good idea. If I could of had a say in this: ESD is the first line shields, the second layer planet-based generators, then regional, and finally local. But, hey this is Star Trek, not Warhammer 40K... oh, well.
As the video said, shield Generators worked in concert with those on the planet...
At least it doesn't look like a snow globe in space.
Nothing wrong with Snow Globes!
@TriAngulumAudioStudios No, nothing wrong at all, except they look like they're about to crack. 😂
And looks can be deceiving ;) :P
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios True that!!
i thought they had earth station mckinley where the entterprise d was repaired after the furst showdown with the borg
That was just a starship drydock
I know this facility as earth space dock
Then what you know is WRONG! ESD or Earth Spacedock was first seen in Star Trek III: The Search for Spock, this is NOT that base! As the video is clear about it, and it is canon, you need to move forward, as this NEW station is called Sol Station not ESD!
Humans keep century old rock fences. I find it hard to believe we would tow that station out of the system. We want to LOOK at it.
Well it's canon, so believe it! Besudes, you can LOOK at it, as the Fleet Museum In the Athan System!
@TriAngulumAudioStudios I know its cannon. I just don't think we would do it lol
But we DID do it, it's canon! Lol
ººSpock once told Uhuru that Volcan doesn't have a moon. (I'm just saying)
Yeahhhhh... That's the joke...
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Oh. Thanks.
Lol you're welcome 😉
Ok what about Pike and Strange new worlds space station with the forest and stuff.
Starbase One? Yes? What about it?
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios what happen to the forest and stuff.
Im still not sure what you're asking as Starbase One has NO connection to Sol Station...
Only thing I didnt like about SOL station in Picard season 3 was it seemed to be repaired to easily in the "One year later" thing. They should have had a little work still being done to fix it.
Why? It actually makes sense that it wouldn't take long to repair... Im sure the Borg only wanted to damage it and take down its shields but still keep it intact for their use...
Building a new on from scratch instead of full refit, how very un Starfleet like. Thinking about I wonder if there is dedicated space dock towing ship
How so? To my knowledge, there's only 1 Starfleet Assets that ever received a full refit, and it was a ship! My guess is they learned from that horrible experience!
Space dock has a much better look
Naahhhhh, as you can ses by the comments, both are loved! And I agree that neither is better than the other!
Why would you move the first space Doc before the 2nd one is complete an ready to take its place.
Near infinite hit points lol
Uhmmmm no, not exactly, as it did fall... lol
Why do the Ships need to maintain a Warp Bubble and be under constant Engine power, if there's no inertia in Space. The impulse engines work as what we could make. Are the Solar Winds so bad that constant Engine power is needed. Without doing any research, it seems to be an inaccurate understanding,in my Mind.
No, it needs to maintain a warp bubble because faster than light travel is not possible in normal space... Thus the "bubble" transfers the ship to a layer of space where the laws of physics, like Einsteins Law of relativity, does not apply, allowing the ship to travel at faster than light speeds!
Very, very heavily armed, but more than DS9? Not really.
WAY more Heavily Armed than DS9, with FAR newer Technology!
What was the trek designers point of incorporating solid "hanger doors" on the Sol space station instead of just using integrity shields the same as we see on ships shuttle bays when shuttles enter and exit the bay?
At least with ships we can say that the solid doors make sense since a shuttle bay or cargo bay is a far smaller space with environmental systems such as artificial gravity and life support so those bay doors, while perhaps still not essential, offers a sort of redundancy safety feature should the integrity shield fail or the power is needed to be diverted for some emergency requirements.
However we can't say that's the reason for a ginormous space station having these solid bay doors vs simply having shields and integrity fields protecting the points of entrance/exits for ships. After all, we've seen enough movies and episodes where it's clear that the internal space where ships dock and are serviced has neither an artificial gravity nor environmental systems offering breathable air etc. No, it appears as a zero gravity environment like space for intents and purposes, as we see people in space suits floating about as they carry out maintenance, and small craft and connection hubs ferrying people to and from ships and areas within the station, though we could probably assume that this internal space is at least protected from harmful space radiation and debris.
They dont use shields for various reasons... Environmental Solar Discharges, Radiation, Lower power cost especially when under attack! Doors make sense, and even ships with force fields STILL have/ use doors!
@TriAngulumAudioStudios Didn't you say this station has no less than 10 advanced power generators enough to power the entire planets shielding? Do the math for the diameter of the Earth and how ginormous the diameter of a shield bubble around that would be(ridiculous proposition tbh) so I think it can handle maintaining shields and force fields across the ship access openings to the station, and don't forget, it's not like a shield failure would decompress the internal docking area of the space station unlike the shuttle/cargo bay of a ship which has a fully functioning artificial environment within in with gravity and air. There's no such concerns with the space station. Should such energy based shielding fail, nothing happens, the internal space for ships is effectively space without gravity or air.
You could say the solid doors on the space station offer additional shielding if they are indeed armored and to be fair they do look incredibly thick. The older or "original" Sol station is more interesting in that regards since it was pre-abladive armor and a Constitution era(perhaps even pre-constitution?) so I'm not sure what the Trek lore is for that era in regards armor plating on ships and stations, if any. Certainly the way the Borg cutting beam casually cut a several deck deep section out of a far newer Galaxy-Class(albeit an exploration vessel with families, pets and restaurants etc) in less than a second would probably suggest that the original Sol stations bay doors offered very little in regards protection in the event of an energy shield and forcefield failure outside of a "the opening is covered, we're safe!" placebic nothing.
You should know that EVERY bit of power counts in battle! Also, my understanding of the base is that the interior could be pressurized for certain starship procedures, but even if it couldn't, doors still make sense... You make a lot of assumptions in your comments that just aren't able to be proven, IE the thickness of the hull... You dont know how thick it is and in the 23rd Century weve seen starships hot by weaponry and only have a little blackening on the Hull... So you dont know the amount of protection this hull gives... Also in future please pay better attention to the video, as it says that the 10 fusion generators work in concert with planetary based shield generator ls... So it isnt the station that is generating the shield bubble, but it IS controlling it and Earths defenses! Anyhow again doors make sense for so many reasons on a facility like this... Take care!
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Sol as in doll not "Soul" Station
Sorry, you are completely incorrect! dictionary.cambridge.org/pronunciation/english/sol Besides, your services as pronunciation police are neither desired, nor required, Im doing just fine without you, as you being incorrect proves! LOL
this guy is wrong tri said it right
Thank you! I know I did... Some people are just jealous and look to try to knit pick as much as they can, even when they're completely wrong, because they simply can't do what I do! :)
And yet it got it's ass had to it by the borg in 2401.
Uh No! It fought off an entire fleet of Starfleet Ships for a LONG time before it valiantly fell...
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