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Please try the settings that I wrote for the game, it's terribly interesting to see how much you will survive, so far I've been surviving for about 15 days at most =))
I've been having a boring experience lately since the unstable experimental update. I have nearly seen no zombies. I've only found zombies when I do buried supplies missions, and that's it do you why that is.
It's too easy for me when there's no zombies. I'm this case to going to Alpha 21 because this is ridiculous.
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My biggest problem is:
City optimizations still arent enough.
Lack of weapon varieties.
Lack of vehicle varieties.
Lack of end game tasks or final goals.
All that is upgraded with mods, but either you are a good modder or you try to find a good server xD
@@akarimusha9984 you shouldnt have to have mods in a game to be just barely satisfied. mods are meant to change mechanics in the games, not meant to give the game things it should have in the first place. valheim plays perfectly without mods, but theres things that add QOL and overhaul mods for biomes. 7dtd has things like undead legacy, and darkness falls as overhauls, most of the other mods shouldnt even exist because the game SHOULD have alot of the things those other mods introduce.
again like bdubs vehicles, weapons mods, ect. these wouldnt exist in the form they currently do if the fun pimps would do their jobs and implement more than 4 weapon tiers per weapon type. theres no reason to play this game beyond day 70 because there are no true end game super broken items to go after, like a hyper bike, armoured vehicles and helicopters, dirt bikes, transport trucks and semis. theres no miniguns, no god level snipers like the barrett, theres the bone knife, hunting knife, machete but no swords/claymores.
the game could be so much better than what it currently is if tfp swallowed their pride and bought out modding content/hired a couple more people for designing actual entity items.
and for the love of god they never aligned the ironsights and probably never will, it's such a minor problem but for me it's so annoying
@Elite02k can you explain what you mean by "city optimization"? I agree with the other points.
@Svenu2 there's been several implementations of mechanics meant to limit rendering of assets objects and AI in order to make gameplay in the city run smoother. For example, zombies don't spawn inside buildings until you hit a certain Tigger point (going into rooms, going on the roof, ect), the game no longer renders the interiors of buildings until you are close enough to them (windows go from reflective to see through upon walking up). I feel like they could optimize some of their textures, some objects that are 5+ years old using way more polygons in their shapes for higher detailed but less intensive requirement skins and objects, and just smoothing out some textures and skins in general.
Personally, I view having a goal-less game a good thing. You get to choose how you want to end it: survive until day 7,000? Max out all abilities? Destroy everything? Rebuild a city?
Having an something to mark the end of a game will make you feel empty after.
I agree in the sense that after you beat gender dragon it’s ggs but still
You could still do all of that and satisfy some end game goal for us story/lore nerds.
That is exactly one of my critiques of the game. In an ideal world the devs would do that but Madmole has said that they focus on the first 4 hours of experience - someone buys the game, plays it for 4-5 hrs and never looks at it again. Their words, not mine. I really hope that with 1.0 they will change their stance on that. The graphics cant compensate for the lack of content.
"leaving players in an endless loop of survival without a true sense of progression or achievement " ...so, like a real zombie apocalypse then.
Nope.
you lived through many?
A real zombie apocalypse would surely have some sense of rebuild, finding a cure, or eradicating the zombies.
They are working on it. End of next year is when they plan but I am betting it will be spring of 2026
Just Tossing a idea out here but maybe a few or one big building that unlocks throughout the game through the trader quests. For example you are at the max trader quest tier and there are building that are not accessible like how the trader is at night and it wont open the house or bunker whatever it may be until the trader offers the special quest to do so. So last tier you start the special quest and you load up on ammo meds and once you start you can leave similar to a quest or you have to start over and there is a mega boss zombie like the huge boar that's in the game and after completion there is a npc that talks about the lore of the game or something. This would be a fun end game finish. There could also be multiple of these, like one after each quest tier a special gated building opens and you can make a go at clearing it but they are very hard with zombies that have extra buffs or just the sheer number of them in there.
Trader protection for story line quests is a pretty nice idea.
I’d like to remove the trader all together. They take the whole survival aspect out of the game.
@@grumpynomad3551 That's the easiest thing at all: Just don't enter trader compounds! Imagine them as completely mined on every voxel or something like that. And think about not betraying yourself!
I think the end game of 7 Days to Die is subjective. I have no problems existing well up into the 100's of levels, meanwhile some folks believe they win after a certain amount of days. I've seen personally met end game goals (once we get a gyro we can fly outta here, etc etc) and that's just the thing. Not everyone determines what they end game is the same. Choosing your level of involvement is what makes it unique. It does bum me out we don't have the Duke in game quite yet, but in the meantime there are so many different existing ways to play.
I have never played Minecraft to fight the ender dragon or Conan or Ark to reach any kind of end game state. For me it is more so about the journey and even with Diablo II it was the loot you got from the end game boss. I think what it could use is a story line and bigger quests and factions just giving your survival in the world some effect. Making the journey bigger not necessarily an end game.
I always thought that it would be easy to have a clear campaign. Once you clear all of the POIs the town is ready for resettlement. Then you can move on to a different town or biome. Once you have cleared the map, you win!
I understand that for many Gamers winning the game via an end game goal is desired. I just enjoy playing and could care less about having a final objective. I feel that in this game, surviving is the objective. If you reach a point where the game has become routine or boring, then start over with a new run through, increase the level of difficulty or perhaps moving on to a new game may be the answer. I mean if you completed the end game goal, that is what you would do anyway, right? I like that I do not have objectives I have to meet. I can play at my own pace and complete tasks or quests when I want. I do not need an "End Game Objective" to enjoy 7 Days To Die. Just my humble opinion from the perspective.
For me, I just play until I get bored, then find an interesting Mod and start a new game.
Playing through the End of The World with no final goal other than surviving another day seems exceedingly realistic to me, and I dig it :)
@@NathanSeabolt True.
As an old Cold Warrior, we were trained to survive after a nuclear war.
Not fun, one day at a time.
Yeah, I like the free form feel. It would be cool to have different things to happen as you break past certain horde night thresholds. Like special perks and such. Maybe you can unlock unique blueprints or learn new skills as a reward for passing horde nights and not dying.
Building in this game is so much fun. People need to try it out more often than just building a horde base and call it a day.
They also toook out the light jump and full jump, so now you bump your head all the time
I’m probably the outlier, but honestly I like that there is no end goal. It’s a true sandbox that allows you to craft your own goal.
If/when they add a story and I beat it. Then what?
Personally I’d either put it down and never play again or jus go back ignore the story and try to challenge myself with a self made goal like I was doing before
Story mode, story mode, story mode. They need to stop making POIs. There are plenty of them now. They also need to rework this jenk a$$ leveling "perk" system. They need to make generalized perk section for SINGLE PLAYERS. Locking Mother load and Miner 69'er behind strength, for example, needs to be moved out of strength. ALL players need to mine for base building. This alone takes away from role playing as a perception, agility, fortitude or intellect build because now the player has to dump points into strength. Fallout New Vegas has Traits, Skills then Perks. They need to benchmark other RPGs and fix this frustrating mess.
Agreed. And locking things behind insane amounts of RNG sucks for those of us that are 'statistically challenged and probability impaired'.
This is the intent of FunPimps until they finish the content. They purposefully force you from one biome to the next, fully expecting you to build a new base in each area along with a Horde base, so that your progression is so slow, that you spend months getting through to the Wasteland city and they have time to flesh out the final goals of the game. The early and midgame are a mess. Progress is exhaustingly slow. Putting a different trader in each biome makes no sense. Players don't want to build bases in each are as they progress. They also don't want to spend 3-4 hours of any given day, traveling one way, to a biome to do quests. Especially if that biome doesn't offer you any real incentive to be there. Yay.. a loot stage that's marginally better than the forest. Outstanding. Wonderful. Loot is still crap early. Making it so that the large cities, (which are actually fun and interesting) only spawn in later game biomes is another step in the WRONG direction. If they actually cared about the users, they would at least make it an option so that players could choose the size and area of cities that are in each biome. 7d2d has such amazing potential, but the Funpimps are doing their level best to make it a worse experience for the new and casual gamer.
My problem is that it doesn't feel like a true survival game anymore as it did before A17. It's more of a looter shooter rpg game now, feels really arcade and simplified
An optional end game scenario wouldn't be a bad idea. Often, once I get to a certain point where the unending repetition starts, I look for ways to spice things up or just start a new game.
I feel like doing absolutely everything that you can possibly do plus making a trader sized base is about as far as most will go.
One tip that can make a 100% completion world last longer is make the in game settings like player and zombie block damage to just be set to 25% so realistically you and zombies won't be Superman and one shot blocks. Plus to make the progression feel even slower on top of all that also make the XP gained to be 25% along with loot abundance being 25%.
Then of course choose whatever difficulty fits your play style.
Tested out these settings myself and it honestly makes the games progressing feel like how the developers intended the game to be played.
Of course these settings are just my personal opinion on how to make the game and progression feel more impactful giving you a clear goal for the endgame.
Also helpful tip for the start of the game if you aren't finding loot with 25% loot abundance speck into lucky looter
Allowing you to actually find things in most containers.
Then finally try permadeath game setting to further enhance the satisfaction of progression of keeping a character alive and not dying.
One thing to take note is the beginning of the game will be the hardest part of the game, once you've completed your first ten trader missions and unlocked the bike it's pretty much smooth sailing from there of course you'll have to be careful.
My bike keeps sinking into the road when going from forest to burnt biome
That's a server problem.
@@ReachGaming It's happened to me recently on a single player game, Things 'phasing through solid objects' aren't just restricted to zombies anymore.
My minibike was stuck half in and half out of the tarmac. I could ride, it....just like the zombies halfway suck into the floor. But I couldn't get it OUT until I broke blocks in front of it. This kinda shit should NOT be happening in a game that 'went gold'.
@@pbsixgun6 Even if you're in a singleplayer game you're still hosting your own local server.
The problem is solved very simply. Try to play like me. The loot is 25%. Just the wasteland. Loot does not resume. Zombies are always running. No merchant quests. And preferably with one life. I assure you you will be happy with every jar and the goal will simply be to survive at any cost =))) There will be completely different priorities.
All fair ideas, but I think many people crave an ending to a story. A final, epic set piece which draws the game to a close.
How about a two stage ending?
It could be something like this:
At a certain game stage and player level you have the option to be time travelled to just before the zombie virus outbreak. Sort of a "Terminator" type scenario. Once there you must avert the outbreak OR die trying. But remember. This is pre-apocolypse, so loot is very limited. If successful you can live happily ever after.
If you do not avert the disaster and die in the attempt, then you wake up in a new map somewhere as a level 0 just like the normal game start.
Over the years they made the base game easier and easier, taking away all challenge ... just completed an insane setting 64 Z blood moon and it never presented a challenge ... no environmental challenge, no food and water challenge ... you can get great gear without even trying ... make a easy setting by all means but also give us a challenge setting ... thank goodness for overhaul mods ....
My gaming group totally agrees. Once you hit somewhere between lvl 50 - 80 (for us) it becomes completely boring. You have all the best weapons and armor, your base is finished, your horde base is OP and, almost overnight, you suddenly feel bored. At that point you have to choose between an overhaul mod or just move to another game
I always thought a nice idea for end game content would be to become a trader, maybe a mission arch after tier 6 or something.
You've survived countless hordes, completed all the missions, now it's time to settle down. I don't really know how they could implement it but maybe you could clear out and modify a particular POI, you might need to scavenge for particular equipment and amass a certain number of dukes, get a certain amount of trader rep with all traders etc. I doubt it will happen but I'd like to see something like that as an end game goal.
I think you touched on a valid point. I think they should bring innovations to the game that will provide long-term gameplay. Numerous cosmetic vehicle mods, clothing and weapon mods can be added to the game, and dungeon boss battles can be added.
Overhaul mods like Rebirth, Darkness Falls, and War3zuk tackle many of these issues. But the vanilla game as you say is endless. It would be great to find a cure and really begin to turn things around, especially with more living player action
I just finished a Day 70 horde and started a new game right after, for the exact reason you're stating, and for the 4th time this year.
It's the early and mid-game that's interesting and fun, and even that would get incredibly stale if you don't mod the game.
What I think would be really great, is if this game had a way to "inject" things to our worlds, like how Bethesda does it with the God forsaken Creation Store.
If we want to try a mod or try a POI Pack, prefab, overhaul, ect....we need to start a new game / RGW. I wish I could just add a POI Pack or an Overhaul directly into the world I'm playing.
I'm worried that outside of Overhauls and user-created POI's / Prefabs....there isn't an Endgame that would satisfy. I mean there has to be, but I can't think of what that would be. Until then it's off to a massive mod list and Overhauls like Afterlife to keep things interesting.
My biggest problem is performance in this game.
(did you see how it's struggling on PS5?? 11 years after the beginning of its development)
Storyline is going to be added next year with a total remake of the interface and new npcs.
They should fix the performance issues first even if it certainly is hard to fix
I agree about the need for an endgame. All they’ve done so far is to stretch out the mid game by limiting quest rewards and the number of quests you can do. They also increase crafting costs and times. Basically they built in a bunch of artificial drags on progression that tend to make the game feel grindy.
agree 100 percent. There needs to be a conclusion for a play through. I can make it about 30 in game days before I start getting board and start over or move to something else for awhile.
I also really think that the game needs a category of uncraftable weapons and armour that can only be scavenged for in super high loot zones. Once you have gathered all of the materials in 7Days there is no point in going scavenging other than to get the skill books to actually craft the item you have had the materials for weeks. If there was a bunch of super rare but super unique one-off items to obtain it could feel worth going back out to scavenge with a goal of collecting them all in the end game.
i dont really care about anything with the game the only thing i mainly care about is optimization updates it literally needs it badly i have a 16GB ram brand new and i run at 20-40FPS on this poor game back in Alpha 21 i ran at 70-90-FPS they keep adding things and changing things thats all these devs do
Many survival games dont really have a "goal", its how the game genre is made. If you are looking for a game with endings then you shouldnt really go playing survival games. Ye there are a few that have an ending, but these are just very few like the forest or minecraft (although your game isnt over in minecraft, after you kill the dragon you just continue playing).
The devs did say in the forums that a story mode connected to the trader quests will be coming in another major update though.
I playing with friends (3 in total), we made lika an agreement that our "end game" after which we will start from the bottom will be our base being not playable after horde
They should definitely go back to the idea of creating behemoth-like zombie that could be met only at t5 POI in wasteland as a final boss.
They should add or rework POIs that are not made in dungeon-like style on which you pretty much have only one way to go (assuming we are not breaking anything) - It's not like I don't like these, I just don't like that 99% of them are like that. What I meant by rework (or adding new) is that to make them way more open, with several entrances and already opened doors so you can explore the POI more freely.
Rebalance the amount of experience gained from killing zombies, some of them clearly should be worth more (even tho we already have that, but I mean... it still should be better than that).
Change the way zombies are spawned and triggered, I don't like the fact zombies spawn in POI after the player gets close enough, sometimes we may try to make a noise and no one is coming, but once we move a bit further/deeper, the zombies spawn.
The way they are triggered in trap-like style at the end of POIs is silly, you can't really open any container there, cuz it will wake them ALL up... even when you are sneaking.
I miss the filling of hiding from them from back in Alpha 2... or so (aprox 10 years ago), They worked so different back then.
A bit more randomly roaming zombies in cities, not just 2-4 randomly spawned, becase PLAYER IS NEAR, I am talking about gathering zombies here and there even in very early stage of the game and these we should avoid, sneak past them or turn back and run away.
Since we are at the idea of having roaming zombies in cities like that, obviosuly... optimalization is still very much needed.
They shouldn't remove possibilty to wear regular clothes I think it was nice (even tho almost unnecessary).
They should add radiation, not only at the edge of the world, but in some random places and POIs, some hazmat suits that would actually come in handy (and some new drugs).
Aside from zombies, since this apocalypse clearly ended up with bombing the world, nuclear weapons were also used, so... some more mutated things aside from zombies (I am not talking about making it like fallout, buuut a bit of it should be there...).
They should definietly go back to the 90s style, I am not a fan of making all these things more "up to date", I though that this apocalypse started somewhere at the end of 80s or beginnning of 90s, but now... all the clothes updates, zombie skins, destroyed cars on the streets and some random places, they are starting to look more and more like 2000-2010, we can even find laptops in POIs now...
The things like laptops could perhaps only by found at some secret military bases and/or bunkers, where they could have it, cuz you know what they say, if we have some new technology avaiable for people, military probably had it 20 years ago...
My "finish" condition was collecting a full hazmat suit. That suit and a gyro was what I pretended I needed to get past the radiation zone at the world border. I cant even do that in 1.0 because they removed clothing.
The new 1.0 update definitely made the game easier. I got all the legendary gear and stopped playing even before unlocking tier 6 quests. I have decided to try Darkness Falls now, at least I heard this mod is way harder and has way more content so it wouldn`t be as boring as vanilla.
I have no problem with the open-endedness myself, but can understand how it's unappealing for some.
I'd like to see a storyline but it has many different endings. Reputation and factions could play a role and affect prices in different vendors or even close of vendors depending on their allegiance or if they are blackmailed into not working with you.
I'd also like to see NPC survivors since in zombie movies, TV shows and books it's the other humans that are the most dangerous. Safety in numbers but these NPCs can double cross you taking your stuff, lead you into an ambush of humans, or they even try to kill you out of nowhere. You can also kill them.
Maybe they can add some interactivity to map. POI's has icons and when completed it add check mark on it. This can be nice goal for some completionists. Or put real legendary (named?) in the game - ARPG's legendary items hunting style 😀
I believe they have an idea of what they want the "ending" to be, The Story with Noah and the Duke, but haven't fleshed this out. In the meantime, I just start upping the difficulty, horde numbers/frequency, and as you stated mods.
Naw, they're obviously just winging it. They don't have any clear vision which should be obvious because of how they just change up the character progression once or twice a year.
If that was the story they should’ve done something with it before moving to full release. Maybe not full story but something
man what if they added the ability for hordes to destroy your weapons, or boxes of loot. like when a air drop comes the zombies appear only to destroy the crate once it lands and you have a certain amount of time to get to and save the crate before the time runs out. Then random hordes show up and they try to blow up your storage supplies or your bike and jeeps while trying to get to you. Yea that would keep you grinding.
I have always thought they should have a "slide bar" in the options to play sort of Own the World, where you pick as example 3,000, 5,000 or even 10,000 zombies and you have to hunt and kill them in the world your in so you can have a world without Zombies when you kill them all. At lease there is a goal of killing everything and cleaning up the world.
I just played now 63h with a Friend and reached now on the day 75 and i have the reached everything. He let me build a durable Horde base and now i can build a normal Base, so i do now and reached everything. Okay i can search for new POIs but its very easy, we put now the difficulty to 4 so i hope it will be harder so more dangerous and intense :D
For me as a ps player there is one good thing in 7 days.
That is the split screen mulyplayer, and then play with friend and familie and get some bets on live the longest , build the best base.
Help out ore sabotage the other player , and Just have fun
It can?! I need to do that!
I’d like to see certain items only located in certain spots around the map rather than random, like an assault rifle can only be found at an army base and the LMG can only be found in the end loot of a really difficult army base. I’d love to see a military vehicle and an army helicopter located in specific bases around the map too that you really have to fight hard to get. Maybe trucks that can carry more loot can be found in the basement of big POI’s. Give us reason to explore the map other than just for accumulating items that we probably already have.
I'm still a "console peasant" (can't for the new console version to drop).
I tend to get bored after 40 to 50 days (I play 120 minute days)
I feel (on the Alpha 15 console version) the early days are the most fun, or at least the most challenging.
Like you said, once I got my base set up, got my farmplots going, things tend to get a bit repetitive.
Don't really need to loot every single POI, as good on most stuff.
I have played around 2000 hours and love the game, but a lack of endgame or final goal has been it's Achilles heal for a long time
There's so many small things they could do that would improve the game, sadly since I owned the game all they have done is take things out of a game that's already lacking
I think they missed an opportunity on the Biome changes why not have a setting where each biome increases the toughness of the enemies and having a unique enemy in each biome and in the final biome all of them can spawn in the hoard which is locked behind a quest we can call it the final hoard.
tier 6 and giving horde nights qol and a difficulty update, with new mechanics and ai changes easy
I'm not impressed by the skill system updates in 1.0. Having to get skill books rather than being able to skill up through leveling (recipe access) is brutal for my play style. I'm shocked more people aren't complaining about it.
I agree a end game goal to work towards would be nice, They could even have multiple end game goals, For instance one scenario could be... we see the Air drops so we know there are possibly country's who have not been taken over by the infection or have found a cure, The goal could be to find codes and special maps that eventually lead you to a secret underground government transport system, That is untouched by the infected and is the place that will lead to your safe escape, but you have to clear out a small section 1st that is over run by "boss" type zombies (These Zombies were the people who were planning to make their escape on the transport system but failed dew to some people being infected and then all hell broke loose) Once you clear the area you use the code to the system that unlocks the large highly reinforced security gates to let you in, once in, a cut scene plays and the credits roll
Totally agree about the lack of end game goal. Would be really cool if there were large goals that could be accomplished maybe every 10 days. Personally, I get totally bored around day 35-40 and rarely play past 42.
my issue is they added books to read and removed many zombies from cities....now the thing is it was supposed to be a zombie game not a reading game i tried 1.0 bored on day 3 logged have not looked back. oh and still no bandits if more books get added im afraid bandits may never come
idk, survival games don't usually have end goals, I'm aware some do but most people that play survival games aren't playing for that reason.
I felt the opposite for the forest, the game had a storyline but the survival aspect was just there and not needed especially the base building.
7dtd suffers the same problem as zomboid but has similar early/mid game
some sort of "raid boss" would go a long way with multiple levels of difficulty and exclusive rewards
I don't care about an end-game goal, I care that there's no lore. Why am I doing jobs for these traders? And why do the same traders appear in multiple towns? Who is Noah, and why do I owe him money? How come he never actually collects it? What happened that turned people into zombies? What are the blood moons? Why does it make zombies attack a base? (Not mine, I play with blood moons off) Why do zombies turn feral at night? Where is the government? Where are the other survivors?
These questions and more are what bothers me.
The server I play on (tronics) has mods with mini bosses, end game quests & items...etc :)
What I do is each time I play, I give myself a new goal... Lol I play till I complete it.....
Can wholeheartedly agree with what you said. You might add a PvP system that is actually fun to play to what the game is lacking - something a bit like the system in Rust..
we need some bosses or something like that.
My biggest issue is the front sights and rear sights are not aligned.
Bro same.
My guess is it was done like that so you can see around your gun better but I would prefer proper sight alignment too
@@jacoba1429 With comically large front sights that look like it can generate enough lift if you run too fast? I don't think so. I think TFP just don't know guns which is fair but the sight picture belongs to cursed gun images.
I always assumed there would be a bandit boss and a huge zombie boss somewhere.. .and also there is taking down the Duke of Navezgane himself. These are pretty obvious goals that they will more than likely add in without too much thought at all.
Have a certain amount of days (wich you could set in the options) where you have to survive and upgrade yourself up to the point you can escape, or find some rescue chopper (maybe by trader quests?) before time runs out and the place would get nuked.
Maybe add it as an gamemode.
I got a feeling if there is going to be an endgame boss it will be the zombie behemoth it was in the files in alpha 15-16 but never made into the game but if they going to do a boss fight I bet it will be that
yea, I do think the game need more to the end goal.. cause Yea it gets boring with the constant looting, build an base, Survive horde night, Rinse and repeat.
That's when when I do like an playthrough or just play normally I only go to 50days.. I find it boring to do the same thing over and over especially in an game that can be really buggy sometimes. some of the problems being...
Zombie get speed boost when ''Stumbling'' Or hitting you without an animation.. or AI not going where they should go, too many storms happening, the Dark lightning whenever you're inside an building when the storms rolls around.
But yes.. we need an end goal in the game or an real story line to follow. would make the game so much better.
my dream is that one day they combine 7 days to die with satisfactory! At the end of the story mode you end in up space and find yourself on another planet(satisfactory) where you must harvest resources to take back to earth to rebuild it!
The Duke storyline is coming. Other than that, I think we can leave it to the modders. I really hope from now on mods will not continuously be broken by complete remakes of the same game over and over.
In another year or two.. or three.. when Im finally at the, "ok, i need something more to do now" point in my in-game life..
If they wanna expand on this already glorious looking game (that I'm personally Finally getting my console/Ive had the dead version for what seems like Ever/hands on..)
I'll be pretty excited with a story mode.
Or even just a big bad that you "can" face if you want to.. like Minecraft.
They should just add monsters around the map like zombie hybrids
"WHERE ARE MY BANDITS? EH FUN PIMPS!!!"
The fact that most worlds and saves are broken anyway after a couple dozen ingame days makes it almost pointless to work towards any real endgame stuff. You'll loose it anyway sooner or later.
Darkness Falls story and bosses were pretty neat, if you actually made it that far and the game didn't break before you got there.
mods carry the game for me a lot by altering the game in terms of weapons, wandering hordes and such as story as well. Im sure FunPimps working on a lot of stuff but my biggest thing is the blocks you can craft is extremely overwhelming with how much there is and what actually is worth using. Love the game and hope fun pimps will keep up the good work they have been doing over a decade now lmao
End game is definitely lacking.
There is no end game.
The gameplay loop gets old at day 28 or earlier. Not enough guns and weapons. Blade progression ends at the machete? That's like 2 hours of gameplay to get a machete. Armor is the same. I like the loot system and building is okay, albeit clunky. I just need more variance.
You start a new game again. That´s what is to do. Bad for public servers, but let´s be honest here, the majority plays SP, a lot are playing in private with friends only and there it is no problem to just restart. Public servers are a minority. And a lot of them are already modded so they don´t have that problem. Or you build something huge. Story is well known to only be added very shortly before the game is finished, we know that for years. And if all planets align in a certain way while we perform a ritual at both poles, we might see bandits some day....
They should be adding up an Infinite World option.
You should be able to play as a zombie that levels up and can mutate into stronger and stronger zombie types. 😂
But yeah, it would be fun to have a story and big zombie bosses.
I will add my 2 cents here
First voxel games are not easy to develop, I think that many developers after they start go " ohhh sh#te, what have I got myself in to? " however they happen to be some of the games with most replayability , you name it, Minecraft, Vintage Story, Empirion galactic , they have a few things in common, like the way you can build or destroy buildings, terrain, contraptions, that brings me to the second part, on how easy is to MOD the game and have an incredible thriving group of people that bring new and great ideas to the table, change options, textures, sound you name it, is like porn if you can imagine it someone has already filmed it .
Yes the FP have been at time slowwwww as molasses in bringing new things to the table, or the worst they have been accused , of not listening to their supporters and fan base, but every new instance the fps are better, the game is better optimized, new pois are added, others are redone, yes the weather cycle is pathetic, and less not talk about the water mechanics, that to me are a wasted opportunity since it could be a new biome with water specific zombies and the possibility of underwater structures, boats, dungeons, or they could create a jungle biome with swamps and other creatures.
Personally I don't care much as long as they don't mess up the modding community all is cool.
The third thing that voxel games bring to the table is that you can choose what game options you like, # of enemies, weather, loot re spawn, air drops, horde night or not etc etc.
Here me out: Final boss is a x2 size Mr Reach, duel welding M60s in each hand and spits pipe bombs 🙌
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Yea I feel yea there there's no storie line or true quests but then again it's a sandbox game that only has lore as a backstory with nothing else it's still a great game just a huge missed opportunity on making a true one of a kind
I think following through with what sub storyline that is already there would help greatly. Treasure maps and buried supplies that really means other survivor's were hiding thing from other people not the zombies there could be so much more to that alone.
Or yes I would like to know what caused poeple to become zombies.
And traders why do we have a bunch of people who like to stay held up in there compounds and trade goods with the only single person left in the world (insert sub storyline and here funpimps!)
Come on it's the reason I stop playing after about day 35 I'm just done by then.
What if the player is in a simulation that has zombies the player finds a way out of the simulation and finds out that he or she is not the only ones stucked in that world for study and research
Westworld?
For me, as a console player, they need to fix the bugs before adding more. Even if they don't add anything on PS4, could at least fix the issues it currently has.
PS4 is not 7dtd. That is 7 days of Telltales death. That version has not been supported for years since it is not TFP property.
@@minisithunknown5568 And this changes my point of view, how? Yes 7 Days is getting an update on PS5. But not PS4. I know that. But the question in this broadcast stream is our opinions on what we would like to see happen to improve 7 Days. And for me, as a PS4 console player, I'm fine with how the game is, just needs to run more smoothly. Get the bugs fixed. Will they do that? That wasn't the question asked. No I doubt they will. Would I like to see it, of course. No big demands from me as a console player of 7 Days, just fix what they currently have. Do I care who currently owns it? Not one bit.
the only problem of this game is "made by TFP"
Hey Mr. Reach I was wondering if you are finding the game easy? LMAO. Honestly Cant wait for it to go stable and we get to see you and RJ start building castles again. Cheers
another big problem is that it's a game for baby; survival side" barely inexistant, difficulty, most player play at best bellow warrior, whithout feral sence.It's a good arcade game for quick fun that it.
No end game goal, no content, just artificial time gates to slow down veteran players.
Only survive and explore is good for me. 😊
duke coins are made in forges with brass now on your server thats why he had loads i expect and im not bothered having an end game that will be in navezgane map at some point with the duke and stuff
There is supposed to be end game ( duke and his henchmen ) you will be able to kill them or join them. Do not know time line but it is cumming.
No, it's not.
do you mean coming? 😅
Hi I would like to see a end game like get the Duke and cure the zombie plague. now I have been playing for a little here over 6000 hours so I have seen the game change over the years but and ending to work for would be great. as this doesn't seem to be a MMO where you try to take over the world just my look at it love this game lol keep fighting every one one day who knows we might beat these zombies.
Yes I'd like to REACH an end game point ;)
They was before, ,not a lot will remember but they jugernaut zombie, npc, a radioactive city.
Spoiler alert: 1.0 is just A22. The game isn't actually out of alpha. There indeed is still the story with its quests in the pipeline. And endgame will likely be to wipe out one of the factions.
Apart from that: Nah, it doesn't really need an endgame. Sure, it will eventually get one. But I got a thousand or so hours in the game over quite a few comebacks with some years pause in-between. I know when I'm done with a playthrough. I don't need someone to tell me.
Also, this game is a long-tail game. It will still be relevant in a decade because it's the first in it's niche. Other games miss multiplayer, 3D, base-building, the destructible voxel world or the hundreds of handmade POIs.
I will likely keep coming back once in a while and just play some casual 7 Days To Die on a random public server like i do now.
The Answer is mod the zombies with big health pool I play on a server with brilliant end game content for there server, it's BS this 1.0 update without mods
I think it’s ridiculous how cpu and ram heavy the game is after 10 years of development, no one should have to endure sub 30-40 fps in big locations it makes late game a sloth to play through unless you have a nasa supercomputer which not many people can afford. It sucks as the game is brilliant and I have 1000+ hours played
Never needed and end game. You become unkillable and then you start a new game or you gather all the skills to max then start new game. I do not see a need for and end game. I just like to play.
No! 7 is not perfect! Ugh! The f*g pimps are TROLLS! (Nothing like finding that cooking pot just after you bought one)
What keeps me playing is the survival (food/water/zombies) & tower defense (best be ready every 7 days) aspect. I’ve played 128 days without dying & the game froze on 128! I’m sure that’s not a record, but it’s my best. I’m trying to see if I can beat 128. Trying to max out my level & game stage. Completionist goals like get every book, Tier 6 completion for every trader (not a thing anymore, I realize), maxing out skills & collecting the best gear. Getting all the vehicles. That kind of stuff.
We have yet to meet the Duke.