Drones or manned aircraft carrying drones have some interesting capabilities. Eyes under the weather, eyes at a standoff, get more eyes out there. Lots of cool stuff going on behind the scenes.
Gonky just figured out how to defeat stealth fighters. A 4 gen fighter carries enough drones to neutralize the F35 missiles. Then it gets in close for a merge then there goes the F35 in a ball of flames.
Not sure it would really work that way. We don't know how good the sensors are, but I wouldn't be surprised if they're good enough to identify a specific target and to guide a missile to that specific target while ignoring any clutter. I would think the biggest issue with deploying lots of and lots of drones surrounding a manned aircraft is the possibility of colliding with one.
I would think that the way to handle these would be with directed energy weapons. They're going to be small and they're probably designed to be cannon fodder. Missiles will likely need to differentiate between targets. But I'm think they already do. At least modern focal-plane array IR missiles know the shapes of their targets.
The reason you need a drone carrier is because the drones small enough to get past all the air defense radar systems aren't big enough to travel as far as you want. With the advent of AI all you need is internal map reading software and an electro optical camera and a gyro to guide the drone to the target sans jamming. Low speed and close ground navigations will make detection damn near impossible. The 110million F-35B that crashed in SC.... for that one aircraft and pilot you can get 12 MQ9 Reapers that can each carry at least 8 switchblade kamikaze drones. For a cheap upgrade you can tether AI to the camera system to independently ID targets if the link is jammed. If you remember what I said on a different video..... enemy pilots wouldn't even get the chance to go airborne.... we would have all the options ... hit their airfield, their planes, their fuel depots, hit the pilots homes.... or the maintainers homes.... You cannot defend it all.
I don't believe a Reaper is that cheap. And they're not autonomous. Each one requires two operators with as much training as a pilot would get along with some really price base stations for the operators.
EW is the way of the future. The Marines a few years ago used EW to disable an Iranian drone during their Hormuz transit. The counter will be in the EW. There isn’t enough missiles in the entire US inventory to counter drones.
EW doesn't work if there is not comm link or at distance, or 100s of other reasons, the solution is to stop threatening countries with war when they become successful.
I just picture this thing loitering up at 50k feet just waiting to drop the drones which honestly wouldn't need to power themselves on if they're propeller driven until they glide for a while and get down to lower altitudes but if they're jet driven then they're already up in their efficient altitude at which they could probably go a lot further and faster. They might even be a hybrid more like a meteor missile where they have a rocket booster stage and then they go into jet power and at that point the fighters would really be in trouble. If the US could adopt this with the drones having an onboard computer that could read the incoming radar wave signal and then shoot it back at either the incoming missiles or the incoming fighters then the enemies would get a lot of better radar returns if they're meant to be a distraction for the fighters. China if you're reading this, please don't copy my idea lol
Anybody who wants to use drones as "missile sponges" has to make the drones at least look like a real threat worthy of engaging with a missile - otherwise the drones just get ignored. That means each drone needs a certain minimum level of capability, which translates to size and expense, which means fielding fewer of them. Not to the point that it's not a threat, but it's fundamentally the same as any other kind of decoy.
In Ukraine war we have seen such drones are already here years. All the 1000's and 1000's western tanks, armored cars ifv's were reduced quickly to piles of steel by drones. Including the heaviest tanks sent by the west with just one hit.
And it's not difficult to make them. All you need is a guidance system, a small turbofan or turbojet engine and some emitters that can give off regular frequencies. They're certainly more cheaper to make than missiles or jets for sure
Depending on the president and rules of engagement you might not be allowed to shoot the mothership or attack the runway. For example look how we force Ukraine to try to intercept all of Russia's drones and missiles after they are launched...
Oh god not an EDI, BUT thatd be a cool way ti see things go. Artificially augmented intelligence or something, but when she went rogue that shit was scary. Lol dont unshackle the ai..... be cool to someday have dudes on the ground fighting with a robot thats uplinked to the AI of an aircraft so they can share info to ground forces quicker. The future is now, old man 😬
I think drone swarms could be just as dangerous as a FOD hazard. Think bird strike but with heavy electric motors. Put up a wall of them at the shoreline and take out a whole strike package. But somehow the planners will still use the same ingress point and altitude day after day. 😮
The US needs a Carrier based squadron of small economical fast aircraft like the A4 skyhawk who's only mission is to intercept and gun down drones and what the Scooters don't get the ships can use million dollar missiles on
Overcapacity will overcome your strategy. You need to build forcefield that will not let anything penetrate your ship's and aircraft but then you woke up from your dream.
Mover is the only one with real experience in fighting drone carriers because he's watched Ace Combat.
Nice Arsenal Bird.
Ace combat wasn't silly after all
What about a drone carrier that carries another drone carrier that’s full of drones.
Yes, 100% for Jessica Biel.
Drones or manned aircraft carrying drones have some interesting capabilities. Eyes under the weather, eyes at a standoff, get more eyes out there. Lots of cool stuff going on behind the scenes.
The scary part is not the drone carrier itself, it's the fact that they're starting to come up with these advances way before us.
Gonky just figured out how to defeat stealth fighters. A 4 gen fighter carries enough drones to neutralize the F35 missiles. Then it gets in close for a merge then there goes the F35 in a ball of flames.
Not sure it would really work that way. We don't know how good the sensors are, but I wouldn't be surprised if they're good enough to identify a specific target and to guide a missile to that specific target while ignoring any clutter.
I would think the biggest issue with deploying lots of and lots of drones surrounding a manned aircraft is the possibility of colliding with one.
Just wait drone carrier carrying drone that also will carry drones on them.
I would think that the way to handle these would be with directed energy weapons. They're going to be small and they're probably designed to be cannon fodder.
Missiles will likely need to differentiate between targets. But I'm think they already do. At least modern focal-plane array IR missiles know the shapes of their targets.
The reason you need a drone carrier is because the drones small enough to get past all the air defense radar systems aren't big enough to travel as far as you want. With the advent of AI all you need is internal map reading software and an electro optical camera and a gyro to guide the drone to the target sans jamming. Low speed and close ground navigations will make detection damn near impossible.
The 110million F-35B that crashed in SC.... for that one aircraft and pilot you can get 12 MQ9 Reapers that can each carry at least 8 switchblade kamikaze drones. For a cheap upgrade you can tether AI to the camera system to independently ID targets if the link is jammed.
If you remember what I said on a different video..... enemy pilots wouldn't even get the chance to go airborne.... we would have all the options ... hit their airfield, their planes, their fuel depots, hit the pilots homes.... or the maintainers homes.... You cannot defend it all.
I don't believe a Reaper is that cheap. And they're not autonomous. Each one requires two operators with as much training as a pilot would get along with some really price base stations for the operators.
EW is the way of the future. The Marines a few years ago used EW to disable an Iranian drone during their Hormuz transit. The counter will be in the EW. There isn’t enough missiles in the entire US inventory to counter drones.
EW doesn't work if there is not comm link or at distance, or 100s of other reasons, the solution is to stop threatening countries with war when they become successful.
EW will lead to more AI so that decisions are made on the drone not refereed back to the human
I just picture this thing loitering up at 50k feet just waiting to drop the drones which honestly wouldn't need to power themselves on if they're propeller driven until they glide for a while and get down to lower altitudes but if they're jet driven then they're already up in their efficient altitude at which they could probably go a lot further and faster. They might even be a hybrid more like a meteor missile where they have a rocket booster stage and then they go into jet power and at that point the fighters would really be in trouble. If the US could adopt this with the drones having an onboard computer that could read the incoming radar wave signal and then shoot it back at either the incoming missiles or the incoming fighters then the enemies would get a lot of better radar returns if they're meant to be a distraction for the fighters.
China if you're reading this, please don't copy my idea lol
Anybody who wants to use drones as "missile sponges" has to make the drones at least look like a real threat worthy of engaging with a missile - otherwise the drones just get ignored. That means each drone needs a certain minimum level of capability, which translates to size and expense, which means fielding fewer of them. Not to the point that it's not a threat, but it's fundamentally the same as any other kind of decoy.
In Ukraine war we have seen such drones are already here years. All the 1000's and 1000's western tanks, armored cars ifv's were reduced quickly to piles of steel by drones. Including the heaviest tanks sent by the west with just one hit.
And it's not difficult to make them. All you need is a guidance system, a small turbofan or turbojet engine and some emitters that can give off regular frequencies. They're certainly more cheaper to make than missiles or jets for sure
Love Wombats thoughts YAWNNNNN . be safe all
Wombat the voice of reason. No yawns here😂
Lasers and ecm. I think a missile will always be more expensive than a drone
Depending on the president and rules of engagement you might not be allowed to shoot the mothership or attack the runway.
For example look how we force Ukraine to try to intercept all of Russia's drones and missiles after they are launched...
Nightmare of ground units.
How about a drone carrier for SEAD missions?🤔
starcraft carrier omg
Oh god not an EDI, BUT thatd be a cool way ti see things go. Artificially augmented intelligence or something, but when she went rogue that shit was scary. Lol dont unshackle the ai..... be cool to someday have dudes on the ground fighting with a robot thats uplinked to the AI of an aircraft so they can share info to ground forces quicker. The future is now, old man 😬
How much did it cost for that raptor to shoot down the weather balloon?
This is going to lead to better long-range optical sensors and discriminating algorithms to ID threats.
Algorithmic engagement comment.
Yo dawg, I heard you like drones, so I put drones on your drones, so you can fly drones on your drone.
If people don't think the might of the military industrial complex can't figure out how to deal with some chinese drones, you're nuts.
Look everyone, here’s a smart guy😂😂😂
You want to see drones? You think you have seen drones in Ukrn. You haven't see nothing yet on a overcapacity scale. Lol
I think drone swarms could be just as dangerous as a FOD hazard. Think bird strike but with heavy electric motors. Put up a wall of them at the shoreline and take out a whole strike package. But somehow the planners will still use the same ingress point and altitude day after day. 😮
If they're small, then directed energy weapons might be able to take them out. Several countries have them in the testing stage.
The US needs a Carrier based squadron of small economical fast aircraft like the A4 skyhawk who's only mission is to intercept and gun down drones and what the Scooters don't get the ships can use million dollar missiles on
Overcapacity will overcome your strategy. You need to build forcefield that will not let anything penetrate your ship's and aircraft but then you woke up from your dream.