Great job "Truckies"!!!! Reminds me of the guys that backed up my Engine Co. They could open a roof almost as quick as it took us to get water on the fire.
I have been retired from the fire department since 96 there has been a lot of changes over time. Now I don't think I have ever seen yellow smoke from a fire, can someone explain why? Or what causes that.
Some types of insulation and plastics offgas like that. There are many different possible things that could have contributed to the color but it most likely was a form of a synthetic polymer or a petroleum product as I said before as I've seen it much more frequently in recent years too in our world of changing tech and increasingly dangerous fireloads.
@@Critt42 Political? It’s safety and health issue. It’s freaking 2020s and there are people who think breathing fire gases is a matter of opinion. Cancer culture.
@@lottnio8207 ..I’m not disagreeing with you about the health hazard . I’m simply saying it’s a lot easier without that pack on doing the job of a roof man. That’s a fact. I’ve seen people with masks on walk off roofs, so we can argue the safety issue here also.
@@Critt42 People need to train to walk with masks. That’s basics. Like wearing mask is a basic thing to do. Even wearing masks firemen have greater risk of cancer because carcinogenic water soaks through but not wearing a mask when there are gases is suicidal. Don’t firemen have any (even basic) training or safety protocols to follow in the USA?
@@lottnio8207 . Our training is in my opinion the best there is. And we train while working also. Everyday. Training prepares you as best it can for actual work, with safeguards obviously. Men have died training because it’s still risky as is the job. You say ‘train to walk with masks’ as if it’s a cut and dry thing. Well it’s not. We train in full gear. In a real fire unfortunately, things are dynamic and constantly changing. The more fires you go to the more experience you get. You learn from your peers and you see what works and what doesn’t work in your area. Wearing a mask on a roof in the rain at 3 am and operating power tools when the fire is below you may seem ‘cut and dry’. But you’d be wrong to think that. We all want to go home and we all want to avoid getting sick years later. We get paid for the risk we take and we try to keep ourselves safe but at the end of the day we have a job to do and we have to do it quickly. Monday morning quarterbacking from a video is easy to do.
Hey I am new to the fd and watching this helped me grasp the concept of venting, and so I thank you. Do you have any tips for me to help me out later in the future?
couple things Joshua use your pike pole to find weak spots that will cause you to fall through specially on flat roofs those are the most deceiving. 2 when working on a roof of any type be aware of your surroundings like electric lines over roof heavy air units cave faster than anything cause of weight. Watch for the feed head for electric they can shock you very quickly. If you wanna cool a fire room real fast use a semi fog pattern out a window it will also draw out the smoke. You can also use a ventilation fan turned backwards to create a draft inside the structure to clear heat and smoke. use a ventilation fan also to blow the fire back the same direction it was coming from to get a good handle on it quickly.
In a typical Philly row home we sometimes "cut the barge board." If fire was impinging on the roofline from below, there is a good chance that it lit something inside the void space between the wall and the roof. You cut back a little to expose this space to check for flame, burnt wood, embers, and also to help ventilate. In this case the brown color of the smoke meant that some of the structural members were burning so we cut back to make sure the fire hadn't traveled up the wall and along the roofline.
bro doesnt have structural gloves on lol rocking the extrication mittins. no packs, old school. we're all gonna get cancer from the job in 20 years anyway
Well at the rate he's going be less then 20. No excuse, my father was a fire fighter before proper PPE came out and even when it did they never ware it and I've seen what it can do to you without it. So there is no excuse now since they have better PPE.
@@timmer5021 it’s a bad SOP. If I remember right without going back and watching that guy tried to say they were on scene several times but couldn’t key up. What if there was a mayday? She talked for a minute straight in the beginning of the video
If there was a mayday it would come to the FCC from the BC’s aid over radio via the incident commander, and there would be a warble tone over all bands for everyone on the fire ground.
The only thing all that work accomplished is unnecessarily risking the lives of the children, I mean Firefighters, who thought they were actually accomplishing something up there. The fire is on the floor below. Put it out and then open the ceiling. That is basic common sense and logic. Oh and, where's your SCBA? Mature, Responsible and Professional! Right!
@@jesseosada4690 Don't waste my time. Not one of those links will explain how VVing works without using Heat Rises. They will show how to cut holes and Say it works, that's it.
@@jasonwolfe6266 The only people who use the word Troll are trolls. How do I know, because you didn't tell me where and how I am wrong. A grownup would have.
Great job "Truckies"!!!! Reminds me of the guys that backed up my Engine Co. They could open a roof almost as quick as it took us to get water on the fire.
Excellent videos, keep these coming!
Top notch video!
I have been retired from the fire department since 96 there has been a lot of changes over time. Now I don't think I have ever seen yellow smoke from a fire, can someone explain why? Or what causes that.
Wondering that myself...
Insulation smoldering
I retired off Engine 45 in 90
@@TheIcetemp 50+ years and never noticed it...but I was with Engine Companies...
Some types of insulation and plastics offgas like that. There are many different possible things that could have contributed to the color but it most likely was a form of a synthetic polymer or a petroleum product as I said before as I've seen it much more frequently in recent years too in our world of changing tech and increasingly dangerous fireloads.
Hi Jesse, it’s Tony, Devon’s dad. I met you at his wedding. Great videos, stay safe and be careful.
Wow the firefighters really put themselves in harms way. The height made me dizzy. Thank you P.F.D. members.
Why is nobody on air?
Little different on the roof . And please don’t get political about it.
@@Critt42 Political? It’s safety and health issue. It’s freaking 2020s and there are people who think breathing fire gases is a matter of opinion. Cancer culture.
@@lottnio8207 ..I’m not disagreeing with you about the health hazard . I’m simply saying it’s a lot easier without that pack on doing the job of a roof man. That’s a fact. I’ve seen people with masks on walk off roofs, so we can argue the safety issue here also.
@@Critt42 People need to train to walk with masks. That’s basics. Like wearing mask is a basic thing to do. Even wearing masks firemen have greater risk of cancer because carcinogenic water soaks through but not wearing a mask when there are gases is suicidal. Don’t firemen have any (even basic) training or safety protocols to follow in the USA?
@@lottnio8207 . Our training is in my opinion the best there is. And we train while working also. Everyday. Training prepares you as best it can for actual work, with safeguards obviously. Men have died training because it’s still risky as is the job. You say ‘train to walk with masks’ as if it’s a cut and dry thing. Well it’s not. We train in full gear. In a real fire unfortunately, things are dynamic and constantly changing. The more fires you go to the more experience you get. You learn from your peers and you see what works and what doesn’t work in your area. Wearing a mask on a roof in the rain at 3 am and operating power tools when the fire is below you may seem ‘cut and dry’. But you’d be wrong to think that. We all want to go home and we all want to avoid getting sick years later. We get paid for the risk we take and we try to keep ourselves safe but at the end of the day we have a job to do and we have to do it quickly. Monday morning quarterbacking from a video is easy to do.
Don’t understand guys getting off the truck … going to work without an air pak on their back , forget about not masking up . Just doesn’t make sense
If you're not going in you don't always need it. (i.e. roof/ov work)
Hey I am new to the fd and watching this helped me grasp the concept of venting, and so I thank you. Do you have any tips for me to help me out later in the future?
couple things Joshua use your pike pole to find weak spots that will cause you to fall through specially on flat roofs those are the most deceiving. 2 when working on a roof of any type be aware of your surroundings like electric lines over roof heavy air units cave faster than anything cause of weight. Watch for the feed head for electric they can shock you very quickly. If you wanna cool a fire room real fast use a semi fog pattern out a window it will also draw out the smoke. You can also use a ventilation fan turned backwards to create a draft inside the structure to clear heat and smoke. use a ventilation fan also to blow the fire back the same direction it was coming from to get a good handle on it quickly.
You develop the learning curve (been there done that) we will learn from that.
What’s the why behind that cut? I’ve never seen that tactic before.
In a typical Philly row home we sometimes "cut the barge board." If fire was impinging on the roofline from below, there is a good chance that it lit something inside the void space between the wall and the roof. You cut back a little to expose this space to check for flame, burnt wood, embers, and also to help ventilate. In this case the brown color of the smoke meant that some of the structural members were burning so we cut back to make sure the fire hadn't traveled up the wall and along the roofline.
bro doesnt have structural gloves on lol rocking the extrication mittins. no packs, old school. we're all gonna get cancer from the job in 20 years anyway
Well at the rate he's going be less then 20. No excuse, my father was a fire fighter before proper PPE came out and even when it did they never ware it and I've seen what it can do to you without it. So there is no excuse now since they have better PPE.
I am not scared of heights but being that close to the edge at 7 minutes is not the most comfortable feeling for me.
Yea but if you’re a fireman, If someone is trapped there then you can only think about them and not that!!!
does that dispatcher just love the sound of her own voice or what
Just Philly SOP...you get use to it like any other
@@timmer5021 it’s a bad SOP. If I remember right without going back and watching that guy tried to say they were on scene several times but couldn’t key up. What if there was a mayday? She talked for a minute straight in the beginning of the video
@@bktenn29 I may be wrong but I believe onscene companies are on separate tac channels. I believe what we're hearing is dispatch/response channel.
If there was a mayday it would come to the FCC from the BC’s aid over radio via the incident commander, and there would be a warble tone over all bands for everyone on the fire ground.
Terrible saw. The best saw on the market is from Sthil. The fire rescue saw model 461. That roof should have been open.
I agree it is terrible, but we have to work with what the city gives us
They shouldn't have even been up there. Nothing was accomplished or needed to be accomplished.
@@jesseosada4690 stilhl saws suck
Eat that yellow smoke!
The only thing all that work accomplished is unnecessarily risking the lives of the children, I mean Firefighters, who thought they were actually accomplishing something up there. The fire is on the floor below. Put it out and then open the ceiling. That is basic common sense and logic. Oh and, where's your SCBA? Mature, Responsible and Professional! Right!
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ventilation_(firefighting)
www.firehouse.com/operations-training/article/10497482/back-to-basics-ventilation-techniques-for-flat-roofs
www.firefighternation.com/firerescue/venting-a-flat-roof/#gref
www.firefighternation.com/firerescue/a-quick-review-of-type-3-construction-associated-fire-danger/#gref
www.fireengineering.com/firefighting/cutting-triangular-inspection-holes/#gref
www.firerescue1.com/fire-products/ventilation/articles/vertical-ventilation-a-firefighters-ladder-to-roof-guide-shezGumWxQoJFSKU/
fireengineeringbooks.com/fireground-strategies-third-edition/
@@jesseosada4690 Don't waste my time. Not one of those links will explain how VVing works without using Heat Rises. They will show how to cut holes and Say it works, that's it.
He didn't even check to see if the roof was stable before walking across it. Even if their is no fire under it still could be in bad shape.
@@JB91710 go troll somewhere else you have no clue what you're talking about
@@jasonwolfe6266 The only people who use the word Troll are trolls. How do I know, because you didn't tell me where and how I am wrong. A grownup would have.