Totally agree on the shine, gloss and so on being subjective. Everyone sees paint differently. I think that liquid waxes “polish” the paint a little more since the application is done with a microfiber pad by hand or polishing pad on a DA. But I’m finding the spray on sealants and waxes to be way more durable!
I have the newer Adam's ceramic spray that comes in bottle like the liquid. I did full detail on my truck. Strip wash, iron remover, wash and alcohol cleaned and then put the spray on and let it cure for 5 hours inside. My truck sits outside a bit and after about a month the hydro properties just seemed to disappear. Was kinda let down due to how expensive it is. Have been a Adam's lover for awhile, but not sure anymore
It could be the Adam's sio2 coating (picture spiderweb) "pores" are clogged if you will. Try doing a gentle clay and iron remover again and a pH neutral car wash and see if in the final rinse the hydrophobic are back.
Jimbo, enjoy your shows. I am a Maguire's fan. I like paste waxes. After that, I find the spray assortment adds extra protection that is easily applied more frequently. If you are serious about the condition of your paint, try good paste wax applications and then for general maintenance use sprays. This will really extend your paste waxes and beautify your finish.
Water beading = water spots. Sheeting is what products should revolve around. Just because something it’s beading doesn’t mean it’s still not protecting.
I tried the non pro ethos ceramic wax, I’m not sure if there is a real difference. But it said 10-15 minutes dry time. Which I did and it was a huge pain to get off.
It all depends on the climate in your location. If you’re in a place that’s humid then you should cut the time. If you’re in a cool place then yea wait the 10 mins..
Jimbo, have you had a chance to try Wowo’s Crystal Sealant? It would be nice to see a torture test with Crystal Sealant, TW seal n shine, TLC2, and ExoForma’s Ceramic Shield for lasting protection base coat
A little off topic, but even after applying a lot of these products, why after washing with foam cannon and soap (I used chemical guys maxi suds) it seems all protection is lost? Water sticks on the panels and seems all is lost.
Dangit! I just bought a bottle of Adams liquid wax because someone said it's perfect for white cars. It gives the white paint more depth. Guess I have to top it with TW hybrid solutions ceramic coating to try and get it to last longer 😕
Look for skinny brushes that are long and thin to work the fabric. In one hand I hold the crevice tool in another I continously scrub and try to catch all the flying debris. More than anything is repeating the process over and over in several directions. Tedious but having a good arsenal of stiff brushes to fit on different areas helps immensely more than crevice tool alone. I don't have access to air compressor so I work with what I can
Quick question, hopefully you get a chance to respond, but without a good protection coat is it better to hand dry or use a blower? I dont have an actual blower for vehicles, I just use my gas powered or electric leaf blower but still end up with spots. There is not a good coating on either of the vehicles I wash. I need to get them polished up but will have to wait until after my 4th hip replacement surgery lol.
Jimbo, can you do a review on The Rag Company Wowo's Show Stopper? Supposed to improve gloss like no other product! It looks GREAT, just would like to see it head to head with something similar or on it's own. Thanks in advance!
I was just thinking about this. I used to love adams because their product line was so simple. One detail spray, one shampoo, etc. Now they are starting to get like chemical guys with a confusing product line. I just placed an order from ethos - trying their shampoo and seal and dry (hoping that is going to be like adams old guard and gloss). I love how simple their product line is. Thinking about getting their ceramic coating kit, but I might try this wax first.
Hi what do you recommend for a dodge durango 2019 grey. Want a nice shine. And also have a blue corvette not sure if I would use the same wax or a different wax for that.
Xtreme Solutions lvr 403 top it with poly seal, or any sealant of choice. Ph neutral soap when needed. For quick detailer/waterless wash specifically when you want a nice pop in gloss for that day, ethos defy is a great topper with super slick finish and buttery smooth and easy application. Here's a demo of the combo. Acrylic base plays well with anything, does a bit of filling to boot. ruclips.net/video/69VYiwUBplE/видео.html
good vid, Mr.Jimbo - but how about a new segment, Homemade vs Commercial Grade - I bet my homemade IPA mix will do as well vs store brand (my mix: 100 ml IPA + 200 ml distilled water + 1/2 tsp ONR) 😄
Lets think about this.. how many people are going to do this to their car?? this testing says nothing about being able to withstand NATURAL weather and atmospheric assaults on the panel tested.. heat, cold, mud, snow.. those are the kind of elements that need to be shown to test the products effectiveness in protecting.. all you showed is that it took one chemical to kill the Adam's side of the panel, and three to finish off the Ethos side.. I like your videos but your testing methods are inaccurate to be nice about it.. if you put the product on and the paint lasts through 12 standard washes, you have at least somewhat proven the effectiveness over a years worth of washes (once a month)..
Let me tell you, water beading/hydrophobic properties don't define a product. ethos leaves behind a shine even after it fails. (mine failed cuz i got a bad batch) -- tim with ethos is taking care of it
ph0bolus good question. I didn’t. I applied it to a perfectly prepped car and it failed after 2-3 weeks. I was baffled. So I contacted Tim with ethos and he claimed I had a bad batch.
Daniel C. ///Fusso coat wich will actually last a year, has high contact angles meaning the beading abilities are absolutely crazy, fusso coat is even said to have better and higher contact angels then some ceramic coatings, Collinite 845 wax last about 4 months and has way better beads and the durability to go with it, sonax polymer net shield 6 months durability, high temp paste wax last towards the 6 months range crazy beading, all the products I listed are lower then 30$ on amazon offer more protection and have nicer beads and there’s a lot more, where at the age that if your spending 40$ and up on a sealant you’re getting ripped off.
I’ve used all those product you mentioned and side by side they do not compare to Ceramic Wax PRO. Russo Coat attracts dust like crazy and is a pain to use, PNS beads extremely well but is not very durable nor slick. Collinite fogs up, attracts dust like crazy, and does not have the durability or protection for a long term sealant. Yes, PRO is certainly more expensive, but our clients love the richness, gloss, dirt repellency and slickness that is really unmatched. RUclips chemical testing does not paint the whole picture, highly recommend people trying products for themselves before jumping to conclusions.
Tim Coats I’m not knocking ur product and i respect you defending it but your products beads aren’t the best the durability isn’t the best and price surly isn’t the best now I respect your response but those where examples your product is still over priced for what is does, you can take that how you want to take
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Have you ever thought about doing a video on how well a professional grade true ceramic coating would stand up to the same torture test?
Ian Birkett Action Media agreed
Totally agree on the shine, gloss and so on being subjective. Everyone sees paint differently. I think that liquid waxes “polish” the paint a little more since the application is done with a microfiber pad by hand or polishing pad on a DA. But I’m finding the spray on sealants and waxes to be way more durable!
Try griot's garage 3 in 1 ceramic wax its a beast onr detailing king
Miranda Detailing so true. Once you get defects out and polish a good sealant then spray what ever you want
I have the newer Adam's ceramic spray that comes in bottle like the liquid. I did full detail on my truck. Strip wash, iron remover, wash and alcohol cleaned and then put the spray on and let it cure for 5 hours inside. My truck sits outside a bit and after about a month the hydro properties just seemed to disappear. Was kinda let down due to how expensive it is. Have been a Adam's lover for awhile, but not sure anymore
You're better off with turtle wax or even a meguiars product. If you're looking for decent protection.
@@ashishpatel350 I've been using the turtle wax spray on some other vehicles and it seems to be holding up very well
Same
Here man. Used this stuff and don’t last long
It could be the Adam's sio2 coating (picture spiderweb) "pores" are clogged if you will. Try doing a gentle clay and iron remover again and a pH neutral car wash and see if in the final rinse the hydrophobic are back.
Jimbo where do you get those spray bottles from? (The gray sprayer one)
Let's get some of those wowos products they claim there iron remover smells great
Jimbo, enjoy your shows. I am a Maguire's fan. I like paste waxes. After that, I find the spray assortment adds extra protection that is easily applied more frequently. If you are serious about the condition of your paint, try good paste wax applications and then for general maintenance use sprays. This will really extend your paste waxes and beautify your finish.
First we had carnuba, then Minton wax, now it’s ceramic everything , next year graphite
Lol you right
Next up will be iridium
Water beading = water spots. Sheeting is what products should revolve around. Just because something it’s beading doesn’t mean it’s still not protecting.
Another Great video Jimbo! Happy New Year to you!
Thanks
Great video.
As a suggestion, could you test AvalonKing Armor Shield IX against CarPro CQ. UK 3.0?
Finally a good compression. I got the Adam's ceramic liquid wax in a surprise box and no one has used it till now
F
Compression???
great product and comparison video again jimbo. b well.
Actually Amazon now discounts these products considerably and the Ethos is cheaper then the Adams.😉
I tried the non pro ethos ceramic wax, I’m not sure if there is a real difference. But it said 10-15 minutes dry time. Which I did and it was a huge pain to get off.
It all depends on the climate in your location. If you’re in a place that’s humid then you should cut the time. If you’re in a cool place then yea wait the 10 mins..
Jimbo, have you had a chance to try Wowo’s Crystal Sealant? It would be nice to see a torture test with Crystal Sealant, TW seal n shine, TLC2, and ExoForma’s Ceramic Shield for lasting protection base coat
I haven’t. I need to pick some up
JIMBO'S DETAILING can’t wait to see it! Enjoy watching your videos!🤘
Lets see some Shine Supply Clutch and Shine Supply Daddy-O
Was just about to comment that!
I'd love this.
And Shine Supply Cherry too.
Daddy-O only lasted 45 days with me. 3 washes and it was done. Wasn’t impressed
Detailing Breakdown did you wash with ph neutral shampoo?
How did you prep the panel?
I’m pretty bomb about the shelf life of this product since it only requires so little to apply of it . 6 months after the seal is broken
try wowo's falloout remover you'd be amazed about the fresh scent when spraying it
Love what you do brother.....
Thank you
Quick question, would you ceramic coat a classic car that really only comes out for shows and Sunday cruises. Or would you just wax/seal it?
Wax is the best looking protection, so use a wax. If it’s light color or pearl, use Carnuba. If it’s dark or metallic, use synthetic
A little off topic, but even after applying a lot of these products, why after washing with foam cannon and soap (I used chemical guys maxi suds) it seems all protection is lost? Water sticks on the panels and seems all is lost.
It might be that soap
@@autodetailingpodcast is there a soap that's not so aggressive that you reccomend?
Use ethos car shampoo it will not strip waxes and sealants
I would like to see how these waxes compare when they are layered. Or maybe just the impact of layering in a torture test. Thanks! Awesome Video!!!
Dangit! I just bought a bottle of Adams liquid wax because someone said it's perfect for white cars. It gives the white paint more depth. Guess I have to top it with TW hybrid solutions ceramic coating to try and get it to last longer 😕
KenitoElGrande you could top with Ceramic Boost to stay in the family.
@@chiroguy98 True, but I already have the Turtle Wax bottle on my shelf. I'll try this combo and see how it goes.
Jimbo great job buddy
Thanks
Can you see if these products and future ones will stain black plastic?
Think that it's even says on the Ethos Ceramic Liquid Wax Pro to not use it on the plastic trim. Don't know about the Adam's one though.
Great video! How does this ethos wax compare to ethos resist, in the looks department and durability?
You can use both. The wax and then the resist after .
Hey Jimbo, can you teach us the secret to vacuuming/cleaning the tiny crevices in the seats, on the floor, etc. my kids are slobs.
A crevasse attachment on the vacuum will be a life saver
I get that but what do you do when even the crevice tool is too big to fit? Compressed air?
Ya air works really well
Look for skinny brushes that are long and thin to work the fabric. In one hand I hold the crevice tool in another I continously scrub and try to catch all the flying debris. More than anything is repeating the process over and over in several directions. Tedious but having a good arsenal of stiff brushes to fit on different areas helps immensely more than crevice tool alone. I don't have access to air compressor so I work with what I can
Quick question, hopefully you get a chance to respond, but without a good protection coat is it better to hand dry or use a blower? I dont have an actual blower for vehicles, I just use my gas powered or electric leaf blower but still end up with spots. There is not a good coating on either of the vehicles I wash. I need to get them polished up but will have to wait until after my 4th hip replacement surgery lol.
I blow try to about 90% then hit the car with a final wipe down
@@autodetailingpodcast thank you for the reply!!!
I'm dishing all these hybrid sio2 for carnuaba waxes. Once these ceramic products go wrong, it affects adversely the paint.
I used the Adam's and it didnt even hold up to soap and water. And I used a wax safe soap.
Jimbo, can you do a review on The Rag Company Wowo's Show Stopper? Supposed to improve gloss like no other product! It looks GREAT, just would like to see it head to head with something similar or on it's own. Thanks in advance!
Ethos on sale today nov 4 2022 at Amazon $16!!
Turtle wax for president!
I have ethos ceramic ...
Adam's polishes seems to have lost its way ...
Now I only buy the car shampoo .
I was just thinking about this. I used to love adams because their product line was so simple. One detail spray, one shampoo, etc. Now they are starting to get like chemical guys with a confusing product line.
I just placed an order from ethos - trying their shampoo and seal and dry (hoping that is going to be like adams old guard and gloss). I love how simple their product line is. Thinking about getting their ceramic coating kit, but I might try this wax first.
Hi what do you recommend for a dodge durango 2019 grey. Want a nice shine. And also have a blue corvette not sure if I would use the same wax or a different wax for that.
Xtreme Solutions lvr 403 top it with poly seal, or any sealant of choice.
Ph neutral soap when needed.
For quick detailer/waterless wash specifically when you want a nice pop in gloss for that day, ethos defy is a great topper with super slick finish and buttery smooth and easy application.
Here's a demo of the combo. Acrylic base plays well with anything, does a bit of filling to boot.
ruclips.net/video/69VYiwUBplE/видео.html
Can you try out a Feynlab ceramic spray sealant. I’d like to see what it could hold up yo compared to these other name brand products
No
collinite 845 better than boath without claiming being ceramic.
These are two completely different items. How can you even compare. One is not even ceramic coating but wax.
They’re both liquid waxes with ceramic resins. Neither are ceramic coatings
Even after the bleach ethos still sheeted water better than adams
Ethos vs HydroSlick? Or do you already know?
ruclips.net/video/IkjhAdahomQ/видео.html
@@timcoats1767 thank you
good vid, Mr.Jimbo - but how about a new segment, Homemade vs Commercial Grade - I bet my homemade IPA mix will do as well vs store brand (my mix: 100 ml IPA + 200 ml distilled water + 1/2 tsp ONR) 😄
I don't like anything from adams
Great video!
turtlewax shine and sealant beat both of these and half the price
Seal n shine still reigns.
Truth
Seal and shine sucks In the Florida heat. It’s last maybe 3 weeks.
I can’t believe seal and shine still the best chemical resistant
Trick folks.. stick with Adams.. should not have to trick to prove point
Lets think about this.. how many people are going to do this to their car?? this testing says nothing about being able to withstand NATURAL weather and atmospheric assaults on the panel tested.. heat, cold, mud, snow.. those are the kind of elements that need to be shown to test the products effectiveness in protecting.. all you showed is that it took one chemical to kill the Adam's side of the panel, and three to finish off the Ethos side.. I like your videos but your testing methods are inaccurate to be nice about it.. if you put the product on and the paint lasts through 12 standard washes, you have at least somewhat proven the effectiveness over a years worth of washes (once a month)..
People will spray strong chemicals to remove things like bugs easier.
I really wanted Ethos to do better than this.
Let me tell you, water beading/hydrophobic properties don't define a product. ethos leaves behind a shine even after it fails. (mine failed cuz i got a bad batch) -- tim with ethos is taking care of it
@@henryfreeman6113 how would one know if they received a bad batch or not?
ph0bolus good question. I didn’t. I applied it to a perfectly prepped car and it failed after 2-3 weeks. I was baffled. So I contacted Tim with ethos and he claimed I had a bad batch.
You did not tell the age & condition of the vehicles. Further, Contamination should have been removed before applying waxes.
Jombo,how that we never sow you do a tests on Proje products? 🤪
Sasha Gilgur right. Haha. I really was to see their stuff from his honest perspective
Honestly those beads ain’t shit😂 there’s so many other products that bead better it’s not my opinion it’s the truth. Love the video doe
Which ones did you find bead better than these two?
Daniel C. ///Fusso coat wich will actually last a year, has high contact angles meaning the beading abilities are absolutely crazy, fusso coat is even said to have better and higher contact angels then some ceramic coatings, Collinite 845 wax last about 4 months and has way better beads and the durability to go with it, sonax polymer net shield 6 months durability, high temp paste wax last towards the 6 months range crazy beading, all the products I listed are lower then 30$ on amazon offer more protection and have nicer beads and there’s a lot more, where at the age that if your spending 40$ and up on a sealant you’re getting ripped off.
@@jayzayas3425 Appreciate it! Thank you!
I’ve used all those product you mentioned and side by side they do not compare to Ceramic Wax PRO. Russo Coat attracts dust like crazy and is a pain to use, PNS beads extremely well but is not very durable nor slick. Collinite fogs up, attracts dust like crazy, and does not have the durability or protection for a long term sealant.
Yes, PRO is certainly more expensive, but our clients love the richness, gloss, dirt repellency and slickness that is really unmatched.
RUclips chemical testing does not paint the whole picture, highly recommend people trying products for themselves before jumping to conclusions.
Tim Coats I’m not knocking ur product and i respect you defending it but your products beads aren’t the best the durability isn’t the best and price surly isn’t the best now I respect your response but those where examples your product is still over priced for what is does, you can take that how you want to take
Yeet
Adams LOL I guess you get what you pay for!
Stay away from Adams 100%
Jim can you do Gary deans stuff. Would love to see how his stuff stacks up. ??