Finaly somone has made a KIT. So many people converting but not offering a kit that can be shiped to a customer. Down to earth explanation that make me want to get my bank card out.
Yep, we saw the gap in the market and went for it! Trying to make it as easy as possible for people to install. Thanks for your kind comments, we work hard on these videos
Yeah nah I understand it’s a lot of work and is plug and play but I was expecting something in the 25k ballpark. I hope the price will drop in few years as the battery price will
Why is the HV in black conduit? this is very counter productive as it should be easily recognisable to anyone working on the vehicle including emergency services.
Fabulous product and given the money I'd have one in a flash. There's the rub though, the cost has to come down to make evs more affordable rather than being a niche product. This isn't a comment on Electric Car Converts who are doing a great job but rather on the current state of the industry. Progress is being made though so keep up the great work.
This is an amazing kit and absolutely what I want to do for my old 90. It’s still out of my price range, but hopefully with new battery tech it will be cheaper to do in the future.
Your comment at 6:53 is much appreciated. The fact that there are no secrets is amazing. I did want to ask if you have a way to convert VWs to EV with a tesla small rear drive motor and then the rest of what is needed to power and cool and connect. I am doing a 1970s dune buggy conversion and the battery cases need to be custom made front and back and mine is a full DIY build. Can you help?
You're welcome, no need to hide things in this industry! We started as DIYers so we get it.. Yes we have done a couple of VW's in the past, I would recommend using the Model 3 rear drive unit over the SDU though as it much more efficient and modern. Yes we can help with battery boxes.
@@electriccarconverts thank you so much for the reply! And the advice. Watching you and Louis go through his battery packs was also very sweet and educational. I'll reach out again when we have a plan in place. Do I just reach out through the website or back here again?
Looks good; great idea to insert all the needed know-how into a plug-n-play kit. You mentioned in the video how you solved the handbrake-problem. What about the hydraulic brake system, and its vacuum booster? Is it MOT approved? Thanks for your answers!
The brakes have either a 12v vacuum pump in them, which turns on when the servo needs a vacuum. It's also possible to do this with a Tesla Ibooster. You use the brake pedal very rarely though, as the regen of the motor does braking for you. Yes it's MOT and DVLA approved.
On this build we swapped the TD5 throttle for a TDI one (which is the same size so bolts into the original holes) but we're currently developing away to use the original TD5 throttle potentiometer instead.
Great conversion! Hope the price comes down somewhat 😉 So I ditch the original gear box and intermediate box. Do I get diff-lock also? I probably don't need low and high anymore, right? I have an 1985 110, with drum brakes in the rear. Should I do the conversion to disc-brakes on forehand?
this is absolutely brilliant! well done to you and team! will you be offering bits of this kit rather than the whole thing? thinking likes of the battery box system and motor with converted gears could be used in my Grand Wagoneer?
Thanks for that! We're certainly happy with how it has come out. Yes we can supply parts, you'd probably only need the battery box (+ the charger etc mounted to it) and the motor, the rest will have to be custom made for your vehicle (mountings etc)
@electriccarconverts how difficult would it be followng a 55 kwh conversion to go to the 110 kWh at a later date. Would provision need to be made during the initial conversion? Also if the donor Land Rover has had a replacement galvanised chassis (Marsland or Richards) could that pose a problem? Thank you....Edit just watched your latest video and you answer the question about adding the second battery at a later date😀
Hi, our systems are upgradable to the 110kWh if you already have the 55kWh system. All the mounts are already there so that it can be added quite easily. The only thing to take note of is that we don't want to do it years and years after your first 55kWh goes in, because the front batteries will degrade a little and then not be in perfect sync with the second battery pack. If it was the case that you wanted to do it a long time down the line, we would replace the modules in your front box too, so in essence a full new battery pack. No probs at all re a replacement chassis, in fact our workshop jig chassis is a Richards.
Will you be doing 110 kits? I have been trying to find a Disco 3/4 EV conversion. Vs a Defender (Which I love) they have, more space, more elbow room, more comfort etc.. and you can pick up a 'blown engine' Disco for 10% of the cost of a Defender! Prime Untapped market with endless potential. IMHO
Hey Chris, yes we've made a series kit, but the series really don't need 300hp and limiting one seems a waste of money really. The series kit video is coming out next week, it uses a 120hp motor and 26-44kwh battery pack.
There should be loads of these businesses popping up. If only people weren’t worried about the batteries and the price of them. As soon as that tech advances y’all are going to be ridiculously busy. Would be awesome to convert a classic. Probably will be the real status symbol of the future, do you drive yourself in an electric classic or are you being driven in a new public transport Tesla taxi.
This is really good and it has been perfected. but for £55,000 that's too much for an EV conversion kit. I believe there is a cheaper and equally impressive Kit to be developed and we can make that happen for less than £10,000
Half the cost of the £46k is probably due to the Fellten Battery pack. Even if battery costs drop by half or more this is still at least a £30-35k kit. If you want quality right now with relatively low volume this is unfortunately the price you need to pay. I think over time if a target cost is about £25-30k that would be a great price point for more to enter in to the EV conversion scene. A £10k or less kit might be possible in about 10 years.
Yes Im sure we can make that happen, less as a kit but if we bought it into the workshop we can make the modifications we need to our kit. Please send me an email on barnaby@electriccarconverts.com
Currently, EV conversion kits are too expensive. When they get the prices to an affordable level, I would consider it. However, range is still not there. Maybe someday.
We don't believe that range needs to be too big, it makes the kits more expensive and the weight becomes an issue. For long journeys most of our clients have another car!
@@electriccarconverts That's a relief to hear! Otherwise I would've sold it as an ICE. The plan is to convert it to EV after the 6x6 conversion, with Electric Car Converts, of course. ECC has a 3 year waiting list, do you have availability in 2024? Or am I better off buying this kit and having it installed professionally by someone else? I want the max range and bhp.
Sounds like that will be a super special build - probably the only EV 6x6 in the world. Yes we have availability from Jan 2024 so just let us know when you're ready. We churn out an EV landy every 2 weeks so our waiting list doesn't usually become too long. @@Mr_ZeroFuel
Why ruin a perfectly good classic car? The original can drive a lot longer without having to fill up. Quite useless car with this conversion. Why not just buy a Tesla or some other junk car.
I don't think clients are buying these cars to go the furthest distance they possibly can! A light aircraft can go even further on the same amount of fuel, so why don't we all just go around in Cessnas?
Finaly somone has made a KIT. So many people converting but not offering a kit that can be shiped to a customer. Down to earth explanation that make me want to get my bank card out.
Yep, we saw the gap in the market and went for it! Trying to make it as easy as possible for people to install. Thanks for your kind comments, we work hard on these videos
Absolutely has got to be the best explanation of how it works and fits in, now if they can only make one for my 1992 Chevy 1500.
Thanks for the support! I think the majority of this kit would work, especially component wise. It's just the mounting system that would be different.
Even I dont spend £46 grand on diesel! Fair play to you for making the kit though........a lot of skill went into that
It's certainly more for the cool factor an eco-friendly factor than for a cost saving!
Yeah nah I understand it’s a lot of work and is plug and play but I was expecting something in the 25k ballpark. I hope the price will drop in few years as the battery price will
What a clean setup! Congrats!
Thanks!
This guy deserve an award🎉 finally I come u to this RUclips channel that explains how it works, are this conversation kits buyable?
Yes our kits are for sale worldwide!
This has to be the most straight forward conversion system for defender. Fantastic work!
We like to keep it simple, just like the Defender is! No need to make things too fancy! Thanks for your support :)
Do you expect prices to come down in the future? Because here in Australia that works out the same price as two new Model 3 cars?@@electriccarconverts
Fabulous product! Definitely the way forward. You deserve to have huge success with these kits
Thank you Kevin, appreciate that!
Why is the HV in black conduit? this is very counter productive as it should be easily recognisable to anyone working on the vehicle including emergency services.
Fantastic! I'd love a kit like this for my D2 (they can be pride-and-joy's too!)
Fabulous product and given the money I'd have one in a flash. There's the rub though, the cost has to come down to make evs more affordable rather than being a niche product. This isn't a comment on Electric Car Converts who are doing a great job but rather on the current state of the industry. Progress is being made though so keep up the great work.
Absolutely fabulous! Bravo!
Thank you! Cheers!
Love this for my '59 Chevy Pickup!!! Looks like a fantastic kit!!!
Everything is possible!
This is an amazing kit and absolutely what I want to do for my old 90. It’s still out of my price range, but hopefully with new battery tech it will be cheaper to do in the future.
You're right, it's all down to the battery tech being expensive!
Great kit. Can AC be designed In? Also DCtoDC can it run a 12V Winch?
lovely bit of kit, wish I could afford that! Maybe in the future!
Thanks a lot!!
Awesome !
Maybe a kit for my old GWagen will be available eventually ??
Your comment at 6:53 is much appreciated. The fact that there are no secrets is amazing. I did want to ask if you have a way to convert VWs to EV with a tesla small rear drive motor and then the rest of what is needed to power and cool and connect. I am doing a 1970s dune buggy conversion and the battery cases need to be custom made front and back and mine is a full DIY build. Can you help?
You're welcome, no need to hide things in this industry! We started as DIYers so we get it.. Yes we have done a couple of VW's in the past, I would recommend using the Model 3 rear drive unit over the SDU though as it much more efficient and modern. Yes we can help with battery boxes.
@@electriccarconverts thank you so much for the reply! And the advice. Watching you and Louis go through his battery packs was also very sweet and educational. I'll reach out again when we have a plan in place. Do I just reach out through the website or back here again?
Looks good; great idea to insert all the needed know-how into a plug-n-play kit.
You mentioned in the video how you solved the handbrake-problem. What about the hydraulic brake system, and its vacuum booster? Is it MOT approved? Thanks for your answers!
The brakes have either a 12v vacuum pump in them, which turns on when the servo needs a vacuum. It's also possible to do this with a Tesla Ibooster. You use the brake pedal very rarely though, as the regen of the motor does braking for you. Yes it's MOT and DVLA approved.
But a td5 doesn't have a cable throttle. It's a potentiometer one. Pre td5 did have cable throttle. So do you change the pedal to an earlier one?
On this build we swapped the TD5 throttle for a TDI one (which is the same size so bolts into the original holes) but we're currently developing away to use the original TD5 throttle potentiometer instead.
Great conversion! Hope the price comes down somewhat 😉 So I ditch the original gear box and intermediate box. Do I get diff-lock also? I probably don't need low and high anymore, right? I have an 1985 110, with drum brakes in the rear. Should I do the conversion to disc-brakes on forehand?
this is absolutely brilliant! well done to you and team! will you be offering bits of this kit rather than the whole thing? thinking likes of the battery box system and motor with converted gears could be used in my Grand Wagoneer?
Thanks for that! We're certainly happy with how it has come out. Yes we can supply parts, you'd probably only need the battery box (+ the charger etc mounted to it) and the motor, the rest will have to be custom made for your vehicle (mountings etc)
When I get to that point in the build I’ll give you a shout.
Well done!! If my TDI ever dies, You will be my 1st call.
Looking forward to it! Although probably the best engine in the Defenders surely it will go at some point right?!
😂 enjoy the Diesel
Did you mention what motor controller you are using?
Any plans to have an Evoque Generation 1 EV conversion kit ready any time soon? Thanks
Is the Tesla motor AC current ?
@electriccarconverts how difficult would it be followng a 55 kwh conversion to go to the 110 kWh at a later date. Would provision need to be made during the initial conversion?
Also if the donor Land Rover has had a replacement galvanised chassis (Marsland or Richards) could that pose a problem?
Thank you....Edit just watched your latest video and you answer the question about adding the second battery at a later date😀
Hi, our systems are upgradable to the 110kWh if you already have the 55kWh system. All the mounts are already there so that it can be added quite easily. The only thing to take note of is that we don't want to do it years and years after your first 55kWh goes in, because the front batteries will degrade a little and then not be in perfect sync with the second battery pack. If it was the case that you wanted to do it a long time down the line, we would replace the modules in your front box too, so in essence a full new battery pack.
No probs at all re a replacement chassis, in fact our workshop jig chassis is a Richards.
I rather expected the high voltage lines to be orange - I can see that they are in flexible conduits, but still...
Yes - seems to go against the golden rule of keeping everything HV very obvious.
Orange Conduit is available!
Will you be doing 110 kits?
I have been trying to find a Disco 3/4 EV conversion. Vs a Defender (Which I love) they have, more space, more elbow room, more comfort etc.. and you can pick up a 'blown engine' Disco for 10% of the cost of a Defender!
Prime Untapped market with endless potential. IMHO
Yes, this can certainly happen! Get in touch and we can discuss!
Planning a series kit using the same battery and motor?
Hey Chris, yes we've made a series kit, but the series really don't need 300hp and limiting one seems a waste of money really. The series kit video is coming out next week, it uses a 120hp motor and 26-44kwh battery pack.
What does this conversion cost? Where do you get a nice lookimng series III like that?
There should be loads of these businesses popping up. If only people weren’t worried about the batteries and the price of them. As soon as that tech advances y’all are going to be ridiculously busy. Would be awesome to convert a classic. Probably will be the real status symbol of the future, do you drive yourself in an electric classic or are you being driven in a new public transport Tesla taxi.
Hello where did you get the central transmission ? . because you can find front or rear driven. not found central transmission driven yet .
The transmission is built into the original tesla motor, we just change the gearing inside it.
Hi can get convertion kit for Toyota prado 120 2005 Hybrid
This is really good and it has been perfected. but for £55,000 that's too much for an EV conversion kit. I believe there is a cheaper and equally impressive Kit to be developed and we can make that happen for less than £10,000
Half the cost of the £46k is probably due to the Fellten Battery pack. Even if battery costs drop by half or more this is still at least a £30-35k kit. If you want quality right now with relatively low volume this is unfortunately the price you need to pay. I think over time if a target cost is about £25-30k that would be a great price point for more to enter in to the EV conversion scene. A £10k or less kit might be possible in about 10 years.
Unreal. Sold
We're in if you're in
Ok I now understand the throttle position ;)
Nice one ✅
Cheers Rob!
I have a 130 with a 2 inch lift,will your kit fit without further modification ,and what is the price in Australian dollars
Yes that's definitely possible, about $90,000 Australian
Will it fit my Range Rover Classic? (The most stylish Defender obviously! ;-) )
Yes!! In fact we have 2 in the workshop at the moment getting this same kit!
What happens to all the chassis wires that are specific to ICE?
They get taped up, or removed with the engine.
Can this fit in the pajero io
What happens if I live in Australia and most towns are 60 miles apart, need 2-3 times more range
Then you need a diesel!
Will this work on an Early Disco 1? Same frame So i figure yes. Let me know
Yes Im sure we can make that happen, less as a kit but if we bought it into the workshop we can make the modifications we need to our kit. Please send me an email on barnaby@electriccarconverts.com
Disco 1 chassis is the same as a classic Range Rover not a Defender.
Could you do something similar for a non LR mid-size SUV?
Yes definitely, the tech is all much the same.
Currently, EV conversion kits are too expensive. When they get the prices to an affordable level, I would consider it. However, range is still not there. Maybe someday.
We don't believe that range needs to be too big, it makes the kits more expensive and the weight becomes an issue. For long journeys most of our clients have another car!
if you need help with fusing the stock ecu with system i am happy to help, i do reverse engineering of automotive control units
Thats very kind, thank you! We actually just remove the ECU entirely as it gets sold with the engine.
Will this work for a 6x6 Defender? I’m currently having a 110 converted from 4x4 to 6x6.
Yes, no reason why not! It would be an absolute beast! We're considering doing a 6x6 as our show vehicle, that would make people stop and enquire!
@@electriccarconverts That's a relief to hear! Otherwise I would've sold it as an ICE. The plan is to convert it to EV after the 6x6 conversion, with Electric Car Converts, of course. ECC has a 3 year waiting list, do you have availability in 2024? Or am I better off buying this kit and having it installed professionally by someone else? I want the max range and bhp.
Sounds like that will be a super special build - probably the only EV 6x6 in the world. Yes we have availability from Jan 2024 so just let us know when you're ready. We churn out an EV landy every 2 weeks so our waiting list doesn't usually become too long. @@Mr_ZeroFuel
How does this affect the off road capabilities?
It makes the car significantly better off road due to the additional low down torque. Its still waterproof and 4wd.
How much for the kit, please?
£60k
www.electriccarconverts.com/pricing/
Can I convert audi Q7 with that kit?
Theoretically yes, but we won't take it on as we only deal with older cars. Tricking the other fancy Audi systems will also be a challenge!!
I want to convert my discovery 4 to EV
Great job but 46k is waaay too much for me.
Now if you guys can make kit for the p38 Range Rover that would be absolutely awesome!
Its of course possible if you want to commission us to do it!
It’s my dream to slap a kit onto a trailblazer one day
Sounds fun!!
What is the new wading depth that must be respected unless the battery gets flooded? ... and a whole new world just opens up
This kit is entirely waterproof, technically it could go underwater but I'll let you test that!
Nice kit but 46K is a killer, I could buy a low mileage Tesla for that. If I was a huge Defender fan I won't be trashing the original motor either.
Would this be okay for a mazda 2014?
No sorry, it will only fit Land Rovers.
A reliable Defender???!!!
You said it!
did you know he was drunk making that video
What a great way to waste your money!
Why ruin a perfectly good classic car? The original can drive a lot longer without having to fill up. Quite useless car with this conversion. Why not just buy a Tesla or some other junk car.
I don't think clients are buying these cars to go the furthest distance they possibly can! A light aircraft can go even further on the same amount of fuel, so why don't we all just go around in Cessnas?
Because the resto of us are willing to move forward, and leave you behind!
@@MKUltraDeltaDogoBack It is actually moving backwards. :D The first cars were electric. Then gasoline came along and took over the market.
nice to be nice😍