@@smashyrashy What Rich pointed out and y'all are downplaying is that the presumed battery price drop that would make EVs affordable never happened and this has seriously impacted the cost to convert an old car and deliver reasonable range. Copious Tesla module availability from folks crashing their $70-$100k luxury cars 10 years ago via Model S and then X seemed to be signaling a future where conversions would be as affordable as an engine swap using a target engine. But the cost of batteries has stopped dropping and the normalization of 250 mile range cars makes conversions look like really value since most of these conversions struggle to breach 120 miles range. That is a surprise for folks who were watching the conversion space carefully and watching for it to become a reasonable route.
@@karlInSanDiegothe price drop is stalling, but batteries are still getting cheaper, even if you aren't accounting for inflation. When accounting for inflation the price drop is even more apparent
What would be really cool is seeing a hybrid. We all know an electric motor is a superior drive unit, so why do hybrid cars keep connecting the gas engine to the drive train? I’d like to see an electric car with a gas generator to help power the batteries only, and not connected to the drive train.
When you said : but the audience doesnt have money for that. Boom, spot on. RUclipsrs very often forget where they came from or who their audiance is. People want relatable stuff, to fulfill their immediate dreams, not some distant fantasies. We want to feel like, we could kinda do it. Thanks for that mate.
Hey Rich, I just finished your book and it was great. I also got the audible version. It's always great to hear the story straight from the author. Keep on making the sausage.
The first time I learned about the kei cars I immediately thought they are the perfect vehicle for an EV conversion. This series is gonna be amazing! Also at least we finally got an explanation on why the C4 project died, 2 years after the fact
I love your stuff, Rich. The subtle humor of your delivery throughout especially. I even watch the ads for the comic relief. The build is great. I would not watch otherwise, but your production values rock.
I love the concept of EV conversion to extend the lifetime of an old vehicke. I hope there will be more standard off the shelf parts that are usable for conversion. Reusing a drivetrain from a wreck is more sustainable than throwing it out. But to have a reliable supply, we need new parts.
The solution to expensive conversions is to stop buying overpriced tesla stuff. The batteries are coveted by the home energy community so they're driving the prices way up. There's lots of groups online selling Tesla drive units at insane markups just because they did some basic bench testing on the thing but realistically they don't really fail unless they get the coolant seal failure which you can investigate pretty easily before buying something. Also the all in one controller solutions tend to be super expensive as well. I really wish open inverter was slightly more polished
Coveted by the home energy community? What is that referring to? If that's talking about home battery storage for off-grid then a Tesla battery makes absolutely no sense and hasn't in 10 years. 48v server rack batteries are way cheaper per kWh and all ready to go without messing with voltage differentials and BMS's
Yeah I agree. There needs to be more support for other motors and BMS systems. If I do an EV swap, its going to use a chevy bolt battery and EBAY tesla motors. Those can be bought for cheap.
Despite totally peeing on the dream of converting 2012 CTSV Wagon to EV? This is what makes your channel worth coming back to. Straight up, with a wealth of knowledge that you have spent sweat, time and tear$ to collect. Why tear$? Because I cry when I have to spend money ;)
I really enjoyed your book, Rich! Once things settle down and you can openly talk about Stevon you should do another book with all the stuff you couldn’t talk about. I’d buy it immediately.
Great job on the video Rich! Thanks for making it. I've always felt that an early '70s Opel GT would make a dope platform to EV convert. Dunno how much battery range you would get, but it would likely rip around corners.
Rich I started building electric vehicles and selling them in the late 70s. They've never been cost effective. You know it's a rich man's game. It's always been. It's will continue to be a rich man's game. But your totally going in the right direction to play with small cars but you should build hybrids. Front wheel drive gas engine and a electric drive rear axle. Using a welding machine as your electrical power. Charging batteries and the rear axle. So you could let the gas engine idle and still drive the electric rear axle off the ice engine voltage supply. A pickup would be great to use a old Miller machine in the bed linked via a pto or intermediate drive line with a centrifugal clutch so you can lock out the welding machine. at higher speeds.
Rich Ev conversions will be worth it once EV companies build or own their own Mining Companies or mining processes. I agree with you prices need to drop 150% before it will be cost effective and worth the range.
rich ive been following you for a couple years now. you are the man. thank you for your work and information. wish you the best. much love from northern florida
Great video and loved the “Periodic Table of Elements in Pictures” shower curtain. I didn’t buy your sponsors products but I have ordered the curtain off Amazon.
I know that a lot of people probably would’ve preferred that you do a conversion of I think people didn’t watch this one because you picked a Honda fit instead of like a Del Sol or S 2000, or an MR2 or something but I think this is far more unique and fun.
I generally hate electric vehicles, but one conseolpt thta o love is exactly this. The lotus formula on an EV. Simplify, Add lightness, save money. Its something american auto manufacturers have forgotten.
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whats on the top rack at 11:33? RX7? That 911?
@@williambarnett7518 it's his z06
From "Do You think WE could do an electric swap" 4:24 to "gave me this car, he really has no use for it" 6:33 ??
Challenge G&G to a BEAT OFF!!
Thank you for your truth telling, Rich, about the high cost of conversions, even for those who can do the work themselves.
If you can't do the math on parts cost and labor, you're not serious about an EV swap
I'm still waiting for the truth about what happened to Steven/Stevon. :)
Womp womp life is expensive nothing new
@@smashyrashy What Rich pointed out and y'all are downplaying is that the presumed battery price drop that would make EVs affordable never happened and this has seriously impacted the cost to convert an old car and deliver reasonable range. Copious Tesla module availability from folks crashing their $70-$100k luxury cars 10 years ago via Model S and then X seemed to be signaling a future where conversions would be as affordable as an engine swap using a target engine. But the cost of batteries has stopped dropping and the normalization of 250 mile range cars makes conversions look like really value since most of these conversions struggle to breach 120 miles range. That is a surprise for folks who were watching the conversion space carefully and watching for it to become a reasonable route.
@@karlInSanDiegothe price drop is stalling, but batteries are still getting cheaper, even if you aren't accounting for inflation. When accounting for inflation the price drop is even more apparent
Repect to you Rich for owning up about the Corvette, I really enjoyed the Mini you did. I agree absolutely about the high priced conversions.
The real budget build is an ebike conversion (when ebike episode rich??)
I agree, really appreciate the honesty and being genuine about everything.
Maybe you and Ben can race when it is done. A good old fasion Beat off.
Honda do a beat meet.
It’s strangely comforting hearing that same time lapse song in almost every episode where something is being built.
I live for that big rest in the tune!
I’m not there yet in the video and now I hear the music already in my head 😁
This is the shit I love to see on Rich Rebuilds!
Honestly, I’m not really into EV conversions, but the way Rich does it I’m down for more of this!
What would be really cool is seeing a hybrid. We all know an electric motor is a superior drive unit, so why do hybrid cars keep connecting the gas engine to the drive train? I’d like to see an electric car with a gas generator to help power the batteries only, and not connected to the drive train.
When you said : but the audience doesnt have money for that. Boom, spot on. RUclipsrs very often forget where they came from or who their audiance is. People want relatable stuff, to fulfill their immediate dreams, not some distant fantasies. We want to feel like, we could kinda do it. Thanks for that mate.
And the Beat goes Ohm...
hahahaha... Dad joke of the day!
That clever 😂
Wait, wait, wait, wait. Rich is a Trini? 🇹🇹 Well look ting... 😁
Is vacationing in Trinidad or is he a Trini?
@@dvbrookshe said he’s “in the motherland” which implies….
Mangos are love.
got me scared for a sec there bro
Ent look trouble now
Hey Rich, I just finished your book and it was great. I also got the audible version. It's always great to hear the story straight from the author. Keep on making the sausage.
The first time I learned about the kei cars I immediately thought they are the perfect vehicle for an EV conversion. This series is gonna be amazing!
Also at least we finally got an explanation on why the C4 project died, 2 years after the fact
Or any old european car, those little nuggets make for awesome city cars with personality
If only there was a Rich rebuild type guy in Japan
You're in Trinidad 🇹🇹🇹🇹 cool, would be great to meet you in person. I really enjoy your content.
I love your stuff, Rich. The subtle humor of your delivery throughout especially. I even watch the ads for the comic relief. The build is great. I would not watch otherwise, but your production values rock.
Rich a Trini??? Ohhhh snap!!! 🇹🇹
His mother
Sweet :-)
WHAT?! You're a fellow Trini?! '0:04 🥳🇹🇹👍🏾
Dude, you're Trini? You should electrify a dollar van!🤣
😂
HILARIOUS
I was just thinking the other day that a kei truck conversion might be cool as a novelty. A kei car like the beat is definitely more practical.
Kei vaaaaannnnn?
@@timothyhoneycutt3895 wdym more practical? More fun sure but practical?
@@TheSalPicMy new dream car is a Mitsubishi Bravo EV.
That thing will be a ripper!! Awesome video!
Very good idea to leave all the wiring in place until sure you wont need any of the connections later. :)
Working on a beat ev conversion in California currently! Awesome. Can't wait to see how you do yours.
I love the concept of EV conversion to extend the lifetime of an old vehicke.
I hope there will be more standard off the shelf parts that are usable for conversion.
Reusing a drivetrain from a wreck is more sustainable than throwing it out. But to have a reliable supply, we need new parts.
I knew it. When I heard your Mom's accent I had a feeling you had trini roots. If you're still in Trinidad, would love if you had a meet up.
I find the trickiest part of any conversion is all the outlier systems such as heater, AC, accessories, BCM, etc. Love your content!
Honda Beats are awesome! If only we could put them back into production :) :)
These super budget conversions are so much fun to watch!
Excluding the labor obviously I know you guys are pros at this point
The solution to expensive conversions is to stop buying overpriced tesla stuff.
The batteries are coveted by the home energy community so they're driving the prices way up.
There's lots of groups online selling Tesla drive units at insane markups just because they did some basic bench testing on the thing but realistically they don't really fail unless they get the coolant seal failure which you can investigate pretty easily before buying something.
Also the all in one controller solutions tend to be super expensive as well. I really wish open inverter was slightly more polished
Nissan leaf motor is a bit cheaper. Cheaper again is a chinese motor and controller. Not fast but vastly cheaper than Tesla.
Coveted by the home energy community? What is that referring to? If that's talking about home battery storage for off-grid then a Tesla battery makes absolutely no sense and hasn't in 10 years. 48v server rack batteries are way cheaper per kWh and all ready to go without messing with voltage differentials and BMS's
@@Channel-gz9hm Man tell that to all the people making diy Tesla power walls forking out $1500 per module without batting an eye :(
Yeah I agree. There needs to be more support for other motors and BMS systems. If I do an EV swap, its going to use a chevy bolt battery and EBAY tesla motors. Those can be bought for cheap.
This is the intersection of two of my favorite things: EV conversions and the Beat, cool!
i have not forgotten about the model D
rich
That’s a Steven and Joshua project and Rich not talk about them
and neither has the EPA. he did a video explaining that the EPA squashed that because of emissions
@@bradhaines3142 ...must have missed that one where he explained the letter was just a troll
@@klarusboy yet we havent seen anything about the model D since, is it really a troll then?
@@bradhaines3142 i refer you back to my original comment?
2:10 that's why I got a 2013 P85 Model S with free supercharging ;)
What a cool project. Looking forward to part 2. 😎
Despite totally peeing on the dream of converting 2012 CTSV Wagon to EV?
This is what makes your channel worth coming back to.
Straight up, with a wealth of knowledge that you have spent sweat, time and tear$ to collect.
Why tear$?
Because I cry when I have to spend money ;)
It'll be golden to see Rich lurking in my hometown area in Quinam (via Siparia). 🇹🇹🥳🥰👍🏾
I'm happy to see another EV project. I may not ever be able to afford an EV, sadly, but I enjoy watching videos about them.
Great!! Another start of a build that will never be finished.
Doubles sound good right now
This is my favorite EV conversion I've seen in a long time. This EV Beat would be an amazing little computer car or short trip weekend cruiser.
This is the content we came for. Keep up the awesome EV conversions.
Yes, just take that bit off and put it there. We will make this piece fit here....? No matter what!😊
Fantastic content.
Cheap stuff is cool!
arcimotos are not cheap
Steven showing up will make this actually watchable.
Step the game up. Let's see some hybrid conversions!
YOU HAVE TO DO A MAZDA MIATA / MX5 CONVERSION!
They would appreciate the prototype :D
Is the Ocean powertrain going to end up in the C4?
More like a college lesson
I’ve always thought about a rotary, but I’ve never thought an electric drivetrain. Looking forward to this.
You were in Trinidad, I would have like to meet you.
5 views in 1 minute, dude fell off
Shame on you
What's this ish
Why are youtubers so mean to each other. You guys should be loving.. and hugging.....and kissing.
even Freddy's comments are left unfinished
show more respect to your biological father ....
What Rich is ah Trini brethren, I knew there's greatness in you.
Super interesting to see the outcome of this! ❤
I finished your book Rich. It was insightful to hear your story and where you came from. I appreciate your honesty and good storytelling.
I once considered an EV, then I found this channel and I'm ICE for life. Love Rich! This channel is underrated.
Love your book! Your life story and sense of humor made for an amazing audio book. Keep up the good work
Back to the roots. Thanks, fun to watch.
thats awesome, id take that as a city car any day.
@18:01 That’s looking really good in there
- Unc Rich
Finally an explanation for the C4!! Love the budget builds Rich
I really enjoyed your book, Rich! Once things settle down and you can openly talk about Stevon you should do another book with all the stuff you couldn’t talk about. I’d buy it immediately.
the zebra seats are awesome
So crazy it just might work! considering the lack of convertbles in the EV space, build a bunch of them
crazy what you achieved from when you started. Kudos to you Rich!
I love these honest builds that regular people can do great content
I love projects like these! Cant wait until next episode.
Great job on the video Rich! Thanks for making it. I've always felt that an early '70s Opel GT would make a dope platform to EV convert. Dunno how much battery range you would get, but it would likely rip around corners.
Rich you know they already make electric kei cars in Japan right... Cheap and new. 🚚
Excited to see how this one turns out! Looks like it’d be a blast to drive.
Please see this one through. I look forward to following this build.
Trini to d bone bless up my brother 🇹🇹
Arcimoto should start doing kei car EV conversion parts. They’ve inadvertently developed an ideal little driveline for them there.
Def add a support bar under those expensive motors. Pls.
Love it!
Big up to Trinidad and Tobago!
love that product segment commercial.
Rich I started building electric vehicles and selling them in the late 70s. They've never been cost effective. You know it's a rich man's game. It's always been. It's will continue to be a rich man's game. But your totally going in the right direction to play with small cars but you should build hybrids. Front wheel drive gas engine and a electric drive rear axle. Using a welding machine as your electrical power. Charging batteries and the rear axle. So you could let the gas engine idle and still drive the electric rear axle off the ice engine voltage supply. A pickup would be great to use a old Miller machine in the bed linked via a pto or intermediate drive line with a centrifugal clutch so you can lock out the welding machine. at higher speeds.
HNIC number plate. 😂 hilarious
Rich Ev conversions will be worth it once EV companies build or own their own Mining Companies or mining processes. I agree with you prices need to drop 150% before it will be cost effective and worth the range.
Wow this IS a really smooth swap considering. Love videos where Richard and Team solve problems and fabricate
Rich, you're my hero. Good progress by you and the team!!!
What about model D?
😂😆
Trini to the bone🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹
Very cool project! Thanks Rich.
The seats in the Beat are 🔥. Looks like some Raiders Zubaz pants.
Rich, no matter what anyone says, you're the man that brought stroopwaffels to the west. Awesome conversion on this.
Can't wait to see more.
rich ive been following you for a couple years now. you are the man. thank you for your work and information. wish you the best. much love from northern florida
Welcome to Trinidad and Tobago. Hope your stay was relaxing and enjoyable
Great video and loved the “Periodic Table of Elements in Pictures” shower curtain. I didn’t buy your sponsors products but I have ordered the curtain off Amazon.
An electric Ariel Atom would be sweet.
Now, that's a cool project Rich. Can't wait to see it on the road
Share with us that periodic table Rich... Love it.💌
Looking forward to seeing this progress - really want to do similar with a Del Sol!
Hey Rich, didn't realize you were a Trini! My friend thought I did the swap on my beat here in Trinidad 🤣
This is awesome, I love the philosophy here.
This is gonna be the best conversion yet!
Awesome - I gotta say I prefer the steel wheels though
Bravo, Richard, bravo
There’s a reason why @DJI doesn’t make a gas drone. Some things are better ice some are better with watts!
Boiy Uncle Rich in T&T 🇹🇹 yuh betta get some doubles, alou pie, curry goat, roti, mango chow and a stag! Enjoy vacation in Trinidad! ✌🏾
2:26 pull up for precise seeking
I know that a lot of people probably would’ve preferred that you do a conversion of I think people didn’t watch this one because you picked a Honda fit instead of like a Del Sol or S 2000, or an MR2 or something but I think this is far more unique and fun.
As a Trini yuh love to see it
I generally hate electric vehicles, but one conseolpt thta o love is exactly this. The lotus formula on an EV. Simplify, Add lightness, save money. Its something american auto manufacturers have forgotten.
THATS INCREDIBLE HOW YOU CAN ORGAN DONATE THESE PROJECTS = GOOD FOR YOU