Elden Ring is literally just Rome...

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  • Опубликовано: 29 дек 2024

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  • @tarnishedarchaeologist
    @tarnishedarchaeologist 8 месяцев назад +19

    Just astoundingly well done.

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +6

      Thank you, I have the most reliable sources out there ;)))

  • @JackisaMimic
    @JackisaMimic 8 месяцев назад +6

    Can't believe I overlooked this video. This video was so funny, you actually had me laughing out loud. This was so excellent, I am amazed you were able to find nearly all of the real world references for not just things we have in game but also the what is found in the trailer.
    I have hypothesized that the Sun Realm is supposed to be representative as Rome, where we see this empire that controls everywhere the Sun can touch and is polytheistic, but Christianity (The Erdtree) comes along, and the religion of the Sun Realm becomes monotheistic. Eventually the Sun Realm fades away and the religion that spread through the land remains, with new empires taking their place.
    I feel very vindicated after watching this video! And I also learned a lot of real history, which is probably more valuable than learning Elden Ring history lol
    GRRM's influence is so apparent in this game. If it wasn't for him this type of historical influence would be present. It would still be there, Miyazaki is interested in history and folklore, but Martin borrows from history so heavily that famous scenes like the Red Wedding from ASOIAF/Game of Thrones are just lifted from real world events like The Black Dinner in Edinburgh Castle (Which Stormveil is modeled from)

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +2

      and which is the topic for the next video I AM SO WITH YA BUDDY. but thank you for your kind words they are very sweet to hear. Welcome to my wacky tales homie. I have fun with it.

  • @anonymousmurphy
    @anonymousmurphy 8 месяцев назад +56

    For my money, this channel has the best editing, pacing, and structure of any ER content creator out there. Just straight up documentary quality.

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +9

      thats so sweet homie tysm

    • @AyaGumede
      @AyaGumede 8 месяцев назад +1

      Calma 😂

  • @cat_and_cabbage4662
    @cat_and_cabbage4662 8 месяцев назад +8

    A-thens is simply unforgivable

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +3

      ;-; look man my dad is from the midwest athens blame him pls dont hate me

    • @cat_and_cabbage4662
      @cat_and_cabbage4662 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@MoxieWatts understood, shifting the blame on to your father

  • @kr1spness
    @kr1spness 8 месяцев назад +33

    You just made me realize Maliketh is actually Fenrir. They tricked Fenrir into being imprisoned because he was destined to cause the death of the immortal Gods. Poor doggos

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +9

      I like the way you think! Wasn't 100% about to make the claim because i wanted to think about it some more and learn more of Fenrir's lore... What are you thinking up?

  • @K8theKind
    @K8theKind 7 месяцев назад +2

    Utterly masterful execution. Your conclusion is exactly a reflection of your own creation. Where history meets art & fantasy. Incredible and exceptional!!! Thank you!!!

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  7 месяцев назад +1

      no thank you! I really appreciate it ~ I love this game so much ;-;

  • @OFCRKAY
    @OFCRKAY 8 месяцев назад +19

    This is a fun switch up from the common Elden Ring lore video, I love it!

  • @gyarados222
    @gyarados222 8 месяцев назад +3

    Wow now THIS just BLEW my mind!

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад

      thanks Cole remember to actually watch it XD

  • @BobSagettt
    @BobSagettt 8 месяцев назад +3

    Incredible video Mox.

  • @alexanderdiogenes8067
    @alexanderdiogenes8067 8 месяцев назад +3

    The editing in this video is OUT OF CONTROL good.

  • @2JOfficial
    @2JOfficial 8 месяцев назад +14

    You deserve a lot more views, these videos are great

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +1

      TYSM homie! It would be so great if you could share with your homies as well! If you got any that play elden ring.

  • @MoxieWatts
    @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +44

    Hey! I could really use help spreading my videos out to more people who love Elden Ring as much as I do. If you have a homie that also loves Elden Ring, consider sharing! I appreciate your support homies. ❤

    • @JadedJasantha
      @JadedJasantha 8 месяцев назад +1

      Hey not to be a pedant but you made a pronounciation error! Samhain is pronounced more like Saw-when! Love your content, love the perspective you bring to Elden Ring :)

    • @uglyrat3858
      @uglyrat3858 8 месяцев назад

      @@JadedJasantha respectfully, 🤓

  • @StarlingInSpace
    @StarlingInSpace 8 месяцев назад +5

    love your editing style, shame I haven’t subscribed sooner. Its refreshing to hear real life influences that the game takes inspiration from and has made me appreciate human history more. Got me looking into ancient religions and went down the rabbit hole for inanna/Ishtar, from ancient Sumerian religion, I think she’s the main inspiration behind marika and her story. Mainly the poems of her huluppu tree, inanna and the god of wisdom, the courtship of inanna and dumuzi, and inannas descent into the underworld. Would love to hear your interpretation

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +2

      oh man i could def rant about Sumerians for a while

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah ill def relook into this

    • @StarlingInSpace
      @StarlingInSpace 8 месяцев назад

      @@MoxieWatts I really enjoy your content, would def be down to listen to some ranting

    • @delaneybeckman5248
      @delaneybeckman5248 6 месяцев назад

      @@MoxieWatts I beg of thee, please rant about the Sumerians-- ESPECIALLY given that we now know that the woman in the painting was called Nanaya.

  • @scorematus9170
    @scorematus9170 7 месяцев назад +2

    Dude im waching this and edit is alredy fire

  • @dirtblockandfriends
    @dirtblockandfriends 8 месяцев назад +10

    So much work went into this. Love picking apart the architecture details from the trailer.

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад

      I had to for myself
      like i needed to know

  • @kithugomusic
    @kithugomusic 8 месяцев назад +4

    This is too good. The amount of research, filming (in game), edit, voice overs, narrating, music/volume adjustments, the list goes on...
    As others have already stated; this kind of quality deserves a lot more views.
    I think your content is around the level of Vaati (in some ways better), only thing lacking is views and subs.
    Do you do all the editing and whatnot by yourself?
    Looking forward to the next!

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +1

      Wow thats so sweet of you to say. I could never be Vaati~ hopefully if I remain consistent everything else will follow.
      I do everything myself~ I have a BA in directing film & television. I even worked in TV for a while. I don't think I could let anyone else control anything.

    • @kithugomusic
      @kithugomusic 8 месяцев назад

      @@MoxieWatts No need to be Vaati. Vaati does his thing so good it would be very hard to match. Same goes for you. You have your own style, just nurture that! Put in another way; you and Vaati are equals in doing your own thing, doing it passionately and compellingly!
      And if you hadn’t worked in TV or didn’t have a BA in directing film and television, I would had been slightly frustrated to be honest haha

  • @blakebailey22
    @blakebailey22 8 месяцев назад +2

    10:12 lmao. Also, nice connection to Messmer's posture and ancient Egyptian statues

  • @beansnrice321
    @beansnrice321 8 месяцев назад +3

    On the subject of gladiators, there is almost certainly a Spartacus subplot somewhere in the game. My initial hunch was that Godfrey was the slave who took over and was later driven out of Rome but it could have been Radagon. There is almost certainly some plot of a hammer-wielding champion who came from Castle Mourn. The language on the Brick hammer is the foundation of that theme. The link to Strength seems to imply a link to Godfrey but the word, "Champion," being used seemed to imply Radagon. I also think that it's not irrelevant that Godfrey's unique build and strength seem to only be shared with the Grave Wardens(ex-gladiators).

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад

      it was more for the gladiator tie in. i dunno i see a lot of similarities between them...both outcasts. castle morne is so fuckin weird in so many ways...especially the gravestones.

  • @beansnrice321
    @beansnrice321 8 месяцев назад +2

    Love the production and all of the hand crafted art! Your channel is inspiring to aspiring vtubers! I love you're closing arguments about art and art history. To me that's so much of the essence of these games. Whether it's Miyazaki or someone on his art team but there is a depth of art history that has become their unmistakable signature.
    I'm not sure if I said it to you or somewhere else but their games feel like Monty Python style animations made out of cut-outs form an art history text book. Their games are collage-like in that regard.
    To me your average Miyazaki game is the game equivalent of taking a urinal, signing it, "R. Mutt," and naming it fountain. In other words they're the essence of art.

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +2

      Miyazaki is a sociologist, so i wonder if he is trying to encourage people to dive into our history...like its also real easy to get 3d assets of these famous monuments.

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +2

      i love that you picked up on the collage aspect. Thats what I wanted it to feel like. Thank you

  • @wrenchdodger
    @wrenchdodger 8 месяцев назад +4

    Just started the video and it’s already so so so good wow

  • @wrenchdodger
    @wrenchdodger 8 месяцев назад +5

    After watching the whole video, your editing is amazing. And your insights are also very good. Wonderful video, deserves soooooo many more views!

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +1

      Tysm homie! im so glad you enjoyed it :))

  • @zachhiggins1668
    @zachhiggins1668 7 месяцев назад +3

    Funny, the thing that finally made ER connect with me (I loved it, just hadn't "clicked" yet) was realizing it feels so flucking much like a modern interpretation of the first Zelda game. And it's like, if you skip some steps of inspiration/competition bxw the two companies, I think it basically is. But it's cool how it's essentially the same concept. Here's a big world, solve it by exploring, thinking, using your senses, following your intuition. Rewards essentially the same way, same awe-inspiring yet desolate landscapes, same sense of an exhausted world being crept upon by parasites (soooo stoked to start cracking the themes here and seeing what y'all came up with 🔥🔥🔥)

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  7 месяцев назад +2

      Dude literally! You should see the video I did called Zelden Ring lol 😂

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  7 месяцев назад +2

      It’s literally the same game

    • @zachhiggins1668
      @zachhiggins1668 7 месяцев назад

      @@MoxieWatts I did! This comment was supposed to be on that video lol. I'm just stoked you're going about Elden Ring with the same mix of holistic and literary thinking you so brilliantly apply to Zelda. Dark Souls got me all into architecture and history, this epic obsession with ancient Rome. Got me to play a bunch of assassins creed lol..
      (They're overhated on tho honestly) and I've been wishing I had the time to set aside to investigate and compare lore and literature/mythology/symbolism deep, so yeah can't freaking wait to watch those vids lol 🤓 got me playing Eldin Ring with a purpose 🤓🤓

  • @zevrs5800
    @zevrs5800 8 месяцев назад +4

    The audio balance in this video is perfection. Not to mention the great editing, pacing, and quality analysis as usual. Keep up the fantastic work!

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +1

      omg thank you im so self conscious about my audio literally all the time.

  • @cobleen3982
    @cobleen3982 8 месяцев назад +4

    I am genuinely willing to watch all the ads for this quality of content

  • @LittlePrincess101
    @LittlePrincess101 8 месяцев назад +9

    *You deserve a million SUBS*
    The entertainment and quality your videos bring is unmatch!

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +1

      thats so sweet tysm homie

  • @wast01d
    @wast01d 8 месяцев назад +3

    killin it yet again moxie. i'm gonna be pondering this one for a while. also it was so much fun to watch!!

  • @MuffledFox
    @MuffledFox 8 месяцев назад +6

    On messmers sigil with the lands between and the land of shadow, idk if thats to far but if you look at the horizontal line of fire, the thing in the middle kinda looks like a boat traveling across the sides...
    but i also think that thats just me and its just fire

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +2

      I see it
      this is why we call it heavy speculation
      its lit

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +1

      i been thinking about this since you said it.... mf u might be cooking real hard rn

  • @bigdoopy
    @bigdoopy 8 месяцев назад +2

    The veiled goddess section at the end goes so hard 🔥 HYPEEEEE

    • @bigdoopy
      @bigdoopy 8 месяцев назад

      I also need that song used in that section, so good

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +1

      Tiko Tiko - Deepest Dive
      Also thanks! I had a lot of fun editing the shots for that part, took like 2 days

  • @vongolamistowl
    @vongolamistowl 8 месяцев назад +4

    Damn, the production value on this video is insane. Severely underrated creator.

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад

      tysm ;-; im so glad you like it

  • @imawizardbaby
    @imawizardbaby 8 месяцев назад +2

    how does this not have more views. this is really good. especially the marika and the round table part.

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +2

      ah, if only I myself knew. I'm glad you were just as mind blown as I was when I read it. I dunno it just seems to kinda fit right??

    • @imawizardbaby
      @imawizardbaby 8 месяцев назад

      @@MoxieWatts i would have never made that connection. great work!

  • @avgfunkygamer
    @avgfunkygamer 8 месяцев назад +2

    This was a 10/10 video for me, I hope it gets the recognition it deserves.

  • @JasmineOdora
    @JasmineOdora 8 месяцев назад +3

    I don’t know if anyone else has said or heard it, but I swear Moxie and SamWitch sound like twins! Lol
    Absolutely love this content! I’ve never even played the game! But I’m always so excited when you and Bandit post an Elden Ring video!!

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад

      Jasmine, you gotta play this game. trust you will not regret it!!

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад

      omg this samwitch girl is so cute i have to be here friend

  • @useruseruser501
    @useruseruser501 8 месяцев назад +2

    Fantasic vid. Will share around. Only issue I had was on some of the voice mods, it was a little hard to understand at times.

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад

      Noted! thanks for letting me know!

  • @hyydra_
    @hyydra_ 8 месяцев назад +5

    My mind has been blown! The quality of your videos are unparalleled 🔥 this video has really highlighted the incredible detail in the game, I can't wait to see what the DLC will bring...

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +1

      Dude me either. I'm so hype.

  • @kevinl-g9759
    @kevinl-g9759 8 месяцев назад +3

    Goddamn, this video is great! The editing, the pacing and the actual information is all top notch! You're already shaping up to be one of my favourate elden ring youtubers.

  • @LucasDimoveo
    @LucasDimoveo 8 месяцев назад +3

    The editing goes so hard and is pretty unique in the ER space here on RUclips. 😮

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад

      Thank you so much, I went to school for film and broadcast tv! My degree is in directing :)
      I'm so glad you enjoyed homie :)))

  • @jameslebus2432
    @jameslebus2432 8 месяцев назад +3

    Although I disagree with some of your conclusions, your content as a whole is excellent. I’m sure you will gain the following your work deserves with time. Looking forward to the next one.

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад

      Ooo do you have anything you're thinking of? I always value hearing other people's perspectives on stuff. Y'all think of things in other ways which helps me reanalyze my work.

  • @Andy-dh2sv
    @Andy-dh2sv 8 месяцев назад +2

    Excellent quality, going to check out your channel

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад

      aw thank you very much homie

  • @jjchello
    @jjchello 8 месяцев назад +2

    Wow. You are really stepping up your game!! Great job!

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад

      I gotta give it my best

  • @wjr4700
    @wjr4700 8 месяцев назад +2

    Amaizing job. Awesome video. I have never heard of you but am now subscribed.
    Thank you for shedding more light on this amaizing lore.

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад

      Aw thanks homie! welcome to the crew. 🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @Writh811
    @Writh811 8 месяцев назад +3

    This needs way more eyes on it. Very quality work.

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад

      tell the church ;-;

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад

      also thank you very very much homie

  • @danieldirocco8282
    @danieldirocco8282 8 месяцев назад +3

    One figure I haven’t heard mentioned as an inspiration to Godfrey is Clovis, the first King of the Franks to covert to Christianity. At least according to legend, he did it in part because his wife nagged him into it.
    Clovis and his descendants (The Merovingians, sick name) were still Conan-ass warlords who just cosplayed as Christian Kings, but over time, they were slowly tamed into respectability and toothlessness. This all leads to that guy Charlemagne, who founded a new dynasty and founded the Holy Roman Empire, aka “look ma, we got a new Rome, ah fuck nope it’s cracked never mind”. Godfrey=Clovis/Merovingians Radagon=Charlemagne/Carlolingians?? Probably not, but there's echoes of them for sure.
    I’d highly recommend Dan Carlin’s podcast episode Thor’s Angels. It covers the time period of Late Antiquity, transitioning from late Rome to early medieval. Carlin also knows how to talk good, damn, I wish more history podcasters had an ounce of the sauce he has.

  • @allthe1
    @allthe1 8 месяцев назад

    I can feel the amount of fun you're having with the sound and music editing reverberating through the crust of the earth

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  7 месяцев назад +1

      ALWAYS
      also i love hyperbole and a half

  • @HopeiThis
    @HopeiThis 8 месяцев назад +5

    Incredible video!!! I may have had to slow it down to take in all the information this time around though 😅

  • @nickerslarge3776
    @nickerslarge3776 8 месяцев назад +4

    Was I right?? “Mother” tattoo is sooo clutch!
    Very well done.

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад

      yeah you absolutely were i love it so much more lol

  • @artemiscephei1339
    @artemiscephei1339 8 месяцев назад +1

    These edits are fantastic.
    The video quality and pacing is spot on.
    Entertaining and informative - youve got some great work here. Music choices work well - and the lore ideas (while some im not sure i agree with) are top tier. Really great research and connections made!
    Ive been telling all my nerdy lore friends about your last video. Now this one is gonna be evangelized too!

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +1

      wow you're so sweet artemis! I really appreciate all these fine compliments, you're really too kind. Got any ideas otherwise?

  • @kabobba
    @kabobba 8 месяцев назад +4

    let's goooo been waiting for this !

  • @jaycobobob
    @jaycobobob 8 месяцев назад +1

    Bro how are there so many good Elden Ring content creators 😭 this vid is fire yo

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад

      good question. I love all the ER content out there. live for it even

  • @LevovitLore
    @LevovitLore 8 месяцев назад

    Wow. I thought only the Tarnished Archeologist is able to do a video about historical references of such high quality. But you reached the same level. Really impressive work

  • @kabobba
    @kabobba 8 месяцев назад +1

    I am so glad you switched to Elden Ring, you really can dive deep and no one does it like you

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад

      you the best kobobba ily so much

    • @kabobba
      @kabobba 8 месяцев назад

      @@MoxieWatts nahh u the best moxie ily too hahaha, i, as always look forward to everything you do

  • @Mohlinder92
    @Mohlinder92 4 месяца назад +1

    Amazing work! Incredibly interesting with your perspective on art!

  • @Nightmareblader
    @Nightmareblader 8 месяцев назад +2

    I like the way you put videos together. ❤

  • @uglyrat3858
    @uglyrat3858 8 месяцев назад +4

    The kitchen has cooked 🧑‍🍳🔥🔥🔥

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +1

      You already know

  • @nicolasgorszczyk9291
    @nicolasgorszczyk9291 8 месяцев назад +14

    Yo these edits have no rights to look this good 🔥🔥🔥

  • @Memnoch_the_Devil
    @Memnoch_the_Devil 7 месяцев назад

    30:06 one of the spiral pillars resembling the ones from the DLC trailer pointed out earlier in the video…

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  7 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah for sure! couldn't find anything on it, it may still exist but I think thats one of the things that was toppled. I THINK.

  • @eldenringpvpenthusiast1710
    @eldenringpvpenthusiast1710 8 месяцев назад +6

    So I had this really freaky moment that made my heart skip a beat. I was in Fia's room trying to get a better look of the painting of Marika on the right, when you first enter. Something I thought while looking, besides how sad she always looks, is that her face is always at an angle where you can almost see her eyes or one of her eyes, but just never looking at you, like she doesn't want to make eye contact with the tarnished or something. But when I turned my camera around, the same thing was going on with Fia. She had been watching me the entire time, but even when I saw her, her eyes were veiled by her cloak. Then I noticed an urn below a painting of a tree with Marika's arms in her usual position, but after after using the paintings as clues in Rya Lucaria to find that secret area, I felt like the painting represents Marika rising from the ashes of that urn, with her arms stretched over Fia and pointing to her other painting. Then next time I talked to Hewg, he said something about "the sheer terror of her", but all I could think about was Fia staring at me straight through the wall. So I took Hewgs advice and played some Colloseum. But she seems to have a lot to do with secrets, drapes, and hidden areas too. Iv'e always felt like the baldachins blessing kinda looked like a doorway

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +1

      Ok so you are indeed cooking. I'm tryna think, what could it mean.... i love your analysis about her eye line (never looking at the tarnished) so maybe the paintings are trying to convey a sense of shame, or like you said, secrecy. That being said, Fia is a deathbed companion (necromancer) which i imagine carries a sense of shame with it. There also isn't much we know about these companions other than really what we learn from Fia.
      I kinda been thinking maybe the doorway is the closed off axis mundi door, the door that would allow people to normally traverse between worlds.
      all and all interesting stuff homie. Im interested if you have more to add, im super invested in this comment.

    • @eldenringpvpenthusiast1710
      @eldenringpvpenthusiast1710 8 месяцев назад

      @@MoxieWatts I sometimes wonder if its a child of dark thing, like in ds1 there was a being called Manus that, when defeated, split into fragments of itself. The fragments were different parts of its personality and sin that were reborn as it's "children". I always felt like some of the female characters of Elden Ring were similar. The frenzy maiden, Tanith and Rodrika are other characters that remind me of different personalities of emotions that Marika potentially went through with godwyn's death. But I'm really confused about Godwyn. There is a picture of him seemingly after the black knife attack, where the assassins are themselves holding a sentry torch. Shouldn't it be reverse? What was the assassin that lives in dark trying to see? Who Godwyn really is? It kinda looks like he's wearing Marika's dress and has similar cracks on its body. And Im not exactly sure when the dragon cult was formed, but on fextrlife, the symbol for it is a dragon crawling on the tower of a burning city, so idk whats going on. lol, but its interesting. I think the dlc will shed light on the fallen sun realm, it feels like a chunk of lore thats been saved for later
      There's mention of Godrik, who claims to be a descendant of gold, disguising himself as a woman, interesting that its the same family line. This part is pretty deep in the rabbit hole, but theres mention of a meager victory over controlling the flame of frenzy, its incantation is called controlled or frenzied burst. I truly feel like Marika dealt with her other half through this concept of controlled bursts. Releasing some of her masculinity at times of war or something, so she could controll herself. I believe this power comes from a "borrowed" power of the greater will, that she never gave back, and kept a secret until it was stolen and used for humanity(prometheus story helps with this). The borrowed power may have come from Farum azula, with placidusaax still waiting for its fell sun god to return. The mistake the greater will did was trust the giant's could beat marika with the power of a sun god. Which Marika somehow beat and sealed away long enough to go nuts and frenzy, because it wants to go back where it came from bad style. But those statues of marika and cruified people are called effigies of martyrs and effigies of marika, implying they made a great sacrifice to do...something

    • @GhostWriter-Gohan
      @GhostWriter-Gohan 7 месяцев назад

      ​​​​@@MoxieWatts I apologize if I'm interjecting myself to the discussion, I wanted to add onto the idea regarding the Baldachin.
      I've yet to take time to challenge this idea, but I wonder if the arched doorway seen in Baldachin's iconography is analog to the arched doorway we travese through in the opening cinematic, to cross the fog admist a flood of radiant light spilling in.
      [EDIT] I used tts but had not realized theere was awas jumped tts to had not realized how incoherent the comment had been, so.

  • @kitetales
    @kitetales 8 месяцев назад

    DUDE HOW IS THIS EDITING SO SICK?!?!

  • @dorabyrne
    @dorabyrne 7 месяцев назад

    This channel is so great!

  • @madwaluigi2860
    @madwaluigi2860 8 месяцев назад +3

    easily one of the best deep dives on elden ring this year
    you're the only channel other than tarnished archeologists that connected elden ring to rome.

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +1

      golly, thats so sweet of u

  • @WaruiDeshou
    @WaruiDeshou 8 месяцев назад +1

    Despite your egregious pronunciation of "Athens" 😝 I absolutely love this video! Well produced, well research, sasy to watch, and something most lore videos aren't: fun! Great stuff.

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +1

      yeaaaaahhh im a hick apparently
      thanks so much tho im so glad you enjoyed, i had fun making it

  • @七百七十七
    @七百七十七 8 месяцев назад +15

    How often do you reckon Moxie thinks about the Roman Empire? 🤔🤔🤔

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +7

      several times a day. Charlie has begun to question my gender...he thinks I gotta be a dude thinking of rome this often

  • @a-rah9001
    @a-rah9001 6 месяцев назад

    Ohhh love this theory of marika being veiled,because i belive marika needed radagon to completely be in control of the body(by the way of shattering himself as said in marika's bedchember echo)so after the shattering radagon can follow up and repair it and take over as being a vessel for the elden ring so there is a way for elden beast to be slayin without marika dying and radagon working as a sacrifice consciousness in order to acsess the elden beast without her parshing,i think marika had a way out for herself.

  • @nickdaring
    @nickdaring 8 месяцев назад +2

    So good

  • @rancidavocado2166
    @rancidavocado2166 8 месяцев назад +1

    The point of the dlc will to be to get mesmurs flame snd be able to burn melina bypassing the fire giant and malkeith allowing us to sniff rannis feet a hole hour earlier. Mizyaki does it again.

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад

      the lore has been unpacked ladies and gents. nothing else to see here

  • @orom6581
    @orom6581 8 месяцев назад +4

    saw your teaser, lets see if you be cookin 🗣️‼️

    • @orom6581
      @orom6581 8 месяцев назад

      🔥✍️ indeed

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад

      twas sautéed

  • @markholdgate
    @markholdgate 8 месяцев назад +5

    Aythens?

  • @littlechurchlore
    @littlechurchlore 7 месяцев назад

    This is amazing 😌🔥

  • @charlesallenw
    @charlesallenw 7 месяцев назад +1

    Man I wish I could play this game for the first time again 😢

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  7 месяцев назад +1

      ikr i was watching a friend play it for the first time and on god it was the most exciting thing i seen in the last few years.

  • @Memnoch_the_Devil
    @Memnoch_the_Devil 7 месяцев назад

    What’s the map at 31:47? It cuts off before I can get the whole picture.

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  7 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah I didn't want to reveal their whole theory! But yes here you are ~~
      TheMonkeyK 『I tried to rebuild Farum Azula』www.reddit.com/user/themonkeyk/comments/1bc4zqe/i_tried_to_rebuild_farum_azula_what_do_you_think/

  • @falgalhutkinsmarzcal3962
    @falgalhutkinsmarzcal3962 8 месяцев назад +1

    Laocoon and his sons were punished because he attempted to warn the Trojans about the horse, much as Cassandra was punished by Apollo to foretell prophecies no one would believe. Also, the Romans considered themselves the descendants of the Trojans, the Aeneid being a propaganda myth written by Virgil at the behest of Augustus.

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +1

      Oh interesting context actually! I was watching something about this after it was edited the other day and I'm really fascinated by it. This idea of punishment by the Gods. But yeah wasn't Rome originally made of outcasts? Not too sure still researching to try to understand. I fall asleep to some of this and sometimes it doesn't all get through. XDD
      anywho tysm for this homie!

    • @falgalhutkinsmarzcal3962
      @falgalhutkinsmarzcal3962 8 месяцев назад

      @@MoxieWatts another thing you might want to look into is Constantine and his "in hoc signo vincis" moment. He saw a sign of the Cross in the sky and conquered in the name of the Christian god (or so the story goes).
      Also, the Byzantium angle is interesting because of Yeats' poem "Sailing to Byzantium". It seems pertinent since it speaks of old age, the passing of ages, their monuments, how an old man has a heart "fastened to a dying animal" (which speaks of dualism, but is Godfrey and Serosh if taken literally), and it speaks of creating a golden body to inhabit, as well as the "artifice of eternity" and the "golden bough". Yeats was part of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn alongside William Sharp, another inspiration to not only Martin, but Miyazaki.

  • @beansnrice321
    @beansnrice321 8 месяцев назад +2

    I miss doing animation. =(

  • @kr1spness
    @kr1spness 8 месяцев назад +1

    If you ever watch Britannica it reminds me of that places underworld. Basically just after Jesus' death there is a spirit world where a demon in Norse mythology takes control of Rome and people are fighting while a war over land now they they've returned to the physical world through avatars, which would be the tarnished in the waking world ala bloodborne. The Lands Between would be the spirit world one man keeps visiting in the show by nearly drowning himself to death.

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад

      Lol i came across their videos recently, and i havent made it through the catalog. there's too much
      ah this is so interesting! I haven't played bloodborne but i couldnt resist watching lore videos. I was thinking about this idea of drowning himself in death but then, theres the serepus influence who is said to bring life after death, so if you kinda stir these ideas together it begins to kinda explain the respawn mechanic.

  • @Bori.1776
    @Bori.1776 8 месяцев назад +2

    The pronunciation of Athens had me reeling but it’s not a Roman city. It was originally a Greek city and currently still is. Rome at one point might’ve governed over it but it was Greek. Alexandria as well was built by Greeks & governed by them along with the Egyptians for quite some time as well. I’m nitpicking, but if we’re gonna use history to use analysis we gotta do it right.

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +1

      no no u right- my dad is from a place named athens, and the way they say it had me fucked up lol
      On Greece and Alexandria, I could have definitely clarified. I'll make it more clear in the future.

    • @Bori.1776
      @Bori.1776 8 месяцев назад

      @@MoxieWatts My bad if I came off aggressive. I do like the video, I’m just a nerd 😂

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +1

      @@Bori.1776 No worries fam! Homie, I was so worried the whole time about getting details wrong. I actually had to rewrite the 'enemies of rome' part like 3+ times lol. I kept getting little details wrong. XDD I was positive I had to have messed something up the entire time though I was real real careful

    • @Bori.1776
      @Bori.1776 8 месяцев назад

      @@MoxieWatts HAHAHA, I gotchu. I forgot the RUclips channel, but someone also pointed that Messmer might be also inspired by a Sumerian god (forgot the name) but he was God of trees or lord of the good tree something like that and he has 2 snakes coming out of his back in his depictions. Honestly I believe Messmer has multiple inspirations like the ones you mentioned, Vlad the impaler (duh) and maybe this Sumerian god. Idk you might wanna take a look.

  • @Nihil847
    @Nihil847 8 месяцев назад +1

    Clearly, the player character is Marika. That’s why when the game starts you’re inside the erdtree before crossing the fog
    Idk but how come no one talks about waking up in the final arena or something that looks like it?

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +1

      oh wait what the actual--
      what the
      no wait
      wait
      stop....
      wait
      omg
      wow

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +1

      Ive been thinking about why we wake up in the erdtree for 3 weeks non-stop

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +1

      (that is precisely where it is according to the data peeps)

    • @Nihil847
      @Nihil847 8 месяцев назад

      Ok good. I was kinda joking about the Marika part but that’s my unhinged theory that we’re either miquella or Marika. But I was always curious if we actually started inside the Erdtree but no one talked about it! This puts my mind at ease, kinda lmao
      Amazing video btw

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +1

      @@Nihil847 tysm you are so sweet! I'd like to incorperate this into my next theory. You really got me thinking hard about the subject now...so it's the entire topic for the next video lol. the NG+ mechanic in general. Do you have more ideas around it? Anything you've noticed perhaps? I think we start in the Erdtree personally but im gonna double check everything.

  • @komputerkaput1757
    @komputerkaput1757 8 месяцев назад +2

    Art Deco, is that you?

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад

      I love love love looooove that channel.
      I actually used one of their videos as a reference/refresher on baroque art.

  • @wurstbrotchen2135
    @wurstbrotchen2135 8 месяцев назад +1

    Great video. Your account is gonna blow up. One word on the title of the video, but perhaps as an European: Aachen, Byzanz, Athen, florenz: the lands between is basically... 'Rome'? It not even the S. P. Q. R.,it's europe. There is a big (colonial) difference I think(written by a child of the peoples of gaul 🤔(outside the limes))

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +1

      yeah packaging this video was so hard; i dont think its packaged exactly appropriately, but its the best i could think of. but yea def all of europe
      whaddya mean by this btw?? "(written by a child of the peoples of gaul 🤔(outside the limes))"
      context?

    • @wurstbrotchen2135
      @wurstbrotchen2135 8 месяцев назад

      @@MoxieWatts Should be more of a joke about post-colonialism. But it is actually relevant in the history of the regions on which side of the Limes they existed. I grew up outside the limes. But with great view on it

  • @Ontos99
    @Ontos99 7 месяцев назад

    An insane video. Just my kinda crazy

  • @captainxit5573
    @captainxit5573 8 месяцев назад +1

    Exactly What I've Been Sayin'!!!
    Ever Watch I•Claudius!?!?! Basically Elden Ring.😆

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +1

      No i haven't! but i will go take a look homie ~~

  • @SappyMaragold
    @SappyMaragold 8 месяцев назад +4

    The radio effect kinda killed it for me, but what I made it through was pretty good.

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад

      nw always trying something new :))
      ty for the feedback homie

    • @SirianXM
      @SirianXM 7 месяцев назад +1

      That's one of the best parts! Level up that listening skill young Sappy

  • @FirstOfMyName069
    @FirstOfMyName069 8 месяцев назад +1

    Miyazaki: what is the Roman empire?

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +3

      GRRM: it was actually a pretty cool place where a lot of people did some pretty nifty stuff and some pretty horrific things. all in all 10/10 lore in rome lol

  • @stefanjackson1127
    @stefanjackson1127 7 месяцев назад

    My final thoughts on the main outcome.
    My theory is that Miquella's plan is to fuse with Messmer to become a god of the Shadow plane (the soul realm). In Alchemy and Hermeticism it's worth looking into the Alchemical Wedding.
    Miquella and Messmer are 2 sides of the same coin. Like Marika and Radagon. I believe Marika and Radagon were once separate and she ascended her qualities that made her the other half of Radagon. I believe they fused in the same principal of the Alchemical Wedding.
    I think each Empyrean has a plane they must belong on. There are 3 general planes of exiatence: the physical, the astral / mind, and the soul.
    I believe each Empyrean aligns wirh this;
    Malenia being the physical plane where she is a swordswoman who's main deal is decay, rot and rebirth.
    Ranni being the Astral / mind / psychic.
    And Miquella being of the soul.
    Based on this I believe the butterflies represent each Empyrean.
    Since we're on the Lands Between I believe we are on the Astral (Ranni's) plane. I think Miquella knew this and that's why he never chose to fight Ranni because he knew it was her plane to begin with.
    The Astral plane is the 2nd stage in the cycle: Physical > Astral > Soul, so it would make sense it would be the Lands Between.
    I think Ranni and Miquella (maybe Malenia too) all conspired in the Night of the black knives.
    My theory beforehand is that Marika made it impossible for the Empyreans to leave to their respective planes because she didn't want to lose any children and broke the cycle.
    I believe across the other planes there will be respective "other half" Empyreans for both Ranni and Malenia too.
    - I have a dew more ideas that seem to go with these theories and make sense.
    Between looking at Jungian Psychology, Hermeticism, Alcehmy, Tarot, Kyballah and the Rosicrucians, there is some real similarities.

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  7 месяцев назад +1

      I like that because like, if you think about it, it would affect the base game. #stephanspeculationforshadowoftheerdtree2024

    • @stefanjackson1127
      @stefanjackson1127 7 месяцев назад

      Knowing From it could be just about anything and I could be a million miles off, but speculation is a big part of the lore fun. However the wait for the DLC isn't, we're all just coping until it releases

  • @MrDeskart
    @MrDeskart 8 месяцев назад +4

    Ave Caesar, Morituri Te Salutant. Dulce Et Decorum Est Pro Patria Mori

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад

      love that regina spektor song

  • @anvitupadhyay5121
    @anvitupadhyay5121 8 месяцев назад +1

    Wow

  • @zachhiggins1668
    @zachhiggins1668 7 месяцев назад

    You do ER content fuck yeah. I came to see if you had been thinking about Zelda any recently. Currently finally going through my first er run

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  7 месяцев назад

      Ah! yeah man its so gud right! be careful i might spoil you ;-;

    • @zachhiggins1668
      @zachhiggins1668 7 месяцев назад

      @@MoxieWatts I love how that emoji totally evokes the laughing guy loool (in my opinion 💪)
      Yeah I'm totally getting a bloodborne prequel thought? That blood church has got to..... No hell in way could I be convinced "coincidence". Gag, maybe, but that would be cruel. Dark Souls cruel 👿

  • @neatguy89
    @neatguy89 8 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you....just thank you.....people have convoluted this entire thing and this is just refreshing for someone who just studies mythology

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад

      Ah it's just so fascinating. I fall asleep to either ancient lost civilizations, stuff about various religions, and mythologies of all different cultures. Its just like really interesting to me to hear people talk about these places and wonder along with them. :) Im glad u enjoyed the video homie :))

    • @neatguy89
      @neatguy89 8 месяцев назад

      OMG ITS BEEN MY THING SINCE I WAS A CHILD AND IM IN MY 30S NOW it was nerdy and dumb but it literally ties into everything I love games anime everything and editor to editor....youre 😤🔥😤🔥😤

  • @manicpixiedreamgirl9223
    @manicpixiedreamgirl9223 8 месяцев назад

    THIS is so good had me watching 3 times

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад

      Sheesh 3 TIMES? thank you so much for the support homie~~ :)

  • @LittlePrincess101
    @LittlePrincess101 8 месяцев назад +3

    *Wish I had just bought Elden Ring DLC instead of Dragon's Dogma 2-* o(≧口≦)o

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад

      OOo gimme ur tldr thoughts on Dragons Dogma. Spill the beans.
      i been asking ppl

    • @nicolasgorszczyk9291
      @nicolasgorszczyk9291 8 месяцев назад

      Dragons dogma 2 is awesome if you don't mind walking a lot and clunky stuff.
      Exploration is the highlight of the game, combat is real fun too but very erratic, nothing clean like FromSoft.
      Quests are not really marked explicitly on what to do or where to go but it's nothing too hard so it does feel rewarding to do them.
      Story and universe is very very generic though.
      Would totally recommend

    • @LittlePrincess101
      @LittlePrincess101 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@MoxieWatts Sorry for any bad english ( ̄ ‘i  ̄;)
      *The Gameplay* is good. Compared to elden ring there is no "real" Consistant playstyle instead your playstyle is tied to the class you pick. ( Some classes can dodge; however, other classes can parry with shields or counter.) So I'd say your class and playstyle have more of an Impact on your experience. Combat is suppose to feel more "realistic" but depending on which class you play it can feel like Monster hunter to devil may cry to classic dark souls combat.
      *The Story* (No spoilers) I think Dragon's Dogma 2 is more straightforward and tells a classic tale of "Hero & villian" if you complete it the "normal" way but the "true ending" can leave a lot more questions-
      *I went on a rant about the game's mechanics after this-*
      *Monsters* Dragon's Dogma 2 has put a lot of effort into how their monsters act- playing as female character makes ogres chase after you and Griffins will actively patrol the skies and dive bomb you even if you're already in the middle of fighting another enemy. Speaking of which, the monsters can be spotted fighting each other in the open world as well. They have their own unique weakest so its best to learn when to attack and what to attack instead of charging in randomly. (Compared to Elden ring, the amounts of monster encounters are lacking in my option. There are Minotaurs, Undead sorcerers and armies, medusa, sphynx, special mini bosses that guard chests, and tons of creatures but I've never found a *dullahan* and you'll fight many different varients of goblins type monsters, armored Cyclops, harpies, and *WOLVES, THE WOLVES ARE A THREAT.* For some monsters you actively have to seek/stumble across their specific area to encounter them. Typically the more rare monsters are found as you do a NPC quest)
      *Pawns* AI companions that accompany you on your adventure. There is your main pawn, designed by you, and other pawns (designed by players) you can hire from other players in the *"RIFT."* Your main pawn gains knowledge on monster weaknesses and locations of chests and certain quests completed. They can get hired by other players and your pawn will have that information with them while they're in that other players world. Naturally, if someone uses your pawn and completes a quest or finds a chest/item that you have not done or found yet, your pawn will gain that knowledge and can guide you those quests or locations. (Also your pawn can catch you if you fall from a cliff or flying dragon and pick you up off the floor if you get stomped or sat on by a cyclops. Its a real life saver)
      *NPCS* some will *INDEED* randomly approach you and start talking to you. They give you side quest (some of them have a limited time to be completed, so balance your missions wisely)
      *Romance* *THERE IS ROMANCE*
      *Other mechanics* Watch your weight, too much in your pack can cause you to be slower or prevent you from running at all. (put some items in your pawns backpack)
      During your adventure you will be taking damage and your overall maxium health will be lowered and unable to be healed so make camp to recover it sometimes.
      *Dragon's plague* Never suffered from it but if your pawn gets sick from it you are in for an experience.
      I think its a pretty great game but some performance is still being worked out- it might demand a lot CPU. Frame drops and some glitches. I've never encounter any glitches; however, Cities will cause framerate to drop considerably.

    • @buckyhurdle4776
      @buckyhurdle4776 8 месяцев назад +1

      Draggin the Dogma

  • @nbmoleminer5051
    @nbmoleminer5051 8 месяцев назад +1

  • @josephdellavecchia7828
    @josephdellavecchia7828 8 месяцев назад +1

    Idk if it means anything but Marika wears bracelets that are in the forms of snakes. Why would she wear a symbol of blasphemy?

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +1

      Hold on i need to go ponder the orb for a while...

  • @neatguy89
    @neatguy89 8 месяцев назад +1

    THE SAVIOR OF SOULSBOURNE LORE HAS AWAKENED

  • @FirstLast-qj1gs
    @FirstLast-qj1gs 8 месяцев назад +1

    Not a fan of the over editing. Too much loud music and sound effects, its hard to take it all in. Maybe it works on short form videos to have something flashy all the time but for a 45 min video... i made it to 10 mins before my brain gave out. Sometimes less is more.

    • @iacobio6628
      @iacobio6628 8 месяцев назад

      Bro what are you huffing

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад

      so for my lore to sleep to this time i was going to do a clean version of the audio for both videos when i compilate them and either do ambience or like really soft music in the background...or nothing im not sure yet.
      & this version would probably be more up your alley. :))
      thanks for the feedback homie it's always appreciated.

  • @ofcatarina
    @ofcatarina 7 месяцев назад

    I know it's 2024 lol, but Gods don't need to be gendered. I believe it's a finger reader that says something like "a god in truth" when referring to Marika.

  • @Throne6810
    @Throne6810 8 месяцев назад

    Really great video this one🫡💯May the Golden Light Guide your way bro

    • @MoxieWatts
      @MoxieWatts  8 месяцев назад +1

      yo homie thank you for the blessings, bless up