@@L16htW4rr10r microtransactions. There's supossably no free mobile game that can pull off this much budget for their trailers unless they have a shitton of microtransactions.
Really glad to see the Royal Armouries making these videos under their own channel now. These game review videos are awesome. Would love to see a twitch channel pop up where we can watch Jonathan play games and coach him through playing them.
Problem is that that was a early finish anti-material gun and the tank was a PanzerKampfwegan Mark 6 or tiger 1 which had 3inches of thick armor plating in the front.
They fired the PTRD in hopes of killing the driver but also to distract the tank crew, then the armored sapper with LMG cut down the tank's infantry escort, which allowed the infantryman with the grenade pack to get close enough for the throw.
I'm a bit surprised Jonathan didn't know much about body armor. The Japanese had like 10 different body armor models throughout ww2 and the russians also had a few
They looked to be awfully close together as a battery deployment, a really good target! I'd expect some camouflage and a bit more space around the guns. Plus where are the tractors, ammo vehicles, crew vehicles etc ?
@@nietzchepreacher9477 i mean they did took the effort of translating to English and German what was essentially a soviet 50's kid song to fit this trailer edited to fit the video
One thing that I love about this trailer is how the lyrics are Russian when it focuses on the Russians, German when it focuses on Germans, and of course English when it shows the English. Also the poignancy of how the two commanders face off at the end, then just walk away. It's easy to send men to die when you only see them on paper.
Also there is impllication that the two main soldiers we follow that pass away at the end are the sons of respective commanders. There are close-ins at the photos the commanders had. Pretty tragic
Now At 11:07 is something REALLY cool and interesting. That big "wall" of turning dials is a US Navy Bombe decryption machine that was used to decrypt German communications enciphered with the Enigma machine. It was based on the design by mathematician Alan Turing, The bombe was used to work out the Enigma settings in use each day, allowing messages to be deciphered by allied forces.
Same, it's just too entertaining. Well, when you compare it with the TikTok or SnackVideo ads I often got back-to-back, I'd rather watch this trailer...
Ah yes, the lesser spotted Jonathan Furgason. A variant of the more common service issue Jonathan Ferguson. In all seriousness though, a really interesting take on the trailer and I can't imagine being able to pick up the level of detail in there. Terrific insight as always! Also interesting to hear Jonathan's impression on the lethality and impact of firearms where usually he tends to apprehend the lethality of the tool and focuses on the mechanics of the actual machinery.
Holy shit, that song! I know it from my school days, it's a very uplifting and cheerful song about child's drawing - sun, sky and short poem in the corner that goes "Let there be sun forever let there be sky forever let there be [my] mother forever let there be me forever".
Not sure if Jonathan recognised it but the "Russian NCO" holding the Tokarev Pattern TT pistol at 12:35 is a reference to political commissar Yeremenko, who is featured on the Wikipedia page for the Tok
@@LongVu-lh9el nah, he's not a comissar. You can see Russians wear shoulder boards instead of collar insignias, which means it's 1943+ and there was no comissars at this time. The Red Army abandoned comissars institute during 1943 reforms.
The planes are all over the place : AFAIK P51s were used as bomber escorts, not bomber hunters (by that point in the war Germany wasn't able to do much strategic bombing)
kind of depends, if they had no mission and a large force was heading towards base then why not intercept? shooting down enemy bombers or their escorts still counts as a mission so closer to going home
In regards to the steel body armour, it was indeed worn by Soviet assault engineers during WWII. Not an expert, but unless I am misstaken it was somewhat effective against pistol calibres (at range) and shrapnel.
I watched this a few days ago and was initially excited, then was immediately disappointed to discover it was for a mobile game. The budget for the advert is absurd, and it's very over the top- plays out almost like a Rammstein video. I was hoping for some new series or large scale WW2 FPS, I wonder how the budget for this will stack up against the money actually made by the game
I don't feel qualified to comment on the weapons depicted in this video but at 12:19 I can say with 100% accuracy that is *not* how you use a straight razor to shave.
Minor quip about the anti-tank riflemen: he was aiming for the viewport on the Panzer, he missed. Or maybe he didn’t, we don’t see the Panzer drive forward after the shot, so maybe he did nail the driver.
@@m10tankdestroyer94 That or the body of the driver fell on the driver wheel. Regardless, his (and the sappers) real job was merely to distract the Tiger and cut down infantry support which they did while paying for it. The real attack was that anti-tank grenade on the top of its engine block
I think since he hits dead-centre on the DFP, the idea is that the AT gunner was aiming for the barrel of the radio operator's MG34. Optimistic, certainly, but given how they planned to attack the tank it's a lot more sensible than trying to get a weird oblique hit on the driver.
Just a few notes on the Mosin, no cleaning rods on them which is something I noticed being also the case from the TV show "Shadow and Bone". Secondly, the 91/30 rifles should always have their bayonets attached as was Imperial/Soviet doctrine. I'm guessing this is a safety concern for filming though they could mold a bunch of rubber stand-ins if they really wanted to be authentic.
@@darkhope97 I don't understand what point you're trying to make. Every 91/30 Mosin rifle in the trailer should have a bayonet mounted to it to be historically correct. What does that have to do with hitting people with entrenching spades? Every person in the trailer could have been smacked by a shovel it wouldn't changed the fact that some of the Mosins didn't have bayonets mounted...
@@colbunkmust well to be fair I wasn't making a point just adding info But can you tell for certain that over the whole war there wasn't a single soldier that didnt remove the bayonet?
@@darkhope97 look at pictures from WW1/WW2, almost every single contemporary photo of a 91/30 Mosin except the sniper, carbine and cossack models have bayonets mounted. You'd likely be disciplined if you did remove the bayonet since it violated military doctrine of the time. And since the Russian military didn't issue sheaths for the bayonet, because they were always supposed to be mounted when the rifle was in use, there would be no place to carry it around when not mounted. So you'd likely lose your bayonet and be disciplined for losing government property. Obviously soldiers did removed the bayonets when they were permitted to do so, i.e. for long term equipment storage or for troop transport in motorized vehicles, but the scenes featured in the trailer do not demonstrate those situations so that point is irrelevant. Also, I shouldn't be expected to be able to guarantee that every single Russian soldier serving in the World Wars followed established doctrine to make my point valid. Depictions of history should follow the known rules, not the rare potential exceptions to them.
The first guns (artillery I mean) were 17cm cannon (forget the designation), not Flak. You can tell by the fact that the wheels are not removed from the carriage, the general profile of the carriage and the arrangement of the equilibrators. Very good guns incidentally....
As a bit of an aside, would be great once Covid restrictions are lessened/over if Jonathan could join Ian & Karl at a gun match. Something like Finnish brutality or out at one of the matches they hold in the US. Maybe to break him in gently he could do a video out in Switzerland with Bloke On The Range first? Just imagining how much history we'd get out of that grouping as well as a bit of fun watching them all shoot together.
10:00 On the topic of the grenade, if you watch the front machine gun of the Tiger, it falls silent right after detonation. So I would assume since German top armor was relatively thin, that it not only took out the engine and other components, but the concussion and/or shrapnel took out the crew as well. Those grenades are brutal as hell.
An observation, if this is supposed to be the beginning of the Barbarossa, I don’t think the Germans had Tiger 1 tanks. The Tiger was actually developed as a response to the T34 and KV1 tank they encountered during the invasion. The Tiger was a fairly rare tank to encounter. Also, it seems like every German soldier is equipped with an MP38/40, and very few K98s, whereas the Russians all have Mosin rifles, and there are almost none PPSh41s, kind of a reverse situation.
Soviets are wearing Type 1943 uniforms. It is very typical of a Soviet and Russian media to overrepresent the number of automatic weapons Germans used. It’s a propaganda trick, to make one believe that weak and under equipped Red Army defeated a much stronger enemy.
10:12 Soviets used special assault engineer squads at the end of WW2 (from 1943 onwards): they were equipped with flamethrowers, a lot of submachine guns, a lot of grenades and that exact type of body armor called SN-42. They were used in city fights and especially to take heavily fortified positions.
Sort of good! :D The German infantry colonel is wearing the 1957 denazified version of the Knight's Cross. Sure it may be the swastika censorship, but at the same time, the one on the Reichsadler on his breast and on his cap are fine, so what gives? Personally I find it a bit unsettling, that the game developers are replacing the happy windmill with the Iron Cross (as seen on the standard in the background), because it kind of dilutes the real deal history and broadcasts a very wrong message. I know it's because of the censorship laws and simple convenience, but on the other hand making this sort of fluffy McWehrmacht without any icky stuff creates an impression zat zey ver not zee baddies. Oh yes, zey vere- leave the swastika where it should be, because that's how it really was and what those people stood for! Also the guy shouting "fire" has an infantry, not artillery uniform- recognized by the white edges on the cap and tunic. The gun seems to be a 17 cm K18 for the Germans, then a Soviet 45 mm M37 AT gun and then 76 mm M39 gun. There was also a 12.7 mm DShK flying around and obviously the Maxim 1910/30 MG. Then the Tiger- a replica based on I believe a BMP or MTLB chassis with T-34 tracks attached on the front. The Soviet kit looks like M43 pattern. A tank has a lot of squishy parts, but they're usually not located at the front- this is where it's supposed to be hit, so no point shooting there. I like the gunner's breastplate- totally a thing with combat engineers and shock troops! Would stop a pistol round and a shrapnel- nothing more. Realistic to be punched by 8mm Mauser! Oh, and good luck throwing a bundle of stick grenades on the engine deck from that distance. As a Pole I also love the Bletchley Park decryption scene! The tactics I won't talk about, because that's not how you fight with tanks on open terrain, obviously you don't go into a medieval melee in open terrain. The dead TT officer is a recreation of the famous photo- the guy supposedly did get killed a few seconds after taking the picture. Cheers from a nerd!
what was real good inmy opinion is how the music vocals language changed, when the mustangs were taking over the show the song went into english but as soon as the russians got back the vocals went into russian too. A nice little touch. also the russians did actually have steel bodyarmor, the SN-42 was the most used one iirc it is around 2mm thick and was mostly used by assault engineers but I think any guy would pick one up if he could get away with it, must have been heavy and cumbersome.
The body armour he's using in the video was used by the Soviet combat sappers units it was capable of deflecting pistol and low caliber rounds, in this situation Its being used it it's very accurate they were great for urban fighting as shown here but we're to heavy for combat in open spaces
The german artillery pieces in the beginning were german 21cm Mörser 18 , but far too large . The Soviet gun that was blown to pieces at 4:05 I believe was a 76mm multipurpose gun
I'd be interested to hear Jonathan's opinion of PFC (Plug Firing Cap) guns, which are also used in film and tv quite a lot as they use one charge to make muzzle flash and a separate one in the same cartridge to cycle the gun and eject the cartridge so they can look very realistic but without the risks of accidentally muzzle-loading shrapnel in to a blank-firing weapon and taking out your colleagues.
Great video as always! This trailer randomly came up before a RUclips video a while ago and I ended up watching the whole thing, simply because the production values impressed me. On a separate note, if it's not on your radar already, I'd be interested to see you examine the weapons in Far Cry 2 (or a sequel, but 2 was my favourite), since it used mechanical degradation and stoppages in weapons. They also had some weird ones in there, like a Carl Gustav and an LPO-50.
A little tidbit on the moment at 13:05 that is actually a reference to political officer Alexey Gordeevich Yeremenko who had a tokarev and had the exact same pose in a photo who was reported to have been killed minutes after its capture.
I think the AT rifle was actually being fired at the Tiger's driver view port. Still may have been a better idea to fire at the side armor but eh I am certainly no soldier or tactician. I assume the purpose was to halt the column to enable the ambush of the ground troops as even with a dead driver a tiger is still plenty dangerous.
And 2 penetrations of the Tiger thickest plate with the 85mm gun, which was very unlikely to happen let alone near the edges of this plate. The place where it is backed with a side plate welded together.
@@HanSolo__ Depending on when it the tank was made I understand that German tank armour was becoming less effective due to the inability to get hold of Tungsten and other rarer metals. So not impossible at close range. Of course its a trailer for a game so who knows what's going on.
@@tomalong99 Agree on "German tank armor" degrading as war progress. However, I have never come across evidence of such degradation when it comes to the Tiger. Other tanks, like Panther, King Tiger, or SPGs/TDs like Jagdpanther - sure.
@Brian Rodas What you wrote is not accurate and refers to RHA. Which not what Tiger's upper plate is made of. After the war, Soviet so-called "field tests" revealed penetrating upper hull armor of the Tiger with an 85mm. Which, in fact, on photos is not even this part of the tank. I presume. It does not need to be even a piece of a tank. The same documents claim that 85mm of T-34 is more accurate than 122mm of IS-2 called "supreme" in accuracy over the 8,8cm KwK, which is flat-out laughable. I've also read some Soviet documents with "Finnish tankers regarding the 85mm used in the T-34 as a gun better and more potent if compared to 8,8cm." Absurd. 122mm from IS-2 is not an anti-tank gun. Its penetration capabilities are not nearly as effective as the sheer energy the heavy projectile bring to the target. This was shown in cases of hits against Tiger upper hull plate affecting it not by penetration but rather caving - bending the plate and pushing it inside the tank. So you can tall 122mm is not a precise tool to make round holes in Tigers. The same is true when it comes to 76 from M4. On paper 100% sure penetration. In real life not so much. And this is from the veterans, the people that actually "pulled" the 76 triggers. Yes, "Fury" movie shows an accurate picture. No matter how many internet armchair experts shout it is not. I take the veteran's word (of Red Army too) as well as Chieftain's word as decisive and final. On top of mentioned. Until late 1944 there were zero losses among Tiger tanks when it comes to penetrating its upper hull plate. Not a single piece of evidence was ever found claiming the opposite. During 1945 it was so rare that documents from the eastern front (showed after the end of the war - I'm mostly OK with that) are very questionable. And the documentation from the west is so rare to a level of maybe 10-12 actual cases. That is far less than the angled frontal hull of the King Tiger. These you can find a lot.
@@tomalong99 They had major manufacturing process malfunction. From overcooked armor plates of Panthers - cracking under hit. To Jagdpanthers huge frontal plates not being surface heat treated at all. As it came it could behave better than the cracking one, and you are still far faster in delivering the vehicle to troops.
That kinda body armor did exist. It was used exclusively by Assualt Sappers in the red army and was known to be almost impervious to small caliber pistol fire
Would be cool to see you react to firearms from movies and TV as well! What they get right/ wrong, inspirations for fictional or scifi weapons. Keep up the great work!
Is anyone going to point out the fact that the soviet anti-material PTRD rifle would not have created such a big spark as their ammunition were just ball type + the shot the soldier took would not have ben able to penetrate the tank armor since the way the ammunition works for those is that they gain speed over distance, so at that distance + the angle he was shooting from, it would have ben a ricochet.
The steel plate body armor was used with soviet sappers and could stop pistol rounds which is why he only dies when the high power rounds of the tank’s mgs hit him and not to the mp40s
They did fire at the front gunner view port though at 7:56. almost hit the port window. Wouldn't have done much to deter the actual cannon but I'm guessing they were trying to blind the front gunner so they could get close enough to the tank to use explosives. Just my guess since the rest of the trailer is decently accurate when it comes to the weapons and uses of them. Although the scene with the armored Russian holding the bipod of the DP28 like Rambo wasn't very realistic but then again he did get torn to shreds immediately so the scene was redeemed pretty quick lol
@@spencerw9784 if you watch many documentaries, play ww2 games, etc; its very easy to learn (you can literally show me any ww2 gun and i will guess it, i loved watching ww2 documentaries from when i was a kid)
I'd LOVE to see your take on the Escape from Tarkov short film, by the way. I've seen Special Forces reaction videos where they're utterly blown away by the realism.
Some observations on my side: - I'm not sure with air war history but how plausible is it for American P-51D to intercept a huge formation of German bombers (I assume to be He 111 escorted by Bf 109). Since P-51D came out in 44, Germany was already in defense and I doubt they still sent a huge London Blitz style bomber formation. - The officer with Tokarev looks like a tribute to a famous photo of Soviet young Liutenant charging a German position and like in the ad supposedly he died after the picture was taken (someone already mentioned it and said the photo was titled Kombat).
For the body armor question thing, that’s supposed to be the plate used by Russian Sappers during WWII, it is not bulletproof IIRC, but it can stop shrapnel
It would be cool to see a video of guns found in the UK like homemade or ones takes from gangs. Would just be interested to see what is used in gun crime around England
So it looks like the artillery piece at 3:56 that gets blown sky high is a 76mm Divisional Gun M-1939 (ZIS-22-USV likely, wartime production variant) with the barrel and recoil buffer stuck in the rearward travel.
10:15 during WWII the Russians had steel plate body armor known as "Steel Breastplate" or "Stalnoi Nagrudnik", it consisted of 2 pressed steel plates that protected the front torso and groin. The steel plates were 2mm (.08") and weighed 3.5kg (7.7lbs). This armor was supplied to SHIBr (assault engineers).
according to armorer Zach Hazard, 155mm NATO and 35mm bushmaster are both small arms in the US army. because he, a small arms repairman, had to service them.
Not very important, but I think it’s good to note that every German has mp38/40s which really wouldn’t happen due to the fact that we’ll German squads had many riflemen and a machine gunner with some sub machine gunners and a squad leader/ ass. Squad leader
I know it’s pretty late but the soviets did actually use metal body armour, it was typically scarce and was mainly used to protect the vitals from shrapnel and other debris and maybe a bullet if you were lucky.
Didn't mention air mounted mg at 11:36 with the (in)famous saddlebag magazine) It should be an mg15, but it wasn't enough for me to recognize whether it was cgi'ed correctly. What do you think, Jonathan?
the guy raising his tokarev and immediately dying is actually a historical thing he was photoed in that iconic pose right before he got shot, and its a very well-known photo in post-soviet area
To me the artillery at the beginning looks more like a 120mm or 128 mm Cannon which was used on the experimental tank destroyer called the Sturer Emil, or those could be 105 mm artillery cannons similar to the ones used on the German Nashorn artillery tank/tank destroyer
Could you imagine a collab video parody of this with Ian & Othias? (But it doesn't stick to just WW2, possibly changing each cutaway, afterall Ian is a man of many hats...)
Honestly, the fact that they went to the effort to actually have each side using weapons that were *actually* used by that side is nice to see. Like, you would think that's the bare minimum when making a piece of period war media, but apparently that was too much to expect from Call of Duty or Battlefield.
“Look at me, Gamespot, *I* am the video game channel now” ;)
Have you ever heard of the Tradegy of Gamespot the channel? It a tale johnathan furgerson wont tell you...
@@ariza7654 Its a old gamers legend
@@karasek2001 can I learn this power???
@@wastedangelematis not from the gamespot
Gamespot: NO YOU CANT MAKE GAME RELATED VIDEOS YOU SHOULD COOPERATE WITH-
Jonathon Ferguson: Lmao my collection of guns go brrrrrrrrrrrrr
I would love to see you view on the War Thunder live action trailers :D
ruclips.net/video/VTzHj-R9McA/видео.html
Yes
Yes plz :D
Hell yeah
@@TheRyderShotgunn I think "panzerkampf" matches the video more
The advertising budget on mobile games is Wilde these days
If only the game was just as decent :/
This is one of the rare occasions where there's actual effort put into the ads, the majority of them are just dumb
@@randomstormtrooper3345 it's just always a bit odd to see the marketing budget clearly dwarfing the development budget by such an amount
I have no idea where they got the money for this...
@@L16htW4rr10r microtransactions. There's supossably no free mobile game that can pull off this much budget for their trailers unless they have a shitton of microtransactions.
Really glad to see the Royal Armouries making these videos under their own channel now. These game review videos are awesome. Would love to see a twitch channel pop up where we can watch Jonathan play games and coach him through playing them.
stellar idea mate!
Not warpath though. Such a high budget trailer for disappointing mobile game
@@themanwithallthewrongopini3551 it might not be like the trailer but it's not actually a bad game.
and the worst thing is the game is actually very bad pay to win mobile game and more effort was probably put into the trailer rather than the game
Does that really surprise you?
@@supremeghost7950 I am not mad, just dissapointed
@@szymondabrowski6464 I was really disappointed to find out it was a mobile game after all that.
Not exactly pay to win, just... Generic, unoriginal..
That's a damn shame, because the trailer looked really good
Just wanna add, the Anti tank rifle is aimed at the drivers slab, it can penetrate the armored window and take out the driver, he misses tho
I was gonna exactly say that
This is what i thought after seeing that: "Why...oh, driver's slit, ok but also RIP"
At that angle that is extremely generous
Problem is that that was a early finish anti-material gun and the tank was a PanzerKampfwegan Mark 6 or tiger 1 which had 3inches of thick armor plating in the front.
They fired the PTRD in hopes of killing the driver but also to distract the tank crew, then the armored sapper with LMG cut down the tank's infantry escort, which allowed the infantryman with the grenade pack to get close enough for the throw.
2:28 Those German artillery are not flak 18 or 36, they are 17cm K18 heavy gun. You can see the difference form the carriage.
Can german arty guns can go even bigger ?!
@@madmonsterbbb9131 *laughs in 800 mm schwerer Gustav*
@@madmonsterbbb9131 there was a 21cm heavy mortar, but the gun itself wasn't bigger I believe.
Hmm, for me it looks more like the Mörser 18 (21cm) to be honest. But I could be wrong
Nah, that's the Morser 18
The body armour is probably the SN42 type which was used by the Soviets which was effective against some SMGs and shrapnel.
Not for this bloke though
Doesn’t do much at point blank against full caliber rifle ammo. Probably fairly useful past 400yrds though.
@@mats7492 yeah because he got shot from the lmg of a tank...
I'm a bit surprised Jonathan didn't know much about body armor. The Japanese had like 10 different body armor models throughout ww2 and the russians also had a few
As you put it it was mostly issued to sappers and and front lines engineers to reduce the risk of death from shrapnel
SN 42 Soviet body armour I believe Jonathan, real thing, there were a number of attempts at body armour by various combatants.
Yeah, the body armor is real. It was given to the Soviet assault engineers.
typically used in urban combat by pioneer and shock units i believe.
The heavy artillery guns at 2:16 are 17 cm Kanone 18.
What does a guy named FRENCH know about German artillery
@@JamessprinkleRsuknight wehraboos come from all walks of life :D
Yup
They looked to be awfully close together as a battery deployment, a really good target! I'd expect some camouflage and a bit more space around the guns. Plus where are the tractors, ammo vehicles, crew vehicles etc ?
Aren´t those 21cm?
You're the gun version of the Lock Picking Lawyer.
I think Ian fits that title just as well
@@nickhenley1338 I'd say Ian fits better actually, just because they both diss bad stuff deliciously harshly
No, he is Gun Jesus's British cousin
Lock Picking Lawyer is a firearms expert, or at least owner as well, isn't he?
Yeah, but he doesn't do the same kind of April Fool's day episodes.
Regardless of the accuracy the music and the visuals absolutely slam for what is practically an average mobile game
Too true, but it seems to be the trend for mobile game ads atm. It's a shame that sub-par Dune II clones are the average too.
i kinda disagree on the music
@@nietzchepreacher9477 i mean they did took the effort of translating to English and German what was essentially a soviet 50's kid song to fit this trailer edited to fit the video
@@darkhope97 oh im sure there was lots of effort put into it and i respect them for that, but the music still sounds bad imo.
@@nietzchepreacher9477 fair enough i really like it
Jonathan is turnimg into proper youtube celeb for me 😁
Keep up the good work!
One thing that I love about this trailer is how the lyrics are Russian when it focuses on the Russians, German when it focuses on Germans, and of course English when it shows the English.
Also the poignancy of how the two commanders face off at the end, then just walk away. It's easy to send men to die when you only see them on paper.
Also there is impllication that the two main soldiers we follow that pass away at the end are the sons of respective commanders. There are close-ins at the photos the commanders had. Pretty tragic
Now At 11:07 is something REALLY cool and interesting. That big "wall" of turning dials is a US Navy Bombe decryption machine that was used to decrypt German communications enciphered with the Enigma machine. It was based on the design by mathematician Alan Turing, The bombe was used to work out the Enigma settings in use each day, allowing messages to be deciphered by allied forces.
Naw, that's based on the British one at Bletchley Park, the US Navy one looked different.
I must admit I normally skip the adds when watching on my ipad (addblocker on my pc's) but when this came on, I couldn't help but watch to the end!
Same, it's just too entertaining. Well, when you compare it with the TikTok or SnackVideo ads I often got back-to-back, I'd rather watch this trailer...
Ah yes, the lesser spotted Jonathan Furgason. A variant of the more common service issue Jonathan Ferguson. In all seriousness though, a really interesting take on the trailer and I can't imagine being able to pick up the level of detail in there. Terrific insight as always!
Also interesting to hear Jonathan's impression on the lethality and impact of firearms where usually he tends to apprehend the lethality of the tool and focuses on the mechanics of the actual machinery.
Nice that he says that he is a small-arms expert and doesn't claim to know it all in every kinda weapon
Holy shit, that song! I know it from my school days, it's a very uplifting and cheerful song about child's drawing - sun, sky and short poem in the corner that goes
"Let there be sun forever
let there be sky forever
let there be [my] mother forever
let there be me forever".
that sounds super cheerful and I love it 🥺
Not sure if Jonathan recognised it but the "Russian NCO" holding the Tokarev Pattern TT pistol at 12:35 is a reference to political commissar Yeremenko, who is featured on the Wikipedia page for the Tok
He is a commissar, you can see he wore a leather planshet. Only officers or commissar are allowing to wear them.
@@LongVu-lh9el nah, he's not a comissar. You can see Russians wear shoulder boards instead of collar insignias, which means it's 1943+ and there was no comissars at this time. The Red Army abandoned comissars institute during 1943 reforms.
The planes are all over the place : AFAIK P51s were used as bomber escorts, not bomber hunters (by that point in the war Germany wasn't able to do much strategic bombing)
Yeah - I wasn't sure what P-51s were doing shooting down massed Ju-88's.
kind of depends, if they had no mission and a large force was heading towards base then why not intercept? shooting down enemy bombers or their escorts still counts as a mission so closer to going home
@@andreww2098 I think the point is that the Luftwaffe didn't have that kind of 'large force' when P-51s were around, especially not in the West.
@@johnquick9849 they did tried to bomb Britain until 44 if my memories are correct so maybe there is one occurence of that happening
This is one of the few adds I don’t skip it’s so good
In regards to the steel body armour, it was indeed worn by Soviet assault engineers during WWII. Not an expert, but unless I am misstaken it was somewhat effective against pistol calibres (at range) and shrapnel.
It was quite effective actually. Surprisingly so. Too bad he got shot with Tiger MG, so tough luck there
Get this man a raise
I watched this a few days ago and was initially excited, then was immediately disappointed to discover it was for a mobile game. The budget for the advert is absurd, and it's very over the top- plays out almost like a Rammstein video. I was hoping for some new series or large scale WW2 FPS, I wonder how the budget for this will stack up against the money actually made by the game
I don't feel qualified to comment on the weapons depicted in this video but at 12:19 I can say with 100% accuracy that is *not* how you use a straight razor to shave.
Minor quip about the anti-tank riflemen: he was aiming for the viewport on the Panzer, he missed. Or maybe he didn’t, we don’t see the Panzer drive forward after the shot, so maybe he did nail the driver.
I doubt the driver was taken out as we see the tank immidiately turning to the right as soon as it's hit
@@m10tankdestroyer94 That or the body of the driver fell on the driver wheel. Regardless, his (and the sappers) real job was merely to distract the Tiger and cut down infantry support which they did while paying for it. The real attack was that anti-tank grenade on the top of its engine block
I think since he hits dead-centre on the DFP, the idea is that the AT gunner was aiming for the barrel of the radio operator's MG34. Optimistic, certainly, but given how they planned to attack the tank it's a lot more sensible than trying to get a weird oblique hit on the driver.
Just a few notes on the Mosin, no cleaning rods on them which is something I noticed being also the case from the TV show "Shadow and Bone".
Secondly, the 91/30 rifles should always have their bayonets attached as was Imperial/Soviet doctrine. I'm guessing this is a safety concern for filming though they could mold a bunch of rubber stand-ins if they really wanted to be authentic.
@Lex Bright Raven It almost always is when it comes to media set in WW1&2 Russia.
Well but ild like the add the prominent place that the shovel take on the trailer as soviet soldiers often used them in close quarters
@@darkhope97 I don't understand what point you're trying to make. Every 91/30 Mosin rifle in the trailer should have a bayonet mounted to it to be historically correct. What does that have to do with hitting people with entrenching spades? Every person in the trailer could have been smacked by a shovel it wouldn't changed the fact that some of the Mosins didn't have bayonets mounted...
@@colbunkmust well to be fair I wasn't making a point just adding info
But can you tell for certain that over the whole war there wasn't a single soldier that didnt remove the bayonet?
@@darkhope97 look at pictures from WW1/WW2, almost every single contemporary photo of a 91/30 Mosin except the sniper, carbine and cossack models have bayonets mounted. You'd likely be disciplined if you did remove the bayonet since it violated military doctrine of the time. And since the Russian military didn't issue sheaths for the bayonet, because they were always supposed to be mounted when the rifle was in use, there would be no place to carry it around when not mounted. So you'd likely lose your bayonet and be disciplined for losing government property.
Obviously soldiers did removed the bayonets when they were permitted to do so, i.e. for long term equipment storage or for troop transport in motorized vehicles, but the scenes featured in the trailer do not demonstrate those situations so that point is irrelevant.
Also, I shouldn't be expected to be able to guarantee that every single Russian soldier serving in the World Wars followed established doctrine to make my point valid. Depictions of history should follow the known rules, not the rare potential exceptions to them.
The first guns (artillery I mean) were 17cm cannon (forget the designation), not Flak. You can tell by the fact that the wheels are not removed from the carriage, the general profile of the carriage and the arrangement of the equilibrators. Very good guns incidentally....
As a bit of an aside, would be great once Covid restrictions are lessened/over if Jonathan could join Ian & Karl at a gun match. Something like Finnish brutality or out at one of the matches they hold in the US. Maybe to break him in gently he could do a video out in Switzerland with Bloke On The Range first?
Just imagining how much history we'd get out of that grouping as well as a bit of fun watching them all shoot together.
Nice rendition of the Turing 'Bombe' at Bletchley park, too.
10:00 On the topic of the grenade, if you watch the front machine gun of the Tiger, it falls silent right after detonation. So I would assume since German top armor was relatively thin, that it not only took out the engine and other components, but the concussion and/or shrapnel took out the crew as well. Those grenades are brutal as hell.
What about Jonathan designing his own sci-fi weapon and 3D printing it to walk through the ideas with us ?
"ok, now you have my attention!"
The artillary is 17cm or 21cm fh18 as the wheles are in frount of the 45% elivation hydroliks
With great respect to Jonathan's and Royal Armouries' work! Hope to see more videos like this one on this channel!
4:05 It's okay Jonathan, if you tried to catch that it would have crushed you
I knew someone would... catch on that one. XD
This has to be the only ad in existance that I refuse to skip lmao
This channel is awesome
I would love to see your take on the game Hell let loose or your take on Squad, both great fps games
He did HLL, Squad I'm not sure
@@Kraakesolv more recently than this comment. He did HLL within the past month or so this comment was 4 months ago
Beyond the wire to when that releases fully too
Can't say i have any interest in it as it's a mobile game, but damn does this trailer have some insane production value
An observation, if this is supposed to be the beginning of the Barbarossa, I don’t think the Germans had Tiger 1 tanks. The Tiger was actually developed as a response to the T34 and KV1 tank they encountered during the invasion. The Tiger was a fairly rare tank to encounter. Also, it seems like every German soldier is equipped with an MP38/40, and very few K98s, whereas the Russians all have Mosin rifles, and there are almost none PPSh41s, kind of a reverse situation.
Soviets are wearing Type 1943 uniforms. It is very typical of a Soviet and Russian media to overrepresent the number of automatic weapons Germans used. It’s a propaganda trick, to make one believe that weak and under equipped Red Army defeated a much stronger enemy.
10:12 Soviets used special assault engineer squads at the end of WW2 (from 1943 onwards): they were equipped with flamethrowers, a lot of submachine guns, a lot of grenades and that exact type of body armor called SN-42. They were used in city fights and especially to take heavily fortified positions.
To add to that the uniforms do represent that late period thoses are the m43 gymnasterkas
Sort of good! :D The German infantry colonel is wearing the 1957 denazified version of the Knight's Cross. Sure it may be the swastika censorship, but at the same time, the one on the Reichsadler on his breast and on his cap are fine, so what gives? Personally I find it a bit unsettling, that the game developers are replacing the happy windmill with the Iron Cross (as seen on the standard in the background), because it kind of dilutes the real deal history and broadcasts a very wrong message. I know it's because of the censorship laws and simple convenience, but on the other hand making this sort of fluffy McWehrmacht without any icky stuff creates an impression zat zey ver not zee baddies. Oh yes, zey vere- leave the swastika where it should be, because that's how it really was and what those people stood for!
Also the guy shouting "fire" has an infantry, not artillery uniform- recognized by the white edges on the cap and tunic. The gun seems to be a 17 cm K18 for the Germans, then a Soviet 45 mm M37 AT gun and then 76 mm M39 gun. There was also a 12.7 mm DShK flying around and obviously the Maxim 1910/30 MG. Then the Tiger- a replica based on I believe a BMP or MTLB chassis with T-34 tracks attached on the front. The Soviet kit looks like M43 pattern. A tank has a lot of squishy parts, but they're usually not located at the front- this is where it's supposed to be hit, so no point shooting there. I like the gunner's breastplate- totally a thing with combat engineers and shock troops! Would stop a pistol round and a shrapnel- nothing more. Realistic to be punched by 8mm Mauser! Oh, and good luck throwing a bundle of stick grenades on the engine deck from that distance. As a Pole I also love the Bletchley Park decryption scene! The tactics I won't talk about, because that's not how you fight with tanks on open terrain, obviously you don't go into a medieval melee in open terrain. The dead TT officer is a recreation of the famous photo- the guy supposedly did get killed a few seconds after taking the picture.
Cheers from a nerd!
The soviet spers used to carry body armor like the one in the video :) Used when operating charges on the frontline
10:12 I remember see photos of the time of them with it ( if u look up “Russians with steel bib”) it was also used in ww1 and 2
I never watched the full trailer for this but the did a hell of a job and I quite enjoyed the take down of this
Enigma encryption machine 10:54 and Alan Turing decrypting machine 11:08. Freaking awesome.
Yeah, very nice they show what is one of the most important turning points in the war
what was real good inmy opinion is how the music vocals language changed, when the mustangs were taking over the show the song went into english but as soon as the russians got back the vocals went into russian too.
A nice little touch.
also the russians did actually have steel bodyarmor, the SN-42 was the most used one iirc it is around 2mm thick and was mostly used by assault engineers but I think any guy would pick one up if he could get away with it, must have been heavy and cumbersome.
In the very first scene where they show the German recruits the song is actually in German, too.
It's not their children in the photos, it's them as children.
The body armour he's using in the video was used by the Soviet combat sappers units it was capable of deflecting pistol and low caliber rounds, in this situation Its being used it it's very accurate they were great for urban fighting as shown here but we're to heavy for combat in open spaces
The german artillery pieces in the beginning were german 21cm Mörser 18 , but far too large . The Soviet gun that was blown to pieces at 4:05 I believe was a 76mm multipurpose gun
I'd be interested to hear Jonathan's opinion of PFC (Plug Firing Cap) guns, which are also used in film and tv quite a lot as they use one charge to make muzzle flash and a separate one in the same cartridge to cycle the gun and eject the cartridge so they can look very realistic but without the risks of accidentally muzzle-loading shrapnel in to a blank-firing weapon and taking out your colleagues.
Great video as always! This trailer randomly came up before a RUclips video a while ago and I ended up watching the whole thing, simply because the production values impressed me. On a separate note, if it's not on your radar already, I'd be interested to see you examine the weapons in Far Cry 2 (or a sequel, but 2 was my favourite), since it used mechanical degradation and stoppages in weapons. They also had some weird ones in there, like a Carl Gustav and an LPO-50.
I am a simple man, I see Jonathan Ferguson and I click.
A little tidbit on the moment at 13:05 that is actually a reference to political officer Alexey Gordeevich Yeremenko who had a tokarev and had the exact same pose in a photo who was reported to have been killed minutes after its capture.
I think the AT rifle was actually being fired at the Tiger's driver view port. Still may have been a better idea to fire at the side armor but eh I am certainly no soldier or tactician. I assume the purpose was to halt the column to enable the ambush of the ground troops as even with a dead driver a tiger is still plenty dangerous.
I love how they show a tiger tanking multiple t34-85 hits
And 2 penetrations of the Tiger thickest plate with the 85mm gun, which was very unlikely to happen let alone near the edges of this plate. The place where it is backed with a side plate welded together.
@@HanSolo__ Depending on when it the tank was made I understand that German tank armour was becoming less effective due to the inability to get hold of Tungsten and other rarer metals. So not impossible at close range. Of course its a trailer for a game so who knows what's going on.
@@tomalong99 Agree on "German tank armor" degrading as war progress. However, I have never come across evidence of such degradation when it comes to the Tiger. Other tanks, like Panther, King Tiger, or SPGs/TDs like Jagdpanther - sure.
@Brian Rodas What you wrote is not accurate and refers to RHA. Which not what Tiger's upper plate is made of. After the war, Soviet so-called "field tests" revealed penetrating upper hull armor of the Tiger with an 85mm. Which, in fact, on photos is not even this part of the tank. I presume. It does not need to be even a piece of a tank. The same documents claim that 85mm of T-34 is more accurate than 122mm of IS-2 called "supreme" in accuracy over the 8,8cm KwK, which is flat-out laughable. I've also read some Soviet documents with "Finnish tankers regarding the 85mm used in the T-34 as a gun better and more potent if compared to 8,8cm." Absurd.
122mm from IS-2 is not an anti-tank gun. Its penetration capabilities are not nearly as effective as the sheer energy the heavy projectile bring to the target. This was shown in cases of hits against Tiger upper hull plate affecting it not by penetration but rather caving - bending the plate and pushing it inside the tank. So you can tall 122mm is not a precise tool to make round holes in Tigers. The same is true when it comes to 76 from M4. On paper 100% sure penetration. In real life not so much. And this is from the veterans, the people that actually "pulled" the 76 triggers. Yes, "Fury" movie shows an accurate picture. No matter how many internet armchair experts shout it is not. I take the veteran's word (of Red Army too) as well as Chieftain's word as decisive and final.
On top of mentioned.
Until late 1944 there were zero losses among Tiger tanks when it comes to penetrating its upper hull plate. Not a single piece of evidence was ever found claiming the opposite. During 1945 it was so rare that documents from the eastern front (showed after the end of the war - I'm mostly OK with that) are very questionable. And the documentation from the west is so rare to a level of maybe 10-12 actual cases. That is far less than the angled frontal hull of the King Tiger. These you can find a lot.
@@tomalong99 They had major manufacturing process malfunction. From overcooked armor plates of Panthers - cracking under hit. To Jagdpanthers huge frontal plates not being surface heat treated at all. As it came it could behave better than the cracking one, and you are still far faster in delivering the vehicle to troops.
I really want to watch a war movie with Jonathan... Please!
That kinda body armor did exist.
It was used exclusively by Assualt Sappers in the red army and was known to be almost impervious to small caliber pistol fire
I don't care about that. The trailer is one of the best I have ever seen
I think the guy at 9:11 is supposed to be a Soviet assault engineer/sapper, so the armor is probably an SN-42
Would be cool to see you react to firearms from movies and TV as well! What they get right/ wrong, inspirations for fictional or scifi weapons. Keep up the great work!
Love your videos, I am looking forward to picking up your new book!
love it. keep 'em coming
Is anyone going to point out the fact that the soviet anti-material PTRD rifle would not have created such a big spark as their ammunition were just ball type + the shot the soldier took would not have ben able to penetrate the tank armor since the way the ammunition works for those is that they gain speed over distance, so at that distance + the angle he was shooting from, it would have ben a ricochet.
The steel plate body armor was used with soviet sappers and could stop pistol rounds which is why he only dies when the high power rounds of the tank’s mgs hit him and not to the mp40s
Depicted use of PTRD gave him PTSD.
great work as always, Jonathan!
thank you!
04:01 76mm Modell 1942 (SIS-3), or perhabs Model 1936 (F-22)
2:16 It's actually a Morser 18, a HUGE gun!
They did fire at the front gunner view port though at 7:56. almost hit the port window. Wouldn't have done much to deter the actual cannon but I'm guessing they were trying to blind the front gunner so they could get close enough to the tank to use explosives. Just my guess since the rest of the trailer is decently accurate when it comes to the weapons and uses of them. Although the scene with the armored Russian holding the bipod of the DP28 like Rambo wasn't very realistic but then again he did get torn to shreds immediately so the scene was redeemed pretty quick lol
The artillery is a 17cm Kanone 18
Very nicely done video Jonathan, really enjoyed watching it.
All budget, soul and creativity went into the trailer instead of the game
Another great Video, thanks Jonathan
Jonathan, I love your content :)
"it's not hard to get this stuff right" says the small arms weapons expert, whom is a museum curator.
As far as World War Two guns go, it is a simple Wikipedia search away my man
@@spencerw9784 if you watch many documentaries, play ww2 games, etc; its very easy to learn (you can literally show me any ww2 gun and i will guess it, i loved watching ww2 documentaries from when i was a kid)
@@potato8606 not to mention that ww2 is probably the most popular war in terms of research and study
I'd LOVE to see your take on the Escape from Tarkov short film, by the way. I've seen Special Forces reaction videos where they're utterly blown away by the realism.
Some observations on my side:
- I'm not sure with air war history but how plausible is it for American P-51D to intercept a huge formation of German bombers (I assume to be He 111 escorted by Bf 109). Since P-51D came out in 44, Germany was already in defense and I doubt they still sent a huge London Blitz style bomber formation.
- The officer with Tokarev looks like a tribute to a famous photo of Soviet young Liutenant charging a German position and like in the ad supposedly he died after the picture was taken (someone already mentioned it and said the photo was titled Kombat).
For the body armor question thing, that’s supposed to be the plate used by Russian Sappers during WWII, it is not bulletproof IIRC, but it can stop shrapnel
"Optimistic to the point of absurdity"
Very British
That Background music tho🔥🔥😳
I'm surprised he didn't mention what looks to me like a mg34 with a drum mag in the plane at 11:34 .
Most likely an MG-15, a cousin of the MG-34 used in aircraft a mounted defensive weapon.
It would be cool to see a video of guns found in the UK like homemade or ones takes from gangs. Would just be interested to see what is used in gun crime around England
So it looks like the artillery piece at 3:56 that gets blown sky high is a 76mm Divisional Gun M-1939 (ZIS-22-USV likely, wartime production variant) with the barrel and recoil buffer stuck in the rearward travel.
10:15 during WWII the Russians had steel plate body armor known as "Steel Breastplate" or "Stalnoi Nagrudnik", it consisted of 2 pressed steel plates that protected the front torso and groin. The steel plates were 2mm (.08") and weighed 3.5kg (7.7lbs). This armor was supplied to SHIBr (assault engineers).
according to armorer Zach Hazard, 155mm NATO and 35mm bushmaster are both small arms in the US army. because he, a small arms repairman, had to service them.
Yes certain valuable units like combat engineers would get them and usually transports. (Body armor) and assault/ shock troops.
I hope you get to check out Rising Storm 2: Vietnam sometime. Some unique weapons in there and the attention to detail is awesome.
I'd love to see Jonathon talk about the gun work in the film The American. It would be really interesting to see if what they do in that is possible.
Not very important, but I think it’s good to note that every German has mp38/40s which really wouldn’t happen due to the fact that we’ll German squads had many riflemen and a machine gunner with some sub machine gunners and a squad leader/ ass. Squad leader
I know it’s pretty late but the soviets did actually use metal body armour, it was typically scarce and was mainly used to protect the vitals from shrapnel and other debris and maybe a bullet if you were lucky.
Kids in the intro was me and everybody that has ever served. Bright eye and thinking war is going to be a fun time. Fun tends to end real quick.
Didn't mention air mounted mg at 11:36 with the (in)famous saddlebag magazine)
It should be an mg15, but it wasn't enough for me to recognize whether it was cgi'ed correctly.
What do you think, Jonathan?
the guy raising his tokarev and immediately dying is actually a historical thing
he was photoed in that iconic pose right before he got shot, and its a very well-known photo in post-soviet area
To me the artillery at the beginning looks more like a 120mm or 128 mm Cannon which was used on the experimental tank destroyer called the Sturer Emil, or those could be 105 mm artillery cannons similar to the ones used on the German Nashorn artillery tank/tank destroyer
F2000 in the background gets an instalike
Could you imagine a collab video parody of this with Ian & Othias?
(But it doesn't stick to just WW2, possibly changing each cutaway, afterall Ian is a man of many hats...)
Honestly, the fact that they went to the effort to actually have each side using weapons that were *actually* used by that side is nice to see. Like, you would think that's the bare minimum when making a piece of period war media, but apparently that was too much to expect from Call of Duty or Battlefield.
The soviet sappers were equiped with body armour for urban combat but took them of for field so they could move fastr