re: mag well hold - either the firearm trainer / choreographer is sophisticated in that manner, to give him an older technique, or they thought it showcased that Omega he's wearing better :)
I think it´s for the Omega. It´s not as odd as him shooting the PPK. one handed 60th style. Anyone that did their basics in the brittish military. midd 80is to midd 90is. might tell us what way they where told to do it.
I think it's been edited. He most likely watched it at a slower speed on RUclips (notice how we don't see the transparent play/pause animation when he resumes the video) and the editor was able to line it up using the times he mentioned.
Yes! Great suggestion!!!! I think anything adopted by a military is generally public domain, hence why we see M4’s, M16 etc… etc… also doesn’t age play a part too? So AK47, 1911, M1 Garand is exempt?
@@afd19850 pretty sure all those examples fall into the military use category. Besides, from what I understand, publishers don't like to promote real life firearms in their games, mostly as a publicity thing. Manufacturers love it tho, even when the gun is tweaked to effectively no longer be considered Licensable.
@C.I.A • Central Intelligence Agency Or devs could do what some games do and use an airsoft/AR15 hybrid. Bit of this, bit of that and call it an “M4”. Don’t FN make the M4 now?
Ginge most western game developers are beyond the reach of AK, so not really a licensing deal needed there. On the other hand western firearms *that are still under patent protection* would need to be licensed, regardless of use by any military. Though most all WWI and WWII designs are in the public domain for appearance and likeness uses, any newer updates to say the 1911 pistol could still need to be licensed. So it would depend on each weapon and what version is used in a movie. Yes, many companies now manufacture a version of the M4 / M16 family including FN and H&K ( because the "exclusive" period of the license to Colt from Armalite has passed iirc ), but the main current M4 in regular U.S. military service is still made by Colt.
@C.I.A • Central Intelligence Agency Wrong. Patents for the M16/m4 are expired. Colt tried sueing bushmaster in the past for using the M4 designation on one of their rifles and Colt lost.
Insufficient praise here for the incredibly subtle Hot Fuzz reference/ quote in relation to jumping through the air, with a gun in each hand, firing. "aaah". Top work Jonathan * chef's kiss *
It is so subtle that I only noticed it the second time I watched this, and it's not like I'm unfamiliar with the reference; Hot Fuzz is possibly my favourite film ever made.
Definitely, also makes far more sense than a PPK. It was used by SAS for UC work as a back-up to their sidearm and primary. That’s where it belong! PS you mean the Wolfram P2K 🤣
I like the return of the PPK And technically it could be a valid choice for infiltration reasons. Checking into some place it makes him look less serious, like just some amateur private security guy with papers to travel. Besides Bond doesn't miss and his shot placement is impeccable, so a .25 ACP will do just fine.
In the books, Bond has a Beretta 418, up until the events of From Russia With Love when it gets caught in his holster. The PPK is forced on him in Dr No as he’s recovering from his injuries, and he really doesn’t like it to begin with. As the film series began with Dr No, he starts off with the PPK (except it was actually the PP), and then onto the P5 and the P99. …I’d love to know why the Beretta 418 appears in the title sequence for The Living Daylights though.
He actually begins with a beretta pocket pistol in Dr.No as well at the beginning where M forces him to trade it for a Walther pp as supposedly his beretta jammed on a previous mission.
@@petersattout3956 And he tries to take his Beretta with him, until M tells him to leave it behind. Further to the book, Fleming managed to mix up the info he was given by the actual Geoffrey Boothroyd who didn't like the Beretta as James Bond's pistol and put the Smith and Wesson Centennial Airweight .38 (no hammer, so can't snag on draw, the almost fatal issue in FRWL) as the "long distance/heavy hitter" in the book instead of the .357 Magnum. The .38 had been offered as an alternative to the PPK for concealed carry, not a complement to it.
@@aaronleverton4221 I remember seeing somewhere that Fleming who was a stickler for detail equipping Bond with the "Berns Martin", shoulder holster which was specifically designed for the snub nose revolver holding it in place by gripping the cylinder with spring and holding it in a upside down position. Of course if you tried that with a Walther it would just fall to the floor.
Good grief more of this type of thing... I need to make may way back to your museum I was there in the late 90's but I was a dumb kid and don't really remember it too well other than the crossbow section really held my interest. Keep up the good work !
I noticed it first time, and got same reaction as you! Really cool detail, they thought well about it, so no smartbutts will be inquiring "wher da casings go?"
@Jay M Good day to you too Jay :) Sound Engineer is not my job title, nor I want to be one. I do work as an editor though. If I see a chance to help, I like to do so. I am sorry I bothered you with this.
@Jay M Talk about complaining about something nobody cares about... got a mirror? I was watching this video at night and constantly had to manually adjust volume which would not be necessary if the audio had been compressed properly. (And yes... I am a trained sound engineer. so such things annoy me because I know how easily they can be addressed.)
Glad to see I wasn't just going mental when I watched the first upload. Was really struggling to follow it so pleased to see it's fixed. As always love the content.
On bonds grip thing, even modern people doing the 'super tactical C clamp' stuff admit to mag holding, because it just gets effing heavy after a while. a few rounds at a range is fine, but patroling all day, then doing this, just effing tired at that point lol
At 3:50 you are surprised that he is using a SIG and not his PPK. At this point in the film (SPOILER alert for anyone having not seen the film) he is not working for the British Government he is working for the CIA, so he would have been issued a different firearm. As seen in Skyfall his PPKS is issued to him by Q so government property.
i think the clamped on things on top of the ar's rail are weights, and i really like how the team have tried to point at bond being older by his shooting style.
@@handsomerob1223 given how light recoil with an AR is, especially with an experienced shooter, I have no clue how OP came to the conclusion that Bond, of all people, would put weights on his gun. It's most certainly a light/laser/combo.
At approximately 19:24 in the video, pointing out the rifle Bond is carrying in the forest as the bad guy's vehicle crashes into the log, I'm sure you meant to refer to the weapon as the Beretta ARX 100 rather than 160. To quote Beretta's website, "The ARX160 is a .22 LR tactical training rifle". The ARX 100 is chambered for 5.56mm/.223 Rem. Cheers!
In "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" Telly Savalas seems to imply that only James Bond carries a Walther PPK. Then there is the compressed air powered Walther LP53 pellet pistol Sean Connery displayed in some Bond posters.
I always thought the use of the LP53 was odd, mistaking it at first as a Colt Woodsman or Browning Nomad. I googled this and this is the answer according to copilot: "During Connery’s official 007 photoshoot, the prop manager forgot the PPK, so photographer David Hurn improvised by using an LP53-style air pistol he owned1. Additionally, actor Bernard Lee, who played M in the early Bond films, provided his personal PPK for a scene where Bond receives his new gun, as the desired prop pistol wasn’t available at the time."
11:32 you mention you think Bond is being kitted by the Americans. I think you're absolutely right, it seems Felix & the CIA are supporting Bond, would make sense seeing as he's been away from MI6 and he doesn't seem to be their top 00 anymore.
the optic that you point out frequently is the Vertu C-More sight, which is made by an American company in Manassas, Virginia. The Kobra sight has taller base and is by far a bit thicker.
I really hope at some point a company releases a trailer for their new gun. Just the gun. So I can see Jonathan break it down. That would be peak content right there.
Really enjoyed this and would love to see more videos like it in future, love all the content in general. It does indeed get a bit increasingly silly with each film that the 'Bond' sidearm is still a PPK, iconic or not lol. I imagine something higher-capacity and single-action (and situationally maybe the occasional suppressor and locked slide) would be much more attractive to a super-spy marksman than something with 6 rounds and a notorious trigger pull, lol. Alternatively if they really wanted to go all-in on concealment, I'd think a modern compact polymer-framed option would look quite cool to general audiences and work well on film.
At one point in time in the post-Fleming novels, Bond was encouraged by Felix Leiter to carry an ASP 9mm as his concealable pistol. Which made sense as it had the same amount of bullets, was still easily concealable, and hit harder since it was in 9mm and not .32 or .380.
I thought that when Daniel Craig was picked they wanted to 'modernize' bond and gave him a P99. Was it after Skyfall that they switched back to a PPK? It's been a hot minute since I've watched them all in sequence but I know Skyfall was a tonal shift from modern to a more 'vintage' style again. You can even see it in this film with its color grading and set design - despite some modern flair it still manages to look old.
They're back up iron sights, which you usually don't don't if you have the A-post front sight but it looks cool when you tilt the gun to aim for up close
At 18:49 call me crazy but I think that's maybe some kind of Sig SG 552 rather than an AKS74U, the stock is folded on the wrong side for most 74U's but correct for the Sig and the three pronged flash hider is very SG 552-esque. My guess is a Sig SG 552 with a C-More style of red dot sight :D
Maybe rather than a Sig 226 /228, Bond maybe using a new Walther PPQ. It has happened before with Pierce Brosnan's Bond ditching his PPK for a more modern Walther P99. Looking at the team abseiling down the side of the building, I think the profile of the rifle carried looks more like something similar to a Galil ACE than a AKSU. Bond's M4 could possible be a Demarco C8 (currently in limited UK service) available with a optional 10" CQB barrel. Bonds AKSU looked like it might have had the 40rd RPK mag fitted.
I think the AR variant bond is wielding is intended to be the short barrel version of the Colt Canada/Diemaco C8 carbine, the L119a1. That and the Sig P226 have been weapons of UK special forces for years, probably a nod to Daniel Craig's Bond being a veteran of the Special Boat Service (SBS)
18:50 are you sure this isn't a sig sg552 or similar, stock looks more like the bulky plastic of the sg 55x rifles than the bent metal of an AK side folder.
I think at 18:56 it's actually an MP5 PDW with the stock folded in the truck, it looks like a thicker stock with a different angle than the AKS74u, with a different shaped front sight, and there's a little bit at the front of the hand guard pointing down just before the gas block - that's what I can make out anyway!
Fantastic video! For what it’s worth, I think that’s a Sig 552 at 18:42, rather than an AKS-74U - note the 3-prong flash hider, the hooded front sight, and the right-folding stock. Keep this content coming Royal Armouries!
Very obsolescent. Probably, yes. I'm no pistol expert, but a PPK in .380 seems very concealable from a carry perspective and perfectly adequate from a stopping perspective.
That's not a Kobra at 15:42 - it's a C-more "railway" reflex sight, I use one on my mk18 loadout when I do CQB airsoft - awesome little sight, has very low vision impediment with a very fine frame.
Jonathan! Whatever your salery is, you're not payed enough. Your content is great, and i can not wait to visit the Royal Armouries when i at some point visit Great Britain. Keep the content comming :) You are a legend!
Bonds PPK is supposed to be skeletonized with no grips and the sights filed off. It's supposed to be a tiny weapon easy to hide and smooth with nothing to snag when drawing quickly from under cover.
The brackets on the side of the AR/M4 variant that Bond uses at the end are 45° canted open sights. They are usually foldable and not kept out when not in use unless you are expecting to require them.
The mini guns in the headlights is definitely a practical stunt. Although I’m not sure how they fitted those If they did possibly cgi there. But they placed explosives in the environment and as the car is doing it’s rotation they timed it as perfectly as possible and ignited those… for the effect. :)
At 10:43 I think the picture shown as the mk18 is a standard M4 carbine with a 14.5” barrel not the 10.5” barreled MK18. The m4 is the first image at the top of the Wikipedia article that pops up when you google mk18 rifle, and I suspect it was just copied from there. Bond’s barrel definitely seems longer than a Mk18’s to be fair.
I literally used to do what he is doing as a kid with my toybox of guns. Whenever planning to play pretend, I enjoyed taking mental note of how many guns and props were in a given Bond movie, try and get an approximate to those props and guns from my toybox (was it more the AK rifle style, pick toy for that...or more M4/M16 then chose my toy M16 etc.) and play pretend with that structure. I was always detail-obsessive 😂
The gun shot from the car is an SIG varient. The stock is folded to the right of the gun. (On an am it would be to the left) due to the placing of the pin holding the stock and the locking latch.
The MK 18 you mention where Bond’s support hand grip is close in, is for the camera to get a good shot of his face with the Omega watch he’s wearing during an action scene. The Berretta that Satfin is shooting with a gun-mounted light is a Berretta M9A3. At the end of the movie where Bond faces off with Satfin in the poison garden, Bond takes Satfin’s desert tan M9A3 and shoots him with it.
@12:13 that's the actual bolt carrier group. You can see the ejection port cover below it as well as being right in front of the forward assist on the magnified version, possibly with a nickel or chrome finish. The way the light hits makes the concaved portion of the carrier group look brighter.
That is a A2 iron sight on the front of Bonds quad rail. The A2 is a common configuration that incorporates the gas block into the sights itself. It's also a pain to get off if the pins connecting it to the barral deform.
When talking about the very small mini guns on the car note there are incredibly small hand crank galling in the US in 9mm that I think would fit and with the correct modifications would in fact be automatic and feed correctly in theory. Not going to test this for legal reasons but it's a thought.
The HK MP7 has a C-More red dot sight on it, they are featured a majority of the time in Hollywood productions over EO Techs, with Aimpoints rarely selected The sub-carbine firing through the windshield in the forest, using tracer for no practical reason other than Gee-Wiz! Factor, is an early model SIG 552 with fixed, non-stowable iron sights; also fitted with a C-More red dot
@@KayosWONER C-More had "The Lion's Share" of features since the 1990s as they had a long-term sponsorship deal with Independent Studio Services out of California As ISS provides arms and equipment for at least 65% of American productions, they "steer the trend" with optics C-Mores also have the advantage of looking visually interesting and "Rule of Cool" dictates production design
Great video Jonathan! Also a great contrast with one I just watched on swords, explaining why in movies you often don't get what really happened in history. In short movie armourers are only one of the people involved in the decision what to film, so unless it looks good - makes good TV - and especially if it looks bad, it gets dropped / changed. I suspect the same is true of guns, also the armourer is probably only given a small budget so the same guns are reused to get their moneys worth out of them.
It’s also used by US Navy SPECWARGRU, which created the Mk18 carbine. It’s a little up in the air without watching the movie if he got those from Felix or from MI6, since the SAS also has a similar carbine from Colt Canada.
I like the PPK, it's obviously just used in bond films for fan service because of it being iconic, but I think personally if I was Bond I'd use a Makarov or something
My guess is that Bond's AR platform has a AN/PEQ on it, specific model would be up for debate. Especially if he was kitted out by the US for some reason.
After further review, @Raeed Chowdhury is right, they are canted Iron sights. As much as a AN/PEQ would make more sense, the props department went the tacticool route.
Actually I don’t think that’s the main reason. Well yes obviously the omega needs to be visible. But if you go back to Spectre and Skyfall whenever bond is holding an assault rifle, he’s always holding the weapon the same way with the mag well grip. Go back and watch the Skyfall ending house shootout when Bond is using the HK416. He’s using the same grip style. And go back and watch spectre when Bond and Madeleine are escaping Blofield’s base. Forgot what weapon bond was using there but he’s firing it using the same grip. Go back and watch those scenes.
Is it possible to veiw the full firearms collection? Really enjoy the top floor of the museum and would like to see more, I mean I really enjoy the whole museum I've visted many times.
0:39 If you look in the reflection in the window on the left, it really looks like a shotgun with a pistol grip to me. It has that signature angled back going to a point and everything. Also sounds like a reasonable gun to do some breaching with.
I mean... the man loudly announces himself by name and has mini-guns in his car, so I doubt he'll give up an obsolete handgun any time soon: he's not that subtle a spy.
I always thought it was a case of viewer/watcher name change/censor. There was a scene(like half the movie) in another spy movie (im going to use bond here to speed up explanation). where Bond is stopped by a guard and told to tell who he is and show ID. bond under cover answers whit: Bond James Bond the ID witch we don't really get a clear look* of shows a pic of bond face but the name is Greg Boris (or something else) and some other information. some time later bonds cover is blown. A officer who know who Greg Boris is and looks like, runs into the room shouting that is not Bond that. James Bond a British spy or something like that. another seceen have 3 people shout bonds name and all tree acts as they never heard the name the other are shouting only the one they said. * clear look as we only get a few frame on the ID as its shown to the guard but if you pause the movie you can make out most of the detail including the name and face.
The AR15 bond is Rocking is a L119A1 which is a Diamaco C8 SFW. The wierd things sticking out on the right of the rifle are canted back up iron sights. Placed where they are they work well with current training where the alert ready position consists of just canting the rifle to the left. The MOD bought an awful lot of P226 pistols at one stage.
I have a growing urge to see Ian McCollum from Forgotten Weapons and Jonathan talk about weapons or even have Ian have Jonathan out in the states to shoot some obscure firearms.
Not sure if you know this (appropriate apologies if you do), but they already have done a couple of videos together, mostly about british bullpups, and bullpups in general.
@@trayzen7302 I just checked, usually Ian notes in the title when he features guest speakers like Mr Ferguson, and I think he also has a playlist of those videos on his channel.
I’ve watched several of your videos and I’m coming at this from a none gun owning stand point, when you said the PPK, is obsolescent. I’m interested in this idea, as some one who studied product design, and looking at a gun from strictly a design standpoint. Assuming it’s accurate, is compact, carries sufficient ammunition, is reliable, isn’t too heavy doesn’t have a silly recoil you can still get parts and is deadly, it would still perform its function as well as any new model pistol. With this said how would it be obsolete or any pistol for that matter? It’s something I’m interested by often products have built in obsolescence especially in consumer products but pistols and guns in general fall into a weird grey area. Companies want to make money, gun manufacturers are no different, I suppose they hope for military contracts for the bulk of their income but consumers are going to factor in. How do you build obsolescence into something that could potentially be dangerous to the user if there is inherent weakness that you know about? Or how do you put a life limit on a gun assuming it will still fire and you can still get ammo surely it’s still viable?
Think of it from the perspective of literally trusting your life on it, since Bond would be. It's obsolescent in the sense that you can get modern handguns that are better in pretty much every way that you mentioned. Stack up the Walther PPK against a S&W M&P Shield Plus for example. Walther PPK .380 • Action - Double-Action ( With a notably harsh trigger pull. ) • Weight - 22.4 oz • Length - 6.1 in • Width - 1 in • Height - 3.9 in • Capacity - 6 + 1 • Sights - Fixed Rear Notch and Front Blade S&W M&P Shield Plus 9mm • Action - Double-Action, Striker-Fired • Weight - 20.2 oz • Length - 6.1 in • Width - 0.94 in • Height - 4.6 in • Capacity - 13+1 • Sights - Tritium Night Sights Which one of these would you trust with your life? The Shield has almost the exact same form factor, less weight, better modern sights, a better trigger, and just over double the capacity. It's also worth noting the near 100 year difference in understanding the way firearms are handled and progress in the materials used in their construction. And this is before getting into the modern aftermarket of pistol red dot sights, suppressors, laser sights, and other things that the PPK lacks.
It depends on how you define 'obsolescent' really. The main arguments against the PPK as a viable carry gun in 2021 are size, weight, capacity, power and trigger mechanism. Because of advances in pistol design, you can now get a pistol that is the same size and weight as the PPK, but can hold twice as many rounds and is chambered in a more effective caliber (9mm vs .380 ACP). Alternatively, you can get a pistol that is chambered for the same round and has the same capacity as the PPK, but is much smaller and lighter. Lastly, the PPK has a double-actuon trigger pull for the first shot, and single-action for subsequent shots. This is considered somewhat old fashioned compared to modern striker-fired pistols which have the same trigger pull for every shot. The flip side of this argument is that the PPK is much easier to shoot well than smaller and lighter .380 pistols, or pistols of the same size chambered in 9mm. The more modern guns are easier to carry, but somewhat unpleasant to shoot. The PPK is relatively bulky and heavy, but much easier to control. It's a tradeoff. Better to hit your target with a PPK than miss it with a modern subcompact 9mm. I carry a subcompact 9mm, but I would be perfectly happy carrying a PPK if it was what I happened to have available.
@@Crimsondragon16 Terrific reply. Personally, the Daniel Craig movies going back to "Old Fashioned" tropes of PPKs and Aston Martin DB5 kinda bug me. The Bonds before him all used the latest and greatest gear, so why the retro move? Then you factor in that Craig's Bond used new mobile phone tech (GPS, camera), the DB11 during field work, it begs the question why this approach is not consistent! Can only assume his Bond is something of a hipster.
@@Crimsondragon16 I own an smith and Wesson ppk/s and yea I would definitely not carry this gun if I had a choice it’s definitely a ornament/ range toy. The only time I will ever carry this gun is when I get married. The double action single actions guns I stay away from as a carry gun. Not only is the single action trigger horrendous, but capacity is definitely not compatible to something like a p365 which fires a more powerful round, has higher capacity, brilliant trigger, night sights, rails for accessories, and extremely reliable.
19:03 I feel like that might actually be an hk 21, just because of the handguard and tracers like that in movies are normally associated with machine guns
Thank you for being patient with us about the last video, and thanks for pointing out the mistake! 🤗
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@@SAS1122334455 Nope, all on us!
As well as being keeper of firearms and artillery, Jonathan is master of identifying out-of-focus gun-shaped blobs
I'd bet he can identify out of focus artillery-shaped blobs too 😅
Jonathan Ferguson - expert blob spotter
He literally has a degree in firearms identification
@@DermoNONE he has a BA in Archaeology and a Masters in Museum studies
@@DermoNONE that isn't a thing
re: mag well hold - either the firearm trainer / choreographer is sophisticated in that manner, to give him an older technique, or they thought it showcased that Omega he's wearing better :)
Most likely the Omega.
Probably the latter
For Bond, either would be reasonable. Being into luxury things like that has always been part of the character.
Could be a hold used to keep everything tight in and compact.
I think it´s for the Omega. It´s not as odd as him shooting the PPK. one handed 60th style. Anyone that did their basics in the brittish military. midd 80is to midd 90is. might tell us what way they where told to do it.
This man is a god at stopping EXACTLY at the right moment.
Absolutely!
I think it's been edited. He most likely watched it at a slower speed on RUclips (notice how we don't see the transparent play/pause animation when he resumes the video) and the editor was able to line it up using the times he mentioned.
My friend says it reminds him of the VHS years and pornos.
Jonathan .... can you do a video on your Gamespot series regarding usage and requirement of gun licenses in video games?
Cheers!
Yes! Great suggestion!!!!
I think anything adopted by a military is generally public domain, hence why we see M4’s, M16 etc… etc… also doesn’t age play a part too? So AK47, 1911, M1 Garand is exempt?
@@afd19850 pretty sure all those examples fall into the military use category. Besides, from what I understand, publishers don't like to promote real life firearms in their games, mostly as a publicity thing. Manufacturers love it tho, even when the gun is tweaked to effectively no longer be considered Licensable.
@C.I.A • Central Intelligence Agency Or devs could do what some games do and use an airsoft/AR15 hybrid. Bit of this, bit of that and call it an “M4”. Don’t FN make the M4 now?
Ginge most western game developers are beyond the reach of AK, so not really a licensing deal needed there. On the other hand western firearms *that are still under patent protection* would need to be licensed, regardless of use by any military. Though most all WWI and WWII designs are in the public domain for appearance and likeness uses, any newer updates to say the 1911 pistol could still need to be licensed. So it would depend on each weapon and what version is used in a movie. Yes, many companies now manufacture a version of the M4 / M16 family including FN and H&K ( because the "exclusive" period of the license to Colt from Armalite has passed iirc ), but the main current M4 in regular U.S. military service is still made by Colt.
@C.I.A • Central Intelligence Agency
Wrong. Patents for the M16/m4 are expired. Colt tried sueing bushmaster in the past for using the M4 designation on one of their rifles and Colt lost.
Insufficient praise here for the incredibly subtle Hot Fuzz reference/ quote in relation to jumping through the air, with a gun in each hand, firing. "aaah". Top work Jonathan * chef's kiss *
It is so subtle that I only noticed it the second time I watched this, and it's not like I'm unfamiliar with the reference; Hot Fuzz is possibly my favourite film ever made.
Thank you Jonathan for explaining what these vaguely gun-shaped blobs are :D
I know right?!? O.o
I kinda wish James Bond stuck with the Walther P99 because he used that in most of the video games which I also grew up with.
Definitely, also makes far more sense than a PPK. It was used by SAS for UC work as a back-up to their sidearm and primary. That’s where it belong!
PS you mean the Wolfram P2K 🤣
@@afd19850 Yes! Man, I can't believe I still remember all the fake names they made for those games too. Man, my nostalgia is overloading.
@@gameragodzilla I always liked the Meyer Bullpup and Mustang (M4) lol
The Klobb was the VZ Skorpion in Goldeneye
Yeah I dug when they introduced the P99 in Tomorrow Never Dies. It felt like a genuine update and was nice to see.
I like the return of the PPK
And technically it could be a valid choice for infiltration reasons. Checking into some place it makes him look less serious, like just some amateur private security guy with papers to travel.
Besides Bond doesn't miss and his shot placement is impeccable, so a .25 ACP will do just fine.
In the books, Bond has a Beretta 418, up until the events of From Russia With Love when it gets caught in his holster. The PPK is forced on him in Dr No as he’s recovering from his injuries, and he really doesn’t like it to begin with.
As the film series began with Dr No, he starts off with the PPK (except it was actually the PP), and then onto the P5 and the P99.
…I’d love to know why the Beretta 418 appears in the title sequence for The Living Daylights though.
He actually begins with a beretta pocket pistol in Dr.No as well at the beginning where M forces him to trade it for a Walther pp as supposedly his beretta jammed on a previous mission.
@@petersattout3956 And he tries to take his Beretta with him, until M tells him to leave it behind.
Further to the book, Fleming managed to mix up the info he was given by the actual Geoffrey Boothroyd who didn't like the Beretta as James Bond's pistol and put the Smith and Wesson Centennial Airweight .38 (no hammer, so can't snag on draw, the almost fatal issue in FRWL) as the "long distance/heavy hitter" in the book instead of the .357 Magnum. The .38 had been offered as an alternative to the PPK for concealed carry, not a complement to it.
@@aaronleverton4221 I remember seeing somewhere that Fleming who was a stickler for detail equipping Bond with the "Berns Martin", shoulder holster which was specifically designed for the snub nose revolver holding it in place by gripping the cylinder with spring and holding it in a upside down position. Of course if you tried that with a Walther it would just fall to the floor.
@@culshie I remember that from Raymond Benson's James Bond Bedside Companion, photo of said holster and all.
@@culshie I saw that in the short story, "for your eyes only". where he sneeks into Vermont from Canada to do a private assasination for M.
15:39 Actually a C-More red dot, very similar lay out
18:51 I think that's actually a Sig 553 w/ another C-More. Guess the armorer's a fan
Yeah definitely agree
Yep, that's most likely 553, because stock of AKS-74U folds to the left, when on 550 series its folded to the right
My guess was a Sig 552/3 as well
@@CAARaeed its a shorty sig, the compensator is cut like sig and the stock looks like sig.
I agree
“Hey we’re going shooting bad guys in the woods, bring the tracer rounds!”
Smokey the Bear: *sobbing*
Once upon a time, if they were British Woods, they were damp year round. :)
@@uncletiggermclaren7592 Now just more often, still not Roman Britain climate.
@@uncletiggermclaren7592 looks that way in the shot to me too. Decidedly lush.
Lol
Good grief more of this type of thing... I need to make may way back to your museum I was there in the late 90's but I was a dumb kid and don't really remember it too well other than the crossbow section really held my interest. Keep up the good work !
I never noticed the spent cartridges coming out of the vent on the DB5's fender when he fires the miniguns. Nice touch!
It occurred to me that it ought to happen and lo and behold it did.
I noticed it first time, and got same reaction as you! Really cool detail, they thought well about it, so no smartbutts will be inquiring "wher da casings go?"
Note to the editor: A compressor in Jonathan's microphone audio will get rid of some of the peaking and give a better viewing experience
@Jay M Good day to you too Jay :) Sound Engineer is not my job title, nor I want to be one. I do work as an editor though. If I see a chance to help, I like to do so. I am sorry I bothered you with this.
@Jay M I care, and I think it helps. If you've got nothing constructive or nice to say why even bother to be mean?
@Jay M who asked
@Jay M Talk about complaining about something nobody cares about... got a mirror? I was watching this video at night and constantly had to manually adjust volume which would not be necessary if the audio had been compressed properly. (And yes... I am a trained sound engineer. so such things annoy me because I know how easily they can be addressed.)
@Chris because your phone compresses sound... duh
Jonathan’s taste in interior decorating is adding some good lore to this series
Glad to see I wasn't just going mental when I watched the first upload. Was really struggling to follow it so pleased to see it's fixed. As always love the content.
11:25 Good to know Lend-Lease is still a thing.
On bonds grip thing, even modern people doing the 'super tactical C clamp' stuff admit to mag holding, because it just gets effing heavy after a while. a few rounds at a range is fine, but patroling all day, then doing this, just effing tired at that point lol
Хоть я и не все понимаю, но очень приятно слушать Вас, Джонатан. Продолжайте в том же духе!
At 3:50 you are surprised that he is using a SIG and not his PPK. At this point in the film (SPOILER alert for anyone having not seen the film) he is not working for the British Government he is working for the CIA, so he would have been issued a different firearm. As seen in Skyfall his PPKS is issued to him by Q so government property.
jonathans room looked EXACTLY like i thought it would lmao. including a back to the future reference.
The attachment on the AR-15 is an angle mounted iron sight, it is visible on the production pictures and on one of the posters too.
Thanks for the fixed version, but I will miss Jonathan describing a guy falling off a 160ft bridge as 'abseiling'.
Jonathan would make a great Q!
this reupload solves a lot of my previous confusion, cheers!
i think the clamped on things on top of the ar's rail are weights, and i really like how the team have tried to point at bond being older by his shooting style.
I went to flashlight, any chance of that?
Was it common to add weights to a rifle for recoil reduction? Is there another reason
@@handsomerob1223 given how light recoil with an AR is, especially with an experienced shooter, I have no clue how OP came to the conclusion that Bond, of all people, would put weights on his gun. It's most certainly a light/laser/combo.
Perhaps he meant prop weights looking like light or laser. To literally give weight to Craig’s weapon handling on screen.
@@Lomi311 He was mentioning it in reference to Bond's shooting style though, so it's in universe, not out.
At approximately 19:24 in the video, pointing out the rifle Bond is carrying in the forest as the bad guy's vehicle crashes into the log, I'm sure you meant to refer to the weapon as the Beretta ARX 100 rather than 160. To quote Beretta's website, "The ARX160 is a .22 LR tactical training rifle". The ARX 100 is chambered for 5.56mm/.223 Rem. Cheers!
In "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" Telly Savalas seems to imply that only James Bond carries a Walther PPK. Then there is the compressed air powered Walther LP53 pellet pistol Sean Connery displayed in some Bond posters.
I always thought the use of the LP53 was odd, mistaking it at first as a Colt Woodsman or Browning Nomad. I googled this and this is the answer according to copilot:
"During Connery’s official 007 photoshoot, the prop manager forgot the PPK, so photographer David Hurn improvised by using an LP53-style air pistol he owned1. Additionally, actor Bernard Lee, who played M in the early Bond films, provided his personal PPK for a scene where Bond receives his new gun, as the desired prop pistol wasn’t available at the time."
Love your work
chance?
lovely.
British love to do it somethings, you dont get. but its sweet as someone with the production.
11:32 you mention you think Bond is being kitted by the Americans. I think you're absolutely right, it seems Felix & the CIA are supporting Bond, would make sense seeing as he's been away from MI6 and he doesn't seem to be their top 00 anymore.
Makes no sense both of them were on the c 130 with Q getting kitted out from their arnory
Jonathan, I'm glad you are in the position you are in. RA is a national treasure.
Ana De Armas is going to make this movie worth seeing all on her own. So incredibly gorgeous 🤩
This mad lad can see a 3 pixel black smudge for .7 seconds and tell us the exact make, model, and derivative. you rock Jonathan!
3:30 “firing two guns and going ahh” is that a Hot Fuzz reference? Well played sir
Looks like you're a keeper of much more than just firearms and artilery. Nice swords back there.
I think they did a pretty good job with the suppressor at the end of Casino Royale, so maybe they will change it?
Thanks for the insights Jon! Always informative and enjoyable!
the optic that you point out frequently is the Vertu C-More sight, which is made by an American company in Manassas, Virginia. The Kobra sight has taller base and is by far a bit thicker.
I really hope at some point a company releases a trailer for their new gun. Just the gun. So I can see Jonathan break it down. That would be peak content right there.
Really enjoyed this and would love to see more videos like it in future, love all the content in general.
It does indeed get a bit increasingly silly with each film that the 'Bond' sidearm is still a PPK, iconic or not lol. I imagine something higher-capacity and single-action (and situationally maybe the occasional suppressor and locked slide) would be much more attractive to a super-spy marksman than something with 6 rounds and a notorious trigger pull, lol. Alternatively if they really wanted to go all-in on concealment, I'd think a modern compact polymer-framed option would look quite cool to general audiences and work well on film.
It's legit around the same size as the new Smith & Wesson m&p Shield Plus and has half the capacity.
At one point in time in the post-Fleming novels, Bond was encouraged by Felix Leiter to carry an ASP 9mm as his concealable pistol. Which made sense as it had the same amount of bullets, was still easily concealable, and hit harder since it was in 9mm and not .32 or .380.
I thought that when Daniel Craig was picked they wanted to 'modernize' bond and gave him a P99. Was it after Skyfall that they switched back to a PPK? It's been a hot minute since I've watched them all in sequence but I know Skyfall was a tonal shift from modern to a more 'vintage' style again. You can even see it in this film with its color grading and set design - despite some modern flair it still manages to look old.
@@BT-ex7ko Casino and Quantum used the P99, Skyfall with its retro goodness switched back to the PPK.
Why single-action?
TIL: frame by frame on youtube. Thank you, Jonathan!
They're back up iron sights, which you usually don't don't if you have the A-post front sight but it looks cool when you tilt the gun to aim for up close
At 18:49 call me crazy but I think that's maybe some kind of Sig SG 552 rather than an AKS74U, the stock is folded on the wrong side for most 74U's but correct for the Sig and the three pronged flash hider is very SG 552-esque. My guess is a Sig SG 552 with a C-More style of red dot sight :D
Maybe rather than a Sig 226 /228, Bond maybe using a new Walther PPQ. It has happened before with Pierce Brosnan's Bond ditching his PPK for a more modern Walther P99. Looking at the team abseiling down the side of the building, I think the profile of the rifle carried looks more like something similar to a Galil ACE than a AKSU. Bond's M4 could possible be a Demarco C8 (currently in limited UK service) available with a optional 10" CQB barrel. Bonds AKSU looked like it might have had the 40rd RPK mag fitted.
I think the AR variant bond is wielding is intended to be the short barrel version of the Colt Canada/Diemaco C8 carbine, the L119a1. That and the Sig P226 have been weapons of UK special forces for years, probably a nod to Daniel Craig's Bond being a veteran of the Special Boat Service (SBS)
Brilliant video Johnathan, would love to see more of this type of review
18:50 are you sure this isn't a sig sg552 or similar, stock looks more like the bulky plastic of the sg 55x rifles than the bent metal of an AK side folder.
That AR handguard looks like regular KAC RAS, with Picatiny rail covers in some shots
I think at 18:56 it's actually an MP5 PDW with the stock folded in the truck, it looks like a thicker stock with a different angle than the AKS74u, with a different shaped front sight, and there's a little bit at the front of the hand guard pointing down just before the gas block - that's what I can make out anyway!
It’s a Sig 552 or 556 commando with a folding stock
Jonathan has my dream job, I collect obscure and famous firearms and would love to pick firearms for movies
Fantastic video! For what it’s worth, I think that’s a Sig 552 at 18:42, rather than an AKS-74U - note the 3-prong flash hider, the hooded front sight, and the right-folding stock.
Keep this content coming Royal Armouries!
Where did you get those curtains, damn
Very obsolescent. Probably, yes. I'm no pistol expert, but a PPK in .380 seems very concealable from a carry perspective and perfectly adequate from a stopping perspective.
I love Jonathan, they should give him budget for a set up so his videos are better quality
You’ve got gold here, Royal Armouries…we need more!
That's not a Kobra at 15:42 - it's a C-more "railway" reflex sight, I use one on my mk18 loadout when I do CQB airsoft - awesome little sight, has very low vision impediment with a very fine frame.
Love the Highlander and Blade swords behind you! As well as the Viper model.
Jonathan! Whatever your salery is, you're not payed enough. Your content is great, and i can not wait to visit the Royal Armouries when i at some point visit Great Britain. Keep the content comming :) You are a legend!
Bonds PPK is supposed to be skeletonized with no grips and the sights filed off. It's supposed to be a tiny weapon easy to hide and smooth with nothing to snag when drawing quickly from under cover.
You're thinking of the Beretta 418 he had in the earlier novels. He got the PPK in Dr. No, and he didn't make any modifications to it.
C-more dot sights and 16:10 probably flip up backup sight or 45 degree sight.
The brackets on the side of the AR/M4 variant that Bond uses at the end are 45° canted open sights. They are usually foldable and not kept out when not in use unless you are expecting to require them.
Nothing about the Mk 41 VLS at 17:55? Hard to tell what the missile is with the hot launch but looks too small for SM-1/2 so probably a Tomahawk?
Those are some bloody fantastic curtains.
Dude, I had no Idea you could use , and . to go frame by frame, thank you!
3:26 The best line ever said
The mini guns in the headlights is definitely a practical stunt. Although I’m not sure how they fitted those If they did possibly cgi there. But they placed explosives in the environment and as the car is doing it’s rotation they timed it as perfectly as possible and ignited those… for the effect. :)
Fun Fact: When Jonathan paused at 4:50, the assault rifle being pointed upward in the bad guy’s hand is an Hk 416.
At 10:43 I think the picture shown as the mk18 is a standard M4 carbine with a 14.5” barrel not the 10.5” barreled MK18. The m4 is the first image at the top of the Wikipedia article that pops up when you google mk18 rifle, and I suspect it was just copied from there. Bond’s barrel definitely seems longer than a Mk18’s to be fair.
I literally used to do what he is doing as a kid with my toybox of guns. Whenever planning to play pretend, I enjoyed taking mental note of how many guns and props were in a given Bond movie, try and get an approximate to those props and guns from my toybox (was it more the AK rifle style, pick toy for that...or more M4/M16 then chose my toy M16 etc.) and play pretend with that structure. I was always detail-obsessive 😂
The gun shot from the car is an SIG varient. The stock is folded to the right of the gun. (On an am it would be to the left) due to the placing of the pin holding the stock and the locking latch.
I've been looking for that Sunstar DeLorean time machine but it is stupid expensive now, i have a stock and a golden one
The MK 18 you mention where Bond’s support hand grip is close in, is for the camera to get a good shot of his face with the Omega watch he’s wearing during an action scene.
The Berretta that Satfin is shooting with a gun-mounted light is a Berretta M9A3. At the end of the movie where Bond faces off with Satfin in the poison garden, Bond takes Satfin’s desert tan M9A3 and shoots him with it.
"Chucking a gun to a lady"
Idky I find this so funny.
This’d be awesome to see movie weapon breakdowns like gamespot does the game weapon breakdowns! Great stuff!
Bond should use the Walther PPS mk2 for discrete carry, and the PDP for less than covert work.
@12:13 that's the actual bolt carrier group. You can see the ejection port cover below it as well as being right in front of the forward assist on the magnified version, possibly with a nickel or chrome finish. The way the light hits makes the concaved portion of the carrier group look brighter.
Johnathon, your “Blade” replica sword is amazing, thank you for your time
That is a A2 iron sight on the front of Bonds quad rail. The A2 is a common configuration that incorporates the gas block into the sights itself. It's also a pain to get off if the pins connecting it to the barral deform.
I really like your curtains.
That's not a euphemism.
im not into guns at all, but i like to watch jonathans videos. it seems as if he knows what he is talking about
When talking about the very small mini guns on the car note there are incredibly small hand crank galling in the US in 9mm that I think would fit and with the correct modifications would in fact be automatic and feed correctly in theory. Not going to test this for legal reasons but it's a thought.
Two Johnathan Ferguson videos in 1 day, and that happens to be my birthday!
Thanks guys. I will make this about me :)
I mentioned this in a past vid....this guy is the REAL Q!
"it's absolutely nonsense, but it looks amazing" lol he just described most action movies. Thanks for the vid 👍
The HK MP7 has a C-More red dot sight on it, they are featured a majority of the time in Hollywood productions over EO Techs, with Aimpoints rarely selected
The sub-carbine firing through the windshield in the forest, using tracer for no practical reason other than Gee-Wiz! Factor, is an early model SIG 552 with fixed, non-stowable iron sights; also fitted with a C-More red dot
if its a high end production about US military they typically will use the correct sights. Even tv shows like SEAL team get that correct.
@@KayosWONER C-More had "The Lion's Share" of features since the 1990s as they had a long-term sponsorship deal with Independent Studio Services out of California
As ISS provides arms and equipment for at least 65% of American productions, they "steer the trend" with optics
C-Mores also have the advantage of looking visually interesting and "Rule of Cool" dictates production design
Nothing to do with guns but I must compliment you on your viper collection the MKVII was always my fav
Great video Jonathan! Also a great contrast with one I just watched on swords, explaining why in movies you often don't get what really happened in history. In short movie armourers are only one of the people involved in the decision what to film, so unless it looks good - makes good TV - and especially if it looks bad, it gets dropped / changed. I suspect the same is true of guns, also the armourer is probably only given a small budget so the same guns are reused to get their moneys worth out of them.
Isn't the P226 in service with the SAS? Would be logical for Bond to use if that is the case.
It’s also used by US Navy SPECWARGRU, which created the Mk18 carbine. It’s a little up in the air without watching the movie if he got those from Felix or from MI6, since the SAS also has a similar carbine from Colt Canada.
Bond’s PPK has historically been in 7.65/.32 “like a brick through a plate glass window”
Oh Maj Boothroyd... you and your hyperbole.
I like the PPK, it's obviously just used in bond films for fan service because of it being iconic, but I think personally if I was Bond I'd use a Makarov or something
My guess is that Bond's AR platform has a AN/PEQ on it, specific model would be up for debate. Especially if he was kitted out by the US for some reason.
After further review, @Raeed Chowdhury is right, they are canted Iron sights. As much as a AN/PEQ would make more sense, the props department went the tacticool route.
We all know why he's using a magwell grip. Omega spent a lot to design the new Seamaster and they want it visible
Actually I don’t think that’s the main reason. Well yes obviously the omega needs to be visible. But if you go back to Spectre and Skyfall whenever bond is holding an assault rifle, he’s always holding the weapon the same way with the mag well grip. Go back and watch the Skyfall ending house shootout when Bond is using the HK416. He’s using the same grip style. And go back and watch spectre when Bond and Madeleine are escaping Blofield’s base. Forgot what weapon bond was using there but he’s firing it using the same grip. Go back and watch those scenes.
Is it possible to veiw the full firearms collection? Really enjoy the top floor of the museum and would like to see more, I mean I really enjoy the whole museum I've visted many times.
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If you look in the reflection in the window on the left, it really looks like a shotgun with a pistol grip to me. It has that signature angled back going to a point and everything. Also sounds like a reasonable gun to do some breaching with.
I mean... the man loudly announces himself by name and has mini-guns in his car, so I doubt he'll give up an obsolete handgun any time soon: he's not that subtle a spy.
I always thought it was a case of viewer/watcher name change/censor.
There was a scene(like half the movie) in another spy movie (im going to use bond here to speed up explanation).
where Bond is stopped by a guard and told to tell who he is and show ID.
bond under cover answers whit: Bond James Bond the ID witch we don't really get a clear look* of shows a pic of bond face but the name is Greg Boris (or something else)
and some other information.
some time later bonds cover is blown.
A officer who know who Greg Boris is and looks like, runs into the room shouting that is not Bond that. James Bond a British spy or something like that.
another seceen have 3 people shout bonds name and all tree acts as they never heard the name the other are shouting only the one they said.
* clear look as we only get a few frame on the ID as its shown to the guard but if you pause the movie you can make out most of the detail including the name and face.
The AR15 bond is Rocking is a L119A1 which is a Diamaco C8 SFW. The wierd things sticking out on the right of the rifle are canted back up iron sights. Placed where they are they work well with current training where the alert ready position consists of just canting the rifle to the left. The MOD bought an awful lot of P226 pistols at one stage.
It might be an idea to put no spoilers in the title, I almost wasn’t going to watch because I thought the movie was out already and I haven’t seen it.
I have a growing urge to see Ian McCollum from Forgotten Weapons and Jonathan talk about weapons or even have Ian have Jonathan out in the states to shoot some obscure firearms.
Not sure if you know this (appropriate apologies if you do), but they already have done a couple of videos together, mostly about british bullpups, and bullpups in general.
@@masterofdesaster8 no way really? that's awesome.
@@trayzen7302 I just checked, usually Ian notes in the title when he features guest speakers like Mr Ferguson, and I think he also has a playlist of those videos on his channel.
I’ve watched several of your videos and I’m coming at this from a none gun owning stand point, when you said the PPK, is obsolescent. I’m interested in this idea, as some one who studied product design, and looking at a gun from strictly a design standpoint. Assuming it’s accurate, is compact, carries sufficient ammunition, is reliable, isn’t too heavy doesn’t have a silly recoil you can still get parts and is deadly, it would still perform its function as well as any new model pistol. With this said how would it be obsolete or any pistol for that matter?
It’s something I’m interested by often products have built in obsolescence especially in consumer products but pistols and guns in general fall into a weird grey area. Companies want to make money, gun manufacturers are no different, I suppose they hope for military contracts for the bulk of their income but consumers are going to factor in. How do you build obsolescence into something that could potentially be dangerous to the user if there is inherent weakness that you know about? Or how do you put a life limit on a gun assuming it will still fire and you can still get ammo surely it’s still viable?
Think of it from the perspective of literally trusting your life on it, since Bond would be. It's obsolescent in the sense that you can get modern handguns that are better in pretty much every way that you mentioned. Stack up the Walther PPK against a S&W M&P Shield Plus for example.
Walther PPK .380
• Action - Double-Action ( With a notably harsh trigger pull. )
• Weight - 22.4 oz
• Length - 6.1 in
• Width - 1 in
• Height - 3.9 in
• Capacity - 6 + 1
• Sights - Fixed Rear Notch and Front Blade
S&W M&P Shield Plus 9mm
• Action - Double-Action, Striker-Fired
• Weight - 20.2 oz
• Length - 6.1 in
• Width - 0.94 in
• Height - 4.6 in
• Capacity - 13+1
• Sights - Tritium Night Sights
Which one of these would you trust with your life? The Shield has almost the exact same form factor, less weight, better modern sights, a better trigger, and just over double the capacity. It's also worth noting the near 100 year difference in understanding the way firearms are handled and progress in the materials used in their construction. And this is before getting into the modern aftermarket of pistol red dot sights, suppressors, laser sights, and other things that the PPK lacks.
It depends on how you define 'obsolescent' really. The main arguments against the PPK as a viable carry gun in 2021 are size, weight, capacity, power and trigger mechanism.
Because of advances in pistol design, you can now get a pistol that is the same size and weight as the PPK, but can hold twice as many rounds and is chambered in a more effective caliber (9mm vs .380 ACP).
Alternatively, you can get a pistol that is chambered for the same round and has the same capacity as the PPK, but is much smaller and lighter.
Lastly, the PPK has a double-actuon trigger pull for the first shot, and single-action for subsequent shots. This is considered somewhat old fashioned compared to modern striker-fired pistols which have the same trigger pull for every shot.
The flip side of this argument is that the PPK is much easier to shoot well than smaller and lighter .380 pistols, or pistols of the same size chambered in 9mm.
The more modern guns are easier to carry, but somewhat unpleasant to shoot. The PPK is relatively bulky and heavy, but much easier to control. It's a tradeoff.
Better to hit your target with a PPK than miss it with a modern subcompact 9mm.
I carry a subcompact 9mm, but I would be perfectly happy carrying a PPK if it was what I happened to have available.
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@@Crimsondragon16 Terrific reply. Personally, the Daniel Craig movies going back to "Old Fashioned" tropes of PPKs and Aston Martin DB5 kinda bug me. The Bonds before him all used the latest and greatest gear, so why the retro move? Then you factor in that Craig's Bond used new mobile phone tech (GPS, camera), the DB11 during field work, it begs the question why this approach is not consistent! Can only assume his Bond is something of a hipster.
@@Crimsondragon16 I own an smith and Wesson ppk/s and yea I would definitely not carry this gun if I had a choice it’s definitely a ornament/ range toy. The only time I will ever carry this gun is when I get married. The double action single actions guns I stay away from as a carry gun. Not only is the single action trigger horrendous, but capacity is definitely not compatible to something like a p365 which fires a more powerful round, has higher capacity, brilliant trigger, night sights, rails for accessories, and extremely reliable.
19:03 I feel like that might actually be an hk 21, just because of the handguard and tracers like that in movies are normally associated with machine guns