The market for this sort of tech is so minuscule… but I’m glad someone out there is passionate enough about it to make a video on it knowing the pool of people that would even be able to wrap their heads around it is relatively small. If your channel didn’t do exactly this… I might have died never knowing such a device exists. I guess the saying goes… “someone’s gotta do it”. Glad it’s you.
Thanks man, it is indeed an incredibly niche product. I wondered while editing how small the audience for this really is. Axun does a nice job offering all of this wild stuff so definitely worth calling out to the few.
@@ScarletSprites He also has a ‘JAMMA adjustment conversion board’, which is even more niche still, but I’m really hoping it’ll allow me to use my AW motherboard on my SNK U4. Currently when it’s connected the screen is extremely bright and washed out (at 15kHz on the dip switches and via a ‘big red’ adapter). Axun is out there solving problems only 30 people in the world have, and I’m extremely grateful for it!!
I actually have that adjustment board in the box as well as his PSU. I figured there was only so much tech rundown people could handle. I was correct, 11min of this (even mainstreamed) was a lot to ask of people. I’ll see about working those two things into another video but perhaps with a different angle. The straight up on a plate without context probably won’t fly. I’m not sure I’d watch a video on a PSU or brightness control tbh.
@@ScarletSprites ha, yeah, that would be dead niche!! I’m actually getting his PSU too for use with the Behar Bros Shogun supergun. Axun’s work, certainly to my eye, has a more ‘premium’ vibe to it than most arcade peripheral/supergun accessories. Lot of great stuff coming out right now.
Thanks for this video. I've been looking for a solution to video capture my Neo Geo 4 slot so this plus the JNX Big Red adapter into my RetroTink 5X should do the trick!
I've been doing something like this in my Vewlix for about a year now. I feed the JAMMA edge into Irken Labs' Jammafier, which outputs the video over HD15 to a Jassifier which converts the video to OSSC-safe levels to feed an (you guessed it) OSSC via SCART. Since the OSSC outputs HDMI, it can go right into a capture card with passthrough.
Nice. Yes, everyone seems to have their own unique way of making this happen. I've never been much into streaming so I haven't dabbled too much. Just got lucky and suddenly had all the parts. How do the Midway boards handle in your setup? Still a pain?
@@ScarletSprites Oh, no. It's not necessarily for streaming. I need all of that just to make video on JAMMA boards even happen in my Vewlix. It's just that adding a capture card makes streaming possible. I don't have any Midway boards to test for myself, though I know a guy who uses the same setup and got MKII working. It's a matter of tweaking the OSSC settings.
Yeah it’s possible the limiting factor currently is the RT5X. It sounds like there might be an update that addresses non-standard signals coming in the future.
8:08 Wait. I'm confused. How do you capture from a multi-slot board exactly? Do you just plug the Big Red Adapter in between the MVS board and its harness? Or does it require an extra harness or adapter?
The Big Red adapter needs to be on there to Jamma-ize the harness (same as if you were plugging in a Jamma game to the Neo Geo harness). The Jamma Extractor is then added to pull video and audio, same as if it were connected to a standard Jamma harness.
I’m wondering if this will work with my $20 Hyperkin nes clone with the hot 90s neon colors. It won’t work with the original plain colored one. But do the 90s neon colors change the fitment? Also, do you do digital pinball videos?
If there’s one thing that I love, it’s digital pinball. I do plan to start a podcast addressing some of the important issues you raise. First episode will be on which type of serial number is best, odd or even. Listen to the Retro Word wherever podcasts are sold.
You had to tell people about it before I got my order in!! 😏 Great video as always. With the picture duplicated onto the MVS, the screen was obviously really dark. Can that be adjusted via the JAMMA extractor, or would that require adjustment on the MVS chassis itself? Keep ‘em coming, I love this stuff!
The screen was a bit darker on the MVS, even after warming up a bit. I did have the adjuster up all the way so if you wanted to go further you’d have to adjust the brightness and contrast on the remote board. They were only about halfway in this case. It becomes a balancing act if you want to split AND capture because the adjuster will handle brightness for the scart output as well.
I know you hate the pandoras box, but since i have it and i wanna stream and no one knows this so i figured who else to ask then you the expert :D So jamma connection is on one end and there is VGA output, i used VGA to HDMI cable, no signal, i used VGA to composite aaaand no signal again, people told me that i need VGA to composite with usb voltage, what do you think ?
I’m not sure I’ll be much help here unfortunately. I don’t know much about the Pandoras Boxes or their VGA output. Sorry man, I can’t even wager a guess at this one.
@@ScarletSprites Damn, well thnx anyways and keep up thr good work !! Im waiting for a neo geo mvs slot video, you could talk about all of them and what are the benefits and cons.
For anything Jamma I’d look into just going the Supergun route. Buy the power supply and the Supergun and you are good for multiple boards. If you can get a HAS that’s the way you want to go. The Naomi and Atomiswave you may have to be on the lookout for, not sure of a consistent source of those.
Thank for covering this. Question for you. Can this be used with a supergun or this strictly to be used on a cab? I'm interested because of all of the settings and options this thing has.
@@technozombie789 You would also need a way to power the arcade board. The JAMMA extractor doesn’t seem to include power in as it’s intended as an in-line device.
So the product was defective and no one caught it and that's what prompted the revision? So much of the scene is people with no EE background or even basic electronics knowledge slapping together products, however professionally finished they might appear.
Wow, this is nicer+less expensive than I was expecting, and might be the thing I need to capture footage from my 2049. Next up for me is to see if those cheapo vga to hdmi converters are 'good enough' since I'm not caring about lag for once, and finally to pray my avermedia 'live gamer' can even sync to it. Some days, I wish I could just be happy with emulation like I used to be. That'd solve everything. 😂
For streamers, all of the hardware required for setup is such a nightmare to me. You guys really are dedicated and do a lot to pull off the streaming of real hardware. It’s commendable.
The market for this sort of tech is so minuscule… but I’m glad someone out there is passionate enough about it to make a video on it knowing the pool of people that would even be able to wrap their heads around it is relatively small. If your channel didn’t do exactly this… I might have died never knowing such a device exists.
I guess the saying goes… “someone’s gotta do it”.
Glad it’s you.
Thanks man, it is indeed an incredibly niche product. I wondered while editing how small the audience for this really is. Axun does a nice job offering all of this wild stuff so definitely worth calling out to the few.
@@ScarletSprites He also has a ‘JAMMA adjustment conversion board’, which is even more niche still, but I’m really hoping it’ll allow me to use my AW motherboard on my SNK U4. Currently when it’s connected the screen is extremely bright and washed out (at 15kHz on the dip switches and via a ‘big red’ adapter).
Axun is out there solving problems only 30 people in the world have, and I’m extremely grateful for it!!
I actually have that adjustment board in the box as well as his PSU. I figured there was only so much tech rundown people could handle. I was correct, 11min of this (even mainstreamed) was a lot to ask of people. I’ll see about working those two things into another video but perhaps with a different angle. The straight up on a plate without context probably won’t fly. I’m not sure I’d watch a video on a PSU or brightness control tbh.
@@ScarletSprites ha, yeah, that would be dead niche!! I’m actually getting his PSU too for use with the Behar Bros Shogun supergun. Axun’s work, certainly to my eye, has a more ‘premium’ vibe to it than most arcade peripheral/supergun accessories.
Lot of great stuff coming out right now.
That first shine on 3:23 over the capture card was too damn perfect.
God I love it when people actually catch and appreciate the subtleties.
I just like looking at arcades as they are on, the tecky stuff I will leave to you, ty for sharing!
Hah, that’s an easy enough video to do some day.
I always learn something new from your videos. Never heard of this device before and very cool that is serves a specific purpose.
I’m glad that you found something enjoyable in it man. It’s really hard sometimes making these videos for such a tiny tiny audience.
This is perfect for street fighter tournaments thanks again you are a GENIUS
It’s not me, all the credit goes to Axun for this.
Damn, im searching left and right for the streaming of the arcade machine, how did i miss this video !
I’m gonna have to get one of these and stream when people come over
Thanks for this video. I've been looking for a solution to video capture my Neo Geo 4 slot so this plus the JNX Big Red adapter into my RetroTink 5X should do the trick!
There’s a few things you’ll need there but it does the trick. Best of luck with the setup and streams!
I've been doing something like this in my Vewlix for about a year now. I feed the JAMMA edge into Irken Labs' Jammafier, which outputs the video over HD15 to a Jassifier which converts the video to OSSC-safe levels to feed an (you guessed it) OSSC via SCART. Since the OSSC outputs HDMI, it can go right into a capture card with passthrough.
Nice. Yes, everyone seems to have their own unique way of making this happen. I've never been much into streaming so I haven't dabbled too much. Just got lucky and suddenly had all the parts. How do the Midway boards handle in your setup? Still a pain?
@@ScarletSprites Oh, no. It's not necessarily for streaming. I need all of that just to make video on JAMMA boards even happen in my Vewlix. It's just that adding a capture card makes streaming possible.
I don't have any Midway boards to test for myself, though I know a guy who uses the same setup and got MKII working. It's a matter of tweaking the OSSC settings.
Yeah it’s possible the limiting factor currently is the RT5X. It sounds like there might be an update that addresses non-standard signals coming in the future.
8:08 Wait. I'm confused. How do you capture from a multi-slot board exactly? Do you just plug the Big Red Adapter in between the MVS board and its harness? Or does it require an extra harness or adapter?
Or does it only work with the 2P extractor
The Big Red adapter needs to be on there to Jamma-ize the harness (same as if you were plugging in a Jamma game to the Neo Geo harness). The Jamma Extractor is then added to pull video and audio, same as if it were connected to a standard Jamma harness.
You're exactly right. I tried it out and it works perfectly! Thanks
I’m wondering if this will work with my $20 Hyperkin nes clone with the hot 90s neon colors. It won’t work with the original plain colored one. But do the 90s neon colors change the fitment? Also, do you do digital pinball videos?
If there’s one thing that I love, it’s digital pinball. I do plan to start a podcast addressing some of the important issues you raise. First episode will be on which type of serial number is best, odd or even. Listen to the Retro Word wherever podcasts are sold.
Did he not give you the daughterboard that plugs into player 1 DB15 for the kick harness?
Some nice artistic-looking shots in this video!
Looking forward to your next live stream. Hope you give us a heads up when you will.
I really should actually schedule those. I usually decide to do them an hour before going live, lol.
You had to tell people about it before I got my order in!! 😏
Great video as always.
With the picture duplicated onto the MVS, the screen was obviously really dark. Can that be adjusted via the JAMMA extractor, or would that require adjustment on the MVS chassis itself?
Keep ‘em coming, I love this stuff!
The screen was a bit darker on the MVS, even after warming up a bit. I did have the adjuster up all the way so if you wanted to go further you’d have to adjust the brightness and contrast on the remote board. They were only about halfway in this case. It becomes a balancing act if you want to split AND capture because the adjuster will handle brightness for the scart output as well.
I know you hate the pandoras box, but since i have it and i wanna stream and no one knows this so i figured who else to ask then you the expert :D
So jamma connection is on one end and there is VGA output, i used VGA to HDMI cable, no signal, i used VGA to composite aaaand no signal again, people told me that i need VGA to composite with usb voltage, what do you think ?
I’m not sure I’ll be much help here unfortunately. I don’t know much about the Pandoras Boxes or their VGA output. Sorry man, I can’t even wager a guess at this one.
@@ScarletSprites Damn, well thnx anyways and keep up thr good work !! Im waiting for a neo geo mvs slot video, you could talk about all of them and what are the benefits and cons.
I'm trying to find some consolized naomi motherboard, igs pgm consolized, atomiswave consolized, sega stv consolized. Can you help??
For anything Jamma I’d look into just going the Supergun route. Buy the power supply and the Supergun and you are good for multiple boards. If you can get a HAS that’s the way you want to go. The Naomi and Atomiswave you may have to be on the lookout for, not sure of a consistent source of those.
Link to shirt?
Hah, I’ll have to ask. My wife’s friend gave it to me. I can assume redbubble or one of those type places.
I know you mentioned live streaming is not your thing, but it would be great to see you get back into doing them especially with a setup like this.
I could see this being a difference maker for that. Definitely makes setup easier and I could show some cool games (that aren’t Midway, lol).
So is it a supergun?
There are elements of it that behave that way, as a pass through.
Will this work for any arcade game? Liiiike a gumball machine that plays a Melody that I can't to extract
Where can i find the 2.5 version? In axunworks store only see the 1.0 version (sorry for my terrible english, bless from chile!)
All units being shipped are now the latest version.
Thanks master!!! 🎉🎉
Hi,
What's the name of capture log (on Windows ?) ?
Thanks.
Saw a little demon front action.
You sure did! It’s a shame it never got a sequel.
Thank for covering this. Question for you. Can this be used with a supergun or this strictly to be used on a cab? I'm interested because of all of the settings and options this thing has.
Yes 10:25
@@_kikaso Thank you.
If you want to output to an OSSC and have NeoGeo controllers can this replace a supergun?
Yes! You’d just need to supply power to the board.
@@technozombie789 You would also need a way to power the arcade board. The JAMMA extractor doesn’t seem to include power in as it’s intended as an in-line device.
So the product was defective and no one caught it and that's what prompted the revision? So much of the scene is people with no EE background or even basic electronics knowledge slapping together products, however professionally finished they might appear.
It is a little surprising how something like that was never caught. It really only needed tested on a handful of boards for the issue to appear.
Cool
It’s a sweet little board. The RT5X having scart input really helps make this convenient.
GREAT VIDEO! Thank you from #Axunworks :)
Thanks for supplying the fun toys to play with!
Wow, this is nicer+less expensive than I was expecting, and might be the thing I need to capture footage from my 2049. Next up for me is to see if those cheapo vga to hdmi converters are 'good enough' since I'm not caring about lag for once, and finally to pray my avermedia 'live gamer' can even sync to it. Some days, I wish I could just be happy with emulation like I used to be. That'd solve everything. 😂
For streamers, all of the hardware required for setup is such a nightmare to me. You guys really are dedicated and do a lot to pull off the streaming of real hardware. It’s commendable.