Beautiful photography, Simons fluid motion is so smooth he makes it look so easy and graceful. If this was ballet, Simon would be Mikhail Baryshnikov and I am the bull in the china store :)
Now this is incredible. I don't think any other channel has given this many examples of professional disc golf form from so many different angles. Really really great for the community and the growth of the sport.
This is awesome. It would also be nice to see putts from different distances similar to the field shots. Would be cool to understand differences between their 25 footer Vs 50 footer for example where I think Simon still isn't jump putting but generating a lot more power and spin on his putt than the 25.
I've watched every Simon form video that exists. Im so glad to see a super detail and high quality one to just use for a reference now. Thanks to Simon I'm at the point where I can throw about 450, but man it does not look so clean. This is definitely going to help me study to squeeze out that extra distance!
From watching this video I really need to keep my eye on the target 90% of the time through my throw and pay more attention to my walk up angle and make sure it’s correct for the throw I want to make. Great stuff!!!! The slow mo helped me get a better mental picture of correct form.
Well keep in mind this is mainly for throws where he is not full extending back. If you keep your head looking forward during a full extension it will prevent your shoulders from being able to fully rotate with your hips.
Main thing I noticed which I never did before is how he doesnt change the pattern of his steps from distance to distance, he just takes faster and longer strides when throwing further and shorter, slower strides when throwing shorter. But the actual pattern of the runup is consistent throughout, at least until he throws max distance at which point he adds 2 extra momentum building steps, but then the rest is the same
It kinda looks like he changes the angle of his run up. HyZer he runs straight at the disc. Flat he comes in at a little angle to the disc and anhyzer he comes in more of a angle to the disc.
There is no other Simon lizotte style throw in DISCGOLF!!! You can tell this man has burned how to throw a disc into his brain and muscle memory! Thank you very much for this I've always wanted to see what he does in slow motion because I think he has one of the best Styles disc golf!
This post and the one from drew are helping me clean up my form immensely. It really is much appreciated that you guys are pushing out this kind of content in a more consumable way. These have helped me stop reaching back early and now I allow my left arm drive/rotate before the right arm hits peak reachback to continue the pedulum of momentum.
You guys are the BOMB!!! I was waiting for a video like that for a very long time. Wealths of info just by observing! Thanks so much for sharing and glad Simon was on board with this.
Jeeeeeez Louise so if you slow it down to 1/2 speed @2:08 - 2:10 he holds his disc on an anhyzer angle for so long during his pull through, then when it’s already almost in front of his body, his wrist snaps it down into a hyzer angle basically when he’s already extending his arm. That’s mind blowing to me, that’s gotta take some serious time/effort/natural ability to master something like that
Wow, Simon throws so effortlessly. It is quite amazing, thanks Simon. Now to you guys at OT Disc Golf, such vivid clear images and coving all the angles, you guys do great work, so hats off to you. Always looking forward to your next post.
Simon looks ao effortless that I am trying to copy his form at the moment, I am glad to find this video! It's cool how the length of his reachback depends on the speed of his run-up, faster run-up = longer steps = longer reachback.
Wow, thanks for all the angles and the throw variety! I'll have to open this video side by side with itself to study the release angles relative to each other. Can't wait!
The motion is so smooth and integrated that it is for me the Platonic ideal form. No wasted, excess motion. Look at how the shoulders/hips move. Never tilting in weird ways that don't help the throw, etc. Also there is a lot of wrist pop/snap/fore-arm acceleration, like cracking a whip, right at the end of the throw motion. When I look at videos of myself I see all kinds of ways that I am making body movements that really make no sense. Also note that at shorter distances he intentionally throws nose up for a softer shot that comes in gently to the target.
I love how Simon uses his left hand to make sure the disc stays aligned with the center of his body till the left leg crosses behind the right leg on the cross over step. If you are taking suggestions for who you would do next I would love to see Paige Pearce. Great job guys.
If I had to choose between watching Simon or Drew on OTDG it'd be a tough call. Solution - loop em both on separate devices as constant background and just soak in their near perfect forms, sling after sling....it really is all about the feel..well, coupled with precise instruction by Josh of course 😜
He’s approaching each line straight. Since he is throwing to the same target he has to adjust the angle of his walk up to take flight path into consideration.
@@OverthrowDiscGolf I noticed this as well 'cause it's something that I'm struggling with (and thanks for putting the discs on the ground to really get this perspective). I seemed to be pulling my throws to the right, so I adjusted my run-up to be more of an angle. What I'd prefer to do though is fix the pulling 'cause it just seems as though adjusting the run-up angle was putting a band-aid on bad form. That said, I believe Drew's run-up was more at an angle than Simon's, although I'd probably have to go back and review to confirm.
His putt just opened my eyes in a whole new way, he doesnt pre curl his wrist and then try to snap it out, his wrist is relatively straight, but relaxed and then as he putts it curls and snaps all on it's own because of the momentum, exactly like a backhand or forehand. It's about being loose and letting the movement of the other body parts create the whip
@@OverthrowDiscGolf so does mine, I took, and this isnt an exaggeration, 21 extra strokes in the last sanctioned tourny I played because of missed circle 1 putts, nerves plus already poor putting is not a good combo lmao
This is something I actually just realized 2 days ago in my backyard. I was practicing and just not being consistent and I thought about *why* I moved my arm and hand down and then up and something instantly clicked in my brain "its a whip just like your back hand". Man, I haven't really figured it out yet, but there is a lot more spin on my putts now. Hope you stop missing those C1 putts bud!
One thing I find interesting and also would like more analysis on is the angles from the top down view. Angle of run up, angle of "pull through", angle of flight line verses those two, etc. Is there a best practice we can get from this or some rough form rules we can develop from this? Like when he is throwing a power flat line, draw a line on the top of his head from start to finish for the run up. Then do the same for the "pull through" angle and the same for the flight angle from leaving his hand to as it leave the frame. Its interesting to see the lines all of these make and the angle differences between them. The top down view on these throws are rare and underrated in the form world imo. It really makes you realize how complex the disc golf drive is.
Awesome! I really hope to see a right arm study on his footage like we saw with Gibson. They look equally effortless and so exact and consistent, but there are some interesting differences that I'd love to hear about.
@@mad85123 yeah it almost looks a little more.. casual? Or wide? Drew has this really tight compression before the pull through and Simon's is different. There is a little more space.
Like Harrison said, Drew is very precise and extremely explosive, Simon is more loose and momentum driven. It also helps that Simon is freakishly tall at 6ft 7
1: Really good content, thanks a bunch again. 2: One thing I would find interesting is to have different players spread their hand out and see if the difference in length of fingers on their hand has an influence on how they grip - an where their pivot-point is. If there is a pattern to fe found. It took me forever to find out that my index finger messes up my pitov & release.
His backswing on the 350' flat shot is eye-opening. 350' is my golf distance, requiring a full backswing. I probably need to focus on shortening my backswing while I work on my off-arm and weight transfer.
@@OverthrowDiscGolf I saw this, too. Thought "huh, his run up isn't as angled as I expected. oh, he shanked that anny...wait, no he didn't, that was a flat shot. Never mind. He's perfect." Haha.
For more seasoned players that doesn't have problem with distance but accuracy, note how his head turns in which throws! I've tried to learn this exact the past year and right now hyzers have been dialed and score lowered by alot
Good stuff 👍. Ever plan to do something similar with a forehand dominant player? Seems like technique discussion around forehands is fairly limited compared to backhand and would be an interesting deep dive
Would love to see the difference between him or any pro hyzer flipping versus throwing a spike hyzer. Feels like the release point would look different.
@Overthrow Disc Golf how much have you slowed original video (times x?) ? I would love to compare to my form, but it is hard to get the videos to the same speed. Would really appreciate :)
@@OverthrowDiscGolf Do you mean from 120 to 30 fps? If I right click on the video and select "Stats for nerds" it indicates that this is a 30 fps video. Thanks!
The left arm is what is getting me. It is obviously an active mover in the torso rotation/transfer of weight from left-right leg, but I just cannot seem to find the ROM of that left arm. I can push it through all day long, it always *feels* awkward while acknowledging that there will be some non-awkward ROM that the left arm can go through. Idk, tips on the left arm would be helpful Here's an idea; let's find sports where the left arm is involved in some way like it is with disc golf.
Ok, so maybe this is a question for Simon, but what is that little thing his right hand does right at the start of the pull-through? Maybe we all do that...? eg: 2:40 exactly
My opinion is that happens because his left shoulder drives forward and yoinks his arm forward while the wrist is loose. Like how your head goes back when press the gas pedal in your car.
Another great video, thanks! Is there any chance of another upload with full frame views of the individual throws? I'd love to be able to full screen zoom in on the side views
That's great content. Productionwise i would probably not float the 'Putt' and 'Jump putt' texts on top of your logo in the future. White text on a white logo makes it unreadable, but i'm guessing that was missed during editing. Still production quality was top notch, much appreciated!
Question. For shorter throws he doesnt reach out as far. Would it also work to reach out as normal, but just do a slower movement? Like slow the rotation down? This way, having the same movement everytime just varying the speed of it. Or do you lose the snap this way?
Simon seems to always throw at an angle to the right. Hyzer, straight runup, disc goes right. Straight, angled runup, disc goes straight. Anhyzer, really angled runup, disc goes left (but still right of the direction of runup)
Do you plan to have more of these videos with different pros? I would like to see the form of some of the comparatively smaller pros on tour that throw big distance. Emerson Keith, Mason Ford, etc.
His shoulder turn is so subtly. Kind of like a baseball swing shoulder turn. In baseball you don't turn 90* with your back to the incoming ball. I've been trying to do a 90* with every shot regardless of distance and I'm not as smooth as the 45* shoulder turn. Hmm. He's showing us something here. Nice and compact. Kind of like Sepo Paju.
Are there side-arm form videos coming up as well ? And maybe over-the-trees-grenade-roller-to-the-pin ? (this one was no serious, just something a saw in a tournament yesterday and was like what)
@@OverthrowDiscGolf yes. In relation to torso. I’ve thought I need to have elbow so high it’s a 90-degree angle with my torso when throwing flat. AKA elbow pointing horizontally away from me. But seeing this video makes me think I’m wrong. And yes - I have elbow pain..
Nice smooth form along with Gibson's. Question: Can I use these form clips to review my form and upload my form review for to RUclips? I don't want any troubles so just asking in case if there's a possibility for it. Just crediting you in the description or adding your logo to form clip to act as a watermark wouldn't work would it? I'm curious :))
I know you mention to keep the feet sideways during the x step but it looks like Simon has his foot backwards. Maybe my perspective is off or it’s probably something he got used too.
He touched on that in his deep roots disc golf video with one of the guys, in that example he uses eagle but the principle is the same. With higher than normal hip mobility the x step foot being heel forward isn't a problem and adds more hip engagement but for the average disc golfer its more beneficial to keep them in line
Hey OverThrow. Do you, by chance, have this footage in normal speed so I can see Simon's real time tempo moving through his form? I'll pay you for it because I need to use it for training/practice. You can watermark it with Josh's face if you're worried about reposting/content thievery.
We done messed up... At 3:54 it is obviously a flat shot. Not the anhyzer we have it labeled as. Our fault! We trust you will enjoy it nevertheless.
Just getting ready to comment that.
Unacceptable man, unacceptable lol
Nope, disliking for this reason only. I expect more. :)
@@anahlyze6406 understandable
how DARE you
The leafs falling in slow motion adds a very soothing, mellow tone to the clips 🍂🍁
Friggin mind boggling how he never has to fully extend his right arm until he's throwing max distance. Most effortless distance out there imo.
You really never have to reachback for max distance
Seppo Paju and Severi Savinemi have also almost non-existent reachout.
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@@vetskunhotelli4193 Menipäs pieleen, kiitti korjauksesta!
I've always thought the same thing about Simon. When he throws 400' it looks like the same amount of effort as when I throw 150'.
I feel I'm going to learn quite a bit from this channel! What I'd love to see is Calvin Heimburg putting form in slow mo.
I heard they are doing a Nikko one. But they are still waiting for him to finish putting.
@@hascupbrayden3091 ok man best comment u won
Beautiful photography, Simons fluid motion is so smooth he makes it look so easy and graceful. If this was ballet, Simon would be Mikhail Baryshnikov and I am the bull in the china store :)
Now this is incredible. I don't think any other channel has given this many examples of professional disc golf form from so many different angles. Really really great for the community and the growth of the sport.
Absolutely effortless form. It is crazy how he makes my bombs (350 feet) look like casually tossing a frisbee in the park. Great content, thanks guys!
The putting form is an awesome addition! Keep up the awesome work. Need to get Drew back in so we can all learn how to hit 70' bangers!
We've got Drew's putts in the compilation
Shoot you’re right! I even rewatched it am still missed it. The [chapters] are a great addition! 😅😅
This is awesome. It would also be nice to see putts from different distances similar to the field shots. Would be cool to understand differences between their 25 footer Vs 50 footer for example where I think Simon still isn't jump putting but generating a lot more power and spin on his putt than the 25.
@@lwswong1 watch simon’s 10’ putter challenge on his channel to watch his form develop from 10’- 120’ and beyond.
Man, that 350 ft. flat throw is my dream form. Going to try for the next year to mimic that exactly.
Playing this next time on repeat in the background at a dinner party 🎶
I've watched every Simon form video that exists. Im so glad to see a super detail and high quality one to just use for a reference now. Thanks to Simon I'm at the point where I can throw about 450, but man it does not look so clean. This is definitely going to help me study to squeeze out that extra distance!
From watching this video I really need to keep my eye on the target 90% of the time through my throw and pay more attention to my walk up angle and make sure it’s correct for the throw I want to make.
Great stuff!!!! The slow mo helped me get a better mental picture of correct form.
Yes! Mission accomplished
good takeaway
Well keep in mind this is mainly for throws where he is not full extending back. If you keep your head looking forward during a full extension it will prevent your shoulders from being able to fully rotate with your hips.
Main thing I noticed which I never did before is how he doesnt change the pattern of his steps from distance to distance, he just takes faster and longer strides when throwing further and shorter, slower strides when throwing shorter. But the actual pattern of the runup is consistent throughout, at least until he throws max distance at which point he adds 2 extra momentum building steps, but then the rest is the same
Also the planting of the last step is different in power shots
It kinda looks like he changes the angle of his run up. HyZer he runs straight at the disc. Flat he comes in at a little angle to the disc and anhyzer he comes in more of a angle to the disc.
There is no other Simon lizotte style throw in DISCGOLF!!! You can tell this man has burned how to throw a disc into his brain and muscle memory! Thank you very much for this I've always wanted to see what he does in slow motion because I think he has one of the best Styles disc golf!
This post and the one from drew are helping me clean up my form immensely. It really is much appreciated that you guys are pushing out this kind of content in a more consumable way.
These have helped me stop reaching back early and now I allow my left arm drive/rotate before the right arm hits peak reachback to continue the pedulum of momentum.
Our pleasure
You guys are the BOMB!!! I was waiting for a video like that for a very long time. Wealths of info just by observing! Thanks so much for sharing and glad Simon was on board with this.
Jeeeeeez Louise so if you slow it down to 1/2 speed @2:08 - 2:10 he holds his disc on an anhyzer angle for so long during his pull through, then when it’s already almost in front of his body, his wrist snaps it down into a hyzer angle basically when he’s already extending his arm. That’s mind blowing to me, that’s gotta take some serious time/effort/natural ability to master something like that
Wow, Simon throws so effortlessly. It is quite amazing, thanks Simon. Now to you guys at OT Disc Golf, such vivid clear images and coving all the angles, you guys do great work, so hats off to you. Always looking forward to your next post.
Thank you!
Josh, this video is great!! I love the different views - it gives a nice overall picture of what Simon is doing. So smooth!!!
Looking forward to your form breakdown video that I soon hope follows this. Simon makes all of this look so smooth and effortless.
Top notch content. Form as smooth as the tunes.
Simon looks ao effortless that I am trying to copy his form at the moment, I am glad to find this video! It's cool how the length of his reachback depends on the speed of his run-up, faster run-up = longer steps = longer reachback.
I don't have the right words for how good this video is. Thanks.
Wow, thanks for all the angles and the throw variety! I'll have to open this video side by side with itself to study the release angles relative to each other. Can't wait!
this video is awesome. I was looking for this exact type of video, and somehow you guys already made it! great work!
The motion is so smooth and integrated that it is for me the Platonic ideal form. No wasted, excess motion. Look at how the shoulders/hips move. Never tilting in weird ways that don't help the throw, etc. Also there is a lot of wrist pop/snap/fore-arm acceleration, like cracking a whip, right at the end of the throw motion. When I look at videos of myself I see all kinds of ways that I am making body movements that really make no sense. Also note that at shorter distances he intentionally throws nose up for a softer shot that comes in gently to the target.
Awesome content, for both the filming and throws! Thanks for sharing.
This is almost perfect! I say almost because it would take having the full speed throws to compare that aspect of the throw to make them perfect.
I love how Simon uses his left hand to make sure the disc stays aligned with the center of his body till the left leg crosses behind the right leg on the cross over step. If you are taking suggestions for who you would do next I would love to see Paige Pearce. Great job guys.
This is EXACTLY what I was looking for. Stuck around 350-375 and making it look way harder than Simon :D
You guys are killing it !! So rewarding to watch this channel blow up!
If I had to choose between watching Simon or Drew on OTDG it'd be a tough call. Solution - loop em both on separate devices as constant background and just soak in their near perfect forms, sling after sling....it really is all about the feel..well, coupled with precise instruction by Josh of course 😜
Love this! Its all in the subtle details that you can't see in real speed 😃 Thanks
This is fantastic content. Get as many pros as you can to do this, I'd watch all of them.
The angle at which he approaches each shot is wild. I've always tried to approach a shot mostly straight, and that's obviously wrong now. Great video.
He’s approaching each line straight. Since he is throwing to the same target he has to adjust the angle of his walk up to take flight path into consideration.
@@OverthrowDiscGolf I noticed this as well 'cause it's something that I'm struggling with (and thanks for putting the discs on the ground to really get this perspective). I seemed to be pulling my throws to the right, so I adjusted my run-up to be more of an angle. What I'd prefer to do though is fix the pulling 'cause it just seems as though adjusting the run-up angle was putting a band-aid on bad form. That said, I believe Drew's run-up was more at an angle than Simon's, although I'd probably have to go back and review to confirm.
Overhead view is great - it shows a few details easily missed in the other views.
I almost got sad cause I wasn't sure you'd do the 360° then there it was thanks for the awesomeness folks. Much love from canada
I LOVE this series... Great work and keep it up!!!
I watched this video and I went from throwing about 320 to effortlessly getting over 500 feet on a standstill, thank u
Yesss
His putt just opened my eyes in a whole new way, he doesnt pre curl his wrist and then try to snap it out, his wrist is relatively straight, but relaxed and then as he putts it curls and snaps all on it's own because of the momentum, exactly like a backhand or forehand. It's about being loose and letting the movement of the other body parts create the whip
I went frame by frame noticing the same thing. My putt needs help lol
@@OverthrowDiscGolf so does mine, I took, and this isnt an exaggeration, 21 extra strokes in the last sanctioned tourny I played because of missed circle 1 putts, nerves plus already poor putting is not a good combo lmao
@@austinrmoser oh I believe it because I’ve lived it
@@OverthrowDiscGolf it's a struggle out here 😔, worst part is the rest of my game was on, but that dang putting 😂
This is something I actually just realized 2 days ago in my backyard. I was practicing and just not being consistent and I thought about *why* I moved my arm and hand down and then up and something instantly clicked in my brain "its a whip just like your back hand". Man, I haven't really figured it out yet, but there is a lot more spin on my putts now. Hope you stop missing those C1 putts bud!
Sooo dope! Thanks guys!! Simon is by far my fav!
this was such a great watch.
One thing I find interesting and also would like more analysis on is the angles from the top down view. Angle of run up, angle of "pull through", angle of flight line verses those two, etc. Is there a best practice we can get from this or some rough form rules we can develop from this? Like when he is throwing a power flat line, draw a line on the top of his head from start to finish for the run up. Then do the same for the "pull through" angle and the same for the flight angle from leaving his hand to as it leave the frame. Its interesting to see the lines all of these make and the angle differences between them. The top down view on these throws are rare and underrated in the form world imo. It really makes you realize how complex the disc golf drive is.
I plan on diving into all of these topics! Just have to have the time to sit down and record
These are brilliant. Great job.
i feel like i owe you $100 bucks for doing this.. Thanks big time man!
Haha. Keep your money. Unless you want to buy stuff from our Shopify.
Awesome! I really hope to see a right arm study on his footage like we saw with Gibson. They look equally effortless and so exact and consistent, but there are some interesting differences that I'd love to hear about.
Simon looks more effortless than Gibson.
@@mad85123 yeah it almost looks a little more.. casual? Or wide? Drew has this really tight compression before the pull through and Simon's is different. There is a little more space.
@@nicholasboucher4071 yeah, casual is the word. Drew looks like a karate master and simon looks like a dancer. Both with equally awesome results.
@@harrisc2093 well said!
Like Harrison said, Drew is very precise and extremely explosive, Simon is more loose and momentum driven. It also helps that Simon is freakishly tall at 6ft 7
1: Really good content, thanks a bunch again.
2: One thing I would find interesting is to have different players spread their hand out and see if the difference in length of fingers on their hand has an influence on how they grip - an where their pivot-point is. If there is a pattern to fe found. It took me forever to find out that my index finger messes up my pitov & release.
Absolutely love it! You guys are the best!
Thanks!
Fantastic video! Very informative but chill. 👏🏻
His backswing on the 350' flat shot is eye-opening. 350' is my golf distance, requiring a full backswing. I probably need to focus on shortening my backswing while I work on my off-arm and weight transfer.
His form is effortless. I love the multiple angles we get to see. Side note...at 450ft you have the 'Anhyzer' graphic for the flat release :).
Oh no. Lol my bad. Probably not worth fixing that one thing but that may end up being annoying lol 😆
@@OverthrowDiscGolf I saw this, too. Thought "huh, his run up isn't as angled as I expected. oh, he shanked that anny...wait, no he didn't, that was a flat shot. Never mind. He's perfect." Haha.
Awesome been waiting for this one, thanks guys!
Amazing content. So satisfying to watch.....Whippity whip. Snappity snap.
Smooth thrower on a smooth talker channel! 😀
Totally awesome footage!!!
insane how easy it looks!
great clips, man thank you
For more seasoned players that doesn't have problem with distance but accuracy, note how his head turns in which throws! I've tried to learn this exact the past year and right now hyzers have been dialed and score lowered by alot
Good stuff 👍. Ever plan to do something similar with a forehand dominant player? Seems like technique discussion around forehands is fairly limited compared to backhand and would be an interesting deep dive
For sure! We've just got to find one that is FH dominant and wants to work with us
@@OverthrowDiscGolf I feel like Big Jerm would be the obvious choice.
@@harrisc2093 That would be sick
@@OverthrowDiscGolf Scott Stokely has very good FH. Seemingly effortless over 500'... and not injured from it after many years ;-)
@@OverthrowDiscGolf yeah for sure. Hit him up on instagram, he seems pretty active there. Maybe ask Drew or Simon to put in a good word?
Great, really great series! A lot of stuff also for players like me: poor eternal beginner.👍
Thanks, even I, had noticed that 'anhyzer'😁
Would love to see the difference between him or any pro hyzer flipping versus throwing a spike hyzer. Feels like the release point would look different.
@Overthrow Disc Golf how much have you slowed original video (times x?) ? I would love to compare to my form, but it is hard to get the videos to the same speed. Would really appreciate :)
From 120 to 23.98fps
@@OverthrowDiscGolf Do you mean from 120 to 30 fps? If I right click on the video and select "Stats for nerds" it indicates that this is a 30 fps video. Thanks!
INSTANT classic!
My favourite form
Can you please make a video about him not running up from left to right on his hyzer shots?🙏🥺
The left arm is what is getting me. It is obviously an active mover in the torso rotation/transfer of weight from left-right leg, but I just cannot seem to find the ROM of that left arm. I can push it through all day long, it always *feels* awkward while acknowledging that there will be some non-awkward ROM that the left arm can go through. Idk, tips on the left arm would be helpful
Here's an idea; let's find sports where the left arm is involved in some way like it is with disc golf.
the thing that really pops out at me is the way he uses his left arm and shoulder as a post
lovin it guys
Suggestion: I think the bottom left is the most useful angle. Consider moving that one to the right side so it's larger.
you didn't by chance ask him about his thumb/first finger pinch pint and pressure?
I wish I did! I was kicking myself for neglecting that part
@@OverthrowDiscGolf fiddlesticks. Should get a t-shirt for each one of these that just says 'show me how you pinch'
Ok, so maybe this is a question for Simon, but what is that little thing his right hand does right at the start of the pull-through? Maybe we all do that...? eg: 2:40 exactly
My opinion is that happens because his left shoulder drives forward and yoinks his arm forward while the wrist is loose. Like how your head goes back when press the gas pedal in your car.
@@OverthrowDiscGolf Thanks for the explanation! Here's to future yoinking.
Another great video, thanks! Is there any chance of another upload with full frame views of the individual throws? I'd love to be able to full screen zoom in on the side views
Yep! We plan on it
Nice!
That's it. OTDG is Goated.
Masterful
Its amazing that his 450 ft throw clearly looks like he's not using full power. There's pro's who max at that distance.
That's great content. Productionwise i would probably not float the 'Putt' and 'Jump putt' texts on top of your logo in the future. White text on a white logo makes it unreadable, but i'm guessing that was missed during editing. Still production quality was top notch, much appreciated!
So freaking fluid
450 anhyzer text was in there twice. Once for the flat throw
Question. For shorter throws he doesnt reach out as far. Would it also work to reach out as normal, but just do a slower movement? Like slow the rotation down? This way, having the same movement everytime just varying the speed of it. Or do you lose the snap this way?
Simon seems to always throw at an angle to the right. Hyzer, straight runup, disc goes right. Straight, angled runup, disc goes straight. Anhyzer, really angled runup, disc goes left (but still right of the direction of runup)
Do you plan to have more of these videos with different pros? I would like to see the form of some of the comparatively smaller pros on tour that throw big distance. Emerson Keith, Mason Ford, etc.
Yep
@@OverthrowDiscGolf awesome!
His shoulder turn is so subtly. Kind of like a baseball swing shoulder turn. In baseball you don't turn 90* with your back to the incoming ball.
I've been trying to do a 90* with every shot regardless of distance and I'm not as smooth as the 45* shoulder turn. Hmm. He's showing us something here. Nice and compact. Kind of like Sepo Paju.
I’m only upset that I can’t like this video more than once!
As always great video! Just wondering what the music credits were?
The outro music is a song by Sunny Fruit he made specifically for us.
@@OverthrowDiscGolf did they make the music that was playing while Simon was throwing?
I think it's so hard to get the clean pullthrough when throwing anhyzer 😔 feels too herky jerky
Fantastic producton!!!! Would love to see a Paige equivalent.
Good stuff.
Are there side-arm form videos coming up as well ?
And maybe over-the-trees-grenade-roller-to-the-pin ? (this one was no serious, just something a saw in a tournament yesterday and was like what)
It just so happens that the two people we had don’t throw sidearm. If we get someone who throws sidearm then we will for sure get it.
@@OverthrowDiscGolf That makes a lot of sense. Very grateful!
It looks like Simon’s elbow isn’t above 90 degrees even when throwing anhyzer shots 🤔 Or is it just the camera angle?
You mean height wise?
@@OverthrowDiscGolf yes. In relation to torso. I’ve thought I need to have elbow so high it’s a 90-degree angle with my torso when throwing flat. AKA elbow pointing horizontally away from me. But seeing this video makes me think I’m wrong. And yes - I have elbow pain..
@@akselim7403 yeah. You don’t need it directly away from you as there is a range. Simon is a little lower than most.
@@OverthrowDiscGolf do you have any videos about this? Would be helpful for re-learning correct elbow placement
@@akselim7403 the lead arm video in the backhand playlist
Ahhhhh das nice. Safety meeting at 4:20. Chee!
And it seems Simon has a different tight woods tee throw also
super content.
Nice smooth form along with Gibson's.
Question: Can I use these form clips to review my form and upload my form review for to RUclips? I don't want any troubles so just asking in case if there's a possibility for it. Just crediting you in the description or adding your logo to form clip to act as a watermark wouldn't work would it?
I'm curious :))
Thanks for asking. Email us! It's against RUclips's TOS to download so you'd get whacked just for that.
@@OverthrowDiscGolf I emailed you. Looking forward to your reply :]
I know you mention to keep the feet sideways during the x step but it looks like Simon has his foot backwards.
Maybe my perspective is off or it’s probably something he got used too.
He touched on that in his deep roots disc golf video with one of the guys, in that example he uses eagle but the principle is the same.
With higher than normal hip mobility the x step foot being heel forward isn't a problem and adds more hip engagement but for the average disc golfer its more beneficial to keep them in line
Yes, I did enjoy the quantent. Thank you furry mush.
Hey OverThrow. Do you, by chance, have this footage in normal speed so I can see Simon's real time tempo moving through his form? I'll pay you for it because I need to use it for training/practice. You can watermark it with Josh's face if you're worried about reposting/content thievery.
Effortless. He doesn’t even have a full backswing throwing 350….
Bro like HOW
it's all in the hips
Is his grip more loose like how you teach or is it firm?
Wish I had asked. I did ask drew though and he said loose.
@@OverthrowDiscGolf I'm interested if other pros have a firm grip. Good to know Drew has a loose grip.
Awesome!!!