Why Is Everyone Avoiding Buying New Chevy Silverados?
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If you can’t tow anything or haul anything- fuel economy doesn’t matter. Charging people an arm and a leg for a tonka toy is deception and people aren’t that stupid.
I agree that a 4 banger in a full sized truck is undesirable. But the 2.7 can tow 9200 lbs which is more than 99% of half ton truck owners tow. It also has a higher payload vs. the other engines due to it being lighter. The only real advantage is that it saves you $1500 over the 5.3. The major issues are questionable reliability, negligible fuel economy gains, and poor resale.
@@jakes5530 ok thanks. Yes the resale is a huge issue. What other problems do you know of that affect reliability?
Turbos are a reliability issue on any engine
I have a refresh 22 with the ho 2.7 I have 42 for the lt model and I’ve gotten 34 mpg on highway trips
Hit the nail on the head.
Prices on new trucks are simply too high.
I hope everyone in the comment section owns their dream car one day.
I feel like the biggest reason folks are not buying these trucks is the price tag. Especially since many dealerships are adding "market adjustment" price hike. This cost can be $5k to $9k additionally.
I've been buying chevys for years but I have a 2017 silverado and that's just what I am going to keep for at least till these puckups become realistically priced.
I think you will be waiting a long time. With the technology advancement of adding a iPad in the dash the cost has shot up 10s of thousands for nothing. The more tech they add in the more they cost. 2021 I leased a f150 at 52k, 2023 the cost is now 63k for that same truck. It's sickening
@@theirishman088 I am getting an LT Trailboss 3.0 diesel for $56,800. MSRP is $64k. Invoice is $54,578. No markup on mine.
@The Life of James im not a fan of diesels but thats a good sign of hopefully things to come. I looked at the trail boss also but the lease was really high. Heck I looked at a traverse and it was 625 a month lol. In my area I haven't noticed markups but dealers are slime and adjust prices other ways.
@@Lionaljohn also I hope you enjoy your new truck. It's a good feeling when you find something you really want.
Here’s what I think.
1. Nobody wants to spend 50k on a basic truck
2. Chevy needs to build a full size half ton Silverado 1500 v8 with good payload and towing numbers for only 30k-35k.
Although the 5.3L is more desirable than the 2.7L, the trucks were selling well, right up to the point that the typical buyer for this truck was more worried about buying groceries than a truck that they could have bought a year ago for $100 less per month.
also lots of negative reviews on the 2.7 motor. A good failure rate for the average engine is between 1-2%. The 2.7 has a 4% failure rate....
I was considering getting a 2.7 last year, when they were selling for about 40k. I'm not wanting to get one for 50k. Ridiculous how the car makers are constantly raising their prices, little by little, and forcing people to look at used.
Legal highway robbery.
Just wait a few months and there will be $15k cash on the hood like the RAMs
Active fuel management
every year vehicles also have more stuff, people like to compare to truck prices from 10 years ago, but a truck well loaded from them would be equipped like a low end new now. id worry more about price increases in daily goods like food and clothes. thats where the robbery is. clothes and food are the same in most ways at 10 years ago except price
Heck used is only like 5k lower then new. It's all a scam
A truck without a V8 or diesel is a joke if you ask me 😂
I recently purchased a 22 Silverado Custom with the 2.7, had my heart set on a 22 RST refresh with a Duramax but they told me I would have to order and It would take about a year, this was in April of this year, I was going to wait but needed transportation. The 2.7 Custom was in their inventory and they convinced me to drive it, and see if I liked it, and I did, worse case, I could turn around and sell it in a year.
ONLY ENGINE I WANT IS 5.3 I DONT NEED DIESEL AND CERTAINLY AINT BUYING A 4 cylinder
I have that 2.7 I love the turbo the engine has a annoying sound tho but it is a nice truck I’m not upset about my purchase
I’ve got a 22 Sierra 1500 limited 5.3 and absolutely love it so far
Does your 5.3L have cylinder deactivation?
@@dantimber My new 2022 5.3 Silverado doesn't.
Just got a 2022 Silverado with the 2.7… I like it… and as far as reliability …..well I don’t keep them forever, so as long as it’s good for 50 to 60k miles, I’ll be ok! Great truck though!
@Fak Yiu Im a sucker for the new car smell! I never get to own them, oh well!! To hell with Dave Ramsey!!
Yes the 2.7 makes descent power and will almost do what a V8 will but, it works harder doing it and therefore will not last as long. The 2.7 may be great in smaller trucks and mid size to small sedans ( that’s where it shines ) but not in a full size truck.
It’s been a better engine than 5.3s. No lifter issues
@@joshtaylor1416 Not better than my old L59. No VVT, no AFM, just a simple V8.
The fact that it’s barely bigger than the 4 banger in my malaise era Chevy s10 is wild. It’s definitely working too hard for its size.
DFM only applies to the half ton gassers. I have a 2500 HD Custom with 6.6 gas, no DFM and LOVE it! MPG is 17 on highway, very good for a 3/4 ton. It tows whatever I need very well. Fully optioned Custom 4x4 6.6 gasser is best over all bang for your buck imo if you want a truck for actual truck stuff.
How does it ride? I'm interested in a 2500
@@msclecarcrzy I agree with Salvage Beast, so far I have 57,000 trouble-free miles on my 2500HD. It rides nice, we take it on road trips more than wifey's car.
@@MrSparks54 That was my only concern was the ride. But I guess these modern 2500 ride good! Thanks for the input on it.
Stop being a vag and get a semi-truck, unless you don't want a truck for actual truck stuff.
They are missing out. The 2.7 is better than the 5.3 in every way except sound. And it’s cheaper. It’s a great engine that rednecks can’t understand.
The capability and longevity keeps people away from 4 bangers... there is not enough people who specifically want full size but don't care what engine...so then it would have to be attractive if not with mpg then the price
The 2.7 Turbo is actually an excellent engine.
😂😂😂
I think at the end of the day, when people think of American full size trucks, they think V8. Most of the Silverado V8 inventory here in SE Texas seem to be 5.3's. When I bought my '21 LT Trail Boss last year, the dealership had only 1 6.2 in stock and I believe it was an RST with leather and a sunroof with some dealer installed lift kit if memory serves me correctly. Wasn't aware that the 6.2 requires premium fuel....Even more out of my budget.
I was looking for a V8 gas truck but there wasn't any and all they had was a 2022 2.0 Duramax so I got it in odessa, Texas, it's got great fuel mileage and power. Such an awesome truck
Had a 2021 gmc sierra with the 4 cylinder. Kept it only 6 months. The 8 speed transmission is junk. I had problems shifting from first to second when it was cold out. Gas mileage was only 18
My only problem with the 6.2L is that motor requires premium fuel.
It doesn’t require premium it’s recommended, the owners manual says no lower than 87 octane.
Pretty much everyone I know that has one just runs the mid grade (89) and says it’s perfectly fine like that. No less MPG or engine knocking or anything, runs the same on 89 and 93.
It requires lifters before warranty is up probably too
@@agger838 Prove it sheep.
@@elonmust7470 Bigslim12 go see there
Something from a company who has had trouble with drivetrains that has been around and they can’t get it right means that if the 2.7 is troublesome you now have a truck with less resale and ability with a manufacturer with questionable drivetrain reliability.
Where I live all the GM lots are empty and have been for months! Very few new vehicles seem to show up, almost like they are turning into used car lots. I can only assume supply chain issues.
Not sure if you are aware but there is a second wave chip shortage as of earlier this month that prevents dealers from ordering a 6.6 diesel from GM or Chev, one of the 2 main chips they use for the motor are unavailable so they stopped orders with that drivetrain, and are cranking out the gassers that only take one of the 2 chips.
Thanks for the video!
Don’t believe the lie about chip shortages, these manufacturers can buy chips from different companies but choose not to because they are trying to build them on the cheap to continue to over charge us
Finally looking good inside & out but I’m not trusting those troublesome lifters in any GM engine, maybe it is time to buy the GM BEV but after it’s proven.
I bought a 2022 2.7 4WD cause I was moving to North Dakota and honestly so far it’s been great I’m at 8k miles but I don’t haul anything daily with it
I’m currently not in the market for a new pickup but it’s still the same story ongoing. The 6.2 will do it all and I haven’t had any problems over the past 127,000 miles. I did order a Maverick thingy but have no idea when it might arrive. Never selling my real truck.
Don’t worry eventually-when the 2.7 Silverado is discounted 15k-they will sell.
I think the Google operating system and the three-year app fee has something to do with these lower trims/engine not selling as well.
The lower trims do not have an "app" fee. Currently no Chevrolet truck has this fee.
My disappointment with the 2.7L is not only is it a 4 cylinder but it has the complication of turbochargers and cylinder deactivation.
I've been dreaming of a new truck for quite some time, I have a 2002 Chevy silverado Lt 5.3 z71 4wd standard bed and although its still an amazing truck I feel instead of sticking a bunch of money into paint and repairs I would just up grade. What I have found is that they truly are forcing everything but the 6.2's. The 5.3's are abundant as are the 2.7's, but if you want a 6.2 with a standard bed well you either have to buy a ZR2 or be quick and lower your expectations. Now you can find the 6.2 with the short bed but the prices are extremly high, now I love the trucks but 68,000 and it's not the top of the line is ridiculous to me. How about a video about the best time of year to buy and how to avoid mark ups
Because they are too expensive for what you get
The 3.0 duramax is a no brainer. The only engine without cylinder deactivation, which has proven to be problematic on GM trucks especially the 5.3. I suspect many people will be placing orders for the upcoming LZ0 duramax, with increased power and torque numbers and additional updates to fix any of the LM2’s problems, it’s going to be hard to ignore…
@@lonemillenial2707 god dammit, is that confirmed officially? I thought that was just a rumor
I have a 2020 5.3 no cylinder deactivation. no problems
@@user-fv2sj2eh2w good buy
@@user-fv2sj2eh2w That's my question. It looks like a lot of new Silverado's and Sierra's with 5.3L don't have cylinder deactivation although the internals are there.
Custom dosnt have the ability for deactivation . The LT s do not sure why . The Custom is sopost to be more of a work truck though. 2021 models I had heard they were no longer going to do cylinder deactivation going to do software updates to stop it . I believe for the class action lawsuit. Iv owend many 5.3 put well over 250 thousand and always been good motors for me .
I have the 3.0 Duramax and love it. The low end torque is amazing for towing. Being an inline 6 cylinder the end is smooth and balanced.
What kind of mpg do you get towing and not towing?
@@skoolynugenator1802 local driving I'm averaging around 20mpg. Highway I've gotten up to 34mpg. Towing around 8k I get 13-14mpg. I have the 3.73 rear end also.
Can't find a 6.2 in the updated version in VA. I just drove a 2019 Ram 1500 Limited with the air ride. I'm leaning hard in that direction.
I just bought a Silverado 2022 1500 with the 5.3. I went for that instead of a 2.7 because frankly a 4 cylinder is junk in my mind for a truck. I didn’t want the fuel bill of the 3.0 and it was down to the 5.3 or 6.2 but I went with the 5.3 because it is a work horse. Also mine came with out dynamic fuel management or active fuel management which I am grateful for because I got rid of my 2017 Silverado for that reason. The new one drives and handles well and it will be put to good use with hauling lots of big deer and bear out of the field.
Yea man I'm with you I just bought a 23 rst with a 5.3 it was my first choice motor wise. If I'm going to own a diesel it's going to be a pre 05 dodge with a common rail Cummins or a pre 98 12v. I had an 18 2500 with a diesel it was junk Cause of dpf .I wasn't buying no full size with a 4 cylinder in it and the 6.2 wasn't in my price range. I don't care what anyone says the 5.3 is reliable i get a lot of vans at work with 5.3s and 6.0 LS in them with 500k miles plus still going strong.
@@calank923 mine didn’t come equipped with the dfm or afm which is a issues with sone of the older silverados. I haven’t had a issue with me and it drives well and handles off road very well considering sone of the places I take it.
I dunno, the idea that any of the V8s could grenade themselves between 1,000 and 100,000 miles turns out to be a real bummer. I went with Toyota. My white paint may flake off (or not, who knows) but it probably won't leave me stranded with a blown engine.
I wish Toyota stayed with their v8
Toyota is having turbo issues already
@@Tiovergudo Old news. It's also rare. It also won't potentially grenade your engine like a failed lifter might *cough GM cough*
@@cojaro87 thats the thing. Of these lifer issues don’t require new engine. Just cam swap and lifter swap. Plenty of videos of those jobs.
@@Tiovergudo already? Lol they just released it and of course it’ll have issues. The tundra to buy is the v8. It’ll last you well over 300k if taken care of properly and not in the rust belt.
Make the 2.7 trucks with a center console and they'll sell more. I'm not against a turbo'd 4-cylinder. I am against that awful front bench seat.
And prices are too high!
Scotty Kilmer told us not to.
I just saw on the news today that Ford has 40,000 vehicles that can’t be sold because of supply chain problems. In Hamtramck, MI I saw a lot that has at least 1,000 F-Series trucks on it. There’s no Ford dealership or plant in the area.
I drive a 2012 Silverado with the 5.3. Shes at 182,000 and no problems, knock on wood. Ive heard the horror stories about the lifter problems though. I did buy the thing you plug into the OBD 2 port to make it stay in V8 mode all the time, but i know that wont prevent lifter issues. It made a difference in drivability though. Since its made it this long, hopefully itll keep going
The funny part about the 2.7 is 90% of the people buying pickups it is enough motor for them. The people that buy pickups but never haul or tow heavy this pickup is perfect for them. Too many people need a V8 pickup to help their manhood.
I think plenty of people don’t tow much but might need it down the road. If you need it a couple times a year you still need the capability. Why buy some wimpy four banger that gets the same fuel economy as something that can actually tow?
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IMO GM isn’t that good at 4 cylinder engines. I have a 2.7 truck but it’s a F150. It’s a great reliable engine that’ll pull and get get over 20mpg unloaded.
I agree with you, kids need to hear a v8 with a lift kit when you get older that shit don’t matter anymore, now if you need the power to tow than buy something else plenty of choices and at the end of the day it’s all about what you need
turbo 4 with cylinder deactivation in a full size. reliability suffers. plus the expense. I ordered a ranger base 4x4 in December and finally getting it this month. $35k with the 2.3 turbo that has been around at least a decade
The 2 7L is being forced, on the public aka government fuel economy. The 2.7 is a future boat anchor, the GM 8 spd transmission, has a lot of issues, and an ongoing class action lawsuit. If you actually need a truck for hauling, the 6.2L is the way to go. I personally, will not purchase, a 2.7L or diesel engine. As for used Chevrolet Silverado trucks, I'm finding multiple, 2.7L trucks available.
I hope the class action lawsuits for the transmissions work out better than the ones for the engines.
My 2020 2.7/8speed has 30k miles and smooth as butter. Perfect power for day to day and the transmission is excellent. I might be the minority.
The 5.3 is pretty reliable and a proven engine
Yeah I don't know what all of these people are talking about the 5.3 being unreliable.. It's damn near bulletproof.
Not true. Lifters wipe out the cam too😊
I live in the southern burbs of Chicago, most new trucks on the lots have the 2.7 even Trail Boss. My thoughts are resale value in the future will be bad on all trucks considering the average purchase price of today, the 2.7 will take a bigger hit. Although the 2.7 is more than good enough in day to day the user experience is lost in the sound and smoothness. Any diesel or 6.2 that hits the lot is usually sold before they hit the lot
2021 trailboss 6.2 installed pulsar no cylinder deactivation 😀
Just picked up 5.3 RST love it
Here in Minnesota, every idiot drives one of those. It's almost like if you don't drive a silverado, you aren't one of the cool kids.
People Will Order A 6.2L V8 Because It Is Hard Find At Every Dealership Because Ordering A Vehicle Is A Popular Thing The 3.42 & A 3.73 Axle Ratios Are Hard To Find At Every Dealership. It's Not About Trucks A Lot Of People Don't Buy Them Except The Cars That People Always Buy. You Don't Need A Trailer For A Truck But It's All About Payload Because Payload Is In Every Car & Truck.The Duramax Diesel I6 Is A Must Fuel Efficient Truck If You Need One If You Don't Need It A Diesel Gas Price Too High It's Best To Get The 2.7L Turbocharged Engine The 5.3L Small Boy V8 & The 6.2L Big Boy V8 Because They Are Cheaper The 6.2 Requires 93 Octane Because You Get The Best Performance Out Of It Which Is My Favorite Thing.
I buy Rst 2023 5.3l, i drive 10 miles and the transmission fail. Almost 2 months waiting the repair in the dealership.
Anybody know if they got the torque converter issue resolved in the new Chevys on the 10 speeds I've got a 2020 3.0 Duramax that they can't seem to fix. Looks like I just need to buy a new truck.
Lots are loaded in NH with every brand.
Side note: more common is the 3.6L in the ram 1500 now. Seem to be pushing those now. Couldn’t find a 5.7 for under 60k in my area. Went with a ford stx with the 5.0 sitting on the lot waiting for me. 🤷🏻♂️
Also. Custom package on Silverado is stupid. No steering wheel controls??? Cmon man lol
@@arekay21 you can get steering wheel controls on custom
Scotty Kilmer says 4 cylinders wind up not being as long lasting as 8s.And you can't tow as much.Half the trucks bought are bought for towing,or future towing in mind.Modern half tons have gotten lighter and lighter and most Rv people are finding out that 3/4ton or one tons will haul both light and heavy travel trailers.Watch the heavier duty market...its not super...but steady as the RVers have increased.Also...some wise buyers are holding back until dealers quit their market adjustment fees.Its about 4500$ extra in SE Texas.Cut that out and have sales.The dealers are shooting themselves in the foot.
I have the 5.3 and it's perfect for my needs. I would be open to the idea of the Turbo Four if it came with the 10 speed.
My local Chevy dealer has more trucks now than at any time in probably the last two years… I don’t know what engine is in them though…They have like 10 trucks right now…..
I don't by the logic of better fuel mileage with a diesel. Example I buy gas for $3.00 a gallon and travel 20 miles to the gallon. I buy diesel for $6.00 a gallon and get 40 miles to the gallon. This means in reality it cost me the same whether it's gas or diesel and I travel the same. The only real reason to go diesel is if you have to haul a constant heavy pay load on a regular basis.Other wise the cost and mileage is the same .How ever hauling a heavy pay load will actually cost you more. Because you won't get 40 miles to a gallon hauling a heavy pay load it will be far less than 40 miles to a gallon.
I bought a 2.7 it’s perfect for what I use it for, I don’t tow any plus it’s a second vehicle that I put about 6,500 miles on it a year
between the lifter issues and afm/dfm thats a deterrent on the 2.7/5.3/6.2, and the previous gen 2.7 was down on power compared to the '22 , not sure if buyers are aware the '22 got a hefty power bump in the 2.7, Duramax (any Diesel) is useless for short commutes, I had a '22 trailboss 6.2 and the only gas engine id buy in a truck from GM but now driving a '22 Tremor and enjoying the drive of the 3.5 EB that came in without auto stop,much better. Granted the 6.2 sounded much better
How’s u enjoy your TB 6.2L I actually found a decent deal on one but thinking twice on pulling the trigger
Got an elevation with the 2.7 HO and sold my 5.3 2017 6speeds and i dont regret it at all . The 2.7 sound is the only drawback . People say that the 5.3 get the same fuel mileage but its not the 2.7 is way better in town and slightly better on the highway overall its better torquier and faster and the front of the truck is pretty light .
2.7 and the 5.3 gas is the same. 2.7 has a higher gear ratio and the 5.3 10 speed automatic has a lower gear ratio
My 2.7 gets way better than my 5.3.
In my area I can’t find a 2.7 4cylinder they are bought just as quickly as they hit the lot. I’ve even talked to one of the dealerships and they recommended to ordering one vs just trying to finding one! I have a friend who traded in his 4.3 liter v6 because he does very little towing just a popup camper or a boat witch his new truck does very well and when he’s not towing it gets better gas mileage than the v6.
I my wife and I went with the 5.3 liter engine in our 2022 Silverado, we went with this engine because we don’t have a need for a 6.2 liter nor a 3.0 Duramax. We drove the 2.7 liter truck and it seemed to have less power and exceleration than my 2002 Suburban with the 5.3 liter engine. Our new truck does not have the DFM system installed which a selling point for us.
What truck do you drive @benhardy
Stop. Just. Stop. The 3.0 is "way more reliable than the 5.3 v8"? That is simply untrue. The 3.0 is unproven in this regard. Tell me that at 150k when you are done paying $2200 to replace the 3.0 belt requiring transmission removal
Dave smith has in Idaho has 124 half ton rams and 82 GMC/Chevy half tons combined 65 chevys and that number was under 30 for most of the year but they have had plenty of rams all year
This is the case for Rams here. One dealership has over 100 1500's in stock. The closest Chevrolet dealership has about 8 Silverados with 5 of them are Customs. F150's are very scarce. But there are plenty of Ram's available.
Are you certain the 3.0 diesel engine is more reliable than the 5.3 gas engine? Source?
I think the 5.3 V8 should be standard on all full size trucks. The fuel economy isn’t that much more. Plus it’s a truck. If you’re buying a truck, fuel economy shouldn’t be a consideration. It’s a TRUCK. Want fuel economy and save a few bucks? Get a Prius or Civic. (Loved my 2014 Civic, had it for 8 years). The 2.7 does make more sense for the new Colorados though.
Plus, prices are way too high 😂
I had a Silverado with a 5.3 then went to a Sierra with a V-6. Biggest mistake ever. You'll never ever regret having more power than you need. Plus the mpg's are about the same.
One would think the 10 speed us more needed for smaller engine to keep the rpm in best range
Right! It's a TRUCK! V8 all day. Screw a full sized truck with a 4 banger.
They need to rework the 5.3. It's HP/Torque numbers haven't changed in a decade. I've had three different Chevy's with the 5.3 and I've always felt it was underpowered. People buying new trucks are buying them for the latest that manufacturers have to offer....this includes increases in HP/Torque to help justify the increased cost.
I’ve owed several GM vehicles. The best powertrain they is the 3.0 Hands down. I own a 21’ and love it. Avg 25mpg empty and not light on the throttle at all. Now the rest of the GM 1/2 ton trucks is well…ehh lack luster at best.
Just purchased a 2023 Chevy Silverado 1500 RST 4WD 6.2L Ecotec in Fayetteville, NC. I was lucky they had this on the lot. Right away, told the salesperson, I want it. Test drive took me through the near Ford Dealership. Many eyes on me and felt good. When I got back, 2 customers were looking for this truck. Sorry, sold. I am buying a travel trailer for camping and 4 and 6 cylinders are not for me. The truck is silver in color, and this may trigger a look at airstream trailers.
I got a 4-cylinder 27 Turbo beautiful color of a wine burgundy simple truck it does pretty good on Miles I average 2021 and I already have 40,000 miles and I had it since October 2021 to present day
What about Gmc is it the same...
Coming soon: GM announces its discontinuing the 2.7 Turbo in 1/2 ton trucks 🫠
Given GM's history of poor, illogical decisions, I wouldn't be surprised if they discontinued the 3.0 Duramax. I am actually expecting it given Ram and Ford discontinued their diesel engines in the 1/2 tons.
i can the duramax in the 1500s blowing left and right when the belt in the back of the motor fails down the road not every one is going to change em on time as a mechanic i see that alot with other cars
I own a 2020 Trail Boss with the 6.2. Nobody wants a full size truck with a 4 cylinder engine that sounds like a sewing machine. The gas mileage with the 4 cylinder engine is not any better than my 6.2 for the most part. Keep the V8....
expensive sewing machines. RAM Revolution event coming on November 16th for L.A. Auto show!
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I've noticed that the chevy dealers have the 2.7 marked 8000 off msrp
I think people are realizing that GM hasn't fixed their lifter and transmission issues. Read up the most recent class action lawsuit.
Chevy needs to put just a little bit more horsepower in the 5.3. Guarantee to sell more of them.
I think its the price and the people who were buying the 2.7 got out of the market cause of the gas prices. When the 2.7 came out it was much cheaper the the 5.3. Now they are around the same price
What is the longevity of a four cylinder turbo boost Chevy truck
Don't look at mpg look at mile per $. You're getting 30 gallons of gas to 20 gallons on diesel. You're going the same distance for the same price. Repairs will be triple the cost in a diesel minimum
Ben; you know EXACTLY why.
The fuel mileage from the 2.7 l in the 5.3 isn't a lot. I don't know who was asking for the 2.7 . It doesn't make sense to me to have that size motor in a full size truck. Unless you just use it to go to the grocery store. It's crazy because someone at GM actually approve this for a full size truck.
I think it has to do with geography. East coast Ram dealers are flush with V6 1500 series crew cabs. Chevy has a ton of 2.7's. Who would want one? Seriously? What I'm having a hard time finding is a V8 with a front bench that's not a work truck.
Hmmm in my small town here in Indiana the Chevy dealer has been selling trucks just fine...the ones they had 2 weeks ago are gone and new ones are in their place. Seems their business is very steady unlike the Ford dealership I can see from my back door they are not moving alot and that dealership just went thru a complete rebuild as the old one was from the 60's. The ram dealer up the street the lot is full and not moving alot, but they are the dealer for the Indiana state police cars and trucks so the ones that are white in color seem to be moving well, but I see one in a dark maroon that has been sitting there for 3 months now and still hasn't sold I suspect it's loaded with a 100K price tag on it.
I’ve got a 2015 Silverado LTZ Z71 with the 5.3 & I have a bad taste in my mouth now that I had lifter trouble. Dealership fixed it with me paying $3200 & GM did help with some of it. Not sure if I will buy another one. All of the auto manufacturers are out pricing a lot of people & people can’t afford them anymore like me.
You should go to pucklich chevorleot in Bismarck ND
I have a 2014 with cylinder deactivation and 80k miles with no issues. I would prefer no cylinder deactivation on my next purchase. It’s pointless to be honest. 3.0 will be my next choice or 5.3 with no DFM
It's a known fact that when car companies do a "refresh" there will be a redesign next
In a 1500 truck.. I'd want zero to do with a 4cyl. If you tow.. you simply will get garbage gas mileage worse than the V8's.
If I'm gonna take a 5.3 V8.. I'd only get it if I was getting a good discount.
I prefer the 6.2 engine for gas.. Chevy really hit a home run with their 6.2L
Duramax you pay more in fuel.. but you can go farther per tank.
I don't tow often.. so I'm not sure if I'd get a Superduty.
Here in Houston a custom goes for 44-43k an lt goes for 54-55
My neighbor has the 2.7L and he likes it but he said he hates the way it sounds. I'm going to look at the 3.0L diesel or go 2500 6.6L gas because I hate DFM. Probably go with the 2500.
I have ALWAYS never even considered buying ANYTHING other than a Chevy until recently. I still even have 2 Silverado's right now. I just bought a new 2022 5th gen Ram. I did that because of the lifter ticking/valve train issues with GM and they are not doing anything about it! They have had since 2007 to do something about it! I have 2 Camaros and 1 Silverado with this issue, and I am not going to spend $100k to have the same thing yet again!
It’s because gm has not put their time and money into creating good engine options. A 2.7 4cyl is dumb, why not a 6cyl like Ford. GM has the same engines with same power and same mpg while Ford is always a step a head in their engine choices and it all blows other competitors away in power and mpg.
4 cyl gets torque quicker.
My local dealer has 29 1500 trucks. Chevy and GMC, Less then half are the 2.7L most are 5.3L actually. And currently only one 6.2L ZR2...And two 3.0L duramax trucks. So im lucky.
Why aren't they getting the 6.2 in. I only see the 5.3, or the Duramax.
Let's remember that the dealers are off and settled with the most undesirable truck combinations because the factory has to justify building enough of them cost-wise so a lot of those Ford and Chevy dealers have to take one of those undesirable trucks for every two desirable trucks they take. So they sit on the lot and grow flat spots on the tires because nobody wants them because the dealers are forced to take them. They didn't order them. I'm sure you know that
My uncle owned a Chevrolet dealership and would have 150 pickups on his lot at any time 100 half tons
Given its mediocre fuel economy, the 2.7 makes absolutely no sense in an expensive full size truck, especially mated with the sh*tty 8 speed transmission. I wouldn't even consider that powertrain. The only engine I would buy in a GM truck right now is the upcoming LZ0 Duramax. Unfortunately, the popularity of that engine will almost certainly lead to GM raising the price on it. Currently it's about a $2300 option on a RST, which is the trim I'm planning on ordering, but I'd bet GM will raise that to at least $4000 for 2023 m/y. I think demand for the diesel caught them way off guard and now they are stuck with all these 2.7s that will have to be deeply discounted to sell. But now that the writing is on the wall concerning the Duramax, there will surely be a cash grab coming.
I have a 2019 new body style 1500 has 64,000 mi
Transmission bangs slowing when stopping in traffic
And Oil cooler lines blew this wk lost 5qts towed in out of warranty $1320.00