Longsword Fighting - Awesome Exchanges!
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- Опубликовано: 4 дек 2018
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Darkling Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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To be honest this is way cooler than most fight scenes in media
But also a lot shorter
@@pxolqopt3597 well, in this case the first to hit the opponent with the blades win, but in a real fight, it's not like just one cut to the leg or the arm would kill or put the opponent out of combat
Very true. ROTS Obi Wan vs Anakin was my favorite scene in media
Japanese media doesn't seem to have the same problem, at least outside anime and even they can be pretty accurate at times, and watch any classic samurai flick like Kurosawa's stuff and it's very well done.
@@HandleMyBallsRUclips I think it’s because
1. Hollywood sucks
2. I’d say their arts were better preserved as more people took an interest to them over European fighting styles and thus its better recognized than western martial arts.
the olympics would be getting so much more traction if this was in their selection
This comment should be at the top.
Dude true
First to 10 hits win
With armor
First step is getting it more internationally known. You have a lot in America and Europe, but you're gonna need buy in from South American countries, Asian countries, African countries, and Middle Eastern countries
I'm sure you've already seen someone else say it but if the fencing federation incorporated longswords it likely wouldn't look like this. Regular Swordfish longsword matches (lots of hopping, probing, one handed thrusts) is a good insight into what it could look like on the international stage, they don't usually look like this.
These lethal, life-threatening transactions take place in matters of seconds. Imagine how bloody, quick, and chaotic a real sword battle would be on a medieval battlefield back in the 1200's. It must be horrifying to live through
Depending on the situation maybe they were more defensive.
Also in some of those sitations it wouldn't really have been over. From what I've heard fights sometimes dragged on with a least one party having open cut wounds.
only true with maybe Napoleonic era duelists, armor would be different
Medieval melees probably look more like the group ACL (armored combat league) battles, TBH.
Even then, they were probably more thrusty with halberds -- banned for obvious reasons in ACL.
Now we have more knowledge of fighting styles and technology that allows us to analyse each fight so nowadays we technically have better fighters or at least could have better ones.
@Ethan Full plate metal armour only was worn in the late 15th and 16th century. Before that you’ll have exposed areas in the neck, armpits or the back of the legs. The further you go back in time the less armour. In the 11th century plate metal in general was very rare / not existent. Most knights wore chainmail and a gambeson + helmet.
1:17 is such a cool move. Used the momentum of the parry to go for the neck
It's uno reverse
First guy: "Parry this you filthy-"
Sec guy: "You parry this filthy casual"
@@han_xiao4280 sounds like for honor tbh
Yea it was slick. Had to rewatch it a few times to see what really happened.
hell yeah it sped his sword up like crazy. when i first saw it i was like where did that come from!?
@@han_xiao4280 Dodge this you bastard!
0:30 - that hanging parry was sexy.
it was tho
@@stormingboy6016 yep, too bad he died afterwards
@@jrbcodes think he was talking about the other guy
@@sylaconnocalys8443 he was
wr
0:30
that fucking back block makes me immensely excited
it gave me anakin vibes
This is what we thought we were doing with sticks and pool floaties when we were kids.
I love these sparring exchanges that you guys post.
The excellent editing, slow motion replays, and highlighting points of contact make it easy for nearly anyone to follow.
And sword fights are so COOL.
1:17 that was so damn fluid
1:17 - 1:26 was absolutely beautiful!
@@tyrellwilson9334 Very true.
1:22 Decapitation!
Fatality
1:17 looked soooo amazing, SPLENDID WORK!
As a fencer, watching this is a combination of pure pain and pure envy.
well, it's hard to implement this as an actual sport, unlike fencing, closest thing to this is probably epee
I mean literal pain, I think getting whacked by one of those swords would hurt like a MF
@@apollo1694 no it would be pretty easy to do, there are tons of varied combat sports. The most challenging thing when implementing this would be how follow up attacks (or landing a blow immediately after being struck) are handled, as you don't want to reward a participant for a careless attack, nor a participant for bad defense
is this choreographed?
@@yxng_tugz no its not
They didn’t even shoulder bash once, do they not know the meda?
Ahhh, I see, you're a man of culture aswell
Shoulder bash and light spam
Zannclan?
@@pavolverescak1712 yessir!
@@Mitsuru-Miki MMMMMMMMMISERUM!
That first fool’s guard attack was really well done! Both fought well, I just really liked that exchange
You're too gangster for this lol
Mojtaba Taher I see
Care to explain? My good sir.
@@sippsleezy5452 does that have to do,how theres tarot fool and minister in chess…
@@Mwsa91 there's a type of guard or stance called "the fool's guard", he's not calling the fighter a fool lmao don't worry
Send this video to Hollywood. Movie scene productors must improve their perception of swordfighting. Incredible video by the way :)
love to see these in the movie. Every producer thinks it is not cool but actually, it is really cool and stunning.
@@williamchan1613 Exactly! All movies are full of unrealistic, extremely long exchanging sword fights. Seems like fighters try to hit the opponent's sword instead of hitting them ^^
@@williamchan1613 I guess it's done the way it is because actors aren't fighters, so flashy is easier than clean. I'm not sure, though.
I want to see a movie where half way into the sword fight, one guy says "fuck it," grabs the other guy's sword by the blade, and full force kicks him across the room before beating him with the pommels.
@@oguzhantavus4237 hey i mean in Pirates of the Caribbean the fight in the blacksmith's shop was pretty ok.
This is probably the first HEMA vid I've seen that actually excited me. Great movement, lots of action, and still clearly a good deal of skill from both combatants. Fantastic video!
That was the most clanging metal-against-metal sounds IRL swordfighting match I've ever seen, and it's way cooler than most movies' fight choreography
Aight. Longswords ain't that slow as i supposed.
Those are training swords. Look at the blade theyre pretty thing and way lighter than "real" ones
@@Zigeuninja no, they make up for it with thickness. A typical training sword is 1600-1800 grams, and a typical longsword is 1400-1700.
So, on average, the training swords are actually a bit heavier
@@Zigeuninja a long sword is like a 2-3 pounds lol you could literally swing it as easily as a broomstick, it's really not a strength based weapon like a Warhammer or something
@@antoinelachapelle3405 Even Warhammers aren't as strength based as many think. Obviously the force you hit with is important, but they're made to be light enough to allow for proper movement, and the weight of the hammer makes dealing substantial blows a lot easier.
@@Bistai949 Yes, it's very well balanced and such, I'm not saying you need to be strong to deal a serious blow or use it, it's just that it's top heavy and so you need more force to re-direct your blows compared to a sword
This is awesome i have always wanted to learn more about sword arts as well as other weapons i mostly do hand to hand training and have recently been adapting handguns and knives but still want to learn more historical weapons
1:18 best one
Gah the orange fighters footwork and discipline is just fantastic. So structured and able to address every angle while patiently waiting for the opening.
There were some really nice exchanges there. Excellent work.
Damn these are some great exchanges! Some of those were perfect examples of distance and timing!
I loved the timing and position of the fighter without boots at 0:34. It shows the immense versatility of the low vom Tag position.
Now THAT is how a real longsword fight could look.
exquisite exchanges! Better than the movies!
Real sword fights: *tense, no time for error, lots of iron clashes, elegant*
Movie sword fights: *backflip jump suck on your toe while doing it backflips again balances sword on his nose and wins*
This should be a TV show, with their armor being those 3d movie suits so we can see the aftermath with added effects like blood
Kevin is back congratulations
This I what we wish all swordfights were like. Awesome. 🙂
Beautiful! Perfection. Thank you for this.
I’m mainly a foil fencer, but have fence epee and saber. Would definitely love to try out long sword hema fighting cuz there’s a lot more movement and it’s a way different style.
This is an epic exchange. Awesome to see!
1:15 Damn, literally a beheading strike, don't usually see someone pull off a cert-kill move as opposed to a limb cut or a stab.
just want to mantion , u can see they do not steb, couse its the most danger to actually hurt u training partner
@@callonblub1833 The swords they use are perfectly safe for stabbing each other with their protective gear.
It’s incredibly difficult to be head with a sword in the middle of combat.
Realistically that’s a nasty cut at the back of the neck, it could have gone deep enough to sever the spinal cord if the strike went between the vertebrae. Hell it could have also just broken the neck.
But if it didn’t do either of those things(which is about a 30% chance honestly), then the opponent is still capable of fighting and will likely die a short time after the fight ends (30 minutes to an hour I’d wager)
That last exchange with the face touch was very nice, I missed it to start with.
All of those were absolutely incredible
Incredible footwork.
Such a beautiful sound
This game should be accepted in Olympic.
Sweet. You can even tell the cuts and such being used.
Dude this looks bad ass man, if you fought like his back in the day, you earned that kill.
Wow! The sound of ringing metal. The last sounds you hear before one perishes in combat.
1:33 ive watched this video a dozen times over and this dodge is still just as badass
Started HEMA at a local place just a few weeks ago. Love it
Hi can I ask what body protection these people are wearing? I'd love to look into it more
Its fun regardless of short exchanges or with the longer ones
Good job guys. Great performance
Awesome sword play. And possibly the first time that Ive seen a bare foot swordsman.
I was wondering how duels actually play out, thanks for the frame of reference!
Duels were usually a lot slower because people are scared of dying. Usually you'd keep your distance and just snipe at the opponent rather than go in for these fast, close exchanges, since in most duels all you had to do was injure your opponent to win, and the last thing you want is for both people to be injured and later die of infections.
Other commenter is correct this guy isn’t the least afraid of getting hit also he moves his weapon from his center an embarrassing number of times and doesn’t get stabbed once for aggression. Overall unrealistic and bad form. I’m quite tired of seeing this sort of mistakes in hema seems to be absolutely pervasive
@@dorjedriftwood2731 It's like you're not happy that people aren't forced to stab each other to death as much as they used to. Like with most martial arts, HEMA is also now a sport for better and for worse. You win by getting more points. Or do you want to bring swordfighting to the death back into the mainsteam? Nothing more realistic than heads and arms getting cut off after all.
vim pelo pensando rpg, tenho uma duvida, batalhas utlizando espada ou até em uma luta contra animais, os combates são longos? ou podem ser descididos em menos de 10 movimentos, como no vídeo mostrado.
Really awesome, as you say
Nice art ...really I'm impressed
You can use the protected leag and shoes to control the weapon or push a side it is still an option that achievable at lest by me... of course you need good reflexes
I never expected it to be this quick.
Crom would be pleased.
I Googled this to get inspiration for a DnD fighter and I was not disappointed
Really awesome stuff!!!
Last one is underrated IMO. Such a deadly attack and the guy hardly needs to move to do it.
Wow, better than any movie I've ever seen.
The kind of battle I wanna see in movies. Skills, logic and quick end.
Looks scary though. I wonder how people fight in war Like this against thousands in medieval times.
some very nice exchanges
Now THIS is content!
1:17 literal execution, thats some movie type kill right there.
So in my local area they have SCA and I’m noticing that in my observation is that the SCA seems to approach things more in a hobbyist sense, whereas HEMA is more like what I am personally used to and much more like training in hand to hand martial arts in comparison where it seems…. More serious and less fan boy. I think I may start driving the hour and start going to some HEMA classes, especially since they teach small sword which is one of my all time favorites
Imagine all the noise from many hundreds swords in a battle back in the days
so cool! this is what a real swordfight is...
I see what he means in movies the long sword is used all wonky the fluidity in your motion its actually stunning
Really awesome stuff
I'm saving this. and learn from it.
This is amazing!
That one hit to the nape looks like it hurt
Time to grapple in the bind - that's more fun!
My dream since I was a kid was to watch a true knight duel and damn this looks cool
I don't know much about sword fighting. Just started training the long pole in Kung Fu but I seen on someone else's video explain that back when people would fight in armor they would actually grab the blade with the other hand to push it thru weak points or flip sword around and use is like a hammer way by also holding blade with two hands. New to this channel but do y'all ever train that? Looks like good techniques in the video. Noticed a lol of similar movement from training pole. Curious why you hit so hard like swinging a bat without deflecting and going straight forward after the deflection. But this is sparring so that's probably why I guessing. But lots of nice moves. Learn a lot watching stuff like this.
Yeah, we know about half swording, but I don't know if they train on it.
But your observation is good: it's pretty much like a pole arm, as well as any close quarter weapon of such a size. It can even get grip backward(like a pickaxe) or on the blade (like a spear)
And the violence behind the swing is very normal:
These models for practise are rather light compared to what the heaviest greatswords (or slaughter swords) were
It could be 3time these which weight around 1.2 kilograms!
And this weight made blunt impact! It is not the first purpose of a sword, for sure, but it was really a weapon to fear!
Oh,and welcome to this Channel ! If you're such a curious fellow about medieval swords, you're at the perfect place! :D
@@brandorgraccus6653 cool. Just curious. Looks fun as hell
About deflecting, he does it, 1:22, but as I saw for Africans sword styles, the way to deal with parrying/deflecting is different depending on when and who you learn from.
In our jargon, we can only call it technique I guess.
@@brandorgraccus6653 yeh saw that part was definitely a nice move. I meant like deflect and like stab straight forward. But I guess the other fighter would just counter that move usually. Just now getting into training weapons so trying to pick up a few things.
Look up Skallagrim he had a video on this very thing. It's called (When holding the blade and handle trying to get it into gaps in armour) half-swording. The other idea you mention (holding the blade and striking with the hilt) is called a murder strike (or stroke I can't remember) Holding a sword like that can also allow you to strike with the pommel. I have seen some halfswording on this channel (or maybe it was Skal's as he records here sometimes) but yeah some halfswording took place.
this is what i like to think i look like in Blade & sorcery...
"The blade isn't the only part of a sword."
Liam Neeson as 'Godfrey', Kingdom of Heaven.
Great stuff,
I wonder how the people walkig down the street feel...
Closest thing I can think of that comes close to this is Anakin vs Obi Wan in revenge of sith. Of course minus the flips and spins if you look carefully I'd say some it it really cam resemble some hema 😀
A RUclipsr by the name of "Shadiversity" actually made a great analysis of it. You should check him out.
i feel like you could benefit from boxing footwork in this sort of style .. even some ducking and weaving, the two combinations would prove pretty effective ..
You'd get killed in a second if you ducked in a sword fight, actually.
Woah
I wish I could do this
This is how fast a real sword fight really is. A few exchanges and someone is dead within seconds.
Unlikely to die so easily. Real world fights would be far more cagey and each blow landed would not mean instant death.
@@bighands69 Fair enough. Unless the wound is a thrust to the solar plexus or a cut to the neck deep enough to sever the jugular vein
I dont like invoming adrenaline because that's cringey, but humans take a lot to go down for good
However, we do know, iirc, that most fights were indeed to first blood or the first hit. Whether out of incapacitation or self preservation I dont know.
Does anybody knows how to buy one of those blunt practice swords?
@@user-zw5hs6hw7t you can purchase them online, there are many retailers. I recommend Kvetun swords
Badass. Love it.
Is it just dull swords? What else is done to keep from injuring each other?
First they are just training swords. So they are dulled and the point will be removed/have a ball at the end. Then they wear thick protective equipment (a gambeson, layered cloth with padding) and some gauntlets for the hands. Its very safe especially when its done at a HEMA club
A filmmaker should hire you guys to do some cool choreography. This really does look polished enough to be in a movie
You're right. It would add more realism to a movie.
cool, great job
I want in, where can i go to start training.
Nice nachreisen for both of you!
Was thrusting forbidden in this? I saw a couple points where a feint to thrust from low guard could have clinched a quick win. Of course, it's always easy to critique from the outside.
Yeah more commentary would be nice.
This is kind of epic!!
I’m more of a kendo and Kenjutsu guy myself but this this is amazing great fighting really entertaining all around great job
You'd be surprised just how similar European Longsword and Japanese sword fighting is. Considering they are of similar length and weight there's only so many ways to move the body. Of course there is very Key differences but also alot of similarities from blade handling down to footwork.
Very cool.
Is thrusting not allowed or effective? I just stumbled into this.
They need to invent a “super like button” for videos like this
the most impressive part of this, is the mirror in the background which is not broken
I would totally live there
INCREDIBLIS!
Very very good.