She plays almost the entire concerto "sul tasto". But then she has an astonishing sul tasto that produces an incredible sound. It is an original performance, and in some interviews she has said that there are enough very good more traditional performances, that she should not be expected to produce yet another copy of that. She's a true artist.
Thank you for living Patricia Kopatchinskaja. You jumped, you danced, you cried, you sang, you laughed and you loved - that is what music and life calls us to do and you did this for us and not for you. To give your heart and touch the hearts and souls of others is true artistry and true humanity. Many knowledgeable listeners and musicians will have found this performance challenging. I know this piece very well and have played this piece many times (not so well!) and have had the privilege to see many live performances played by among others Perleman, Zukerman, Menuhin, Hahn, Vengerov, Mutter, Repin, Rachlin, Schumsky, Mintz, Rosand, Ricci and I have studied many recordings of Heifetz, Neveu, Oistrakh, Kreisler, Rabin, Milstein to name only a well known small proportion of a much larger number. Many of these true virtuoso giants ascended the music and touched our hearts but few reached into the soul - perhaps Menuhin's recording with Furtwangler in 1947 achieved this feat. However, this girl is a wonder - she made herself, her heart and soul, available and made Beethoven available to us and to our hearts and souls through a deep appreciation of the score(s) and a willingness to abandon certain traditional conventions. This is the very essence of artistry. The fact is that each musician brings their own personality into their playing and therefore is unique but to bring the personality of the composer to the audience this is a rare experience. This incredible artist has a deep understanding gifted to a very few that enables her to really understand and she is gifted also with an extraordinary technique that enables her to unlock the personal expression of the musician together with the interpretation of the composer. It is a unique performance and I am truly grateful.
Five minutes in and I was absolutely HATING it! I was throwing rotten tomatoes at my Apple synched large screen tv. Then I poured myself a sneaky vodka, calmed down, and ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT!!! Fresh interpretation Ms Kopatchinskaja!!! Magnificent!!!
I think Patricia gave us an opportunity to enjoy Beethoven's marvelous work as if we were the contemporary audience with him. It's fresh like a new composition. Though whether it is based on historical record or Beethoven's intention seems controversial I appreciate her challenge. I'm very happy to have found her :)
I want to tip my hat to the administrators of this channel for including the audience ovation at the conclusion of the piece. When a performance thrills me as much as this one I feel so helpless for not being able to convey my appreciation to the artists involved. Being able to watch them get that reward from the lucky people in the concert hall provides some compensation. 😊
I am very happy to enjoy Patricia Kopatchinskaja playing the Beetvoven concerto in Munich tonight! For me, her new appoach of interpretation is so fascinating! Above all, I love her brilliant idea to arrange the cadenza of Beethovens piano concerto version of this opus as a violin duo.
Oh, is that from the Beethoven piano concerto? I didn't recognize it That reminds me, I think it'd be cool to stick Tchaikovsky piano concerto into the cadenza for his violin concerto
@@jeffersoncarpenter2 Beethoven has arranged his violin concerto as a piano concerto as well! And this version's cadenca is, as far as I know, the basis of this duet cadenza.
The more I listen to this, the more I love it. That cadenza is thoroughly original. She starts a duel with a chello who is quickly supported by two more chellos. Then a discussion with the timpani until a single violin challenges her, strong discussion until it slowly brings her back to reason and Beethoven's incredible melody. Brilliant!
She does her own ornaments. Very original performance. The participation of orchestra musicians in the cadenza is not without precedent. In the Gidon Kramer performance (with Harnoncourt) a piano suddenly breaks in unexpectedly. She also reminds me what Glenn Gould who said about playing the "Emperor". Why play it like 25 other performers?
@@Opoczynski Of course I saw it, we have the printed facsimile of the manuscript. On IMSLP there is an online version, unfortunately with poor contrast: imslp.simssa.ca/files/imglnks/usimg/5/52/IMSLP387210-PMLP01796-Beethoven_Violin_Concerto_autograph_-_movt1.PDF (the other movements are on the same place). For more explanations here: www.thespco.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Kopatchinskaja-Beethoven-interpretation.pdf. For a version directed by herself: content.thespco.org/music/concert-library/concert/patricia-kopatchinskaja-plays-beethoven (third of three tracks).
@@emilelaurent Thank you. This is interesting. So Kopatchinskaja is the only violinist I know of who did this research and applied it to her performance. She is not only a great performer but also a true scholar. Her "Detective's View …" article is most interesting. Bravo.
Extraordinaire violoniste. Comme le dit Philippe Herreweghe elle est décapante… Grâce à elle j’ai redécouvert le concerto de Beethoven que je pratique pourtant depuis 70 ans. Admirable cadence!!! Merci Patricia.
Patricia Kopatchinskaja is a bundle of creative energy with a beautiful sound and technical prowess to match. She has a vitality to her which I am sure affects those around her. She is a poet with words and music. Beethoven was a big proponent of change and progress in Music . I think he would have loved this performance. This concerto is a very tender piece and Patricia understands its emotional core. I have listened to many performances of this concerto and this one ranks as special, unique and up at the top.
Es war eine große Freude, Patricia Kopatchinskaja am 14. Jan 2015 mit diesem Werk in der Münchner Philharmonie zu hören, begleitet vom SWR-Symphonieorchester unter Sir Roger Norrington. Sie faszinierte mit einer lyrischen, im weiten Passagen geradezu engelszarten Interpretation, die es erlaubte, das Werk ganz neu in seinem Wesenskern zu erfahren. Dabei gab sie nicht die im Vordergrund stehende Virtuosin, sondern wandte sich oft den Instrumentengruppen des Orchesters zu, wodurch sie den Geist gemenisamen Musizierens beschwor. Die zu Beethovens Zeit übliche Freiheit des Solisten, Kadenzen und Übergänge selbst zu gestalten, nutzte die studierte Komponistin in legitimer Weise. Besonders beindruckte mich ihre Fassung der Kadenz des ersten Satzes, in die sie den Solocellisten, dann die ganze Cellogruppe, die Pauke und schließlich die Konzertmeisterin einbezog. Mit diesem kammermusikalischen Ansatz, der auf Skizzen für die Kadenz der Klavierkonzertfassung des Werks beruht, ist ihr m.E. etwas ganz Außergewöhnliches gelungen. Patricia Kopatchinskaja, die ich in diesem Konzert zum fünften Male live erlebte, kann sich meiner ganz großen Hochachtung gewiss sein!
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Ein denkwürdiges Konzert, kraftvoll und lustig gespielt, zugleich wunderbar einfühlsam und zart, fantastische Kadenz im ersten Satz, das Zusammenspiel von Patricia mit dem Orchester ist phänomenal, so dürfte es Beethoven gewollt haben! Toll ist auch, dass man die unendlich leisen Töne trotzdem noch ganz deutlich hört. Jetzt studiert sie das Schumann-Konzert ein, man darf gespannt sein …
Es gibt Leute, die dem Schumann-Konzert seinen Wert absprechen, doch ich bin sicher, dass Patricia den richtigen Ansatz finden wird, um diese Lügen zu strafen.
Hoffentlich. Das Konzert ist wunderschöne, verzweifelte, kranke, erschütternde Musik in der Schumann seine verzweifelte Suche nach einem Ausweg aus seiner sich immer mehr verschlimmernden Geisteskrankheit, deren er sich wohl bewusst war, in geradezu hypnotischer Weise in Musik ausgedrückt hat. Keine einzige der Interpretationen, welche ich bisher gehört habe, hat das geschafft, beginnend mit der total verunglückten Uraufführung durch Kulenkampff, der meinte, das Werk verbessern zu müssen und mit hinzugefügten, virtuos naiven Schnörkeln total zerstört hat bis zu den romantisierten, nichts sagenden Aufführungen späterer Zeit. Ob die so lebensfrohe Patrizia es schafft, in diesen Abgrund der Verzweiflung einzutauchen mag man bezweifeln, aber da sie über eine so große Palette von Emotionen und Fantasie verfügt, scheint es moglich. Liebe Patrizia, wenn Sie hier mitlesen und dieses Konzert einmal in Wien aufführen, werde ich sogar die gut fünfzig Kilometer, wenn nötig, barfuß im tiefsten Winter dorthin gehen :)
Listen to Schoenberg's Concerto if you want incredible [compositional] techniques and [lack of] harmony. The way this [DELETED] plays I would rather listen to the Schoenberg and then go straight on to Berg's Kammerkonzert without taking a break.
Ça c'est de la musique à l'état pure, sincère, créative, généreuse, simple, spontanée, originale, chaude, bouillonnante, douce, et à la Patricia Kopatchinskaya. Bravo, mille fois!!!!
In the last four decades, I have tried dozens of recordings of Op. 61 by various players. But never before has any players attracted so much attention from me as Kopatchinskaja has done, not even the Oistrach’s 1950 Moscow recording with Gauk. It opens up another dimension of Beethoven. Her interpretation as well as her stage style is the exact opposite of Oistrach: one is Stoic and self-centered, the other is passionate and interacting; one is pure joy, the other is delirious excitement. They will form the core of my collection of Op. 61; the rest are secondary. Her courage to challenge the tradition should be encouraged, since this is where our liberal value rests upon. Hat off to Kopatchinskaja!
@@eborok You can e pretty sure that Beethoven wrote evey single of these notes, Mme Kopatchinskaja has them from the original handwriting wher it is almost impossible - given Beethovens wild overwriting, deleting , redoing and so on. Even the cadenca is an adaption of Beethovens own cadenza for the piano version of the concert...
Ich bin ein LvB-Fan und habe seit meinem 16.Lebensjahr dieses Konzert am Klavier bzw. Violine zig Mal von verschiedensten Interpreten gehört und finde es immer wieder faszinierend, wie Kopatschinskaya die Kadenz mit sehr viel Gefühl und Virtuosität hinüber transformiert. Als ich Sie zum ersten Mal LvB Violinkonzert spielen hörte, habe ich das Gefühl gehabt, ich höre diese Konzert zum ersten Mal in meinem Leben. Ich bin von Ihr begeistert, auch wenn leichte Unsicherheitenimmer wieder passieren. Ich möchte Sie auch mal "Live" erleben. Das ist für mich ein Traum!
I haven't cried in a long time, much less to music, but that made me cry tears of joy right now. Well-deserved ovations in the end. And what a pleasure to watch as well.
Vor neun Jahren schrieb jemand, dass sie in Tränen dasitzt, über dieses unglaubliche Konzert, diesen Racker von einer Musikerin, Virtuos und ganz sie selbst - ungewöhnlich und tief emotional. Und Herreweghe und das Orchester spielen genauso ungewöhnlich mit! Oh könnte ich Teil einer solchen Musik sein! Jedenfalls sitze ich hier- und heule direkt weiter! Berührt, Beseelt! Oh Himmel, was für ein Geschenk, solche Musik!
OML that cadenza.. O.O The LingLing is strong in this one. She has fire. It's been a while since I've heard fire. Kudos on the natural brass too, my earholes are really happy!
Gänsehaut-Gefühl pur ... ich kenne dieses Konzert von anderen Interpreten und Orchestern gespielt ... aber keines mit soviel Emotion und Leidenschaft. Danke schön ... ... ...
Tengo 85 años de modo que decidí comenzar la mañana escuchando música ,me conecte con RUclips y me toco en suerte la maravillosa Patricia K , mejor comienzo imposible
She is definitely one to take risks and, in my opinion, they pay off in a big way. No fear.... absolutely brilliant interpretation. I love to hear musicians go all out and not play it safe. I absolutely loved this performance.
The search of the violin she plays gives deep emotions and comfort to my heart. Her talent has enough power to melt suffering and sorrow. She is a exquisite fiddler. Greetings from Japan. Sayonara❗
This is clearly a great German orchestra: fabulous to listen to. I hope the residents of Frankfurt fully appreciate the treasure they have in their midst.
@ "British Institute of Graphologist". Fully agree, but don't forget here also the contribution of that Flemish director (also M.D. Neurology and Bach-expert)
She changes the way I approach playing, seeking another equally valid way to execute passages. It's important we have players that explore this way, it's stunning.
An extraordinary performance. The way she communicates with both the audience and the orchestra reveals what this music is all about. Never before has a rendition of this piece made more sense to me. Just as Beethoven would have liked it, passionate and determined. Great camera work, too. Kudos to everyone involved in this production.
Unglaublich !! Was soll man da noch sagen - ich bin zu tiefst berührt. Mir laufen echt die Tränen. Endlich mal eine Geigerin, die Musik transportiert und nicht Noten - mit einer solchen Tiefen. Ausserdem spielt sie mit dem Orchester, und dreht dabei dem Publikum auch gerne mal den Rücken zu. Einfach grossartig. Beethoven lebt in seiner Musik weiter - vielen, vielen Dank Patricia !!
Die schönste Wiedergabe, die ich je gehört. DIE Leute haben die Botschaften der Musik wirklich inne, und sie drücken sie aus. Herrlich. @ Ralph Du bist süss. Dich stören nackte Füsse? hahaha, selten so gelacht. Schreib doch bitte der Patricia, du möchtest lieber Haihiils. Wirklich, Ralph, du rettest meinen Tag. Ist da göttliche Musik in göttlicher Wiedergabe, und dich beschäftigt durch Kleid bedeckte Nacktheit? ....:-) :-) Ach, wir Menschen, seufz.
Best performance. Wonderful duet of soloist and conductor with orchestra. An interesting, bold interpretation of Beethoven. The soloist gradually carries the whole orchestra along with her. And this is one of the best orchestras in Europe. An excellent conductor. See how the rather conservative audience perceives this performance. Great success!
I feel like this performance really evoked the spirit of Beethoven. I feel like I was stuck in a loop, almost frozen in time, reinvigorated, and then that cadenza! I'm really under the impression the cadenza was showing Patricia's humbleness, as though she and all the others participating were all one person, sharing the same body, as though they had all lived each others roles in this performance. This feeling of eternity ! I wish I could forget and re-enjoy this performance. To be there live would have for sure been death by astonishment for me! I'm not going to lie, I saw other videos of her and I kind of grinned at her performance style, for this artist we should look past it for once and listen. The more I watch of her, the more appreciation and respect for her I have. I totally dig the energy she's putting into her work. More so, the less I laugh.
A pleasure for our ears and soul...hacía tiempo que no veía una interpretación tan plena. Pura creatividad, color y fantasía. Un ejemplo en contraposición a las versiones de muchos "grandes" violinistas modernos en la actualidad. Bravísima Patricia...Beethoven en estado puro.
This performance is absolutely revolutionary exactly like Beethoven and his music, please don't criticise Patricia, she's not beatiful, she's also shocking the clasical music with her virtuoso performances . Bravo, bravissimi.
Classically beautiful maybe not but there is fire and passion in those eyes. I recommend her performance with Anoushka Shankar on youtube where she better shows those qualities.
""""Pls dont criticize"""" i don't mind this interpretation of her but the fact that all of her fans can't get even one drop of criticism is extremely idiotic.
Wow.!,Can you hear people happily shouted? I already shouted in my place too. Sure. the cadenza with the timpani (kettledrums) plays together with the soloist, and then, many things else that I have never heart before. Congratulation the orchestra, soloist with thanks.
Beethoven included timpani with soloist in his own transcription of this concerto for the piano, so that is clearly the inspiration for this really great cadenza.
ruclips.net/video/bq3Dyna8wgs/видео.html this is isabelle faust doing her version of the cadenza...rather similar? guess they are both inspired from the piano transcript. Hope you find this interesting.
Patricia K is just an absolutely superb genius violin virtuoso - superb performance ,, cant believe no standing ovation! She got one from me in front of my PC!! 😄
This sets a new standard of interpretation for the Beethoven concerto. There are some truly revealing moments in this performance! I like it very much.
Viva la vida!!!! Such a great pleasure, living the music with her during the performance. Thank you Patricia Kopatchinskaja and thank you hr-Sinfonieorchester ...iyi ki varsınız🧿🧿🧿
In this special interpretation by P. Kopatchinskaja, it is the player that makes Beethoven's melody resonate with majestic tenderness and power. Beethoven presents the violin as its outspoken majestic sound of clarity, ripe sonority, the lucid definition of sublime music to the spirit! Beethoven Violin Concerto is so deliciously beautiful added with the reinforcement of an extraordinary hr-Sinfonieorchester - Frankfurt Radio Symphony & conductor P. Herreweghe!
Exactly this! It doesn't need to be the same every time. It shouldn't be the same every time! But, then, neither should it be different for the sake of being different. This magnificent performance somehow pulls off the near-impossible.
Great violinist, conductor and orchestra give us totally different feeling with same music. It's one of magic in musics and this young violinist's vigorous vitality and great challenge look success for this Great music!
An intriguing performance. Kopatchinskaja brings extra drama to everything she plays. The cadenza is an adaptation of the cadenza Beethoven wrote for his piano arrangement of the violin concerto (as are the extra cadenzas she plays later on). The timpani is in the original but Kopatchinskaja wisely shares the extra notes with other instruments of the orchestra, which makes more sense to me than Gidon Kramer's offstage piano which comes out of nowhere. Wolfgang Schneiderhan performs it without any additional help, as close to the original as possible for a violin. Very impressive but it doesn't suit the violin the way it does the piano. Kopatchinskaja get it right, I think, if she's going to go with the piano cadenza.
This is a truly unique and original performance. Could we be hearing something closer to the original spirit of this concerto than anything we've heard before ? I'll need to listen a few more times to be 100% convinced but it sure is a real adventure and for that we should all be well excited.
@@franzfigueracello As another Baroque performer, I would say that Dmitry Sinkovsky does a better job of achieving historical accuracy - rather than just doing random things because they are supposedly "creative".
@@discereaude1982 well, music is not a competition, is all about creativity, furthermore, spirit of of baroque music is freedom to the performer to make alive the music written..
@@franzfigueracello I agree - creativity and innovation are very important to Baroque music (and Beethoven was by no means a Baroque composer), but this statement is a generalization and it is used too liberally. For example, playing the music of Versailles (Lully, Couperin, etc.) in an improvisatory style would genuinely be against the wishes of those composers. Lully and Couperin wanted performers to follow their styles and markings word-for-word, as was the refined style of the French (until Rameau). Different historical contexts must be considered.
The most amazing interpretation of this concerto that I ever heard! Finaly something fresh and for shure closer to the original intention of Beethoven. Patricia Kopatchinskaja, brillant and original as usual and I love it! Everytime a fresh wind thru the concert hall, everytime she's overwhelming us with her presence!
Intriguing, brave girl to challenge accepted practice, I love the 1st mov. cadenza and the freedom in her playing. It may sound different in the hall, but on the recording her sotto voce playing in the slow movement sounds lifeless, drained of blood so to speak. On the whole, though, a big bravo!
So brilliant. This tops both excellent recordings of Isabella Faust and even Kopatchinskaja's own studio recording. As with most HIP performances (even though this orchestra doesn't play on old instruments) this Beethoven is so much more exciting than a traditional (romantic) interpretation: leaner, meaner, more rhythmic and Kopatchinskaja fits in just perfect. She is so varied: delicate and sweet, but also really ugly and agressive when needed. Love it!
I think one of the things that separates the Classical world from music that is listened to by the masses is the level of conformity, Especially when there is a revered composer involved. But I feel as though we owe it not only to the music, but to ourselves to be more involved in ways that go beyond the score. I feel as though we are paying tribute to a composer whenever we play their piece. But I also believe that we must show who we are as well while doing so. And one thing that I really appreciate about Kopatchinskaja is that she does exactly that.
Such enthusiasm, and so different. I really enjoyed this interpretation and the performance, wonderful. The whole of the orchestra also shared the excitement of the occasion, well done everyone.
She has a very high-risk way of doing things, and it doesn't always come off. This works brilliantly, however. The accuracy of her intonation is stunning, the variant phrases are beguiling, and her latest thoughts on the cadenza material from Beethoven's piano version of the concerto work surprisingly well. Seriously good.
her intonation accuracy is stunning?? seriously? She is off key in every other phrase. It beats me why she is even considered a professional violinist .
@@jean-pierremurrli3072 Well why do you ask me?? am not a professional violinist...compare her to hundreds of fantastic concert violinists, or stay ignorant. Ive heard students perform better than her
The greatest living violinist. Impassioned and controlled. I wish someone would publish on RUclips her interpretation of the full Mendelsohn Violin Concerto. It is wonderful and amazing that, in my humble opinion, most of the finest young violinists are women.
Formidable. Gracias por esta versión. Es un enorme regalo. Es una nueva forma de entender este concierto... que por otro lado es el CONCIERTO de violín por excelencia. He aprendido mucho.
Why not!... Every other form of music has artists who put a personal spin on other's work. Variety and interpretation are the engine of human creativity and forward development.
She plays almost the entire concerto "sul tasto". But then she has an astonishing sul tasto that produces an incredible sound. It is an original performance, and in some interviews she has said that there are enough very good more traditional performances, that she should not be expected to produce yet another copy of that. She's a true artist.
It's the most rare version I have ever heard: different sounds, different tempo and a very special soloist! Really amazing!
Thank you for living Patricia Kopatchinskaja. You jumped, you danced, you cried, you sang, you laughed and you loved - that is what music and life calls us to do and you did this for us and not for you. To give your heart and touch the hearts and souls of others is true artistry and true humanity.
Many knowledgeable listeners and musicians will have found this performance challenging. I know this piece very well and have played this piece many times (not so well!) and have had the privilege to see many live performances played by among others Perleman, Zukerman, Menuhin, Hahn, Vengerov, Mutter, Repin, Rachlin, Schumsky, Mintz, Rosand, Ricci and I have studied many recordings of Heifetz, Neveu, Oistrakh, Kreisler, Rabin, Milstein to name only a well known small proportion of a much larger number.
Many of these true virtuoso giants ascended the music and touched our hearts but few reached into the soul - perhaps Menuhin's recording with Furtwangler in 1947 achieved this feat. However, this girl is a wonder - she made herself, her heart and soul, available and made Beethoven available to us and to our hearts and souls through a deep appreciation of the score(s) and a willingness to abandon certain traditional conventions. This is the very essence of artistry. The fact is that each musician brings their own personality into their playing and therefore is unique but to bring the personality of the composer to the audience this is a rare experience.
This incredible artist has a deep understanding gifted to a very few that enables her to really understand and she is gifted also with an extraordinary technique that enables her to unlock the personal expression of the musician together with the interpretation of the composer. It is a unique performance and I am truly grateful.
The Frankfurt is one of the handful of really great orchestras in the world.
Five minutes in and I was absolutely HATING it! I was throwing rotten tomatoes at my Apple synched large screen tv. Then I poured myself a sneaky vodka, calmed down, and ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT!!! Fresh interpretation Ms Kopatchinskaja!!! Magnificent!!!
Same. You have the patience (and a liitle booze) to grow! She makes us think and that is always a good thing!
I think Patricia gave us an opportunity to enjoy Beethoven's marvelous work as if we were the contemporary audience with him. It's fresh like a new composition. Though whether it is based on historical record or Beethoven's intention seems controversial I appreciate her challenge. I'm very happy to have found her :)
Well said!
In that case, no wonder it was booed.
You feel and describe it very well! 💕
Completely agree with what you say, I have never heard such a performance before
Lovely description and entirely true. 🙂
The first movement cadenza is quite possibly my favourite of all time - this is such a great performance!
That's how all cadenzas should be! Just got tardy over time.
I want to tip my hat to the administrators of this channel for including the audience ovation at the conclusion of the piece. When a performance thrills me as much as this one I feel so helpless for not being able to convey my appreciation to the artists involved. Being able to watch them get that reward from the lucky people in the concert hall provides some compensation. 😊
I am very happy to enjoy Patricia Kopatchinskaja playing the Beetvoven concerto in Munich tonight! For me, her new appoach of interpretation is so fascinating! Above all, I love her brilliant idea to arrange the cadenza of Beethovens piano concerto version of this opus as a violin duo.
Yes!!
And here I had the mistaken notion that Germans were much more savvy about art and music than most... Oyvey.
Oh, is that from the Beethoven piano concerto? I didn't recognize it
That reminds me, I think it'd be cool to stick Tchaikovsky piano concerto into the cadenza for his violin concerto
@@jeffersoncarpenter2 Beethoven has arranged his violin concerto as a piano concerto as well! And this version's cadenca is, as far as I know, the basis of this duet cadenza.
@@LorenzKerscher Ah, interesting!
The more I listen to this, the more I love it.
That cadenza is thoroughly original. She starts a duel with a chello who is quickly supported by two more chellos. Then a discussion with the timpani until a single violin challenges her, strong discussion until it slowly brings her back to reason and Beethoven's incredible melody.
Brilliant!
The cadenzas are based on Beethoven's cadenzas for Op. 61a
She is beautifully mad. In another place. I think her folk music background tempers the classical May God bless you Patricia 🙏🙏
"Beautifully mad." Perfect.
She does her own ornaments. Very original performance. The participation of orchestra musicians in the cadenza is not without precedent. In the Gidon Kramer performance (with Harnoncourt) a piano suddenly breaks in unexpectedly. She also reminds me what Glenn Gould who said about playing the "Emperor". Why play it like 25 other performers?
The "ornaments" are all variants from Beethovens own handwritten manuscript.
@@emilelaurent Did you actually see it? Can you post it?
@@Opoczynski Of course I saw it, we have the printed facsimile of the manuscript. On IMSLP there is an online version, unfortunately with poor contrast: imslp.simssa.ca/files/imglnks/usimg/5/52/IMSLP387210-PMLP01796-Beethoven_Violin_Concerto_autograph_-_movt1.PDF (the other movements are on the same place). For more explanations here: www.thespco.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Kopatchinskaja-Beethoven-interpretation.pdf. For a version directed by herself: content.thespco.org/music/concert-library/concert/patricia-kopatchinskaja-plays-beethoven (third of three tracks).
@@emilelaurent Thank you. This is interesting. So Kopatchinskaja is the only violinist I know of who did this research and applied it to her performance. She is not only a great performer but also a true scholar. Her "Detective's View …" article is most interesting. Bravo.
Whoever invented posting comments like these is a genius!
Extraordinaire violoniste. Comme le dit Philippe Herreweghe elle est décapante…
Grâce à elle j’ai redécouvert le concerto de Beethoven que je pratique pourtant depuis 70 ans. Admirable cadence!!!
Merci Patricia.
Quelle belle découverte.
Patricia Kopatchinskaja is a bundle of creative energy with a beautiful sound and technical prowess to match. She has a vitality to her which I am sure affects those around her. She is a poet with words and music. Beethoven was a big proponent of change and progress in Music . I think he would have loved this performance. This concerto is a very tender piece and Patricia understands its emotional core. I have listened to many performances of this concerto and this one ranks as special, unique and up at the top.
Unsagbar, unglaublich, als ob man dieses Violinkonzert zum ersten Mal gehört hätte!
Es war eine große Freude, Patricia Kopatchinskaja am 14. Jan 2015 mit diesem Werk in der Münchner Philharmonie zu hören, begleitet vom SWR-Symphonieorchester unter Sir Roger Norrington. Sie faszinierte mit einer lyrischen, im weiten Passagen geradezu engelszarten Interpretation, die es erlaubte, das Werk ganz neu in seinem Wesenskern zu erfahren. Dabei gab sie nicht die im Vordergrund stehende Virtuosin, sondern wandte sich oft den Instrumentengruppen des Orchesters zu, wodurch sie den Geist gemenisamen Musizierens beschwor.
Die zu Beethovens Zeit übliche Freiheit des Solisten, Kadenzen und Übergänge selbst zu gestalten, nutzte die studierte Komponistin in legitimer Weise. Besonders beindruckte mich ihre Fassung der Kadenz des ersten Satzes, in die sie den Solocellisten, dann die ganze Cellogruppe, die Pauke und schließlich die Konzertmeisterin einbezog. Mit diesem kammermusikalischen Ansatz, der auf Skizzen für die Kadenz der Klavierkonzertfassung des Werks beruht, ist ihr m.E. etwas ganz Außergewöhnliches gelungen.
Patricia Kopatchinskaja, die ich in diesem Konzert zum fünften Male live erlebte, kann sich meiner ganz großen Hochachtung gewiss sein!
Ein denkwürdiges Konzert, kraftvoll und lustig gespielt, zugleich wunderbar einfühlsam und zart, fantastische Kadenz im ersten Satz, das Zusammenspiel von Patricia mit dem Orchester ist phänomenal, so dürfte es Beethoven gewollt haben! Toll ist auch, dass man die unendlich leisen Töne trotzdem noch ganz deutlich hört. Jetzt studiert sie das Schumann-Konzert ein, man darf gespannt sein …
Es gibt Leute, die dem Schumann-Konzert seinen Wert absprechen, doch ich bin sicher, dass Patricia den richtigen Ansatz finden wird, um diese Lügen zu strafen.
Hoffentlich. Das Konzert ist wunderschöne, verzweifelte, kranke, erschütternde Musik in der Schumann seine verzweifelte Suche nach einem Ausweg aus seiner sich immer mehr verschlimmernden Geisteskrankheit, deren er sich wohl bewusst war, in geradezu hypnotischer Weise in Musik ausgedrückt hat.
Keine einzige der Interpretationen, welche ich bisher gehört habe, hat das geschafft, beginnend mit der total verunglückten Uraufführung durch Kulenkampff, der meinte, das Werk verbessern zu müssen und mit hinzugefügten, virtuos naiven Schnörkeln total zerstört hat bis zu den romantisierten, nichts sagenden Aufführungen späterer Zeit.
Ob die so lebensfrohe Patrizia es schafft, in diesen Abgrund der Verzweiflung einzutauchen mag man bezweifeln, aber da sie über eine so große Palette von Emotionen und Fantasie verfügt, scheint es moglich.
Liebe Patrizia, wenn Sie hier mitlesen und dieses Konzert einmal in Wien aufführen, werde ich sogar die gut fünfzig Kilometer, wenn nötig, barfuß im tiefsten Winter dorthin gehen :)
Schumann???
oh my God... the candenzaaaaa is mind-blowingly awesome!!! incredible techniques and harmony
Listen to Schoenberg's Concerto if you want incredible [compositional] techniques and [lack of] harmony. The way this [DELETED] plays I would rather listen to the Schoenberg and then go straight on to Berg's Kammerkonzert without taking a break.
@@tonyvillamotte4339 chill Monteverdi
Ça c'est de la musique à l'état pure, sincère, créative, généreuse, simple, spontanée, originale, chaude, bouillonnante, douce, et à la Patricia Kopatchinskaya. Bravo, mille fois!!!!
In the last four decades, I have tried dozens of recordings of Op. 61 by various players. But never before has any players attracted so much attention from me as Kopatchinskaja has done, not even the Oistrach’s 1950 Moscow recording with Gauk. It opens up another dimension of Beethoven. Her interpretation as well as her stage style is the exact opposite of Oistrach: one is Stoic and self-centered, the other is passionate and interacting; one is pure joy, the other is delirious excitement. They will form the core of my collection of Op. 61; the rest are secondary. Her courage to challenge the tradition should be encouraged, since this is where our liberal value rests upon. Hat off to Kopatchinskaja!
Ershen Lin maxim vengerov did
New 'dimension" and a lot of notes Beethoven did not write. But I guess it no longer matters,,,,
@@eborok You can e pretty sure that Beethoven wrote evey single of these notes, Mme Kopatchinskaja has them from the original handwriting wher it is almost impossible - given Beethovens wild overwriting, deleting , redoing and so on.
Even the cadenca is an adaption of Beethovens own cadenza for the piano version of the concert...
確かに、ユニークで、オリジナルな、演奏ですね。モダーン・ヴァイオリンでは、出来ませんね。
I agree totally. She is a marvel.
Ich bin ein LvB-Fan und habe seit meinem 16.Lebensjahr dieses Konzert am Klavier bzw. Violine zig Mal von verschiedensten Interpreten gehört und finde es immer wieder faszinierend, wie Kopatschinskaya die Kadenz mit sehr viel Gefühl und Virtuosität hinüber transformiert. Als ich Sie zum ersten Mal LvB Violinkonzert spielen hörte, habe ich das Gefühl gehabt, ich höre diese Konzert zum ersten Mal in meinem Leben.
Ich bin von Ihr begeistert, auch wenn leichte Unsicherheitenimmer wieder passieren.
Ich möchte Sie auch mal "Live" erleben. Das ist für mich ein Traum!
Wo willst du denn Unsicherheiten hören? Spielst du Geige / resp. Violine?
I haven't cried in a long time, much less to music, but that made me cry tears of joy right now. Well-deserved ovations in the end. And what a pleasure to watch as well.
What an amazing cadenza. Never heard something like this. It is a revolution. Another diferent Beethoven´s concerto .
Cadenzas all by Beethoven.
Schneiderhan used to play those cadenzas, even before his record with Jochum in 1962.
If it's another concerto then it's not by Beethoven because Beethoven is dead, dunce.
bravo, amazing artistic performance, the orchestra and maestro amazing too!
Vor neun Jahren schrieb jemand, dass sie in Tränen dasitzt, über dieses unglaubliche Konzert, diesen Racker von einer Musikerin, Virtuos und ganz sie selbst - ungewöhnlich und tief emotional. Und Herreweghe und das Orchester spielen genauso ungewöhnlich mit! Oh könnte ich Teil einer solchen Musik sein!
Jedenfalls sitze ich hier- und heule direkt weiter! Berührt, Beseelt! Oh Himmel, was für ein Geschenk, solche Musik!
OML that cadenza.. O.O The LingLing is strong in this one. She has fire. It's been a while since I've heard fire. Kudos on the natural brass too, my earholes are really happy!
Gänsehaut-Gefühl pur ...
ich kenne dieses Konzert von anderen Interpreten und Orchestern gespielt ...
aber keines mit soviel Emotion und Leidenschaft.
Danke schön ... ... ...
Tengo 85 años de modo que decidí comenzar la mañana escuchando música ,me conecte con RUclips y me toco en suerte la maravillosa Patricia K , mejor comienzo imposible
She is definitely one to take risks and, in my opinion, they pay off in a big way. No fear.... absolutely brilliant interpretation. I love to hear musicians go all out and not play it safe. I absolutely loved this performance.
The search of the violin she plays gives deep emotions and comfort to my heart. Her talent has enough power to melt suffering and sorrow. She is a exquisite fiddler. Greetings from Japan. Sayonara❗
revolutionäre Aufnahme! brillant, mutig, mutig, danke!!!!!!!!!
This is clearly a great German orchestra: fabulous to listen to. I hope the residents of Frankfurt fully appreciate the treasure they have in their midst.
@ "British Institute of Graphologist".
Fully agree, but don't forget here also
the contribution of that Flemish director (also M.D. Neurology and Bach-expert)
She changes the way I approach playing, seeking another equally valid way to execute passages. It's important we have players that explore this way, it's stunning.
What a fantastic cadenza. Love her interpretation
An extraordinary performance. The way she communicates with both the audience and the orchestra reveals what this music is all about. Never before has a rendition of this piece made more sense to me. Just as Beethoven would have liked it, passionate and determined. Great camera work, too. Kudos to everyone involved in this production.
Madame, Kopatchinskaja vous êtes un véritable don du ciel.
Но не для Великого БЕТХОВЕНА.
I must say the more I listen to her the more I fall in love with her style
I knew love could be blind, not deaf
You must be deeply in love with your right hand (unless you're left handed; then vice-versa).
@@tonyvillamotte4339 certainly she doesn't inspire the use of any hand
Lovely...lovely. The best cadenza (first mvt) I've ever heard for this concerto.
Amazing! I love so many things about this concert. Including the smelling of the flowers at the end. That is Beethoven spirit
Unglaublich !! Was soll man da noch sagen - ich bin zu tiefst berührt. Mir laufen echt die Tränen. Endlich mal eine Geigerin, die Musik transportiert und nicht Noten - mit einer solchen Tiefen. Ausserdem spielt sie mit dem Orchester, und dreht dabei dem Publikum auch gerne mal den Rücken zu. Einfach grossartig. Beethoven lebt in seiner Musik weiter - vielen, vielen Dank Patricia !!
JA!!!! ..... heul ....
Die schönste Wiedergabe, die ich je gehört. DIE Leute haben die Botschaften der Musik wirklich inne, und sie drücken sie aus. Herrlich.
@ Ralph
Du bist süss. Dich stören nackte Füsse? hahaha, selten so gelacht. Schreib doch bitte der Patricia, du möchtest lieber Haihiils. Wirklich, Ralph, du rettest meinen Tag.
Ist da göttliche Musik in göttlicher Wiedergabe, und dich beschäftigt durch Kleid bedeckte Nacktheit? ....:-) :-)
Ach, wir Menschen, seufz.
What a fantastic performance! 1st movement's cadenza was a pleasant surprise!
Il piacere di fare musica e l'immenso piacere di ascoltarla, BRAVA Patricia e BRAVA l'orchestra!!
Quite unexpected and still incredibly amazing. Wonderful artists.
Best performance. Wonderful duet of soloist and conductor with orchestra. An interesting, bold interpretation of Beethoven. The soloist gradually carries the whole orchestra along with her. And this is one of the best orchestras in Europe. An excellent conductor. See how the rather conservative audience perceives this performance. Great success!
Bravo et un Grand Merci, c'est la énième fois que je réécoute cette interprétation !
I feel like this performance really evoked the spirit of Beethoven. I feel like I was stuck in a loop, almost frozen in time, reinvigorated, and then that cadenza! I'm really under the impression the cadenza was showing Patricia's humbleness, as though she and all the others participating were all one person, sharing the same body, as though they had all lived each others roles in this performance. This feeling of eternity ! I wish I could forget and re-enjoy this performance. To be there live would have for sure been death by astonishment for me! I'm not going to lie, I saw other videos of her and I kind of grinned at her performance style, for this artist we should look past it for once and listen. The more I watch of her, the more appreciation and respect for her I have. I totally dig the energy she's putting into her work. More so, the less I laugh.
Amazing performance...bravo Patricia
bravissima tutti, well done to the orchestral members, Patricia and mastro Philippe, and everyone who was involved in this video ❤
A pleasure for our ears and soul...hacía tiempo que no veía una interpretación tan plena. Pura creatividad, color y fantasía. Un ejemplo en contraposición a las versiones de muchos "grandes" violinistas modernos en la actualidad. Bravísima Patricia...Beethoven en estado puro.
This performance is absolutely revolutionary exactly like Beethoven and his music, please don't criticise Patricia, she's not beatiful, she's also shocking the clasical music with her virtuoso performances . Bravo, bravissimi.
Classically beautiful maybe not but there is fire and passion in those eyes. I recommend her performance with Anoushka Shankar on youtube where she better shows those qualities.
Totally agree with you, she is genious
""""Pls dont criticize"""" i don't mind this interpretation of her but the fact that all of her fans can't get even one drop of criticism is extremely idiotic.
I think you meant "not ONLY beautiful,"
Not beautiful? No, she's gorgeous, inside and out, a delicious genius.
Unique artist. LOVE her. The CADENZA..... mindblowing
Wow.!,Can you hear people happily shouted? I already shouted in my place too. Sure. the cadenza with the timpani (kettledrums) plays together with the soloist, and then, many things else that I have never heart before. Congratulation the orchestra, soloist with thanks.
Beethoven included timpani with soloist in his own transcription of this concerto for the piano, so that is clearly the inspiration for this really great cadenza.
ruclips.net/video/bq3Dyna8wgs/видео.html this is isabelle faust doing her version of the cadenza...rather similar? guess they are both inspired from the piano transcript. Hope you find this interesting.
no internet dinosours game I believe Schnittke’s cadenza is the one that they are both based on. Gidon Kremer plays it in his recording.
que de l'innovation !!!!!!!dans cette oeuvre du répertoire .....MAGISTRAL !!! GENIAL !!!! MERCI MERCI ET ENCORE on en veut encore et encore.....
Patricia K is just an absolutely superb genius violin virtuoso - superb performance ,, cant believe no standing ovation! She got one from me in front of my PC!! 😄
Europeans don't do standing ovations like the Americans at every concert.
@@papagen00 I'm not american
This sets a new standard of interpretation for the Beethoven concerto. There are some truly revealing moments in this performance! I like it very much.
Viva la vida!!!! Such a great pleasure, living the music with her during the performance. Thank you Patricia Kopatchinskaja and thank you hr-Sinfonieorchester ...iyi ki varsınız🧿🧿🧿
Ciò è impressionante, il livello artistico tecnico sono un tutt'uno.
Mai sentito in vita mia una interpretazione così MERAVIGLIOSA E STIMOLANTE.
Amazing!👍👍👍
Interprétation époustouflante !
... et quelle flûtiste.
In this special interpretation by P. Kopatchinskaja, it is the player that makes Beethoven's melody resonate with majestic tenderness and power. Beethoven presents the violin as its outspoken majestic sound of clarity, ripe sonority, the lucid definition of sublime music to the spirit!
Beethoven Violin Concerto is so deliciously beautiful added with the reinforcement of an extraordinary hr-Sinfonieorchester - Frankfurt Radio Symphony & conductor P. Herreweghe!
many bravos! Her playing is so magic, yet always in the orchestra, taking the orchestra with her. What a nice idea the cadenza
I love it. How fun it would be to go to concerts not entirely knowing what to expect.
Exactly this! It doesn't need to be the same every time. It shouldn't be the same every time! But, then, neither should it be different for the sake of being different. This magnificent performance somehow pulls off the near-impossible.
Extraordinary! Strange but so beautiful and interesting!
Great violinist, conductor and orchestra give us totally different feeling with same music. It's one of magic in musics and this young violinist's vigorous vitality and great challenge look success for this Great music!
World best violin composer excellent best music great symphony orchestra
An intriguing performance. Kopatchinskaja brings extra drama to everything she plays. The cadenza is an adaptation of the cadenza Beethoven wrote for his piano arrangement of the violin concerto (as are the extra cadenzas she plays later on). The timpani is in the original but Kopatchinskaja wisely shares the extra notes with other instruments of the orchestra, which makes more sense to me than Gidon Kramer's offstage piano which comes out of nowhere. Wolfgang Schneiderhan performs it without any additional help, as close to the original as possible for a violin. Very impressive but it doesn't suit the violin the way it does the piano. Kopatchinskaja get it right, I think, if she's going to go with the piano cadenza.
Very special and impressive cadenza.
When I saw the soloist bring a score, I thought this will be different! And it is....stupendously different!
World best music symphony my favorite music symphony orchestra world best Beethoven
This is a truly unique and original performance. Could we be hearing something closer to the original spirit of this concerto than anything we've heard before ? I'll need to listen a few more times to be 100% convinced but it sure is a real adventure and for that we should all be well excited.
As a barroque performer i would say yes..
I have a suspicion that Beethoven might have preferred this interpretation to most modern performances... Just because of all the passion
@@franzfigueracello As another Baroque performer, I would say that Dmitry Sinkovsky does a better job of achieving historical accuracy - rather than just doing random things because they are supposedly "creative".
@@discereaude1982 well, music is not a competition, is all about creativity, furthermore, spirit of of baroque music is freedom to the performer to make alive the music written..
@@franzfigueracello I agree - creativity and innovation are very important to Baroque music (and Beethoven was by no means a Baroque composer), but this statement is a generalization and it is used too liberally. For example, playing the music of Versailles (Lully, Couperin, etc.) in an improvisatory style would genuinely be against the wishes of those composers. Lully and Couperin wanted performers to follow their styles and markings word-for-word, as was the refined style of the French (until Rameau). Different historical contexts must be considered.
The most amazing interpretation of this concerto that I ever heard! Finaly something fresh and for shure closer to the original intention of Beethoven.
Patricia Kopatchinskaja, brillant and original as usual and I love it! Everytime a fresh wind thru the concert hall, everytime she's overwhelming us with her presence!
I knew Beethoven growing up, and I can tell you he would have loved this!
Intriguing, brave girl to challenge accepted practice, I love the 1st mov. cadenza and the freedom in her playing. It may sound different in the hall, but on the recording her sotto voce playing in the slow movement sounds lifeless, drained of blood so to speak. On the whole, though, a big bravo!
Amazing music from beethoven and amazing interpretation ❤️❤️❤️
This is enjoyment of art at its finest level....words can not tell....thank you
Interesting! Loved it! Never seen a performance like this!!!!!! LOOOVE IT!!!!!!!!
Es gibt keine andere Violinistin, die dieses Stück so speziell schön spielt. Ich kriege Gänsehaut.
In this concert Beethoven is opening your eyes.
So brilliant. This tops both excellent recordings of Isabella Faust and even Kopatchinskaja's own studio recording. As with most HIP performances (even though this orchestra doesn't play on old instruments) this Beethoven is so much more exciting than a traditional (romantic) interpretation: leaner, meaner, more rhythmic and Kopatchinskaja fits in just perfect. She is so varied: delicate and sweet, but also really ugly and agressive when needed. Love it!
An amazing performance. It is not your standard version but it works. What stand out is here pure joy in making music.
cadenza is special！
I think one of the things that separates the Classical world from music that is listened to by the masses is the level of conformity, Especially when there is a revered composer involved. But I feel as though we owe it not only to the music, but to ourselves to be more involved in ways that go beyond the score. I feel as though we are paying tribute to a composer whenever we play their piece. But I also believe that we must show who we are as well while doing so. And one thing that I really appreciate about Kopatchinskaja is that she does exactly that.
Such enthusiasm, and so different. I really enjoyed this interpretation and the performance, wonderful. The whole of the orchestra also shared the excitement of the occasion, well done everyone.
It's so different that it isn't Beethoven.
Definitely don't agree with this. It's not the hidebound Beethoven tradition we're used to, for sure.@@tonyvillamotte4339
She has a very high-risk way of doing things, and it doesn't always come off. This works brilliantly, however. The accuracy of her intonation is stunning, the variant phrases are beguiling, and her latest thoughts on the cadenza material from Beethoven's piano version of the concerto work surprisingly well. Seriously good.
Lovely comment!! Love musicians who take risks
her intonation accuracy is stunning?? seriously? She is off key in every other phrase. It beats me why she is even considered a professional violinist .
I’ve been learning for only 3 years and even I can tell she is way off the tune in almost every second note.
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@@jean-pierremurrli3072 Well why do you ask me?? am not a professional violinist...compare her to hundreds of fantastic concert violinists, or stay ignorant. Ive heard students perform better than her
Un solo termine mi viene in mente per commentare questo concerto di Beethoven: SUBLIME ìììììì
Какое озорство в хорошем смысле этого слова. Браво, Патрисия!
The greatest living violinist. Impassioned and controlled.
I wish someone would publish on RUclips her interpretation of the full Mendelsohn Violin Concerto.
It is wonderful and amazing that, in my humble opinion, most of the finest young violinists are women.
Here is the Mendelssohn, comments in German, there is also a French version: facebook.com/110239669671/videos/10154327525044672
@@emilelaurent Thank you so much.
Caramba!!!, Cuánta energía tiene Patricia!!!, woow, Electrizante!!
Pretty addicting to watch and of course listen to Patricia living this music.
Omg. Thank you, universe, for Patricia Kopatchinskaja!!!
very interesting indeed!.Bloody special cadenza!fantastic
Kopatchinskaja concerto, arranged by Beethoven
She is also famous for her concerto as arranged by Ravel and Tchaikovsky
Love this comment
There is no concerto by Ravel :)
bestial, sublime, sumamente delicada a veces y enérgica cuando a ludwig le habría gustado.
Salud y Amor
Lovin' me some 'thoven. Amazing performance by Patricia, a virtuoso.
Mind relaxed symphony orchestra violin music heart touching mind relaxed world great Beethoven
Watching this while high is great
Omg can't believe I'm not alone
You're not alone. This woman is fantastic!
Also surprised I'm not the only one. Thank god, cause what a strange place to find myself.
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One more here
Formidable. Gracias por esta versión. Es un enorme regalo. Es una nueva forma de entender este concierto... que por otro lado es el CONCIERTO de violín por excelencia.
He aprendido mucho.
I've just heard her incredibly quirky version of Tchaikovsky. She's undoubtedly the most original violinist I've ever heard.
It couldn't be better played. This is perfection
Why not!... Every other form of music has artists who put a personal spin on other's work. Variety and interpretation are the engine of human creativity and forward development.