I wish this info was available when i was young . I became a Fire Control Missile tech . just by luck and scoring high on entrance tests . The recruiter chose it for me . I had no clue what it involved until i got into school. We had the best of everything in my opinion. I still miss it.
I joined Uncle Sams Confused Group (USCG) because I wanted to learn how to drive surf boats. They told me in boot camp that wasn't going to happen so I chose sonar which turned out to be the better choice. Turned out I had a great curiosity for this and still do to this day over 50 years later trying to learn things not taught to me in sonar school.
I was an FC while in the Navy. Radar operator/ technician. Got out and became a tech rep for the Navy on the radar systems until I landed a job on the B-2 Bomber Flight Test Program. After that ended, I moved to a radar position at NASA Dryden. Retired in 2004.
I was in in the 60's and 70's, I was a self-trained ET, I made 3rd class off the mess decks and 2nd in 18 months from my enlistment date. I passed the first-class test but would have had to re-enlist, to put the rate on. I saw more than 50 countries, in 4 years that with 2 tours in Vietnam. I got out because I was never home. The electronics I learned served me well in industry, as well as now as a radio amateur.
Yeah et rate must have changed a lot. I was offered 18month shore duty advance in rate an i think 15k to reup... sub duty meant always at sea on the uss neverport and with no guarentee of how long the shore duty would last, i sold back two months vacation pay plus left two months early. Couple guys took it and stayed till retirement.
BM is the oldest rate. The true sailors, shit work but so fkn rewarding. As a BM1 all the sailors I’ve trained and undesignated I’ve led. We are the true circulatory system of the fleet. Pride till death.
When I was in the Canoe Club, I was an MM1. I told people I loved my job, just didn't like the company I worked for.... I got out, after 8 yrs. I went to the Coast Guard and got my 3rd engineers license to sail on Merchant vessels. Long story short here... After awhile I started sailing as Chief Electrician, as they didn't stand watch, and (mostly) made more $ than engineers (who stood 4 on 8 off, 7 days a week). The other part about being the Electrician on a ship, was that everyone was afraid of the electricity. If you knew what you were doing (and doing it right!) you basically ran the ship. The best advise I would give anyone in the Navy is to take any and all extra schooling the Navy offers! Fire fighting, First aid, Damage Control, Leadership training, professional training in your rating (and others, if you can).
I was an FC in the Navy. On my first ship underway was hell for FCs. We did our regular maintenance and repair work during "normal" ship hours. Then we were tasked to do Boatswain's type work like scraping and painting the ship, black tarring the deck, and even sewing macrame for the quarterdeck. Then there were the three (and sometimes two) sections watch rotation.
A lot of it depends on a bunch of different factors, like nec, division, manning, and what phase your ship is in. Like t-hawk or mk 160 techs, you're not gonna be doing shit, but CIWS? Get ready to troubleshoot. Watches just depend on manning and how good people are on their quals. And if you're ship is in an extended inport period, than yeah you're gonna be preservating, but so is everyone else
I was Aegis (before FCA was a thing) during my time. Fortunately, my WC was pretty stacked, and most of us went to ATRC either together or within a year of each other, so we stayed stacked during my time. It made our watch rotation really good, not to mention that we had all 6 duty sections covered. However, SPY is a maintenance nightmare because it’s so big (bigger on a cruiser than a destroyer), so there is constant checks, and always something needing repair, some of which can take days to complete. But, we made pallets in our radar rooms and made them very livable, so we had our own comforts for our down time without fighting for TV in berthing.
Clarification: as a former HT we didn’t clean the mess. We had a ‘system’ where we used DC plugs/reducer fittings and fire main pressure to clear blockages. After the blockage is cleared, the owner of the space cleans the head. Same for any hot work: if we weld, braze, or solder any piping the owner of the space cleans, paints, or whatever. We cleaned up our ONLY own shop, and we were responsible for our gear.
I was a Deck Seamen not even rated as a BM, on the USS Constellation in the early 90's. We stood 8 hours of watch, and did 8 hours of work plus UNREPs 8,12, 16, How ever long and QGs, So my day may have started at 0345 up for a 4-8 bridge watch (at the helm). Do 8 hour of work for the day ( chip and painting),get off work grab dinner maybe or start setting up for a UnRep from 1800 to 2400. Off just in time to go back on watch on the helm for 4 more hours. Because it is a new day. God I miss them days. There is no sleep at sea.
When I was on a Destroyer off the coast of Vietnam, we worked 6 hrs on 6 hrs off for weeks. Add, rearm/refuel every other day. So every other day one of my 6 hrs off we were at our resupply stations. Water restrictions on top of that. Our chiefs invented the term "suck it up buttercup." I was a 20 year old BM on my 1st Tincan. I learned alot doing that job.
Was discharged from the USN in the year 1980 as a OS2 after four years. Enlisted as an E-1. I always felt that I had the best job while underway, but the most boring job in port; stand around with foxtail in hand and look busy.
I, also, was an OS2 after 4 years. I got off active duty in 1980 and then joined the reserves. I could never make E-6 (PNA everytime) in the reserves and got out in 1985.
QM's have it pretty good. At least they did when I was in. You stand watch on the bridge, and the spaces assigned to the Nav division are above the weather deck and aren't that big usually so they are easy to clean. I say that even as I'm remembering that we had to clean the bridge, which ain't so small.
Surgical Tech Corpsman here - Stationed on oversea shore duty and work a 8 - 15 with a two hour lunch and UOD is always hopital scrubs and sneakers - Being in a small command work consists of patient care, surgery, and running our sterile processing department and we have no watch since we are on call for a whole week once a month. In big hospitals, corpsman spend all day scrubbing surgery but it's still consistent from around 0645-1500. *If you have further questions let me know :)*
Good content! Enjoyed it. As to employability I agree with one of your commenters. The engineering rates offer so much. I walked onto my first submarine as an E 1 looking to be a RM (radioman) but met the A gangers and I was hooked. I was a MM (nonnuc) striker, made Chief at 9 on shore duty after 8 years on 2 boats, retired as a CWO3 at 20 years. My last 2 ships (sub tenders, 1500 personnel) I was the DCA, so the HT's and DC's were mine. And I had the pleasure (sic) of discussing clog clearing techniques with our XO (35 year O6 LDO) after my guys blew up a CHT line in female berthing with a 250-psi fire hose!!
I was on an aircraft carrier. I was in Data Processing now called IT and it was ok. The people I saw that had the worse jobs were Snipes, Flight Deck Crews, and the Air Plane Mechanics. Snipes: I had to go down in one of the engineering spaces once and I honestly don't know how those guys stand it. It was hotter than hell. Flight Deck Crews: Not only is it dangerous but those guys would work 18 hours a day but they still had to be up and hour before Flight Ops. Air Plane Mechanics: They were working all the time and back then Congress would buy enough parts, so we had hanger bay queens (planes that were cannibalize for parts for 28 days but had to be put back in action before the 30th day or that squadron would fail their readiness report). When the ship had a stand down day which meant we weren't flying and most people had a day off, they had to work all day so the planes would be ready the next day.
If you join the Navy Try to learn where your skills apply, I did GMG and I had very good C school training, I got out and had no idea how to apply my problem solving, trouble shooting and Electronic Hyrolic repair. skills. could have rolled into heavy equipment repair tech or production plant maintenance or related. I squandered several years before I had a clue. I did better later in life with that understanding.
That's why they are called jacks - all -trades. As a former Deckape, I know what it is to work long hours in port and out at sea. I got out as a third class,but I can honestly say I'm proud to be a bous'n-mate. I did many things as a BM that other ratings don't have a chance to do.
You forgot Master at Arms. We never had to crank, I worked 6 hours a day underway because we had 4 watches. When we were in port we worked 12s but you could hit a port where you work one shift. Then 3 days off. So I would say our workload compared to A CS was at 25%. I loved being on the Carrier. Got to travel and not work as hard as a MA on shore.
Spot on with the HT bit served aboard a DDG from 2000-2004. Came in undesignated fireman, struck into HT. I went from E-1 to E5 picking up E-5 in late 2003 and at that time it was hard to advance. I can say with everything we had to do, plus 3 section watch duty underway and in port. 20 hours of sleep over a week was kind of a luxury. The only HT in my division to hold a PSM and ASM qual underway. Making welds, building stuff, plumbing, firefighting, fire marshall stuff, oh yeah chasing poo and digging all kinds of stuff out of the toilets.
While it's true that the promotion rate is a bit dodgy at the current moment, don't write us ETs off. A school and your clearance is enough on a resume to get you a job starting at 50k+(if you know how to work it into your CV), and even more money if you pick up some NECs( equipment or occupation specialties via C schools for those who don't know) and tap into Navy certificate reimbursements and Skillbridge, spaces are always air conditioned, and majority of watches are of the on call variety which isn't terrible when you got enough people in your shop. Quite possible to make 6 in 6 if you're on point and pursue qualifications like CSOOW. Not to mention you virtually can be put on any sea or shore command around the world if you take initiative and don't tick your detailer off. A lot of people I knew coming off of instructor duty and looking to get out are are already entertaining six figure jobs with both contractor and civilian focused private sector companies. Whereas with FC, you're limited to defense contractors (which still pay very well but generally require relocation and other considerations) if you don't leverage your certificates and other collateral duty experience. All in all, most importantly for anyone reading this is to pick a rate that you know you can enjoy doing every day and don't settle for anything less barring a medical or clearance denial, and leverage your GI bill. The Navy is full of ups and downs, and ultimately your experience is dictated on how you approach each day, not just your rate.
That is true, outside of how bad the advancement been the last few years ET doesn’t seem bad especially if you’re using the navy as a stepping stone/gateway to something bigger
@@KelloTheArtist Indeed, going in with a plan is probably the most critical aspect a potential recruit can do and following it through. Having that focus is a invaluable aid in navigating the politics of enlisted life and acts as a compass when the screwy stuff the navy has a reputation for (weird or seemingly unnecessary tasks are delegated or otherwise stuck working with people who disagree with each other) shows up. Navy is a great option no matter if you choose active duty, SELRES, or FTS/TAR. Just gotta go in with a good mindset and learn how to play the game. In any case. Good video and thank you for helping people learn about the possibilities. You're doing more work than 90% MEPS classifiers for sure!
I was never on a tin can. I ran the Machine shop on the USS CORAL SEA. But on a Aircraft Carrier a HT if he wants to learn will become a fantastic welder. So after he gets out he can find High paying jobs anywhere.
Thank you so much for talking about after the Navy Jobs. I really feel some young people today don't look at the future. Are you going to do 20 years on a Ship. Or just do 4 to 6 years. Then what. You must look at your future. You did a excellent video to show this on different Jobs the Navy does.
I was an ETSN when I reported to Waddell (DDG-24), Sewed on my first crow shortly after reporting. Stood a few Petty officer of the watch. Then I ended up Duty driver (flag, and the crews bus while we were in Pearl. Best duty of my 3 ships
I retired as a Chief Signalman after 20 years, 2 days. in1980. Now it is gone, again. The HT rating is a combination of Pipe Fitter, Metal Smith, Ship Fitter. BM is the Jack of all Trades. Sid that for 6 months. It appears, nothing much has changed...
HT’s or more affectionately known as “TURD HERDERS”. I was an STG aboard a DDG in the mid to late 80’s. Over 65 straight weeks of advanced electronics schooling. I was an STG3 right after “A” school. I had a NATO Top Secret clearance and was in the PRP. STG best job. Was also on the snoopy team. Job opportunities were: a job with any of the contractors that make all of the sonar suites in the Navy. I chose to switch to the Army with Airborne in contract. Was a prime power production specialist, 52E. Retired from the Army but, made STG1 in the Navy in a very short time. Always passed and advanced in 1st or 2nd wave of advancements. The cooks aboard my ship had mess cranks.
Dang skippy, MC is hands down the best. I was a Photographers Mate in the 70’s and 80’s before they were combined with Journalists to make the MC rating. If you want adventure in the Navy, be an MC!
That’s dope, last year we had mostly OS1s because all the second classes made rank on their way to the ship 😂 but then the quotas dropped for first but still 100% second class.
I've watched 10 of these type of videos and not a single one mentioned CT. Clearance, duty stations all over the world, and on every platform, ie; air, ship, subs, specwar, shore. They have the best opportunities in the navy.
I have always told young people who have no idea what life is like, what you want to be or done with your live to use the military as a learning tool. If you want to have a hands on type of career, let the military train you and see if you like doing it. Or if electronics is for you, try it out. One thing the military will do is help you find out what you DON'T want to do. So many people go to collage, build up a huge collage bill and come out with nothing but a degree in something you can't find a job in. Let the military show you what you don't want to do. And, then use the G.I. bill to pay for what you really want to do. It can give you the direction you really needed, Not what the collage counseller was selling. I hope you have a real job and don't depend on RUclips to support yourself. I can see why the Navy was not for you.
My recruiter talked me into coming in the Navy undesignated, I was dumb to let it happen even though I knew I wanted to be corpsman. I even scored high on my ASVAB. I qualified for every job except Nuke but I couldn’t get what I wanted. At least the striker program was available. My first ship was a CG and I got assigned to deck department and knew from day one this wasn’t for me. I started looking at other technical career paths and saw you could be stuck as an E-3 as HM for years. Luckily then intel officer on the ship was a chief and help me learn about his job and he got me out of deck. I was still an E-3 but I wasn’t doing deck work anymore. I think at that point I had been in deck 1 1/2 years and then spent the next 6 months with the EW’s. I’m not sure if there are EW’s anymore. CG’s were billeted for one IS that had to be E-6 or above. Anyway I got into IS “A” school and chose to go to a LHD on the west coast. I didn’t know how bad Norfolk was until I got to San Diego. Because of my previous sea time, I only had to do 2 years on The Boxer until I went to my next duty station in Hawaii. After Hawaii my next sea duty was with a special warfare team that specialized in mine warfare. I was considered the intel “officer” even though when I got there I was an newly frocked E-6. I got out at year 9 and took a job with SAIC and I’m still here. I guess what I’m saying is I chose the right rate for me because of the flexibility IS has.
thats good that you had a success story i know some undes that didn't know what they wanted to do cause they never got to do non deck stuff and just chose something hoping for the best
@@KelloTheArtist So true again. But when I became a recruiter, I always told all the recruits that were coming in as undesignated how they can retake the Asvab and how the Professional Development Board works on a ship. And you know I sat in on many PDB boards. for many young sailors for retention for the Navy and boost morale.
@@markjohnson-sl9qf that’s rare most recruiter stories I hear they were just left to sink… even my recruiter was an STG and had me pick STG but have me little info lol
@@KelloTheArtist That's messed up, but that's why I always told my recruits what I experience in my life at sea That's way I was Cap twice and made E-9 in 12 yrs at the age 29. And I had shore duty for most of my 30 years in the Navy.
nice im an aviation rate that im an AD just starting my job it is fun long hours you have to work and worry that the aircraft going to fly good and smooth but i got stuck in Norfolk working on H-60 did went to San Diego for C school it did look nice then came to Norfolk it was umm boring the place is then i went to my command it was fun and all did learn stuff and in about 6 months later i been notify that my command is getting decommission already going to my next command but im going on detachment along the way going to be first time on a ship that will be fun and nervous but when i first join i did not get a good score on my ASVAB but when i get my rate the only one they have was aviation machinist mate i was thinking for other jobs but that is only one they have i have no choice so i do it and up to this day the rate that i have is great for me but you have a tough one i will give respect to you
I was a MM on DDG-13 75-78. Eight hours of watch daily plus being in the engine room for the daily eight to four work routine. It was hot, dirty, and I was sleep deprived much of the time. Fond memories but it would of ranked low on the list of desirable jobs
When I was in , the best rate is BM's. They're promoting ranks and chiefs constantly. BM's do get the dirty and long hours of work. They're like the foundation of the Navy.
My first tour was on a DD. I went from E-2 to E-5. It was great. No women onboard, no PC nonsense. My last command was a DDG. Sucked out loud. So happy I retired in 2002.
I always respected the BM's , as theirs is one of the few rates learned only at sea and not in school. Plus, handling lines and dropping anchor are both very dangerous evolutions, which require a high degree of practice, training, seamanship and knowledge-John in Texas
What I could NEVER understand about the USN is why they could never guarantee an enlistee a rate, like the Army does. If it hadn't been for my B.A. in English and A.A.S. in E.E.T., I would have been a Postal Clerk or Mess Specialist, instead of an ICman!-John in Texas
I went in in 1970. Was guaranteed MM going in. I told my CC in boot that I was NOT a Seaman Recruit, I was a Fireman! I also told him what my first duty station was going to be... He responded with "BULL SHIT!". He pooped his khakis when he read my orders to MM A school, followed with "For Further Transfer" (FFT) to USS Johnston! It didn't hurt that I had a 99.2% average in boot camp.... being #2 worked as well as #1 for chosing your next duty station! 😉
I enlisted in 78, my rate was guaranteed before i enlisted . I scored high enough on the entry tests to qualify . As long i did well enough in my schools I was in . I was an FTM. Not an easy rate to get into.
bro CS yes they are the worse rates but that are the most respected rate cuz they make the for you when you are hungry on the ship they make the sailors happy on the ship food makes you happy after your work and on your job food just boost the morale for the sailors good food is what makes good sailors happy
bruh as a CS you ain't lying about that 16-18 hour days underway. But we also get 5 and 2s inport so I guess it's aite. Also I don't think we had any issues where to hangout. Our storerooms is where we kick it mostly, and coz we make so many friends (or the other way around) we tend to be welcome in our homies spaces (except classified spaces of course). Good job shipmate.
@@KelloTheArtist on my DD I usually hung out with a couple of my EM and GSE friends either on the fantail or on the weatherdecks when the smoking lamp was lit (back in the early 90s), berthing lounge or just sleep allday lol. On the Bonnie Dick we had the big ass storeroom to watch movies all day and night. And after working hours our Supply and Engineering buddies would come down there and kick it too. Us CSs always find a way to be with friends honestly.
NOBODY wants to be an undesignated Seaman. It's a sure assignment to be a BM's slave. The Skipper assigned people to the deck department if they got a Captains Mast. Once that happened, lots of deck apes disappeared (AWOL). USN,1970/73.
Pick a job where you work ABOVE the main deck. Sonar, Radar, Weapons,Electronics, etc. otherwise you are cooking or working with your hands and getting dirty.
advice for picking a rate.....get a very high ASVAB. Study if you know your a rock. If your smart, the Navy wants to use that. 25 years in Navy. E-1 to O5. I know what I am talking about
I've got to chime in with my own piece of advice here. If you don't want to work don't be a member of crew of any ship. Please stay at home. We don't need the ballast.
Yes, I agree. I was in from 79 - 85 USN and made FTG1 in the Advanced Electronics Field (AEF) in 5.5 years. The funny thing was they promoted you to E-4 right after A-school in any AEF rating (as long as you took the 6-year enlistment). I was promoted to E-4 less than 6 months after I started. Really I was just a bit lucky in that my original promotion to E-4 date lined me up to perfectly make the Navy-wide advance exam dates for E-5 and then E-6 later down the line.
I was an FTG / FC I was in when FTG & FTM merged. I loved my job. Lots more work and extra duty gigs than the OSs. But when we went on the Gunline to shoot NGFS it was great. Nothing I have done in my life since then has compared to being a leading FTG on a DDG (Adams class). And after big Navy, the electronics skills set me up for life. In fact, I am in my last electronics-oriented civilian job pending retirement. The USN was the best decision my 18-year-old ass ever made.
Sorry, but when you say Corpsman do all their time in a hospital, that is false. Corpsman DO serve on ships, and it's not by choice. And no offense, but you might not be aware of it, but Corpsman also serve with Marines Corps units, in peacetime and wartime. That includes front line combat units, like the infantry. When with the Marines, Navy Corpsman live and work along side their Marines. That includes war and combat. With the obvious exception of the Navy Seals, Corpsman are the ONLY Navy Personnel to go into combat on the ground. They are in pretty much the same danger as the Marines they are assigned to. Yes, you are correct about the slow promotions. It's the 2nd slowest advancing rate in the Navy.
You choose your rate, you choose your fate. 1974-1997. MMC/SS A-Gang retired. Submarines are the only way to fly. Small crews. Best foods. Do your research. Fun was had by all.
statistically they have a low chance. My rate is 5 sea 3 shore and you WILL end up on a ship in your first contact. Ive met HMs from marine units and ship but majority don't do stuff like that unless they volunteer
Your missing the mark on employability after the Navy. “In my opinion” is the best way to open the video. The most employable personnel in the Navy are the Engineers. They are not limited to contractor, gov jobs, they translate to the private sector. So for people interested in joining the navy, please speak to “lifers”. “Lifers See the broad spectrum from being a Jr. sailor to making Chief or get a commission as an officer. They also might have connection to a recruiter that won’t mess you over.
I already know the answer would be no if I worked on the flight deck or something like that but if I’m making food or cleaning shit are you guys allowed to have AirPods/ speakers while you work
@@KelloTheArtist That's okay!! It was still the US Navy. It was, however, a kind of different Navy. If that makes any sense. The subs just seemed to operate a bit differently. I've been retired for 30 years now. I never thought I'd live to see the day females are on subs. They now are. Not being sexist, they don't belong there. I suppose the Navy figured something out. Those are VERY close quarters. Very close living conditions. I guess it's politics.
@@robr2389 yeah I would agree cause I’ve heard they still hot rack and have certain standards that throwing females into the mix would seem complicated but I guess that’s for big navy to figure out the logistics… Thank you for your service especially being on a sun it seems a lot more challenging
@@KelloTheArtist Oh yes Kello. I didn't have to hot rack much. Only once as I remember. In the submarines, rank comes quick. I was an RM2(SS) before I turned 21. Submarines have more E-5's than any other paygrade. At least in my day. An E-5 on a skimmer ship is a "somebody". Respected. On a submarine, you're just another crewman. A worker bee as one of my favorite XO's wife referred to E-5's as. I fully concurred with her.😅
I kind of Disagree with you on the CS and BM rates..I used to be CS back than they were Called MS's anyway ..I am a Merchant Marine cook now making 12,000-14,000 a month...my best friend was a BM now he's a AB making the same money I do.. now he is getting his Mates Lisense getting to become a Officer..to me these are Great Rates...lol
I wonder why ND (Navy Diver) is not listed in most videos and not very known? Maybe because its not so popular and maybe not safe but ill love to learn more about Navy diver! If you can not very popular so maybe not but oh well!
IT's are the best rate by far. IT's control your internet access & phones. The crew does not want to piss off the IT's that can get them access to email, FB & RUclips or evel allow you to do your job. When everyone else is in RC1, they are surfin the interenet & on the phone to home. The expectation is to get a commercial certification & maintain a TS security clearance that translates to a 6 figure salary in civ land.
FC here, I’d say that OS isn’t a better rate than FC/FCA or ET but it’s definitely easier, like the easiest job in the navy, if you have a sense of pride in your work don’t become an OS, on the other hand if you do want to kick back and basically have E5 guaranteed then take OS, also FC/ET have larger bonuses and make over 100k after the navy, I’d say that HT is the worst job in the entire military, you get covered in human shit
They seem overall happy and have a lot of options outside the navy… I made a vid on picking rates this might help ruclips.net/video/qJyqER7tW8I/видео.html
Why do all Navy RUclipsrs get rate and rating mixed up? You're talking about ratings. Rate tefers to pay grade. You should know this. ---former OS 78,-83
Thank you guys for all your support!
I wish this info was available when i was young . I became a Fire Control Missile tech . just by luck and scoring high on entrance tests . The recruiter chose it for me . I had no clue what it involved until i got into school. We had the best of everything in my opinion. I still miss it.
I joined Uncle Sams Confused Group (USCG) because I wanted to learn how to drive surf boats. They told me in boot camp that wasn't going to happen so I chose sonar which turned out to be the better choice. Turned out I had a great curiosity for this and still do to this day over 50 years later trying to learn things not taught to me in sonar school.
I was an FC while in the Navy. Radar operator/ technician. Got out and became a tech rep for the Navy on the radar systems until I landed a job on the B-2 Bomber Flight Test Program. After that ended, I moved to a radar position at NASA Dryden. Retired in 2004.
I was an FTM . Turn two sailor . haha
I was in in the 60's and 70's, I was a self-trained ET, I made 3rd class off the mess decks and 2nd in 18 months from my enlistment date. I passed the first-class test but would have had to re-enlist, to put the rate on. I saw more than 50 countries, in 4 years that with 2 tours in Vietnam. I got out because I was never home. The electronics I learned served me well in industry, as well as now as a radio amateur.
Yeah et rate must have changed a lot. I was offered 18month shore duty advance in rate an i think 15k to reup... sub duty meant always at sea on the uss neverport and with no guarentee of how long the shore duty would last, i sold back two months vacation pay plus left two months early. Couple guys took it and stayed till retirement.
BM is the oldest rate. The true sailors, shit work but so fkn rewarding. As a BM1 all the sailors I’ve trained and undesignated I’ve led. We are the true circulatory system of the fleet. Pride till death.
This comment makes me so glad i wasn’t a bm. I just know this dood is working his sailors beyond the limits of their sanity.
@@trevorhuff7213😂🤣🤣
When I was in the Canoe Club, I was an MM1. I told people I loved my job, just didn't like the company I worked for....
I got out, after 8 yrs. I went to the Coast Guard and got my 3rd engineers license to sail on Merchant vessels.
Long story short here...
After awhile I started sailing as Chief Electrician, as they didn't stand watch, and (mostly) made more $ than engineers (who stood 4 on 8 off, 7 days a week).
The other part about being the Electrician on a ship, was that everyone was afraid of the electricity. If you knew what you were doing (and doing it right!) you basically ran the ship.
The best advise I would give anyone in the Navy is to take any and all extra schooling the Navy offers! Fire fighting, First aid, Damage Control, Leadership training, professional training in your rating (and others, if you can).
I was an FC in the Navy. On my first ship underway was hell for FCs. We did our regular maintenance and repair work during "normal" ship hours. Then we were tasked to do Boatswain's type work like scraping and painting the ship, black tarring the deck, and even sewing macrame for the quarterdeck. Then there were the three (and sometimes two) sections watch rotation.
Oh wow, it’s not like that atleast on my ship… that sounds like it sucked lol
A lot of it depends on a bunch of different factors, like nec, division, manning, and what phase your ship is in. Like t-hawk or mk 160 techs, you're not gonna be doing shit, but CIWS? Get ready to troubleshoot. Watches just depend on manning and how good people are on their quals. And if you're ship is in an extended inport period, than yeah you're gonna be preservating, but so is everyone else
I was Aegis (before FCA was a thing) during my time. Fortunately, my WC was pretty stacked, and most of us went to ATRC either together or within a year of each other, so we stayed stacked during my time. It made our watch rotation really good, not to mention that we had all 6 duty sections covered. However, SPY is a maintenance nightmare because it’s so big (bigger on a cruiser than a destroyer), so there is constant checks, and always something needing repair, some of which can take days to complete. But, we made pallets in our radar rooms and made them very livable, so we had our own comforts for our down time without fighting for TV in berthing.
@@forrestcommander6283 spy is still an issue at times from what i see but they do have a lot of freedom
Retired FCC(SW) but first system CIWS fairly maintenance intensive..
Clarification: as a former HT we didn’t clean the mess. We had a ‘system’ where we used DC plugs/reducer fittings and fire main pressure to clear blockages. After the blockage is cleared, the owner of the space cleans the head. Same for any hot work: if we weld, braze, or solder any piping the owner of the space cleans, paints, or whatever. We cleaned up our ONLY own shop, and we were responsible for our gear.
Did you like HT and does it translate to anything civ side?
I was a Deck Seamen not even rated as a BM, on the USS Constellation in the early 90's. We stood 8 hours of watch, and did 8 hours of work plus UNREPs 8,12, 16, How ever long and QGs, So my day may have started at 0345 up for a 4-8 bridge watch (at the helm). Do 8 hour of work for the day ( chip and painting),get off work grab dinner maybe or start setting up for a UnRep from 1800 to 2400. Off just in time to go back on watch on the helm for 4 more hours. Because it is a new day. God I miss them days. There is no sleep at sea.
Yeah a lot of rates get screwed over with sleep but the BMs for sure take the cake!
That's why they are called deck apes.
@@billsanders5067 😂😂
When I was on a Destroyer off the coast of Vietnam, we worked 6 hrs on 6 hrs off for weeks. Add, rearm/refuel every other day. So every other day one of my 6 hrs off we were at our resupply stations. Water restrictions on top of that. Our chiefs invented the term "suck it up buttercup." I was a 20 year old BM on my 1st Tincan. I learned alot doing that job.
I got to sleep but it was never enough.
Was discharged from the USN in the year 1980 as a OS2 after four years. Enlisted as an E-1. I always felt that I had the best job while underway, but the most boring job in port; stand around with foxtail in hand and look busy.
I, also, was an OS2 after 4 years. I got off active duty in 1980 and then joined the reserves. I could never make E-6 (PNA everytime) in the reserves and got out in 1985.
QM's have it pretty good. At least they did when I was in. You stand watch on the bridge, and the spaces assigned to the Nav division are above the weather deck and aren't that big usually so they are easy to clean. I say that even as I'm remembering that we had to clean the bridge, which ain't so small.
Surgical Tech Corpsman here - Stationed on oversea shore duty and work a 8 - 15 with a two hour lunch and UOD is always hopital scrubs and sneakers - Being in a small command work consists of patient care, surgery, and running our sterile processing department and we have no watch since we are on call for a whole week once a month. In big hospitals, corpsman spend all day scrubbing surgery but it's still consistent from around 0645-1500. *If you have further questions let me know :)*
Good content! Enjoyed it. As to employability I agree with one of your commenters. The engineering rates offer so much. I walked onto my first submarine as an E 1 looking to be a RM (radioman) but met the A gangers and I was hooked. I was a MM (nonnuc) striker, made Chief at 9 on shore duty after 8 years on 2 boats, retired as a CWO3 at 20 years. My last 2 ships (sub tenders, 1500 personnel) I was the DCA, so the HT's and DC's were mine. And I had the pleasure (sic) of discussing clog clearing techniques with our XO (35 year O6 LDO) after my guys blew up a CHT line in female berthing with a 250-psi fire hose!!
Mad respect for engineering departments on every ship.
They put in the work fr!
CT is the best rating. SR to CTOC in 8 years then CWO2 at 14 plus early selected for W3 and W4.
I was on an aircraft carrier. I was in Data Processing now called IT and it was ok. The people I saw that had the worse jobs were Snipes, Flight Deck Crews, and the Air Plane Mechanics.
Snipes: I had to go down in one of the engineering spaces once and I honestly don't know how those guys stand it. It was hotter than hell.
Flight Deck Crews: Not only is it dangerous but those guys would work 18 hours a day but they still had to be up and hour before Flight Ops.
Air Plane Mechanics: They were working all the time and back then Congress would buy enough parts, so we had hanger bay queens (planes that were cannibalize for parts for 28 days but had to be put back in action before the 30th day or that squadron would fail their readiness report). When the ship had a stand down day which meant we weren't flying and most people had a day off, they had to work all day so the planes would be ready the next day.
Was an OS in the 70s on DDG45 Dewey.....loved the job...2 Med Cruises and Gitmo..........BZ
Good video and good discussion. I really respected the BMs on board. They were capable of doing anything...just what is needed on a Navy ship.
Yes! BMs do a-lot
I'm an OS, we do valves for maintenance and that's it.
I was an STG2 as well on an FDNF DDG! So right in everything! CA div was never short on space!
If you join the Navy Try to learn where your skills apply, I did GMG and I had very good C school training, I got out and had no idea how to apply my problem solving, trouble shooting and Electronic Hyrolic repair. skills. could have rolled into heavy equipment repair tech or production plant maintenance or related. I squandered several years before I had a clue. I did better later in life with that understanding.
That's why they are called jacks - all -trades. As a former Deckape, I know what it is to work long hours in port and out at sea. I got out as a third class,but I can honestly say I'm proud to be a bous'n-mate. I did many things as a BM that other ratings don't have a chance to do.
You forgot Master at Arms. We never had to crank, I worked 6 hours a day underway because we had 4 watches. When we were in port we worked 12s but you could hit a port where you work one shift. Then 3 days off. So I would say our workload compared to A CS was at 25%. I loved being on the Carrier. Got to travel and not work as hard as a MA on shore.
Spot on with the HT bit served aboard a DDG from 2000-2004. Came in undesignated fireman, struck into HT. I went from E-1 to E5 picking up E-5 in late 2003 and at that time it was hard to advance. I can say with everything we had to do, plus 3 section watch duty underway and in port. 20 hours of sleep over a week was kind of a luxury. The only HT in my division to hold a PSM and ASM qual underway. Making welds, building stuff, plumbing, firefighting, fire marshall stuff, oh yeah chasing poo and digging all kinds of stuff out of the toilets.
So is this a recommendation?
@@8ballsippa I never recommend anything.
While it's true that the promotion rate is a bit dodgy at the current moment, don't write us ETs off. A school and your clearance is enough on a resume to get you a job starting at 50k+(if you know how to work it into your CV), and even more money if you pick up some NECs( equipment or occupation specialties via C schools for those who don't know) and tap into Navy certificate reimbursements and Skillbridge, spaces are always air conditioned, and majority of watches are of the on call variety which isn't terrible when you got enough people in your shop. Quite possible to make 6 in 6 if you're on point and pursue qualifications like CSOOW. Not to mention you virtually can be put on any sea or shore command around the world if you take initiative and don't tick your detailer off.
A lot of people I knew coming off of instructor duty and looking to get out are are already entertaining six figure jobs with both contractor and civilian focused private sector companies. Whereas with FC, you're limited to defense contractors (which still pay very well but generally require relocation and other considerations) if you don't leverage your certificates and other collateral duty experience.
All in all, most importantly for anyone reading this is to pick a rate that you know you can enjoy doing every day and don't settle for anything less barring a medical or clearance denial, and leverage your GI bill. The Navy is full of ups and downs, and ultimately your experience is dictated on how you approach each day, not just your rate.
That is true, outside of how bad the advancement been the last few years ET doesn’t seem bad especially if you’re using the navy as a stepping stone/gateway to something bigger
@@KelloTheArtist Indeed, going in with a plan is probably the most critical aspect a potential recruit can do and following it through. Having that focus is a invaluable aid in navigating the politics of enlisted life and acts as a compass when the screwy stuff the navy has a reputation for (weird or seemingly unnecessary tasks are delegated or otherwise stuck working with people who disagree with each other) shows up.
Navy is a great option no matter if you choose active duty, SELRES, or FTS/TAR.
Just gotta go in with a good mindset and learn how to play the game.
In any case. Good video and thank you for helping people learn about the possibilities.
You're doing more work than 90% MEPS classifiers for sure!
I was never on a tin can. I ran the Machine shop on the USS CORAL SEA. But on a Aircraft Carrier a HT if he wants to learn will become a fantastic welder. So after he gets out he can find High paying jobs anywhere.
On bigger ships yes but on small ships not as much.
That BRUH…. Really hit different😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Thank you so much for talking about after the Navy Jobs. I really feel some young people today don't look at the future. Are you going to do 20 years on a Ship. Or just do 4 to 6 years. Then what. You must look at your future. You did a excellent video to show this on different Jobs the Navy does.
I’m doing 1 contract and I’m done I realized quickly it’s not for me personally but my rate has nothing to do with what I wanna do after
FC1 retired here. Underway I'd either stand a TLAM watch in CIC or CSOOW in CSMC. In port either OOD or Chief of the Guard.
I was an ETSN when I reported to Waddell (DDG-24), Sewed on my first crow shortly after reporting. Stood a few Petty officer of the watch. Then I ended up Duty driver (flag, and the crews bus while we were in Pearl. Best duty of my 3 ships
OS2 here, he sums it up pretty good!
I retired as a Chief Signalman after 20 years, 2 days. in1980. Now it is gone, again. The HT rating is a combination of Pipe Fitter, Metal Smith, Ship Fitter. BM is the Jack of all Trades. Sid that for 6 months. It appears, nothing much has changed...
HT’s or more affectionately known as “TURD HERDERS”. I was an STG aboard a DDG in the mid to late 80’s. Over 65 straight weeks of advanced electronics schooling. I was an STG3 right after “A” school. I had a NATO Top Secret clearance and was in the PRP. STG best job. Was also on the snoopy team. Job opportunities were: a job with any of the contractors that make all of the sonar suites in the Navy. I chose to switch to the Army with Airborne in contract. Was a prime power production specialist, 52E. Retired from the Army but, made STG1 in the Navy in a very short time. Always passed and advanced in 1st or 2nd wave of advancements. The cooks aboard my ship had mess cranks.
Dang skippy, MC is hands down the best. I was a Photographers Mate in the 70’s and 80’s before they were combined with Journalists to make the MC rating. If you want adventure in the Navy, be an MC!
I had an FSA OSSN that made rank first time everytime. He's now a Senior Chief getting ready for his Master Chief promotion.
That’s dope, last year we had mostly OS1s because all the second classes made rank on their way to the ship 😂 but then the quotas dropped for first but still 100% second class.
@@KelloTheArtist hahaha, what a predicament😆
I've watched 10 of these type of videos and not a single one mentioned CT. Clearance, duty stations all over the world, and on every platform, ie; air, ship, subs, specwar, shore. They have the best opportunities in the navy.
They really do and outside of navy too
Would recommend someone to do CTR or CTT? Tbh I’m between CTR and OS? Can barely find something about CTR
@@YRM1294 Do not go OS. CTR is leagues ahead of OS in terms of job variety, upward mobility, and duty station selection.
Not to nitpick, but your job field is your rating, not rate. Rate is like your rank; E-1, E-2, E-3, etc.
Yeah technically
I am a retired Senior Chief. All of this is still the same now as then.
I was an OS for 20 years from 1980-2000. Getting off before 1600 was frowned upon. I made E-6 in 6 years.
I have always told young people who have no idea what life is like, what you want to be or done with your live to use the military as a learning tool. If you want to have a hands on type of career, let the military train you and see if you like doing it. Or if electronics is for you, try it out. One thing the military will do is help you find out what you DON'T want to do. So many people go to collage, build up a huge collage bill and come out with nothing but a degree in something you can't find a job in. Let the military show you what you don't want to do. And, then use the G.I. bill to pay for what you really want to do. It can give you the direction you really needed, Not what the collage counseller was selling. I hope you have a real job and don't depend on RUclips to support yourself. I can see why the Navy was not for you.
i'm still in the military as of this video.....
My recruiter talked me into coming in the Navy undesignated, I was dumb to let it happen even though I knew I wanted to be corpsman. I even scored high on my ASVAB. I qualified for every job except Nuke but I couldn’t get what I wanted. At least the striker program was available. My first ship was a CG and I got assigned to deck department and knew from day one this wasn’t for me. I started looking at other technical career paths and saw you could be stuck as an E-3 as HM for years. Luckily then intel officer on the ship was a chief and help me learn about his job and he got me out of deck. I was still an E-3 but I wasn’t doing deck work anymore. I think at that point I had been in deck 1 1/2 years and then spent the next 6 months with the EW’s. I’m not sure if there are EW’s anymore. CG’s were billeted for one IS that had to be E-6 or above. Anyway I got into IS “A” school and chose to go to a LHD on the west coast. I didn’t know how bad Norfolk was until I got to San Diego. Because of my previous sea time, I only had to do 2 years on The Boxer until I went to my next duty station in Hawaii. After Hawaii my next sea duty was with a special warfare team that specialized in mine warfare. I was considered the intel “officer” even though when I got there I was an newly frocked E-6. I got out at year 9 and took a job with SAIC and I’m still here. I guess what I’m saying is I chose the right rate for me because of the flexibility IS has.
thats good that you had a success story i know some undes that didn't know what they wanted to do cause they never got to do non deck stuff and just chose something hoping for the best
@@KelloTheArtist So true again. But when I became a recruiter, I always told all the recruits that were coming in as undesignated how they can retake the Asvab and how the Professional Development Board works on a ship. And you know I sat in on many PDB boards. for many young sailors for retention for the Navy and boost morale.
@@markjohnson-sl9qf that’s rare most recruiter stories I hear they were just left to sink… even my recruiter was an STG and had me pick STG but have me little info lol
@@KelloTheArtist That's messed up, but that's why I always told my recruits what I experience in my life at sea That's way I was Cap twice and made E-9 in 12 yrs at the age 29. And I had shore duty for most of my 30 years in the Navy.
nice im an aviation rate that im an AD just starting my job it is fun long hours you have to work and worry that the aircraft going to fly good and smooth but i got stuck in Norfolk working on H-60 did went to San Diego for C school it did look nice then came to Norfolk it was umm boring the place is then i went to my command it was fun and all did learn stuff and in about 6 months later i been notify that my command is getting decommission already going to my next command but im going on detachment along the way going to be first time on a ship that will be fun and nervous but when i first join i did not get a good score on my ASVAB but when i get my rate the only one they have was aviation machinist mate i was thinking for other jobs but that is only one they have i have no choice so i do it and up to this day the rate that i have is great for me but you have a tough one i will give respect to you
I was a MM on DDG-13 75-78. Eight hours of watch daily plus being in the engine room for the daily eight to four work routine. It was hot, dirty, and I was sleep deprived much of the time. Fond memories but it would of ranked low on the list of desirable jobs
When I was in , the best rate is BM's. They're promoting ranks and chiefs constantly. BM's do get the dirty and long hours of work. They're like the foundation of the Navy.
Yea I was a CS on the Reagan for 5 years and that shit was not fun at all lol. But at least I was in a private mess most of my time there
Never let anyone talk you out of your job, especially recruiters.
My first tour was on a DD. I went from E-2 to E-5. It was great. No women onboard, no PC nonsense. My last command was a DDG. Sucked out loud. So happy I retired in 2002.
He is so right on BM's. I was a BM for about 5yrs then I switch rates to NC and retired as a NCCM after 30 yrs active duty.
Hopefully as a sea going career advisor and not a career recruiter...
I always respected the BM's , as theirs is one of the few rates learned only at sea and not in school. Plus, handling lines and dropping anchor are both very dangerous evolutions, which require a high degree of practice, training, seamanship and knowledge-John in Texas
@@TheGearhead222 They have BM A schools now.
What I could NEVER understand about the USN is why they could never guarantee an enlistee a rate, like the Army does. If it hadn't been for my B.A. in English and A.A.S. in E.E.T., I would have been a Postal Clerk or Mess Specialist, instead of an ICman!-John in Texas
Simple. The Navy classifiers that work at MEPS assign A and C schools based on ASVAB score, section scores on the ASVAB, and what’s in the computer.
yeah they do you can literally choose your job at meps and sign a contract for it
I went in in 1970. Was guaranteed MM going in. I told my CC in boot that I was NOT a Seaman Recruit, I was a Fireman! I also told him what my first duty station was going to be... He responded with "BULL SHIT!".
He pooped his khakis when he read my orders to MM A school, followed with "For Further Transfer" (FFT) to USS Johnston!
It didn't hurt that I had a 99.2% average in boot camp.... being #2 worked as well as #1 for chosing your next duty station! 😉
I enlisted in 78, my rate was guaranteed before i enlisted . I scored high enough on the entry tests to qualify . As long i did well enough in my schools I was in . I was an FTM. Not an easy rate to get into.
bro CS yes they are the worse rates but that are the most respected rate cuz they make the for you when you are hungry on the ship they make the sailors happy on the ship food makes you happy after your work and on your job food just boost the morale for the sailors good food is what makes good sailors happy
Thank you
that was awesome. thanks man.
Glad you liked it!
USN killed best rate in port or at sea , signalman ,nothing to do in port always knew what was happening at sea...Monte Harwell sm2USN(ret)
My brother in law was a HTC. I always called him the ships plumber.
We called 'em Turd chasers!
Most that I worked with were Nuclear certified welders though...
HM's in the house....but he ain't lying abt them making rank it's hard to get above that 3rd class
I was an HT for 26 years. Best job in the Navy
bruh as a CS you ain't lying about that 16-18 hour days underway. But we also get 5 and 2s inport so I guess it's aite. Also I don't think we had any issues where to hangout. Our storerooms is where we kick it mostly, and coz we make so many friends (or the other way around) we tend to be welcome in our homies spaces (except classified spaces of course). Good job shipmate.
You’re on a small boy?
@@KelloTheArtist I was on both. My first ship was a DD (964), and then an amphib (LHD6). Some dick burned it down. I know you heard about that.
@@flexman70 yeah I was actually in San Diego and watched it happen 🙁… I’m on a DDG and usually see the CSs down in berthing or in the office
@@KelloTheArtist on my DD I usually hung out with a couple of my EM and GSE friends either on the fantail or on the weatherdecks when the smoking lamp was lit (back in the early 90s), berthing lounge or just sleep allday lol. On the Bonnie Dick we had the big ass storeroom to watch movies all day and night. And after working hours our Supply and Engineering buddies would come down there and kick it too. Us CSs always find a way to be with friends honestly.
@@KelloTheArtist ya bro, I watched my ship burn down on tv. That sucked immensely.
NOBODY wants to be an undesignated Seaman. It's a sure assignment to be a BM's slave. The Skipper assigned people to the deck department if they got a Captains Mast. Once that happened, lots of deck apes disappeared (AWOL). USN,1970/73.
It still cracks me up the US navy has a CPO a coffee purcolator operator.
Pick a job where you work ABOVE the main deck. Sonar, Radar, Weapons,Electronics, etc. otherwise you are cooking or working with your hands and getting dirty.
advice for picking a rate.....get a very high ASVAB. Study if you know your a rock. If your smart, the Navy wants to use that. 25 years in Navy. E-1 to O5. I know what I am talking about
I scored 88 on asvab and still got CS. So far so good still enjoying it
MM 3M.M.R. J.F.K. CV-67 40 YRS BACK AND HAVE HAD A GREAT CIVILIAN CAREER AFTER ALL THESE YEARS...
FIRE CONTROLMAN!!!!!
I've got to chime in with my own piece of advice here. If you don't want to work don't be a member of crew of any ship. Please stay at home. We don't need the ballast.
Things have changed in 40 years. ET was a guaranteed E5 in three in the late 70s...
Wow now it’s like 10% I think, I knew a couple ET3 that got auto E4 but was struggling 4+ years to make E5
Yes, I agree. I was in from 79 - 85 USN and made FTG1 in the Advanced Electronics Field (AEF) in 5.5 years. The funny thing was they promoted you to E-4 right after A-school in any AEF rating (as long as you took the 6-year enlistment). I was promoted to E-4 less than 6 months after I started. Really I was just a bit lucky in that my original promotion to E-4 date lined me up to perfectly make the Navy-wide advance exam dates for E-5 and then E-6 later down the line.
I’m not HT but I’m a DC and we are the same division and I can say in a sick way we enjoy the poopy jobs
Nobody does flying squad, except for R division. You forgot to mention HT’s weld and fabricate metal.
I was an FTG / FC I was in when FTG & FTM merged. I loved my job. Lots more work and extra duty gigs than the OSs. But when we went on the Gunline to shoot NGFS it was great. Nothing I have done in my life since then has compared to being a leading FTG on a DDG (Adams class). And after big Navy, the electronics skills set me up for life. In fact, I am in my last electronics-oriented civilian job pending retirement. The USN was the best decision my 18-year-old ass ever made.
Sorry, but when you say Corpsman do all their time in a hospital, that is false. Corpsman DO serve on ships, and it's not by choice. And no offense, but you might not be aware of it, but Corpsman also serve with Marines Corps units, in peacetime and wartime. That includes front line combat units, like the infantry. When with the Marines, Navy Corpsman live and work along side their Marines. That includes war and combat. With the obvious exception of the Navy Seals, Corpsman are the ONLY Navy Personnel to go into combat on the ground. They are in pretty much the same danger as the Marines they are assigned to. Yes, you are correct about the slow promotions. It's the 2nd slowest advancing rate in the Navy.
You choose your rate, you choose your fate. 1974-1997. MMC/SS A-Gang retired. Submarines are the only way to fly. Small crews. Best foods. Do your research. Fun was had by all.
statistically they have a low chance. My rate is 5 sea 3 shore and you WILL end up on a ship in your first contact. Ive met HMs from marine units and ship but majority don't do stuff like that unless they volunteer
It was a flippin prison. So happy I left.
I see your gains !
Current MMN3, still gonna be in school for another year haha
Your missing the mark on employability after the Navy. “In my opinion” is the best way to open the video. The most employable personnel in the Navy are the Engineers. They are not limited to contractor, gov jobs, they translate to the private sector. So for people interested in joining the navy, please speak to “lifers”. “Lifers See the broad spectrum from being a Jr. sailor to making Chief or get a commission as an officer. They also might have connection to a recruiter that won’t mess you over.
HT's should cross rate to mine, UT. We basically do the same thing. XD
Love the content 👍🏽
Thank you!
I already know the answer would be no if I worked on the flight deck or something like that but if I’m making food or cleaning shit are you guys allowed to have AirPods/ speakers while you work
Usually, you can as long as you can still hear the 1MC (ship speaker)
OS works hard at sea but are the first ones off the ship come liberty call.
Not if an FT/FC throws them an elbow on the way across the quarter deck 🙂
Might be true for the skimmer Navy. Didn't touch on the submarine Navy. It's changed so much since I retired 30 years ago.
I don’t know much about the sub life
@@KelloTheArtist That's okay!! It was still the US Navy. It was, however, a kind of different Navy. If that makes any sense. The subs just seemed to operate a bit differently. I've been retired for 30 years now. I never thought I'd live to see the day females are on subs. They now are. Not being sexist, they don't belong there. I suppose the Navy figured something out. Those are VERY close quarters. Very close living conditions. I guess it's politics.
@@robr2389 yeah I would agree cause I’ve heard they still hot rack and have certain standards that throwing females into the mix would seem complicated but I guess that’s for big navy to figure out the logistics… Thank you for your service especially being on a sun it seems a lot more challenging
@@KelloTheArtist Oh yes Kello. I didn't have to hot rack much. Only once as I remember. In the submarines, rank comes quick. I was an RM2(SS) before I turned 21. Submarines have more E-5's than any other paygrade. At least in my day. An E-5 on a skimmer ship is a "somebody". Respected. On a submarine, you're just another crewman. A worker bee as one of my favorite XO's wife referred to E-5's as. I fully concurred with her.😅
@@robr2389 E5 makes ups a bit of the crew on a small boy like DDGs but they are still respected and hold leadership roles
I wish I had a lot of people and time off underway as an OS. I guess things have changed lol. #port&report #OEF
THE OLDEST RATE IN THE NAVY IS THE BOATSWAIN MATE ALL OTHERS ARE SECONDARY
I kind of Disagree with you on the CS and BM rates..I used to be CS back than they were Called MS's anyway ..I am a Merchant Marine cook now making 12,000-14,000 a month...my best friend was a BM now he's a AB making the same money I do.. now he is getting his Mates Lisense getting to become a Officer..to me these are Great Rates...lol
That’s awesome, I guess there are opportunities out there!
“Needs of the Navy”! Get stationed at a command that doesn’t have the rating you want to pursue; you’re SOL!
OS's were the best skaters, never did any fatigue duties.
Dude you missed Musicians..😂😂😂they get to see superbowl..only downside is Funerals.
I can’t play an instrument lol so I didn’t even think of them
I wonder why ND (Navy Diver) is not listed in most videos and not very known? Maybe because its not so popular and maybe not safe but ill love to learn more about Navy diver! If you can not very popular so maybe not but oh well!
IT's are the best rate by far. IT's control your internet access & phones. The crew does not want to piss off the IT's that can get them access to email, FB & RUclips or evel allow you to do your job. When everyone else is in RC1, they are surfin the interenet & on the phone to home. The expectation is to get a commercial certification & maintain a TS security clearance that translates to a 6 figure salary in civ land.
Most aviation rates are pretty good too like AS
I don’t know much about aviation I’ve only been on a DDG
FC here, I’d say that OS isn’t a better rate than FC/FCA or ET but it’s definitely easier, like the easiest job in the navy, if you have a sense of pride in your work don’t become an OS, on the other hand if you do want to kick back and basically have E5 guaranteed then take OS, also FC/ET have larger bonuses and make over 100k after the navy, I’d say that HT is the worst job in the entire military, you get covered in human shit
Yeah I looked at it from the view of everyday work life how easy it is and how easy they advance while doing minimal work in port 😅
@@KelloTheArtist good content man
Lol damn bro you forgot about the RP’s my boi 🤣
Watch my new vid lol I mention RP
Going Air Force eod, any experience working with them ?
Nope, sound cool though! I have met some navy EOD and seen their training but honestly don’t know much about it.
What do you think about IC?
pretty good overall
My rate is EM. Any thoughts on that?
They seem overall happy and have a lot of options outside the navy… I made a vid on picking rates this might help
ruclips.net/video/qJyqER7tW8I/видео.html
What is a Newspaper?
They are ancient pieces of paper most commonly found 50 feet deep in old landfills.
Gunner's Mates Rule!
What about EM, boat needs electric
I don’t interact with them super often
Might be the best engineering rate tbh
AT is.the best rate...great skills to have..
CS own pretty much own all the spaces. They have plenty of places to go.
Cap
@@KelloTheArtist Unless you mean just chill then we go in the office or our storerooms.
@@TheSaintsfan16 yeah for actual chill areas… most the people E4 and below down chill in the office so they end up in the berthing hanging around
HTs rise up
ETR2 in the early 1960s
Very good video, but you didn’t even look into submarines my guy 😂
I don’t know anything about sub rates lol
Rate is your paygrade (E1 - E10). Rating is your job designator (HT, BM, FT, etc.) If you're going to do these videos use the correct terminology.
Why do all Navy RUclipsrs get rate and rating mixed up?
You're talking about ratings. Rate tefers to pay grade. You should know this.
---former OS 78,-83
I just took the asvab i qualified for bm which is a hell no lol
Os I’m leaning towards this
Ps
Yn
Rs
Ps or yn
@@keepit2urself164 i was told they don’t advance in rank like the os tho