Don't buy anything just yet. Let the dealers lose more money. They were pulling in record profits with added markups for the past year. They had better saved some of their money for a rainy day.
No wonder vehicle theft is up so much . I bought a 23 corolla cross and just make the payments with my pension etc. & live too. It is new and all I need. But certainly not a grand set of wheels.
@@William-Bill-Munnyunfortunately the other party thinks we can tariff and tax cut for the rich our way out of this 🥴🤪🤪🤪🤪. What a bunch of dumb dumbs.
@@peterk7662It isn't just tax cuts for the rich lol. Trumps tax cuts have lowered federal tax brackets for every American across every single and married income level. It was the largest tax cut in history other the Reagan. It's not hard to look up. Quit watching sheep media and you would know that your taxes were less from 2017 to now haha. His tax cuts are also about to expire, weird if they were so bad why didn't Biden get rid of those like he did every other thing Trump did? If Kamala gets in office you will regret voting for her haha. She will run this country so far into the ground.
I hope we all know that it doesn't matter who is in the 'top job' because this is a systemic problem -- greed. We have allowed many of our economic sectors, to take advantage of the American people. It's disgusting and frightening for the future of our country. My husband and I will be retiring in the next two years n another country. We are absolutely worried that SS! will no longer be funded. we'll have to rely on his pension, a 403 (b) and a very prolific Investment account with Stephanie Janis Stiefel my FA. Our national debt is bloating and expanding every month. Our government needs to get spending under control and cut the federal budget.
I know this lady you just mentioned. Stephanie Janis Stiefel is a portfolio manager and investment advisor. She gained recognition as an employee of neuberger berman; a renowned investor she is. Stephanie Janis Stiefel has demonstrated expertise in investment strategies and has been involved in managing portfolios and providing guidance to clients.
Stephanie Janis Stiefel hooked me up with a late-stage fund that got me in on private shares of some hot companies before they hit the market or blew up. Those investments totally paid off when the companies went public and their stocks shot up. Now, I'm stoked because I'm heading into retirement with almost a million bucks in my portfolio.
The local Toyota dealership called me last week to see if I was interested in trading in my 2021 Tacoma and getting into a new Tacoma. I told them no unless they put 2 more cylinders in it
Haha yeah dealers are clamoring for 3rd Gen Tacomas right now, values are up-ticking on them. A naturally aspirated V6 is the engine people want in their Toyota pickup. 👍 I could maybe use Your reinforcement in a top comment up above on that point.
@@TheBassSnatcher It offered more than any other when I was looking, for less, with a better warranty. And I don't experience GTA3 passing a truck just like it ever 2 miles. They did a terrible job marketing it. But a solid job making it. Works for me!
Auto dealers send me all kinds of mail, asking me if I'm interested in buying a vehicle at a discount price. I use it for toilet paper 🧻. I have a 2001 Lincoln Town Car, a 1987 f150 4x4, a 1984 Dodge Ram W100 4x4, 1993 Ford Bronco.
Keep on driving that thing. I and I'm sure a lot more people respect you for holding on. We need more people like you so car prices come down to reality
I was going to replace my '97 4 Runner and I refused to pay for the markups they had on the cars. I can easily wait for the 2025 models. I'm not that antsy about getting a new car.
Markets are hard to predict, either way I've been saving for almost 4 years for the car I want, I got my new Tacoma that was lightly used. Use the time to save more money bud, patients is key
Great points and for those who are young and dont understand inflation- in 2007 a LOADED Trd pro Tacoma would be $27k… 2017 ten years later it only jumped to $30k. TEN YEARS Now- in 2021 you could find most mid size trucks around $32k starting- only THREE years later you are paying the prices this mentions. $40k and up- that is RIDICULOUS!
In my opinion it still is NO buyers market. I am just hoping my 12' Altima that's been bulletproof in it's 13th year on the road can continue to be. Also bulletproof thus far has been my ORIGINAL CVT transmission.
They outsource the vehicles to other countries but they haven’t lowered the prices look at Toyota they raised prices. Let them suffer especially dealers n salespeople
it's just about to be october 2008 all over again...i just don't see any other way out but a large crash back to reality....overpriced food, insurance, automobiles, homes, stocks, etc., etc., etc.,
New normal. Prices are only going to keep going up. We haven't seen the last of the inflationary bubble. I'd suggest getting what your want/need now, because within a year or two it will have gone up significantly more.
I am so glad you calling out this problem we have. It’s about to time the manufacturers hear that Americans can’t afford and choose to not buy these over priced vehicles. If the buyer stops buying them the prices will drop.
Very unstable times we are living in today. As far as auto manufacturing is concerned I think the best thing manufacturers could do is to begin producing dependable vehicles with far less bells and whistles........get back to basics.
I’m going to call absolute bullshit on this video. M currently shopping for a used Tacoma and dealers are not budging. I went to a Nissan dealership to look at a 2019 Tacoma which they had priced at $33k. They told me out the door was $40 after dealer add ons and ttl. I have an 814 experian and $10k down and they let me walk after I offered $33k out the door. I’ve called probably 10 dealerships nationwide looking at 20 or 21 viidoo blue Tacoma and almost all have come back at 38-40k out the door and not 1 would budge. You’re simply making click bait at this point. Go try and buy and I promise they are not in panic mode.
Same. I'm not seeing much budging. In fact, took my wife's car for an oil change and inspection recently. While there they asked if I'd consider trading up. I listened. They didn't budge much at all on the car and the trade value they offered was a joke. No thanks. UM is right about INSURANCE COMPANIES ripping folks off. Something needs to seriously happen there for real! My insurance nearly doubled since last year WTF!! 🤬
I got $7k discount on tundra and they gave me $50k on my 2024 grand highlander that i paid $53k for it last December in NJ and still walked away i wanted $11k
For reference, 10 years ago 100k and up was big rig prices. 1800 a mouth was to pay the rig what the heck is a medium duty truck costing this much? What are we as a country doing?
I gotta say, the algorithm selected another good car channel. Great video with no music, to the point, and enough information that you could have made at least 3 videos out of. Don't forget how you grew this channel and don't change. 🤙
We own a couple 2-3k cars, paid in cash with $40 insurance and cheap to repair. Although we can afford to buy new i cannot imagine the $200-600 insurance premiums & car loans. Absolutely insane.
West Houston lexus/Toyota dealership are still charging market adjustment in different forms. Plus, they are hiding their cars in the back of the dealership and few cars are only at the front lot. Shame on them.
I thought $40k for a Tacoma was expensive, now between their prices and powertrain options I wouldnt touch em. Bring back the 3.4 Liter Naturally Aspirated Engine that thing was bulletproof!
I’m sorry man… but congrats on the raise nonetheless! Anything helps now days. I agree, it appears most vehicle manufacturers have priced their target demographic out of their markets. I don’t get it…
When covid was just starting I mentioned to my financial guy I would be buying a vehicle or 2 to replace my 20yr old car and a vehicle we had totaled in a wreck. He said buy now prices are going to get stupid... Ended up buying 3 Toyotas in next few months at or below MSPR, a Rav4, a tacoma and a Highlander. Picked up the rav4 literally the day the dealership was closing due to covid. They're all paid for and Now sitting back and watching this madness. The 2020 and 2021 tacomas for sale that are identical to mine with 40k miles are selling for within $500 of what mine was new. The new highlanders with same trim are $15k more the rav4 about 10k more.
Another excellent video. The chickens are coming home to roost. And yes, if we are going to pay inflated MSRPs, I would expect it to benefit American, not foreign workers.
I have said this for 5 years now.... flooring costs are why dealerships will go to new car delivery and repairs only. Nothing will sit on the lot for states to tax a dealership over and no more negotiations over price, every car will be a custom order. Let alone almost all people will live in a Bill Gates 15min city anyway. That way you don't need a car to burn dead dino's to fet around - electric buses and bicycles for the liberal utopia only. Well except fir the wealthy who will fly and drive cars because they can afford it. Let the New World Order Hunger Games begin!! it will be glorious!!
@@Ohh695 No he's absolutely right. Maybe it's you who should stop gorging on sleep pills. It's taking place: private vehicles for riches and cheap public transportation for the rest of us, low and middle class. It is written in the sky. Like it was at Versailles before the people cut the head of their king and queen. Or before they got rid of Tsar Nicolas II. History repeating.
Great Information and narration of what is now happening in the Market place. Worked for a FORD dealership in the RI area that is used to selling 350 to 450 cars New and Used a month. That's roughly about 4,500 to 4,800 cars a year, and rule of thumb was to make $2,500.00 per car in profit. $2,500.00 X 4,500 cars = $11,250,000 of Profit per year. During the pandemic this one dealership was making over $5,000.00 to $7,000.00 profit per vehicle. Multiply that $6,000.00 X 4,500 cars per year = $27,000,000 Million dollars Profit per year. Does not include there SERVICE Department cost per hour at $139.00 per hour. YES.......these owners of these dealerships were greedy and without morale's. There justification supply and demand. The economy and pendulum is again changing. GREAT Job on what is now happening in the marketplace.
@@rodmaloney5484 really appreciate that, thank you. Yeah many dealers showed their true colors during the pandemic… it’s a shame. Took advantage of customers left and right. =\
If the market is collapsing I don’t see it in my area, all the dealerships still want more then these vehicles are worth, they may advertise a discount but then they try to screw you with fees and unnecessary add ons when you get to the lot.
I asked three or four Honda dealers for a net price no-frills, no extras and only one gave me the Honda thousand dollar cash offer. The others still playing the old games wanting me to come in, sit down and take a drive. I told them it’s a toaster to me. Now I’m going to wait.
Yeah I find it so frustrating when all they want to do is trick you into coming into the dealership. Then you’re at their mercy… 🤮 Good call on waiting it out! 👌
Am with you brother! Am in the market for a new vehicle and thankful that the tables have turned! Zero brand loyalty and only request naturally aspirated and a sweet deal!!
Drove through a ford and a Chevy lot yesterday morning because I’m looking to trade up to a 250-2500. So many orange $XYZ off sticker specials on those trucks. They aren’t off enough to make me willing to make a move on one, because 10 grand off a truck that’s marked up 20-30 grand is still 10-20 grand too much for a truck.
Yeah it’s nearly impossible to juggle the modern cost of living, with mortgage/rent payments AND these astronomical vehicle payments… (plus insurance ugh). Something has got to give.
Great vid… look, it’s simple…we need to go back to a pre-pandemic car industry, car market conditions because what these greedy corporates are doing is completely backfiring on them, assembly line workers, dealerships…and the American consumers…we need to go back to quality made vehicles that truly equate to the amount of money/investment by the consumer…quality by way of again being made here in the US, not outside, fair pricing, reliable vehicles, traditional powertrain platform…because another reason US buyers aren’t buying these cars is because their purchase no longer supports American workers when car manufacturers outsource to poor countries where quality is apparently not a factor…at least according to…well…Gen 4 Tacoma owners..many who have posted vids showing their trucks made with cheaper materials, poor assembly quality, and at a price that just doesn’t make sense…especially when Toyota SAVES money on cheap, foreign labor pay…but instead of passing along savings to the consumers..like how other products, most of em made in China…are affordable because of foreign, cheap labor production…Toyota corporates jack the price up at ridiculous proportions….so yur paying what you can’t or barely can afford, and all your money is now getting you less vehicle because of poor quality, not to mention these ridiculous turbo platforms that “overdrive” these small displacement engines that are gonna have no chance at reaching 100k miles…so at this point, you’re basically throwing money out the window when in 10 years or less yur gonna need a new vehicle…it’s just a horrible time to buy a car, hands down!!! The $40k Frontier pickup, naturally aspirated 6 cyl 4x4 is exactly!!!’ EXACTLY what we need to go back to…the fact that dealerships are going broke because their inventory is sitting endlessly on lots, production jobs lost due to outsourcing and greedy corporate MSRPs causing brand new vehicles to basically rot because either we refuse to pay those ridiculous prices after all things mentioned above, or probably more frequently, people just can’t afford those prices…it’s just insane, never heard of consumer punishment as far as I’m concerned….it’s just more greed on top of already existing greed “laying waste”to middle Americans…and honestly, who wants a vehicle sitting on the lot for months on end, out in all the “elements”…do dealers even drive any of em to keep them in running condition?? who’s begun thinking Americans are stupid and will just simply say…after everything I just said above…” oh well, I’m gonna buy anyway” …🤷♂️…I guess if there are those who are gonna pay those prices anyways, greedy companies are gonna to continue to get away with those asking prices causing the major of us (middle Americans) to suffer without🫤
@@markcreamer3196 yes is that even a question? I have experience in both and naturally aspirated last longer because it doesn’t have a turbo that’s just another component that can fail and the turbos heat the engines hotter than naturally aspirated
Insurance is such a scam. We have all been tricked into thinking we need it. I hope in the next couple of years, the insurance industry gets taken down.
@CMBBmc-jd6ur Like my video games? I don't even play video games. What do you mean, how would that work? Are you aware by paying for tabs and insurance, you are renting your automobile and will never own it? Even if paid off. What, are you some insurance agent? Insurance is a scam and we don't need it. This country was never supposed to be run by big corporations while turned into a corporation known as US Inc. Insurance was only required for commercial use but as an American we have the right to travel. ITS. A SCAM!. Just like the wage tax
@AyaWetts No, actually, you don't need it. Difference between what's lawful and legal. All you need are z plates. You have the right to travel from point A to B unless you are operating in a commercial capacity. This is why its a scam because people don't know their rights and these agencies get your tacit agreement. This is why they are called "agents" like insurance agent, irs agent blah blah blah it's all bullshit to take money from American people. Insurance industries and the IRS all need to go bye bye and they will.
I’m going to get my 93 civic insured at one of those hole in the wall insurance companies that you see in plazas. State Farm has me at $175/mo for liability. Not a single thing negatively affecting besides driving 15k miles annually
@complex3106 Yea, I pay $178 a month. These insurance companies could charge people $20 a month and still be billionaires, yet they take our money. All about fear and greed.
I just rebuilt my vehicles, paintjob and all, I am into both for less than 20% the cost of new and now I have two fully renewed vehicles, one is even diesel.
I think Chevy’s latest 0% offer is for 36months not 72 and it’s either the low finance rate or cash on the hood not both. Just what I’m seeing on their website. Maybe the dealerships can combine offers if negotiated ??
Thanks for the video! I've had my eye on the Land Rover Defender 110. Do you think I will see these same types of discounts with that particular brand/vehicle? I've noticed they have inventory piling up but not publicly marking down new inventory on their websites.
Thanks Justin! I do. I think the Defender will see some price cuts between now and Feb. I’m seeing cuts on super desirable vehicles like Ford F150 Raptors, Ram TRXs, TRD Pro trims from Toyota. The Defender will get price cuts too -I’d be shocked if it didn’t.
Bought a 2024 4runner. Cars are getting more expensive. And they're going to continue to get more expensive, so I dont ever wanna buy another one again :)
just picked up my ranger raptor at MSRP and drove it off the lot past of a huge row of marked up new tacos and tundras just collecting dust at the dealer across the street. vote with your money people! Toyota has to learn this hard lesson, it's the only way they'll change.
The dealers were a little bit greedy and stupid, but the reason of the crazy price was Fed print too much money and use the US dollar as the weapon, now we are all suffering.
Before the collapse the used market needs to ease. The problem here is used cars are so expensive that dealers can get away with charging high prices for vehciles.
@@kurtbeck5809 it's not just CA it's everywhere. The problem is I was looking at a 7 year old vehicle and the price was over 30k. So I said no thanks and looking at a newer Honda Civic.
Yeah...that is crazy at 30k for a 7 year old vehicle depending on the model...unfortunately it seems like a complete new world now and not necessarily for the betterwhenitcomestocars@@xiondFirst
I agree. I believe that’s happening before our eyes now. Trade in values are crumbling… which will inadvertently impact the used market. It can’t happen fast enough though.
This kind of price gouge reporting is very important. Corporate greed is running rampant and yet so many people like to blame our political leaders. And they just voted in a friend to large corporations. Great move of America.
Sad thing is Toyota took the factory out of Texas and are now making the Tacoma In Mexico. So Toyota cut costs in manufacturing the trucks. But did Toyota pass the savings to the customers, NOPE ! They increased the cost around 30% which is crazy . I’m not paying over 50k for a midsize truck. And I’m not even going to start talking about the problems that the Tacoma has . 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
I only buy vehicles that are 10,000 or less. The past 20 years, I have spent less than 20,000.00 on vehicles, not including the repairs that added up to about 5000.00. People spend WAY TOO MUCH on cars and trucks.
In my area, dealers are still playing the low volume game and hiding the new inventory in smaller towns nearby. What a joke and greed, just unbelievable!
Some of this could very well change. There's a big game coming up on November 5th. The Patriots vs The Stealers Want better EVERYTHING? You know what to do.
that's mean the cost of production for single vehicle include R&D is way less the MSRP but manufactures want to make more profit and using inflation as their excuse
I work in auto sales and this last year was the hardest year I’ve had in any industry. People just expect you to discount 10-15% of the vehicle and dealers are still paying as if they had tons of mark up on these vehicles so the sales person ends up making no commission on 80% of his sales for the month
I don’t feel sorry for automakers or the dealerships. They went for the money and screwed the customers. Now they are getting screwed. Karma is a bitch
Unless that truck has a fridge a washer and dryer a bed and a toilet were never buying them I hope all dealerships go bankrupt no bailouts this time. Time for a reset
What's their overall value though? They are international corporations, their allegiance is to their investors. They couldn't care less if they sold a car as long as their stock value imcreases. Playing along with the government for incentives and avoiding penalties while globalists drive up stock values in exchange for embracing ESG policies. A company can make it's investors a lot of money before that model collapses then when it does the tax payers will bail them out. Corporatism is great isn't it.
What worries me is since they are not selling due to being overpriced, companies will stop producing the models we love stating decreased sales. They may stop producing LandCruiser, Bronco, Sequoia, and other off road focused vehicles.
Yeah that’s a great point to add 👌 My hope would be they’d offer the same vehicles but with less needless bells and whistles. More bare bones examples that are more purposeful for off roading.
Great informative video. One of your best I've seen. What was most stark was your Tundra TRD Pro priced less than the Tacoma TRD Pro. These turbos may not drive in a couple years, but it will drive a personal bankruptcy.
When people either can not or will not purchase then production decreases and prices eventually fall but perhaps not that much as they wait for demand to purchase the available inventory...depending on the severity a recession could loom in the background.
@@The-Jokes-on-You I work from home, my wife is retired, everything we need is with probably 2 miles of our house, including Dr's, dentists, groceries, everything. Most restaurants we can walk to. And we travel and are gone for probably 4 months of the year.
I have been shopping for a '24 or '25 new or used (less than 5k miles) Honda Passport Black Edition in a 500 mile radius of Atlanta since June. 10% below MSRP is relatively easy to negotiate but in many cases dealer add ons wipe most of the discount out. No better discounts offered on the new '24 models on the lot even with a '26 redesign expected the first part of next year. Low mileage used prices within $2k of new vehicles make them almost not worth buying even though they have the CPO warranty. In the case of new, I can't see paying the current asking price for a car with '19 technology that is about to be replaced with a new design, though there is something to be said about the current proven platform.
I just don't understand why anyone would pay $55K for a TRD Off-Road when they could get a Colorado ZR2 for $50K. Dual lockers... 33" tires... excellent shocks... aggressive looks. Other than the "bUt It'5 a t0yOta!!!" crowd, who in their right mind would pick the Tacoma?
Correct, I’m going to purchase either a ZR2 or a Frontier Pro 4x this coming February. Checked both out and I’m going to go with the one I can get the better deal on!!
The new reality that you speak of on Tacomas is due to the massive leap in equipment they are available with. Fully loaded Tacoma in 2021 was a $46,000 truck for a TRD Off Road Premium for example. That had leather, premium audio with 8in screen, heated seats, camera system and moon roof. Now that same trim level is equipped with premium audio, 14inch display, moonroof, softex, heated seats, cooled seats, improved crawl control and mts. I think the inflation is outrageous but it does need to be balanced against the increase in equipment availability on certain models as well.
@@craigadair128 yeah but you get that nissan v6 which is as sweet as a peach and the price is what it is because there's no getting around the extra manufacturing and material cost of building a V6 compared to an inline 4.
It’s not EVs. It’s Tech. LIDAR, emergency stop systems, android auto, screen costs, adaptive cruise, etc all have expensive sensors and motors to install, tune, and calibrate. Combine that with a car that’s designed to crumple and protect core versus being rugged when hit under 20 and totaling becomes a bigger thing. Also, negative equity will have people totaling their cars for GAP/insurance payouts vs selling them to get out.
A coworker just bought a 2024 TRD off road for $45k. I’ve talked to a few 2024 Tacoma owners, most of them paid $45k and this is in Hawaii, where the Tacoma is the state truck! lol! Dealers here can’t keep them on the lots, except for an SR5 or two.
That’s wild to hear… perks of having a microcosm economy I suppose? That is absolutely not the case on the mainland. They’re lining up on every lot. Nobody wants them.
@@UntamedMotors yeah, I’ve only seen TRD off roads and SR5’s, no Pro’s or Trailhunters. I’ve seen more new Nissan Frontiers on the road, more than before. Btw everything else in Hawaii is $$$$$$, food, rent, fuel, basic household stuff………
Bought my 2015 Tacoma DCLB through private party for the V6 4.0 and slightly overpaid (20k with 90k miles) but it was my dream Tacoma as I have always wanted a 2.5 gen. I Walked around the Toyota lot during my maintenance appointment and seeing the prices of new ones made me feel so much better about my purchase, these prices on 4 banger tacos should be a crime lol
Let them pile up.... need 50% discount....
%50 not enough. We need %80-90 off and %1-2 APR.
Yep!
LOLOLOL! You probably still wouldn’t buy! 🤣
That’s unlikely
GM would get a bailout before GM lets the price of their trucks to drop that much.
It is absolutely not a buyers market. $7k off a $104k vehicle is trash. Let em go out of business
They won't, I'm sure they will get taxpayer funded bailouts....
That’s exactly what I was thinking
Yeah i could care less about new cars.
$10K off when they were $25K up. Still getting screwed.
They think it's a deal, too, when we CLEARLY remember the before prices.
They are marked up 50% by the dealers..I know..
Don't buy anything just yet. Let the dealers lose more money. They were pulling in record profits with added markups for the past year. They had better saved some of their money for a rainy day.
@@Rhaspun Let the rainy days continue for the next two years!!! No demand will make the supply selling prices go down. LOL😆😅🤣😂
@@mikeautry2271
Evidently, you don’t know !!!
Even $10k is absolutely not enough. That’s literally a joke!
Exactly
They barely covers the dealer mark ups lol
Absolutely lol tell me when the actual car is under 9k
Yeah we’re comfortably 30-50% overpriced in most cases. It’s ridiculous…
Stellantis does that. Ask a crazy price/ then drop it 30%.
And you, the Schmuck, think's you got a great deal.
Yikes.
Screw all these dealerships and automakers.
Most are just focused on one thing… and one thing only. Money! =\
dealers dont make the price man
No wonder vehicle theft is up so much .
I bought a 23 corolla cross and just make the payments with my pension etc. & live too.
It is new and all I need. But certainly not a grand set of wheels.
It’s nit the dealerships it’s the manufacturers, I’ve seen invoices on brand new Toyotas as well as Mercedes and they aren’t much
The price of everything doubled while salaries increased 2-4%. But we're supposed to be buying everything as usual 🤪
... and your supposed to keep voting democrat too😂😅😂🤪
Yepp Georgia Pacific union negotiatioer told the union it's a 3% world that's all your going to get as a raise what a joke corporate greed scum bags
@@William-Bill-Munnyunfortunately the other party thinks we can tariff and tax cut for the rich our way out of this 🥴🤪🤪🤪🤪. What a bunch of dumb dumbs.
@@peterk7662It isn't just tax cuts for the rich lol. Trumps tax cuts have lowered federal tax brackets for every American across every single and married income level. It was the largest tax cut in history other the Reagan. It's not hard to look up. Quit watching sheep media and you would know that your taxes were less from 2017 to now haha. His tax cuts are also about to expire, weird if they were so bad why didn't Biden get rid of those like he did every other thing Trump did? If Kamala gets in office you will regret voting for her haha. She will run this country so far into the ground.
@@peterk7662Yes, the dems are dumb dumbs. Glad you agree. 🙂
I hope we all know that it doesn't matter who is in the 'top job' because this is a systemic problem -- greed. We have allowed many of our economic sectors, to take advantage of the American people. It's disgusting and frightening for the future of our country. My husband and I will be retiring in the next two years n another country. We are absolutely worried that SS! will no longer be funded. we'll have to rely on his pension, a 403 (b) and a very prolific Investment account with Stephanie Janis Stiefel my FA. Our national debt is bloating and expanding every month. Our government needs to get spending under control and cut the federal budget.
I know this lady you just mentioned. Stephanie Janis Stiefel is a portfolio manager and investment advisor. She gained recognition as an employee of neuberger berman; a renowned investor she is. Stephanie Janis Stiefel has demonstrated expertise in investment strategies and has been involved in managing portfolios and providing guidance to clients.
I plan on moving to Thailand. Wbu?
My new American Dream is to leave.
Housing costs, medical costs, and the IRS are three of the big reasons that make it so.
Stephanie Janis Stiefel hooked me up with a late-stage fund that got me in on private shares of some hot companies before they hit the market or blew up. Those investments totally paid off when the companies went public and their stocks shot up. Now, I'm stoked because I'm heading into retirement with almost a million bucks in my portfolio.
How can i reach her, if you don't mind me asking?
The local Toyota dealership called me last week to see if I was interested in trading in my 2021 Tacoma and getting into a new Tacoma. I told them no unless they put 2 more cylinders in it
The local Nissan store still sends me mailers on my 18 Titan lol. Like what am I gonna replace a paid off truck with? GTFO lol. Love that truck.
Haha yeah dealers are clamoring for 3rd Gen Tacomas right now, values are up-ticking on them. A naturally aspirated V6 is the engine people want in their Toyota pickup. 👍 I could maybe use
Your reinforcement in a top comment up above on that point.
@@J.Wick.cause it’s a Nissan titan lol 😂
@@TheBassSnatcher It offered more than any other when I was looking, for less, with a better warranty. And I don't experience GTA3 passing a truck just like it ever 2 miles. They did a terrible job marketing it. But a solid job making it. Works for me!
Auto dealers send me all kinds of mail, asking me if I'm interested in buying a vehicle at a discount price. I use it for toilet paper 🧻. I have a 2001 Lincoln Town Car, a 1987 f150 4x4, a 1984 Dodge Ram W100 4x4, 1993 Ford Bronco.
Funny that the discount prices they’re giving should have been the original selling price in the first place. What a joke these dealers are.
The manufacturer sets the price not the dealers
Marking something up 30% and then offering 10% off is still not a good deal.
Stealerships
@@williamrose7184#Bigfacts!!!!!!!!!!
That’s a fact. 👌
U told me to hold off until last May for big deals. Well, I'm still driving my old car.
Keep on driving that thing. I and I'm sure a lot more people respect you for holding on. We need more people like you so car prices come down to reality
We gonna be driving beaters for a long time......
I was going to replace my '97 4 Runner and I refused to pay for the markups they had on the cars. I can easily wait for the 2025 models. I'm not that antsy about getting a new car.
Cost of vehicles have consistently fell over the last 12 months. It’ll keep falling. 👍
Markets are hard to predict, either way I've been saving for almost 4 years for the car I want, I got my new Tacoma that was lightly used. Use the time to save more money bud, patients is key
14:41 I remember when I thought $700 heavy duty truck payments were nuts. Now people pay that for crossovers! 🙄
Haha right!? Is that absolutely insane? Smh
lol I got quoted 1200 month payment and that just took the taste of buying a new car right out lol I’ll stick to my payoff cars ha
Great points and for those who are young and dont understand inflation- in 2007 a LOADED Trd pro Tacoma would be $27k… 2017 ten years later it only jumped to $30k.
TEN YEARS
Now- in 2021 you could find most mid size trucks around $32k starting- only THREE years later you are paying the prices this mentions.
$40k and up- that is RIDICULOUS!
In my opinion it still is NO buyers market. I am just hoping my 12' Altima that's been bulletproof in it's 13th year on the road can continue to be. Also bulletproof thus far has been my ORIGINAL CVT transmission.
Definitely keep it going, I think 2011 and 2012s are the best years.
Dang! Original CVT?
@@mathewrichards2713 am up to about 150k and my son has been using it for a while, no CVT issues. Maybe cause he has a lighter right foot lol
Just keep servicing the Cvt fluid and it will last.
We are at 182000 km on our 15 Altima. CVT fluid changes every 50k no issues so far
They outsource the vehicles to other countries but they haven’t lowered the prices look at Toyota they raised prices. Let them suffer especially dealers n salespeople
I know right!? Just a greedy cash grab to take advantage of Americans. Smh
it's just about to be october 2008 all over again...i just don't see any other way out but a large crash back to reality....overpriced food, insurance, automobiles, homes, stocks, etc., etc., etc.,
Even used cars and trucks with over 200k miles are selling well over $10k on market place lol its ridiculous!
Haha we’re living in a Twilight Zone… smh
New normal. Prices are only going to keep going up. We haven't seen the last of the inflationary bubble. I'd suggest getting what your want/need now, because within a year or two it will have gone up significantly more.
I am so glad you calling out this problem we have. It’s about to time the manufacturers hear that Americans can’t afford and choose to not buy these over priced vehicles. If the buyer stops buying them the prices will drop.
Thanks brother. Agreed, people need to vote with their pocketbooks. 👌
Very unstable times we are living in today. As far as auto manufacturing is concerned I think the best thing manufacturers could do is to begin producing dependable vehicles with far less bells and whistles........get back to basics.
They can't produce those. If they did they would sell a vehicle every 20 years or so. The way they are making them now they can sell one every 10.
@@MechE11B What's your recommendation ?
They will never make that they want u too keep buying every couple years but the vehicles they make are junk and over priced
Couldn’t agree more. We need simplicity, affordability and most important… reliability. 👌 💯
They can, but they won't, because where's the profit in that?
I’m going to call absolute bullshit on this video. M currently shopping for a used Tacoma and dealers are not budging. I went to a Nissan dealership to look at a 2019 Tacoma which they had priced at $33k. They told me out the door was $40 after dealer add ons and ttl. I have an 814 experian and $10k down and they let me walk after I offered $33k out the door. I’ve called probably 10 dealerships nationwide looking at 20 or 21 viidoo blue Tacoma and almost all have come back at 38-40k out the door and not 1 would budge. You’re simply making click bait at this point. Go try and buy and I promise they are not in panic mode.
Same here man...these dealers don't give af about losing money. They are not budging im actually in Miami and have a pretty solid fico 8 too.
Same. I'm not seeing much budging. In fact, took my wife's car for an oil change and inspection recently. While there they asked if I'd consider trading up. I listened. They didn't budge much at all on the car and the trade value they offered was a joke. No thanks. UM is right about INSURANCE COMPANIES ripping folks off. Something needs to seriously happen there for real! My insurance nearly doubled since last year WTF!! 🤬
Try Avondale Toyota in Arizona. They never sold over MSRP during pandemic. But with used inventory I am not sure.
I got $7k discount on tundra and they gave me $50k on my 2024 grand highlander that i paid $53k for it last December in NJ and still walked away i wanted $11k
U are 100% correct. It will never be a buyers market until people stop buying cars.
For reference, 10 years ago 100k and up was big rig prices. 1800 a mouth was to pay the rig what the heck is a medium duty truck costing this much? What are we as a country doing?
Ikr!? It’s gotten completely out of hand… =\
We are a county in decline. We don't produce things anymore. Simply consuming using debt.
Exactly 💯
Still rocking my PAID OFF 2015 Toyota Sequoia, and will for some time with these crazy prices . . .
Hey the BEST type of vehicle is a paid off vehicle 👌 💯
So glad I bought my made in Mexico Ford Maverick last year! Only 7 more years of payments and it's mine baby!
7 years... ouch... so sorry.
I gotta say, the algorithm selected another good car channel. Great video with no music, to the point, and enough information that you could have made at least 3 videos out of. Don't forget how you grew this channel and don't change. 🤙
I really appreciate it brother
@@UntamedMotors Same thing for me. Completely unexpected in my algorithm but this is some gold. Keep it going @untamedmotors!
@@vs5617 that’s super nice to hear, thank you. 🙏 I’ll try not to let you down with future videos! =]
It can't crash enough
Aim that the truth… =\
We own a couple 2-3k cars, paid in cash with $40 insurance and cheap to repair. Although we can afford to buy new i cannot imagine the $200-600 insurance premiums & car loans. Absolutely insane.
Very well done! One of the best on car lot explainations of the car industry. Very confident in your presentation of the facts!
Thank you for the kind words -although I am faaar from the best. Really appreciate your support!
West Houston lexus/Toyota dealership are still charging market adjustment in different forms. Plus, they are hiding their cars in the back of the dealership and few cars are only at the front lot. Shame on them.
That’s just pathetic… greedy dealers never learn.
Yeah I’m in Houston to they are not moving on prices
I thought $40k for a Tacoma was expensive, now between their prices and powertrain options I wouldnt touch em. Bring back the 3.4 Liter Naturally Aspirated Engine that thing was bulletproof!
I couldn’t agree more. 👌 💯
I’m keeping my perfectly running jeep till it’s totally worn out. No payment low taxes. I walk through the truck lots and laugh at the prices.
That’s a smart move. 💯
Very Good! I will subscribe. Good education and information.
Really appreciate your support, thank you! 🙏
Been at my job for the last two years. Just got my first 5% raise on Friday. Physically cannot afford these vehicles.
I’m sorry man… but congrats on the raise nonetheless! Anything helps now days. I agree, it appears most vehicle manufacturers have priced their target demographic out of their markets. I don’t get it…
When covid was just starting I mentioned to my financial guy I would be buying a vehicle or 2 to replace my 20yr old car and a vehicle we had totaled in a wreck. He said buy now prices are going to get stupid...
Ended up buying 3 Toyotas in next few months at or below MSPR, a Rav4, a tacoma and a Highlander. Picked up the rav4 literally the day the dealership was closing due to covid.
They're all paid for and
Now sitting back and watching this madness.
The 2020 and 2021 tacomas for sale that are identical to mine with 40k miles are selling for within $500 of what mine was new.
The new highlanders with same trim are $15k more the rav4 about 10k more.
Another excellent video. The chickens are coming home to roost. And yes, if we are going to pay inflated MSRPs, I would expect it to benefit American, not foreign workers.
Thanks for the kind words brother! I really appreciate the support! 🙏
Agreed from the previous commoner.. been marked up over 50% since 2018.. let them pile up. Walk away greed.
I have said this for 5 years now.... flooring costs are why dealerships will go to new car delivery and repairs only. Nothing will sit on the lot for states to tax a dealership over and no more negotiations over price, every car will be a custom order. Let alone almost all people will live in a Bill Gates 15min city anyway. That way you don't need a car to burn dead dino's to fet around - electric buses and bicycles for the liberal utopia only. Well except fir the wealthy who will fly and drive cars because they can afford it. Let the New World Order Hunger Games begin!! it will be glorious!!
And free phones for all.
@@pilotwhaleonly the fanciest tracking devices for us plebs
We’re being poisoned to death every single day on top of that.
Grandpa forgot his meds
@@Ohh695 No he's absolutely right. Maybe it's you who should stop gorging on sleep pills. It's taking place: private vehicles for riches and cheap public transportation for the rest of us, low and middle class. It is written in the sky. Like it was at Versailles before the people cut the head of their king and queen. Or before they got rid of Tsar Nicolas II. History repeating.
Great Information and narration of what is now happening in the Market place.
Worked for a FORD dealership in the RI area that is used to selling 350 to 450 cars New and Used a month. That's roughly about 4,500 to 4,800 cars a year, and rule of thumb was to make $2,500.00 per car in profit. $2,500.00 X 4,500 cars = $11,250,000 of Profit per year.
During the pandemic this one dealership was making over $5,000.00 to $7,000.00 profit per vehicle. Multiply that $6,000.00 X 4,500 cars per year = $27,000,000 Million dollars Profit per year. Does not include there SERVICE Department cost per hour at $139.00 per hour.
YES.......these owners of these dealerships were greedy and without morale's. There justification supply and demand. The economy and pendulum is again changing. GREAT Job on what is now happening in the marketplace.
@@rodmaloney5484 really appreciate that, thank you. Yeah many dealers showed their true colors during the pandemic… it’s a shame. Took advantage of customers left and right. =\
If the market is collapsing I don’t see it in my area, all the dealerships still want more then these vehicles are worth, they may advertise a discount but then they try to screw you with fees and unnecessary add ons when you get to the lot.
I just impeccably maintain my 96 Tacoma and it continues to serve me well..
Nice! Good call man. I’d do the same.
I asked three or four Honda dealers for a net price no-frills, no extras and only one gave me the Honda thousand dollar cash offer. The others still playing the old games wanting me to come in, sit down and take a drive. I told them it’s a toaster to me. Now I’m going to wait.
Yeah I find it so frustrating when all they want to do is trick you into coming into the dealership. Then you’re at their mercy… 🤮 Good call on waiting it out! 👌
you gained a subscriber, please keep up these nice videos
Thanks a ton for the support! I sincerely appreciate it. =]
Am with you brother! Am in the market for a new vehicle and thankful that the tables have turned! Zero brand loyalty and only request naturally aspirated and a sweet deal!!
Drove through a ford and a Chevy lot yesterday morning because I’m looking to trade up to a 250-2500. So many orange $XYZ off sticker specials on those trucks. They aren’t off enough to make me willing to make a move on one, because 10 grand off a truck that’s marked up 20-30 grand is still 10-20 grand too much for a truck.
Yeah prices have just completely out of hand… not even realistic anymore. Good call on holding off. More cuts to come I’d argue. 👌
Just ask them your actual trade in value you will find they pay nothing and want over MSRP
MSRP is the CEILING, not the floor. Dealerships have lost their minds.
100,000 Grand for "any" Vehicle is rediculous, who in their right 🧠 would pay that ? Wishful thinking on the Dealers part. My personal views.
Yeah it’s nearly impossible to juggle the modern cost of living, with mortgage/rent payments AND these astronomical vehicle payments… (plus insurance ugh). Something has got to give.
Great vid… look, it’s simple…we need to go back to a pre-pandemic car industry, car market conditions because what these greedy corporates are doing is completely backfiring on them, assembly line workers, dealerships…and the American consumers…we need to go back to quality made vehicles that truly equate to the amount of money/investment by the consumer…quality by way of again being made here in the US, not outside, fair pricing, reliable vehicles, traditional powertrain platform…because another reason US buyers aren’t buying these cars is because their purchase no longer supports American workers when car manufacturers outsource to poor countries where quality is apparently not a factor…at least according to…well…Gen 4 Tacoma owners..many who have posted vids showing their trucks made with cheaper materials, poor assembly quality, and at a price that just doesn’t make sense…especially when Toyota SAVES money on cheap, foreign labor pay…but instead of passing along savings to the consumers..like how other products, most of em made in China…are affordable because of foreign, cheap labor production…Toyota corporates jack the price up at ridiculous proportions….so yur paying what you can’t or barely can afford, and all your money is now getting you less vehicle because of poor quality, not to mention these ridiculous turbo platforms that “overdrive” these small displacement engines that are gonna have no chance at reaching 100k miles…so at this point, you’re basically throwing money out the window when in 10 years or less yur gonna need a new vehicle…it’s just a horrible time to buy a car, hands down!!! The $40k Frontier pickup, naturally aspirated 6 cyl 4x4 is exactly!!!’ EXACTLY what we need to go back to…the fact that dealerships are going broke because their inventory is sitting endlessly on lots, production jobs lost due to outsourcing and greedy corporate MSRPs causing brand new vehicles to basically rot because either we refuse to pay those ridiculous prices after all things mentioned above, or probably more frequently, people just can’t afford those prices…it’s just insane, never heard of consumer punishment as far as I’m concerned….it’s just more greed on top of already existing greed “laying waste”to middle Americans…and honestly, who wants a vehicle sitting on the lot for months on end, out in all the “elements”…do dealers even drive any of em to keep them in running condition?? who’s begun thinking Americans are stupid and will just simply say…after everything I just said above…” oh well, I’m gonna buy anyway” …🤷♂️…I guess if there are those who are gonna pay those prices anyways, greedy companies are gonna to continue to get away with those asking prices causing the major of us (middle Americans) to suffer without🫤
Thanks brother! Well said! Thank you for sharing. 💯
Let’s have a moment of silence for all of those poor saps who bought four-cylinder turbos lol
Is naturally aspirated better than turbos for reliability and longevity?
@@markcreamer3196 yes is that even a question? I have experience in both and naturally aspirated last longer because it doesn’t have a turbo that’s just another component that can fail and the turbos heat the engines hotter than naturally aspirated
Appreciate the knowledge. Wish I could bring you along next time I visit a dealership😂
Haha you’re always welcome to message me on Instagram if you’d like me to me to weigh in on your deal.
When prices drop by a full zero ... or 90 percent down, it will be a balanced market. 😅
Haha yeah even with these “large” discounts it still feels like we are far off from where we should be. 🤷♂️
Thanks for all the content, time and info!
Insurance is such a scam. We have all been tricked into thinking we need it. I hope in the next couple of years, the insurance industry gets taken down.
@CMBBmc-jd6ur Like my video games? I don't even play video games. What do you mean, how would that work? Are you aware by paying for tabs and insurance, you are renting your automobile and will never own it? Even if paid off. What, are you some insurance agent? Insurance is a scam and we don't need it. This country was never supposed to be run by big corporations while turned into a corporation known as US Inc. Insurance was only required for commercial use but as an American we have the right to travel. ITS. A SCAM!. Just like the wage tax
Thinking we need it? In most areas its illegal to drive without it. We do need it... its forced on us by law.
@AyaWetts No, actually, you don't need it. Difference between what's lawful and legal. All you need are z plates. You have the right to travel from point A to B unless you are operating in a commercial capacity. This is why its a scam because people don't know their rights and these agencies get your tacit agreement. This is why they are called "agents" like insurance agent, irs agent blah blah blah it's all bullshit to take money from American people. Insurance industries and the IRS all need to go bye bye and they will.
I’m going to get my 93 civic insured at one of those hole in the wall insurance companies that you see in plazas. State Farm has me at $175/mo for liability. Not a single thing negatively affecting besides driving 15k miles annually
@complex3106 Yea, I pay $178 a month. These insurance companies could charge people $20 a month and still be billionaires, yet they take our money. All about fear and greed.
I just rebuilt my vehicles, paintjob and all, I am into both for less than 20% the cost of new and now I have two fully renewed vehicles, one is even diesel.
That sounds like it’d be fun. You’d certainly take much more pride in driving them. 👌 💯
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Great!! Video brother. Thank you.
@@LeviAllen thanks for the kind feedback man! 🙏
I think Chevy’s latest 0% offer is for 36months not 72 and it’s either the low finance rate or cash on the hood not both. Just what I’m seeing on their website. Maybe the dealerships can combine offers if negotiated ??
Thanks for the video! I've had my eye on the Land Rover Defender 110. Do you think I will see these same types of discounts with that particular brand/vehicle? I've noticed they have inventory piling up but not publicly marking down new inventory on their websites.
Thanks Justin! I do. I think the Defender will see some price cuts between now and Feb. I’m seeing cuts on super desirable vehicles like Ford F150 Raptors, Ram TRXs, TRD Pro trims from Toyota. The Defender will get price cuts too -I’d be shocked if it didn’t.
The number one selling car in a 45 day period is already the 2024 4Runner. Prices up ridiculously and quality is slightly down smh
I am getting a 2024 4runner this month.
I agree. I applied for a 40k car loan from pnc with pretty good credit was denied.
Bought a 2024 4runner. Cars are getting more expensive. And they're going to continue to get more expensive, so I dont ever wanna buy another one again :)
You bought the right one to keep forever 👌 💯 good call!
What trim and what was the out the door price?
@@andoarizy325 trd pro 57.3k before tax
that neutered trd pro line caught me off guard! so true!
Best automotive content on RUclips! Keep it coming
Disagree. In my opinion the Car Car Nut videos are by far the best. You get total honesty.
just picked up my ranger raptor at MSRP and drove it off the lot past of a huge row of marked up new tacos and tundras just collecting dust at the dealer across the street. vote with your money people! Toyota has to learn this hard lesson, it's the only way they'll change.
Couldn’t agree more 👌
Congrats on the new Ranger Raptor! Great choice.
The dealers were a little bit greedy and stupid, but the reason of the crazy price was Fed print too much money and use the US dollar as the weapon, now we are all suffering.
Yeah that is certainly an originating problem of all this. Nearly impossible for us to dig ourselves out of this mess… =\
Happily keeping my 2020 trd sport! Still runs great.
Last of the trusty naturally aspirated platforms 👌 💯 Good call!
Before the collapse the used market needs to ease. The problem here is used cars are so expensive that dealers can get away with charging high prices for vehciles.
Supply and demand but a used vehicle or less expensive vehicle has cheaper insurance which is crazy now here in CA
@@kurtbeck5809 it's not just CA it's everywhere. The problem is I was looking at a 7 year old vehicle and the price was over 30k. So I said no thanks and looking at a newer Honda Civic.
Yeah...that is crazy at 30k for a 7 year old vehicle depending on the model...unfortunately it seems like a complete new world now and not necessarily for the betterwhenitcomestocars@@xiondFirst
I agree. I believe that’s happening before our eyes now. Trade in values are crumbling… which will inadvertently impact the used market. It can’t happen fast enough though.
This kind of price gouge reporting is very important. Corporate greed is running rampant and yet so many people like to blame our political leaders. And they just voted in a friend to large corporations. Great move of America.
Sad thing is Toyota took the factory out of Texas and are now making the Tacoma In Mexico. So Toyota cut costs in manufacturing the trucks. But did Toyota pass the savings to the customers, NOPE ! They increased the cost around 30% which is crazy . I’m not paying over 50k for a midsize truck. And I’m not even going to start talking about the problems that the Tacoma has . 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
100% it’s quite saddening…. And makes zero sense. You’re not alone on thinking that.
Love these videos!
And I work for a Toyota dealer ship in Texas, as a car salesman!
@@TheBassSnatcher haha nice! Thanks a ton for the support man, appreciate you!
I only buy vehicles that are 10,000 or less. The past 20 years, I have spent less than 20,000.00 on vehicles, not including the repairs that added up to about 5000.00. People spend WAY TOO MUCH on cars and trucks.
That’s a smart move 👌
Couldn’t agree more. Prices have lost touch with reality.
You sir are very lucky I tried that and spent why to much money. The repairs add up quick. Along with down time to pull it apart and fixed it.
Nice job thanks for all the useful information 👍🏼
I really the kind words and support, thank you! 🙏
And you forget one othet element to this crisis; Millions & Millions of recalls!!! What happened to quality control???
They replaced the quality control with higher prices. 😂
@@The_Real_Indiana_Joe Too funny & too sad!😩
Agreed! They’re clearly more focused on pumping out massive amounts of trash versus a controlled amount of quality products. 🤷♂️
They'll know the power of THE people. If there is no demand, they'll have to drop those crazy prices.
Keep seeing this rhetoric about "car prices are dropping". Haven't seen it yet
Clickbait. People feel the need to complain and vent their frustrations. These videos serve that need. Fake optimism.
In my area, dealers are still playing the low volume game and hiding the new inventory in smaller towns nearby. What a joke and greed, just unbelievable!
Man that is just pathetic… whatever it takes to take advantage of customers! Smh
Some of this could very well change. There's a big game coming up on November 5th.
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@@222aint Thank you !
that's mean the cost of production for single vehicle include R&D is way less the MSRP but manufactures want to make more profit and using inflation as their excuse
Blame our laws that force car manufacturers to produce bunk new products!
I work in auto sales and this last year was the hardest year I’ve had in any industry. People just expect you to discount 10-15% of the vehicle and dealers are still paying as if they had tons of mark up on these vehicles so the sales person ends up making no commission on 80% of his sales for the month
I don’t feel sorry for automakers or the dealerships. They went for the money and screwed the customers. Now they are getting screwed. Karma is a bitch
Amen to that brother. Only the dealers that didn’t fall victim to markups during the last few years can look themselves in the mirror now. 👌
Unless that truck has a fridge a washer and dryer a bed and a toilet were never buying them I hope all dealerships go bankrupt no bailouts this time. Time for a reset
Haha right!?
It does seem like many vehicle manufacturers are just carrying on with a bailout blanket wrapped around them huh?
I’m not seeing this in SoCal. I’ve been shopping and I’m not seeing price drops, apr drops or a lot of inventory. Dealers are holding on tight
The market would change overnight if the price was dropped by 30% . But I guess they don’t want to sell anything.
Yep. Greed is a powerful thing… =\
What's their overall value though? They are international corporations, their allegiance is to their investors. They couldn't care less if they sold a car as long as their stock value imcreases. Playing along with the government for incentives and avoiding penalties while globalists drive up stock values in exchange for embracing ESG policies. A company can make it's investors a lot of money before that model collapses then when it does the tax payers will bail them out. Corporatism is great isn't it.
What worries me is since they are not selling due to being overpriced, companies will stop producing the models we love stating decreased sales. They may stop producing LandCruiser, Bronco, Sequoia, and other off road focused vehicles.
Yeah that’s a great point to add 👌
My hope would be they’d offer the same vehicles but with less needless bells and whistles. More bare bones examples that are more purposeful for off roading.
No person ever has said "Have 4 kids, it will be fun."
one is a lot of work , best when they move out and no longer on the payroll
Fun making them
Haha yeah you might be right about that lol 😆
Great informative video. One of your best I've seen. What was most stark was your Tundra TRD Pro priced less than the Tacoma TRD Pro. These turbos may not drive in a couple years, but it will drive a personal bankruptcy.
Crazy that you can get a full size truck from another brand for the same price as a Tacoma.
Tacoma lovers will buy one regardless, you must own what you want to be satisfied 😅
I’m with you on the pay increase. I’ve just been fixing on the car I have, thank god it’s just a Honda accord. I can hold out till prices decrease.
I wonder if the truck prices are so high because our dollars so weak
When people either can not or will not purchase then production decreases and prices eventually fall but perhaps not that much as they wait for demand to purchase the available inventory...depending on the severity a recession could loom in the background.
My wife's 2016 has 30K miles on it. My 2018 has 36K. See ya'll in like 15 years lol.
What cars?
How do you drive that little? Crazy!🤯
@@The-Jokes-on-You I work from home, my wife is retired, everything we need is with probably 2 miles of our house, including Dr's, dentists, groceries, everything. Most restaurants we can walk to. And we travel and are gone for probably 4 months of the year.
@Ahmadaly7777 My wife has BMW convertible and I have a Mazda CX-5.
@bigdogpete43 Good on you! I wish I could keep that kind of mileage on my vehicles .
Been car shipping for 1 year. Prices down but still not enough it's ridiculous!
@@ReeseMalott1976 yeah we still need to see another 25-30% drop imo 👌
The automobile market is crazy. Not affordable. TRUMP 2024 USA ❤
I have been shopping for a '24 or '25 new or used (less than 5k miles) Honda Passport Black Edition in a 500 mile radius of Atlanta since June. 10% below MSRP is relatively easy to negotiate but in many cases dealer add ons wipe most of the discount out. No better discounts offered on the new '24 models on the lot even with a '26 redesign expected the first part of next year. Low mileage used prices within $2k of new vehicles make them almost not worth buying even though they have the CPO warranty. In the case of new, I can't see paying the current asking price for a car with '19 technology that is about to be replaced with a new design, though there is something to be said about the current proven platform.
I just don't understand why anyone would pay $55K for a TRD Off-Road when they could get a Colorado ZR2 for $50K. Dual lockers... 33" tires... excellent shocks... aggressive looks. Other than the "bUt It'5 a t0yOta!!!" crowd, who in their right mind would pick the Tacoma?
Correct, I’m going to purchase either a ZR2 or a Frontier Pro 4x this coming February. Checked both out and I’m going to go with the one I can get the better deal on!!
Frontier is the best truck midsize truck now that Toyota went with a V4
Wouldn’t buy either one. GM junk too
@@blackhouse7646 whats a v4?
@@RonWeber-t9y what’s your choice?
The new reality that you speak of on Tacomas is due to the massive leap in equipment they are available with. Fully loaded Tacoma in 2021 was a $46,000 truck for a TRD Off Road Premium for example. That had leather, premium audio with 8in screen, heated seats, camera system and moon roof. Now that same trim level is equipped with premium audio, 14inch display, moonroof, softex, heated seats, cooled seats, improved crawl control and mts. I think the inflation is outrageous but it does need to be balanced against the increase in equipment availability on certain models as well.
Let see Tacomas hit $25,000 again!
Only on the used market.
toyota is really making the 2025 nissan frontier look like a good deal right now
@@jordanimatedstreaming they have gone up a lot in price as well
@@craigadair128 yeah but you get that nissan v6 which is as sweet as a peach and the price is what it is because there's no getting around the extra manufacturing and material cost of building a V6 compared to an inline 4.
As much as my 03 Marauder hurts at the pump, i know it has me covered until the frame rots out. Still baffling how backwards vehicle design has gotten
Same with my grand marquis.
Electric vehicles have driven insurance prices up tremendously.
It’s not EVs. It’s Tech. LIDAR, emergency stop systems, android auto, screen costs, adaptive cruise, etc all have expensive sensors and motors to install, tune, and calibrate. Combine that with a car that’s designed to crumple and protect core versus being rugged when hit under 20 and totaling becomes a bigger thing.
Also, negative equity will have people totaling their cars for GAP/insurance payouts vs selling them to get out.
A coworker just bought a 2024 TRD off road for $45k. I’ve talked to a few 2024 Tacoma owners, most of them paid $45k and this is in Hawaii, where the Tacoma is the state truck! lol! Dealers here can’t keep them on the lots, except for an SR5 or two.
That’s wild to hear… perks of having a microcosm economy I suppose? That is absolutely not the case on the mainland. They’re lining up on every lot. Nobody wants them.
@@UntamedMotors yeah, I’ve only seen TRD off roads and SR5’s, no Pro’s or Trailhunters. I’ve seen more new Nissan Frontiers on the road, more than before. Btw everything else in Hawaii is $$$$$$, food, rent, fuel, basic household stuff………
First!
Bought my 2015 Tacoma DCLB through private party for the V6 4.0 and slightly overpaid (20k with 90k miles) but it was my dream Tacoma as I have always wanted a 2.5 gen. I Walked around the Toyota lot during my maintenance appointment and seeing the prices of new ones made me feel so much better about my purchase, these prices on 4 banger tacos should be a crime lol