TTArtisans 17mm f/1.4 ASPH lens review with samples
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- Опубликовано: 30 май 2021
- Another very low budget, very bright aperture Chinese manual focus lens. Some are better than others, and they can certainly be useful - let's see how this one fares.
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Great review! One of the great things about the TTArtisans line (and some of the other cheap Chinese manufacturers) is that they give a viable alternative to entry-level hobbyists, which in and of itself helps keep other lens companies from jacking up their prices too high as they have to compete.
Too bad their lenses tend to falter in comparison to similarly priced Meike/Neewer/Pergear and 7Artisans lenses.
"...that's a bit of a bucket of cold water for you." These Brits have such elegant ways of expressing negative things.
I don't want to p!ss on your chips but.... (chips=fries).
From a Northerner ;)
it has a lot of character. i LOVED the flaring, it looked so cool. really considering to buy this one for my fuji xt30. they seem like a good match.
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I have it. Use it on my old Xpro1. It's very good from 5.6 to F8. Not so good as the TTArtisans 35 F1.4 (a very similar lens). For the money you can't beat it. On my old Xtrans sensor it renders full of character photographs. And as the old sensor yields very warm images, its blue cast goes unnoticed. Recommended.
I had this lens for a couple of months and as general use landscape lens it does the job. But! I didn’t buy this for f5.6 and at f1.4 all attempts to shoot people, portraiture or just album shots from walks- it renders ugly, bokeh is just … mehhh, and overall is just somehow… ughhh. Similar to their 35/2 (had one as well on a7ll) - bit sharp, not the worst but it’s like your daughter’s first boyfriend- he might be decent lad but you just don’t like him. Same here, for the money there’s nothing to complain but I had worse lenses comparing performance which returned better pictures
Thanks again Chris you are always my default lens reviewer before I buy any lens. The best in the business.
so nice you decided to review one of these i’ve been seeing them for a few weeks now that corner image quality wide open though 😩😬
😍😍😍😍 finally a TTartisans lens on this channel
I had to laugh out loud wenn you said "the corners look absolutely terrible." Never heard that in your reviews before :D
I remember him saying once something like: "at aperture XX the corner image quality crashes and burns". That made me laugh. And also not buy the lens.
Very happy to see this review!
Great review as always. Nice little lens. I may add this to my arsenal.
Yours is the most thorough review I've seen yet on this lens. You really revealed it's weaknesses in a very specific way. Still, it's a very inexpensive lens. I always appreciate your reviews.
That's debatable, other reviews go for the more real world usage over test charts, the weaknesses here will only really matter to extreme pixel peepers. Not many are looking for sharp corners wide open outside of astro - and if that's your thing you're surely looking at higher end options. For what it is, a cheap and cheerful WA option to have some fun with, I wouldn't take these test chart results too seriously.
@@Cagey7531 Every lens has it's weaknesses and strengths, just like every camera. Good to know what they are to help you make a decision on whether to use it and how you will use it when you get it. Good review.
@@Cagey7531 knowing the lens's benefits(cost/F 1.4) and cons (corners/etc.) is more helpful in decision making for me than what "good artists" can make a lens do... b/c I can't do that ;)
Hi Christopher, FYI - the design of the body of the lens including the shown optical build is "heavily inspired" (^^) by the mighty Voigtlander Heliar Vintage 50/3.5. Thanks for the reviews, keep up the good work mate!
I have the 50mm f1.2 and LOVE it !!! ..... I can only afford very basic lenses and TTArtisan is my go to !!
Couldn't resist giving this lens a try, I've ordered it direct from Pergear for £85.
After Christopher Frosts review I bought one of these lenses in MFT fitting thus giving me a 34mm semi wide angle. Not everyone is a professional photographer and needs top of the line optics and in my case it just filled a gap in my lineup of prime's. I think it's an adequate lens optically and my philosophy is that if the subject is good then the viewer won't pixel peep. It's a lens that is enjoyable to use and easy to get along with and to my mind the colour rendition is very good.
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but isn't 23mm equivalent in mft about 46mm and not 35mm? Cheers.
@@gilbertdaroy6080 I'm talking in 35mm equivalent terms (as the MFT crop factor is x2) sorry about that. I'm not sure where you got the 23mm reference from?
I just order one.It will look great on my Fuji xe-4.Thank you Cristopher!
I have had this lens for a month and I absolutely love it. I was fed up with my Fujifilm 18/f2 and this was a great replacement. For one, I can get better results, and I can manual focus faster and more accurately with this lens than that accursed18/2
Haha is that 18mmf2 that bad? On what camera were you using it? I was thinking about getting it for my X-T3. I was hoping on a moder modern Fuji cam it might be okay when it comes to AF. Is the 17mm much longer? I can't find dimensions.
Sir! You just sold this lense to me.
When shooting wide open I want the corners blurry anyway. Such as when shooting a person in the middle of the frame. When I don’t I am always stopping down for deeper depth of field. So this works just fine for me. Oh and I will be shooting on MFT if I do buy it. Thanks for the review.
The person in them middle of a wide angle lens has a big nose.
The image quality is incredible for this money. It is sharp as hell in the middle and the photos look phantastic. I am impressed
The drawing on the outside of the lens is actually the print production assemblers use to put it together.
Thanks for your interesting review. I have the M43 version and my thoughts mirror yours. I found the sharpness rather disappointing (especially compared to other budget lenses) and I also have the cool cast. Having seen some "Rave" reviews of this lens, I am wondering if quality control may be an issue.
Comparing the TT A 17 to my old 1930's vintage 28mm f/6.3 Leitz Hector (on a full frame Leica) puts them quite close, except the Hector cost a lot more originally (even by 1930's prices) and is woefully slower. LOL. I'd say the 17/1.4 is a darn good bargain these days... and yes, I still use my beautiful old 28 Hector on my M Type 262 Leica.
Thank you for your excellent review.
i get mine in the mail this sunday can't wait to shoot with it
I like design of the lens, it will look great on Olympus Pen F
Ordered! 👍💸🤩
I 'need' it for a micro 4/3 camera. 😃
Just what I need, wish it a lil bit wider. I think I'm getting one
Chris … any chance to add to reviews just brief look how lenses perform somewhere in a midframe? In many photography scenarios a midframe “usability” will mean much more than those faaaaaaar corners at all. At least wide open pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase 😌
This is an ideal option for me with a Fuji XE travel setup. So it's great to see your more in-depth review and to see exactly where the limitations lie. Still works very nicely for me as I can easily shoot at f8 for edge-to-edge sharpness and enjoy the sharp image centre for low-light situations or isolating a subject.
Now when is it going to be available?
If I didn't already own a 19mm f2.8 Sigma Art lens, I would certainly go for this with all its faults. Although now out of production, I'm fairly sure I only paid £135 for the Japanese made Sigma which is much sharper across the to the edges. It is autofocus but, the biggy, not a f1.4
interesting lense .... it certainly falls in the FUN bucket of my lense category matching (FUN/Quality) . I mean i still prefer my old EF 85mm f1.8 USM, the new 85 f2 is sharper but the stm doesnt appeal to me at all and my old 85 has character :D What i do really like and i can fully agree, wide angle bright max apt lenses are neat! I love my 20mm f1.4 from sigma eventhough its on the heavy side.
it’s exciting to see such a cheap lens but somewhat workable for around a bit above $100
I have both the 16mm f/1.4 and f/2.8 Fujifilm XF lenses, but really miss the ability to zone focus via the DOF Mark's on the lens. While I can sort of do this by using the scale in the finder with the XF lenses, the focus by wire is not stable while moving about on the street, and the focus will drift from the initial set up.
So question, are the DOF Mark's accurate on this lens? I love doing street shooting at f/8 with a zone set so that I can shoot quickly, knowing that my subject in that near-to-far zone is covered.
Additionally, is there a hard stop at infinity, that actually fall at infinity?
Thanks for this review.
Distorsion and viggneting is better then in Fuji 23/1.4 that is impresive considering the price. I would take for landscapes using it always with f8 (great results) over big, havey and pricy Fuji for sure.
I've been very curious for this, I personally love the 50mm. Hope this one is just as nice (haven't watched yet)
Edit: pretty ok for the price, I might consider it. Do think I like the 50mm much better, that one has great bokeh.
If your applying a vignette to most of your picture already the lack of corner sharpness is helpful
Hi, I have been using the Kamlan 21mm f1.8 and am very impressed with it. Do you have any plans to review it? Thanks
Chris - In the sample pictures I saw one astrophotography shot. You mentioned in the review that coma would make this lens bad for professional astro work, but I'm curious how those "just for fun" shots came out?
Maybe if you pixel peep at the image, you can see the flaw the lens created especially if you compare it with lenses Chris has tested.
Nice lens review.
Review the Laowa Argus 33mm f/0.95, it seems interesting
Sir , can you review the 50mm f1.2 ttartisan , its also affordable and we have seen pretty positive reviews so far , but your review is different and we relay on you
The border quality seems to fall of very sharply. In the circle at the edge of the image the '8' towards the middle is not as bad as the '8' towards the edge at 1.4. Does that mean this lense performs much better with MFT than APS-C?
Thanks a lot.
From the distortion test, it seems that it has some strong field curvature issue, the corners are not in focus
I got myself one and very looking promising
I was thinking of this as strictly a desk V-Logging lens where I am going to want the corners and background soft anyways
for M4/3, Pana/Oly 1.8s 1.7s better offerings per penny and per pixel
tamron 11-20 and tamron 150-500 for sony..need those reviews
Even though it is cheap, it's something I'd still pass on. I'm very happy with the Samyang 12mm f2. Slower for sure, but better all round.
Can you test please the tt artisan 50mm f1.2, is it the lens as they say gives the most pleasant bokeh and subject speration on apsc? Thx
Hi, I currently have a Pen-F and Sigma 30mm 1,4 and am very happy but unfortunately too big.
I am interested in a bright compact lens mainly for street photography and I am undecided between the two TTartisan lenses 23mm 1,4 (plus compactness) and the 17mm (plus focal but less compact) what do you recommend? I would have doubts about their sharpness, to be picky, the potential that the two lenses have in post-production both with open and closed aperture.
I think maybe better if bigger filter thread for bigger hood
Thank you.
Ditto
What focal length will be equivalent to in a full frame taking into account the vignetting?
¿A qué focal equivaldrá en una full frame tomando en cuenta el viñeteo?
You could describe the bokeh here as "vintage" if you wanted. Little bit busy, little bit hard-edged, but otherwise nice enough to look at.
I am still aiming to get a Sigma Contemporary 16mm 1.4 DC DN used for just 300€ :D
1:00 was the taken with the 17mm?? It’s a pretty awesome Astro lens if so. Fair bit of coma by the looks.. but eh.. for the money!!
Sir please also make one ttartisan 35 1.4 and its 50 1.2 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅 the 35mm one costs $83 and the 50 one costs at $98.....
Is focus breathing problem visible only at f/16?
thanks
Hi, super noob question here. Since this lens uses a screw on type lens cap, will a typical pinch snap on lens cap work on this lens?
Yes if you can get one the right size
Please review the 35mm version!
hey man, at 0:59; at what aperture was the astro picture shot? f1.4 or f2?
and do you have more astro shots i can take a look at?
thanks in advance
f/1.4. That's the only shot I got I'm afraid!
@@christopherfrost can you send the file to me please? bliz32@gmail.com
Wish Sony would give you the GM 14mm to do...
It is actually for M43 camera.
do you have issue for focus infinity with this lens?
?
Hope they bring out a Canon EF mount version.
No, it's for mirrorless cameras only
Do you think the performance will be better on m4/3?
No idea TBH
I bought the 7artisans 25 1.8 and had mixed feelings about it. It focused past infinity and was definitely not 1.8. Probably won't buy another cheap Chinese lens for a while.
In my tests it proved to be a 2.8 aperture lens only
Please test 35mm 1.4 for APS-C :)
Please clean your camera especially on dial mode, Chris :D
Can I adapt this lens to my ef-s mount canon?
No, this lens requires a fairly short flange distance, which means it can only be used on mirrorless cameras
@@arashi9469 thank you
that's why those lens are better fit for micro four thirds ;D
about as useful as a flat battery, for a fully manual lens you'd want some decent optics
great review Christopher
800 views and only 83 likes, come on people this guy does great reviews :)
You must be half blind then? Looks a decent lens optically for the money, you're just one of those who concentraes too much on wide open corner sharpness perhaps. If you want sharp corners wide opn in a manual lens spend 5x the money for a voigtlander or Zeiss
Small correction, it's "TTArtisan" not "TTArtisans".
$140?
Still no fungus and haze like a vintage lens with the same IQ. I’m getting.
I doubt you will find a 17/ 1.4 vintage lens at all, not mentionong the price. You can find analog of TTArtisan 50mm f/1.2 among vintage lenses but it will be much more expensive with more or less the same IQ.
But in this case I recommend Kamlan 50mm f/1.1 ver.II which is much better lens for a bit more money and easily outperforms most of the vintage superfast 50-s
$180
@@user-io9mu7kn8l
www.amazon.com/TTartisan-Format-Wide-Angle-Compatible-Cameras/dp/B08ZNBLQP5
@@keystonebrotherb ok,Thank you very much,
Fungus gives it character
Hey,I am planning to buy sony a6400.
I have a question for you:-
Give the ratings (from 1-10) to the lenses based on sharpness (center&corner).
1)sony 16-55 kit lens
2) samyang 12mm f2 af
2) sigma 16mm 1.4
3)sony 18-105 f4
4)sony 18-135
5)sony 16mmf2.8
6)sony 10-18 f4
I have seen your videos but I am not able to come to a conclusion....
It depends on if you need a zoom or not. The Sigma 16mm is going to be the best, no contest. But if you need a zoom then the 18-135 and 10-18 are both good.
Are you asking me to go back through all my reviews, spend an hour or two watching them all, and give you a 1-10 rating on each of those lenses? That's not going to happen. The sharpest is the Sigma 16mm lens and the Samyang 12mm lens (unless you mean the Sony 16-55 f/2.8 G lens which will be the sharpest). The others all have their strengths and weaknesses - just watch the reviews and you'll see how sharp they are
I would go for the samyang 12mm because of its wider field of view and the bright aperture. If you choose the manual version, you will be forced to handle a wide lens fully manual. For beginnings it's pretty heavy but brings the most of fun. The money you are saving with this combination you could use to buy your second lens later.
If you watched the videos, why would a numbered list help you. You would be deflecting the decision to someone else.
You act like sharpness is all there is to a lens. It's not. First of all, the Sony 16-55 is a expensive f/2.8 fast zoom costs as much as the body you mentioned, the 16-50 is the kit lens, which isn't all that great. Second, you list lenses that do different things, you list a 16mm fast prime with a superzoom along with a fixed and variable aperture.
If it's a problem deciding, don't decide on sharpness, decide on what you want to use the lens for, and how much you want to pay for it. Expensive lenses are not great first lenses if you're not sure what you need them for.
@@InterMaus Sony 16mm f2.8 pancake lens* and I want to do vlogging and photography**,,what lens should I get?
The one thing that puts me off these cheap manual lenses is bokeh quality. It's so inconsistent at best and then completely unusable and filled with aberration when dark or flaring when bright that I can't justify them. Particularly when older used lenses can perform so much better for similar costs. I absolutely love the build and aesthetic though. Shame the build seems to be coming at the cost of glass :/
what ???? nice lens.
Thankyou for saying millimetres instead of em em.
Sony 50 Gm vs 50 Za
I would just add 150$ more and get the sigma 16mm 1.4
@Acorn antiques uhm so what?
😂"Just about means yes and no😂Any recommendations?
Hi,I found a storeThe product is guaranteed to be genuine and has a one-year warranty:
Chinese Lens - Chinese Lens - Chinese Lens ... What is not Chinese these days? camera body perhaps?!
...all the Japanese and the Korean and the German lenses...
@@christopherfrost haha .. I love all your unbiased reviews. :)
Is that a Fullframe?