Yeah I think the first date shouldn’t be held in a fine restaurant ... This way a guy can appear chivalrous by treating his date with a drink and a dessert without breaking his budget and a girl shows that she’s interested not in a free meal but in the guy if she orders something small. No one owes anything to each other on the first date except for having each other a good time.
crashpal some but not all, these days it's not uncommon for women to go on a first date; with no intention of going on a second. All for free dinner and a night out. Which is why i disagree with Steve saying it's the mans duty to provide for the woman, if that woman was my wife certainly; but it's not a mans duty to provide for a random hoe.
It happens, but, if you fall prey for that I almost feel it's the guy's fault. In my dating experiences, I could tell when a girl seems superficial & trying to finesse you.
Men provide for women with money and financials and paying bills and buying vacations for the family, while women help cook and clean for the family, now women don’t want to do that nowadays and want to break out the norm and that’s seen as independent but when a man wants to be independent and breaks out the norm he isn’t manly?
hmmm, those women are also holding up good jobs and are an asset to the man because they are actually bringing something to the table. if you go and get a pretty but useless gold digger who wants you to spend all your money on her and she brings nothing to the table, you have to reassess your choices. not all men or women are cut from the same cloth.
Serah Okechukwu Serah Okechukwu how many women do I know that are stay at home mothers? Very few and that was the point I was making and there are women who are making good money and are being praised as they should be... but a man not paying for a another persons date should not define whether he is manly or not just like a woman’s sexual encounter should not define her... having the wife cook clean and work wasn’t part of my argument at all my argument was that women are breaking out of the norm nowadays and are expecting and even getting praise in which there is no problem in that... but once the man breaks out of the norm he isn’t “manly or doesn’t know how to treat a woman”
Serah Okechukwu Not even true. Women get mad at other women that do stay home and try to Insist that she is a slave if she doesn’t work outside of the home. I also find it ridiculous that two people that pay half of everything are financially struggling. It makes no sense.
Jesse Caballero that’s the story of a rapper named hopsin... she had a baby by him but cheated on him with her personal trainer multiple times and now won’t let him see his son and gets child support from him
Hello, do you expect your man to do all the heavy work, mow garden, take the trash out? You say that men still expect that women cook and clean daily. Have you actually asked your man or guys in general? If you're not satisfied with the fact that your partner doesn't clean, have a conversation.
preach!!! I'm a lady. I'm independent and can take care of my own damn self & the man I'm on a date with needs to know that right away. Believe me a lot of men are intimidated by independent women and we to not need to waste both our times.
kelly toth Im with you on that its like ppl always want to subscribe to old ways but not fully. If thongs were the same women wouldnt work men would be even more stress out and i for one dont want no women who cant handle her own one day im gone die and im gone have kids cant be with no weak women who i think would out a men before her children lol
1 under 6ft .....NOT MAN ENOUGH 2 car isn’t nice...NOT MAN ENOUGH 3 don’t get a lot of attention from women .... NOT MAN ENOUGH 4 Don’t make a lot of money.....NOT MAN ENOUGH 5 NOT ENOUGH SWAG( what does that even mean?) ...NOT MAN ENOUGH 6 YOUR TOO NICE....NOT MAN ENOUGH All The Above Is The Logic Of The So Called Single Woman Of 2018 regardless of age or race.
Modalsoul Haven't you seen this show? Steve has already said it....women don't have high standards. I didn't need Steve to tell me this,i take a look around and i see it!!! I think men are rejected for another reason, that don't know yet. Rejection is hard to swallow and we people tend to blame others. Combine this with insecurity and you'll get there! And...come on, what about men's demands? We all have something to complain about the other sex... Complains don't make things up. We need to MAKE things better. Sorry for any mistakes. European :)))
whoever invited the other one man or woman should pay. it's rude to invite someone some where you chose and ask them to pay for themselves, would you that with a guy friend of yours?
Traditionally men paid on the first date because women did not work. How could a woman with no financial circumstance afford to spend on a man? They simply couldn’t, hence the tradition of men paying on the first date. However feminism threw that and ALL the other so called “patriarchal” traditions out the window. This IS what equality looks like and saying you like traditional dating is a cop out. You simply like the traditions that benefit YOU.
Actually, when people actually started dating, it was because women _did_ work that men paid for dates (and not just the "first ones," but all of them). When women first started working in the late 1800's, going to cities to try to make lives for themselves apart from husband and father, most employers assumed that the women were just working to supplement their father's or husband's income, so they were often paid less than half of what the men were. Men who wanted to court these women took them to amusement parks, paid for meals, etc., and the women actually got in trouble, initially, because the authorities thought they were prostitutes. But, they weren't actually giving their favors, they were just participating in the new courtship model that was developing. We've only been "dating" for approximately a hundred years, because the formal term appeared in the late 1890's, and initially meant the dates like on a calendar, not the actual date, itself. Now? it's usually just the "first date" that the asker needs to worry about, instead of all of them. However, if guys don't like that, there's always old-fashioned courtship, with priceless things like writing letters, poetry, bringing flowers, pitching woo, etc. going to the person's family's house, being inside, talking with eyes and ears all around... of course, I don't think many parents would be encouraging their kids to fool around (short of intercourse) with the person courting them, in this day and age like they did back in the 17 and 1800's, even going to far as to allow them to sleep in the same bed if they were sewn into sacks. Of course, they would also be relationship-oriented, and not lead each other on (being honest about their intentions), which would be wonderful, because communication (ironically) is something sorely lacking in this day.
@Cherry Blossom Happiness even in your scenario you are leaving out that women don't like to approach they want traditional courting. There is a site called bumblebee centered around this very premise. The studies show that even after initial contact made by women, they want men to take over the courting process.
I dated a European man for a while, he opened doors, held chairs, stood up when I arrived/left etc... He was a complete gentlemen, it was so refreshing. When he invited me to dinner he paid, even if I picked the restaurant he wouldn’t let me pay. Sometimes I would go and pay the bill before the server could bring the bill to the table, to avoid the “I’ll pay” discussion in front of the server. This way he knew how much I appreciated him and how he treated me, but also that I wasn’t taking advantage of him. Chivalry still exists, just not so much in North America, unfortunately.
And the UK!!! Honestly men over here are VILE!!! Completely toxic with such a disgusting attitude!! The man should pay on DATES! Simple as that!! I'm sooo with steve on this!! Old school is beautiful!
If nobody wants to pay then dont go out to eat people. There are so many activities to do (weather permitring) on a date that wouldn't involve a boring sit down dinner. Go for a walk at a nice park, go to the beach, have a picnic, play volleyball, a bike ride., SUP. LOTS TO DO. other than fighting for some dollars. smh.
@@sulemanqamar3068 Explain why male happiness goes up after divorce and female happiness goes down after divorce even though the female typically gets the upper hand in divorce cases.
I realize now that Steve Harvey is not talking to men AND women, he is only talking to women. He is just saying what they want to hear because any man knows that some women will go out with a man, order the most expensive food on the menu, pay him no attention, and let him pay for it and move on to the next dude. In this day and age of the bossed up woman, if she wants to be be equal to a man in every way, then be equal when the check comes to the table.
Steve is definitely NOT talking to men. That's why he's usually the only male voice. He'll have a panel of women that represent the female point of view. But he'll have himself as the ONLY male point of view. That's intentional.
1st date should be at like chipotle or pizza or something cheap like that to see where her heads at. After 3 dates no more restaurants until she invests something back. Not necessarily sex I'm not in a rush for that but she could cook me dinner or take me on a date.
Beautiful...you initiate care and provision for me, I reciprocate, and together, we not only have what we need but enrich everything around us... Good to read that there are still men that get it... Much respect...
As usual and obviously, they are only discussing about what women deserve and men's duty is. The opposites? Not mentioned. Nope, not stereotypical sex, but respect. Stop treatind people as a free meal.
Whew lawd if I dropped my standards to what that so-called dating expert says I would never have found someone who is equally yoked in every way. Thank you Steve for the save!
Exactly. Nothing cringes a man out more than a woman trying to be more like a guy... Like seriously, I wouldn't be pretending to be into whatever sitcom you're watching, because I'm not. And thats okay lol
Goodboi 1999 how about appreciating that a woman wants to show interest in something you like? I don’t know every single detail about sports, but I still like watching them. I don’t think that’s a woman trying to be like a man because she likes and wants to talk about sports.
Uncle Steve can afford to pay all the time. There are economic realities we face, what if a woman makes much more, and you've been friends for years getting together as lovers? The girl knows she got much more than the man
I told my one of my older sisters that lol..I asked her about the paying first with guys situation. She said if she had a official relationship she would never pay for her boyfriends date..only if it was his birthday lmao... I said, "what would you be good for, a dude wouldnt need you" she was shocked and shes going to be 44
Exactly. It's always the female's perspective that get expressed. When men are on dates, we want to be entertained too. We have things that woman do that turn us off. Let's talk about that.
But I know some women don't want to follow old fashioned roles in dates, so when you pay for the date it's actually a turn off for them. Ya'll women need to have a meeting and come up with a set of rules. Either we are equal and we split the check or you're for old fashioned roles and we pay. Can't have it both ways, it's unfair to men
fellas 1st dates shouldn't be to super expensive restaurants. sure you want to impress but getting to know who you're dealing with is way more important than trying to fancy her on the 1st date. there will be plenty of time for that later if the chemistry is right. there are a lot of dudes who are saved in a woman's phone under "food" ijs. be smart fellas and take her somewhere simple like a park or museum to talk, admire nature, and be amazed at art. this is to see if you want to invest time and money on her in the future. and ladies there's nothing wrong with picking up the tab once every eon, maybe not the 1st date, but down the line. don't let steve fool you into believing its all about you! that's how you end up single in these streets!
She's actually extremely smart and has university degree's, she's just in a profession where if your female and you appear smarter than your counterparts your told to say in your lane
Of course they expect men to pay the bill because they are poor little woman who you have to take care of.. But when it comes to doing the job as a housewife they are like hell no we are strong Independent modern women blablabla
@Cherry Blossom Happiness I slightly agree with you but then again I disagree. Ultimately women choose the man so you have to blame those women for not picking good men. Also standards changed in the 1950s men would cheat and nobody talked about it now women will leave if you so much as bat an eye. Believe it or not the only thing that changed are women's standards.
I'm old fashioned but I think this is horse manure. I go out on 30 "first" dates with 30 different women I have to pay 30 times. A woman goes out on 30 "first" dates with 30 different guys and she gets 30 free meals. Where's feminism then? "I don't need no man but you better take care of me." If I'm there 'cause I want to get to know you and you're the for the same reason then it should be 50/50 or pay your own. 'Cause if you're there for the free food I ain't playin' dat. I'll eat at home and we can have a nice free walk in the park so we can talk and get to know each other. I will let you know up front that we're going Dutch. It's a good way to weed out the gold diggers 🤣
lol, so women usually won't ask men out, therefore men have to do it, and that's the reason why they are supposed to pay? If women ask out men too, you could agree with the argument that whoever asks someone out, should pay, but....
Man invites you to dinner. You are an excellent guest and show respect, kindness and great conversation. He should feel special that you chose him to spend the evening with. And he is. He enjoyed your company. You never are expected to pay for it even if there was ZERO chemistry. He invited you. Don't insult him or his invite. You act like a gracious lady and show appreciation by saying THANK YOU. And really mean it. That's all they need. Genuine gratitude. When he pulls out your chair, opens the door, pours you more wine - cherish it and tell him how much you enjoy spending time with a real gentleman who knows how to treat a lady. That's it, feed his soul appreciation. Don't you love when someone appreciates your effort? Don't make it always about control or equality or money. Get those things totally out of your mind before he picks you up. You got all pretty and put on something beautiful to show effort and appreciation for his invitation. Girls you must learn to be receptive to the way a man shows his masculinity. His competence. He knows going in that it may not work. But who pays for the damn food is not in question. It's a given. You have to hold yourself to be the prize. No man, no real marriage material man would EVER expect you to pick up the check if there is no chemistry. Steve is trying to say it's not a good idea to take control over something like that. Look how put off he was! He was trying to say it's poor etiquette. No good man who was raised properly would be resentful if there was no chemistry. But if you offer to pay youve sucked the air even more out of his sails in addition to being rejected. And why should you reject him then and there? No! Totally inappropriate. Be mysterious remember? Say goodnight, nothing physical at the end, maybe a hug at best. If you did it right he should feel good about it but not led on. Go home. If he calls again, thank him and say something positive about him, then explain at that time that he's a great person but your dreams and goals are taking you in another direction and then say another nice thing and close the conversation courteously (some need reminding). Now it's not awkward face to face, you both had time to think and it's not going to ruin a perfectly good night out. If you do it right, he will be left feeling respected and that you are a classy person regardless of the outcome. Master graciousness, appreciation, and femininity and receptiveness. You don't ALWAYS have to be in control of everything, every minute of your life. In the driver's seat. If you try to pay like that with high income, high quality men, you'll look PETTY and not getting him at all.
Agreed with Steve. I'd never make a girl pay for the date, esp. not the first one. However, at the same time I think it's funny that all the feminists who scream for equality and elimination of gender roles/expectations conveniently let things side when it benefits them. Ladies if you want "complete" equality it needs to go full circle! Now again, I have no probs paying for a date at all, and I believe women should be treated equally. But don't be screaming for complete elimination of gender roles ONLY when it benefits you:
Here is my stance: -Who ever ASKS someone out should expect to be the one paying - the person who was ASKED out should assume they are paying for their own meal If the man offers to pay and is cool with that that's awesome, if not then paying for your own meal should be okay. If the woman knows she doesnt want to see this guy again she should NEVER let him pay. She just wasted his time and money if she does
I feel that fully Steve. My girlfriend and I don't go "out" to eat unless I'm paying! Hell I've spent my last 20$ on food for her an she makes more then me at the moment. Then there's also times when she buys her own on her own accord and asks do I want something? Cause she knows I'm not gonna spend my last on me but I would for her.
🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️ Steve Harvey u preaching 🖤 at first I was having mixed emotions like where did these women come from I don't agree then A MAN STOOD UP thanks for shutting them 🆙 and shutting it down ITS A MAN THING LET THESE MEN BE GREAT 🖤
Boudchoux Diwo... **Why do we have to pay? Why should a female feel entitled for my favors when I don't even know them yet? Because if it's the other way around the first thing a women will say is "I don't know you like that", "we're not dating", "you're not my man", "I don't owe you anything" etc. So if I'm not entitled to your resources, money, and favors, then why are you entitled to mine?! See what Steve doesn't know is how the dating game has changed. He's referencing his feelings from a time that was totally different. Back then men didn't mind paying and doing all those things because women returned the favor by showing their appreciation and dating him EXCLUSIVELY. Back then when women went on a date with a guy it was already someone they liked, so therefore they showed their appreciation. And because of that guys kept paying and doing things of that nature because we were appreciated by that person. Nowadays women don't show their appreciation like that nor do they value men like they used to because they have thousands of men at their disposal at the click (swipe) of a button. So guys are tired of getting taken advantage of and used for free drinks, free meals, attention, ego boosting etc. So if women want things the way they used to be, then their going to have to play their role and help make it a reality and stop going on dates with new guys every night of the weekend....but let's be real, they're not going to. And also the people in his crowd are cheering but look at most of them - They're in his age range so they come from a dating age that's totally extinct nowadays.*
Obi Wan we could say same for men.... Men too click(swipe)at a button since there are many women for one man 👌👌,go on dates for ego boosting etc... So to me that point is irrelevant. On the first date,a woman is entitled to favours,( yes she is ),because you're the one asking her out and so therefore the spot location, meal, chivalry is on you.Let men be gentlemen, women been appreciative or not. It speaks for yourself and trust, it pays.
Boudchoux Diwo... WHY is she entitled to favors though is the question? Simply because she's a women? So then my question is what is he 'entitled' to if she's entitled to his resources, money wallet etc, then is he then entitled to her body? 🤔.... Women would say he's not entitled to anything. I don't owe you anything, you're not my man, I don't owe you anything etc. So why is she entitled but he isn't?! And how are you going to say women being appreciative or not? Like men are just supposed to put up with not being appreciated. If someone isn't being appreciated they're not going to keep putting themselves in position to be taken advantage of which is what many women do nowadays And also because you asked her out means everything is on you? It's an agreement to spend time getting to know one another. If you know ahead of time that's going to include spending some money then a women should be prepared for that ahead of time, or decline going somewhere that she has to spend if that's not something she wants to do. She can suggest a park, museum etc. But the reason you typically don't see that is because women aren't inclined to pass down something for free. Then you have the many situations where people may not click and there's no second date. So now the guy is out of X amount of money, gas etc, and she gets to go out and repeat the same thing with another guy(s) on Saturday and Sunday Bottom line is guys are tired of being taken advantage of and used by women who don't appreciate them. If these women dated them exclusively and showed their appreciation in an equal manner (the way they used to) then guys wouldn't have a problem treating women the way they used to. So if women want things to change and go back to how guys were in dating them, then women also have to do their part in conducting themselves in the manner in which women used to that made men more than happy to do all these things for them
Obi Wan to be sincere, I didn't read all of what you wrote,because I got other stuff running.All I can say is do you!. If you've been in this situation before or still is and you feel like, there's double standards, OK. All I'm saying is provision by men has existed since ages and will continue to because that's how it was planned by God(if you're a Christian) be it appreciated or not by women, independent or not. I feel Steve said it all🤷. Have a good day .
Boudchoux Diwo... And I agree with you that's how God has made providing. But he's made it that way for a man and his family, not random women who that man owes nothing to. The man has obligations to his family, not women who are strangers that owe him nothing in return...huge difference If you listen closely to his rant at the end he specifically mentioned "your women", "when you love a women" etc... The original question was about a FIRST DATE - Not after she's already your women and you're already in love etc. What person LOVES the other on a first date? 🤔. You don't even know each other yet. So he was saying that regarding when that's already your women and you're in love, which is totally different because by then she's already showed her appreciation and been exclusive with him enough for it to reach that point for a man to reciprocate and make that investment in her, while she did the same in return for him. Have a good day as well 👍
Personally I always bring enough to pay for myself and only order what I can afford, I will always offer to pay my portion.. but if he accepts that offer I will take that as "ok he's not into me, isn't trying to show me he could 'take care of me' and is looking at this not as a date anymore, but a friend hangout"
Mention another woman's name and talk about past relationships. I don't mind asking for a bite of food but taking a sip from my drink absolutely NOT!!! I don't mind paying my own way.
I'm a female and on a first date I would like to pay my own meal or coffee or what ever. But guys that I've been out with, never let me and I just find it annoying. Even if I've told them this before the date.
Cherry Blossom Happiness You have just implied that the “prize” is what and whom takes the dick. Funny how your prior argument and that of DaChaosKitty or DisasterPussy (same idiot) seem to assert that women are the prize but should not be seen a sex objects. Real men are the prize. We are definitely scarcer than punani. Males may outnumber women but the ratio is heavily inverted once, the incarcerated, beta, weak, pussywhipped, incel, poofters and other dregs are removed from the equation. Real men are not nearly as expendable as poor Brett Reason has been misled to believe.
I also believe there are a lot of women who don't deserve a guy to pay for their meal because some women are just not worthy or they are just out for a free meal because they think it's a guys ''job'' to pay. I had a guy friend take a girl out he just met for their first date he took her to a seafood restaraunt and it cost him $150.This chick just took a lot of pics of the food for her instagram ( probably to make herself look good and rich) without obviously explaining to her followers that she was on a date.My poor friend didn't even score with her and didn't hear from her again..Seeing so many women are empowering themselves today and feel so independent then pay for your own damn food and stop expecting freebies..What is a guy supposed to expect from a woman then??.Also first dates should be just a coffee and then seeing if there is mutual ground and attraction before a guy can ask a girl out for lunch or dinner as a second date..
If a woman “isn’t worthy” of treating to a meal or evening then don’t ask her on a date. Simple. The point is if you are asking then you are treating because that was the point of asking. It is the whole generalizations about all women or men that gets me. Dating is very situational and person by person acting like you can have a bad experience and garb a paint brush is self destructive.
Just because I have a hard time letting a guy pay my meal on the first date, doesn’t mean I don’t like him. Yes once in a while if he wants to treat me, okay I just need to keep myself together and let him pay. But I want to do my share in the relationship as well. If he pays for the movie tickets, I will get the snacks. I don’t ask for much, out sometimes I need to learn how to give in.
If a man senses that the woman is not interested at the beginning of a date then the date was over right then and there and paying for the entire date is not on the table. The man should leave and pay his portion and leave because any time longer is just abusive behavior after the lost interest moment. Both sides should always cut the date short when either realizes there is no connection, you are just asking for trouble if you continue.
Leon Nottingham Then you're masculinity is fragile as hell and clearly you weren't much of a man in the first place if letting a woman pay for you hurts your ego that much.
She may say it's okay to have a whole bottle of wine on a first date, but men see that as a no go situation because it means she just wants to be a party drunk animal, and that's wrong, like if you want to purchase a bottle and bring it home with you that's fine but having in front of us isn't very pleasant or polite
You know what Steve, im born 91 male and don't 100% agree with you, but you're a man's man and i respect you so ill adopt your way. How about a tindet date tho? 😂
I WILL TALK SPORTS LIKE...... ummm........ she acting like shes giving up something or doing something crazy for a guy. if u dont wanna talk sports, then dont lol
My biggest turn offs on a date.1.being obviously inebriated. 2.lack of hygiene. 3.not saying anything about other relationships,children, or conversely, over sharing about relationships and children. 4.being rude,obnoxious, cruel, abusive. 5.expecting sex immediately after meeting for the first time, ever. 6.not being upfront about finances.why pick a bougie, expensive restaurant, knowing damn well you can't afford tap water. Why. 7.excessive alcohol consumption.
This is why you should start with coffee date, that way if y’all not feeling each other no body going be mad about 3 dollars latte
Right, hell even throw in a donut or a muffin! Haha
True!
Preach 🙌🏻🙌🏻
Yeah I think the first date shouldn’t be held in a fine restaurant ... This way a guy can appear chivalrous by treating his date with a drink and a dessert without breaking his budget and a girl shows that she’s interested not in a free meal but in the guy if she orders something small. No one owes anything to each other on the first date except for having each other a good time.
deuteros I’m sorry for you... 1100$ 🙈 This is ridiculous.
There are also women who think men are “free meals.”
Mike Nelson those types are called "gold diggers"
crashpal some but not all, these days it's not uncommon for women to go on a first date; with no intention of going on a second.
All for free dinner and a night out.
Which is why i disagree with Steve saying it's the mans duty to provide for the woman, if that woman was my wife certainly; but it's not a mans duty to provide for a random hoe.
yap
It happens, but, if you fall prey for that I almost feel it's the guy's fault. In my dating experiences, I could tell when a girl seems superficial & trying to finesse you.
Facts
Men provide for women with money and financials and paying bills and buying vacations for the family, while women help cook and clean for the family, now women don’t want to do that nowadays and want to break out the norm and that’s seen as independent but when a man wants to be independent and breaks out the norm he isn’t manly?
hmmm, those women are also holding up good jobs and are an asset to the man because they are actually bringing something to the table. if you go and get a pretty but useless gold digger who wants you to spend all your money on her and she brings nothing to the table, you have to reassess your choices. not all men or women are cut from the same cloth.
Serah Okechukwu Serah Okechukwu how many women do I know that are stay at home mothers? Very few and that was the point I was making and there are women who are making good money and are being praised as they should be... but a man not paying for a another persons date should not define whether he is manly or not just like a woman’s sexual encounter should not define her... having the wife cook clean and work wasn’t part of my argument at all my argument was that women are breaking out of the norm nowadays and are expecting and even getting praise in which there is no problem in that... but once the man breaks out of the norm he isn’t “manly or doesn’t know how to treat a woman”
Serah Okechukwu Not even true. Women get mad at other women that do stay home and try to Insist that she is a slave if she doesn’t work outside of the home. I also find it ridiculous that two people that pay half of everything are financially struggling. It makes no sense.
Jesse Caballero that’s the story of a rapper named hopsin... she had a baby by him but cheated on him with her personal trainer multiple times and now won’t let him see his son and gets child support from him
Hello, do you expect your man to do all the heavy work, mow garden, take the trash out?
You say that men still expect that women cook and clean daily. Have you actually asked your man or guys in general? If you're not satisfied with the fact that your partner doesn't clean, have a conversation.
The women in pink has a brain. PPL need to stop letting steve be the authority on women and relationships.
preach!!! I'm a lady. I'm independent and can take care of my own damn self & the man I'm on a date with needs to know that right away. Believe me a lot of men are intimidated by independent women and we to not need to waste both our times.
kelly toth Im with you on that its like ppl always want to subscribe to old ways but not fully. If thongs were the same women wouldnt work men would be even more stress out and i for one dont want no women who cant handle her own one day im gone die and im gone have kids cant be with no weak women who i think would out a men before her children lol
imma beotch oh blah blah blah
woman**
You take some and you leave some he didn't say to take every advice he give.
If I dont like the guy and dont wanna see him again, I'm DEFINTELY paying half. I would feel bad.
Yah Girl Respect!
Liar you'll still not pay a dime lol
Same for me ! Why would I pay for having a bad time !
Exactly!
@@charlesxavier77 she said she would pay 😴😴😴
I feel more comfortable at a job interview than dating.
I'm guessing you've had more interviews then :p
It's the same for me though haha
@@ThanuG15 Ditto! Although my dating record was much better than my interview record. I also didn't get catfished as much by jobs as I did by dates.
Same!
1 under 6ft .....NOT MAN ENOUGH
2 car isn’t nice...NOT MAN ENOUGH
3 don’t get a lot of attention from women .... NOT MAN ENOUGH
4 Don’t make a lot of money.....NOT MAN ENOUGH
5 NOT ENOUGH SWAG( what does that even mean?) ...NOT MAN ENOUGH
6 YOUR TOO NICE....NOT MAN ENOUGH
All The Above Is The Logic Of The So Called Single Woman Of 2018 regardless of age or race.
Speak for yourself. Im a girl and I dont think that way
SSBMA1994 your one woman , most women feel this way from 15 to 50
#FACTS
Modalsoul Haven't you seen this show?
Steve has already said it....women don't have high standards.
I didn't need Steve to tell me this,i take a look around and i see it!!!
I think men are rejected for another reason, that don't know yet. Rejection is hard to swallow and we people tend to blame others. Combine this with insecurity and you'll get there!
And...come on, what about men's demands?
We all have something to complain about the other sex...
Complains don't make things up. We need to MAKE things better.
Sorry for any mistakes. European :)))
SSBMA1994 a lot do believe it or not.
I definitely don't think that way and I'm a woman
Its a turn off if the man asks for a bite but its completely okay to not pay for those bites..
lol good point if I'm paying her plate is mine as well technically.
double standard
Not as big a deal people making it
Yes STEVE!!! Tell it👏👏👏
You can have a bite but don't stick your hands in my plate.
He need to have man on here that don’t care bout tryin to please d Audience
shawn woods facts
shawn woods get bill burr on here with them
Steve Harvey a goofball. I’ve watched several of these segments he says any and everything to cater to women. Clown!
Dead Head 102 lol that would be d best thing in d world
Daytime TV for jobless birds expecting to be taken care of for free, of course this is what you're going to get.
A woman wants a man to pay but still wish to Promote A 50/50 relationship and Feminism. Lol
@Cherry Blossom Happiness L
whoever invited the other one man or woman should pay. it's rude to invite someone some where you chose and ask them to pay for themselves, would you that with a guy friend of yours?
On point
Most men want a 50/50 relationship when it comes to bills but still want a housewife boy stfu
Because men still earn more. Usually.
Traditionally men paid on the first date because women did not work. How could a woman with no financial circumstance afford to spend on a man? They simply couldn’t, hence the tradition of men paying on the first date. However feminism threw that and ALL the other so called “patriarchal” traditions out the window. This IS what equality looks like and saying you like traditional dating is a cop out. You simply like the traditions that benefit YOU.
Actually, when people actually started dating, it was because women _did_ work that men paid for dates (and not just the "first ones," but all of them). When women first started working in the late 1800's, going to cities to try to make lives for themselves apart from husband and father, most employers assumed that the women were just working to supplement their father's or husband's income, so they were often paid less than half of what the men were. Men who wanted to court these women took them to amusement parks, paid for meals, etc., and the women actually got in trouble, initially, because the authorities thought they were prostitutes. But, they weren't actually giving their favors, they were just participating in the new courtship model that was developing. We've only been "dating" for approximately a hundred years, because the formal term appeared in the late 1890's, and initially meant the dates like on a calendar, not the actual date, itself.
Now? it's usually just the "first date" that the asker needs to worry about, instead of all of them. However, if guys don't like that, there's always old-fashioned courtship, with priceless things like writing letters, poetry, bringing flowers, pitching woo, etc. going to the person's family's house, being inside, talking with eyes and ears all around... of course, I don't think many parents would be encouraging their kids to fool around (short of intercourse) with the person courting them, in this day and age like they did back in the 17 and 1800's, even going to far as to allow them to sleep in the same bed if they were sewn into sacks. Of course, they would also be relationship-oriented, and not lead each other on (being honest about their intentions), which would be wonderful, because communication (ironically) is something sorely lacking in this day.
garbonomics I’m a women and i love how much sense this makes because it’s true, I’ll admit I’m guilty of it
Well said
Women get to choose what parts of "equality" they want then throw out the part that aren't convenient for them.
@Cherry Blossom Happiness even in your scenario you are leaving out that women don't like to approach they want traditional courting. There is a site called bumblebee centered around this very premise. The studies show that even after initial contact made by women, they want men to take over the courting process.
I dated a European man for a while, he opened doors, held chairs, stood up when I arrived/left etc... He was a complete gentlemen, it was so refreshing. When he invited me to dinner he paid, even if I picked the restaurant he wouldn’t let me pay. Sometimes I would go and pay the bill before the server could bring the bill to the table, to avoid the “I’ll pay” discussion in front of the server. This way he knew how much I appreciated him and how he treated me, but also that I wasn’t taking advantage of him. Chivalry still exists, just not so much in North America, unfortunately.
And the UK!!!
Honestly men over here are VILE!!! Completely toxic with such a disgusting attitude!!
The man should pay on DATES! Simple as that!!
I'm sooo with steve on this!! Old school is beautiful!
You a good lady mam, Respect.
If nobody wants to pay then dont go out to eat people. There are so many activities to do (weather permitring) on a date that wouldn't involve a boring sit down dinner. Go for a walk at a nice park, go to the beach, have a picnic, play volleyball, a bike ride., SUP. LOTS TO DO. other than fighting for some dollars. smh.
Finally someone with sense
😂😂
Facts
U deserve a cookie
Women want to be fed.
Notice he talking to a bunch of women when he says man should pay. It’s no coincidence. Steve is catering to his fan base. Get your money Steve.😅
So you think he would say otherwise if it were a bunch of dudes in the studio?
tommoore2012 I do
tommoore2012 his audience is women he just wants the money
No, Steve has good morals and manners.
Stay single guys. We are better off by ourself
so true. I only casual date now; Nothing series. Learned the hard way.
Have fun being lonely lmao
@@sulemanqamar3068 how would you be lonely with pets, friends, and family?
Nah but you can stay a single Pringle by yourself lmao
@@sulemanqamar3068 Explain why male happiness goes up after divorce and female happiness goes down after divorce even though the female typically gets the upper hand in divorce cases.
if you screaming equality in my ears. we both paying bruh.
👐
"Chilvary is dead because women killed it" -Dave Chapelle
As a Dutch man I find it just hilarious they refer to splitting the bill as 'Going Dutch' :')
dutch people are zuinig
Lol why?? What are you saying then??
I realize now that Steve Harvey is not talking to men AND women, he is only talking to women. He is just saying what they want to hear because any man knows that some women will go out with a man, order the most expensive food on the menu, pay him no attention, and let him pay for it and move on to the next dude. In this day and age of the bossed up woman, if she wants to be be equal to a man in every way, then be equal when the check comes to the table.
Steve is definitely NOT talking to men. That's why he's usually the only male voice. He'll have a panel of women that represent the female point of view. But he'll have himself as the ONLY male point of view. That's intentional.
Good points made.
duh... that why I don't like his ass like that. He should've told those women to explain their philosophies.
@Cherry Blossom Happiness Your lack of accountability is concerning. It takes two to make a child.
1st date should be at like chipotle or pizza or something cheap like that to see where her heads at. After 3 dates no more restaurants until she invests something back.
Not necessarily sex I'm not in a rush for that but she could cook me dinner or take me on a date.
Are you threatening me?
Hahaha "Stay in your lane"
STAY IN YO LANE Kristine
Sstyles18 na shes fine im ok with her especially when shes into sports makes her more hotter!
john smith She dont know crap about sports, She only cares for the hot men with million dollar contracts.
Lmao
john smith that was a reference to black trump aka Lavar Nevahloss
Lavar : "You are a Hate-ter"
Love these conversations you knw, different perspectives from different voices. Love it Steve
STAY IN YO LANE
ThePsalms will never get old
How about I pay and she tips🤷🏾♂️
Your a man of class I see.
Beautiful...you initiate care and provision for me, I reciprocate, and together, we not only have what we need but enrich everything around us... Good to read that there are still men that get it... Much respect...
🤣
0k "man Way" some of these girls these days will use guys tho and save your number in their phone as "free food" be careful 😂💯
It really all depends on each individual. Everyone on both sides should always be both careful and open minded
No one pays for cookie. Food has to be paid
As usual and obviously, they are only discussing about what women deserve and men's duty is.
The opposites? Not mentioned. Nope, not stereotypical sex, but respect.
Stop treatind people as a free meal.
People need to elongate the 'talking on the phone phase' longer. Get to know the other person, know they have Great intentions before going on a date.
Whew lawd if I dropped my standards to what that so-called dating expert says I would never have found someone who is equally yoked in every way. Thank you Steve for the save!
Kristine: I've had a whole bottle of wine...
Steve: 🖐🏽 Stay in your lane.
A big turn-off for me would be when a woman talks sports with you but she has no idea what she's talking about...Kristine.
Exactly. Nothing cringes a man out more than a woman trying to be more like a guy...
Like seriously, I wouldn't be pretending to be into whatever sitcom you're watching, because I'm not. And thats okay lol
Lmao
I would still smash
Goodboi 1999 how about appreciating that a woman wants to show interest in something you like? I don’t know every single detail about sports, but I still like watching them. I don’t think that’s a woman trying to be like a man because she likes and wants to talk about sports.
Its cause she’s a sports broadcaster. She has her own sports radio show
The woman in pink.. is she a unicorn...
Respect for such a woman..
She is a sensible lady.. all other are just children ..
Funny how "we have forgotten to teach men how to be men" but no one dare say that we have forgotten to "teach women how to be women"
Uncle Steve can afford to pay all the time. There are economic realities we face, what if a woman makes much more, and you've been friends for years getting together as lovers? The girl knows she got much more than the man
When Keri Hilson is giving advice on what she want and don't want on a date, I listen!
What is the advantage for a man to be in a relationship with a woman again?
I told my one of my older sisters that lol..I asked her about the paying first with guys situation. She said if she had a official relationship she would never pay for her boyfriends date..only if it was his birthday lmao... I said, "what would you be good for, a dude wouldnt need you" she was shocked and shes going to be 44
Steve what would a panel of men say about this question?
Exactly. It's always the female's perspective that get expressed. When men are on dates, we want to be entertained too. We have things that woman do that turn us off. Let's talk about that.
But I know some women don't want to follow old fashioned roles in dates, so when you pay for the date it's actually a turn off for them. Ya'll women need to have a meeting and come up with a set of rules. Either we are equal and we split the check or you're for old fashioned roles and we pay. Can't have it both ways, it's unfair to men
fellas 1st dates shouldn't be to super expensive restaurants. sure you want to impress but getting to know who you're dealing with is way more important than trying to fancy her on the 1st date. there will be plenty of time for that later if the chemistry is right. there are a lot of dudes who are saved in a woman's phone under "food" ijs. be smart fellas and take her somewhere simple like a park or museum to talk, admire nature, and be amazed at art. this is to see if you want to invest time and money on her in the future. and ladies there's nothing wrong with picking up the tab once every eon, maybe not the 1st date, but down the line. don't let steve fool you into believing its all about you! that's how you end up single in these streets!
I disagree
Factz on this one Steve my pops taught me that way
Is this Kristine leahy?
It does say her name on the description 🙄
She's actually extremely smart and has university degree's, she's just in a profession where if your female and you appear smarter than your counterparts your told to say in your lane
+SuperJohn12354 Universities are left-wing propaganda machines.
dave 2400 she likes sports? Im in
I dont care if she has a degree or cant even spell her last name.
Kenway she’s not that fine dawg lol
I like the girl in pink, we need more women like her.
Of course they expect men to pay the bill because they are poor little woman who you have to take care of.. But when it comes to doing the job as a housewife they are like hell no we are strong Independent modern women blablabla
@Cherry Blossom Happiness I slightly agree with you but then again I disagree. Ultimately women choose the man so you have to blame those women for not picking good men. Also standards changed in the 1950s men would cheat and nobody talked about it now women will leave if you so much as bat an eye. Believe it or not the only thing that changed are women's standards.
I'm old fashioned but I think this is horse manure. I go out on 30 "first" dates with 30 different women I have to pay 30 times. A woman goes out on 30 "first" dates with 30 different guys and she gets 30 free meals. Where's feminism then? "I don't need no man but you better take care of me."
If I'm there 'cause I want to get to know you and you're the for the same reason then it should be 50/50 or pay your own. 'Cause if you're there for the free food I ain't playin' dat. I'll eat at home and we can have a nice free walk in the park so we can talk and get to know each other.
I will let you know up front that we're going Dutch. It's a good way to weed out the gold diggers 🤣
@Cherry Blossom Happiness Women don't ask men out in general. That's the way society made it to be. That isnt really a fair argument.
What's a TurnOff to me is when a women's voice gets loud and irritating about Do's and Don'ts .
The game has changed Steve... by their request, it’s there fault.
Women aren’t “women” anymore
I love the MAN way!
Protect
Profess
Provide
...word
Feminizm.. i love it
Steve is spittin FACTS
lol, so women usually won't ask men out, therefore men have to do it, and that's the reason why they are supposed to pay? If women ask out men too, you could agree with the argument that whoever asks someone out, should pay, but....
i agree, im not gonna pay all the time. im already nervous enough to even ask for a date and pay while being nervous as well... geez
Man invites you to dinner.
You are an excellent guest and show respect, kindness and great conversation. He should feel special that you chose him to spend the evening with. And he is.
He enjoyed your company.
You never are expected to pay for it even if there was ZERO chemistry.
He invited you. Don't insult him or his invite.
You act like a gracious lady and show appreciation by saying THANK YOU. And really mean it.
That's all they need. Genuine gratitude.
When he pulls out your chair, opens the door, pours you more wine - cherish it and tell him how much you enjoy spending time with a real gentleman who knows how to treat a lady.
That's it, feed his soul appreciation.
Don't you love when someone appreciates your effort?
Don't make it always about control or equality or money.
Get those things totally out of your mind before he picks you up.
You got all pretty and put on something beautiful to show effort and appreciation for his invitation.
Girls you must learn to be receptive to the way a man shows his masculinity. His competence.
He knows going in that it may not work.
But who pays for the damn food is not in question.
It's a given.
You have to hold yourself to be the prize.
No man, no real marriage material man would EVER expect you to pick up the check if there is no chemistry.
Steve is trying to say it's not a good idea to take control over something like that. Look how put off he was! He was trying to say it's poor etiquette.
No good man who was raised properly would be resentful if there was no chemistry. But if you offer to pay youve sucked the air even more out of his sails in addition to being rejected. And why should you reject him then and there? No! Totally inappropriate. Be mysterious remember? Say goodnight, nothing physical at the end, maybe a hug at best. If you did it right he should feel good about it but not led on.
Go home. If he calls again, thank him and say something positive about him, then explain at that time that he's a great person but your dreams and goals are taking you in another direction and then say another nice thing and close the conversation courteously (some need reminding). Now it's not awkward face to face, you both had time to think and it's not going to ruin a perfectly good night out. If you do it right, he will be left feeling respected and that you are a classy person regardless of the outcome.
Master graciousness, appreciation, and femininity and receptiveness. You don't ALWAYS have to be in control of everything, every minute of your life. In the driver's seat. If you try to pay like that with high income, high quality men, you'll look PETTY and not getting him at all.
D'Anna C prostitution at its finest~
Agreed with Steve. I'd never make a girl pay for the date, esp. not the first one. However, at the same time I think it's funny that all the feminists who scream for equality and elimination of gender roles/expectations conveniently let things side when it benefits them. Ladies if you want "complete" equality it needs to go full circle! Now again, I have no probs paying for a date at all, and I believe women should be treated equally. But don't be screaming for complete elimination of gender roles ONLY when it benefits you:
Here is my stance:
-Who ever ASKS someone out should expect to be the one paying
- the person who was ASKED out should assume they are paying for their own meal
If the man offers to pay and is cool with that that's awesome, if not then paying for your own meal should be okay. If the woman knows she doesnt want to see this guy again she should NEVER let him pay. She just wasted his time and money if she does
Agreed. That way no one feels like they got tricked into paying for someone’s free meal.
I feel that fully Steve. My girlfriend and I don't go "out" to eat unless I'm paying! Hell I've spent my last 20$ on food for her an she makes more then me at the moment. Then there's also times when she buys her own on her own accord and asks do I want something? Cause she knows I'm not gonna spend my last on me but I would for her.
You have class and heart. She has a gentleman. 🥰
For me the biggest turn of is if the response for the MOST *IMPORTANT QUESTION* is the wrong one!!!
"Do you spit or swallow"
Dinner on the first date is boring tbh 🤷🏾♂️
obi was here exactly
🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️ Steve Harvey u preaching 🖤 at first I was having mixed emotions like where did these women come from I don't agree then A MAN STOOD UP thanks for shutting them 🆙 and shutting it down ITS A MAN THING LET THESE MEN BE GREAT 🖤
Constantly picking up your cell for calls , text or social media
Right on Steve! 👍🏻
I had 10 beers on my first date with my girlfriend. Plus I grilled her a nice steak outside and had a fire going. So........hmmm.
Thank you Steve
Steve, I'm glad mgtow is putting these old cliches out of business.
3 completely different women, 3 completely different rules. You know what that means, "everyone is different"!!!!!!!
I agree completely with you Steve...Couldn't have said it better...Lordddd these women don't get it😒😒😒
Boudchoux Diwo... **Why do we have to pay? Why should a female feel entitled for my favors when I don't even know them yet? Because if it's the other way around the first thing a women will say is "I don't know you like that", "we're not dating", "you're not my man", "I don't owe you anything" etc. So if I'm not entitled to your resources, money, and favors, then why are you entitled to mine?! See what Steve doesn't know is how the dating game has changed. He's referencing his feelings from a time that was totally different. Back then men didn't mind paying and doing all those things because women returned the favor by showing their appreciation and dating him EXCLUSIVELY. Back then when women went on a date with a guy it was already someone they liked, so therefore they showed their appreciation. And because of that guys kept paying and doing things of that nature because we were appreciated by that person. Nowadays women don't show their appreciation like that nor do they value men like they used to because they have thousands of men at their disposal at the click (swipe) of a button. So guys are tired of getting taken advantage of and used for free drinks, free meals, attention, ego boosting etc. So if women want things the way they used to be, then their going to have to play their role and help make it a reality and stop going on dates with new guys every night of the weekend....but let's be real, they're not going to. And also the people in his crowd are cheering but look at most of them - They're in his age range so they come from a dating age that's totally extinct nowadays.*
Obi Wan we could say same for men.... Men too click(swipe)at a button since there are many women for one man 👌👌,go on dates for ego boosting etc... So to me that point is irrelevant. On the first date,a woman is entitled to favours,( yes she is ),because you're the one asking her out and so therefore the spot location, meal, chivalry is on you.Let men be gentlemen, women been appreciative or not. It speaks for yourself and trust, it pays.
Boudchoux Diwo... WHY is she entitled to favors though is the question? Simply because she's a women? So then my question is what is he 'entitled' to if she's entitled to his resources, money wallet etc, then is he then entitled to her body? 🤔....
Women would say he's not entitled to anything. I don't owe you anything, you're not my man, I don't owe you anything etc. So why is she entitled but he isn't?! And how are you going to say women being appreciative or not? Like men are just supposed to put up with not being appreciated. If someone isn't being appreciated they're not going to keep putting themselves in position to be taken advantage of which is what many women do nowadays
And also because you asked her out means everything is on you? It's an agreement to spend time getting to know one another. If you know ahead of time that's going to include spending some money then a women should be prepared for that ahead of time, or decline going somewhere that she has to spend if that's not something she wants to do. She can suggest a park, museum etc. But the reason you typically don't see that is because women aren't inclined to pass down something for free. Then you have the many situations where people may not click and there's no second date. So now the guy is out of X amount of money, gas etc, and she gets to go out and repeat the same thing with another guy(s) on Saturday and Sunday
Bottom line is guys are tired of being taken advantage of and used by women who don't appreciate them. If these women dated them exclusively and showed their appreciation in an equal manner (the way they used to) then guys wouldn't have a problem treating women the way they used to. So if women want things to change and go back to how guys were in dating them, then women also have to do their part in conducting themselves in the manner in which women used to that made men more than happy to do all these things for them
Obi Wan to be sincere, I didn't read all of what you wrote,because I got other stuff running.All I can say is do you!. If you've been in this situation before or still is and you feel like, there's double standards, OK. All I'm saying is provision by men has existed since ages and will continue to because that's how it was planned by God(if you're a Christian) be it appreciated or not by women, independent or not.
I feel Steve said it all🤷.
Have a good day .
Boudchoux Diwo... And I agree with you that's how God has made providing. But he's made it that way for a man and his family, not random women who that man owes nothing to. The man has obligations to his family, not women who are strangers that owe him nothing in return...huge difference
If you listen closely to his rant at the end he specifically mentioned "your women", "when you love a women" etc... The original question was about a FIRST DATE - Not after she's already your women and you're already in love etc. What person LOVES the other on a first date? 🤔. You don't even know each other yet. So he was saying that regarding when that's already your women and you're in love, which is totally different because by then she's already showed her appreciation and been exclusive with him enough for it to reach that point for a man to reciprocate and make that investment in her, while she did the same in return for him.
Have a good day as well 👍
Personally I always bring enough to pay for myself and only order what I can afford, I will always offer to pay my portion.. but if he accepts that offer I will take that as "ok he's not into me, isn't trying to show me he could 'take care of me' and is looking at this not as a date anymore, but a friend hangout"
Kristine Leahy Stay in Yo Lane!
Hey what's up?
If I’m supposed to pay for that date then we’re just friends. Period.
Bella Bijou but if it’s the first date you guys start as friends first no ?
amen to that
Steve have been married 3 times. Do I need to say more. Smh
Going Dutch should be a mutual idea.
@3:00
That headshake from Steve LMAO
Mention another woman's name and talk about past relationships. I don't mind asking for a bite of food but taking a sip from my drink absolutely NOT!!! I don't mind paying my own way.
At 2:55 "If you want to go dutch ..." If a man suggests to go dutch, the girl already knows she wont see him again.
Steve is a clown, this was cringeworthy af
Just old school.
Daniel M. Pitta so you’re clearly cheap then
bystander x You women are also cheap, why don’t you pay for both of our meals?
I love Steve for this. He's a gentleman.
Go in Steve 👏👏👏👏
I'm a female and on a first date I would like to pay my own meal or coffee or what ever. But guys that I've been out with, never let me and I just find it annoying.
Even if I've told them this before the date.
Erm cos they've asked you out lol
Men don't understand feminizm, that's why they keep paying for girls
Your in the right to offer to pay. It's not annoying. It's respectful and your more respected after you offer to pay
Why cant the man be the prize?
Mario Edwards there's more of us so we are extremely expendable. 55% vs 45% of the
He’s the prize we just brainwashed
Cherry Blossom Happiness
You have just implied that the “prize” is what and whom takes the dick. Funny how your prior argument and that of DaChaosKitty or DisasterPussy (same idiot) seem to assert that women are the prize but should not be seen a sex objects. Real men are the prize. We are definitely scarcer than punani. Males may outnumber women but the ratio is heavily inverted once, the incarcerated, beta, weak, pussywhipped, incel, poofters and other dregs are removed from the equation. Real men are not nearly as expendable as poor Brett Reason has been misled to believe.
Kristine is willing to talk sports? Wow I’m so surprised the woman on a sports talk show will go to such crazy lengths
That ain't the man way 😂
Steve!!!! Protect, Provide, Profess. I am the price!
I also believe there are a lot of women who don't deserve a guy to pay for their meal because some women are just not worthy or they are just out for a free meal because they think it's a guys ''job'' to pay. I had a guy friend take a girl out he just met for their first date he took her to a seafood restaraunt and it cost him $150.This chick just took a lot of pics of the food for her instagram ( probably to make herself look good and rich) without obviously explaining to her followers that she was on a date.My poor friend didn't even score with her and didn't hear from her again..Seeing so many women are empowering themselves today and feel so independent then pay for your own damn food and stop expecting freebies..What is a guy supposed to expect from a woman then??.Also first dates should be just a coffee and then seeing if there is mutual ground and attraction before a guy can ask a girl out for lunch or dinner as a second date..
lots of women do this to avoid buying food and cooking, they date several guys each week, sr. women in FL do this a lot--saves on their grocery bill
If a woman “isn’t worthy” of treating to a meal or evening then don’t ask her on a date. Simple. The point is if you are asking then you are treating because that was the point of asking.
It is the whole generalizations about all women or men that gets me. Dating is very situational and person by person acting like you can have a bad experience and garb a paint brush is self destructive.
Just because I have a hard time letting a guy pay my meal on the first date, doesn’t mean I don’t like him. Yes once in a while if he wants to treat me, okay I just need to keep myself together and let him pay. But I want to do my share in the relationship as well. If he pays for the movie tickets, I will get the snacks. I don’t ask for much, out sometimes I need to learn how to give in.
I also feel like for the first date a women should at least offer the contribution and pay half.
Saarti Aipinge No.
for me, if a man invited you he should pay
Steve Harvey how many times have you been divorced what's that saying goes don't throw stones in a glass house I do not take advice from failure
I agree with Steve 100%. Men have forgotten how to really treat a woman when they’re first dating.
He should not provide a nut. It's a dam first date! It's not a life contract.
You shouldn't be going out on dates unless your goal is for there to be a potential life contract in the future.
If I can't pay for her I ain't taking her no where
I think guys should always pay for the 1st date but ladies, if you have zero intentions to see him again, thn go dutch.
I agree, it is a matter of integrity
If a man senses that the woman is not interested at the beginning of a date then the date was over right then and there and paying for the entire date is not on the table. The man should leave and pay his portion and leave because any time longer is just abusive behavior after the lost interest moment. Both sides should always cut the date short when either realizes there is no connection, you are just asking for trouble if you continue.
💙 Love 🌿🍃 damn girl right on! Well said!
I agree
but that's rude
Is it really that big of a deal to pay for your dates dinner? Maybe I've been lucky in dating, but this has never been an issue. Whoever asks, pays.
I’ll feel less of a man if I let a woman pay
Leon Nottingham why?
Leon Nottingham Then you're masculinity is fragile as hell and clearly you weren't much of a man in the first place if letting a woman pay for you hurts your ego that much.
Cash Cow nah it’s intact your just bum for not stepping up and being a man and comfortable with being the woman
Kenway you’re clearly a low life
Don't worry. They'll find another way to emasculate you.
She may say it's okay to have a whole bottle of wine on a first date, but men see that as a no go situation because it means she just wants to be a party drunk animal, and that's wrong, like if you want to purchase a bottle and bring it home with you that's fine but having in front of us isn't very pleasant or polite
I’m with Steve. Why would you NEED to pay for a first date?
I loved your comment that all men should provide..Love your show.
But then you have women who will willingly date a man they have to take care of lol
emmanuel dukes don't get these women upset bruh lol
Not this woman
Right, Diann is one of them, apparently.
They date them because they know they can control them.. Women's main priority in a relationship is control
You know what Steve, im born 91 male and don't 100% agree with you, but you're a man's man and i respect you so ill adopt your way. How about a tindet date tho? 😂
I WILL TALK SPORTS LIKE...... ummm........ she acting like shes giving up something or doing something crazy for a guy. if u dont wanna talk sports, then dont lol
“Don’t do sexual innuendo on the first date” lol I have and it ended in the bedroom🤷🏻♂️ don’t listen too women advice fellas!
Stay in your lane!!!!!!!!😂😂😂😂 Bang👉🔥
My biggest turn offs on a date.1.being obviously inebriated. 2.lack of hygiene. 3.not saying anything about other relationships,children, or conversely, over sharing about relationships and children. 4.being rude,obnoxious, cruel, abusive. 5.expecting sex immediately after meeting for the first time, ever. 6.not being upfront about finances.why pick a bougie, expensive restaurant, knowing damn well you can't afford tap water. Why. 7.excessive alcohol consumption.
Whomever invites, pays.
Fetch Quest fancy way of saying the man pays
Love how Steve is talking bout this like it’s some big political speech and he bout to start a revolution 😂