Thank you for generating this content! I recently took my eb70 on a 6-week road trip and charged it several times with my PV200 Bluetti panel. I watched this video and several of your others before the trip and so I was expecting that 150-160 input range for my charging. I really don't have a very good understanding of electricity and I'm trying to learn more because I would like to do a portable solar array that will eventually power an electric vehicle from the top of a bus. This equipment didn't let me down on my road trip and so I want to thank you for the guidance you've provided over not just this video but several others. Your explanations and reviews are both comprehensive and easy to understand. A lot of people look to RUclips to learn, and I really have appreciated turning to some of your reviews and videos to understand these products better as I've used them. 👍
I recently purchased one of these (eb70S) refurbished, directly from bluetti. Gas 2 year warranty & is like new. Paid $336 for it. I also bought a 195W fixed frame panel for $150. Charged it today In Connecticut, peak power indicated was 164W. It held 160W for a extended period of time. Love this setup!
I recently purchased my first power station, a Bluetti EB70S to power a CPAP machine in case of a power outage. I then discovered your channel, I'm impressed with all the great videos and information and I'm now subscribed. I hadn't considered a solar panel for charging my power station when I made the purchase but am now thinking about getting one. My only concern with a solar panel is that we have a lot of cloudy days in Wisconsin.
I`m happy with mine because it actually powers the 5 cubic ft freezer I bought that runs at about 84 watts after it settles down. I got two 100 watt Mighty Max solar panels and parallel connectors to charge it off grid. My Rockpals and Golabs 300 watt power stations show an error with the freezer...BUT....I can charge those while the Bluetti runs the freezer and use them to put about 540 watt hours back into the Bluetti when I need to. So they`ll work as a team if we get hit by two hurricanes again and this time my food is safe. Plus even on a very cloudy day two 100 watt panels in parallel can charge the smaller power stations at a decent speed. I bought poly panels instead of mono because they were cheaper but I plan to get a 100 watt mono panel soon for testing and for the rumored superior performance on hazy days. My small folding mono panels work even when it`s raining! LOL! There`s a great 100 watt 12 volt rice cooker on Amazon that works great with just about any power station.
This is definitely the best EB70 video on RUclips. Most importantly some useful info with regards the number of watts at various input voltages while charging, plus the total number of Wh and Ah DC. By the way, I can live with the 600, plus watt hour DC output figure for my use. My favorite part of this review was seeing the possibility of a 188 watt DC to DC charge rate. My own thoughts on this consumer grade, all-in-one, plug and play, compact power center, which is housed within a small plastic box is that it suffers from some cost engineering: *The underwhelming display was probably good enough for smaller/ less expensive Bluetti AC30 and AC50S * The Bluetti EB70 needs an Info button to briefly turn-on the display, please to avoid using the quirky function buttons * Are the quirky function buttons to turn-on the DC, AC inverter and front facing LED light legacy items from the AC30 or AC50S? * An 8 amp charging limit of this MPPT controller probably chosen to prolong the life span of some of the internal components are not pro-grade * None of the online reviewers have noted that the output cable of Blueitti's provided AC to DC power brick uses 18 AWG wiring - which is crazy for 200 watts * Why are we trying to squeeze 200 watts through that 8mm charging port versus either an Andersen or XT60 port? With all that said - I'm comfortable with running my 40 liter, 12 volt DC fridge on the EB70. The 8 Amp charging rate means that a fully depleted EB70 will need to be on whatever charging source for 6 to 8 hours - if the use of Bluetti's AC to DC regulated power brick is not feasible. (For me, it is definitely a limitation, but not a deal breaker). Don't tell anyone, but I love being able to plug my MacBook directly into the USB-C port. Thumbs up Bluetti! For now, I'm using the provided 32" long cable 12 volt cable for on the road charging via a fully fused, dedicated 10 AWG wiring run to the vehicle's battery. Unfortunately, I have to manually unplug it when the truck's engine is turned off. I'll definitely explore engineering a D.I.Y. 12 to 24 volt converter set up for DC to DC charging with the addition of an isolator between the vehicle's battery and EB70 so I no longer have to manually unplug the unit.
Sounds like an excellent setup Andrew! Thanks for sharing your thoughts on how you use your EB70. It does seem a bit consumer grade vs pro. The price is decent for where it stands. I just got back from a 3 day trip where I used a 45qt dual fridge and freezer on the EB70. It was only charged it via solar. Worked well!
@@Jasonoid Jason, I am very forgiving of EB70 because of its small size and weight. Space is at premium in a 4x4 vehicle. Your review of the EB 70 was on the money. I failed to mention where I am coming from. For the past six years I've relied on my trusty circa 2006 state of the art set up that requires the use of a 60 lb, Group 24, flooded lead acid AGM battery and it lacks either an MPPT or PWM controller. My DC to DC charging is via a second-hand purchase, CTEK fully automatic charger for in vehicle use . The entire package for this old-tech set up is much larger than either the EB70 or the D.I.Y ammo can auxiliary battery shown in your video. If you stay out of the Arizona desert this old-school monstrosity will definitely power my fridge for 36 hours during the summer months. The EB70 on the other hand is less than half the size and a third the weight. It'll probably power a fridge for 36 hours without a recharge.- (Plus, it includes an AC inverter and MPPT controller). - Two other major advantages noted so far in only two weeks of ownership and three day excursion is the EB70 does not require shutting things down when the battery reaches 12.1 volts or having to keep the battery on trickle charger when in storage mode to prevent sulfatation. My main problem with the EB70 at the moment is it definitely needs a tie down point or a special anchored cubby space to keep it from moving around.
Best review done by anybody on YT on this EB70. Good job you even showed the way to wire up a step up 12V to 24V battery charging to maximize the 8A input. That is very thorough, wish more reviwers used the appliances to test the full 700W like you did. Good job. Subbed!
This video is showing it's age, I think you'll enjoy my newer videos even more. Thanks for following, looking forward to seeing your comments in the future!
@Jasonoid - Solar Power, Batteries, and More! yes I will, but I'm still looking at getting a EB70 as it has 1000W these days, not 700W anymore, at least in the current 230/240V versions. That makes a huge difference as it can power a 6 quart Instant Pot. You were the only one who showed the capabilities of charging with a 12V to 24V step up hack. That's big, shows thinking outside the box..good job.
I just bit the bullet and bought the EB70 you recommended to me to power a small fridge during any power outage to ensure my hubby’s medicines that must stay refrigerated don’t get too warm…thank you for your guidance! Amazon has the EB70 marked down $100 during this Labor Day weekend to only $499 for anyone still needing one! I shopped via your link to help out your channel a little also!
I just tested my Eb70 in solid sunlight at 4pm eastern time , my SP200 got up to 155 watts, and the Bourgerv 180 made it to 148 watts. I think thats okay, considering all the factors you mentioned. Thank you for such excellent videos.
Bought it anyway, while others can't deliver to my address Bluetti did, those 'quirks' is personal taste and does not affect that the EB70 work for me or my wife. I live in the Caribbean and Amazon is very picky sending to my area. BTW bought the BougeRV and the Ac200p same reason availability and delivery. Great video.,,👍 Explaining the solar panel dilemma, im using a Siemmens SR 100 .
You made a great choice in my opinion. I have the Bluetti and I`ve been testing it with a small 5 cubic foot AC freezer and a 3.5 cubic foot AC refrigerator and it powers them perfectly. Even with two inexpensive 100 watt glass solar panels in parallel I believe you can still get nearly 150 watts into this thing. I need to test this soon and find out exactly what happens. The 2500 charge cycles to 80% capacity is a miracle! I`m in Louisiana and we were directly hit by two hurricanes last year. We lost all our food. The Bluetti is my insurance against that happening again. I don`t want to depend on an expensive gas generator when roads are blocked and gas is impossible to find. I also bought two 300 watt power stations for smaller things like 100 watt 12 volt rice cookers and immersion water heaters to make coffee and tea. I have 15 of the little power banks between 10,000 and 36,000 mAh I can charge with seven folding solar panels I have between 20 and 60 watts that have USB ports and USB universal chargers for my radio and flashlight batteries. I also bought three USB fans and several 5 watt warm white USB LED lights.
Wow.. good video. I have been looking at solar units for months. I camp with my grandchildren and would love to show them the eb70 in action. I want to explain to them how the sun can give us energy. Looks like a great product and would love to have a unit.
I've spent hours and hours watching these sort of videos and this has been the most helpful out of any I have watched. Just trying to set up my prius as a camper and I think I will go with the eb70 based on your review! Thank you so much!!!!
21:34 about the QUIRKS... I totally agree Jason... "OKAY Bluetti... when are you coming out with JASON'S version of what needs to be changed... I want to BUY one... You heard it here folks... "Chop... Chop" .... I need to get on the rode with my VT3.." (my 1972 Vintage Tiny Travel Trailer) I'll change and another "T to VT4 when I get my NEW & Improved Bluetti because the other "T" will be TRANSFORMER...
Thank you for your review. Customer service is important to me. I called customer service for Okmo, Jackary and Bluetii and all requested to leave a message during regular business hours. Been 2 hours and nobody has called me back. Okmo Help desk is in China. Nobody to speak to is disappointing
Well done, comprehensive review. I took advantage of some Prime Day pricing for the EB70 and SP200 so I don't feel too bad about the "quirks" and limitations. We'll use these when car camping with our Iceco VL45 and for powering some of my musical gear in places where a regular power source isn't available. It's really amazing to see how quickly this technology is evolving and it's exciting to think about the advances that will likely be coming in the next few years. Thanks again for a great review!
I think the latest versions have LED light indicators on the on off buttons. A lot of the quirks were most likely put in place to keep the price low. the great thing about this is the price/performance/functionality. Its great for that alone.
I was pretty harsh on this power station in the review but it's still my go to option for a weekend trip powering my fridge. Lots of capacity and decent solar charging!
Honestly, even with the drawbacks this unit is probably still the best value. I'd rather have a 200 watt solar panel that can max the unit out, vs something smaller. I love the small size and the LiFePO4 battery, this is going to be a life saver when mine finally arrives.
I was a little hard on it in my review, this is still my recommendation over many of the power stations available. Excellent inverter, LiFepO4 chemistry, tons of outputs, near 200 watts solar, it's an awesome battery!
@@Jasonoid That's perfect though, we really appreciate it. Best review of this unit out there, nobody else touches on the solar part of it which in my opinion, is just as important as everything else if not MORE important. I got the combo with the 200 solar panel, excited for when it finally arrives!
EXCELLENT VIDEO BRO! This is just what I have been Looking for. Very informative detailed review. I guess all I have to do now is buy this beast and see for myself. Thank you ☺️ LF73
I just found your channel and honestly the best review on this generator. I think I will buy a Jackery because being so new to solar I don't like the quirks. That was the deal breaker for me. Thank you
Very helpful video! Three questions: 1) Do the fans in the unit stay on when using DC output? 2) Does the unit cause noise with speaker systems? 3) Can you charge and use AC/DC at the same time?
Yes, you can charge it and use it at the same time The fans only turn on if there is a large load on the battery, I never noticed it while using the DC load output, just the AC output over 100 watts. As for noise for speaker systems, I haven't noticed anything in particular. Anything you want me to test?
The charger fan doesn't stop until you unplugged it. I would not just leave it over night to charge as the fan will keep on running eve. After it is fully charged. My does anyway
I was disappointed in his review because he never tested his actual solar panel on his unit. Thanks for watching! I love my EB70 even if it has a few quirks haha
I agree. This ia by far an awesome video. This covers so much that others have not.i won my EB70, not on the road yet when i am you video will help alot. So far testing stuff in apartment. My #1 need to run is my sewing machine and it does but not my iron..maybe I'm not doing it right. Still abit unsure which port to etc Buy your my #1 video. Thanks Jason
Most appliances that "heat up" will pull over 700 watts meaning you can use them on the smaller EB70 inverter. Some examples would be portable heaters, clothes irons, heat guns.... The list goes on and on. Just give each appliance a test on the inverter to make sure it works or not so you know when the power is out.
Bluetti ... Please don't make me buy a Jackery ... I know they're great... but there is just something about the Bluetti I love... I would LOVE the EB70 (next version) when you LISTEN To JASON, this man know what the people want... PLEASE LISTEN ...
Watching your button segment, it would have been GREAT to just make one of the buttons HOLD to activate or all of them considering that they dont have a screen on button. Also I dont think Bluetti designed this device. Have you seen the one with the bougerv branding I think....
Great video. I have had the EB70 for a month or so and you hit everything. The power gauge is an annoyance, there's a big difference between 21% and 40%. I would like the display to stay on, it can't take that much power. The 8 amp solar input is bogus but I can still get 150ish watts outta 2 panels so I can live with it. Overall, I love it and these annoyances are probably no more than I would have with anything I didn't build myself. That's next.
You can try it but it won't work. Trust me. Putting panels in parallel only combines the current/amps, the voltage stays the same. So no amount a paralleling panels will get you past the 8amp limit on the EB70. How do I know this? Because I have tried 300 watts of solar panels on my EB70. The only way to get 200 watts input on this power station is to have a solar panel that outputs the same voltage and amps as the wall charger... (25volts and 8 amps). The closest panel I have found that does that is a $275 renogy panel that has 22volts max peak voltage. I have yet to find a 12volt solar panel with a peak 24v-25v output. (24volt solar panels output near 32volts so those don't work, voltage would fry the circuit board).
@@Jasonoid I think your reply was to Bern Swonger. I understand it's almost impossible to get the full 200 watts without using Bluetti's own panels. No prob
Recently, I bought the newer Bluetti EB70S to run my Alpicool C20 portable frig. Realized on my first camping trip that I would need to buy a solar panel for my longer camping trips. I use my disburse camp as a home base taking multiple hikes in the same area so it’s a waste of time and gas for me to drive around to recharge the power station every other day. From watching your great solar panel test video with Jeff, I’m leaning towards Jeff’s favorite Baldr 120W Portable Solar Panel. My question is: you said the EB70 could not run solar panels in parallel nor in series. Why were you able to successfully charged the EB70 with your Rockpiles in parallel? I’m trying to decide whether to buy one 100W panel and add another if needed or just get a 200W now. Thank you and Jeff for creating this important content in an easy to understand format. Great Job!
Series is a no go on the EB70, but in this video I said parallel connections are just fine. You can connect two Baldr 120s up to the EB70 with no issues. You'll get around 150-165 watts depending on the conditions. The only challenge is connecting those two together in parallel since they don't come with an adapter. If you go with the BlueRise 120, it is cheaper and has MC4 connections and can be connected easily in parallel. Bluerise 120 performance here: ruclips.net/video/O2Ib2NXrsyw/видео.html See how to connect them in parallel here: ruclips.net/video/4JG8LvJznLY/видео.html
Dude. You’re assuming that the 200w solar panel can always produce its full rated capacity. It’s alway better to have more solar than what you need. That way if you have small bursts of sunlight you can maximise you solar charging where possible. Otherwise. Best review on you tube regarding these Bluetti. Well done man. Love the dc to dc idea.
Overpaneling these power stations is a great way to keep the maximum solar input going, even when conditions aren't perfect. I like to use a full 200 watt panel on the EB55 and the EB70 since the 8 amp limit. You can definitely go higher if needed, I have plugged in 400 watts of solar into my EB70 but it seemed I was wasting a bit of solar since I usually have pretty sunny conditions.
Glad it was helpful! I love my EB70! You get used to the quirks pretty quickly and they aren't so bad. Still one of the best Power Stations on the market at this size.
Hey great video very informative very detailed I love the testing that you do I'm fairly new to this so I'm learning a lot especially when you compare quality and price always want the best on a budget thanks God bless you.
Great review on this! I'm picking one up and appreciate all the info you gave regarding solar charging it. My question is if it can handle up to 28 volts, why couldn't you run 2 12v 100w panels in series?
Great question John! 12v panels actually don't match their name very well. They put out around 18v-24v depending on the brand, so they'd go over 28volts in series. 12 volt panels are designed to charge 12volt batteries and that's why they are named that way. This is an excellent power station and should work well for your needs. Check out my website for the latest discount codes on these products: jasonoid.com
I'm thinking to buy one(or two). Only thing draw back is, as you mentioned here, the poor UX(User Experience). And, as you mentioned here, ambiguous input limitation of Volts and Amps. It doesn't allow any serial or parallel connection of two solar panel. But, my God!, it is the LiFePO4! and MPPT!
You can parallel solar panels, you'll just top out at about 150-155 watts. When you over panel it like that you can have some "reserve" power available if solar conditions aren't ideal. This power station has really grown on me since this video!
I picked this battery (100%) for the LiFep04 and the $499 price point. If it was $150ish or $200 more I would have passed for something else. The display doesn't bother me! I'm not staring at it all day/night. I click the button; to see the current battery level and that's all I really want to know. BUT, I did test it on a 5 day camping trip and It was so slow to charge on the 12V outlet in my Honda Pilot. I even drove 4hrs straight and I only got roughly 20% charge back. SO I'm mixed on the results! I'm still going to keep it; but I have to figure out how to remedy this problem on my next trip. This battery needs to recharge faster on my SUV 12V outlet. That's my main problem with this battery.
@UCn799FaTeuf9lzDk78fwt6g I have to debate that in my head, not sure if I want to do that. But that won't be an issue when I get my new car. The Toyota Sienna and Highlander have 1500W inverters (as an option).
Thanks for the review. I just bought this to power a telescope during the night. Currently using a Jackery 240 and a mix of LiFEPO4 cells, but this will be much better. I can handle most of the quirks, but I wish they had a Display On button. that seems like gross oversight. Maybe I'll mask over the Torch (so it doesn't kill my night-vision) and then just use that power button to turn the display on.
Great Review on this. Was wondering about the a/c sockets. No one really talks about these. Also can an expandable battery (eg Bluetti B300) be used with the EB70?
Excellent video! I appreciate the review with different appliances! I still have not seen any videos with a regular house hold fridge. As I want to use this for backup during a power outage. Appreciate the comment below in regards to the freezer. Cheers Vancouver Island Canada 🇨🇦
Thanks James. If you want to run a household Fridge or other larger appliances for longer than an hour, it's going to require a bigger battery. Think about the BLUETTI AC200p or Ac300. Those are great options! I will be reviewing the Bluetti Ac200p on my channel in the coming month or so.
Love watching the video! Question I bought two BALDR 120W because I saw your other video on the panels… Would they work with the eb70? Would I have to buy any extra wires to connect them together? Also any advise on long connection wires so I can have the panel in the sun and the eb70 in the shade. Trying to learn as much as I can with all the videos. I live in Miami🌪😳 Thank you so much!
Another thorough review. Thanks. I wonder if the curve on the fridge run times with the 70/85 ambient temperature is a linear or exponential curve. I live in Arizona and curious about the run time with 95F days. Also what is best practice. Should you run down Lithium and LiPO batteries to zero on a regular basis? I thought I saw if you just run it down to 50% you can get many, many more cycles on both types of batteries.
It could be linear for sure. This pattern is almost exact on all the fridges I have tested. Just remember once you hit a certain temperature the fridge compressor is just running full time on ECO mode, which is usually 33 watts or so, so at least if you plan for a constant 33 watts you'll be good. You can run LiFeP04 down to 20% capacity without permanent damage. I'm hoping the BMS inside the EB70 is taking that into account. I'm sure it is and that's why we aren't seeing a full 716wh on the testing. I only run it this dry on my tests, I always try to keep it topped off while camping because you never know when clouds will show up! Haha (I've had that happen before and had to get creative!)
See Will Prowse videos about lithium batteries or batteryuniversity. Never store or leave these at full charge for long. If you charge it to 100% run it down to below 90% right away. The last 10% of charge is hard on the battery. Keep charge cycles between 20% and 80% or 30% and 70% to get many more charge cycles but run these down to zero and fully recharge from time to time to keep the battery cells balanced and display calibrated. Never try charging below freezing (using is ok) and avoid excessive heat.
Hi, Thanks a ton for a super fine video...I know nothing of electricity/solar and its quite a learning curve! I have to visit my ill father in the next month, using my Highlander for the roadtrip. I think I'll buy the EB70, and the IceCo 45. Question 1: Is it wiser to buy the 2-100w portable solar panels than 1 of the 200w panels if space is an issue? How about if, long term, I upgrade to Bluetti AC200P? Would the 200w panel be better than 2-100W? Next Question: if I buy the EB70, which rigid solar panels would be best (weather wise) to temporarily attach on top of my Highlander for "on the go" solar charging for this 2 week trip? (would that be better than DC charging in my car cig lighter?). Question 3: When I get to dad's, I can use an extension cord from my car (where EB70 would be attached to my fridge) to my dad's house? Which extension cord would you recommend??? Thanks in advance for your kindness and help. :)
Hey DeAnna lets see if I can answer all of your questions: 1) When thinking about solar panels, it's best to have the same exact model when putting them together in a array so either a couple 100 watt panels or a single 200 watt panel will work just fine you just want to make sure that when you upgrade, you purchase the same panel again and again so the voltages and output match each other. I would probably go with one 200 watt panel to start out with. 2) When using the DC charging on the EB70 you'll get about 80 - 100 watts charging. With the solar input you'd see about 150 - 160 watts in great solar conditions. Both charging options work but you will see MORE power via solar charging. When looking to purchase a solar panel for the EB70 you will want one that has a slightly higher voltage for the best output. I would recommend this RichSolar 200 watt solar panel: amzn.to/3lepwSY 3) As the for the extension cord, would you be using it to charge the EB70 up off his home AC power with the included wall charger? So you would be running AC power from his house to your car? In that case you can use any extension cord that's at least 12awg. Something like this would work well: amzn.to/3AgBu2O Hope this information helps you on your journey! Good luck, let me know if you have any other questions!
Would love to see some specific solar pairing suggestions for this unit for us meatheads who can get overwhelmed by the numbers. Fantastic info though!
Check out my new XTAR sp100 review, or the Elecaenta 120 review. I have both units tested with this EB70, they work really well. I also have the PV200 tested on this unit, all newer videos on the channel
This is the first video that mentioned 8A charging max current. I wish they had at least 10A, and up to 40V max voltage, so you could connect panels in series
Great vids man, I have learned a lot from your channel. Question: If youre charging off the solar panels, and the sun disappears behind a cloud big enough to drop the input to 0, will the battery automatically turn off? I have a power station that has some kind of "saftey feature" that does this. Makes it so you are constantly checking to make sure it didnt turn off because youre in the middle of nowhere and now anxious about your fridge getting turned off!
The EB70 has a power setting called ECOmode that will shut off the fridge if nothing pulls power for 40 minutes. I just make sure this mode is disabled and it works perfect for running a 12v fridge. The power station will charge anytime power comes into the charging port and doesn't shut off if no solar is coming in. No need to worry :)
Hoping I can return my eb55 and get this one. I made the mistake of not comparing these two and with it only being $60 more for the eb70, I think it's worth it.
I bought an EB70S based in part on your recommendation and it was a good choice. My question to you what would be a good solar panel to mount permanently on the roof rack on my 4Runner?
I would go with a glass rigid panel for the most durability. Try to get the most solar you can fit, maybe a 200 watt panel will fit? Flexible panels and portable panels break down over time so I wouldn't recommend those for a roof mount. BougeRV has a few great panels and I have a 13% off discount code for any of them on their website (JasonoidLLC). Rich Solar and HQST also make great 100/200 watt panel options.
Jason, when I pulled both above and below 500 wh with two watt meters in three tests I complained endlessly until *Bluetti sent me another one. So I got two of them for 250 each* LOL! I`m in hurricane country so it`s a great pair to have but many of my other power stations charge FASTER with solar than the AC charger. A lot of them do. But not the Bluetti. And NO power station rated at 716 wh should EVER only pull only 450 wh when powering a freezer. Then the next test might be 520. Then 480. My 516 wh 500 watt Bawaut powers a dorm fridge for HOURS longer than the 716 wh Bluetti every time. WIFI too. The Bluetti powers my WIFI for 48 hours. Add another 24 hours to the Bawaut run time. And because of the wireless charger the USB doesn`t power my fans very long with the Bluetti...about the same run time as the Golabs R300. The Bluetti has thousands of charge cycles though so it`s a valuable device that saves on fuel costs for what I need it for. Capacity of the AC ports was disappointing but the 700 watt inverter is big enough to handle the compressor surge of my small box freezers so that`s its job and it`s a very important thing when you grow your own food and freeze wild fruits and fish. These foods are simply irreplaceable at the store and by August/September when hurricanes hit my freezer has a LOT of wild fish, berries, and Spring/Summer vegetables stored in it like okra and squash. Try buying 3 gallons of blackberries at the store. And here in Louisiana I grow greens, rutabagas, turnips, cabbage, kohlrabi, beets, and snow peas in Winter when there`s no need for pesticides and I store them in the freezer. Plus I use many natural fertilizers along with some supplemental commercial fertilizer too if needed to greatly increase nutritional content missing from the supermarket. I don`t want these foods from the store.
@@Jasonoid Phone/internet company is giving me issues about connecting service to my camper and I haven`t moved in yet. No cell phone service here and the only way to live without communications with my doctors and banking is to live completely off grid without money. Evil monsters. I`m on disability and they`re breaking the law. And people wonder what causes people to snap.
thanks for your review.. since now in Cali we have rolling black out.. lol I ordered the eb55 and got the elecaenta panels . Im also waiting for my solar co to call me back to see what options I have to switch everything over to a socket if the power goes out. I cant afford a 10K power wall, but I'm confused at the process. If I can get one working socket to use the panels on the roof then I might be able to power the full size fridge in my garage. or power the eb55 and other things.. Im a rookie at all this.. ahhh
We all got to start someone to be prepared for power outages, the EB55 is a great starting point! Solar is something you learn one step at a time, RUclips has some AWESOME resources to help you learn :)
That 500 some odd watt hours is kinda what I saw during a casual test that I did. I was a bit disappointed and it made me wonder if they sent Hobotech a "good" unit. Keyword is just a bit.
Pretty interesting right?! I wonder why he didn't test the EB70 with his SP200 solar panel either? Well I was happy with the DC output results and that's how I plan to use it most of the time. It's got some quirks that need to be fixed on a "newer" version but other than that it's a decent battery for powering my 12v fridges. Better than the Jackery 500 in my opinion and it's priced just a little higher.
Should be fine to run it through the night as long as you don't have the humidifier setting enabled. That setting uses much more power. Each CPAP is different but many users say they have used them successfully on this power station.
By my math the capacity is 660-665 wh with the AC inverter using 7-8 wh. So, draining the battery in an hour will give you about 655 wh and draining the battery in 20 hours will give you about 510 wh.
That must be part of the explanation of why Hobotech got 89% efficiency from AC and Jason got much lower. I couldn't see at what current draw Hobotech drained his unit.
Hey Jason, thanks a ton for this!! Based on your videos, I put together a Bluetti EB70s, Iceco VL45, and 100w panel for my truck camping setup. For a monthlong road trip in August, we only charged the battery off the roof mounted solar. We charged phones lights GoPro and a speaker and ran the fridge continuously at around 38°F. The battery went below 50% on just a few nights despite many partly cloudy and rainy days in the mountain west. It was perfect! My question is this: how would you recommend insulating or heating the battery for winter camping? Documentation says it will discharge down to well below freezing, but must be 32 or above to charge. I’ll usually only spend 2-3 days in the mountains in California, so I think it might be ok doing nothing, it can charge when I get back to 50° home temps. What would you recommend?
Since the power station creates some heat while in use, you could always find a small insulated lunch bag and put the power station in it while it's really cold and it should stay warm enough to charge the batteries safely.
Thanks for sharing the tip about using a 12V-24V 10 amp converter to charge the EB70 in about the same amount of time as it takes from the wall charger. Great idea for faster charging the EB70 in my minivan. So then I started wondering if using a 300W DC 12V to 110V AC Car Inverter plugged into the cigarette lighter would work? The EB70 wall charger would be plugged into the inverter. But would that setup fry anything or burn any fuses?
You can run the AC charger off an inverter, however you'll need to run power directly from the battery with larger wiring because most auto cigarette plugs only support 10amps or around 120 watts. Since the AC inverter has the potential to pull 300 watts you'd blow the fuse when trying to run the charger off a stock cig plug. I ran 6 awg wires from my battery and now I can hook up a 300 watt inverter and do what you are describing.
@@Jasonoid Thank you the fast reply. You're like a personal consultant and your videos are great! Would you include an additional fuse in the inverter wiring, like for a converter? And 12 gauge for the converter but 6 gauge for the inverter?
You'd connect your 300 watt inverter to the 6 awg wire, which connects from your battery. It would be a good idea to fuse that connection (near the battery). The AC charger would just plug into the inverter wouldn't it? No need for additional wiring.
@@Jasonoid Just one more concern please. The 6 gauge wire from the battery will run about 10 feet to the inverter just behind the front seats in my minivan. That’s where my fridge and Eb70 are located. But the inverter wires are much thinner than the 6 gauge coming from the battery. So, after I cut off the cigarette plug from the inverter, how do I connect the inverter wire to the 6 gauge? Can I use Anderson Power poles? Also what size fuse should I use up near the battery? Much obliged!
@@MichaelKarsh09 6 awg wire can handle 50amps, so i'd install a 50 amp fuse on that line. Maybe you can install a fuse block that will allow you multiple connections? Since it can handle 50 amps, you could hard wire in the inverter into the fuseblock and put a 30 amp fuse on that one connection. Maybe something like this: amzn.to/3kVw5K4 (or smaller, I have one with 6 connections)
Love your videos. What gauge wire would you use to connect one if those 12v to 24v step up convertors to your car battery? Should you add an inline fuse to this wire?
12 gauge wire will support 20 amps just fine, if it's over a really long run you may want to do 10 awg wire to avoid too much voltage drop (over 20 feet). A fuse would be a great addition for safety
the jury is still out on the EB70 as far as i am concerned. owned it for about a year. was very dissapointed at first, cause the power bar seems to drain very quickly with light duty loads such as my laptop or desktop monitor which i use with my laptop. it does however seem to go into survival mode (on ECO mode) when it gets down to zero percent. i was surprised last week when it kept going and going when the bar reached zero. so will have to test it further (i have tended to recharge before it drains completely. all in all though just haven't been impressed with this. recharges quickly though, 3.5 hours which is very good. AC50s which i also own, recharges fully in 7 hours.
Nice video, was very helpful. One thing that would be good to include is the weight, and maybe weight to capacity ration for comparing to others? Have you tested the wireless charging of these units? I'm looking to replace my ArkPak 730P which has 120AGM battery. Would this be equivalent in Battery storage capacity? Oh do you see any issue using Anderson plug to the MC4 adapter (my solar blankets only have Anderson connections. Luckily this is available in Australia, but one has two AC outputs (240v, which is fine, but they are 1000W)
Hey Scott, this is one of the first review videos I had done so it was a bit unorganized. The wireless charging works great! I have since come up with a power station grading system you can view here on my website: jasonoid.com/powerstations/ It works best on a desktop vs mobile phone screen. It has everything you'd want to know about all the power stations I have tested.
Great review! Everything I needed to know, would a goal zero solar panel plug into the unit ok? It seems to have the same plug on the end of my nomad 50 that would direct;y into the unit?
Enjoyed your video and being so honest. Need your help I just bought a Jackery300 and what solar panel would you reccomend brand I think it can only do one 100watt panel. I don't want a expensive one I am new to this and have my eye on the bluetti Eb70 hopefully they will do the adjustments as you and many say if not it's my next one once I know what I am doing don't want to fry anything but eggs lol
It looks like the Jackery uses an 8mm charging port. If you purchased the Baldr or Rockpals panels in the other video that end it Anderson PowerPole, you might be able to use this adapter: www.amazon.com/LIXINTIAN-Connector-Compatible-Anderson-Powerpole/dp/B08BKKK89V/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=anderson+to+8mm+connector&qid=1624547220&sr=8-5
I'm sure other product will come out soon if you hold out a little bit longer. No need to rush to buy one that isn't perfect for you! Thanks for watching :D
hey mate great review. but I have a question. can you use the station while its being charged by solar or wall socket? so that the fridge can keep getting powered? that's probably my biggest concern. cheers!
That should work fine as well, the DC 12v to 24v will be a little more efficient but both will charge at higher rates. The inverter/ac charger is definitely more convenient haha.
I cant remember what the voltage rating on the rockpals was, I think it was around 24 volts as well, based on your last video. I wonder if you put a volt meter between the parallel cable and the power station....what voltage would it show on the SP200 and the two rockpals. Fun tidbit that you probably know, you can use a parallel cable without the other panel in it. So you wouldnt have to shuffle around wires too much.
The rockpals panels are rated slightly less volts than the SP200. I think 19v vs 20v. But who knows if the specs are accurate because the bluetti "should" be putting out more power but it's not.
Show me that solar panel wattage matters. Run the Bluetti SP200 panel with a mpt charge controller to see if you can get more out of the panel. Maybe 20 watts more.
Watch my other 11 solar panel comparison video, max wattage we got out of it was 168 watts, way under advertised amount. Video was released earlier this year on my channel
Besides the benefits of fire safety on lifep04 or Lfp. People over advertise the charge cycle of Lfp batteries. Yes, the battery might last 1000's of cycles. The rest of the the features like inverter, mppt controller, bms, usb, displays, switches could all fail well before the first 1000 cycles. No different than advertising 25,,000 hours of life on led bulbs. Converters go out well before first 1000 hours. For packing around, I prefer NMC power stations over Lfp for their size, weight, and more energy density. Lfp are great for stationary settings for off grid , Rv, or power backup.
Hey LinVanGo, one cycle is when you use the battery from full to empty and then charge it back up fully. So 2000 cycles. The EB70 would work well with the Bluetti PV120 running a fridge. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Just received my EB70 based on your review. My Alpicool is coming with the cigar-plug. Do you have any idea what is the connector type on the fridge (the square one)? I'd like to find a cable from fridge (square plug) to EB70 5.5mm.
Option 1) Buy this adapter from 12v socket to 5521 and just tape the cables together so they don't come apart during a road trip....ghetto but cheap and easy: amzn.to/3DZc1xK Option 2 ) You can buy a replacement 12v fridge cable to use a "donor" cable, and then attach a 5521 barrel plug on it via stripping the wire or soldering the connection: amzn.to/3BSK4WS amzn.to/3nchMCw Or this option.... amzn.to/3zVNirP Hope this helps!
Jason, I have the Eb70s. A very nice machine. I was wondering after watching your video, can I parallel 3 HQST 100 watt panels together on the unit? Just as you did with the 3 panels in the video. Also should I put a load on the machine while charging?? Thank you!!
Sup g-radz! You can 'overpanel' the EB70s with 300 watts of panels in parallel. The EB70 will use the power it needs and the rest will sit as reserve power waiting to be used in case solar conditions aren't perfect. You'll be able to get the max power input more frequently as you do this. You do not need to put a load on the battery while charging.
@@Jasonoid aka J-Watts!!!! Thank you for the quick response. Still trying to get parallel and series together. This was the 2nd purchase off of your recommendations. Oupes 600 was the other. Very happy with both. Thank you again for your amazing reviews and lighting quick replies!!! You da Man!!
@@g-radzpoweredbytheson75 HAHA, nice... J-Watts. There's lots to learn about with these solar applications. Just make sure you use only a parallel connection on the EB70. Parallel is when you connect pos to pos and neg to neg = voltage stays the same, current goes up. Series is when you connect pos to neg and you use the other pos and neg for a solar output = voltage goes up, current stays the same.
Unfortunately there aren't any on the market that will do 25 volts and 8 amps under load. It's a small design flaw in power station, still charges much faster than the Jackery 500. You would have to find a panel that has 28 volts short circuit voltage, I haven't found anything.
Would it be possible to hook the boost converter up to the output of a solar charge controller? That controller takes the varying power from the panel and converts it down to a constant voltage source to charge the battery. Boost converter should bump that to 24v right? Continuing on with that thought. Do they just make a solar charge controller that takes a 12v panel and buck/boosts it to output 24v to charge a 24v battery off a 12v panel. That would be the whole shebang all in one box really.
Hey Piquat1, great suggestion! I actually tried using the same DC to DC converter (12v to 24v) with a solar panel and it did not like the solar output. Maybe the input voltage was too high? They are meant for 12v and the solar panel was putting in about 19volts. I was disappointed when it didn't boost the voltage at all. I was thinking something like this would work well, it's just pricey: www.amazon.com/dp/B07Q5XBV92/?coliid=I3QJY7GIWHFUJ5&colid=120YSRAZEF7E8&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it You could set the output voltage to 28 volts and max out the EB series with solar if that was the case.
What about charing it from a 12v source while it is running a 12v appliance? My use case is I want to plug the Bluetti into my 12v outlet in my truck to keep it charging while at the same time plugging my Dometic fridge into the 12v outlet on the Bluetti. So when the truck is running it is keeping the Bluetti topped off. When I stop somewhere for a while, the Bluetti keeps my fridge running.
@@Jasonoid I should have mentioned the mfg, when answering questions on Amazon, says pass through charging can shorten the battery life. I don't understand how that is when every solar installation in the world that uses batteries both charging and discharging at the same time. Most van/rv lifers run things off their batteries at the same time that solar panels are charging them. Does the equipment used by the Bluetti cause this to be a problem?
@@gregmacklem Being a LiFepo4 battery inside it will still last much longer than other battery chemistries like lithium ion....at least my hope is that way. I haven't had mine long enough to know. I think it will shorten the life if you are using the full 700 watts and trying to charge it at 200 watts at the same time, all the time. If you are running a 12v fridge at 30 watts, and charging at 100 watts, I doubt this will do much damage.
Jasenoid, great review! Are you saying that one can definitively not charge it via two 100w panels, or that you CAN (say, in series), but that one won't hit the maximum capacity, that it'll essentially cap it around 150 watts?
@@Jasonoid Would you believe I just spoke to a rep at Bluetti and he told me specifically NOT to charge in parallel, but only in series? He said as long as each of the two panels is between 18-24 volts, it should be fine for parallel, but that "series" is out of the question. He said that the voltage remains the same whether it's one or two panels. That said, I am not ready to take his word over yours, as he was interrupting me, seemed almost defensive about the 8 amp limit, and kept chalking up all the 8 amp limit hoo-ha here and with other RUclips'd reviews as people just wanting "no waiting time" to charge things. Not what I expected from customer service. Your thoughts? And, if I hook them up in parallel, will I just lose a little capacity, whatever's over the 8 amp limit?
@@PhenomenalWorld sounds like he doesn't know how series solar connections work....(series doubles the voltage, and parallel doubles the current) He's probably not familiar with the EB70. Other larger bluetti power stations do accept series solar panel connections BUT the EB70 does NOT. 12v Panels in series will be over 30v which will fry the control board.... Wow. Sounds like a knowledgeable guy haha. And parallel connections are just fine with this power station. 140 watts from two parallel panels is better than 100watts from 1 panel. I'd always try to use two panels and ride that 8amp limit.
@@Jasonoid Sounds like I definitely didn't speak to the right guy. At one desperate point, I said (politely) "I called to speak to one of the people in the tech dept. Is that you?". Yes, he said, but from the difference in your take (unless of course YOU are the delusional one), it can't possibly be SO, or he just wasn't versed in the EB70. I'm relieved to hear I can at least juice this bad boy up with 140 watts. That's nothing to sneeze at, in my little mini-van rig. And my limited experience says I'd be lucky to hit 70 watts apiece all the time with two 100w panels anyhow, even with good sun. Anyhow, I appreciate you responses and review, very helpful!
@@PhenomenalWorld you looking to use ridgid glass panels in your setup? I found a Renogy 200 watt solar panel that has a higher voltage and might be able to provide about 170 to 180 watts instead of 140 watts. I haven't tested my theory but I will eventually have a video on it.
Would the SP 120 panel be enough to charge this if you are just powering a 12V fridge? Im debating to go with the EB 70 or EB55. What are your thoughts?
The sp 120 is an excellent panel for charging up the these power stations. I also have a budget solar panel video from a couple weeks ago, check that out if you want to buy a panel that puts out the same power for much less money!
OH BOY... I was so set on this ... or maybe the BIG Brother... and after your review... now I'm not so certain. HUM? Have you heard of the EB70 MAX? Is that the New one that is supposed to be coming out? I had heard that Bluetti was bringing out 2 new Power Stations. Have you heard anything bout that rumor?
I'm sure they will have a 1000wh model soon, I'd wait to see how they improve these models! These units (EB55 and EB70) are great but if they made a few changes they would be that much better!
@@Jasonoid Have you heard ANYTHING about the NEW Models, or when they're coming out? I'm still working on my VT3 (1972 Vintage Tiny Travel Trailer)... I'll need something around the end of Sept... or the beginning of Oct/21... I"d like to hold out and get something a little bit bigger than the EB70 but not as big (because I can't lift it) the AC200P... I really like the EB70, but it does need a few more things... And Please forgive me for asking this question again... but I can't find the notes I took when I had asked you about which "Fixed" panels (I thought they were glass) to use if I did get the EB70... I know you like the RockPal... is it the P802? or what Jeff liked the Baldr? (I don't know what extra # that is). I'm going off memory). The question is How many "Fixed" or how many watts panels can I use with the EB70? I want to "FIX" the panels on top of the VT3... not to make it portable. Thank you again for another great video... Thank you so much for helping people like me, to be more independent... I am going to be living in this VT3... I need to make it Livable... I'm 66 years old... I deserve to do this the best I can... I don't need to be "Glam" camping, I"m a country girl, I've been camping and have lived in many different RVs, Cab-over Campers, Travel Trailers... but I have always wanted to do Solar... I just realized I might have already told you (my life history) LOL before if I have, please disregard... Thank you Jason (Did YOU know that the Name "Jason" (my son's name is Jason) means "HEALER" ...
I haven't heard anything about new models so I wouldn't expect to see anything very soon. Maybe by Christmas? So probably decide on which one will work best for you, I think the EB70 is a great option! As for glass panels I'd recommend using 200 watts or 300 watts of rigid glass solar panels for your trailer. That would allow you to get full solar power most of the time. The brand doesn't matter too much, just as long as they are 12v panels and wired in parallel
@@Jasonoid OMGosh... Thank YOU so much again... So I can go up to 300 watts!!! That is great. and it is GLASS panels... yeah I wasn't wrong... lol. (Trying to learn the lingo)... Well shoot... I was hoping they BLUETTI would come out of YOUR upgraded version... everything you (nitpicked) on was SPOT On... I still have a "FEELING" they are working on a new one... We need something BETWEEN the EB70 and the 200P... that is one heck of a price jump from the EB70 to the 200P. Personally... I'd rather have the 200P... but it is very heavy (60 LBS) and that is okay, because you can just put it in one place... if you're using it on a daily basis... BUT what I don't get is... WHY... is there so few plug ins? The EB70 has all these beautiful plugins and the 220P has very few... What's up with that???
@@Jasonoid sweet good to know. One more question, can you tell rest of people that I'm subscribed to to reply to me like you do in timely manner? :), thanks man i appreciate it.
Hi! Great review bro! I just got my eb70 and was wondering if it is normal that the fans turn on when solar input is great. I got a 100w 12v solar panel and when input is over 80 w it turns on and when goes under 80w fan turns off. Is it normal? I dont want to burn it. I hear same sound of the generator in your video. Cheers
Hey Alvaro, it's normal that the fan kicks on when solar input is higher than 80watts. Both my EB70 and EB55 do that. It helps keep the charge controller cool and will last longer.
Question, What's been you experience with the 20% meters. We may have talked about this but I forgot what you shared. I need to find the box and look at their explanation of what the bars mean but I dont feel like its super accurate.
You talking about the display only having 20% chunks? Yeah, it's not super accurate. One of the downsides of the EB70. It seems to last longer below 40% than the top 60% of the battery indicator. Like it jumps down pretty fast then stays at 40% and 20%and 0% longer.
@@Jasonoid nah I mean does 20% accurately represents that portion of power. 616 / 5 = 123 I imagine it's a little more complicated than that but it seems unfair to divide the stick watt hours Yanno.
@@AskIveSolar The power curve for LiFepo4 cells is a bit flat so trying to calculate the power remaining is a bit tuff. Not sure if any company has mastered it yet. I wish the display showed the voltage of the cells because you could calculate when it's low pretty easy if it was visible on the EB70. Its much easier on a lead acid battery where the discharge curve is a diagonal line and 10% of storage is equivalent to 0.1 volts or something like that.
@@Jasonoid yeah it's an odd one. I'm starting to wonder if anyone has done a good job with it but who am I kidding, there aren't that many. GoLabs R300 seems decent at it but I never paid close attention because it has a percentage read out.
@@AskIveSolar I'm sure we will see Jackery release a LiFePo4 battery soon enough.....someone was hinting to it on my channel the other day. They probably will learn from all these first gen power stations and hopefully do a better job! :D
Jasonoid…I hate to bother you but I need some technical advice…I received my EB70 and had it 3 weeks and the display panel has failed. The company has said they will refund my money or replace it. My gut says get a refund but I’m not sure that is the best thing to do. Maybe I should and put a little more $$ with it and get a better one but I’m not sure. I just don’t want to keep having trouble with a Bluetti or did I just get a 🍋 model? Thank you for your advice!
I haven't had any issues with my EB series so I am leaning towards the "replace it" option with another EB70 and see how it goes. Other power station options aren't all that spectacular and I feel each brand has the chance of getting a lemon. How did you like it for the 3 weeks you had it? Did it fulfill your needs well? Do you need something bigger?
@@Jasonoid Thank you for the advice Jason! After speaking with hubby and reading him your reply, he felt it best we let them replace the EB70. We would love to have a larger unit eventually but the weight of those units is of concern to us at our ages. Again thank you and blessings to you and your family!
@@firegirl441fromga6 Im glad Bluetti stood behind their product. Thanks for sharing this experience so I know that they do indeed replace broken items if it happens. Keep me updated on the progress!
well i got 28 hours total running my desktop monitor (draws 12 to 13 watts consistently) which i use with my HP Laptop. this is great capacity? don't know.
That's a pretty good runtime. Also remember that having the AC inverter enabled uses a little background power. To keep the battery topped off during the day, I always have solar plugged in somehow.
Thank you for generating this content!
I recently took my eb70 on a 6-week road trip and charged it several times with my PV200 Bluetti panel. I watched this video and several of your others before the trip and so I was expecting that 150-160 input range for my charging. I really don't have a very good understanding of electricity and I'm trying to learn more because I would like to do a portable solar array that will eventually power an electric vehicle from the top of a bus. This equipment didn't let me down on my road trip and so I want to thank you for the guidance you've provided over not just this video but several others. Your explanations and reviews are both comprehensive and easy to understand. A lot of people look to RUclips to learn, and I really have appreciated turning to some of your reviews and videos to understand these products better as I've used them. 👍
The best eb70 video out there by far trust me I’ve seen every single one
Thanks for checking it out! I appreciate the compliment!
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I recently purchased one of these (eb70S) refurbished, directly from bluetti. Gas 2 year warranty & is like new. Paid $336 for it. I also bought a 195W fixed frame panel for $150. Charged it today In Connecticut, peak power indicated was 164W. It held 160W for a extended period of time. Love this setup!
I recently purchased my first power station, a Bluetti EB70S to power a CPAP machine in case of a power outage.
I then discovered your channel, I'm impressed with all the great videos and information and I'm now subscribed.
I hadn't considered a solar panel for charging my power station when I made the purchase but am now thinking about getting one.
My only concern with a solar panel is that we have a lot of cloudy days in Wisconsin.
Solar is a great addition to any of these power stations :) Then you can get power in a more portable way.
I`m happy with mine because it actually powers the 5 cubic ft freezer I bought that runs at about 84 watts after it settles down. I got two 100 watt Mighty Max solar panels and parallel connectors to charge it off grid. My Rockpals and Golabs 300 watt power stations show an error with the freezer...BUT....I can charge those while the Bluetti runs the freezer and use them to put about 540 watt hours back into the Bluetti when I need to.
So they`ll work as a team if we get hit by two hurricanes again and this time my food is safe. Plus even on a very cloudy day two 100 watt panels in parallel can charge the smaller power stations at a decent speed. I bought poly panels instead of mono because they were cheaper but I plan to get a 100 watt mono panel soon for testing and for the rumored superior performance on hazy days. My small folding mono panels work even when it`s raining! LOL!
There`s a great 100 watt 12 volt rice cooker on Amazon that works great with just about any power station.
This is definitely the best EB70 video on RUclips. Most importantly some useful info with regards the number of watts at various input voltages while charging, plus the total number of Wh and Ah DC. By the way, I can live with the 600, plus watt hour DC output figure for my use.
My favorite part of this review was seeing the possibility of a 188 watt DC to DC charge rate.
My own thoughts on this consumer grade, all-in-one, plug and play, compact power center, which is housed within a small plastic box is that it suffers from some cost engineering:
*The underwhelming display was probably good enough for smaller/ less expensive Bluetti AC30 and AC50S
* The Bluetti EB70 needs an Info button to briefly turn-on the display, please to avoid using the quirky function buttons
* Are the quirky function buttons to turn-on the DC, AC inverter and front facing LED light legacy items from the AC30 or AC50S?
* An 8 amp charging limit of this MPPT controller probably chosen to prolong the life span of some of the internal components are not pro-grade
* None of the online reviewers have noted that the output cable of Blueitti's provided AC to DC power brick uses 18 AWG wiring - which is crazy for 200 watts
* Why are we trying to squeeze 200 watts through that 8mm charging port versus either an Andersen or XT60 port?
With all that said - I'm comfortable with running my 40 liter, 12 volt DC fridge on the EB70. The 8 Amp charging rate means that a fully depleted EB70 will need to be on whatever charging source for 6 to 8 hours - if the use of Bluetti's AC to DC regulated power brick is not feasible. (For me, it is definitely a limitation, but not a deal breaker).
Don't tell anyone, but I love being able to plug my MacBook directly into the USB-C port. Thumbs up Bluetti!
For now, I'm using the provided 32" long cable 12 volt cable for on the road charging via a fully fused, dedicated 10 AWG wiring run to the vehicle's battery. Unfortunately, I have to manually unplug it when the truck's engine is turned off. I'll definitely explore engineering a D.I.Y. 12 to 24 volt converter set up for DC to DC charging with the addition of an isolator between the vehicle's battery and EB70 so I no longer have to manually unplug the unit.
Sounds like an excellent setup Andrew! Thanks for sharing your thoughts on how you use your EB70. It does seem a bit consumer grade vs pro. The price is decent for where it stands.
I just got back from a 3 day trip where I used a 45qt dual fridge and freezer on the EB70. It was only charged it via solar. Worked well!
@@Jasonoid Jason, I am very forgiving of EB70 because of its small size and weight. Space is at premium in a 4x4 vehicle. Your review of the EB 70 was on the money.
I failed to mention where I am coming from. For the past six years I've relied on my trusty circa 2006 state of the art set up that requires the use of a 60 lb, Group 24, flooded lead acid AGM battery and it lacks either an MPPT or PWM controller. My DC to DC charging is via a second-hand purchase, CTEK fully automatic charger for in vehicle use . The entire package for this old-tech set up is much larger than either the EB70 or the D.I.Y ammo can auxiliary battery shown in your video. If you stay out of the Arizona desert this old-school monstrosity will definitely power my fridge for 36 hours during the summer months.
The EB70 on the other hand is less than half the size and a third the weight. It'll probably power a fridge for 36 hours without a recharge.- (Plus, it includes an AC inverter and MPPT controller). - Two other major advantages noted so far in only two weeks of ownership and three day excursion is the EB70 does not require shutting things down when the battery reaches 12.1 volts or having to keep the battery on trickle charger when in storage mode to prevent sulfatation.
My main problem with the EB70 at the moment is it definitely needs a tie down point or a special anchored cubby space to keep it from moving around.
Best review done by anybody on YT on this EB70. Good job you even showed the way to wire up a step up 12V to 24V battery charging to maximize the 8A input. That is very thorough, wish more reviwers used the appliances to test the full 700W like you did.
Good job. Subbed!
This video is showing it's age, I think you'll enjoy my newer videos even more. Thanks for following, looking forward to seeing your comments in the future!
@Jasonoid - Solar Power, Batteries, and More! yes I will, but I'm still looking at getting a EB70 as it has 1000W these days, not 700W anymore, at least in the current 230/240V versions. That makes a huge difference as it can power a 6 quart Instant Pot.
You were the only one who showed the capabilities of charging with a 12V to 24V step up hack. That's big, shows thinking outside the box..good job.
I just bit the bullet and bought the EB70 you recommended to me to power a small fridge during any power outage to ensure my hubby’s medicines that must stay refrigerated don’t get too warm…thank you for your guidance! Amazon has the EB70 marked down $100 during this Labor Day weekend to only $499 for anyone still needing one! I shopped via your link to help out your channel a little also!
Thanks for supporting my channel! You'll love that power station 😁 tons of flexibility
I just tested my Eb70 in solid sunlight at 4pm eastern time , my SP200 got up to 155 watts, and the Bourgerv 180 made it to 148 watts. I think thats okay, considering all the factors you mentioned. Thank you for such excellent videos.
Great results! If you know how to get around the quirks this thing is amazing!
Honestly I purchased the unit and I keep getting back to your video That's how good it is
Bought it anyway, while others can't deliver to my address Bluetti did, those 'quirks' is personal taste and does not affect that the EB70 work for me or my wife. I live in the Caribbean and Amazon is very picky sending to my area. BTW bought the BougeRV and the Ac200p same reason availability and delivery. Great video.,,👍 Explaining the solar panel dilemma, im using a Siemmens SR 100 .
You made a great choice in my opinion. I have the Bluetti and I`ve been testing it with a small 5 cubic foot AC freezer and a 3.5 cubic foot AC refrigerator and it powers them perfectly. Even with two inexpensive 100 watt glass solar panels in parallel I believe you can still get nearly 150 watts into this thing. I need to test this soon and find out exactly what happens.
The 2500 charge cycles to 80% capacity is a miracle! I`m in Louisiana and we were directly hit by two hurricanes last year. We lost all our food. The Bluetti is my insurance against that happening again. I don`t want to depend on an expensive gas generator when roads are blocked and gas is impossible to find. I also bought two 300 watt power stations for smaller things like 100 watt 12 volt rice cookers and immersion water heaters to make coffee and tea.
I have 15 of the little power banks between 10,000 and 36,000 mAh I can charge with seven folding solar panels I have between 20 and 60 watts that have USB ports and USB universal chargers for my radio and flashlight batteries. I also bought three USB fans and several 5 watt warm white USB LED lights.
Wow.. good video. I have been looking at solar units for months. I camp with my grandchildren and would love to show them the eb70 in action. I want to explain to them how the sun can give us energy. Looks like a great product and would love to have a unit.
I've spent hours and hours watching these sort of videos and this has been the most helpful out of any I have watched. Just trying to set up my prius as a camper and I think I will go with the eb70 based on your review! Thank you so much!!!!
Glad you found the video helpful, I also have a tips and tricks video about charging the EB70 and EB55!
i'm moving into my car and have been doing research on portable power stations and fridges and your channel is a godsend
Thanks Matthew, I got lots of videos about those topics for you to absorb haha.
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about the QUIRKS... I totally agree Jason...
"OKAY Bluetti... when are you coming out with JASON'S version of what needs to be changed... I want to BUY one...
You heard it here folks...
"Chop... Chop" .... I need to get on the rode with my VT3.."
(my 1972 Vintage Tiny Travel Trailer)
I'll change and another "T to VT4 when I get my NEW & Improved Bluetti because the other "T" will be TRANSFORMER...
Thank you for your review. Customer service is important to me. I called customer service for Okmo, Jackary and Bluetii and all requested to leave a message during regular business hours. Been 2 hours and nobody has called me back. Okmo Help desk is in China. Nobody to speak to is disappointing
Your reviews are really appreciated. So thorough and real world. Please keep it up
Thanks, appreciate the feedback!
Well done, comprehensive review. I took advantage of some Prime Day pricing for the EB70 and SP200 so I don't feel too bad about the "quirks" and limitations. We'll use these when car camping with our Iceco VL45 and for powering some of my musical gear in places where a regular power source isn't available. It's really amazing to see how quickly this technology is evolving and it's exciting to think about the advances that will likely be coming in the next few years. Thanks again for a great review!
How much was it on prime day?
Wondering the same how much for eb70 on primeday?
499, the sale is still going I believe on their website. I'll discuss it tonight in my live stream
I think the latest versions have LED light indicators on the on off buttons. A lot of the quirks were most likely put in place to keep the price low. the great thing about this is the price/performance/functionality. Its great for that alone.
I was pretty harsh on this power station in the review but it's still my go to option for a weekend trip powering my fridge. Lots of capacity and decent solar charging!
Honestly, even with the drawbacks this unit is probably still the best value. I'd rather have a 200 watt solar panel that can max the unit out, vs something smaller. I love the small size and the LiFePO4 battery, this is going to be a life saver when mine finally arrives.
I was a little hard on it in my review, this is still my recommendation over many of the power stations available. Excellent inverter, LiFepO4 chemistry, tons of outputs, near 200 watts solar, it's an awesome battery!
@@Jasonoid That's perfect though, we really appreciate it. Best review of this unit out there, nobody else touches on the solar part of it which in my opinion, is just as important as everything else if not MORE important. I got the combo with the 200 solar panel, excited for when it finally arrives!
This power station is awesome. Once you get used to the screen you won't have any other issues. It has a ton of power and the solar panel is awesome!
EXCELLENT VIDEO BRO! This is just what I have been Looking for. Very informative detailed review. I guess all I have to do now is buy this beast and see for myself. Thank you ☺️
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I just found your channel and honestly the best review on this generator. I think I will buy a Jackery because being so new to solar I don't like the quirks. That was the deal breaker for me. Thank you
Glad to hear it helped! The Jackery 500 is a great unit, I wouldn't go any smaller if you are planning to run a 12v fridge.
@@Jasonoid Thank you, it's on my list.
This is exactly what I wanted! Thank you so much for this thorough review!!!!
You are so welcome!
Very helpful video!
Three questions: 1) Do the fans in the unit stay on when using DC output? 2) Does the unit cause noise with speaker systems? 3) Can you charge and use AC/DC at the same time?
Yes, you can charge it and use it at the same time
The fans only turn on if there is a large load on the battery, I never noticed it while using the DC load output, just the AC output over 100 watts.
As for noise for speaker systems, I haven't noticed anything in particular. Anything you want me to test?
The charger fan doesn't stop until you unplugged it. I would not just leave it over night to charge as the fan will keep on running eve. After it is fully charged. My does anyway
Definitely one of the best review on solar generator 👍👍
Thanks for your comment! Hope you come back for some future videos!
Excellent review! Much better than what Hobotech has been doing lately...
I was disappointed in his review because he never tested his actual solar panel on his unit. Thanks for watching! I love my EB70 even if it has a few quirks haha
I agree. This ia by far an awesome video. This covers so much that others have not.i won my EB70, not on the road yet when i am you video will help alot. So far testing stuff in apartment. My #1 need to run is my sewing machine and it does but not my iron..maybe I'm not doing it right. Still abit unsure which port to etc
Buy your my #1 video. Thanks Jason
Most appliances that "heat up" will pull over 700 watts meaning you can use them on the smaller EB70 inverter. Some examples would be portable heaters, clothes irons, heat guns.... The list goes on and on. Just give each appliance a test on the inverter to make sure it works or not so you know when the power is out.
Bluetti ... Please don't make me buy a Jackery ...
I know they're great... but there is just something about the Bluetti I love... I would LOVE the EB70 (next version) when you LISTEN To JASON, this man know what the people want...
PLEASE LISTEN ...
Love the break down on watts, amps and volts. Thank you
Watching your button segment, it would have been GREAT to just make one of the buttons HOLD to activate or all of them considering that they dont have a screen on button.
Also I dont think Bluetti designed this device. Have you seen the one with the bougerv branding I think....
Interesting, I'll have to look around. We'll the BougeRV is going to have all the same quirks than haha!
Great video. I have had the EB70 for a month or so and you hit everything. The power gauge is an annoyance, there's a big difference between 21% and 40%. I would like the display to stay on, it can't take that much power. The 8 amp solar input is bogus but I can still get 150ish watts outta 2 panels so I can live with it. Overall, I love it and these annoyances are probably no more than I would have with anything I didn't build myself. That's next.
Its still an AWESOME battery, way better than my previous recommendation, the Jackery 500. LiFePO4 cells are excellent!
If you were to combine three 100 watt panels in parallel, then you should be able to achieve the 200 watt max charge.
You can try it but it won't work. Trust me. Putting panels in parallel only combines the current/amps, the voltage stays the same. So no amount a paralleling panels will get you past the 8amp limit on the EB70. How do I know this? Because I have tried 300 watts of solar panels on my EB70.
The only way to get 200 watts input on this power station is to have a solar panel that outputs the same voltage and amps as the wall charger... (25volts and 8 amps). The closest panel I have found that does that is a $275 renogy panel that has 22volts max peak voltage. I have yet to find a 12volt solar panel with a peak 24v-25v output. (24volt solar panels output near 32volts so those don't work, voltage would fry the circuit board).
@@Jasonoid I think your reply was to Bern Swonger. I understand it's almost impossible to get the full 200 watts without using Bluetti's own panels. No prob
@@Jasonoid ok I get it now, that is a big drawback.
Great review. You hit on all the questions I had about this unit and solar panel.
Was looking at buying one but now would wait to see if they do the updates and be able to use the 200 watt panel. Thank you keep up the good work.
My EB70 took a hard 5 ft fall and survived it.
Recently, I bought the newer Bluetti EB70S to run my Alpicool C20 portable frig. Realized on my first camping trip that I would need to buy a solar panel for my longer camping trips. I use my disburse camp as a home base taking multiple hikes in the same area so it’s a waste of time and gas for me to drive around to recharge the power station every other day. From watching your great solar panel test video with Jeff, I’m leaning towards Jeff’s favorite Baldr 120W Portable Solar Panel. My question is: you said the EB70 could not run solar panels in parallel nor in series. Why were you able to successfully charged the EB70 with your Rockpiles in parallel? I’m trying to decide whether to buy one 100W panel and add another if needed or just get a 200W now. Thank you and Jeff for creating this important content in an easy to understand format. Great Job!
Series is a no go on the EB70, but in this video I said parallel connections are just fine. You can connect two Baldr 120s up to the EB70 with no issues. You'll get around 150-165 watts depending on the conditions. The only challenge is connecting those two together in parallel since they don't come with an adapter. If you go with the BlueRise 120, it is cheaper and has MC4 connections and can be connected easily in parallel.
Bluerise 120 performance here: ruclips.net/video/O2Ib2NXrsyw/видео.html
See how to connect them in parallel here: ruclips.net/video/4JG8LvJznLY/видео.html
@@Jasonoid Just got back from my second camping trip of the summer and read your reply to my question. Thanks! Connecting in Parallel video great.
You can get a boost/buck converter to get the MPPT from the non-standard input voltage from solar panels, not ideal, but it can work.
I'd have to try to try plugging a solar panel into my 12 to 24 volt boost converter I used in the video
Dude. You’re assuming that the 200w solar panel can always produce its full rated capacity. It’s alway better to have more solar than what you need. That way if you have small bursts of sunlight you can maximise you solar charging where possible. Otherwise. Best review on you tube regarding these Bluetti. Well done man. Love the dc to dc idea.
Overpaneling these power stations is a great way to keep the maximum solar input going, even when conditions aren't perfect. I like to use a full 200 watt panel on the EB55 and the EB70 since the 8 amp limit. You can definitely go higher if needed, I have plugged in 400 watts of solar into my EB70 but it seemed I was wasting a bit of solar since I usually have pretty sunny conditions.
What a great and comprehensive review! The best I've seen, thank you so much.
Glad it was helpful! I love my EB70! You get used to the quirks pretty quickly and they aren't so bad. Still one of the best Power Stations on the market at this size.
Hey great video very informative very detailed I love the testing that you do I'm fairly new to this so I'm learning a lot especially when you compare quality and price always want the best on a budget thanks God bless you.
Great review on this! I'm picking one up and appreciate all the info you gave regarding solar charging it. My question is if it can handle up to 28 volts, why couldn't you run 2 12v 100w panels in series?
Great question John! 12v panels actually don't match their name very well. They put out around 18v-24v depending on the brand, so they'd go over 28volts in series. 12 volt panels are designed to charge 12volt batteries and that's why they are named that way.
This is an excellent power station and should work well for your needs. Check out my website for the latest discount codes on these products: jasonoid.com
I'm thinking to buy one(or two).
Only thing draw back is, as you mentioned here, the poor UX(User Experience).
And, as you mentioned here, ambiguous input limitation of Volts and Amps.
It doesn't allow any serial or parallel connection of two solar panel.
But, my God!, it is the LiFePO4! and MPPT!
You can parallel solar panels, you'll just top out at about 150-155 watts. When you over panel it like that you can have some "reserve" power available if solar conditions aren't ideal. This power station has really grown on me since this video!
Excellent video. Very thorough review on the Bluetti. Thank you for the insight!
Glad it was helpful!
I picked this battery (100%) for the LiFep04 and the $499 price point. If it was $150ish or $200 more I would have passed for something else. The display doesn't bother me! I'm not staring at it all day/night. I click the button; to see the current battery level and that's all I really want to know. BUT, I did test it on a 5 day camping trip and It was so slow to charge on the 12V outlet in my Honda Pilot. I even drove 4hrs straight and I only got roughly 20% charge back. SO I'm mixed on the results! I'm still going to keep it; but I have to figure out how to remedy this problem on my next trip. This battery needs to recharge faster on my SUV 12V outlet. That's my main problem with this battery.
@UCn799FaTeuf9lzDk78fwt6g I have to debate that in my head, not sure if I want to do that. But that won't be an issue when I get my new car. The Toyota Sienna and Highlander have 1500W inverters (as an option).
Thanks for the review. I just bought this to power a telescope during the night. Currently using a Jackery 240 and a mix of LiFEPO4 cells, but this will be much better.
I can handle most of the quirks, but I wish they had a Display On button. that seems like gross oversight. Maybe I'll mask over the Torch (so it doesn't kill my night-vision) and then just use that power button to turn the display on.
It takes about a week to get used to the power station and I absolutely love it. One of the best currently available!
Great Review on this. Was wondering about the a/c sockets. No one really talks about these. Also can an expandable battery (eg Bluetti B300) be used with the EB70?
I never heard anybody else doing a review of this EB70 and say the unit CANNOT be charged below 32 degrees that quite important info. thanks
LiFePO4 chemistry will be damaged if charged below 32F. Only downside to this type of battery.
Love your videos man. Keep em coming!
Thanks!
Excellent video! I appreciate the review with different appliances! I still have not seen any videos with a regular house hold fridge. As I want to use this for backup during a power outage. Appreciate the comment below in regards to the freezer. Cheers Vancouver Island Canada 🇨🇦
Thanks James. If you want to run a household Fridge or other larger appliances for longer than an hour, it's going to require a bigger battery. Think about the BLUETTI AC200p or Ac300. Those are great options! I will be reviewing the Bluetti Ac200p on my channel in the coming month or so.
Fully charged, I ran my 18cb house fridge for 8.5 hrs,but it's the EB70S which is New 800 watts model.
Thanks for providing those test results!
Love watching the video!
Question I bought two BALDR 120W because I saw your other video on the panels… Would they work with the eb70? Would I have to buy any extra wires to connect them together?
Also any advise on long connection wires so I can have the panel in the sun and the eb70 in the shade.
Trying to learn as much as I can with all the videos. I live in Miami🌪😳
Thank you so much!
Check out my latest video about anderson powerpole connections, you can build a 20 foot extension cord to keep the panels in the sun.
Ty for passing on the tip about the DC to DC converter. 👍
You bet
Another thorough review. Thanks. I wonder if the curve on the fridge run times with the 70/85 ambient temperature is a linear or exponential curve. I live in Arizona and curious about the run time with 95F days. Also what is best practice. Should you run down Lithium and LiPO batteries to zero on a regular basis? I thought I saw if you just run it down to 50% you can get many, many more cycles on both types of batteries.
It could be linear for sure. This pattern is almost exact on all the fridges I have tested. Just remember once you hit a certain temperature the fridge compressor is just running full time on ECO mode, which is usually 33 watts or so, so at least if you plan for a constant 33 watts you'll be good.
You can run LiFeP04 down to 20% capacity without permanent damage. I'm hoping the BMS inside the EB70 is taking that into account. I'm sure it is and that's why we aren't seeing a full 716wh on the testing. I only run it this dry on my tests, I always try to keep it topped off while camping because you never know when clouds will show up! Haha (I've had that happen before and had to get creative!)
See Will Prowse videos about lithium batteries or batteryuniversity. Never store or leave these at full charge for long. If you charge it to 100% run it down to below 90% right away. The last 10% of charge is hard on the battery. Keep charge cycles between 20% and 80% or 30% and 70% to get many more charge cycles but run these down to zero and fully recharge from time to time to keep the battery cells balanced and display calibrated. Never try charging below freezing (using is ok) and avoid excessive heat.
Hi, Thanks a ton for a super fine video...I know nothing of electricity/solar and its quite a learning curve! I have to visit my ill father in the next month, using my Highlander for the roadtrip. I think I'll buy the EB70, and the IceCo 45. Question 1: Is it wiser to buy the 2-100w portable solar panels than 1 of the 200w panels if space is an issue? How about if, long term, I upgrade to Bluetti AC200P? Would the 200w panel be better than 2-100W? Next Question: if I buy the EB70, which rigid solar panels would be best (weather wise) to temporarily attach on top of my Highlander for "on the go" solar charging for this 2 week trip? (would that be better than DC charging in my car cig lighter?). Question 3: When I get to dad's, I can use an extension cord from my car (where EB70 would be attached to my fridge) to my dad's house? Which extension cord would you recommend??? Thanks in advance for your kindness and help. :)
Hey DeAnna lets see if I can answer all of your questions:
1) When thinking about solar panels, it's best to have the same exact model when putting them together in a array so either a couple 100 watt panels or a single 200 watt panel will work just fine you just want to make sure that when you upgrade, you purchase the same panel again and again so the voltages and output match each other. I would probably go with one 200 watt panel to start out with.
2) When using the DC charging on the EB70 you'll get about 80 - 100 watts charging. With the solar input you'd see about 150 - 160 watts in great solar conditions. Both charging options work but you will see MORE power via solar charging. When looking to purchase a solar panel for the EB70 you will want one that has a slightly higher voltage for the best output. I would recommend this RichSolar 200 watt solar panel:
amzn.to/3lepwSY
3) As the for the extension cord, would you be using it to charge the EB70 up off his home AC power with the included wall charger? So you would be running AC power from his house to your car? In that case you can use any extension cord that's at least 12awg. Something like this would work well:
amzn.to/3AgBu2O
Hope this information helps you on your journey! Good luck, let me know if you have any other questions!
Would love to see some specific solar pairing suggestions for this unit for us meatheads who can get overwhelmed by the numbers. Fantastic info though!
Check out my new XTAR sp100 review, or the Elecaenta 120 review. I have both units tested with this EB70, they work really well. I also have the PV200 tested on this unit, all newer videos on the channel
This is the first video that mentioned 8A charging max current. I wish they had at least 10A, and up to 40V max voltage, so you could connect panels in series
Great vids man, I have learned a lot from your channel. Question: If youre charging off the solar panels, and the sun disappears behind a cloud big enough to drop the input to 0, will the battery automatically turn off? I have a power station that has some kind of "saftey feature" that does this. Makes it so you are constantly checking to make sure it didnt turn off because youre in the middle of nowhere and now anxious about your fridge getting turned off!
The EB70 has a power setting called ECOmode that will shut off the fridge if nothing pulls power for 40 minutes. I just make sure this mode is disabled and it works perfect for running a 12v fridge. The power station will charge anytime power comes into the charging port and doesn't shut off if no solar is coming in. No need to worry :)
@@Jasonoid Awesome, thanks!
Hoping I can return my eb55 and get this one. I made the mistake of not comparing these two and with it only being $60 more for the eb70, I think it's worth it.
I agree, the extra battery capacity is nice!
I bought an EB70S based in part on your recommendation and it was a good choice. My question to you what would be a good solar panel to mount permanently on the roof rack on my 4Runner?
I would go with a glass rigid panel for the most durability. Try to get the most solar you can fit, maybe a 200 watt panel will fit? Flexible panels and portable panels break down over time so I wouldn't recommend those for a roof mount. BougeRV has a few great panels and I have a 13% off discount code for any of them on their website (JasonoidLLC). Rich Solar and HQST also make great 100/200 watt panel options.
Jason, when I pulled both above and below 500 wh with two watt meters in three tests I complained endlessly until *Bluetti sent me another one. So I got two of them for 250 each* LOL! I`m in hurricane country so it`s a great pair to have but many of my other power stations charge FASTER with solar than the AC charger. A lot of them do. But not the Bluetti. And NO power station rated at 716 wh should EVER only pull only 450 wh when powering a freezer. Then the next test might be 520. Then 480. My 516 wh 500 watt Bawaut powers a dorm fridge for HOURS longer than the 716 wh Bluetti every time. WIFI too. The Bluetti powers my WIFI for 48 hours. Add another 24 hours to the Bawaut run time. And because of the wireless charger the USB doesn`t power my fans very long with the Bluetti...about the same run time as the Golabs R300.
The Bluetti has thousands of charge cycles though so it`s a valuable device that saves on fuel costs for what I need it for. Capacity of the AC ports was disappointing but the 700 watt inverter is big enough to handle the compressor surge of my small box freezers so that`s its job and it`s a very important thing when you grow your own food and freeze wild fruits and fish. These foods are simply irreplaceable at the store and by August/September when hurricanes hit my freezer has a LOT of wild fish, berries, and Spring/Summer vegetables stored in it like okra and squash. Try buying 3 gallons of blackberries at the store.
And here in Louisiana I grow greens, rutabagas, turnips, cabbage, kohlrabi, beets, and snow peas in Winter when there`s no need for pesticides and I store them in the freezer. Plus I use many natural fertilizers along with some supplemental commercial fertilizer too if needed to greatly increase nutritional content missing from the supermarket. I don`t want these foods from the store.
How is your 300ah build coming along?
@@Jasonoid Phone/internet company is giving me issues about connecting service to my camper and I haven`t moved in yet. No cell phone service here and the only way to live without communications with my doctors and banking is to live completely off grid without money. Evil monsters. I`m on disability and they`re breaking the law. And people wonder what causes people to snap.
@@baneverything5580 Well good luck in getting it connected. Sorry it's not been a seemless process!
thanks for your review.. since now in Cali we have rolling black out.. lol I ordered the eb55 and got the elecaenta panels . Im also waiting for my solar co to call me back to see what options I have to switch everything over to a socket if the power goes out. I cant afford a 10K power wall, but I'm confused at the process. If I can get one working socket to use the panels on the roof then I might be able to power the full size fridge in my garage. or power the eb55 and other things.. Im a rookie at all this.. ahhh
We all got to start someone to be prepared for power outages, the EB55 is a great starting point! Solar is something you learn one step at a time, RUclips has some AWESOME resources to help you learn :)
That 500 some odd watt hours is kinda what I saw during a casual test that I did. I was a bit disappointed and it made me wonder if they sent Hobotech a "good" unit.
Keyword is just a bit.
Pretty interesting right?! I wonder why he didn't test the EB70 with his SP200 solar panel either? Well I was happy with the DC output results and that's how I plan to use it most of the time. It's got some quirks that need to be fixed on a "newer" version but other than that it's a decent battery for powering my 12v fridges. Better than the Jackery 500 in my opinion and it's priced just a little higher.
@@AskIveSolar Thats a good point.
That explains why several times I got BELOW 500 wh from the AC in tests running a freezer. Results vary by as much as 100 wh which is bizarre.
AC inverter has a bit of parasitic drain vs the DC output.
You continue to present professionally and clearly informative. Can you tell me how long the Bluetti 70 run a CPAP?
Should be fine to run it through the night as long as you don't have the humidifier setting enabled. That setting uses much more power. Each CPAP is different but many users say they have used them successfully on this power station.
By my math the capacity is 660-665 wh with the AC inverter using 7-8 wh. So, draining the battery in an hour will give you about 655 wh and draining the battery in 20 hours will give you about 510 wh.
I got around 616wh I think on my model, not too bad!
That must be part of the explanation of why Hobotech got 89% efficiency from AC and Jason got much lower. I couldn't see at what current draw Hobotech drained his unit.
Hey Jason, thanks a ton for this!! Based on your videos, I put together a Bluetti EB70s, Iceco VL45, and 100w panel for my truck camping setup. For a monthlong road trip in August, we only charged the battery off the roof mounted solar. We charged phones lights GoPro and a speaker and ran the fridge continuously at around 38°F. The battery went below 50% on just a few nights despite many partly cloudy and rainy days in the mountain west. It was perfect!
My question is this: how would you recommend insulating or heating the battery for winter camping? Documentation says it will discharge down to well below freezing, but must be 32 or above to charge. I’ll usually only spend 2-3 days in the mountains in California, so I think it might be ok doing nothing, it can charge when I get back to 50° home temps. What would you recommend?
Since the power station creates some heat while in use, you could always find a small insulated lunch bag and put the power station in it while it's really cold and it should stay warm enough to charge the batteries safely.
@@Jasonoid Gotta love the simplicity of that solution. Thanks!
Thanks for sharing the tip about using a 12V-24V 10 amp converter to charge the EB70 in about the same amount of time as it takes from the wall charger. Great idea for faster charging the EB70 in my minivan. So then I started wondering if using a 300W DC 12V to 110V AC Car Inverter plugged into the cigarette lighter would work? The EB70 wall charger would be plugged into the inverter. But would that setup fry anything or burn any fuses?
You can run the AC charger off an inverter, however you'll need to run power directly from the battery with larger wiring because most auto cigarette plugs only support 10amps or around 120 watts.
Since the AC inverter has the potential to pull 300 watts you'd blow the fuse when trying to run the charger off a stock cig plug. I ran 6 awg wires from my battery and now I can hook up a 300 watt inverter and do what you are describing.
@@Jasonoid Thank you the fast reply. You're like a personal consultant and your videos are great! Would you include an additional fuse in the inverter wiring, like for a converter? And 12 gauge for the converter but 6 gauge for the inverter?
You'd connect your 300 watt inverter to the 6 awg wire, which connects from your battery. It would be a good idea to fuse that connection (near the battery). The AC charger would just plug into the inverter wouldn't it? No need for additional wiring.
@@Jasonoid Just one more concern please. The 6 gauge wire from the battery will run about 10 feet to the inverter just behind the front seats in my minivan. That’s where my fridge and Eb70 are located. But the inverter wires are much thinner than the 6 gauge coming from the battery. So, after I cut off the cigarette plug from the inverter, how do I connect the inverter wire to the 6 gauge? Can I use Anderson Power poles? Also what size fuse should I use up near the battery? Much obliged!
@@MichaelKarsh09 6 awg wire can handle 50amps, so i'd install a 50 amp fuse on that line.
Maybe you can install a fuse block that will allow you multiple connections? Since it can handle 50 amps, you could hard wire in the inverter into the fuseblock and put a 30 amp fuse on that one connection. Maybe something like this: amzn.to/3kVw5K4 (or smaller, I have one with 6 connections)
Love your videos. What gauge wire would you use to connect one if those 12v to 24v step up convertors to your car battery? Should you add an inline fuse to this wire?
12 gauge wire will support 20 amps just fine, if it's over a really long run you may want to do 10 awg wire to avoid too much voltage drop (over 20 feet). A fuse would be a great addition for safety
@@Jasonoid Thanks so much.
the jury is still out on the EB70 as far as i am concerned. owned it for about a year. was very dissapointed at first, cause the power bar seems to drain very quickly with light duty loads such as my laptop or desktop monitor which i use with my laptop. it does however seem to go into survival mode (on ECO mode) when it gets down to zero percent. i was surprised last week when it kept going and going when the bar reached zero. so will have to test it further (i have tended to recharge before it drains completely. all in all though just haven't been impressed with this. recharges quickly though, 3.5 hours which is very good. AC50s which i also own, recharges fully in 7 hours.
Nice video, was very helpful. One thing that would be good to include is the weight, and maybe weight to capacity ration for comparing to others?
Have you tested the wireless charging of these units?
I'm looking to replace my ArkPak 730P which has 120AGM battery. Would this be equivalent in Battery storage capacity?
Oh do you see any issue using Anderson plug to the MC4 adapter (my solar blankets only have Anderson connections.
Luckily this is available in Australia, but one has two AC outputs (240v, which is fine, but they are 1000W)
Hey Scott, this is one of the first review videos I had done so it was a bit unorganized. The wireless charging works great! I have since come up with a power station grading system you can view here on my website:
jasonoid.com/powerstations/
It works best on a desktop vs mobile phone screen. It has everything you'd want to know about all the power stations I have tested.
Great review! Everything I needed to know, would a goal zero solar panel plug into the unit ok? It seems to have the same plug on the end of my nomad 50 that would direct;y into the unit?
I haven't tested that connection myself, I think the 8mm should work from that panel but Im not 100% confident.
Enjoyed your video and being so honest. Need your help I just bought a Jackery300 and what solar panel would you reccomend brand I think it can only do one 100watt panel. I don't want a expensive one I am new to this and have my eye on the bluetti Eb70 hopefully they will do the adjustments as you and many say if not it's my next one once I know what I am doing don't want to fry anything but eggs lol
It looks like the Jackery uses an 8mm charging port. If you purchased the Baldr or Rockpals panels in the other video that end it Anderson PowerPole, you might be able to use this adapter:
www.amazon.com/LIXINTIAN-Connector-Compatible-Anderson-Powerpole/dp/B08BKKK89V/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=anderson+to+8mm+connector&qid=1624547220&sr=8-5
I'm torn on this unit. It has so much going for it, but the 8A limit, under 1000w inverter, and low info screen are pretty much deal breakers.
I'm sure other product will come out soon if you hold out a little bit longer. No need to rush to buy one that isn't perfect for you! Thanks for watching :D
hey mate great review. but I have a question. can you use the station while its being charged by solar or wall socket? so that the fridge can keep getting powered? that's probably my biggest concern. cheers!
Yes, you can charge it and use it at the same time, no issues.
What Solar Panel or Panels would you suggest for this Power Station EB70?
Check out my budget solar panel video, it's a month old or so
Good job, sir. Thank you.
Thanks PrepperFrog, its got some quirks but still a great portable setup.
Great video about to buy one, I have solid solar panels what size/type is the DC in plug?
The DC charging port is a 7909 barrel connector. This model comes with an MC4 adapter so any 12v solar panel will connect up if it has MC4 plugs.
@10:11 I like the demo on to 100 watts in parallel. Does that increase the amps and fry the system when you run in parallel?
You can only damage the EB70 by putting panels in series, parallel is fine.
I really like the idea of the Daygreen H10-12-24. What are your thoughts on using a pure sine wave inverter with the wall adaptor?
That should work fine as well, the DC 12v to 24v will be a little more efficient but both will charge at higher rates. The inverter/ac charger is definitely more convenient haha.
I cant remember what the voltage rating on the rockpals was, I think it was around 24 volts as well, based on your last video. I wonder if you put a volt meter between the parallel cable and the power station....what voltage would it show on the SP200 and the two rockpals.
Fun tidbit that you probably know, you can use a parallel cable without the other panel in it. So you wouldnt have to shuffle around wires too much.
The rockpals panels are rated slightly less volts than the SP200. I think 19v vs 20v. But who knows if the specs are accurate because the bluetti "should" be putting out more power but it's not.
@@Jasonoid yeah so many factors to consider.
Show me that solar panel wattage matters. Run the Bluetti SP200 panel with a mpt charge controller to see if you can get more out of the panel. Maybe 20 watts more.
Watch my other 11 solar panel comparison video, max wattage we got out of it was 168 watts, way under advertised amount. Video was released earlier this year on my channel
Besides the benefits of fire safety on lifep04 or Lfp. People over advertise the charge cycle of Lfp batteries. Yes, the battery might last 1000's of cycles. The rest of the the features like inverter, mppt controller, bms, usb, displays, switches could all fail well before the first 1000 cycles.
No different than advertising 25,,000 hours of life on led bulbs. Converters go out well before first 1000 hours. For packing around, I prefer NMC power stations over Lfp for their size, weight, and more energy density.
Lfp are great for stationary settings for off grid , Rv, or power backup.
Great review ... not officially available in the UK as of yet ... not sure if Bluetti are bringing it across the pond ..
I hope they do, it's a great product and would sell over there too! Thanks for watching 😁👍🏻
What does a cycle mean? Would it work with the Bluetti 120 solar panel for frig? Thanks so much for your videos.
Hey LinVanGo, one cycle is when you use the battery from full to empty and then charge it back up fully. So 2000 cycles.
The EB70 would work well with the Bluetti PV120 running a fridge. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Just received my EB70 based on your review.
My Alpicool is coming with the cigar-plug. Do you have any idea what is the connector type on the fridge (the square one)? I'd like to find a cable from fridge (square plug) to EB70 5.5mm.
Option 1) Buy this adapter from 12v socket to 5521 and just tape the cables together so they don't come apart during a road trip....ghetto but cheap and easy:
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Option 2 ) You can buy a replacement 12v fridge cable to use a "donor" cable, and then attach a 5521 barrel plug on it via stripping the wire or soldering the connection:
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Or this option....
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Hope this helps!
@@Jasonoid Yep, was thinking about option 2 but was wandering what is the connector type so I can make my own cable. thanks :)
But can it power the fridge continously?
It did in the video for multiple days
Jason,
I have the Eb70s. A very nice machine. I was wondering after watching your video, can I parallel 3 HQST 100 watt panels together on the unit? Just as you did with the 3 panels in the video. Also should I put a load on the machine while charging?? Thank you!!
Sup g-radz! You can 'overpanel' the EB70s with 300 watts of panels in parallel. The EB70 will use the power it needs and the rest will sit as reserve power waiting to be used in case solar conditions aren't perfect. You'll be able to get the max power input more frequently as you do this. You do not need to put a load on the battery while charging.
@@Jasonoid aka J-Watts!!!! Thank you for the quick response. Still trying to get parallel and series together. This was the 2nd purchase off of your recommendations. Oupes 600 was the other. Very happy with both. Thank you again for your amazing reviews and lighting quick replies!!! You da Man!!
@@g-radzpoweredbytheson75 HAHA, nice... J-Watts. There's lots to learn about with these solar applications. Just make sure you use only a parallel connection on the EB70.
Parallel is when you connect pos to pos and neg to neg = voltage stays the same, current goes up.
Series is when you connect pos to neg and you use the other pos and neg for a solar output = voltage goes up, current stays the same.
I’d like to see a higher watt panel achieve closer to 200 watts
Unfortunately there aren't any on the market that will do 25 volts and 8 amps under load. It's a small design flaw in power station, still charges much faster than the Jackery 500.
You would have to find a panel that has 28 volts short circuit voltage, I haven't found anything.
Would it be possible to hook the boost converter up to the output of a solar charge controller? That controller takes the varying power from the panel and converts it down to a constant voltage source to charge the battery. Boost converter should bump that to 24v right?
Continuing on with that thought. Do they just make a solar charge controller that takes a 12v panel and buck/boosts it to output 24v to charge a 24v battery off a 12v panel. That would be the whole shebang all in one box really.
Hey Piquat1, great suggestion! I actually tried using the same DC to DC converter (12v to 24v) with a solar panel and it did not like the solar output. Maybe the input voltage was too high? They are meant for 12v and the solar panel was putting in about 19volts. I was disappointed when it didn't boost the voltage at all. I was thinking something like this would work well, it's just pricey:
www.amazon.com/dp/B07Q5XBV92/?coliid=I3QJY7GIWHFUJ5&colid=120YSRAZEF7E8&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
You could set the output voltage to 28 volts and max out the EB series with solar if that was the case.
What about charing it from a 12v source while it is running a 12v appliance? My use case is I want to plug the Bluetti into my 12v outlet in my truck to keep it charging while at the same time plugging my Dometic fridge into the 12v outlet on the Bluetti. So when the truck is running it is keeping the Bluetti topped off. When I stop somewhere for a while, the Bluetti keeps my fridge running.
Yes, you can power your fridge and charge it at the same time.
@@Jasonoid I should have mentioned the mfg, when answering questions on Amazon, says pass through charging can shorten the battery life. I don't understand how that is when every solar installation in the world that uses batteries both charging and discharging at the same time. Most van/rv lifers run things off their batteries at the same time that solar panels are charging them. Does the equipment used by the Bluetti cause this to be a problem?
@@gregmacklem Being a LiFepo4 battery inside it will still last much longer than other battery chemistries like lithium ion....at least my hope is that way. I haven't had mine long enough to know.
I think it will shorten the life if you are using the full 700 watts and trying to charge it at 200 watts at the same time, all the time. If you are running a 12v fridge at 30 watts, and charging at 100 watts, I doubt this will do much damage.
Which Rockpals panels were you using? RP082 and SP003?
Those are the ones I used in the video.
@@Jasonoid thank you sir.
Jasenoid, great review! Are you saying that one can definitively not charge it via two 100w panels, or that you CAN (say, in series), but that one won't hit the maximum capacity, that it'll essentially cap it around 150 watts?
Series connection will be too high of voltage (above 30v). You can only connect solar panels in parallel on this power station.
@@Jasonoid Would you believe I just spoke to a rep at Bluetti and he told me specifically NOT to charge in parallel, but only in series? He said as long as each of the two panels is between 18-24 volts, it should be fine for parallel, but that "series" is out of the question. He said that the voltage remains the same whether it's one or two panels. That said, I am not ready to take his word over yours, as he was interrupting me, seemed almost defensive about the 8 amp limit, and kept chalking up all the 8 amp limit hoo-ha here and with other RUclips'd reviews as people just wanting "no waiting time" to charge things. Not what I expected from customer service. Your thoughts? And, if I hook them up in parallel, will I just lose a little capacity, whatever's over the 8 amp limit?
@@PhenomenalWorld sounds like he doesn't know how series solar connections work....(series doubles the voltage, and parallel doubles the current) He's probably not familiar with the EB70. Other larger bluetti power stations do accept series solar panel connections BUT the EB70 does NOT. 12v Panels in series will be over 30v which will fry the control board.... Wow. Sounds like a knowledgeable guy haha.
And parallel connections are just fine with this power station. 140 watts from two parallel panels is better than 100watts from 1 panel. I'd always try to use two panels and ride that 8amp limit.
@@Jasonoid Sounds like I definitely didn't speak to the right guy. At one desperate point, I said (politely) "I called to speak to one of the people in the tech dept. Is that you?". Yes, he said, but from the difference in your take (unless of course YOU are the delusional one), it can't possibly be SO, or he just wasn't versed in the EB70. I'm relieved to hear I can at least juice this bad boy up with 140 watts. That's nothing to sneeze at, in my little mini-van rig. And my limited experience says I'd be lucky to hit 70 watts apiece all the time with two 100w panels anyhow, even with good sun. Anyhow, I appreciate you responses and review, very helpful!
@@PhenomenalWorld you looking to use ridgid glass panels in your setup? I found a Renogy 200 watt solar panel that has a higher voltage and might be able to provide about 170 to 180 watts instead of 140 watts. I haven't tested my theory but I will eventually have a video on it.
If you don't recommend the sp200 what would be a better choice?
Check out my 11 solar panel comparison video! Just came out last week
Would the SP 120 panel be enough to charge this if you are just powering a 12V fridge? Im debating to go with the EB 70 or EB55. What are your thoughts?
The sp 120 is an excellent panel for charging up the these power stations. I also have a budget solar panel video from a couple weeks ago, check that out if you want to buy a panel that puts out the same power for much less money!
OH BOY... I was so set on this ... or maybe the BIG Brother... and after your review... now I'm not so certain. HUM?
Have you heard of the EB70 MAX? Is that the New one that is supposed to be coming out? I had heard that Bluetti was bringing out 2 new Power Stations. Have you heard anything bout that rumor?
I'm sure they will have a 1000wh model soon, I'd wait to see how they improve these models! These units (EB55 and EB70) are great but if they made a few changes they would be that much better!
@@Jasonoid
Have you heard ANYTHING about the NEW Models, or when they're coming out? I'm still working on my VT3 (1972 Vintage Tiny Travel Trailer)... I'll need something around the end of Sept... or the beginning of Oct/21...
I"d like to hold out and get something a little bit bigger than the EB70 but not as big (because I can't lift it) the AC200P... I really like the EB70, but it does need a few more things...
And Please forgive me for asking this question again... but I can't find the notes I took when I had asked you about which "Fixed" panels (I thought they were glass) to use if I did get the EB70... I know you like the RockPal... is it the P802? or what Jeff liked the Baldr? (I don't know what extra # that is). I'm going off memory).
The question is How many "Fixed" or how many watts panels can I use with the EB70?
I want to "FIX" the panels on top of the VT3... not to make it portable.
Thank you again for another great video... Thank you so much for helping people like me, to be more independent...
I am going to be living in this VT3... I need to make it Livable... I'm 66 years old... I deserve to do this the best I can... I don't need to be "Glam" camping, I"m a country girl, I've been camping and have lived in many different RVs, Cab-over Campers, Travel Trailers... but I have always wanted to do Solar...
I just realized I might have already told you (my life history) LOL before if I have, please disregard...
Thank you Jason
(Did YOU know that the Name "Jason" (my son's name is Jason) means "HEALER" ...
I haven't heard anything about new models so I wouldn't expect to see anything very soon. Maybe by Christmas? So probably decide on which one will work best for you, I think the EB70 is a great option!
As for glass panels I'd recommend using 200 watts or 300 watts of rigid glass solar panels for your trailer. That would allow you to get full solar power most of the time. The brand doesn't matter too much, just as long as they are 12v panels and wired in parallel
@@Jasonoid
OMGosh... Thank YOU so much again... So I can go up to 300 watts!!! That is great.
and it is GLASS panels... yeah I wasn't wrong... lol.
(Trying to learn the lingo)...
Well shoot... I was hoping they BLUETTI would come out of YOUR upgraded version... everything you (nitpicked) on was SPOT On...
I still have a "FEELING" they are working on a new one...
We need something BETWEEN the EB70 and the 200P... that is one heck of a price jump from the EB70 to the 200P.
Personally... I'd rather have the 200P... but it is very heavy (60 LBS) and that is okay, because you can just put it in one place... if you're using it on a daily basis...
BUT what I don't get is... WHY... is there so few plug ins? The EB70 has all these beautiful plugins and the 220P has very few...
What's up with that???
Are any of the quirks solved with the EB70S? Or is the W/Wh simply higher on the EB70S or are there other differences?
The inverter supports 800 watts, the led button lights are brighter. Those are pretty much the only changes.
Hey Jason i hope all is well. I can't seem to find EB70 for sale, i can find EB70S, is this the same unit? Thanks
It's the same, they just reclassified the inverter as an 800watt inverter instead of a 700watt so it's better now.
@@Jasonoid sweet good to know. One more question, can you tell rest of people that I'm subscribed to to reply to me like you do in timely manner? :), thanks man i appreciate it.
@@igorshravljevic7784 the mobile app I'm using to reply doesn't show if youre a subbie or not, I just like to answer most questions when possible.
@@Jasonoid i appreciate it. Keep up the great work
Can the eb70s power a dual zone 12v freezer/ fridge with 200 w solar panels?
Hi! Great review bro! I just got my eb70 and was wondering if it is normal that the fans turn on when solar input is great. I got a 100w 12v solar panel and when input is over 80 w it turns on and when goes under 80w fan turns off. Is it normal? I dont want to burn it. I hear same sound of the generator in your video.
Cheers
Hey Alvaro, it's normal that the fan kicks on when solar input is higher than 80watts. Both my EB70 and EB55 do that. It helps keep the charge controller cool and will last longer.
Question, What's been you experience with the 20% meters. We may have talked about this but I forgot what you shared.
I need to find the box and look at their explanation of what the bars mean but I dont feel like its super accurate.
You talking about the display only having 20% chunks? Yeah, it's not super accurate. One of the downsides of the EB70. It seems to last longer below 40% than the top 60% of the battery indicator. Like it jumps down pretty fast then stays at 40% and 20%and 0% longer.
@@Jasonoid nah I mean does 20% accurately represents that portion of power.
616 / 5 = 123
I imagine it's a little more complicated than that but it seems unfair to divide the stick watt hours Yanno.
@@AskIveSolar The power curve for LiFepo4 cells is a bit flat so trying to calculate the power remaining is a bit tuff. Not sure if any company has mastered it yet. I wish the display showed the voltage of the cells because you could calculate when it's low pretty easy if it was visible on the EB70.
Its much easier on a lead acid battery where the discharge curve is a diagonal line and 10% of storage is equivalent to 0.1 volts or something like that.
@@Jasonoid yeah it's an odd one. I'm starting to wonder if anyone has done a good job with it but who am I kidding, there aren't that many.
GoLabs R300 seems decent at it but I never paid close attention because it has a percentage read out.
@@AskIveSolar I'm sure we will see Jackery release a LiFePo4 battery soon enough.....someone was hinting to it on my channel the other day. They probably will learn from all these first gen power stations and hopefully do a better job! :D
Jasonoid…I hate to bother you but I need some technical advice…I received my EB70 and had it 3 weeks and the display panel has failed. The company has said they will refund my money or replace it. My gut says get a refund but I’m not sure that is the best thing to do. Maybe I should and put a little more $$ with it and get a better one but I’m not sure. I just don’t want to keep having trouble with a Bluetti or did I just get a 🍋 model? Thank you for your advice!
I haven't had any issues with my EB series so I am leaning towards the "replace it" option with another EB70 and see how it goes. Other power station options aren't all that spectacular and I feel each brand has the chance of getting a lemon. How did you like it for the 3 weeks you had it? Did it fulfill your needs well? Do you need something bigger?
@@Jasonoid Thank you for the advice Jason! After speaking with hubby and reading him your reply, he felt it best we let them replace the EB70. We would love to have a larger unit eventually but the weight of those units is of concern to us at our ages. Again thank you and blessings to you and your family!
@@firegirl441fromga6 Im glad Bluetti stood behind their product. Thanks for sharing this experience so I know that they do indeed replace broken items if it happens. Keep me updated on the progress!
well i got 28 hours total running my desktop monitor (draws 12 to 13 watts consistently) which i use with my HP Laptop. this is great capacity? don't know.
That's a pretty good runtime. Also remember that having the AC inverter enabled uses a little background power. To keep the battery topped off during the day, I always have solar plugged in somehow.