As someone whose first deck was Mardu and who's catchphrase when playing Strategy games with friends is "Warcrime McGrimes", i can honestly say you described me perfectly
It's the opposite of Bant which you have to play extremely mindfully. You just do stuff in Jund and it pans out. I'll destroy one of my own lands. Why? I'm not sure, but it'll pan out. Jund in this way is like a burger. People just be throwing shit on burgers and it works. Bant is like you're starving and all you have is a big bag of Hershey's Kisses and a box of those tiny individually wrapped Slim Jims
Bant has Arcades the strategist. A self-acclaimed genius dragon who casts spells to make walls come alive, start scooting forward somehow and then fall on people. You bash face with walls and turn them sideways every turn so you never defend with them. That's AWESOME! It's a green stompy deck only it has card draw and is a hilarious meme at the same time.
Esper being f tier for a friendship tear list is ungodly accurate. I built a tivit deck and everybody that I've played it against hates it just because it's like a giant middle finger lol
My favorite Esper deck is an Embalm/Eternalize theme Zombie deck with Varina at the helm. Most of the cards are from Amonkhet block and I just wanna hit people with zombies while dumping cool Embalm guys in the bin. It’s good. It runs like, Rootborn Defenses and very little counterspells or removal for these colors. Just a great time.
I have a deck in mtg arena that I've been told I'm not allowed to make in real life because no one I know would play me with it. It's a historic brawl deck with Zur, Eternal Schemer as the commander. It makes me sad that I can never play the deck with friends and family because the deck has such a wonderful name: "Zur, this is a Wendy's"
This tier list is very insightful, as a blue player i am happy that we are no longer below the worst color (white). But Noah, can the colors be combined even more? What would happen to the tier list if you did that?
There's only five four-color combos and one five-color combo. You can likely invert the single-color rankings to get the four-color that excludes that color, but the Noah thing to do with the five color combo is to just slap it in F tier without explanation even though everyone knows it's because it contains his least favorite color, Green. _(Remember, the MTN channel is_ satire, _so all the claims of him "liking Green" are part of the character he built up, even though he wishes he could remove Green from the game.)_
Considering I'm making a tasha / xanathar deck just because my best friend hates mill and card stealing and I have fun watching him hate me... Fair is fair.
@@a_guy_in_orange7230 play a card, i counter it, i then counter my counter and i counter that counter. you make a comment about how i am a terrible person and no one loves me. no counter.
@@preistestdragon4634 Actually little tip I learned for this situation, you can use disdainful stroke IRL (also called a slap) to counter this as emotional damage costs 3 black and 2 generic
It's sad to see this series pretty much come to an end. Colorless, 4 and 5 color is, I'm guessing, the final chapter. Perhaps we will see the series expand into deck archetypes and subtypes for a little more depth. Burn, tron, mill, zoo, ad nauseum, etc. Some of them might redeem their color or colors on the FS list.
Hell yes, Mardu solidarity. Mardu starter deck was my first deck and I turned it into a goblin repopulation deck. Love the "lucky powerhouse" playstyle. And as someone who was running Krenko, Mob Boss (create a goblin token for each goblin you control once per turn) alongside Burn At Stake (sac X creatures, deal 3 times X damage) and Ankle Shanker (first strike + deathtouch and gives other attacking creatures first strike and deathtouch whenever it attacks)... yeah, "fun army and war crimes" feels incredibly accurate XD
Grixis is also the most metal color combination, it has barbarians undead and dragons screaming on top of mounds of bones in a raging thunderstorm, In fact, Grixis poster boy traxxamundar(or what's his name) is actually combination of all that, an undead barbarian riding a dragon, if you are'nt sold yet then I'm afraid you're destined to be lame forever
@@grahamrafferty5969 It's got three modes - it's either all round fun, only fun for you and nobody else, or the de facto 'there is to be no fun at this table' combination. It's just that most people go for the 2nd or 3rd approach (which tends to be a biiiiit harder to do in other colours - they just suck like that, not getting as many of those sweet sweet bits of removal, countermagic, and stax - leaving esper as the hated one under all this green propaganda)
"Is Sultai gonna kill me? Probably. But I'd still rather take that risk than be friends with Jeskai or Esper" I don't think anyone has ever encapsulated how I feel about blue better than you do 👌
As being a Selesnya enjoyer I gotta admit it's been painful that my favorite mana has been relegated to hated, useless, and the worst of them all. I want to promote fun, I want to do powerful things with it, and I can, yet it all gets overshadowed by its past and most control-focused parts, made even worse with wotc on fire and seemingly wanting to make it even more controlly while also making any good aggro pieces mere side parts and mere scraps in comparison to everything they give to the other 4, leaving nothing but diet control, low-ground aggro, and weaker everything compared to anything else. But, I'll still play it for what little fun things I can do, no more copium, no more malding, just gonna enjoy the game when and how I can.
As a selesnya player and main mono white player. White is way more powerful then people think. At my local game store, I i play mono white commander . When I do play everyone knows to kill me first, because they have seen what happens if left ignored and unchecked. I went toe to toe against an Omnath, Locust Rage commander deck and had them sweating the whole time. It came down to 1 final turn, with no cards in hand , top decking looking for an answer to finish him off. Sadly I couldn't find an answer and he won. I felt good after that well fought battle.
Well, as an avid Bolas fanboy, I have to admit the line "You don't know what they'll choose, but it will probably be messed up" is really accurate. Somehow, though, people still like playing against me! And that was after I broke a assured win board by MC'ing their only flyer and swinging for game ^^ WEIRD!
As a white player I fully accept this change, and humbly thank you for putting Mardu as highly as you did. We are blessed (though stupid, because we play white) to be held highly enough to earn a spot on your list at all sir.
Imma red player possibly switching to black because of magic releasing a lord of the rings branch, so whatever side uruk hais, nazgul, goblins all that; Im on that side
My favorite iteration of my favorite deck is Derevi, the decks name was "Derevi's Concession Stand" it sold defeat in the currency of suffering and depression. You're summation of Bant was far more apt than I care to admit 😅
Dude, some friends of mine and myself just got back into MTG after many years of not playing and I stumbled upon your amazing channel whilst looking up MTG related content! Keep up the awesome videos!😃🤘
He says it's a joke, but Jund is just spot on. Similar to a burger and all of its individually good condiments and toppings, Jund players try to jam as many individually good things in their deck as possible without it toppling over or becoming a huge mess.
Yeah but in practice Jund commanders can be really solitaire-y. Maybe not Kresh or Karrthus… but have you played against Khorvold before?! It sucks so much!!!
@@emilysmith2965 With Windgrace it took me some time to do the diggin and fetching asap i was a little slow with the orders and interactions. Korvold is directly a nightmare to resolve when he gets out of control.
As an esper enjoyer, i feel it necessary to tell you that my favorite strategy is also just taking everything you love in your deck and putting it in the battlefield under my control :)
My friend, I haven't touched Magic since 2014 and I thank you for getting me back in nearly a decade later this past week. I jumped into Arena, grabbed my mono Green, and in my first three matches I made people concede from facing the best Color. Thank you for popping up in my recommended, take care
I've never played Magic (I play Yu-Gi-Oh online) but Noah's videos make me want to check it out. I'm worried he will give me another addictive card game I will sink hours of my money and time into
I love your channel!! You truly make magic funny and the way you see different colors truly resontates with the rest of the community. Like Dimir, I have never seen a smile on my oppnents face when I bring my Dimir Decks! :D
Love your description of Temur, it's exactly why Animar is such a top target for getting focused. Don't even have to cast him, just the threat of it makes you Archenemy.
Dude, you're actually hilarious! Also, what blue/white mage hurt you? You can point to your deck and tell me where they touched it, it's okay. This is a safe space.
@@jovanpetrovich9359 I got my revenge against the Azorious control player when I started bringing standard decks home! He loved his counterspells right up until I cast an Emrakul with all my green mana ramp.
I love Maelstrom wanderer. I use to run counter spells in my deck in hopse of cascading into 1 so I can counter him and recast him from the commander zone. I also ran counter spells that would give the spell owner advantage
The other day I decided to mess around and create a white deck, thinking it would be terrible. What I got was a crap ton of flying creatures and +1/+1 counter buffs. The original plan was to maximize the usage of "Sigardas summons" and what I got was a surprisingly useful deck. Even won a couple games with it which I did not see coming 👍
As a "Firja's Retribution" themed Angel-centric deck player, you could achieve sacrifice based combos using some bs stuff (Bishop of Wings, Maskwood Nexus, Archangel of Thyme, Valkyries' Rampage, Midnight Guard, Thrull Parasite)
These videos are really enjoyable. But as a side effect, whenever I feel the urge to play Magic again, I watch one of these videos, remember what I hated about the game, and then decide to not play Magic. Thank you Noah for helping me not fall into the magic pitfall again.
@Soffren This is mainly for commander, which is like a whole different game. Pioneer is way more fun and a lot more balanced since nearly all the problem cards are banned
Orzhov's penchant for making money absolutely fits in with Mardu - *_not like the dead is going to use the money, right?_* Gotta get funds to keep the party running! Armies aren't cheap, after all!
I love how the strengths of all the *three* colors were represented in only *green* cards XD Almost as though you could get access to all the three things in a single color... Also, truly a thorough and well-thought-out ranking! I feel as though I was enlightened by your wisdom
"It makes war crimes fun!" As a Mardu player who favors Isshin I thank you for understanding our position. All the blue players on my table fail to understand this key difference every time I bring out the annihilate triggers despite their counter backed win con centric bs
As you say, Naya makes white actually functional: Big creatures that are fast and aggressive all while getting evasion and protection from white (and spot removal). I.e. big stomp on your enemies with even less defenses in your way. Only saying this, because you did see the benefit of blue in Temur. Basically Gruul + anything = epic win
Fr, Uril the Miststalker and Gishath are some of my favorite decks! I want to play big stompy, but also how white has great access to enchantments and enchantment tutor are great assets to the big stompy of gruul!
I don't think you realized it - But you've actually made a sikness tier-list for MTG colours. Much more important than a power-level tier-list, a sikness list ranks the colours on their sikness - AKA their coolness and flashiness to play. These higher-ranking colours demand respect at the table not because they are necessarily powerful, but because they can do sweet tricks and rad plays that just make everyone look on in awe.
Izzet just had no legs to stand on. Literally every color pairing with red blue is just defined by the 3rd color. Like thinking back on it, the same thing is true for all dual and tri pairs that use one or both of the izzet colors. Red and blue just seem to be very strong assisting colors in a strategy and just amplify whatever the other colors want to do. Must be why izzet will always be a combo color, because both colors just amplify each other with no healthy outlet for all that energy. So you always end up making that cool izzet commander deck that results in no interaction with the board, then that one 20 minute turn that ends with you winning through infinite damage or lab man.
5:35 Is Marneus Calgar that hated, or is the trash talk layered extra thick on that one? I'm relatively new to the MTG community and I'm curious about him because he looked pretty cool to me. I do know of the Sen Triplets, though *gag*
the bant assessment made me laugh. had a friend with an etb effect deck that would blink all the permanents he wanted twice a turn. his turns were very very long.
I can't help but feel like Naya needs to be S tier too. You take the cool and big stuff that , Green, and Gruul, my places on the previous lists, had and you go...hm, I'd like some more of that! Restoration Angel, Blade Splicer, Cloudshift, and now Ephemerate. It doubles as protection against black trying to kill your stuff and blue trying to bounce your stuff. It's the literal definition of "whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger." White even let you add in Gavony Township, so when you made a bunch of stuff with Blade Splicer, Huntmaster, Thragtusk, and went wide, you could also use that white and some green to go tall and wide!
@@RaceBandit Temur makes Gruul more awesome by giving you more cards to be awesome with. Naya makes Gruul more awesome by making it bigger, wider. and protecting it from people trying to ruin your fun at the same time!
@@LucianDevine blue also protects from people trying to ruin your fun, much better than white at it too, overwhelming denial is a card after all, what temur player doesn't love a counter spell that can't be countered? The ultimate protection card.
Im a quite new magic player, nearly brand new. Was immediately drawn to being an Esper player and i agree with you already. My first commander deck, I made about a month ago. Varina, the Lich Queen with Kaya, and Liliana support, Monument to Perfection, and a ton of cards that basically punish you for doing anything. If you waste your counter spells you lose, if you dont use them you lose, if you kill something of mine you lose, if something of yours dies it will be mine, if you let me ramp you lose, if you dont let me ramp you lose, you board clear, you lose. My new Yore vehichles deck is almost the same but with vehichles
White Player: " its time again to show those worthless peasents the rightful might of white, because justice alleways prevails and who would be more just than the noble and humble white player? now charge my beloved minions, charge to celebrate my greatness and genius. It is impossible for you three 1/1 soldiers to fail but if you should die I will make sure their stuff dies as well by nuking the bord every turn (sometimes i will nuke the lands as well. If I can't have them nobody should) and now praise me, because I have nukes... maybe, if i managed to draw one.... which I defenetly did.... WITH THE POWER OF JUSTICE.
LMAO Mardu Does indeed commit war crimes with its Cult Army. I made a legendary matters Dihada Binder of Wills deck, it focuses on Boardwipes and making my legendaries Indestructible. Jund being BRG (burger) makes a lot of sense since I made my Korvold deck around the idea of Galactus; that is right I eat my own lands and everyone else's like a plate full of big phat Bob's burgers. I would love to see a tier list showing which restaurants these guilds and shards would prefer. Jund would go to any fast food restaurant with burgers, the greasier the better, probably loves Animal Style Fries also. Bant is probably hitting up Applebees while Naya goes to Olive Garden because family ;p
Esper either goes for a hidden restaurant in a back alley that nobody knows about, or somewhere with experimental liquid-nitrogen cooking techniques, depending on their mood.
Naya should have been higher just from the fact that it's got 2 of the best cards in the game, Gishath and Zacama, which are Colossal Dreadmaw feeders. Imagine up to 4 Colossal Dreadmaws on the battlefield because of Gishath! Imagine your Colossal Dreadmaw gets Pacified, and you can use the enchantment removal in Zacamas abilities to get back that beautiful 6/6 creature! ...and some of the white dinosaur cards are actually relatively pretty good for white creatures. Trapjaw Tyrant, Zepalta, Bellowing Aegisaur, Kinjallis Sunwing, Goring Ceratops, Wakening Sun's Avatar, and finally TEMPLE ALTISAUR The white honestly just benefits the Red and Green so much. Normally I say white isn't that great but DAMN you gotta make an exception for white dinosaur cards (I am ignoring every other MTG commander that's Naya that isn't a dinosaur)
Tribal decks are always so much fun, Gishath has to be my favourite card. and the only Dmir decks I've ever seen anyone enjoy playing against is my Sea-Creature tribal deck or Zombie tribal decks. Also you forgot to mention Priest of the Wakening Sun, whilst not a Dino itself it's a Dino tutor so yeah white is good for Dinos, In fact white's got good Vampires and Allies too, it's actually quite nice for tribal decks.
As a passionate bant player...you nailed it. The decks I built were always sooo annoying to play against, combine the powers of green ramp and lots of hate bears and effects like fatespinner and people get mad quick...also grand arbiter Augustin is awesome in bant decks 👍
The end really made me lough >D , I kinda agree on your list maybe some moves for one tier, but I dont agree on Bolas I would say it is at least B tier. I personally play Nekusar and I like how it fits to yours: You dont know what they choose, but its gonna be something messed up
As a die hard Temur player I approve this message. Side note: You're totally not wrong about gorgons. You can't even look those jerks in the eyes without getting hurt, its just rude.
Same, even though my colors finally slipped out of purely S tier. I'm Green, Gruul, and Naya, but I did make my case for Naya to be S tier. So fingers crossed!
Oddly enough, the first time I played Abzan, I actually took the black out because I felt it did nothing. Wound up with a pretty cool +1+1 counter Selesnya deck. Now I have an Abzan Enchantment deck that I really like.
10/10 video. I cannot refute such flawless logic, especially the part of the video about burgers. Here's my subscription good sir and have a great day!
I’m just glad that the first deck I built Mardu was ranked high is enough to put a smile on my face lol I also like how grixis was ranked low which sums up how my friends felt when I played my Xander deck
Yeah I agree with the blue/white/black judgement. We had the pre-made tri-color comander deck and I literally baned my father from playing it because he would gain so much health that he would practically be immortal.
I was looking forward to the triple color video, and you didn't disappoint. Former Jeskai turned Temur after dipping my fingers in green. I'll never go back.
As someone who play Zedruu (Jeskai), I can confirm: the few creatures I *do* play I usually give away before I untap with it. To be fair, I've got little interaction outside Zedruu's ability, so I feel like it balances out somewhat.
I made my Red,white, and blue deck a tap untap deck and all I do on my turn is drop a land on my turn. When it works I'm a nightmare but the other 80% of the time my deck basically fails to get off the ground (too much mana, getting too many of one part of the combo in the deck, or somehow getting no mana after the starting hand)
thank you for being the only magic shitposting youtuber. you are the pillar on which the rest of the community stands
Jesus loves you
John 3:16
Romans 8:35-39
Shitposting? This is fact
MtG Remi exists you know.
8thPlaceDave does some funny stuff, but there's a good chunk of serious in there.
@@harmonicarchipelgo9351 Not knowing a youtuber who you know isn't a reason to be condescending
I love that with Temur he talked about the strengths of each individual color and still just showed a green card for each piece 😂
i lost it at that part
Blame WotC for making Green the best at everything lol
@@earlsaverson5387 more like PRAISE WotC for making green the best. Lord knows they haven't done much else right lmao
It's not his fault green is the best color!
Based
"It has the ramp of green, it has the card draw of blue (green) and it has the agressive power of red (green)"
I died.
Same here lmao this part was absolutely genious
As someone whose first deck was Mardu and who's catchphrase when playing Strategy games with friends is "Warcrime McGrimes", i can honestly say you described me perfectly
"Okay guys I brought my Mardu deck and White Phosphorus who wants to violate the Geneva convention 1st?"
Jund being like a Burger is the best argument I've heard this year
I do be having it my way
I'm naming my next Jund deck the Big Mac.
It’s only been 8 days this year. Of course you haven’t heard a better argument.
I’d say jund is more like Chili- hearty, spicy, easy to make and maintain
It's the opposite of Bant which you have to play extremely mindfully. You just do stuff in Jund and it pans out. I'll destroy one of my own lands. Why? I'm not sure, but it'll pan out. Jund in this way is like a burger. People just be throwing shit on burgers and it works. Bant is like you're starving and all you have is a big bag of Hershey's Kisses and a box of those tiny individually wrapped Slim Jims
I'm gonna start treating people by their MTG colors like astrologists treat people by their star signs. Thanks Noah!
"Sorry I can't trust you, you're Black"
... Wait a sec.
@@pencilwatchesstuff791 I'd be more concerned if they were black AND blue.
What's your sign? Nah. What's your guild? That's the important question.
@@adomisk3047 yeah but being racist to smurfs won't get you canceled
Best possible takeaway from this video.
Bant has Arcades the strategist. A self-acclaimed genius dragon who casts spells to make walls come alive, start scooting forward somehow and then fall on people. You bash face with walls and turn them sideways every turn so you never defend with them. That's AWESOME! It's a green stompy deck only it has card draw and is a hilarious meme at the same time.
Esper being f tier for a friendship tear list is ungodly accurate. I built a tivit deck and everybody that I've played it against hates it just because it's like a giant middle finger lol
My favorite Esper deck is an Embalm/Eternalize theme Zombie deck with Varina at the helm. Most of the cards are from Amonkhet block and I just wanna hit people with zombies while dumping cool Embalm guys in the bin. It’s good. It runs like, Rootborn Defenses and very little counterspells or removal for these colors. Just a great time.
I have a deck in mtg arena that I've been told I'm not allowed to make in real life because no one I know would play me with it. It's a historic brawl deck with Zur, Eternal Schemer as the commander.
It makes me sad that I can never play the deck with friends and family because the deck has such a wonderful name: "Zur, this is a Wendy's"
Yup, I play esper mill and I may as well beevil incarnate at the table with my friends.
This tier list is very insightful, as a blue player i am happy that we are no longer below the worst color (white). But Noah, can the colors be combined even more? What would happen to the tier list if you did that?
Bl*e player spotted 🤢🤢 opinion disregarded 🤮🤮🤮
4 colors and all colors are combos that exist
wait till he covers WUBRG, i bet that'll be a fun one
We also need to see colorless
There's only five four-color combos and one five-color combo. You can likely invert the single-color rankings to get the four-color that excludes that color, but the Noah thing to do with the five color combo is to just slap it in F tier without explanation even though everyone knows it's because it contains his least favorite color, Green.
_(Remember, the MTN channel is_ satire, _so all the claims of him "liking Green" are part of the character he built up, even though he wishes he could remove Green from the game.)_
Blue players didn't get mad at you for roasting us because we know what we did LOL
Considering I'm making a tasha / xanathar deck just because my best friend hates mill and card stealing and I have fun watching him hate me... Fair is fair.
Ohhhhh you know what you did
Thats the most important part of being a blue player: knowing when not to counter
@@a_guy_in_orange7230 play a card, i counter it, i then counter my counter and i counter that counter.
you make a comment about how i am a terrible person and no one loves me. no counter.
@@preistestdragon4634 Actually little tip I learned for this situation, you can use disdainful stroke IRL (also called a slap) to counter this as emotional damage costs 3 black and 2 generic
It's sad to see this series pretty much come to an end. Colorless, 4 and 5 color is, I'm guessing, the final chapter. Perhaps we will see the series expand into deck archetypes and subtypes for a little more depth. Burn, tron, mill, zoo, ad nauseum, etc. Some of them might redeem their color or colors on the FS list.
Hell yes, Mardu solidarity. Mardu starter deck was my first deck and I turned it into a goblin repopulation deck. Love the "lucky powerhouse" playstyle. And as someone who was running Krenko, Mob Boss (create a goblin token for each goblin you control once per turn) alongside Burn At Stake (sac X creatures, deal 3 times X damage) and Ankle Shanker (first strike + deathtouch and gives other attacking creatures first strike and deathtouch whenever it attacks)... yeah, "fun army and war crimes" feels incredibly accurate XD
Grixis should be S tier on friendship, you control everyone so that means infinite friends
This would be the hack, if you weren't ashamed of yourself. But no one except yourself would complain, so .. Pretty balanced, thought.
Yes
@@marcoottina654 You're Grixis, why would you ever be ashamed of yourself?
@@dragoknighte48 that's ... right, actually
Grixis is also the most metal color combination, it has barbarians undead and dragons screaming on top of mounds of bones in a raging thunderstorm, In fact, Grixis poster boy traxxamundar(or what's his name) is actually combination of all that, an undead barbarian riding a dragon, if you are'nt sold yet then I'm afraid you're destined to be lame forever
As a 25+ year Esper/Dimir player, I love that you really get us. We're just the absolute worst
It's not the ranking we wanted, but it's the ranking we deserved.
Oh wait it is the ranking we wanted.
I’m new, and I naturally just gravitated to an esper deck, I feel like I just got sorted into slythern, and I’m not sure how I feel abt it yet
@@grahamrafferty5969 It's got three modes - it's either all round fun, only fun for you and nobody else, or the de facto 'there is to be no fun at this table' combination. It's just that most people go for the 2nd or 3rd approach (which tends to be a biiiiit harder to do in other colours - they just suck like that, not getting as many of those sweet sweet bits of removal, countermagic, and stax - leaving esper as the hated one under all this green propaganda)
@@grahamrafferty5969 Try to create Zur deck - you will play with hate: it will be bad useless deck or bad FUCKING U COUNTER MY COUNTER deck.
@@grahamrafferty5969 with all due respect, I 'd say that Slytherim makes me think about Bolas/Grixis way more than Esper would
I'm so proud to be a part of the 1% of your loyal fan base. Your videos always make me laugh. Best explanations of MTG ever!!!
Even as a player who primarily uses Blue and Black, I still cackle every time you roast either or both.
Impossible… how could a blue combination sneak into S tier
Because Temur players don't run interaction
We stole the creature that made the decision.
Blue is only there to draw not blue faster
Blue and black players know what they're about and accept when they become arch enemy. White player's......
It's not blue, it's simic
"Is Sultai gonna kill me? Probably. But I'd still rather take that risk than be friends with Jeskai or Esper"
I don't think anyone has ever encapsulated how I feel about blue better than you do 👌
Where is that in the video?
@@Pyruswatcher I think he's paraphasing the bunny part around 5:55
The only good Esper is for is a Zur deck
@@Pyruswatcher It's a mix of what he said at 6:00 and the fact that Sultai was higher on the tierlist than the other blue tri-colours :p
See sultai will kill you, and then bring you back from the dead
Showing three green cards for each color in Temur is so fucking funny. Love your stuff dude.
As being a Selesnya enjoyer I gotta admit it's been painful that my favorite mana has been relegated to hated, useless, and the worst of them all. I want to promote fun, I want to do powerful things with it, and I can, yet it all gets overshadowed by its past and most control-focused parts, made even worse with wotc on fire and seemingly wanting to make it even more controlly while also making any good aggro pieces mere side parts and mere scraps in comparison to everything they give to the other 4, leaving nothing but diet control, low-ground aggro, and weaker everything compared to anything else. But, I'll still play it for what little fun things I can do, no more copium, no more malding, just gonna enjoy the game when and how I can.
As a selesnya player and main mono white player. White is way more powerful then people think.
At my local game store, I i play mono white commander . When I do play everyone knows to kill me first, because they have seen what happens if left ignored and unchecked.
I went toe to toe against an Omnath, Locust Rage commander deck and had them sweating the whole time. It came down to 1 final turn, with no cards in hand , top decking looking for an answer to finish him off. Sadly I couldn't find an answer and he won. I felt good after that well fought battle.
Well, as an avid Bolas fanboy, I have to admit the line "You don't know what they'll choose, but it will probably be messed up" is really accurate.
Somehow, though, people still like playing against me!
And that was after I broke a assured win board by MC'ing their only flyer and swinging for game ^^
WEIRD!
As a white player I fully accept this change, and humbly thank you for putting Mardu as highly as you did. We are blessed (though stupid, because we play white) to be held highly enough to earn a spot on your list at all sir.
Imma red player possibly switching to black because of magic releasing a lord of the rings branch, so whatever side uruk hais, nazgul, goblins all that; Im on that side
As a white player, you are actually the peak of MTG chads. You play a bad colour because you like being noble and honorable. Absolute megaschlong.
As a white player, I also feel blessed that our useless selves are capable of making friends, and at the very least better then blue
This just sounds depressing.
💙🤍
Mardu is the kid at your 7th birthday party that brought the supersoaker with the gaint tank of water on their back that looked like a flamethrower.
For real
Mardu is the kid that added a little vinegar to the tank of water also to make it sting ;p
My favorite iteration of my favorite deck is Derevi, the decks name was "Derevi's Concession Stand" it sold defeat in the currency of suffering and depression. You're summation of Bant was far more apt than I care to admit 😅
Dude, some friends of mine and myself just got back into MTG after many years of not playing and I stumbled upon your amazing channel whilst looking up MTG related content! Keep up the awesome videos!😃🤘
He says it's a joke, but Jund is just spot on.
Similar to a burger and all of its individually good condiments and toppings, Jund players try to jam as many individually good things in their deck as possible without it toppling over or becoming a huge mess.
Yeah but in practice Jund commanders can be really solitaire-y. Maybe not Kresh or Karrthus… but have you played against Khorvold before?! It sucks so much!!!
@@emilysmith2965 With Windgrace it took me some time to do the diggin and fetching asap i was a little slow with the orders and interactions. Korvold is directly a nightmare to resolve when he gets out of control.
Temur: the power of smash, with the clarity to say "no"
Temur: Smash
White or Blue: Erm, AKSHULLY
Temur: No. Smash.
As Ziatora enjoyer, I think making (or stealing) big creatures, murdering them and converting into raw damage is the best mtg experience ever.
As an esper enjoyer, i feel it necessary to tell you that my favorite strategy is also just taking everything you love in your deck and putting it in the battlefield under my control :)
3 sisters that arent hating each other? clearly esper is s tier friendship
I guess esper is just an annoying combination 😂
How do you know they don't...?
Esper is great
My friend, I haven't touched Magic since 2014 and I thank you for getting me back in nearly a decade later this past week. I jumped into Arena, grabbed my mono Green, and in my first three matches I made people concede from facing the best Color. Thank you for popping up in my recommended, take care
I've never played Magic (I play Yu-Gi-Oh online) but Noah's videos make me want to check it out. I'm worried he will give me another addictive card game I will sink hours of my money and time into
I love your channel!! You truly make magic funny and the way you see different colors truly resontates with the rest of the community. Like Dimir, I have never seen a smile on my oppnents face when I bring my Dimir Decks! :D
I like how these are still somewhat an accurate overview of the color combos
Love your description of Temur, it's exactly why Animar is such a top target for getting focused. Don't even have to cast him, just the threat of it makes you Archenemy.
I recently built an Animar deck and learned this the hard way...
Dude, you're actually hilarious! Also, what blue/white mage hurt you? You can point to your deck and tell me where they touched it, it's okay. This is a safe space.
Azorius control rtr... oh how I hates it. Only got my revenge with green devotion.
Blue/White or Red/Blue player when you play a card:
Either hurt him or bored him to death, one of the two for sure!
@@jovanpetrovich9359 I got my revenge against the Azorious control player when I started bringing standard decks home! He loved his counterspells right up until I cast an Emrakul with all my green mana ramp.
Azorious opponents touch ALL of your deck. They molest every card.
I love Maelstrom wanderer. I use to run counter spells in my deck in hopse of cascading into 1 so I can counter him and recast him from the commander zone. I also ran counter spells that would give the spell owner advantage
The other day I decided to mess around and create a white deck, thinking it would be terrible. What I got was a crap ton of flying creatures and +1/+1 counter buffs. The original plan was to maximize the usage of "Sigardas summons" and what I got was a surprisingly useful deck. Even won a couple games with it which I did not see coming 👍
As a "Firja's Retribution" themed Angel-centric deck player, you could achieve sacrifice based combos using some bs stuff (Bishop of Wings, Maskwood Nexus, Archangel of Thyme, Valkyries' Rampage, Midnight Guard, Thrull Parasite)
The real victories were the friends you lost along the way
@@marcoottina654
Bishop of Wings+ Maskwood Nexus+ Sac outlet = Infinite Life
These videos are really enjoyable. But as a side effect, whenever I feel the urge to play Magic again, I watch one of these videos, remember what I hated about the game, and then decide to not play Magic. Thank you Noah for helping me not fall into the magic pitfall again.
It's because of stories like yours that I never took up the game. I shall continue to observe from the Warhammer 40k sidelines
@Soffren This is mainly for commander, which is like a whole different game. Pioneer is way more fun and a lot more balanced since nearly all the problem cards are banned
@@frostyblade8842 sounds like you're trying to lure me into the vortex, lmao
@@soffren join us. We are HIVE🧠
@@turtletablet1504 oh no 😳
Orzhov's penchant for making money absolutely fits in with Mardu - *_not like the dead is going to use the money, right?_*
Gotta get funds to keep the party running! Armies aren't cheap, after all!
If you can't pay your army, attack!
Either you get money to pay the army, or don't have to pay the army anymore!
Genius!
Nah, Orzhov is just the uptight cult that was left over when they made the fun army.
3:17 LOL
Thanks for this.
100% accurate, anyone that disagrees Thinks colorless is a color and we all know how those people are.
Temur is so fun because it makes the blue aspect feel actually earned. Big creatures bigger with spells instead of spells=no game
I love how the strengths of all the *three* colors were represented in only *green* cards XD
Almost as though you could get access to all the three things in a single color...
Also, truly a thorough and well-thought-out ranking! I feel as though I was enlightened by your wisdom
It's MTN secretly complaining about why he wants to ban Green.
Even Bant. It takes the dislikability of Selesnya, adds blue, and it actually dials the ramp down until the white cards really set in
"It makes war crimes fun!"
As a Mardu player who favors Isshin I thank you for understanding our position. All the blue players on my table fail to understand this key difference every time I bring out the annihilate triggers despite their counter backed win con centric bs
As you say, Naya makes white actually functional: Big creatures that are fast and aggressive all while getting evasion and protection from white (and spot removal). I.e. big stomp on your enemies with even less defenses in your way. Only saying this, because you did see the benefit of blue in Temur.
Basically Gruul + anything = epic win
Fr, Uril the Miststalker and Gishath are some of my favorite decks! I want to play big stompy, but also how white has great access to enchantments and enchantment tutor are great assets to the big stompy of gruul!
I don't think you realized it - But you've actually made a sikness tier-list for MTG colours.
Much more important than a power-level tier-list, a sikness list ranks the colours on their sikness - AKA their coolness and flashiness to play. These higher-ranking colours demand respect at the table not because they are necessarily powerful, but because they can do sweet tricks and rad plays that just make everyone look on in awe.
6:15 the biggest moment in all mtg RUclips history
Therese a race with 3:10 .. I'm on this last one, and I'm even a white/green player!
As a Gorgon I have never been so offended
It's not his fault the gods gave you glowing red eyes!
Izzet just had no legs to stand on. Literally every color pairing with red blue is just defined by the 3rd color.
Like thinking back on it, the same thing is true for all dual and tri pairs that use one or both of the izzet colors. Red and blue just seem to be very strong assisting colors in a strategy and just amplify whatever the other colors want to do.
Must be why izzet will always be a combo color, because both colors just amplify each other with no healthy outlet for all that energy. So you always end up making that cool izzet commander deck that results in no interaction with the board, then that one 20 minute turn that ends with you winning through infinite damage or lab man.
5:35 Is Marneus Calgar that hated, or is the trash talk layered extra thick on that one? I'm relatively new to the MTG community and I'm curious about him because he looked pretty cool to me. I do know of the Sen Triplets, though *gag*
He has sick lore, it does get pretty cheesey (Along with him being an Ultramarine) though so that could be it
the bant assessment made me laugh. had a friend with an etb effect deck that would blink all the permanents he wanted twice a turn. his turns were very very long.
Naya can do the same thing, but takes like 1/5 the time to do it! Stupid Bant players...
I can't help but feel like Naya needs to be S tier too.
You take the cool and big stuff that , Green, and Gruul, my places on the previous lists, had and you go...hm, I'd like some more of that! Restoration Angel, Blade Splicer, Cloudshift, and now Ephemerate. It doubles as protection against black trying to kill your stuff and blue trying to bounce your stuff. It's the literal definition of "whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger." White even let you add in Gavony Township, so when you made a bunch of stuff with Blade Splicer, Huntmaster, Thragtusk, and went wide, you could also use that white and some green to go tall and wide!
So basically, in three words it's "Overstay your welcome" ... which means between that and having Green it's not ranking as high as you'd think.
@@RaceBandit Temur makes Gruul more awesome by giving you more cards to be awesome with. Naya makes Gruul more awesome by making it bigger, wider. and protecting it from people trying to ruin your fun at the same time!
@@LucianDevine blue also protects from people trying to ruin your fun, much better than white at it too, overwhelming denial is a card after all, what temur player doesn't love a counter spell that can't be countered? The ultimate protection card.
Im a quite new magic player, nearly brand new. Was immediately drawn to being an Esper player and i agree with you already. My first commander deck, I made about a month ago. Varina, the Lich Queen with Kaya, and Liliana support, Monument to Perfection, and a ton of cards that basically punish you for doing anything. If you waste your counter spells you lose, if you dont use them you lose, if you kill something of mine you lose, if something of yours dies it will be mine, if you let me ramp you lose, if you dont let me ramp you lose, you board clear, you lose.
My new Yore vehichles deck is almost the same but with vehichles
I'm a blue player, and he's absolutely right.
Still waiting for "inside the mind of a mono white player"
I too... But now problably will be something like losing all game because white is useless...
They have a mind?
White Player: " its time again to show those worthless peasents the rightful might of white, because justice alleways prevails and who would be more just than the noble and humble white player? now charge my beloved minions, charge to celebrate my greatness and genius. It is impossible for you three 1/1 soldiers to fail but if you should die I will make sure their stuff dies as well by nuking the bord every turn (sometimes i will nuke the lands as well. If I can't have them nobody should) and now praise me, because I have nukes... maybe, if i managed to draw one.... which I defenetly did.... WITH THE POWER OF JUSTICE.
LMAO Mardu Does indeed commit war crimes with its Cult Army. I made a legendary matters Dihada Binder of Wills deck, it focuses on Boardwipes and making my legendaries Indestructible.
Jund being BRG (burger) makes a lot of sense since I made my Korvold deck around the idea of Galactus; that is right I eat my own lands and everyone else's like a plate full of big phat Bob's burgers.
I would love to see a tier list showing which restaurants these guilds and shards would prefer. Jund would go to any fast food restaurant with burgers, the greasier the better, probably loves Animal Style Fries also. Bant is probably hitting up Applebees while Naya goes to Olive Garden because family ;p
Esper either goes for a hidden restaurant in a back alley that nobody knows about, or somewhere with experimental liquid-nitrogen cooking techniques, depending on their mood.
I love your non judging objective opinion thanks for that.
As a compilation and follow up to all previous videos and jokes... This is gotta be the best in the series 🤣
I do wish that you're recording your stuff in one take. Laughing my ass off here and can't figure out the ratio dumb to brilliant. I love this.
Naya should have been higher just from the fact that it's got 2 of the best cards in the game, Gishath and Zacama, which are Colossal Dreadmaw feeders. Imagine up to 4 Colossal Dreadmaws on the battlefield because of Gishath! Imagine your Colossal Dreadmaw gets Pacified, and you can use the enchantment removal in Zacamas abilities to get back that beautiful 6/6 creature!
...and some of the white dinosaur cards are actually relatively pretty good for white creatures. Trapjaw Tyrant, Zepalta, Bellowing Aegisaur, Kinjallis Sunwing, Goring Ceratops, Wakening Sun's Avatar, and finally TEMPLE ALTISAUR
The white honestly just benefits the Red and Green so much. Normally I say white isn't that great but DAMN you gotta make an exception for white dinosaur cards
(I am ignoring every other MTG commander that's Naya that isn't a dinosaur)
Tribal decks are always so much fun, Gishath has to be my favourite card. and the only Dmir decks I've ever seen anyone enjoy playing against is my Sea-Creature tribal deck or Zombie tribal decks. Also you forgot to mention Priest of the Wakening Sun, whilst not a Dino itself it's a Dino tutor so yeah white is good for Dinos, In fact white's got good Vampires and Allies too, it's actually quite nice for tribal decks.
As a passionate bant player...you nailed it. The decks I built were always sooo annoying to play against, combine the powers of green ramp and lots of hate bears and effects like fatespinner and people get mad quick...also grand arbiter Augustin is awesome in bant decks 👍
The end really made me lough >D , I kinda agree on your list maybe some moves for one tier, but I dont agree on Bolas I would say it is at least B tier. I personally play Nekusar and I like how it fits to yours: You dont know what they choose, but its gonna be something messed up
Can’t wait for the four color combo video!
As a die hard Temur player I approve this message.
Side note: You're totally not wrong about gorgons. You can't even look those jerks in the eyes without getting hurt, its just rude.
I subscribed to get the movement of those bars switching to start!
As an Esper player I’m so happy that one RUclipsr loves my colors, most people aren’t fond of us but giving us an F for Fun is just great.
You've earned my sub because I've watched all the tier list videos and I'm convinced we just think the same when playing magic
Same, even though my colors finally slipped out of purely S tier. I'm Green, Gruul, and Naya, but I did make my case for Naya to be S tier. So fingers crossed!
Oddly enough, the first time I played Abzan, I actually took the black out because I felt it did nothing. Wound up with a pretty cool +1+1 counter Selesnya deck. Now I have an Abzan Enchantment deck that I really like.
10/10 video. I cannot refute such flawless logic, especially the part of the video about burgers. Here's my subscription good sir and have a great day!
your shitposts have given me some ideas for commander decks I want to build, so thank you!
As a Temur player, I approve
As a Naya player I feel betrayed by being beaten in the rankings by a blue variant!
Blue player didn't complain because they know what they did
I’m just glad that the first deck I built Mardu was ranked high is enough to put a smile on my face lol I also like how grixis was ranked low which sums up how my friends felt when I played my Xander deck
The new urza precon is in esper, but my friends don’t have fun against it so there 🤷♂️
You can tell Noahs still triggered from his first time meeting Doran 😇
I don’t even play magic. This guy’s just entertaining
Same
Same
Yeah I agree with the blue/white/black judgement. We had the pre-made tri-color comander deck and I literally baned my father from playing it because he would gain so much health that he would practically be immortal.
I was looking forward to the triple color video, and you didn't disappoint. Former Jeskai turned Temur after dipping my fingers in green. I'll never go back.
Bolas in portuguese are literally Balls so every time someone play Nicol everybody laughs
Gay.
Bolas are touching.
Thumbnail is incorrect; Jund is the "stupid" archetype, and Esper is the one that hates fun!
I think you may be my favorite channel on RUclips, these videos are amazing!
Duude, i love your personality lmao i was crying by the end of this video. Thank you for existing
This is actually kinda true tho…..
Bing Chilling.
I loved the angry little Green tree when White messed up the painting!
Love that temur is all green when showing exemples.
Mardu is, in fact, S tier, glad we agree.
I fucking love this It's hilarious you're funny af
I did not expect to be laughing with tears in my eyes at a MTG video.
As someone who play Zedruu (Jeskai), I can confirm: the few creatures I *do* play I usually give away before I untap with it.
To be fair, I've got little interaction outside Zedruu's ability, so I feel like it balances out somewhat.
It is fun Timmy point of view on the MTG colors, but it will be nice to see Johnny or Spike opinion.
I fckn died laughing watching this video.
I shared the fck outta it
Thanks, man! My friends all get 'F' for thier decks with a few exceptions 😅
Your videos honestly want me to jump into MtG
I'd also love to see opinions on those of us bonkers enough to run Eldrazi and Sliver decks >:3
I absolutely love you for the way u talk about magic,you make me laugh a lot,in specific when u being racist to white,it's absolutely fantastic
Esper is the most strategic combination for winning via control. It is glorious!
I made my Red,white, and blue deck a tap untap deck and all I do on my turn is drop a land on my turn. When it works I'm a nightmare but the other 80% of the time my deck basically fails to get off the ground (too much mana, getting too many of one part of the combo in the deck, or somehow getting no mana after the starting hand)
'Maybe the real war crimes were the friends we found along the way.' or something like that
I'm an esper calgar player, thank you for the new combo 😂
I run green and red because of the synergy. Subbed for validating my existence.
3:17 I love how you wer able to recognise each colour has it's own role to play, especially with examples like these!!
Started of with Sultai and after all the years i came around to Temur. Love that developement