So? If there is time we can go future and see it right? But now the little thing that you do is changed your future. THERE IS NO TIME. NO TIME NO TIME NO TIME You can even sentence your death with the little thing you do like going somewhere, opening something, eating something etc. If there is time you would go future but YOU CAN'T BECAUSE THERE IS NO TIME. Carlo Rovelli is a man who do not believe time like me, I appreciate him on his physic knowledges.
Time does not exist. Because; time is an illusion. -- Albert Einstein You are consciousness. And; consciousness is an unknown state. From the unknown, all things are created. --- dr. Joe Dispenza Only the present moment exists from the perspective of experiences arising through consciousness. For example; Present moment is not possible without consciousness. _____________________________________ Difference between Conscious and consciousness ? ________________ You are an image based on your experience. And when you are conscious of a subject, then that image is conscious of the other image. Because the observer ( you are ) is total sum of past experience. -- Eckhart tolle Every thought is a judgement. -- Eckhart tolle And; the judgement based on past experience. -- Eckhart tolle _________________________________________ Silence is a state of observation of consciousness. Gravity Is not present here. Stillness: the infinitely creative womb of all existence. -- Eckhart tolle Because we cannot get behind consciousness. -- Max Planck ( Noblest ) __________________________________________ thoughtless observation is a state of present moment. Another word for it is: presence consciousness without thought. -- Eckhart tolle __________________________________________ Means; “You are not IN the universe, you ARE the universe, an intrinsic part of it. Ultimately you are not a person, but a focal point where the universe is becoming conscious of itself. What an amazing miracle.” ~Eckhart Tolle Our separation of each other is an optical illusion of consciousness. -- Albert Einstein
Love you from a tiny corner of this universe...I have read all the three books of you.. Seven Brief lessons on Physics .. Reality is not what it Seems..The Order of time...can We hope to expect book on loop quantum gravity....beauty of science lies in knowing deeply and feeling it again and again just surprised by everything....Carlo Roveli is a Great poet of Physics...
Time does not exist. Because; time is an illusion. -- Albert Einstein You are consciousness. And; consciousness is an unknown state. From the unknown, all things are created. --- dr. Joe Dispenza Only the present moment exists from the perspective of experiences arising through consciousness. For example; Present moment is not possible without consciousness. _____________________________________ Difference between Conscious and consciousness ? ________________ You are an image based on your experience. And when you are conscious of a subject, then that image is conscious of the other image. Because the observer ( you are ) is total sum of past experience. -- Eckhart tolle Every thought is a judgement. -- Eckhart tolle And; the judgement based on past experience. -- Eckhart tolle _________________________________________ Silence is a state of observation of consciousness. Gravity Is not present here. Stillness: the infinitely creative womb of all existence. -- Eckhart tolle Because we cannot get behind consciousness. -- Max Planck ( Noblest ) __________________________________________ thoughtless observation is a state of present moment. Another word for it is: presence consciousness without thought. -- Eckhart tolle __________________________________________ Means; “You are not IN the universe, you ARE the universe, an intrinsic part of it. Ultimately you are not a person, but a focal point where the universe is becoming conscious of itself. What an amazing miracle.” ~Eckhart Tolle Our separation of each other is an optical illusion of consciousness. -- Albert Einstein
@@angieclairementor miss Time does not exist. Because; time is an illusion. -- Albert Einstein You are consciousness. And; consciousness is an unknown state. From the unknown, all things are created. --- dr. Joe Dispenza Only the present moment exists from the perspective of experiences arising through consciousness. For example; Present moment is not possible without consciousness. _____________________________________ Difference between Conscious and consciousness ? ________________ You are an image based on your experience. And when you are conscious of a subject, then that image is conscious of the other image. Because the observer ( you are ) is total sum of past experience. -- Eckhart tolle Every thought is a judgement. -- Eckhart tolle And; the judgement based on past experience. -- Eckhart tolle _________________________________________ Silence is a state of observation of consciousness. Gravity Is not present here. Stillness: the infinitely creative womb of all existence. -- Eckhart tolle Because we cannot get behind consciousness. -- Max Planck ( Noblest ) __________________________________________ thoughtless observation is a state of present moment. Another word for it is: presence consciousness without thought. -- Eckhart tolle __________________________________________ Means; “You are not IN the universe, you ARE the universe, an intrinsic part of it. Ultimately you are not a person, but a focal point where the universe is becoming conscious of itself. What an amazing miracle.” ~Eckhart Tolle Our separation of each other is an optical illusion of consciousness. -- Albert Einstein
@@honeys.kapoor2838 now, if you wish, you can add mine at the previous one. Time and space are relative, and they changes, acceletating, going upper from physical to the all 49 planes of our planet. - Master Del Pe Confirmed by my direct experiences in the invidible planes ofvour planet. 😀 Olé
@@angieclairementor miss Space and silence are two aspects of the same thing. The same no-thing. They are externalization of inner space and inner silence, which is stillness: the infinitely creative womb of all existence. -- Eckhart Tolle Silence is a state of observation of consciousness. There is a state of timelessness only when there is no observer. -- Jiddu Krushnamurti Because the observer ( you are ) is total sum of past experience. -- Jiddu Krushnamurti You are consciousness. -- Jiddu Krushnamurti Because; we cannot get behind consciousness. -- Max Planck ( Noblest ). The total number of minds in the universe is one; in fact, consciousness is a singularity phasing within all beings. -- Erwin schrodinger ( Noblest ). __________________________________________ Present moment is not possible without consciousness. _____________________________________ Difference between Conscious and consciousness ? ________________ You are an image based on your experience. And when you are conscious of a subject, then that image is conscious of the other image. Because the observer ( you are ) is total sum of past experience. -- Eckhart tolle Every thought is a judgement. -- Eckhart tolle And; the judgement based on past experience. -- Eckhart tolle _________________________________________ __________________________________________ thoughtless observation is a state of present moment. Another word for it is: presence consciousness without thought. -- Eckhart tolle __________________________________________ Means; “You are not IN the universe, you ARE the universe, an intrinsic part of it. Ultimately you are not a person, but a focal point where the universe is becoming conscious of itself. What an amazing miracle.” ~Eckhart Tolle
Grande il prof. Rovelli, mi ha sempre affascinato ed è uno degli scienziati che più stimo. In pratica da quello che ho potuto capire, il tempo è solo una nostra percezione, un nostro "senso", non è una cosa fisica, materiale. Quello che intendiamo noi è il cambiamento e lo spostamento dei corpi a livello macroscopico(se non erro)
Il tempo UNA Considerazione,un accordo fra esseri umani,e per qualcuno.......un flusso di energia direzionale,che si aggrega allo spazio .Per quel che ne sappiamo,puo essere misurato con le adeguate tecnologie.M ULTIVERSO = materia,energia,spazio,tempo= a quinta dinamica dell' esistenza.
Che eleganza e che chiarezza nel divulgare un concetto tanto controintuitivo. Non dico di averlo capito ... ma almeno me ne sono fatto una ragione. Bello.
Ok... I will not translate all the video, but just the beginning of Rovelli's demonstration about 'time not existing' because it's too funny... "Time does not exist. I have 15 MINUTES to persuade you about that." (simply amazing...)
haha technically a minute is just a quantitative measurement in the sun going down in relation to our position on earth, not evidence for existence of constant flow of time Yes I'm fun at parties
And the clock is actually not falling down, but rather stays at rest (or continue to move straight with no possibility to feel/detect any acceleration if you're sitting inside the falling clock's body). And what we observe as "falling down" is a result of clock moving through "x,y,z,time" and only because of the curvature of the space, which is a synonym for the curvature of time, each atom of clock "slipping" into the direction where time goes slower... simply put: we all want to stop the time.. be ultimately undivided united back into the oneness from which I (we all) came for this illusionary dance. Thank you, Carlo!
Sono polacco, ma lo stesso sono molto contento di aver letto il libro di Carlo "reality is not what it seems'. Dopo questa lettura sono diventato ateo, ma questo e' un solo efetto laterale...
@Kiki Brinner Grazie per la preghiera. Non per offendere nessuno.E' un solo pulito scambio dei pensieri. Ci deve esistere qualche "trascendenza" fouri dal campo dove puo guardare la scienza. Solo che nei nuovissimi sviluppi della fisica e' un'altra volta che non trovo nessun segno d'essistenza di qualche "Dio". E' solo un'altra testimonianza che dobbiamo curare la nostra vita, la vita di noi tutti, rispettarla, perche esiste solo UNA VOLTA. Cordiali Saluti.
The meme is real, but is it true? 0.o BTW: If you were a Double Oh spy, (007) you would introduce yourself as "Surname, Name Surname" and if you were filling out a form you would be Surname Name. Boy, what Abbot and Costello could have done with that...
Sono felice che qualcuno si occupi di capire questi misteri ma... il sole sorge e poi tramonta e hai 24 h per fare qualcosa o non fare un cazzo, così come hai 80 anni per fare cose o non farle. Un emozione di persè non esiste ma dal momento in cui la provi diventa reale e indiscutibile. La nostra percezione del tempo esiste quindi il tempo esiste e quando piove ti bagni.
I don't speak the language so I had to watch the captions, nevertheless, I was enraptured. He must speak very well to begin with...but I swear I heard everything that couldn't be put into words, in his voice! a master of prosody.
usted entiende español o portugues? nosotros entendemos italiano pero la mayoria de los italianos no quiere entender el español....les piace parlare l'inglese...
Click on "CC" to enable captions. Click on "Settings" Select "Subtitles/CC" Select "Auto Translate". Choose the language that you prefer. I chose English.
Una cosa che va ricordata , magari a chi non è pratico di calcoli in fisica, è che un numero può avere infinite cifre dopo la virgola, sulla terra: in alto e in basso il tempo cambia, ma in quelle cifre che stanno parecchio parecchio lontano dalla virgola, quindi "roba" di molto più piccola del secondo...gli effetti possono diventare rilevanti se quell'alto diventa molto maggiore dell'altezza di una montagna, per esempio in orbita e comunque anche li' le differenze non raggiungono il secondo, riguardano i nanosecondi. Quindi bisognerebbe precisare che due numeri sono uguali se pure tutte le cifre dopo la virgola sono le stesse 2,0000000000000000000000001 secondo 2,0000000000000000000000002 secondo sono due tempi diversi questa sarebbe un ovvietà per chi si occupa di scienza ma non lo è per gli altri Gli orologi che avete sul polso misurano solo quel 2 secondi non distinguono tutto il resto del numero. Quindi nella pratica quei due numeri sono uguali ma per l'esattezza non lo sono
"Tutte le infinite cifre dopo la virgola sono uguali" (????????), Ti metto "infiniti punti di domanda. Come puoi accertare se due serie di infiniti numeri sono uguali???? Puoi tu vivere INFINITI ANNI per leggerle???? Ma dai, ma almeno pensa a ciò che scrivi, prima di scriverlo!
@@carminemanganiello1595 Con la massima umiltà (a parte il fatto che sono un fisico, e i miei studi di matematica arrivano alle trasformate di Laplace e Fourier, ai funzionali analitici, ad analisi 3, ecc.) ti dico che non perdo tempo con uno che mi scrive "RAGGIONARE" con 2 g (un errore da bocciatura in seconda elementare). Stop, discorso chiuso, impara l'italiano se vuoi discutere di matematica, perché se non sai scrivere nemmeno una parolina elementare come ragionare, come puoi pretendere di comprendere un testo complesso? Sii tu più umile, impara anziché volere spiegare.
Ya great Talk. And he is right when he mentions time dose not exists. But to understand this you must be Biologically,Psychologically,Scientifically and Spiritually attuned to such knowledge.
@@bhgat you, a child of time, not know ANYTHING else than time's fruits, talk about time being nonexistent. This is humanity at its funniest. PS> title is misleading. The guy is a limited manipulator. Time exist, obvious, but it;s much more complex than we thought. That;s all.
"Time" is just a derived convenience. The real phenomenon is the localized rate of change in the present moment. The future is nothing more than imagination and prediction, the past is simply memories and records.
I agree...up and down..right and left..before...past..nothing..we all live the moment..the past and before and everithingh are only....no worlds..need what we all try to give a name..the one see nothing see the more.luk...much .mz
@@robinfarbman7511 localized because the rate of change is related to the gravity in that location. Other locations will have a different rate of change e.g. object in orbit vs sea-level.
Quello che mi piace è che c'è gente che commenta e mette in discussione quello che dice un fisico, anzi più fisici, perché mostra l'equazione senza il tempo dei due fisici americani del '63...peraltro Rovelli è bravissimoa spiegare cosa significhi "il tempo non esiste" se lo capisco io chehoconoscenze soloscolastiche della materia. Basta vedere il video fino in fondo...
I have the feeling that time, as a variable, does not exist. I guess it is all about mass, gravitation and energy. Universe entropy could be the key to all, including the structure of events-occurrence which we try to interpret as time flow.
Il tempo esiste poiché lo osserviamo e misuriamo. Carlo lo ha sia osservato che misurato. Ne sono testimone, essendoci noi due frequentati per quasi vent'anni, prima di perderci di vista.
Also wanted to add to my previous comment! The speed of changes to occur depends on the set of probabilities of each single and particular individual of succumbing to the moment of realization! As soon as you realize it, the change then occurs! Its one of our sensory flaws, just like visuals...our brains fools us into drawing picture of "reality" for us and sending it via physical medium (which are our eyes!) to project it into something we call "the whole" ...the same way brain fools us to perceive changes as if they were happening according to our sensory limitations, that we knew about and learned about since childhood...thus comes the concept of so called "time"...
Grazie dott. Rovelli per la sua interessante trattazione … Grazie davvero ! Mi perdoni se le aggiungo una piccola considerazione riguardo a quello che lei dice al minuto 7.00 : prima di Aristotele e prima di Anassimandro è stata la Bibbia a dichiarare che la Terra è rotonda : Isaia 40:22 si riferisce alla terra come ad un circolo o sfera o globo, mentre Giobbe 26: 7 riporta chiaramente che la terra è “sospesa nel nulla” , …. Quindi la Bibbia in contrapposizione all’opinione comune del tempo in cui fu scritta rivela in modo straordinario una conoscenza scientifica che fu confermata solo successivamente da Aristotele e Anassimandro ( … una palla che vola … come giustamente lei dice ) e infine da Galileo .
@@brianless Tutte le fonti storiche e archeologiche accreditate ( supportate tra l’altro in ordine temporale dal ritrovamento dei famosi manoscritti di Qumran del Mar Morto ) datano ad esempio i primi libri della Bibbia ( da Genesi a Deuteronomio ) nel 1500 a.C. e l’ultimo libro Apocalisse nel 100 d.C. Il libro di Isaia di cui facevo menzione sopra è stato scritto nel 700 a.C. mentre quello di Giobbe ( scritto da Mosè come i primi cinque libri ) sempre intorno all’anno 1500 a.C.
I experienced really weird things happening with time when I was really high up in the Himalayas. I didn't know about time dilation then but now that I do, it all makes sense. Really interesting talk, but he spoke so fast that I had to put the speed to 0.75 to keep up!
On the large scale, time IS quantised and continuous, whereas space "seems" to be NOT quantised. So if space is not quantised then it can be zero and we can be at zero displacement. However Heisenberg says space IS quantised to the Planck length 1.6x10^-35. Also since the velocity of light is finite, then time IS quantised at the large scale. On the small scale, time "seems" to be NOT quantised and events are non-local (JS Bell, Alain Aspect), velocity can be infinite, events instantaneous. Space on the other hand "seems" to be quantised - Planck length again. So on both the large and the small, space is quantised to the Planck length. But time seems to be paradoxical: large quantised, small not quantised. Whenever there is a paradox, then something is wrong. Hence QM and GR cannot be reconciled due to the paradox. There is something wrong with time. But I think saying it does not exist is a step too far Carlo. You see I am 67 and "something" has happened since I was 18. Perhaps I am not fast enough.
The more Particles you load The slower the simulation runs... We observe cause-and-effect and call it time.. We then observe cause and effect over our invention of time and call it entropy neither of which actually exists like money it's simply a human invention to measure something but has no true meaning by itself
Exactly what I was thinking. It took me 64 years to come to the conclusion that only fields exist and therefore space and stuff. But not time by itself
Hi All, you can actually use the "gear icon" to auto-translate from the Italian - or Spanish I guess - subtitles into any language. I have watched with English auto-translation from Italian combined with my amateur Italian fluency and felt good about the accuracy. I think you must first select Italian, then select Auto-translate... anyway hope that helps!
Better than remove time is to make It infinity (...). Past, present, future are all the same, a great expansion of the universe through the perception of something that is finite. Anyway, hbday professor hawking.
There is no such thing as time, only motion. We have memory and we use it to construct the literary fiction of time. Time definitely is not a dimension.
@@whitlalindsay6255 No, you don't get it. In Einstein's theory time do exist, but as one with space. In fact that's the big problem physics is having for decades, a theory of unification on quantum mechanics and theory of relativity, and we don't know how to do it. Time is an antropomorphic ilusion. Time is how we see movement and causality.
0:40 His speech is ahead of three years before the record breaking Optical Lattice- most accurate clock yet. It can detect a time variation in just 2cm of elevation.
Non solo e' svanito il tempo ma anche lo spazio poiche' la nostra realta' non e' altro che una simulazione interpretata da ogni soggetto (Quantum Gravity Research 💖).
È sempre e solo questo momento o “istante”... un cambio di forme costante che appare come “tempo”. Non è il tempo a cambiare le forme bensì sono le forme che cambiano a farci percepire il tempo.
...saying that top and bottom don't exist out in the universe, is not the same as saying that space doesn't exist. You are moving in any direction whether is top or bottom or any given name you like...but you are moving in space... ...so...time is the "unit" into which our mind is moving to understand where we are. A unit as top and bottom or metre and degree, etc. If you can compare two different effects, like aging faster or slower, means that "something " has gone, or changed... something that you can misure, whatever name you giving to it, there is something. (and actually this "something " has one direction only) So, time does exist, it might not be uniform or regular, but it is definitely something that we can measure....
Krishnamurti said the same thing over 70 years or more ago and very few people understood him. Eckhart Tolle teachs about it too, in different ways too. I hope humanity learns this simple reality. Great explanation too, by the way.
"Reality is not what it seems" - belissimo libro, congratulazioni. L'unico libro che avevo letto da ... 10 anni? Lo sto raccomandando ai miei amici. Nella scienza non c'e spazio per le favoli titolati "religioni"...
Bravo. Times does not exist - only MOTION. When we measure time we use things that move relative to each other and to us - Watch hands, the sun, electrons... all of which can be affected by gravity just like a pocket watch would not tell the time accurately if it spent most of its time in a centrifuge. This is a simple physical classical effect (momentum and inertia), not some Quantum effect.Time like mathematics does not exist in nature, it is a human invention to help us understand and predict the world around us. TIME IS MOTION AND MOTION ALONE, IF NOTHING MOVED IN THE UNIVERSE TIME WOULD NOT EXIST. Take a stone, it appears to exist from moment to moment, but it only exists because it is moving with the surface of the rotating and orbiting Earth (relative to us when we are looking at it) If we could put the stone into space so it was not physically moving it would still exist because its constituent parts are moving (electrons and protons). If we could stop the electrons in the stone from orbiting the stone would fall apart but would still exist via its constituent atoms... NOW if we stop the atoms from moving spinning, they would collapse into energy waves so the stone would still exist in this massless form until those waves stopped bouncing around the universe. As time is motion we have to describe time as motion, but motion is difficult to describe especially mathematically. Motion is not specifically an object moving a certain distance, although it is a factor, it is the movement itself regardless of distance or direction, as such, motion or movement must also be described as ENERGY, as energy causes motion and controls it. Of course time did not exist before the Big Bang as nothing existed and therefore nothing moved. The Universe before the Big Bang was therefore eternal, it was nothing, it had existed forever, but eternal and forever do not really apply as they are terms of time measurement, better to say the Universe before the big bang had never gone anywhere.
The methodology of a speculative temporal philosophy With the scientific development pointing into a certain direction across various disciplines, that time could only be an illusion, accompanied by a societal consensus vis-a-vis this conception, i decided to try and concept a new view on the philosphy of timelessness. Asking yourself anything, being the main tool of all of philosphy, the questions that are being stated by a philosophy of timelessness are going to represent the core of this treatment. For some of them, first approaches are going to be delivered, which are to be executed at another point. This way, a first conception of this philosophy is to be proposed, and the foundation of the methodological framework for further considerations to be layed down. The first obstacle to be overcome is the language. Besides others, the first ones to encounter some difficulties are the ones who try to define the nature of timelessness using a language which fundamental structure depends on the temporal order of being things. Considering this, all expressions that are to be viewed on the background of timelessness, will be accompanied by a corresponding reference or a new term will be introduced. The understanding of those terms, demands a high level of cognitive devotion to the following premise: Time does only exist as a mental construct. Regarding the previously stated warning, it is the language that creates a mental contradiction by speaking these words. But since time cant be eliminated on a cognitive level, it is not yet necessary to predict an attack on the day to day semiotics. But since we just eliminated time from a physical level, some of the rather intuitiv answers to simple questions seem not to be applicable anymore and other previously not even thought of questions seem to be pressing for an elegant solution. Imagine a physical world without time, a consortium of from one another least possibly different nows, only connected through the laws of nature. Every one of those nows would be equal in the face of timelessness and all of them would be happening simultaneously. But there are nows, that include time, and it are those ones which include intelligent life itself. Since intelligent life has to be made possible by selfawareness, and it itself needs a concept of a past and future self, u cant speak of single nows but rather a now complex. Since there is no temporal Order of things, common physical equations have to be translated into the language of temporal philosophy as seen below: A system moving at the speed v changes its state at a rate lower by a facotr of (1 − v2/c2)−1/2 than the system in the rest frame, meaning that every human life( if and as long as it has a concept of time )represents such a now complex, in which time is to be found, but only within the boundaries of the associated mind. If the human consciousness moves in time, but the corresponding body itself does not, the conclusion is to be drawn, that at smaller mergers of nows within the human now complex, there are separate consciousnesses feeling the journey through time. Therefore it has to be calculable how many of those conscious states a human now complex includes and therefore how often one appears in his own life. The respective subject is then limited by time, constructed of almost innurable states of consciousness, all regarding themselves as the real present one, for eternity. To put it in simpler terms: Your life is like a book, with the pages torn out and distributed on the floor. Every single page does exist equally next to the other, for ever. Death can be defined as the first now of human now complex, from which on all following nows of that complex are not able to simulate the associated consciousness in relation to all other systems of the universe. This topic will be further discussed in the chapter devoted to the language analytics of the temporal Philosophy. Going further into the book metaphor, you have a Universe consisting of several books, one them you, and the rate at which you read one book in relation to another is only determined by gravity and speed, the direction in which it is read by the laws of thermodynamics, the physical foundation will be specified at a given time. You should have a clearer pictures now, about the fundamental laws that determine this philosophy and to not stretch this introduction unnecessary i am now going to state the various forms of life that will be at the center of this philosophy. It is defined by its relation to time and its perception and the practical part of this philosophy will be devoted to finding a series of demands u can set for interactions with the different kinds of life. It will take some effort and will be discussed in different parts of this treatment but we will be able to split life into 4 categories: unaware life Aware life Selfaware life Selfaware life aware of timelessnes Intuitivly less accessible and harder to visualize is going the be the approach to put a moral value on certain action, since the calculation will be determined by variable views on time, simply because life of every categories includes certain aspects of the previous categories and you will have to consider all possible angles on time before even trying on depicting a normative ethics of timelessness. For the introduction into the temporal philosophy it will be enough to have a basic understanding of classical physics, thermodynamics and relativity. Quantummechanics will be introduced at a later stage to help us save the problem of the eternal return and derive the free will. The speculative nature of this philosophy lays within the fact, that there is no scientific prove of its premise at the time this is being written and it therefore does not claim any sort of legitimation or applicability in the present moment. I do think however, that a willing reader will have to accept the fact that a lot of things would have to change in human interaction if this premise is proven at a certain point and in the cultural evolution of every temporal philosophy it will be stated why a civilization is only able to conduct this thought process at a certain point of its development and even later will be able to accept its conclusions . Aim of the methodology of the speculative temporal philosophy shall be: to present a perhaps purely biological distinction between the various layers of life made possible through a metaphysical framework in concurrence with and through current physical theories, along with the existing parameters respective to the aforementioned metaphysics study, as a basis for my chief work.
Se non ricordo male Kant disse: "il tempo e lo spazio non esistono, sono solo due categorie con cui noi organizziamo mentalmente il mondo che ci circonda", o qualcosa di simile. Uno dei pochi ricordi degli studi classici che mi sono rimasti!
Non è esattamente così, il tempo e lo spazio sono le categorie a priori pure della sensibilità, e come tali sono le condizioni necessarie per la conoscenza, che è sempre conoscenza di qualcosa nel tempo e nello spazio. Ecco perché ad esempio non è possibile conoscere Dio.
Sono d'accordo. Sono strumenti mentali umani utili a capire ovvero a noi umani sopravvivere. L'universo che con questi strumenti "scopriamo" è l'universo umano, incluso nel Universo del nostro Creatore
Se il tempo non esiste come fa a contrarsi quando ci si avvicina alla velocità della luce o in presenza di una grande massa? Questo è completamente fuori dalla relatività, lo adoro.
Complimenti al prof. Rovelli per la sua indubbia capacità di essere semplice e parimenti professionale e comunicativo. Al di là però delle succose suggestioni che può suscitare la sua disquisizione, qui c’è qualcosa che non quadra. Dunque… Il prof. Rovelli vorrebbe convincerci che il tempo NON ESISTE. Però ci parla di più tempi diversi che PASSANO, e poi ci rende noto che, all’interno di una certa equazione integrata, il tempo NON COMPARE. S’è capito però che nel mondo macroscopico il tempo COMPARE come un parametro riconducibile ad una ulteriore coordinata spaziale, e PASSA. Allora ESISTE eccome! Solo che ancora non è stato chiarito COSA ci possa essere dietro la sensazione dello scorrere di esso, ossia quali processi e strutture della realtà ne caratterizzino la natura, sotto la validazione sperimentale della SCIENZA e sotto la validazione concettuale della LOGICA (IN VERITA’ IL SOTTOSCRITTO UNA RISPOSTA NON FINALE MA ALMENO COERENTE CE L’AVREBBE). Poi l’indeterminazione/quantizzazione dei processi microscopici produce, a valle della loro gigantesca sommatoria, l’esperienza del tempo macroscopico come SENSAZIONE CONCRETA (SEPPUR INGANNEVOLE SECONDO LA MIA CONCEZIONE) DEL SUO FLUIRE. Insomma, secondo me, il tempo ESISTE come SENSAZIONE INGANNEVOLE e affiancata al tempo della fisica macroscopica, e SI PUO’ provare a svelare COSA c’è dietro.
tu dici ESISTE ma questo a mio parere e' l' equivoco. Il linguaggio e' pieno di buchi di neri che ci trapassano senza che ne siamo consapevoli ossia SIAMO parlati non parliamo. Io userei e' REALE ma relativamente come l' universo intero e' relativo. Ossia per la materia e dunque anche per noi il TEMPO e' reale anche se momentaneo perche' TUTTO E TUTTI scompaiono prima o poi ma il TEMPO NON ESISTE. Non so se sono riuscito a spiegarmi. Quello che tu chiami sensazione che passi e' solo lo spazio il quale ha bisogno di ESSERE PRESENTE e lo fa con l' aiuto del tempo ossia la materia che si srotola prende forma. Ma il tempo NON esiste. Puoi metterla cosi Dio c' e' ma non esiste ossia non e' nella dimensione spazio tempo che e' solo ILLUSIONE. Gli antichi indiano nella Bhagavad gita affermavano lo stesso. Ma ce ne siamo dimenticati. Kant scrisse lo stesso Schopenhauer anche il tempo lo spazio sono illusioni. O se la vuoi mettere come Shakespeare " siamo fatti della stessa sostanza dei sogni e la nostra vita e' circondata da sonno. Piu' chiaro di cosi....Puffh......scompariamo dunque il tempo NON ESISTE. Gli indiani (antichi) avevano capito che lo spazio tempo e' illusione MAYA e quello che e' REALE ma non in modo relativo come siamo noi e' l' ASSOLUTO ossia quello da cui tutto nasce e tutto ritorno e che per definizione e' INDEFINIBILE
"Secondo me" non si applica alla scienza. Gli esperimenti ci dicono che il tempo non esiste in termini assoluti ma semplicemente come un riferimento utile a comprendere e descrivere fenomeni,specialmente a velocità infinitesimali quando comparate a quella della luce. La filosofia appartiene ad un altro ambito. Quello che noi percepiamo non deve necessariamente essere "reale" ma come spesso accade,si tratta solo di "strumenti" con cui interfacciarsi con la "materia". Lei può dire che esiste il giallo in natura?O può dire che "giallo" esiste ed ha senso solo in quanto risposta ad un certo stimolo (lunghezza d'onda della luce) proveniente dall'interazione con altra materia (e solo quando interagisce con essa...)?
Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day Fritter and waste the hours in an off-hand way Kicking around on a piece of ground in your home town Waiting for someone or something to show you the way Tired of lying in the sunshine staying home to watch the rain You are young and life is long and there is time to kill today And then one day you find ten years have got behind you No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun And you run and you run to catch up with the sun but it's sinking Racing around to come up behind you again The sun is the same in a relative way, but you're older Shorter of breath and one day closer to death Every year is getting shorter, never seem to find the time Plans that either come to naught or half a page of scribbled lines Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way The time is gone, the song is over, thought I'd something more to say Home, home again I like to be here when I can When I come home cold and tired It's good to warm my bones beside the fire Far away, across the field The tolling of the iron bell Calls the faithful to their knees To hear the softly spoken magic spell
cheers. Here's the lyrics for the album's next song: Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh Aaaah aaaah aaaaaah Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh.
They say " past present and future is just an illusion, both exist right now connected, and both dinosaur and humans exist now together" Clearly this is absolutely wrong, because past present and future are just human views of nature state. They are not time by themselves, and time is just man made ideal (imaginary) tool. Right? Thanks.
+Asrat Mengesha It's slight more complex than non-existence. It manifests itself in presence of limitations. Please, make yourself familiar to the term: epiphenomena. It's going to help you embrace and synthesize "layered" thoughts.
@@Untilitpases Time really doesnot exist, this is hard to digest and imagine. You should be wired differently I guess to be attune to such knowledge. I have been trying to understand TIME for so long now. And yes,time doesnot exist, I am convinced,but its very difficult to make others understand this.
"Posso dire che mi sono svegliato nel momento in cui il sole sta li..." senza fare riferimento al tempo. Sonon l'unico che nota l'ironia in quella frase?
He basically exlpain how the concept of "time" is a useful thing (that we use to organize our lives) here on planet heart... But not exactly in the outer space. He also tells that, regarding the placement of an object (like a clock) in that precise moment, is a proven fact that time runs at a different speed .. Apparently time goes faster at higher altitudes, while run slower over the sea level. The eg. he gives is that gps satellites, needs to be calibrated in order to work for us as good as they do. Just because of this... He also said that the concept of "top and bottom" are useful just here on our planet... Eg. An astronaut, to an other space mate, won't say "pass that bag of water under you..." There's no under there's no above. Basically... As these are very useful well defined concept, they remain that only at human size life. (not in the universe, nor at microscopic dimensions) P. S. In an other talk, he also said that time is affected by gravity, wich I think is nearly adaptable to this last considerations.
My question is, if time does not exist, why can't we go back and forth on many event... I've been sixteen, just sixteen years ago and I won't be it anymore anytime anyway. Trees get older, iron get rust, things modify their essence.
All'inizio del '900, nel mio paesello in Appennino (Piaggiasecca, comune di Sassoferrato, Pr. AN, Marche) c'era una donna anziana che non era mai uscita dalla vallata (circa 10 x 5 km). Andando in montagna per cercare le pecore arrivò ad un valico in cui non era mai arrivata, e vide la valle dell'Umbria dietro Monte Cucco e, stupita, esclamò: "Quanto è grande e grosso il mondo". Chissà come si era raffigurato il mondo fino ad allora?!!?
Time itself is human invented concept for the sake of convenience! It doesn't exist on itself, but rather changes that occur do! When you see people getting older, gowing up, stars born and die...what you see are "changes"! And TIME Got nothing to do with that! Simple as that! I do not speak italian, so i fon't know what he is talking about here, just wanted to weigh in!...
I concetti di alto e basso, seppur relativi, non cancellano però quello più generale di spazio. Che infatti, anche nell'esempio di Rovelli degli astronauti nello Spazio, è sempre presupposto quando questi devono indicare qualcosa, scegliendo altri punti di riferimento diversi da alto e basso. Il paragone non sembra quindi appropriato per illustrare la non necessità del concetto di tempo.
D'avvero...l'idea che morirò senza conoscerli e senza nemmeno conoscere tutto dell'uomo e il suo destino mi fa impazzire....se potessi mi libererei immediatamente di 'sto cazzo di corpo e uploaderei la mia mente in un sistema artificiale immediatamente!
@Frank Walter più evolve la scienza,più evolve la strumentazione per verificarla,più si scoprono cose,che metteranno in dubbio ciò che si crede di sapere.. è un loop, per fortuna,l'uomo non ne uscirà mai.. Immaginiamo uno scenario in cui Copernico accetta la scienza dell'epoca come verità e apice del sapere in campo astronomico. La scienza deve fare di tutto anche per provare il contrario di ciò che è certa. Poi è solo un parere
the professor Rovelli is perfectly right. Time doesn't exist. The ancient great Indian doctrine told the same and also the philosopher Kant. We can't accept this concept because we are feared of death but it doesn't change the fact that time doesn't exist.
Carlo annoia la gente da anni spiegando una cosa risaputa: il tempo è relativo, dipendente dalla velocità tra osservatore ed osservato e dalle condizioni di gravità. La prima cosa è nota da 115 anni. La seconda da 105. Ciò può essere detto perché spazio te tempo, due aspetti del movimento, sono osservabili e misurabili. Ovviamente non si può misurare qualcosa che non c'è, essendo ogni misura un rapporto tra due campioni (esempi) della cosa da misurare. Quindi spazio e tempo esistono. Chi dice il contrario sta solo cercando di prendere in giro il prossimo con una bugia.
Time does not exist. Because; time is an illusion. -- Albert Einstein You are consciousness. And; consciousness is an unknown state. From the unknown, all things are created. --- dr. Joe Dispenza Only the present moment exists from the perspective of experiences arising through consciousness. For example; Present moment is not possible without consciousness. _____________________________________ Difference between Conscious and consciousness ? ________________ You are an image based on your experience. And when you are conscious of a subject, then that image is conscious of the other image. Because the observer ( you are ) is total sum of past experience. -- Eckhart tolle Every thought is a judgement. -- Eckhart tolle And; the judgement based on past experience. -- Eckhart tolle _________________________________________ Silence is a state of observation of consciousness. Gravity Is not present here. Stillness: the infinitely creative womb of all existence. -- Eckhart tolle Because we cannot get behind consciousness. -- Max Planck ( Noblest ) __________________________________________ thoughtless observation is a state of present moment. Another word for it is: presence consciousness without thought. -- Eckhart tolle __________________________________________ Means; “You are not IN the universe, you ARE the universe, an intrinsic part of it. Ultimately you are not a person, but a focal point where the universe is becoming conscious of itself. What an amazing miracle.” ~Eckhart Tolle Our separation of each other is an optical illusion of consciousness. -- Albert Einstein
I nostri padri non hanno nulla da insegnarci, questo può essere vero. Non dimentichiamo però che anticamente, come è stato ammesso in conferenza, sapevano che la terra è tonda. Molto prima che noi la potessimo vedere. La scienza antica ed i miti, io sento che ci potrebbero dire molte cose, se fossimo in grado di ascoltarli.
In genere chi approfondisce troppo certi ambiti della conoscenza, tende a sottovalutare gli altri, senza contare che tutta la Fisica si basa su rapporti tra forze-energie e convenzioni che ci sono essenziali per capire le leggi naturali. Noi viviamo comunque volenti o nolenti in un contesto in cui il concetto di tempo è fondamentale.
NOTICE: Subtitles EXIST!!! Do NOT miss this video! " Click on "CC" to enable captions. ---> Click on "Settings" --> Select "Subtitles/CC" --> Select "Auto Translate" --> Choose the language that you prefer. I chose English and it works very very perfectly! " steps copied from one of the comments(NEWKNOWLEDGE ).
He said that the clock that is higher reads a time that is later than the one which is lower. It would actually be the opposite. The clock which is higher is further away from the center of the Earth than the other one, thus it has a higher tangential speed. This means that time would pass slower for it, than the clock which is lower. So, it would actually read a time that is earlier than the one the other lower clock (it is the opposite of what he said). It is basically a twin paradox on an extremely small scale (the clock that is higher is the twin that goes on the spaceship, time passes slower for him, so his clock would be early, not late).
Please note that there are TWO different things that affect the passage of time according to Einstein: one is the speed you are moving at (relative to another clock - it's called "relativity" for a reason...), the other is the strength of the gravitational field you are in (otherwise put "the local curvature of space" - if any). The lecture's notion of "up" and "down" refers to the latter - as in, simply "hovering at a distance" from a large mass, NOT "in orbit around it". Whenever you are in an actual orbit, you need to consider the effects derived from both of those causes - something he does not elaborate on here.
Se riesci a disattivare la sensazione di tempo, puoi guardare l' orologio e non ricordare a che cazzo serve. In effetti, forse, il tempo é l'ordine che la vita fa, mentre combatte l'entropia. Il tempo, in fin dei conti è una battaglia tra 2 parti che spingono in direzioni opposte il caos e l'ordine. In mezzo c'è il mondo, e tu.
@@paoloombras9309 no. Io questo lo penso da quando avevo 15 anni. La mia idea che l'entropia "È" il tempo, è tutta mia. Che poi possa essere un incredibile cazzata. Può essere...
Time is just human language. If time does exist in space and if time registers all events in space taught in relativity theory then why do we need security cameras while we could read all events from time?
This is a subtle point and it requires not only serious study, but also deep reflection to realize. To offhandedly dismiss this important point is a demonstration of tragic ignorance.
Se consideri il tempo come quello segnato da una clessidra, allora si, le clessidre scorrono più velocemente a certe altezze che a altre, se invece lo consideri un po'più in astratto puoi confrontare le varie clessidre in base a questo tempo assoluto e fisso, che esiste così come esistono i numeri, anch'essi un'astrazione
Riflettendo sul tempo che non esiste, per la prima volta riesco ad immaginare e trovare quasi "logico" anche il mondo quantistico, comprese quelle che erroneamente consideriamo probabilità, ma in realtà è il concetto di tempo (che usiamo in modo sbagliato secondo la nostra percezione abituale) che ce le fa sembrare tali. Inoltre, sempre a livello puramente di immaginazione, finalmente riesco a vedere la fisica quantistica non in contraddizione con la relatività generale, senza che si generino strani paradossi a volerle mettere insieme. Secondo me è davvero una intuizione geniale, quella che il tempo non esiste. Chiaramente il lavoro duro sarà quello di riscrivere tutta la fisica senza il tempo e dimostrare che funziona meglio delle leggi che adoperiamo oggi.
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I remember watching this in 2024.
BEST COMENT EVER LOL
i remember meeting you tomorrow
😁
Azz nel2029 me ne ero scordato?!!!
Hahaha
He had 15 nonexistant minutes to convince the audience that time does not exist.
So? If there is time we can go future and see it right?
But now the little thing that you do is changed your future.
THERE IS NO TIME.
NO TIME
NO TIME
NO TIME
You can even sentence your death with the little thing you do like going somewhere, opening something, eating something etc.
If there is time you would go future but YOU CAN'T BECAUSE THERE IS NO TIME.
Carlo Rovelli is a man who do not believe time like me, I appreciate him on his physic knowledges.
super physicists live in their own parallel universe
Why people speak English here?
Time does not exist.
Because; time is an illusion.
-- Albert Einstein
You are consciousness.
And; consciousness is an unknown state.
From the unknown, all things are created.
--- dr. Joe Dispenza
Only the present moment exists from the perspective of experiences arising through consciousness.
For example; Present moment is not possible without consciousness.
_____________________________________
Difference between Conscious and consciousness ?
________________
You are an image based on your experience. And when you are conscious of a subject, then that image is conscious of the other image.
Because the observer ( you are ) is total sum of past experience.
-- Eckhart tolle
Every thought is a judgement.
-- Eckhart tolle
And; the judgement based on past experience.
-- Eckhart tolle
_________________________________________
Silence is a state of observation of consciousness.
Gravity Is not present here.
Stillness: the infinitely creative womb of all existence.
-- Eckhart tolle
Because we cannot get behind consciousness.
-- Max Planck ( Noblest )
__________________________________________
thoughtless observation is a state of present moment.
Another word for it is: presence consciousness without thought.
-- Eckhart tolle
__________________________________________
Means; “You are not IN the universe, you ARE the universe, an intrinsic part of it. Ultimately you are not a person, but a focal point where the universe is becoming conscious of itself. What an amazing miracle.” ~Eckhart Tolle
Our separation of each other is an optical illusion of consciousness.
-- Albert Einstein
He must have had a finite velocity.
Quando dai appuntamento a rovelli e lui arriva otto anni dopo
Scardovelli invece fa come i tachioni che arrivano prima di partire in R 3 e 4
Questo è un bene , meglio per te sarebbe se non arrivasse affatto.
ahahahaha!
@@googlegmail638 noooooooo che bello! vorrei ridere anch'i0! eh mooooo?
goal ohh sorry you are italian
Love you from a tiny corner of this universe...I have read all the three books of you.. Seven Brief lessons on Physics .. Reality is not what it Seems..The Order of time...can We hope to expect book on loop quantum gravity....beauty of science lies in knowing deeply and feeling it again and again just surprised by everything....Carlo Roveli is a Great poet of Physics...
Who all going to read all the three books...
Soon I will @@sravanthichimma6708
When you're late for the physics lesson, but then you realise time doesn't exist..
Hahahahahahaha
Time does not exist.
Because; time is an illusion.
-- Albert Einstein
You are consciousness.
And; consciousness is an unknown state.
From the unknown, all things are created.
--- dr. Joe Dispenza
Only the present moment exists from the perspective of experiences arising through consciousness.
For example; Present moment is not possible without consciousness.
_____________________________________
Difference between Conscious and consciousness ?
________________
You are an image based on your experience. And when you are conscious of a subject, then that image is conscious of the other image.
Because the observer ( you are ) is total sum of past experience.
-- Eckhart tolle
Every thought is a judgement.
-- Eckhart tolle
And; the judgement based on past experience.
-- Eckhart tolle
_________________________________________
Silence is a state of observation of consciousness.
Gravity Is not present here.
Stillness: the infinitely creative womb of all existence.
-- Eckhart tolle
Because we cannot get behind consciousness.
-- Max Planck ( Noblest )
__________________________________________
thoughtless observation is a state of present moment.
Another word for it is: presence consciousness without thought.
-- Eckhart tolle
__________________________________________
Means; “You are not IN the universe, you ARE the universe, an intrinsic part of it. Ultimately you are not a person, but a focal point where the universe is becoming conscious of itself. What an amazing miracle.” ~Eckhart Tolle
Our separation of each other is an optical illusion of consciousness.
-- Albert Einstein
@@angieclairementor miss
Time does not exist.
Because; time is an illusion.
-- Albert Einstein
You are consciousness.
And; consciousness is an unknown state.
From the unknown, all things are created.
--- dr. Joe Dispenza
Only the present moment exists from the perspective of experiences arising through consciousness.
For example; Present moment is not possible without consciousness.
_____________________________________
Difference between Conscious and consciousness ?
________________
You are an image based on your experience. And when you are conscious of a subject, then that image is conscious of the other image.
Because the observer ( you are ) is total sum of past experience.
-- Eckhart tolle
Every thought is a judgement.
-- Eckhart tolle
And; the judgement based on past experience.
-- Eckhart tolle
_________________________________________
Silence is a state of observation of consciousness.
Gravity Is not present here.
Stillness: the infinitely creative womb of all existence.
-- Eckhart tolle
Because we cannot get behind consciousness.
-- Max Planck ( Noblest )
__________________________________________
thoughtless observation is a state of present moment.
Another word for it is: presence consciousness without thought.
-- Eckhart tolle
__________________________________________
Means; “You are not IN the universe, you ARE the universe, an intrinsic part of it. Ultimately you are not a person, but a focal point where the universe is becoming conscious of itself. What an amazing miracle.” ~Eckhart Tolle
Our separation of each other is an optical illusion of consciousness.
-- Albert Einstein
@@honeys.kapoor2838 now, if you wish, you can add mine at the previous one. Time and space are relative, and they changes, acceletating, going upper from physical to the all 49 planes of our planet.
- Master Del Pe
Confirmed by my direct experiences in the invidible planes ofvour planet.
😀 Olé
@@angieclairementor miss
Space and silence are two aspects of the same thing. The same no-thing. They are externalization of inner space and inner silence, which is stillness: the infinitely creative womb of all existence.
-- Eckhart Tolle
Silence is a state of observation of consciousness.
There is a state of timelessness only when there is no observer.
-- Jiddu Krushnamurti
Because the observer ( you are ) is total sum of past experience.
-- Jiddu Krushnamurti
You are consciousness.
-- Jiddu Krushnamurti
Because; we cannot get behind consciousness.
-- Max Planck ( Noblest ).
The total number of minds in the universe is one; in fact, consciousness is a singularity phasing within all beings.
-- Erwin schrodinger ( Noblest ).
__________________________________________
Present moment is not possible without consciousness.
_____________________________________
Difference between Conscious and consciousness ?
________________
You are an image based on your experience. And when you are conscious of a subject, then that image is conscious of the other image.
Because the observer ( you are ) is total sum of past experience.
-- Eckhart tolle
Every thought is a judgement.
-- Eckhart tolle
And; the judgement based on past experience.
-- Eckhart tolle
_________________________________________
__________________________________________
thoughtless observation is a state of present moment.
Another word for it is: presence consciousness without thought.
-- Eckhart tolle
__________________________________________
Means; “You are not IN the universe, you ARE the universe, an intrinsic part of it. Ultimately you are not a person, but a focal point where the universe is becoming conscious of itself. What an amazing miracle.” ~Eckhart Tolle
Mettete tutte le scuole in montagna
Come se non ci fossero
Grande il prof. Rovelli, mi ha sempre affascinato ed è uno degli scienziati che più stimo. In pratica da quello che ho potuto capire, il tempo è solo una nostra percezione, un nostro "senso", non è una cosa fisica, materiale. Quello che intendiamo noi è il cambiamento e lo spostamento dei corpi a livello macroscopico(se non erro)
Bravo Rovelli, molto chiaro!
Il tempo UNA Considerazione,un accordo fra esseri umani,e per qualcuno.......un flusso di energia direzionale,che si aggrega allo spazio .Per quel che ne sappiamo,puo essere misurato con le adeguate tecnologie.M ULTIVERSO = materia,energia,spazio,tempo= a quinta dinamica dell' esistenza.
Il "Tempo" si compie sempre pari a se stesso .. ovunque..
Che eleganza e che chiarezza nel divulgare un concetto tanto controintuitivo.
Non dico di averlo capito ... ma almeno me ne sono fatto una ragione.
Bello.
Ok... I will not translate all the video, but just the beginning of Rovelli's demonstration about 'time not existing' because it's too funny...
"Time does not exist. I have 15 MINUTES to persuade you about that."
(simply amazing...)
haha technically a minute is just a quantitative measurement in the sun going down in relation to our position on earth, not evidence for existence of constant flow of time
Yes I'm fun at parties
If you read his book "The order of time" you might get an idea on what he is talking about
Il "Tempo" si compie sempre pari a se stesso .. ovunque..
do you really not understand what he meant or are you joking? I hope you are joking
Incrível, assunto muito atual, todos deveriam assistir esse vídeo.
@Wellington D.Santos e agora Rovelli diz que ele tava errado pq o tempo não existe fora dos nossos cérebros maravilhosos.
Todos deveriam ler um mínimo sobre astrofísica e sobre física quântica. Tudo fica mais natural e interessante.
"atual"
Il "Tempo" si compie sempre pari a se stesso .. ovunque..
This WAS in English but transmission was funneled into a Wormhole of Reciprocal Time and warped into Italian.
GIGA LOL
Yes, in Italy we have invented the relativistic translator but it seems like it still needs some tuning. ;-)
meanwhile someone is distributing litterature about how Italy didn't win the war.
Translating needs TIME , but time doesn’t exist...
And the clock is actually not falling down, but rather stays at rest (or continue to move straight with no possibility to feel/detect any acceleration if you're sitting inside the falling clock's body). And what we observe as "falling down" is a result of clock moving through "x,y,z,time" and only because of the curvature of the space, which is a synonym for the curvature of time, each atom of clock "slipping" into the direction where time goes slower... simply put: we all want to stop the time.. be ultimately undivided united back into the oneness from which I (we all) came for this illusionary dance. Thank you, Carlo!
as italian i'm very proud when i hear prof. Rovelli talking about science
Sono polacco, ma lo stesso sono molto contento di aver letto il libro di Carlo "reality is not what it seems'. Dopo questa lettura sono diventato ateo, ma questo e' un solo efetto laterale...
@Kiki Brinner Lei gradirebbe che qualcuno uccidesse in suo nome?
@Kiki Brinner...e nell'Ateismo nessuno prega per alcuno...
@Kiki Brinner Grazie per la preghiera. Non per offendere nessuno.E' un solo pulito scambio dei pensieri. Ci deve esistere qualche "trascendenza" fouri dal campo dove puo guardare la scienza. Solo che nei nuovissimi sviluppi della fisica e' un'altra volta che non trovo nessun segno d'essistenza di qualche "Dio". E' solo un'altra testimonianza che dobbiamo curare la nostra vita, la vita di noi tutti, rispettarla, perche esiste solo UNA VOLTA. Cordiali Saluti.
@@Seba_World Aq,
Bravo Rovelli! La GENTE dovrebbe seguire quelli come te,non quelli che raccontano stupidaggini !
so the meme "every 60 seconds in africa a minute passes" isn't real
The meme is real, but is it true? 0.o
BTW: If you were a Double Oh spy, (007) you would introduce yourself as "Surname, Name Surname" and if you were filling out a form you would be Surname Name. Boy, what Abbot and Costello could have done with that...
Sono felice che qualcuno si occupi di capire questi misteri ma... il sole sorge e poi tramonta e hai 24 h per fare qualcosa o non fare un cazzo, così come hai 80 anni per fare cose o non farle. Un emozione di persè non esiste ma dal momento in cui la provi diventa reale e indiscutibile. La nostra percezione del tempo esiste quindi il tempo esiste e quando piove ti bagni.
I don't speak the language so I had to watch the captions, nevertheless, I was enraptured. He must speak very well to begin with...but I swear I heard everything that couldn't be put into words, in his voice! a master of prosody.
Italiano, my friend! I wander If he had the chance to meet or talk to Carl Sagan... The same feeling.
I think he's good but maybe going about it wrong?
A master of sophistry is more like it. "It sounds elegant and convincing, so it must be true time does not exist!" Nonsensical drivel.
Il "Tempo" si compie sempre pari a se stesso .. ovunque..
I recommend his book "Reality is not what is seems"...Amazing,clear and in English for who cannot speak Italian
Thank you , Im going to read it.
Il "Tempo" si compie sempre pari a se stesso .. ovunque..
usted entiende español o portugues? nosotros entendemos italiano pero la mayoria de los italianos no quiere entender el español....les piace parlare l'inglese...
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@@new-knowledge8040 Too bad. It doesnt have it in youtube app including RUclips in a browser.
@@new-knowledge8040 molto bene
Una cosa che va ricordata , magari a chi non è pratico di calcoli in fisica, è che un numero può avere infinite cifre dopo la virgola, sulla terra: in alto e in basso il tempo cambia, ma in quelle cifre che stanno parecchio parecchio lontano dalla virgola, quindi "roba" di molto più piccola del secondo...gli effetti possono diventare rilevanti se quell'alto diventa molto maggiore dell'altezza di una montagna, per esempio in orbita e comunque anche li' le differenze non raggiungono il secondo, riguardano i nanosecondi.
Quindi bisognerebbe precisare che due numeri sono uguali se pure tutte le cifre dopo la virgola sono le stesse
2,0000000000000000000000001 secondo
2,0000000000000000000000002 secondo
sono due tempi diversi
questa sarebbe un ovvietà per chi si occupa di scienza ma non lo è per gli altri
Gli orologi che avete sul polso misurano solo quel 2 secondi non distinguono tutto il resto del numero.
Quindi nella pratica quei due numeri sono uguali ma per l'esattezza non lo sono
Precisissimo, grazie per la spiegazione!!
"Tutte le infinite cifre dopo la virgola sono uguali" (????????), Ti metto "infiniti punti di domanda. Come puoi accertare se due serie di infiniti numeri sono uguali???? Puoi tu vivere INFINITI ANNI per leggerle???? Ma dai, ma almeno pensa a ciò che scrivi, prima di scriverlo!
@@carminemanganiello1595 Con la massima umiltà (a parte il fatto che sono un fisico, e i miei studi di matematica arrivano alle trasformate di Laplace e Fourier, ai funzionali analitici, ad analisi 3, ecc.) ti dico che non perdo tempo con uno che mi scrive "RAGGIONARE" con 2 g (un errore da bocciatura in seconda elementare). Stop, discorso chiuso, impara l'italiano se vuoi discutere di matematica, perché se non sai scrivere nemmeno una parolina elementare come ragionare, come puoi pretendere di comprendere un testo complesso? Sii tu più umile, impara anziché volere spiegare.
Il "Tempo" si compie sempre pari a se stesso .. ovunque..
17 minutes that never existed that I will never get back.
Non mi stanco mai di ascoltarti!!!
What a brilliant talk. Loved this.
Ya great Talk. And he is right when he mentions time dose not exists. But to understand this you must be Biologically,Psychologically,Scientifically and Spiritually attuned to such knowledge.
@@bhgat You are absolutely right. I was an aspiring monk till few months back. I think that explains much. Haha :)
@@bhgat you, a child of time, not know ANYTHING else than time's fruits, talk about time being nonexistent. This is humanity at its funniest. PS> title is misleading. The guy is a limited manipulator. Time exist, obvious, but it;s much more complex than we thought. That;s all.
Il "Tempo" si compie sempre pari a se stesso .. ovunque..
Meraviglioso questo video,apre la mente e lo spirito ad una nuova conoscenza.
Sempre chiaro ed affascinante!
"Time" is just a derived convenience. The real phenomenon is the localized rate of change in the present moment. The future is nothing more than imagination and prediction, the past is simply memories and records.
I agree...up and down..right and left..before...past..nothing..we all live the moment..the past and before and everithingh are only....no worlds..need what we all try to give a name..the one see nothing see the more.luk...much .mz
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no past and no future, no present, even. simply 'events'.
"Localized"?...
@@robinfarbman7511 localized because the rate of change is related to the gravity in that location. Other locations will have a different rate of change e.g. object in orbit vs sea-level.
Fantastico divulgatore di fisica e scienza ...è riuscito appassionare anche me che sono soltanto un semplice ascoltatore ...grazie
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SEI UN POLLO CHE HA ABBOCCATO
@@AlexAlex-im2lp e un pesce spennato XD
Il "Tempo" si compie sempre pari a se stesso .. ovunque..
Quello che mi piace è che c'è gente che commenta e mette in discussione quello che dice un fisico, anzi più fisici, perché mostra l'equazione senza il tempo dei due fisici americani del '63...peraltro Rovelli è bravissimoa spiegare cosa significhi "il tempo non esiste" se lo capisco io chehoconoscenze soloscolastiche della materia. Basta vedere il video fino in fondo...
Time is an illusion we get by spectating movement.
Movement and.. entropy?
Bravo, come sempre.
Il tempo non esiste... ed ho un quarto d’ora per convincervi di questo!! I fisici non hanno il senso dell’umorismo
diocane tua mamma
Stavo per scriverlo io
Hahahahahahaha
Invece la sua è proprio una battuta ironica
Ma era una battuta, idiota
Il miglior Ted Talk di un italiano.
I have the feeling that time, as a variable, does not exist. I guess it is all about mass, gravitation and energy. Universe entropy could be the key to all, including the structure of events-occurrence which we try to interpret as time flow.
C constant include time...
Il tempo esiste poiché lo osserviamo e misuriamo.
Carlo lo ha sia osservato che misurato.
Ne sono testimone, essendoci noi due frequentati per quasi vent'anni, prima di perderci di vista.
Also wanted to add to my previous comment! The speed of changes to occur depends on the set of probabilities of each single and particular individual of succumbing to the moment of realization! As soon as you realize it, the change then occurs! Its one of our sensory flaws, just like visuals...our brains fools us into drawing picture of "reality" for us and sending it via physical medium (which are our eyes!) to project it into something we call "the whole" ...the same way brain fools us to perceive changes as if they were happening according to our sensory limitations, that we knew about and learned about since childhood...thus comes the concept of so called "time"...
Grazie dott. Rovelli per la sua interessante trattazione … Grazie davvero !
Mi perdoni se le aggiungo una piccola considerazione riguardo a quello che lei dice al minuto 7.00 : prima di Aristotele e prima di Anassimandro è stata la Bibbia a dichiarare che la Terra è rotonda : Isaia 40:22 si riferisce alla terra come ad un circolo o sfera o globo, mentre Giobbe 26: 7 riporta chiaramente che la terra è “sospesa nel nulla” , …. Quindi la Bibbia in contrapposizione all’opinione comune del tempo in cui fu scritta rivela in modo straordinario una conoscenza scientifica che fu confermata solo successivamente da Aristotele e Anassimandro ( … una palla che vola … come giustamente lei dice ) e infine da Galileo .
Ma quando pensi sia stata scritta la bibbia?! ROFLMAO
@@brianless Tutte le fonti storiche e archeologiche accreditate ( supportate tra l’altro in ordine temporale dal ritrovamento dei famosi manoscritti di Qumran del Mar Morto ) datano ad esempio i primi libri della Bibbia ( da Genesi a Deuteronomio ) nel 1500 a.C. e l’ultimo libro Apocalisse nel 100 d.C.
Il libro di Isaia di cui facevo menzione sopra è stato scritto nel 700 a.C. mentre quello di Giobbe ( scritto da Mosè come i primi cinque libri ) sempre intorno all’anno 1500 a.C.
I experienced really weird things happening with time when I was really high up in the Himalayas. I didn't know about time dilation then but now that I do, it all makes sense. Really interesting talk, but he spoke so fast that I had to put the speed to 0.75 to keep up!
Thank you!
irony of time: as we can see in 16:38 there comes a moment, alas!, that time is running out for everyone
Quando passi dal parlare del tempo al parlare della vera bellezza ❤ grande!!
On the large scale, time IS quantised and continuous, whereas space "seems" to be NOT quantised. So if space is not quantised then it can be zero and we can be at zero displacement. However Heisenberg says space IS quantised to the Planck length 1.6x10^-35. Also since the velocity of light is finite, then time IS quantised at the large scale.
On the small scale, time "seems" to be NOT quantised and events are non-local (JS Bell, Alain Aspect), velocity can be infinite, events instantaneous. Space on the other hand "seems" to be quantised - Planck length again. So on both the large and the small, space is quantised to the Planck length. But time seems to be paradoxical: large quantised, small not quantised. Whenever there is a paradox, then something is wrong. Hence QM and GR cannot be reconciled due to the paradox. There is something wrong with time. But I think saying it does not exist is a step too far Carlo. You see I am 67 and "something" has happened since I was 18. Perhaps I am not fast enough.
Well, i'm a layman in physics, but couldn't the changes we see in almost everything be explained just by entropy?
@@1gorSouz4 another way of saying that is to say entropy is the underlying cause of the ostensible chirality of time.
The more Particles you load The slower the simulation runs... We observe cause-and-effect and call it time.. We then observe cause and effect over our invention of time and call it entropy neither of which actually exists like money it's simply a human invention to measure something but has no true meaning by itself
Escuché y vi toda la charla mientras los números se movían hasta llegar al 17:04. Increíble.
"Every 60 seconds in Italy, time doesn't passes"
*doesn't pass
in Italy they are eating pizza in no time...
Il "Tempo" si compie sempre pari a se stesso .. ovunque..
Exactly what I was thinking. It took me 64 years to come to the conclusion that only fields exist and therefore space and stuff. But not time by itself
Hi All, you can actually use the "gear icon" to auto-translate from the Italian - or Spanish I guess - subtitles into any language. I have watched with English auto-translation from Italian combined with my amateur Italian fluency and felt good about the accuracy. I think you must first select Italian, then select Auto-translate... anyway hope that helps!
Hy
No lui Hy
Il "Tempo" si compie sempre pari a se stesso .. ovunque..
Better than remove time is to make It infinity (...). Past, present, future are all the same, a great expansion of the universe through the perception of something that is finite. Anyway, hbday professor hawking.
There is no such thing as time, only motion. We have memory and we use it to construct the literary fiction of time. Time definitely is not a dimension.
Yes but this is not news. See General and Special Theory of Relativity by Einstein
@@whitlalindsay6255 No, you don't get it. In Einstein's theory time do exist, but as one with space. In fact that's the big problem physics is having for decades, a theory of unification on quantum mechanics and theory of relativity, and we don't know how to do it. Time is an antropomorphic ilusion. Time is how we see movement and causality.
Il "Tempo" si compie sempre pari a se stesso .. ovunque..
Time and dimension are human artifacts. Are useful, but are only possible because the human memory and conscience
Uno dei migliori TED di sempre.
I attended my mathematics and physics lectures in that same room, Aula Magna in Como, more than 20 years ago
Canale favoloso e super interessante.
Why is the title in English if there are no subtitles?
Não é feito para pessoas burras que só falam inglês!!!
Because Italians can read an English title!
If you click on automatic translation and set the language to English you'll get a good translation of the talk
0:40 His speech is ahead of three years before the record breaking Optical Lattice- most accurate clock yet. It can detect a time variation in just 2cm of elevation.
Salve Prof ! :- ) @@giovannajonalasinio
Non solo e' svanito il tempo ma anche lo spazio poiche' la nostra realta' non e' altro che una simulazione interpretata da ogni soggetto (Quantum Gravity Research 💖).
È sempre e solo questo momento o “istante”... un cambio di forme costante che appare come “tempo”. Non è il tempo a cambiare le forme bensì sono le forme che cambiano a farci percepire il tempo.
...saying that top and bottom don't exist out in the universe, is not the same as saying that space doesn't exist. You are moving in any direction whether is top or bottom or any given name you like...but you are moving in space...
...so...time is the "unit" into which our mind is moving to understand where we are. A unit as top and bottom or metre and degree, etc. If you can compare two different effects, like aging faster or slower, means that "something " has gone, or changed... something that you can misure, whatever name you giving to it, there is something. (and actually this "something " has one direction only)
So, time does exist, it might not be uniform or regular, but it is definitely something that we can measure....
Krishnamurti said the same thing over 70 years or more ago and very few people
understood him. Eckhart Tolle teachs about it too, in different ways too.
I hope humanity learns this simple reality. Great explanation too, by the way.
Krishnamurti is an unintelligible guru of which I wonder why so many people ever followed him
"Reality is not what it seems" - belissimo libro, congratulazioni. L'unico libro che avevo letto da ... 10 anni? Lo sto raccomandando ai miei amici. Nella scienza non c'e spazio per le favoli titolati "religioni"...
Bravo. Times does not exist - only MOTION. When we measure time we use things that move relative to each other and to us - Watch hands, the sun, electrons... all of which can be affected by gravity just like a pocket watch would not tell the time accurately if it spent most of its time in a centrifuge. This is a simple physical classical effect (momentum and inertia), not some Quantum effect.Time like mathematics does not exist in nature, it is a human invention to help us understand and predict the world around us. TIME IS MOTION AND MOTION ALONE, IF NOTHING MOVED IN THE UNIVERSE TIME WOULD NOT EXIST. Take a stone, it appears to exist from moment to moment, but it only exists because it is moving with the surface of the rotating and orbiting Earth (relative to us when we are looking at it) If we could put the stone into space so it was not physically moving it would still exist because its constituent parts are moving (electrons and protons). If we could stop the electrons in the stone from orbiting the stone would fall apart but would still exist via its constituent atoms... NOW if we stop the atoms from moving spinning, they would collapse into energy waves so the stone would still exist in this massless form until those waves stopped bouncing around the universe. As time is motion we have to describe time as motion, but motion is difficult to describe especially mathematically. Motion is not specifically an object moving a certain distance, although it is a factor, it is the movement itself regardless of distance or direction, as such, motion or movement must also be described as ENERGY, as energy causes motion and controls it. Of course time did not exist before the Big Bang as nothing existed and therefore nothing moved. The Universe before the Big Bang was therefore eternal, it was nothing, it had existed forever, but eternal and forever do not really apply as they are terms of time measurement, better to say the Universe before the big bang had never gone anywhere.
17 minuti più interessanti ed avvincenti di anni di scuola e università.
Qualche insegnante così l'ho avuto ma erano sempre troppo pochi...
17 minuti? dipende...
Il "Tempo" si compie sempre pari a se stesso .. ovunque..
Thank you man, for being honest.
Grazie Rovelli !!
The methodology of a speculative temporal philosophy
With the scientific development pointing into a certain direction across various disciplines, that time could only be an illusion, accompanied by a societal consensus vis-a-vis this conception, i decided to try and concept a new view on the philosphy of timelessness.
Asking yourself anything, being the main tool of all of philosphy, the questions that are being stated by a philosophy of timelessness are going to represent the core of this treatment. For some of them, first approaches are going to be delivered, which are to be executed at another point. This way, a first conception of this philosophy is to be proposed, and the foundation of the methodological framework for further considerations to be layed down.
The first obstacle to be overcome is the language. Besides others, the first ones to encounter some difficulties are the ones who try to define the nature of timelessness using a language which fundamental structure depends on the temporal order of being things.
Considering this, all expressions that are to be viewed on the background of timelessness, will be accompanied by a corresponding reference or a new term will be introduced.
The understanding of those terms, demands a high level of cognitive devotion to the following premise:
Time does only exist as a mental construct.
Regarding the previously stated warning, it is the language that creates a mental contradiction by speaking these words.
But since time cant be eliminated on a cognitive level, it is not yet necessary to predict an attack on the day to day semiotics.
But since we just eliminated time from a physical level, some of the rather intuitiv answers to simple questions seem not to be applicable anymore and other previously not even thought of questions seem to be pressing for an elegant solution.
Imagine a physical world without time, a consortium of from one another least possibly different nows, only connected through the laws of nature.
Every one of those nows would be equal in the face of timelessness and all of them would be happening simultaneously.
But there are nows, that include time, and it are those ones which include intelligent life itself.
Since intelligent life has to be made possible by selfawareness, and it itself needs a concept of a past and future self, u cant speak of single nows but rather a now complex.
Since there is no temporal Order of things, common physical equations have to be translated into the language of temporal philosophy as seen below:
A system moving at the speed v changes its state at a rate lower by a facotr of (1 − v2/c2)−1/2
than the system in the rest frame, meaning that every human life( if and as long as it has a concept of time )represents such a now complex, in which time is to be found, but only within the boundaries of the associated mind.
If the human consciousness moves in time, but the corresponding body itself does not, the conclusion is to be drawn, that at smaller mergers of nows within the human now complex, there are separate consciousnesses feeling the journey through time.
Therefore it has to be calculable how many of those conscious states a human now complex includes and therefore how often one appears in his own life.
The respective subject is then limited by time, constructed of almost innurable states of consciousness, all regarding themselves as the real present one, for eternity.
To put it in simpler terms: Your life is like a book, with the pages torn out and distributed on the floor. Every single page does exist equally next to the other, for ever.
Death can be defined as the first now of human now complex, from which on all following nows of that complex are not able to simulate the associated consciousness in relation to all other systems of the universe. This topic will be further discussed in the chapter devoted to the language analytics of the temporal Philosophy.
Going further into the book metaphor, you have a Universe consisting of several books, one them you, and the rate at which you read one book in relation to another is only determined by gravity and speed, the direction in which it is read by the laws of thermodynamics, the physical foundation will be specified at a given time. You should have a clearer pictures now, about the fundamental laws that determine this philosophy and to not stretch this introduction unnecessary i am now going to state the various forms of life that will be at the center of this philosophy.
It is defined by its relation to time and its perception and the practical part of this philosophy will be devoted to finding a series of demands u can set for interactions with the different kinds of life.
It will take some effort and will be discussed in different parts of this treatment but we will be able to split life into 4 categories:
unaware life
Aware life
Selfaware life
Selfaware life aware of timelessnes
Intuitivly less accessible and harder to visualize is going the be the approach to put a moral value on certain action, since the calculation will be determined by variable views on time, simply because life of every categories includes certain aspects of the previous categories and you will have to consider all possible angles on time before even trying on depicting a normative ethics of timelessness.
For the introduction into the temporal philosophy it will be enough to have a basic understanding of classical physics, thermodynamics and relativity. Quantummechanics will be introduced at a later stage to help us save the problem of the eternal return and derive the free will.
The speculative nature of this philosophy lays within the fact, that there is no scientific prove of its premise at the time this is being written and it therefore does not claim any sort of legitimation or applicability in the present moment.
I do think however, that a willing reader will have to accept the fact that a lot of things would have to change in human interaction if this premise is proven at a certain point and in the cultural evolution of every temporal philosophy it will be stated why a civilization is only able to conduct this thought process at a certain point of its development and even later will be able to accept its conclusions .
Aim of the methodology of the speculative temporal philosophy shall be: to present a perhaps purely biological distinction between the various layers of life made possible through a metaphysical framework in concurrence with and through current physical theories, along with the existing parameters respective to the aforementioned metaphysics study, as a basis for my chief work.
Sim, sim, o tempo não existe. Qual será a próxima palestra dele? A Terra não é redronda?
Time does not exist, like the english subtitles. 😂
Love from 🇮🇹
Grazie mille
Se non ricordo male Kant disse: "il tempo e lo spazio non esistono, sono solo due categorie con cui noi organizziamo mentalmente il mondo che ci circonda", o qualcosa di simile. Uno dei pochi ricordi degli studi classici che mi sono rimasti!
Non è esattamente così, il tempo e lo spazio sono le categorie a priori pure della sensibilità, e come tali sono le condizioni necessarie per la conoscenza, che è sempre conoscenza di qualcosa nel tempo e nello spazio.
Ecco perché ad esempio non è possibile conoscere Dio.
Il tempo è spazio...
@@nt559 Credo che più o meno abbiamo detto la stessa cosa...
Il "Tempo" si compie sempre pari a se stesso .. ovunque..
Sono d'accordo. Sono strumenti mentali umani utili a capire ovvero a noi umani sopravvivere. L'universo che con questi strumenti "scopriamo" è l'universo umano, incluso nel Universo del nostro Creatore
wonderful speaker
Se il tempo non esiste come fa a contrarsi quando ci si avvicina alla velocità della luce o in presenza di una grande massa?
Questo è completamente fuori dalla relatività, lo adoro.
c'hai capito nulla...
@@ilmettiu4632 Tu dici.
@Frank Walter non credo che sia questo ciò che dice.
Il "Tempo" si compie sempre pari a se stesso .. ovunque..
Esto ha estado buenísimo. Muchas gracias signore.
Complimenti al prof. Rovelli per la sua indubbia capacità di essere semplice e parimenti professionale e comunicativo.
Al di là però delle succose suggestioni che può suscitare la sua disquisizione, qui c’è qualcosa che non quadra.
Dunque… Il prof. Rovelli vorrebbe convincerci che il tempo NON ESISTE. Però ci parla di più tempi diversi che PASSANO, e poi ci rende noto che, all’interno di una certa equazione integrata, il tempo NON COMPARE. S’è capito però che nel mondo macroscopico il tempo COMPARE come un parametro riconducibile ad una ulteriore coordinata spaziale, e PASSA. Allora ESISTE eccome! Solo che ancora non è stato chiarito COSA ci possa essere dietro la sensazione dello scorrere di esso, ossia quali processi e strutture della realtà ne caratterizzino la natura, sotto la validazione sperimentale della SCIENZA e sotto la validazione concettuale della LOGICA (IN VERITA’ IL SOTTOSCRITTO UNA RISPOSTA NON FINALE MA ALMENO COERENTE CE L’AVREBBE).
Poi l’indeterminazione/quantizzazione dei processi microscopici produce, a valle della loro gigantesca sommatoria, l’esperienza del tempo macroscopico come SENSAZIONE CONCRETA (SEPPUR INGANNEVOLE SECONDO LA MIA CONCEZIONE) DEL SUO FLUIRE.
Insomma, secondo me, il tempo ESISTE come SENSAZIONE INGANNEVOLE e affiancata al tempo della fisica macroscopica, e SI PUO’ provare a svelare COSA c’è dietro.
+ANIBOL R meno male che ci sei tu a correggere Rovelli con la tua teoria del tempo come sensazione ingannevole.
Il Roger Penrose che sta ad Oxford non la pensa come te...
Metti un'altra MAIUSCOLA
tu dici ESISTE ma questo a mio parere e' l' equivoco. Il linguaggio e' pieno di buchi di neri che ci trapassano senza che ne siamo consapevoli ossia SIAMO parlati non parliamo. Io userei e' REALE ma relativamente come l' universo intero e' relativo. Ossia per la materia e dunque anche per noi il TEMPO e' reale anche se momentaneo perche' TUTTO E TUTTI scompaiono prima o poi ma il TEMPO NON ESISTE. Non so se sono riuscito a spiegarmi. Quello che tu chiami sensazione che passi e' solo lo spazio il quale ha bisogno di ESSERE PRESENTE e lo fa con l' aiuto del tempo ossia la materia che si srotola prende forma. Ma il tempo NON esiste. Puoi metterla cosi Dio c' e' ma non esiste ossia non e' nella dimensione spazio tempo che e' solo ILLUSIONE. Gli antichi indiano nella Bhagavad gita affermavano lo stesso. Ma ce ne siamo dimenticati. Kant scrisse lo stesso Schopenhauer anche il tempo lo spazio sono illusioni. O se la vuoi mettere come Shakespeare " siamo fatti della stessa sostanza dei sogni e la nostra vita e' circondata da sonno. Piu' chiaro di cosi....Puffh......scompariamo dunque il tempo NON ESISTE. Gli indiani (antichi) avevano capito che lo spazio tempo e' illusione MAYA e quello che e' REALE ma non in modo relativo come siamo noi e' l' ASSOLUTO ossia quello da cui tutto nasce e tutto ritorno e che per definizione e' INDEFINIBILE
"Secondo me" non si applica alla scienza. Gli esperimenti ci dicono che il tempo non esiste in termini assoluti ma semplicemente come un riferimento utile a comprendere e descrivere fenomeni,specialmente a velocità infinitesimali quando comparate a quella della luce. La filosofia appartiene ad un altro ambito. Quello che noi percepiamo non deve necessariamente essere "reale" ma come spesso accade,si tratta solo di "strumenti" con cui interfacciarsi con la "materia". Lei può dire che esiste il giallo in natura?O può dire che "giallo" esiste ed ha senso solo in quanto risposta ad un certo stimolo (lunghezza d'onda della luce) proveniente dall'interazione con altra materia (e solo quando interagisce con essa...)?
Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day
Fritter and waste the hours in an off-hand way
Kicking around on a piece of ground in your home town
Waiting for someone or something to show you the way
Tired of lying in the sunshine staying home to watch the rain
You are young and life is long and there is time to kill today
And then one day you find ten years have got behind you
No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun
And you run and you run to catch up with the sun but it's sinking
Racing around to come up behind you again
The sun is the same in a relative way, but you're older
Shorter of breath and one day closer to death
Every year is getting shorter, never seem to find the time
Plans that either come to naught or half a page of scribbled lines
Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way
The time is gone, the song is over, thought I'd something more to say
Home, home again
I like to be here when I can
When I come home cold and tired
It's good to warm my bones beside the fire
Far away, across the field
The tolling of the iron bell
Calls the faithful to their knees
To hear the softly spoken magic spell
cheers. Here's the lyrics for the album's next song: Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh
Aaaah aaaah aaaaaah
Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh.
They say " past present and future is just an illusion, both exist right now connected, and both dinosaur and humans exist now together"
Clearly this is absolutely wrong, because past present and future are just human views of nature state. They are not time by themselves, and time is just man made ideal (imaginary) tool. Right?
Thanks.
+Asrat Mengesha It's slight more complex than non-existence. It manifests itself in presence of limitations. Please, make yourself familiar to the term: epiphenomena.
It's going to help you embrace and synthesize "layered" thoughts.
@@Untilitpases Time really doesnot exist, this is hard to digest and imagine. You should be wired differently I guess to be attune to such knowledge. I have been trying to understand TIME for so long now. And yes,time doesnot exist, I am convinced,but its very difficult to make others understand this.
Bel video. GRAZIE. Luigi da Verona.
"Posso dire che mi sono svegliato nel momento in cui il sole sta li..." senza fare riferimento al tempo. Sonon l'unico che nota l'ironia in quella frase?
Si
perchè ironia?
Bravissimo!!
Poderiam disponibilizar legendas em Português também!
sim, coloquei na tradução nas configurações, deu para compreender bem
Il "Tempo" si compie sempre pari a se stesso .. ovunque..
Grandissimo!
He basically exlpain how the concept of "time" is a useful thing (that we use to organize our lives) here on planet heart... But not exactly in the outer space. He also tells that, regarding the placement of an object (like a clock) in that precise moment, is a proven fact that time runs at a different speed .. Apparently time goes faster at higher altitudes, while run slower over the sea level. The eg. he gives is that gps satellites, needs to be calibrated in order to work for us as good as they do. Just because of this...
He also said that the concept of "top and bottom" are useful just here on our planet... Eg. An astronaut, to an other space mate, won't say "pass that bag of water under you..." There's no under there's no above.
Basically... As these are very useful well defined concept, they remain that only at human size life. (not in the universe, nor at microscopic dimensions)
P. S. In an other talk, he also said that time is affected by gravity, wich I think is nearly adaptable to this last considerations.
My question is, if time does not exist, why can't we go back and forth on many event... I've been sixteen, just sixteen years ago and I won't be it anymore anytime anyway. Trees get older, iron get rust, things modify their essence.
Il "Tempo" si compie sempre pari a se stesso .. ovunque..
Time does not exist really means Consciousness is not just matter, matter is necessary but not sufficient.
ora che so che il tempo va più lento in basso.......non mi lamento più di abitare piano terra......😁
Anche il tuo cervello va più lento
@@sixsoxsex1 il tuo fino all ' abcd, non oltre
puoi anche andare sotto terra per stare piu in basso
Anche le tue facoltà biologiche sono rallentate, il tempo percipito è lo stesso
ma non penso fosse un'offesa... va piu lento tutto, anche tu e i tuoi pensieri, quindi non ne trai alcun vantaggio
E' sempre un piacere.👍👍👍
All'inizio del '900, nel mio paesello in Appennino (Piaggiasecca, comune di Sassoferrato, Pr. AN, Marche) c'era una donna anziana che non era mai uscita dalla vallata (circa 10 x 5 km). Andando in montagna per cercare le pecore arrivò ad un valico in cui non era mai arrivata, e vide la valle dell'Umbria dietro Monte Cucco e, stupita, esclamò: "Quanto è grande e grosso il mondo". Chissà come si era raffigurato il mondo fino ad allora?!!?
Ora si può andare praticamente ovunque ma spesso non apprezziamo e nemmeno capiamo ciò che vediamo.
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Grande!!
Time itself is human invented concept for the sake of convenience! It doesn't exist on itself, but rather changes that occur do! When you see people getting older, gowing up, stars born and die...what you see are "changes"! And TIME Got nothing to do with that! Simple as that! I do not speak italian, so i fon't know what he is talking about here, just wanted to weigh in!...
I concetti di alto e basso, seppur relativi, non cancellano però quello più generale di spazio. Che infatti, anche nell'esempio di Rovelli degli astronauti nello Spazio, è sempre presupposto quando questi devono indicare qualcosa, scegliendo altri punti di riferimento diversi da alto e basso. Il paragone non sembra quindi appropriato per illustrare la non necessità del concetto di tempo.
Quanto sarebbe bello sapere tutti i misteri dell'universo 🤔
D'avvero...l'idea che morirò senza conoscerli e senza nemmeno conoscere tutto dell'uomo e il suo destino mi fa impazzire....se potessi mi libererei immediatamente di 'sto cazzo di corpo e uploaderei la mia mente in un sistema artificiale immediatamente!
Per scoprire che non c'è fine a quel che si cerca? Sarebbe più semplice non credere di sapere,per non cercare quel che non si può trovare? 🤔🤯
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@Frank Walter più evolve la scienza,più evolve la strumentazione per verificarla,più si scoprono cose,che metteranno in dubbio ciò che si crede di sapere.. è un loop, per fortuna,l'uomo non ne uscirà mai.. Immaginiamo uno scenario in cui Copernico accetta la scienza dell'epoca come verità e apice del sapere in campo astronomico. La scienza deve fare di tutto anche per provare il contrario di ciò che è certa. Poi è solo un parere
@Frank Walter esatto
J M E Mctaggart is crying tears of joy in his grave
the professor Rovelli is perfectly right. Time doesn't exist. The ancient great Indian doctrine told the same and also the philosopher Kant. We can't accept this concept because we are feared of death but it doesn't change the fact that time doesn't exist.
Parmenide and Platone told the same before Kant.
You should study Kant again and better.
@@nt559 Your opinion.
@@nt559 Maybe you just have to STUDY the great Kant
Il "Tempo" si compie sempre pari a se stesso .. ovunque..
Carlo annoia la gente da anni spiegando una cosa risaputa: il tempo è relativo, dipendente dalla velocità tra osservatore ed osservato e dalle condizioni di gravità.
La prima cosa è nota da 115 anni.
La seconda da 105.
Ciò può essere detto perché spazio te tempo, due aspetti del movimento, sono osservabili e misurabili.
Ovviamente non si può misurare qualcosa che non c'è, essendo ogni misura un rapporto tra due campioni (esempi) della cosa da misurare.
Quindi spazio e tempo esistono.
Chi dice il contrario sta solo cercando di prendere in giro il prossimo con una bugia.
I frecking love when people moan and say ‘the day is dragging’ oh my my, yes please! Drag even longer!
The longer the days, they longer the life baby!
Time does not exist.
Because; time is an illusion.
-- Albert Einstein
You are consciousness.
And; consciousness is an unknown state.
From the unknown, all things are created.
--- dr. Joe Dispenza
Only the present moment exists from the perspective of experiences arising through consciousness.
For example; Present moment is not possible without consciousness.
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Difference between Conscious and consciousness ?
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You are an image based on your experience. And when you are conscious of a subject, then that image is conscious of the other image.
Because the observer ( you are ) is total sum of past experience.
-- Eckhart tolle
Every thought is a judgement.
-- Eckhart tolle
And; the judgement based on past experience.
-- Eckhart tolle
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Silence is a state of observation of consciousness.
Gravity Is not present here.
Stillness: the infinitely creative womb of all existence.
-- Eckhart tolle
Because we cannot get behind consciousness.
-- Max Planck ( Noblest )
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thoughtless observation is a state of present moment.
Another word for it is: presence consciousness without thought.
-- Eckhart tolle
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Means; “You are not IN the universe, you ARE the universe, an intrinsic part of it. Ultimately you are not a person, but a focal point where the universe is becoming conscious of itself. What an amazing miracle.” ~Eckhart Tolle
Our separation of each other is an optical illusion of consciousness.
-- Albert Einstein
@@honeys.kapoor2838 wow I needed to read this comment.
I nostri padri non hanno nulla da insegnarci, questo può essere vero. Non dimentichiamo però che anticamente, come è stato ammesso in conferenza, sapevano che la terra è tonda. Molto prima che noi la potessimo vedere. La scienza antica ed i miti, io sento che ci potrebbero dire molte cose, se fossimo in grado di ascoltarli.
In genere chi approfondisce troppo certi ambiti della conoscenza, tende a sottovalutare gli altri, senza contare che tutta la Fisica si basa su rapporti tra forze-energie e convenzioni che ci sono essenziali per capire le leggi naturali.
Noi viviamo comunque volenti o nolenti in un contesto in cui il concetto di tempo è fondamentale.
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He said that the clock that is higher reads a time that is later than the one which is lower. It would actually be the opposite. The clock which is higher is further away from the center of the Earth than the other one, thus it has a higher tangential speed. This means that time would pass slower for it, than the clock which is lower. So, it would actually read a time that is earlier than the one the other lower clock (it is the opposite of what he said). It is basically a twin paradox on an extremely small scale (the clock that is higher is the twin that goes on the spaceship, time passes slower for him, so his clock would be early, not late).
Please note that there are TWO different things that affect the passage of time according to Einstein: one is the speed you are moving at (relative to another clock - it's called "relativity" for a reason...), the other is the strength of the gravitational field you are in (otherwise put "the local curvature of space" - if any). The lecture's notion of "up" and "down" refers to the latter - as in, simply "hovering at a distance" from a large mass, NOT "in orbit around it". Whenever you are in an actual orbit, you need to consider the effects derived from both of those causes - something he does not elaborate on here.
Il "Tempo" si compie sempre pari a se stesso .. ovunque..
Se riesci a disattivare la sensazione di tempo, puoi guardare l' orologio e non ricordare a che cazzo serve. In effetti, forse, il tempo é l'ordine che la vita fa, mentre combatte l'entropia. Il tempo, in fin dei conti è una battaglia tra 2 parti che spingono in direzioni opposte il caos e l'ordine. In mezzo c'è il mondo, e tu.
Scusa Ti prendo ad esempio. Questi sono pensieri come risultato prodotto dalle lezioni di Rovelli.
@@paoloombras9309 no. Io questo lo penso da quando avevo 15 anni. La mia idea che l'entropia "È" il tempo, è tutta mia. Che poi possa essere un incredibile cazzata. Può essere...
Ogni tanto spunta fuori qualche suonata con queste teorie pseudofilosofiche, sono imbarazzanti.
@@ilmettiu4632 sei offensivo. Ma la mamma non ti ha insegnato l'educazione?
Interessantissimo
Time is just human language.
If time does exist in space and if time registers all events in space taught in relativity theory
then why do we need security cameras while we could read all events from time?
This is a subtle point and it requires not only serious study, but also deep reflection to realize. To offhandedly dismiss this important point is a demonstration of tragic ignorance.
Se consideri il tempo come quello segnato da una clessidra, allora si, le clessidre scorrono più velocemente a certe altezze che a altre, se invece lo consideri un po'più in astratto puoi confrontare le varie clessidre in base a questo tempo assoluto e fisso, che esiste così come esistono i numeri, anch'essi un'astrazione
Riflettendo sul tempo che non esiste, per la prima volta riesco ad immaginare e trovare quasi "logico" anche il mondo quantistico, comprese quelle che erroneamente consideriamo probabilità, ma in realtà è il concetto di tempo (che usiamo in modo sbagliato secondo la nostra percezione abituale) che ce le fa sembrare tali. Inoltre, sempre a livello puramente di immaginazione, finalmente riesco a vedere la fisica quantistica non in contraddizione con la relatività generale, senza che si generino strani paradossi a volerle mettere insieme. Secondo me è davvero una intuizione geniale, quella che il tempo non esiste. Chiaramente il lavoro duro sarà quello di riscrivere tutta la fisica senza il tempo e dimostrare che funziona meglio delle leggi che adoperiamo oggi.
Luciano De Crescenzo in "32 dicembre" diceva che il tempo non esiste :)
Very interesting, thanks