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Glad to see that people are finally starting to realise how ridiculous the MiG-31BM is. Huge, powerful radar with extremely powerful AAMs (R-37M, R-77-1, R-74) and it goes stupidly quick and high. It's somewhat of a one trick pony but damn it's a good trick
@@johnwurfel2862 Yeah stealth isnt invisibility, even if your radar cross-section is like a bird, no bird flies at mach 1, but as mentioned above, good luck trying to keep lock onto it. I guess If we took f22 and mig 31 and combined we would get the future fighter jet, heavy and clunky, with extremely powerful engines, to lift insanely heavy and big radar + stealth and insane missles, pretty much the BVR killing machine, the times of dogfighting and cool stuff are over :(
Block 70 F-16's have better radar, and would make quick work of it in BVR. F-15EX would too. As for the R-37, all info we have on its capabilities is from Russian claims. So take it with a grain of salt
@@loganday5470 Zalson-M Radar. Range of 250 Miles against AWAC sized targets. About 150 miles against fighter jets sized targets. Versus the APG-83 Radar in the new F-16, with a range of 230 Miles against similar size targets, and over 300 against AWAC sized targets. What's your point?
Yeah...not fun to just suddenly blow up and die when you have no idea that the enemy is even there. BVR lethality wins...and then the counter to that becomes undetectable stealth+AWACS-enhanced BVR capability.
Every GS BVR video drives home the point that you can never carry enough Fox-3s. You're going to throw away 3 just forcing your opponent to defend so you can get close enough to kill him with the 4th.
@@3081s1k It looks like Russia has been developing a new generation of missiles. Izdeliye 180-PD => Ram-jet version of the R-77. Russia's answer to the European Meteor AAM. Izdeliye 810 => Su-57's long range weapon. (Providing MiG-31 capability to their stealthy platform). Izdeliye 300M => Russia's answer to the AIM-9X, AIM-132 ASRAAM, etc.
This fight (Mig-31 vs F16) isn't even a direct comparison. The Mig-31 would more directly compare to the F15. And the F22 is so far out of the Mig-31s league it's not even funny.
This video and the previous one **REALLY** makes me appreciate the 5th gen fighters now. The F-22 was built with the mantra of "first look, first shot, first kill", and that that was exactly what was going on here. Doesn't matter how good your turn rate is when you can't even push to the merge with Mig-31s because you just get popped from miles away.
@@therocinante3443 I see that, can learn a lot from his experience and technique. I’m new to DCS, but not flight Sims, and had fair share of flying small aircraft over the years. What I could use is help setting up F16 settings, a bit complicated, I know I need to learn a lot, but sure could use some guidance. Got P51 figured out decently enough, Jets on whole new level. Can you guide me anywhere? Info a bit hard to find.
And this is why the old Mig-31 is no joke. It should be noted that the only air to air kill (at least officially admitted) by the Iraqi air force on an American aircraft was done with the older Mig-25. That Iraqi pilot used his Mig-25 in exactly the manner it was designed to be used doing long range hit and run BVR attacks and then retreating on full afterburner moving at tremendous speeds. The Mig-31 is only slightly slower, but has better maneuverability, better radar, a WSO, networking capability, and IR sensors as backup. It also has more fuel efficient engines and a much longer range. It is no doubt the best high-speed interceptor aircraft in the world currently.
Man all of those deaths were brutal but that one where you were diving into the ravine yelling "I'm not gonna make it" had me jumping out of my seat when it hit! That's scary...
Pucker factor indeed! So much for the 'get down on the deck and hide in the ground clutter' theory. Raptor seems to be the only way to escape the R-33s and hunt down the Foxhounds.
Considering the Foxhound's R-33 or R-37 depending on which missile is being used by Mig-31 Foxhound, the missile has far superior range which is why they can easily shoot down the F-16C
Think of the R-37 as the Russian AIM-54 Phoenix. Only difference is, both The Foxhound and said Missile are still in service to this day while the F-14 and AIM-54 Phoenix is not
@@razorback139 the Both the R-33 and the R-37 (MiG31 missiles) are much more maneuverable than the Phoenix. The MiG31 is also faster than the F-14 (consequentially better missile launch speed) and his PESA radar is far more powerful.
@@FranciscoPartidas until today? That they would have probably gotten better than today’s MiG31, after the fall of the USSR Russia’s technological progress slowed down a lot. But in the 80s the F-14 was still upgraded, and the MiG31 already massively outranged it at the time. Other than the massive radar the high speed and high operational altitude of the MiG31 are big advantages
@@UUUU-dn9wz maybe the most difficult to achieve is speed (for aerodinamics sake) so you got a point on this. But I think radar and missile improvement could be achievable by western technology (if they wanted).
I'm old enough to remember when this thing first came out. The BIG deals were the incredible speed (carried on from the Mig 25), but the biggest deal was the radar and it's ability to "look down/shoot down". I would love to see how the GAME models radar acquisition ranges of aircraft that would likely make up a modern day strike package. I didn't see it in the video.....but was lock EVER achieved by our brave "Morons"?😋😋
Well sort of. There is an important difference. The Mig-31 is a BVR interceptor, while the F-35 is a BVR air superiority fighter. The mig will be able to engage at longer distances because it has a long range radar specifically made to take shots much further than any other plane, a couple hundred kilometers in fact . The F-35 is more of a goldy lochs plane. It is more designed towards a BVR engagement at minimal range. The rockets that it usually carries are not meant for vast distances. After all, you can only have so much room for an internally mounted rocket. It uses it's stealth to get close enough to take a reliable shot and the idea is that once the enemy discovers the plane it is far too late. The F-22 would be a closer competitor, as it has super cruise capabilities and a bit more optimized for long range engagements.
@@youtubasoarus That 4rth gen looks liek it is the same on the outside, but it has completely new and modern avionics that are on the same level as the Su-57. The upgrade was designed to work with new generation equipment.
I guess this proves that PESA radars are still better than mechanically-scanned radars and that they are very useful against 4th-gen non-stealth fighters.
@@airbornestuff Besides, the Zazlon is not just any PESA radar, it was the first radar in the world with electronic scanning back in 1981, imagine that the latest version of 2001 is even much superior. When an interceptor like the Mig-31 flies so high and fast its destructive power is very great, basically it has all the advantages.
@@airbornestuff I have to imagine most of them have been upgraded by now. The MiG-31 is a plane Russia actually takes pretty seriously, since taking out support craft is so important in any theoretical fight against NATO.
F-22 aside, I think the Mirage might unironically be the best shot at this deal. It's really good at getting in and out of the notch quickly, and it seems to be extra slippery once you're in. And if you could get a serious Mirage notch-master like OldSauveur, I think you'd really have a good chance. A handgun beats a knife, a rifle beats a handgun, artillery beats a rifle. Want to take out the artillery? Send in a guy with a knife.
The only problem with them is their lack of stealth. Against a plane with an equally powerful radar, or one that has much greater stealth capabilities allowing it to get closer, it runs into problems. Still though, an insane plane lmao
The AIM-260 and LREW in US service are going to be interesting weapons to track, as well as the development of the PL-15 in China. All of these are going to have insanely long range.
@@user-vr1ur2rd2x I think you are refering to the Mig25 who had a turbojet engine and high speeds destroyed the engine but the 31 can fly at top speeds Mach 3 without a problem
@@JonasCVogt That’s the max speed allowed under normal circumstances. The airframe and engines are actually good for a little over Mach 3. But like the MiG-25 doing so risks doing irreparable damage to the engines so in general they are temperature limited to 2.83 to safeguard the engines.
Looking the Mig31 up, it's a big plane, 50,000 kg with the biggest radar ever in a fighter class Jet.... Biggest engines Biggest missiles - seems like it's firing long range Sam missiles from the air! no surprises they used it, can cover so much ground and control a lot of the air space BVR monster.
Dude, came across your channel a few weeks ago, and have been binge watching since then! Had to look up what DCS was...had just reinstalled Air Navy Fighters app on my phone. Keep up the great work, love the enthusiasm!!!
At 7:23 GS goes “ I have them on data lin… I got another missile in the air “ dude didn’t even get to finish his sentence before he got locked on again
Raptor would force migs to come way closer to lock onto you but still you dont really stand a chance of fighting them 2 just turn tail and run and hope you make it
Always like these boss fight kind of videos, would like to see BVR bandit unknown if it's possible (due to the RWR showing which aircraft's radar is hitting you)
Ok so the 45 attempts in a ROW where I and a wingmate in F/A-18c's tried to take down a pair of Fox-31's and we failed EVERY SINGLE TIME... I shouldn't feel so bad :P
Before I even finish watching this, thank you for both of these and for bringing Longshot in on this one. Thank you Longshot for letting me laugh at you as well. This is priceless.
In 1997, one of IAF's top secret MiG-25R Foxbat broke the sound barrier over Islamabad while flying above Mach 2. In panic, pakistan scrambled its F-16s to intercept the intruder, but the Indian MiG-25, flying at those heights unachievable by F-16 and out of range of any SAM in pakistan inventory, continued its flight unchallenged. The IAF was making a statement there. I suddenly remembered this incident while seeing the title, so I'm sharing it with you.
If it weren't for the incredible expense of moving all the electronics from place to place, these two could fill an amphitheater with nerds dying to watch their antics in real time. THE LONG/SIDEWINDER TOUR.....i want a tee shirt
Semi-serious question: Could you face the missile head on and just spam your gun in hopes of shooting it down? Or maybe even locking onto it? The thing wants blood, might as well give it something to chew on.
GS actually shot down a missile with his own missile in another video, so it can be done. But I think getting either a heat- or radar lock on a missile is super hard and you’d need a lot of luck to pull it off. Guns are not very useful because these things come at you with mach 5, by the time it’s in range of your guns, it’s already hit you
i'm not a big fan of the foxhound .. but man i am now 😁 ... i got in love with it just bcuz of how it performs amazingly and easily troubles such good pilot like you first i watched the one where u go with an f-14 ... and i said u probably failed bcuz of the f-14's low maneuverability rate ...but in this video in the Viper a plane with good amount of acceleration and maneuverability and having the same result .. it really means that the foxhound is something
You know this kind of reminds me of that mission in Ace combat 7 where you have to fly through the mountains to avoid satellite launched missiles, the only difference here is... *THAT WILL NOT SAVE YOU HERE!!!*
You need to try the F-15 v the Mig-31, I'd like to see that. Both aircrafts at top speed, maybe the f-15 could get away from those big missiles the mig-31 is spearing
Absolutely NOT. Those missiles move at speeds over Mach 5 which is hypersonic. The fastest any F-15 with a clean setup is Mach 2.3 man. It would get slaughtered just like the F-16 and F-14 did. They designed the MiG-31 Foxhound to be THE fastest, highest range, and hardest hitting high speed interception fighter ever built, and it does that flawlessly.
Next try again using the F-35, and if that still doesn't work bring out the mighty F-22. If that still doesn't work, I think it's safe to say the Mig-31 is the ultimate air superiority aircraft.
Christ this is like a terror film…the missiles from the MiG-31s are so unforgiving! Either the MiG-31’s own PESA are really good against notching and can guide the R-37M, or the R-37M itself is jacked. Definitely not an easy fight!
MIG 31 has the biggest most powerful radar on any Russian fighter. Maybe not the most advanced though. That would probably go to SU 57's AESA radars. But they're always modernizing so who knows.
@@davidsmith8997 nah man..its an interceptor..its job is to defend Russian sky not destroying enemy aircraft of enemy airspace... So,its normal that you wont see this in Ukrainian airspace..
@@davidsmith8997 the only use an aircraft like that has in that conflict is launching cruise missiles so i fail to see the point you are trying to make
Maybe there's a chance with the Eurofighter given is reduced RCS... Not counting the F-22 of course... Also the Meteor should give you a bit more of a fighting chance... maybe?
I know nothing about this so someone tell me…what would be the US aircraft that could counter the MiG-31 (besides F-22 and F-35 obviously)….thing seems so dominant here
How many times do you need to get shot down by Mig-31s before you figure out that it isn't worth trying to fight them at BVR? Who would have guessed that having radars and missiles with three times the range would be an advantage?
That's the fun of it! Being outmanned and/or outgunned and winning is the most satisfying feeling no matter what you are doing, its like a coffee bean knocking a whole criminal organization down, or 4 people weathering endless hordes of the undead, its the thrill, the adrenaline, and the dopamine when you win. And it's always more enjoyable with friends, of course.
@@kerfooey7946 - I understand that beating the missile by notching is exciting but the amount of ground they need to cover to get within range with their missiles is too much to overcome.
You said eject eject and I was thinking there is nothing left to push the eject button on that blast at the beginning lmao. Can't wait to play some DCS when i get my new computer. I have always loved flying so much and advanced Avaiton is sweet with Jet to play with in such a real sim and your Vids will help me learn when I do. Thanks man for your Vids love them.
You should face this with S-500 air cover thrown in for good measure to get the feel of the real deal of what the red team (aggressor) may have on its hands
@@VisibilityFoggy the S500 has some missiles that have anti ballistic and even anti satellite roles. But there are other missiles which have a longer range anti aircraft area denial mode
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Typhoon + Meteor ...
Could you do F-86 sabre vs Folland Gnat?
Basically, the MiG-31 is an airborne SAM site.
You are always reliable to sacrifice every single person in order to prop up yer ego. But you don't totally suck.
Want to see Eurofighter Typhoon vs Dassault Rafale vs SAAB Gripen E BVR (Meteor Missile) dogfight.
You really brought Longshot into the Mig-31 pain you felt a few episodes ago?! Ruthless.... 🤣
if I must suffer, he must suffer with me lol its only fair.
@@GrowlingSidewinder there's definitely enough pain to go around! :D
@@GrowlingSidewinder I dont like this deal
@@GrowlingSidewinder thats a level of a friendship :D
suffering shared is the best kind of suffering
therapist: the mig31 missile is notched, it cant hurt you.
the mig 31 missile: *nukes the pilot*
In Mother Russia, MiG-31 missiles notches YOU!
@@tigereyewong9757 That doesn't make any sense
@@aybaws neither do you in Mother Russia
@@williewilson2250 lamo
What’s the point in notching what’s the point of chaff? Mig31 missile unstoppable
Thought you'd be flying the Mig-31, but you chose pain instead.
The 31 doesn't have a flyable flight model for players I think
@@twinblade02 He uses a modded version to be able to go against the Mig-31BM which can carry the deadly R-37M, as far as I know
@@frostgd8040 Ah I see
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Glad to see that people are finally starting to realise how ridiculous the MiG-31BM is. Huge, powerful radar with extremely powerful AAMs (R-37M, R-77-1, R-74) and it goes stupidly quick and high. It's somewhat of a one trick pony but damn it's a good trick
@@johnwurfel2862 Detecting stealth aircraft is not a big deal. It is maintaining the lock and guiding your missiles into them is difficult
@@johnwurfel2862 Yeah stealth isnt invisibility, even if your radar cross-section is like a bird, no bird flies at mach 1, but as mentioned above, good luck trying to keep lock onto it.
I guess If we took f22 and mig 31 and combined we would get the future fighter jet, heavy and clunky, with extremely powerful engines, to lift insanely heavy and big radar + stealth and insane missles, pretty much the BVR killing machine, the times of dogfighting and cool stuff are over :(
Block 70 F-16's have better radar, and would make quick work of it in BVR. F-15EX would too.
As for the R-37, all info we have on its capabilities is from Russian claims. So take it with a grain of salt
Do you know what kind of radar the Mig31 has or what it’s specs are shinobi?
@@loganday5470 Zalson-M Radar.
Range of 250 Miles against AWAC sized targets.
About 150 miles against fighter jets sized targets.
Versus the APG-83 Radar in the new F-16, with a range of 230 Miles against similar size targets, and over 300 against AWAC sized targets.
What's your point?
I was having kind of a sad day, but this video cheered me up! Best duo in DCS!
Glad we were able to cheer you up a little, hope your day gets better.
@@GrowlingSidewinder Yeah, it sure did get better 😄
"I'm in the nothch!...Am I in the nothch?"....blank screen (nope)
More than any other plane (except maybe the F-22), the Mig-31 makes me appreciate why the air force decided to prioritize BVR
Yeah...not fun to just suddenly blow up and die when you have no idea that the enemy is even there. BVR lethality wins...and then the counter to that becomes undetectable stealth+AWACS-enhanced BVR capability.
Every GS BVR video drives home the point that you can never carry enough Fox-3s. You're going to throw away 3 just forcing your opponent to defend so you can get close enough to kill him with the 4th.
@@Brian-or2jy If your Fox-3 is an AIM-120D or R-37...or worse the AIM-260 JATM, which is allegedly now operational, you might only need one. 😉
I mean in this case they got owned because the mig 31 is a bvr beast, but with other planes bvr might not always work
@@3081s1k It looks like Russia has been developing a new generation of missiles.
Izdeliye 180-PD => Ram-jet version of the R-77. Russia's answer to the European Meteor AAM.
Izdeliye 810 => Su-57's long range weapon. (Providing MiG-31 capability to their stealthy platform).
Izdeliye 300M => Russia's answer to the AIM-9X, AIM-132 ASRAAM, etc.
The video should’ve been called Two Morons take on 2 MiG-31’s
yeah I question this guy's expertise at anything, all the talking, he sounds like a giddy 4 year old.
Or two ducks get shot by hunters repeatedly. 😂
Yes, that definitely had the Morons vibe.😄
Lol! Best comment
@@youtubasoarus or two fish in a barrel
Foxhounds are pretty good at what they do! 31's are not big believers in "the notch" being a thing......
Great stuff as always! Maybe try Mig-31 vs F-22 for once, maybe stealth gives the edge.
Maybe MiG-31 vs F-35 would be better
@@pd28cat bruhh XD
Yes.....F-22/F-35 vs Mig-31!!
It won't even lock lmao
This fight (Mig-31 vs F16) isn't even a direct comparison. The Mig-31 would more directly compare to the F15. And the F22 is so far out of the Mig-31s league it's not even funny.
Growling sidewinder must be having nightmares of a Mig-31 sniping him from the other side of the world
This video and the previous one **REALLY** makes me appreciate the 5th gen fighters now.
The F-22 was built with the mantra of "first look, first shot, first kill", and that that was exactly what was going on here.
Doesn't matter how good your turn rate is when you can't even push to the merge with Mig-31s because you just get popped from miles away.
3:00 i still got scared by the missile, i even saw the smoke trail..
According to DCS, who needs stealth when you can successfully fire & kill your enemies from the other hemisphere.
Spot on, bruhhh
6:39 goddamn that R-37 sounded like a railgun shot
I am new to DCS and stumbled across your channel, very informative, but more importantly, entertaining and humorous, keep up the great work!
If you're interested in air to air combat, this is the guy to learn from.
You want regret it.
@@therocinante3443 I see that, can learn a lot from his experience and technique. I’m new to DCS, but not flight Sims, and had fair share of flying small aircraft over the years. What I could use is help setting up F16 settings, a bit complicated, I know I need to learn a lot, but sure could use some guidance. Got P51 figured out decently enough, Jets on whole new level. Can you guide me anywhere? Info a bit hard to find.
Thank very much for your comment, I’m very grateful plenty more to come in the future.
@@dioad1739 "won't"?
Ahhh, Mig31. My childhood favourite.
Thanks for making them even scarier.
And this is why the old Mig-31 is no joke. It should be noted that the only air to air kill (at least officially admitted) by the Iraqi air force on an American aircraft was done with the older Mig-25. That Iraqi pilot used his Mig-25 in exactly the manner it was designed to be used doing long range hit and run BVR attacks and then retreating on full afterburner moving at tremendous speeds. The Mig-31 is only slightly slower, but has better maneuverability, better radar, a WSO, networking capability, and IR sensors as backup. It also has more fuel efficient engines and a much longer range. It is no doubt the best high-speed interceptor aircraft in the world currently.
GS: "I'm in the notch..."
Narrator: "He was *not* in the notch!"
Narrator: it turns out the missile doesn't care.
"What's up nerd?", "Shut up!". Excellent intro, lol.
Man all of those deaths were brutal but that one where you were diving into the ravine yelling "I'm not gonna make it" had me jumping out of my seat when it hit! That's scary...
I feel like you brought the unsuspecting Longshot to this seal clubbing knowing full well the comedy that would ensue. Nicely done :)
Pucker factor indeed! So much for the 'get down on the deck and hide in the ground clutter' theory. Raptor seems to be the only way to escape the R-33s and hunt down the Foxhounds.
R-37s, those are the mach 15 missiles.
@@ofekk213 Oh yes, correct.
@@ofekk213 Mach 5*
At mach 15 that shit would be flying into orbit.
Considering the Foxhound's R-33 or R-37 depending on which missile is being used by Mig-31 Foxhound, the missile has far superior range which is why they can easily shoot down the F-16C
Think of the R-37 as the Russian AIM-54 Phoenix. Only difference is, both The Foxhound and said Missile are still in service to this day while the F-14 and AIM-54 Phoenix is not
@@razorback139 the Both the R-33 and the R-37 (MiG31 missiles) are much more maneuverable than the Phoenix. The MiG31 is also faster than the F-14 (consequentially better missile launch speed) and his PESA radar is far more powerful.
@@UUUU-dn9wz that makes you think what would happened if yanks were keeping upgrading both the F14 and the Phoenix for two decades more.
@@FranciscoPartidas until today? That they would have probably gotten better than today’s MiG31, after the fall of the USSR Russia’s technological progress slowed down a lot. But in the 80s the F-14 was still upgraded, and the MiG31 already massively outranged it at the time. Other than the massive radar the high speed and high operational altitude of the MiG31 are big advantages
@@UUUU-dn9wz maybe the most difficult to achieve is speed (for aerodinamics sake) so you got a point on this.
But I think radar and missile improvement could be achievable by western technology (if they wanted).
Sidewinder makes a seemingly impossible task, then brings Longshot along just to feel the pain 😂
I'm old enough to remember when this thing first came out. The BIG deals were the incredible speed (carried on from the Mig 25), but the biggest deal was the radar and it's ability to "look down/shoot down". I would love to see how the GAME models radar acquisition ranges of aircraft that would likely make up a modern day strike package. I didn't see it in the video.....but was lock EVER achieved by our brave "Morons"?😋😋
I saw the episode of Wings of the Red Star - MiG-25 Foxbat & MiG-31 Foxhound. I was impressed to learn of its data-link capability.
Longshot: Are you still alive
Growler: Yeah BOOB!!!!!! Cuts to heaven. Epic
I'm still not sure what happend. 😩
4:24 had me laughing my lungs out. 😂
Also, F35 BVR pls
So good that they scrapped all that ATA capability of those Mig-31s for them to be able to carry that hudge Kh-47M2 Kinzhal missile.
so essentially, the takeaway here is, if a Mig 31 fires a hypersonic at you its best to just immediately eject because you are already dead.
3:27 Two ghosts catching up & having a light moment before crossing over 😂
2 F-35s vs 2 MiG-31s. Since this R-37 just became operational in 2019. Let's compare apples to apples.
Well sort of. There is an important difference. The Mig-31 is a BVR interceptor, while the F-35 is a BVR air superiority fighter. The mig will be able to engage at longer distances because it has a long range radar specifically made to take shots much further than any other plane, a couple hundred kilometers in fact . The F-35 is more of a goldy lochs plane. It is more designed towards a BVR engagement at minimal range. The rockets that it usually carries are not meant for vast distances. After all, you can only have so much room for an internally mounted rocket. It uses it's stealth to get close enough to take a reliable shot and the idea is that once the enemy discovers the plane it is far too late. The F-22 would be a closer competitor, as it has super cruise capabilities and a bit more optimized for long range engagements.
@@foshizzlfizzl radar is imp factors
@@foshizzlfizzl Yeah good point. The modernized stuff is almost completely different than the old stuff, so u right. U right.
5th gen v. 4th gen.... okay lol 🤣
@@youtubasoarus That 4rth gen looks liek it is the same on the outside, but it has completely new and modern avionics that are on the same level as the Su-57. The upgrade was designed to work with new generation equipment.
Burst out laughing at 4:25, thanks I needed that xD
I guess this proves that PESA radars are still better than mechanically-scanned radars and that they are very useful against 4th-gen non-stealth fighters.
@@ChrisHimself1357 AESA radar advantages are more classified TBF.
Haha bouncy wifi go BRRRRRRR
@@airbornestuff Besides, the Zazlon is not just any
PESA radar, it was the first radar in the world with electronic scanning back in 1981, imagine that the latest version of 2001 is even much superior. When an interceptor like the Mig-31 flies so high and fast its destructive power is very great, basically it has all the advantages.
@@airbornestuff I have to imagine most of them have been upgraded by now. The MiG-31 is a plane Russia actually takes pretty seriously, since taking out support craft is so important in any theoretical fight against NATO.
Mig-31BM?
Those Mig 31's are your nemesis. Lol. That was a lot like the Tomcat vs Foxhound vid. Had me laughing. Great vid as usual.
F-22 aside, I think the Mirage might unironically be the best shot at this deal. It's really good at getting in and out of the notch quickly, and it seems to be extra slippery once you're in. And if you could get a serious Mirage notch-master like OldSauveur, I think you'd really have a good chance. A handgun beats a knife, a rifle beats a handgun, artillery beats a rifle. Want to take out the artillery? Send in a guy with a knife.
I really enjoy these videos where despite your skill and experience, you still get excited about getting your head kicked in. Well done sir!
I like 1's greeting to 2.
GS: sup nerd
LS: shutup
That's when I knew I was going to love this video. Keep it comin fellas!
G: You okay?
L: _sniffles_ no...
you guys are hilarious, keep those coming lmao
9:52 Remember when you were a kid and you found a fly and you took its wings, legs, and head off. That would be this engagement.
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So Mig 31 is clrealy the best BVR fighter. Those AWACs killers are insane
The only problem with them is their lack of stealth. Against a plane with an equally powerful radar, or one that has much greater stealth capabilities allowing it to get closer, it runs into problems. Still though, an insane plane lmao
The AIM-260 and LREW in US service are going to be interesting weapons to track, as well as the development of the PL-15 in China. All of these are going to have insanely long range.
@@LevSeven_ Speed is stealth on its own ;)
Underestimating the Mig31 Foxhounds can be catastrophic
@@user-vr1ur2rd2x I think you are refering to the Mig25 who had a turbojet engine and high speeds destroyed the engine but the 31 can fly at top speeds Mach 3 without a problem
@@user-vr1ur2rd2x exactly
@@user-vr1ur2rd2x Which source states Mach 3 as top speed for the Mig-31? Mach 2.83 is officially stated.
@@JonasCVogt
That’s the max speed allowed under normal circumstances.
The airframe and engines are actually good for a little over Mach 3. But like the MiG-25 doing so risks doing irreparable damage to the engines so in general they are temperature limited to 2.83 to safeguard the engines.
I want more of the foxhound series 😊
Looking the Mig31 up, it's a big plane, 50,000 kg with the biggest radar ever in a fighter class Jet....
Biggest engines
Biggest missiles - seems like it's firing long range Sam missiles from the air!
no surprises they used it, can cover so much ground and control a lot of the air space
BVR monster.
Basically a flying S400
"It's not the plain, it's the missile."
Dude, came across your channel a few weeks ago, and have been binge watching since then! Had to look up what DCS was...had just reinstalled Air Navy Fighters app on my phone. Keep up the great work, love the enthusiasm!!!
Thanks man, really appreciate you checking out the channel. hope you stick around.
At 7:23 GS goes “ I have them on data lin… I got another missile in the air “ dude didn’t even get to finish his sentence before he got locked on again
time to bring out the Raptor.
Now I’m curious to see if the raptors stealth tech will give ya the chance to get into stand-off distance.
True if Raptor can’t beat old Mig31 WTH is the United States doing?
@@SupaMan2122 I think the Raptor and SU-57 can't be locked in DCS.
@@JazzJaRa The 2 Morons locked and killed the Felon, then it killed them again
Raptor would force migs to come way closer to lock onto you but still you dont really stand a chance of fighting them 2 just turn tail and run and hope you make it
@@AlenB29 not really, Mig31 can't outturn anything
Important Safety tip: Don't engage MiG-31s with F-16s. Thanks for making the video. Enjoyed it.
that pulp fiction cut had me lol 😂
"You ok?"
"... No."
You two crack me up.
The John Travolta in heaven had me dyin dude well placed meme😂
Argentina is planning to buy Mig 31 , this would be a perfect hipotetic combat over Los Andes among chilean f-16 block 50 and the argentinian Mig 31
Longshot channeling his inner Anakin lol
"2, Eject!"
".... eject?? Nothing is left!" 😅
Always like these boss fight kind of videos, would like to see BVR bandit unknown if it's possible (due to the RWR showing which aircraft's radar is hitting you)
Ok so the 45 attempts in a ROW where I and a wingmate in F/A-18c's tried to take down a pair of Fox-31's and we failed EVERY SINGLE TIME... I shouldn't feel so bad :P
Those Mighty Mig 31s are scary bro... Falling in love with them
"Eject? Nothing's left!"
😂😂
I jumped really hard at 6:40, that gave me flashbacks of close-range Aim-54s
Before I even finish watching this, thank you for both of these and for bringing Longshot in on this one. Thank you Longshot for letting me laugh at you as well. This is priceless.
In 1997, one of IAF's top secret MiG-25R Foxbat broke the sound barrier over Islamabad while flying above Mach 2. In panic, pakistan scrambled its F-16s to intercept the intruder, but the Indian MiG-25, flying at those heights unachievable by F-16 and out of range of any SAM in pakistan inventory, continued its flight unchallenged. The IAF was making a statement there.
I suddenly remembered this incident while seeing the title, so I'm sharing it with you.
Eurofighter meteor, amazing range, F22 stealth, close before seen... Imagine the 2 fighting together :O
Alternative title for the video: Mig 31 x2 bullying f-16 x2 😂😂
If it weren't for the incredible expense of moving all the electronics from place to place, these two could fill an amphitheater with nerds dying to watch their antics in real time. THE LONG/SIDEWINDER TOUR.....i want a tee shirt
How about The LongWunde
I love even if you and Longshot are dying you still find a way to laugh
Nice to see another collaboration with Longshot! You guys really have fun and make it fun for us to watch!
"Two morons try to dodge hypersonic missiles"
Legend says, they are still trying to adjust the notch.
Semi-serious question: Could you face the missile head on and just spam your gun in hopes of shooting it down? Or maybe even locking onto it? The thing wants blood, might as well give it something to chew on.
GS actually shot down a missile with his own missile in another video, so it can be done. But I think getting either a heat- or radar lock on a missile is super hard and you’d need a lot of luck to pull it off. Guns are not very useful because these things come at you with mach 5, by the time it’s in range of your guns, it’s already hit you
I though this might be a fun scenerio until I saw the stats. The F16 gun (M61 vulcan) has a range of 600 meters.
@@airbornestuff Ahh yes, the ol' Pump & Dump! Classic. It great for Air-to-air combat, investment fraud schemes and alcoholic breastfeeding mothers.
No.
The best countermeasure against the foxhound is to eject.
Flee to fight another day 😁
i'm not a big fan of the foxhound .. but man i am now 😁 ... i got in love with it just bcuz of how it performs amazingly and easily troubles such good pilot like you
first i watched the one where u go with an f-14 ... and i said u probably failed bcuz of the f-14's low maneuverability rate ...but in this video in the Viper a plane with good amount of acceleration and maneuverability and having the same result .. it really means that the foxhound is something
- " _this method seems to be ineffective_ "
*Teal'c, SGC-1*
love SG1
You know this kind of reminds me of that mission in Ace combat 7 where you have to fly through the mountains to avoid satellite launched missiles, the only difference here is... *THAT WILL NOT SAVE YOU HERE!!!*
Given the environment, I’d say it’s more like Ghosts of Razgriz from AC5
"If you look to left of you, high, you can see me (Jogging up the stairways to heaven). That "last ditch" tho.
Looks like you met your match in the mig-31
This should be added to "Two morons" series.
You need to try the F-15 v the Mig-31, I'd like to see that. Both aircrafts at top speed, maybe the f-15 could get away from those big missiles the mig-31 is spearing
Absolutely NOT. Those missiles move at speeds over Mach 5 which is hypersonic. The fastest any F-15 with a clean setup is Mach 2.3 man. It would get slaughtered just like the F-16 and F-14 did. They designed the MiG-31 Foxhound to be THE fastest, highest range, and hardest hitting high speed interception fighter ever built, and it does that flawlessly.
the only way to get faster than the MiG-31 is to be in an SR-71 :P
@@cursedcliff7562 sr71 cant carry missiles 😆
@@gtmike916 at high Speed, turn radius increase exponentially. You don't judge a missile only by speed.
@@thecuriouseagle YF-12 can
Omg that Zaslon radar on mig 31 is badass,... Flying around over 2 mach shooting R37 around,.. Really the best BVR interceptor
Next try again using the F-35, and if that still doesn't work bring out the mighty F-22. If that still doesn't work, I think it's safe to say the Mig-31 is the ultimate air superiority aircraft.
Ultimate bvr aircraft maybe seeing as it won't be able to do much in wvr.
The Foxhound with those missiles is no joke 0_0
Christ this is like a terror film…the missiles from the MiG-31s are so unforgiving!
Either the MiG-31’s own PESA are really good against notching and can guide the R-37M, or the R-37M itself is jacked. Definitely not an easy fight!
Foxhound uses a huge ass radar..so its easy to guide those extreme fast and long range missiles
MIG 31 has the biggest most powerful radar on any Russian fighter. Maybe not the most advanced though. That would probably go to SU 57's AESA radars. But they're always modernizing so who knows.
@@davidsmith8997 nah man..its an interceptor..its job is to defend Russian sky not destroying enemy aircraft of enemy airspace...
So,its normal that you wont see this in Ukrainian airspace..
Notch only works against Pulse doppler radars
@@davidsmith8997 the only use an aircraft like that has in that conflict is launching cruise missiles so i fail to see the point you are trying to make
Love when you fly with longshot
Maybe there's a chance with the Eurofighter given is reduced RCS... Not counting the F-22 of course... Also the Meteor should give you a bit more of a fighting chance... maybe?
I think a fight between MiG-31s and anything that can fire the Meteor missile would be a great setup!
I know nothing about this so someone tell me…what would be the US aircraft that could counter the MiG-31 (besides F-22 and F-35 obviously)….thing seems so dominant here
As far as I know the F14 can long shot the hell out of people aswell
imagine a sniper versus a soldier with a AR 15 basically
Mig31 is a Flying big ass radar
@@moradhaddaji8056 With missiles that fire at 300km
@@Ropetor or even more
I've never seen you get so thoroughly trounced like that 👀
How many times do you need to get shot down by Mig-31s before you figure out that it isn't worth trying to fight them at BVR? Who would have guessed that having radars and missiles with three times the range would be an advantage?
That's the fun of it! Being outmanned and/or outgunned and winning is the most satisfying feeling no matter what you are doing, its like a coffee bean knocking a whole criminal organization down, or 4 people weathering endless hordes of the undead, its the thrill, the adrenaline, and the dopamine when you win.
And it's always more enjoyable with friends, of course.
@@kerfooey7946 but until you win, it's only pain 💀
Don't sperg, man🙈
This video was even more fun than the previous one, it's not about "figuring out"😂
@@kerfooey7946 - I understand that beating the missile by notching is exciting but the amount of ground they need to cover to get within range with their missiles is too much to overcome.
Trying a counter would be fun. F-22 might be overkill, but maybe F-35.
You said eject eject and I was thinking there is nothing left to push the eject button on that blast at the beginning lmao. Can't wait to play some DCS when i get my new computer. I have always loved flying so much and advanced Avaiton is sweet with Jet to play with in such a real sim and your Vids will help me learn when I do. Thanks man for your Vids love them.
"are you OK ?" 😂
4:25 hit me so hard i bitten my lips while eating and then laughing so hard hahaha that editing was so good
When you need 5th gen to fight with 4th gen !! Gotta love it. Also in todays news.. 2 morons in Vipers tried taking on Mig 31 Foxhounds !
My thoughts exactly lol. This is too funny.
You were given the chance of flying the Mig 31, willingly, but you have elected the way of PAIN!!
You should face this with S-500 air cover thrown in for good measure to get the feel of the real deal of what the red team (aggressor) may have on its hands
The S-500 is an anti-ballistic missile system, not an anti-aircraft system. It replaces the A-135, not the S-3/400.
@@VisibilityFoggy the S500 has some missiles that have anti ballistic and even anti satellite roles. But there are other missiles which have a longer range anti aircraft area denial mode
@@VisibilityFoggy No, that'd be A-235. S-series are ALL primarily air defence, much like T-series are ALL tanks.
-Eject! Eject!
-Eject?? *Nothings left!!*
Dang, this Mig-31 has quite the radar, I wonder what it would fair against the F35 or F22
If stealth is not a factor, yes, it probably does
Growling Sidewinder and Longshot enter the AO
Foxhound's announce over the Radio on open frequency. *"Are you ready for pain? Are you ready for suffering!?"*
I love it when you two team up. ;-)
the Pulp Fiction clip was excellent lmao