Also please keep in mind these aircraft are simply mods and the true nature of their capabilities is classified so these models are scenarios are based on publicly available information and therefore may not represent the true capabilities of the aircraft. Hopefully we live in a world where the TRUE real life capabilities of these aircraft is never actually used. Thank you for watching and I'll see you in the next one, Much Love.
I'm not sure if the DCS designers have tweaked things, but I recall your F-22 SEAD video where you obliterated an enemy airfield and planes taking off and the SAM sites didn't even get a sniff on the Raptor, not even when the bay doors were open. Forgetting real-world specs, even in DCS I find it tough to believe that a smaller airborne radar like the Foxhound would carry would outperform the larger SAM systems in defeating the stealth. That's why I think they might have tinkered with the -22 data to make it slightly less OP.
It has been my understanding throughout history the US typically understates its capabilities, and its adversaries tend to overstate theirs. Of course, one should always take the claims as a potential truth because underestimating the enemy would be fatal.
@@GrowlingSidewinder i agree. I would also really enjoy you just talking about the history and capabilities of these planes in general. Maybe a rundown of the mods or something
The brief history of the Foxbat was a really nice touch that goes a long way. I heard the Foxbat has poor maneuverability bc they used plain old steel wings rather than aluminum alloy.
Foxbat (Mig-25) was incredibly heavy. Two cruise missile turbojets, slapped on the big slab of steel (to handle the heat of Mach 3 flight). Of course it does not handle well. Foxhound (Mig-31), although similar, has more efficient turbofans, better radar and avionics. But she is still fat and big.
It was so fast that they had to use steel or titanium because of the build up of heat, they used steel. It was never intended to be a dog fighter, it was designed to shoot down high altitude high speed bombers that were being developed in the US.
One other cool thing the MIG-31 can do it use a data link with other MIG-31's and share data, fire and guide weapons from other aircraft. It was ahead of its time.
All US 4th and 5th Gen fighters do this too. But yea the MiG31 was early with it. It is a bigger factor than most people realize! Having FDL is a HUGE asset!
@@MattH-wg7ou I think Sweden's Viggen had datalink of a sort, the JA37 variant. Not sure if they could display info to each other or just share the ground radar, though. F-14s were early with datalink, too, but probably just between individual planes and the carrier or E-2s.
I don't know if it's a real life tactic, but in modern submarine simulation there is the tactic "reconnaissance by torpedo". If you know there's an enemy sub but can't detect it, you launch a torpedo hoping it, at least, makes the enemy nervous an reveals their position. Seems that's what the Mig did in the second round.
@Omar Khurshid it is very risky indeed and almost surely reveals you are there. It's only used when you know the enemy is there and you believe they have already detected you. So firing the torpedo doesn't really make things much worse
@John Doe "recon by fire" is absolutely what is used in the US Army. Can't speak for other branches, but I'm sure the Marines and Air Force use the same term. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the Navy says the same, but submarines use a different term. The sub branch is pretty dissimilar from the rest of the Navy from what I've heard, and also torpedoes are somewhat uniquely equipped for the task. They have wires attached to them and can be controlled by the sub and given different orders until the wire snaps/is disconnected, so it would make sense to me that it would be uniquely suitied for just firing off and either pretending you have a target, or just sending it into the general area, knowing that the torpedoes own SONAR will pick them up and then can be commanded to attack that target.
@ems0428depends what you are doing. The ANA would “recon by fire” thus alerting tali’s to the assault. They would bug out and the ANA didn’t have to get into a gun fight. Very frustrating.
Trust me. No sub captain is going to shoot a torpedo just to find out if there is an enemy sub in the area. Because it would tell the enemy exactly where their boat is. And give the enemy sub a huge advantage because unless they were lucky enough to shoot in the direction of the enemy sub, forcing it to move, it isn't going to move. If it's close enough the American submarine wouldn't even know it was there until the enemy fired on it from close range. Which is about the biggest "oh shit" situation in submarine warfare. And if they are to far off for a good shot. They know exactly where the other boat is and can quietly sneak up on it. The last thing a submarine wants to do is make noise.
Back in my military days, we used to track the Foxbats at mach 3+ on multiple occasions as they flew over the Mediterranean and North Atlantic oceans. Back then, Sweden would allow Russian overflights of their airspace. Once a contact was just past Sweden and punched to 2.5+ mach, we knew for sure it was a Foxbat. I'm certain they required engine changes when they RTB'd. Foxbat drivers liked to show off from time to time.
@@cineva-wb1pk In a close encounter, yes. But that's exactly my point. It's like the Bismark fighting an Arleigh Burke--I mean sure, the Bismark has enough firepower to vaporize the Burke in one go--if not for the fact that you could smash the Bizzie with cruise missiles before she even knew you were there. You could make the same argument for an F-14 going BVR with an F-22. Ah, but the F-22 is able to nullify the MiG-31s advantage by using stealth and good maneuverability to dodge the missile storm and get in close, to an environment where it is vastly superior. It would be like giving the Bizzie modern stealth and sensors, but leaving her weapons the same. Now she would have a pretty good fighting chance against a modern ship. That's basically what the F-22 did here, and that, combined with the fact that GS is a great pilot, is what gave the F-22 the victory.
Remember stealth is not always invisible on radar it will always gonna detect from a close range, by using strong radar/low frequency radar which make it easier to detect the stealth aircraft, but mostly it will detect on a close range. As you can see in the fight between F22 and Mig 31, first of all people thinks that the F22 raptor will not gonna detect on the Mig 31 radar and as it is an stealth aircraft which make it difficult to detect on radar and since the people thinks the F22 will gonna launch the missile from a long to medium range and make a formation towards Mig 31 and down shot that it, as the RCS of mig 31 which is huge around 15m2 compared to F22 RCS around 0.0001m2. But surprisingly the Mig 31 able to detect the F22 from a medium to close range quickly on radar compare to other 4 gen aircraft. Because it has strong radar which not an AESA radar, but a PESA radar but with greater power aspects on Mig 31 radar (backstop: radar name) compare to other aircraft PESA radar. Mig 31 able to see the F22 at the range of under 60 to 40 miles but can't get a lock, which is surprisingly, that makes it superior to the Mig 31 which is actually a true interceptor aircraft, but when you see the fight between such as the F22 against the 6 group of Euro fighter typhoon, the Euro fighter typhoon has advance AESA CAPTOR radar, but 6 of them can't even see at this range, while the 1 Mig 31 PESA backstop radar able to see in this range. Which means that the Mig 31 is having one of the strongest PESA radar of all the aircraft that can even challenge today modern to mid modern AESA radar. Which is totally an surprisingly standard. Even that Mig 31 able to launch the R37M missile maybe at the range of under 50 to 45 miles towards the F22, as you can see in the video the R37M was tracking perfectly towards the F22 target, but it miss in few meters inches, the missile guidance was good and it was tracking very well in both of the matches, but it miss few inches why because the F22 has superior in stealth features and EW suite that can able to jam the incoming missile or with the superior in stealth, because the missile knows where it is heading towards the target but can't get it as the F22 was superior in stealth and good EW suite that able to dodge the missile easily with an few inches. But if Mig 31 was having an medium range infrared missile with electric optical inertial guidance such as R 27ET which has range of about 60 to 80 miles, which finds the heat signature of the stealth aircraft, The R 27ET is the only long range infrared missile that has the range of about 60 to 80 miles, then the R 27ET would have been, bring a worst situation towards the F22, because stealth cannot hide the heat signature at all, but it can be minimize the heat signature by using limited heat process such as 5 gen engine and stealth capabilities but still it cannot hide the heat signature fully. And another thing the infrared missile doesn't show the RWR and MWR on radar, because it is not an radar guidance at all.
DCS is definetelly an horror sim....the sound of the lock, the sound of the missile....blowing chaff all over the place and pummmmm missile on your nose....awesome
I don’t know when it happened, but somehow I’ve added into my vocabulary “hold this, my dude”, when I want anyone to hold anything, ever. As a consequence of watching these videos
I love how the only thing that can really keep the Raptor busy is the final boss from the 80-90's, which still manages to terrify every other plane in the sky.
That was close enough that I'd love to see a matchup between the F-22 and multiple Mig-31s. Definitely didn't expect how close a couple of those missiles came.
Hey Growling Sidewinder, I love your videos so much, I have been with you since 2019 and you are my favorite youtuber. I am an aviation nerd especially when it comes to aviation in the Air force and Navy. And you have thought me so much facts and so many different strategies of experienced pilots. So much history of the aircraft and the countries that designed them. Thank you so much, I can't wait for you to hit 1 mil!
It would be so interesting to see how these stack up . But if we ever found out the exact range and capability of the MiG 31 vs Western aircraft shit would have hit the fan spectacularly
My guess is that the US has a very good guess as to the exact capabilities of Russian hardware. The Chinese probably have a close understanding of what US hardware can do, they might very well share that with the Russians if it served their purposes.
@@Justanotherconsumer no doubt the intelligence service can speculate in the realm of accuracy. I more mean if it ever plays out in a way that we (the comment section) can see clearly we're deep in the shit
Really surprised at the Foxhound's gameplan here- The F-22's difficulty with a Foxbat or Foxhound- is while they're lobbing missiles- when they get closer- they know things are gonna get tough, so they should go back some distance to the side, and make use of their Mach 2.8 - Mach 3 speed- so AMRAAMS can't realistically hit them at all. Gotta do running passes at the F-22 - AMRAAMS won't have an easy time with a Mach 3 target ... And the F 22 attempting to chase a foxhound or foxbat ...well, i suppose it's a sneaky chase - but it'd be difficult and he could retreat to his S-300 area. And if that S--300's radar is a different wavelength, that's a problem.... Wish we'd see one of these rare Mach 3 aircraft use that speed in a dogfight. Yes, even though for some of them the engines are gonna take a beating- but it's what ensures your invincibility Plus you're fighting a Raptor and your super powerful radar might find him occasionally- but you can't expect him to never be offensive
So the mig 31 can’t dog fight for anything.. it’s only chance at survival period, is to stay beyond visual range.. and it goes absolutely no deeper than that (it’s just that simple)
@@comradeeverclear4063 would have to be very clever to make use of straight line speed, as the MiG can’t turn very quickly while the F-22 can. Against the F-35, which is substantially slower, the MiG has more of a “launch and leave” option, but the chance of maintaining a lock while doing that seems very low indeed.
Those missiles were toooooooooooooooooooooo dam close OMFG, in especial, the last one! Awesome gameplay! It's insane how stealth the Raptor is! The missiles : I'm a joke to you?
The Axehead was not designed for fighter sized manuverable targets, is has great range and speed but it has a far lower max G load than most other air to air missile, for this reason it is not super hard to notch as seen in this video.
@@Davis2920022001 if it was weaker than the F14 radar then how mig 31 able to look F22 at the medium range and able to launch the R37M missile toward it and the missile was tracking very well but it miss few meter from the F22. So it means that the mig 31 radar able to look the F22 on radar but not properly so don't you thing that Mig 31 PESA radar is more stronger and powerful than the Euro fighter typhoon which is AESA radar. Even that see the match between F22 VS 6 Eurofighter typhoon of BVR match and try to compared with the 1 Mig 31 vs F22 BVR match. You will know the result.
Now this would be a very interesting 2 vs 1, perhaps keep the F22 defensive long enough (even with the meh radar locks) to get close enough to die in a fox 2 fight? :D
It would be really cool to see you fly the foxhound or the felon. You primarily play western aircraft, but it would be cool to see you fly Russian vehicles
I heard the rumor that the way EA-18G gets simulation kill against F-22A is actually the maddog missile with D/L guidance from passive detection. Interesting
14:42 HOLY FRAAAKKKK!!! Yeah that missle saw you and said “HOL UP!!!”…..dang man that was a butt pucker ‘fer sure….! Having watched your “death compilation shorts” it is really a good thing this is a simulation.!!! 😅
"Заслон" - Zaslon - The stress is placed on the last vowel. This word means backstop - Troops constituting a cover, defending the flanks, supporting the main operation with their actions, etc.
Oh Man, I've been hanging out for this matchup, thank you! I'd like to see a repeat of it though, with one lone F-22 trying to invade the airspace protected by not one but two to four MIG-31's, one vs four. That would be a much greater challenge for the F-22 I think.
Check this out, who wants to see 1)a dogfight at top of world, ceiling above 45000ft and 2) how ridiculous can a sr-71's dogfight be? Modded with weapons of course. Can GW get a gun kill with blackbird against a blackbird?
First off, I know everything in dcs is based off publicly available info, but I was honestly shocked that the foxhound was able to lock the f22 at all.. that was alot closer fight than many including myself would have anticipated
@@jonathanpfeffer3716 No, but it DOES have a pretty powerful radar, as near to an L-band as you can fight on a fighter We have to remember that the MIG-31 is a huge plane with a huge phased-array radar.
A MSgt I knew from 513 "Flying Nightmares" acquired the Iraqi flag from the tail off of a Foxbat that was buried. It was an amazing chunk of cast steel.
I'd kinda like to see how a C or EX eagle Super Hornet, Viper, and Typhoon would do. Seems like they would be in for quite a rough fight if the F22 is having a "tough time."
The radar is "zaslon", in Croatian it would simply mean "screen", usually used for a "computer screen". I believe it's of a similar meaning in russian, no clue.
GS Try do more history & Information about the jets when you do vids like this i know not all the time but this makes ur channel NO1 DCS Channel... Thanks Man
MIG 31 is one badass machine, even it's built in late 70s still one of the most advanced aircrafts today, threats to many, lol people even compare it to f22, truly ahead of it's time.
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The BF3 dog fights
i'd still like to see "NGAD" vs F-15 ACTIVE.
@@numberyellow NGAD VS F-15 STOL/MTD
Also please keep in mind these aircraft are simply mods and the true nature of their capabilities is classified so these models are scenarios are based on publicly available information and therefore may not represent the true capabilities of the aircraft. Hopefully we live in a world where the TRUE real life capabilities of these aircraft is never actually used. Thank you for watching and I'll see you in the next one, Much Love.
Love the info detailing the specs about the aircraft. You did with the F22 v the F35. Keep it up
I'm not sure if the DCS designers have tweaked things, but I recall your F-22 SEAD video where you obliterated an enemy airfield and planes taking off and the SAM sites didn't even get a sniff on the Raptor, not even when the bay doors were open.
Forgetting real-world specs, even in DCS I find it tough to believe that a smaller airborne radar like the Foxhound would carry would outperform the larger SAM systems in defeating the stealth. That's why I think they might have tinkered with the -22 data to make it slightly less OP.
Next one is to see how the F-35 would fare against the MiG-31...
It has been my understanding throughout history the US typically understates its capabilities, and its adversaries tend to overstate theirs. Of course, one should always take the claims as a potential truth because underestimating the enemy would be fatal.
Even though these aren't 100% accurate, but still, seeing the Raptor have to do some work for victory was nice!!
Please do more of these short stories and plane descriptions before combat! Gives a lot of context into what to expect during the fight.
Sure thing I enjoy making that stuff also. I’ll do it wherever possible.
I want to echo your sentiment. Context is always a fine seasoning to life 👍
@@GrowlingSidewinder i agree. I would also really enjoy you just talking about the history and capabilities of these planes in general. Maybe a rundown of the mods or something
Agreed
^^ what they said
The MiG 31 is simply a brick marching through the atmosphere at Mach 2.8. I love this plane.
Phantom moment
Just imagine a stealth interceptor using MiG-31 tactics
You forgetting the cancer giving radar on the nose of it.
@@KalvyNoodle should be the concept around the future "Mig-41"
For a brick it flew pretty good
The brief history of the Foxbat was a really nice touch that goes a long way.
I heard the Foxbat has poor maneuverability bc they used plain old steel wings rather than aluminum alloy.
Foxbat (Mig-25) was incredibly heavy. Two cruise missile turbojets, slapped on the big slab of steel (to handle the heat of Mach 3 flight). Of course it does not handle well.
Foxhound (Mig-31), although similar, has more efficient turbofans, better radar and avionics. But she is still fat and big.
Over the ocean.... Flat as a ping pong table😕
@Syntex366 Mustard is the reason I signed up to Nebula, I'm really looking forward to the B-2 doc coming up.
It was so fast that they had to use steel or titanium because of the build up of heat, they used steel. It was never intended to be a dog fighter, it was designed to shoot down high altitude high speed bombers that were being developed in the US.
@@syntex3664 yeah I'm subbed to Mustard, Dark Skies and Found and Explained.
One other cool thing the MIG-31 can do it use a data link with other MIG-31's and share data, fire and guide weapons from other aircraft. It was ahead of its time.
Apple tactics before apple was a think
It only conects with mig devices
iMig 31
All US 4th and 5th Gen fighters do this too. But yea the MiG31 was early with it. It is a bigger factor than most people realize! Having FDL is a HUGE asset!
@@MattH-wg7ou I think Sweden's Viggen had datalink of a sort, the JA37 variant. Not sure if they could display info to each other or just share the ground radar, though. F-14s were early with datalink, too, but probably just between individual planes and the carrier or E-2s.
Still can't defeat a f22
@@newlevelgamer5879 f22 not actual combat tested
"I don't know if it sees me." calmly. Then with increasing panic in every syllable "I think it sees me, we're gonna pull up." lmao that was great
I don't know if it's a real life tactic, but in modern submarine simulation there is the tactic "reconnaissance by torpedo". If you know there's an enemy sub but can't detect it, you launch a torpedo hoping it, at least, makes the enemy nervous an reveals their position. Seems that's what the Mig did in the second round.
@Omar Khurshid it is very risky indeed and almost surely reveals you are there. It's only used when you know the enemy is there and you believe they have already detected you. So firing the torpedo doesn't really make things much worse
@John Doe "recon by fire" is absolutely what is used in the US Army. Can't speak for other branches, but I'm sure the Marines and Air Force use the same term. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the Navy says the same, but submarines use a different term. The sub branch is pretty dissimilar from the rest of the Navy from what I've heard, and also torpedoes are somewhat uniquely equipped for the task. They have wires attached to them and can be controlled by the sub and given different orders until the wire snaps/is disconnected, so it would make sense to me that it would be uniquely suitied for just firing off and either pretending you have a target, or just sending it into the general area, knowing that the torpedoes own SONAR will pick them up and then can be commanded to attack that target.
@ems0428depends what you are doing. The ANA would “recon by fire” thus alerting tali’s to the assault. They would bug out and the ANA didn’t have to get into a gun fight. Very frustrating.
Trust me. No sub captain is going to shoot a torpedo just to find out if there is an enemy sub in the area. Because it would tell the enemy exactly where their boat is. And give the enemy sub a huge advantage because unless they were lucky enough to shoot in the direction of the enemy sub, forcing it to move, it isn't going to move. If it's close enough the American submarine wouldn't even know it was there until the enemy fired on it from close range. Which is about the biggest "oh shit" situation in submarine warfare. And if they are to far off for a good shot. They know exactly where the other boat is and can quietly sneak up on it. The last thing a submarine wants to do is make noise.
Back in my military days, we used to track the Foxbats at mach 3+ on multiple occasions as they flew over the Mediterranean and North Atlantic oceans. Back then, Sweden would allow Russian overflights of their airspace. Once a contact was just past Sweden and punched to 2.5+ mach, we knew for sure it was a Foxbat. I'm certain they required engine changes when they RTB'd. Foxbat drivers liked to show off from time to time.
The plane breakdown b4 the match took this Chanel to another level. Keep doing it.
It took an F-22 to kill one of the those things, and it still gave you hell in the process.
@Tylerrr324 yeah I agree. But we probably won’t know anytime soon.
Missiles with better range, but has no chance in a closer encounter with the f-22
@@cineva-wb1pk In a close encounter, yes. But that's exactly my point. It's like the Bismark fighting an Arleigh Burke--I mean sure, the Bismark has enough firepower to vaporize the Burke in one go--if not for the fact that you could smash the Bizzie with cruise missiles before she even knew you were there. You could make the same argument for an F-14 going BVR with an F-22.
Ah, but the F-22 is able to nullify the MiG-31s advantage by using stealth and good maneuverability to dodge the missile storm and get in close, to an environment where it is vastly superior. It would be like giving the Bizzie modern stealth and sensors, but leaving her weapons the same. Now she would have a pretty good fighting chance against a modern ship. That's basically what the F-22 did here, and that, combined with the fact that GS is a great pilot, is what gave the F-22 the victory.
Remember stealth is not always invisible on radar it will always gonna detect from a close range, by using strong radar/low frequency radar which make it easier to detect the stealth aircraft, but mostly it will detect on a close range. As you can see in the fight between F22 and Mig 31, first of all people thinks that the F22 raptor will not gonna detect on the Mig 31 radar and as it is an stealth aircraft which make it difficult to detect on radar and since the people thinks the F22 will gonna launch the missile from a long to medium range and make a formation towards Mig 31 and down shot that it, as the RCS of mig 31 which is huge around 15m2 compared to F22 RCS around 0.0001m2. But surprisingly the Mig 31 able to detect the F22 from a medium to close range quickly on radar compare to other 4 gen aircraft. Because it has strong radar which not an AESA radar, but a PESA radar but with greater power aspects on Mig 31 radar (backstop: radar name) compare to other aircraft PESA radar. Mig 31 able to see the F22 at the range of under 60 to 40 miles but can't get a lock, which is surprisingly, that makes it superior to the Mig 31 which is actually a true interceptor aircraft, but when you see the fight between such as the F22 against the 6 group of Euro fighter typhoon, the Euro fighter typhoon has advance AESA CAPTOR radar, but 6 of them can't even see at this range, while the 1 Mig 31 PESA backstop radar able to see in this range. Which means that the Mig 31 is having one of the strongest PESA radar of all the aircraft that can even challenge today modern to mid modern AESA radar. Which is totally an surprisingly standard.
Even that Mig 31 able to launch the R37M missile maybe at the range of under 50 to 45 miles towards the F22, as you can see in the video the R37M was tracking perfectly towards the F22 target, but it miss in few meters inches, the missile guidance was good and it was tracking very well in both of the matches, but it miss few inches why because the F22 has superior in stealth features and EW suite that can able to jam the incoming missile or with the superior in stealth, because the missile knows where it is heading towards the target but can't get it as the F22 was superior in stealth and good EW suite that able to dodge the missile easily with an few inches.
But if Mig 31 was having an medium range infrared missile with electric optical inertial guidance such as R 27ET which has range of about 60 to 80 miles, which finds the heat signature of the stealth aircraft, The R 27ET is the only long range infrared missile that has the range of about 60 to 80 miles, then the R 27ET would have been, bring a worst situation towards the F22, because stealth cannot hide the heat signature at all, but it can be minimize the heat signature by using limited heat process such as 5 gen engine and stealth capabilities but still it cannot hide the heat signature fully. And another thing the infrared missile doesn't show the RWR and MWR on radar, because it is not an radar guidance at all.
It took one F15 with AIM-152s to kill four Mig 31s in GS's previous videos.
I am genuinely impressed with how the mug-31 was able to see you for so long on radar, let alone fire a missile from such a long distance.
DCS is definetelly an horror sim....the sound of the lock, the sound of the missile....blowing chaff all over the place and pummmmm missile on your nose....awesome
I don’t know when it happened, but somehow I’ve added into my vocabulary “hold this, my dude”, when I want anyone to hold anything, ever. As a consequence of watching these videos
I love how the only thing that can really keep the Raptor busy is the final boss from the 80-90's, which still manages to terrify every other plane in the sky.
That was close enough that I'd love to see a matchup between the F-22 and multiple Mig-31s. Definitely didn't expect how close a couple of those missiles came.
You can thank the stealth of the F-22 for that
YESSS! Love the brief with actual footage at the beginning. Feels more detailed and like a documentary, in a good way. Keep it up!
Very interesting battle. Loved the breakdown of the plane at the beginning. Some great close calls as well against his shots at you
Love the explanation before it starts😊
Thanks GS, always watching and enjoying
Hey Growling Sidewinder, I love your videos so much, I have been with you since 2019 and you are my favorite youtuber. I am an aviation nerd especially when it comes to aviation in the Air force and Navy. And you have thought me so much facts and so many different strategies of experienced pilots. So much history of the aircraft and the countries that designed them. Thank you so much, I can't wait for you to hit 1 mil!
It would be so interesting to see how these stack up . But if we ever found out the exact range and capability of the MiG 31 vs Western aircraft shit would have hit the fan spectacularly
There’s stories about foxhounds intercepting Sr-71’s should check em out
My guess is that the US has a very good guess as to the exact capabilities of Russian hardware.
The Chinese probably have a close understanding of what US hardware can do, they might very well share that with the Russians if it served their purposes.
@@Justanotherconsumer no doubt the intelligence service can speculate in the realm of accuracy. I more mean if it ever plays out in a way that we (the comment section) can see clearly we're deep in the shit
I really like the back story on the aircraft before action begins, good job!
"Uhhh, we're gonna pull up!" Good decision lol.
Really surprised at the Foxhound's gameplan here-
The F-22's difficulty with a Foxbat or Foxhound- is while they're lobbing missiles- when they get closer- they know things are gonna get tough, so they should go back some distance to the side, and make use of their Mach 2.8 - Mach 3 speed- so AMRAAMS can't realistically hit them at all.
Gotta do running passes at the F-22 - AMRAAMS won't have an easy time with a Mach 3 target ...
And the F 22 attempting to chase a foxhound or foxbat ...well, i suppose it's a sneaky chase - but it'd be difficult and he could retreat to his S-300 area.
And if that S--300's radar is a different wavelength, that's a problem....
Wish we'd see one of these rare Mach 3 aircraft use that speed in a dogfight. Yes, even though for some of them the engines are gonna take a beating- but it's what ensures your invincibility
Plus you're fighting a Raptor and your super powerful radar might find him occasionally- but you can't expect him to never be offensive
You can't dogfight at mach 3 🤣 your turn radius would be the size of Texas
@@popiwatv OC didn't mean at a constant pace of Mach 3, just to utilize the speed, given a proper scenario 🙄
So the mig 31 can’t dog fight for anything..
it’s only chance at survival period, is to stay beyond visual range.. and it goes absolutely no deeper than that (it’s just that simple)
@@comradeeverclear4063 would have to be very clever to make use of straight line speed, as the MiG can’t turn very quickly while the F-22 can.
Against the F-35, which is substantially slower, the MiG has more of a “launch and leave” option, but the chance of maintaining a lock while doing that seems very low indeed.
No matter how hard you Soviet simps try to defend this jet the F-22 wins no questions asked
Growling sidewinder should fly the Mig 31 against the F22 and try to workout how to deal with it.
love the new format! it is so cool to know a little history before the fight!
Yo those near misses were insane! And the fox3 with the sun in the background was dope!
Those missiles were toooooooooooooooooooooo dam close OMFG, in especial, the last one! Awesome gameplay! It's insane how stealth the Raptor is! The missiles : I'm a joke to you?
The Axehead was not designed for fighter sized manuverable targets, is has great range and speed but it has a far lower max G load than most other air to air missile, for this reason it is not super hard to notch as seen in this video.
Did Axehead replace the AA-9 'Amos' on the MiG-31..?
Sort of. You never see a MIG-31 flying with AA-9 anymore but they still don’t have many R-37Ms
Correction, you don’t see MIG-31 flying combat missions with AA-9 anymore.
The Mig-31 putting up a challenge to the F-22 was quite a surprise. A pleasant one though.
Now we need a BVR fight between the Raptor and the Tomcat.
He did one on the f14 vs mig25 or 31.... It's basically the same thing honestly. Plus the f14 radar is weaker than the Mig31 radar.
GS just killed 4 Mig 31s with one F15 with AIM-152s.
@@jayvee8502 that missile is not real. If it was aim 120d the F15 would have been dead or destroyed by the 4 or 2 Mig 31.
@@Davis2920022001 if it was weaker than the F14 radar then how mig 31 able to look F22 at the medium range and able to launch the R37M missile toward it and the missile was tracking very well but it miss few meter from the F22. So it means that the mig 31 radar able to look the F22 on radar but not properly so don't you thing that Mig 31 PESA radar is more stronger and powerful than the Euro fighter typhoon which is AESA radar. Even that see the match between F22 VS 6 Eurofighter typhoon of BVR match and try to compared with the 1 Mig 31 vs F22 BVR match. You will know the result.
@@heatblast876 read what he wrote again.😂
Now this would be a very interesting 2 vs 1, perhaps keep the F22 defensive long enough (even with the meh radar locks) to get close enough to die in a fox 2 fight? :D
Ooooo those were some spicy missle misses for sure!
It would be really cool to see you fly the foxhound or the felon. You primarily play western aircraft, but it would be cool to see you fly Russian vehicles
Out of curiosity, it would be interesting to see a MiG-31 vs. a J-20 BVR fight.
Mig 31s are basically the snipers in aircrafts. Hit and run and keep enemies guesing where the shot came from.
Would love to see the same fight but in a F-35. It would be nice if you could do more F-35 stuff (especially BVR).
No way R37 it's not a joke bro,.that's a hypersonic missile you can't even see that coming 😄
but it never hits, so
I heard the rumor that the way EA-18G gets simulation kill against F-22A is actually the maddog missile with D/L guidance from passive detection. Interesting
I've been waiting for this! Thanks Growling
I love the lil blurb at the start of the vid, makes me feel like I'm right in the chair with you😎💪
I dig the snippet of documentary there before the flight nice touch
14:42 HOLY FRAAAKKKK!!! Yeah that missle saw you and said “HOL UP!!!”…..dang man that was a butt pucker ‘fer sure….! Having watched your “death compilation shorts” it is really a good thing this is a simulation.!!! 😅
Literally something I was googling the other day out of curiosity. Interesting watch!
Epitome of a boom and zoom aircraft. If you get into a dogfight in a foxhound you've already lost.
Prime example of what stealth does
Come on dude we want to see you in the Foxhound once
Love these vids - we need a playlist of all your best/most dramatic dogfights
"Заслон" - Zaslon - The stress is placed on the last vowel.
This word means backstop - Troops constituting a cover, defending the flanks, supporting the main operation with their actions, etc.
I've been waiting months for this. Let's goooo!
in about 48 hours I get my flight equipment for DCS, can't wait.
Oh Man, I've been hanging out for this matchup, thank you!
I'd like to see a repeat of it though, with one lone F-22 trying to invade the airspace protected by not one but two to four MIG-31's, one vs four. That would be a much greater challenge for the F-22 I think.
Thank you for all your research work on all these aircraft you profile, makes your channel that much better, just awesome brother👍
Really enjoy the short historical intros in your videos
Would be interesting to see how F-22/35 would do against Meteor...
Sphincter factor five on that missile that went under. Major pucker.
I like how you added some back ground on the Mig-31
i love it how he laughed when the mig-31 launched his first missle...😂
10:31
Man- he was trying REAL HARD to shake it 😅 ...was throwing everything he had at it but the kitchen sink.
He gets an "A" for the effort.
6:55 that's an oh shit moment right there
Please make MORE BVR missions vs/or flying the mighty MIG 31. It's all over the media while this aircraft carries the KINZHAL hypersonic missile
LOL! After the first few days of combat, there would no MIG-31 aircraft left.
Hey. There wouldn't even be any MIG-31 in combat in the first place since Russia can't even maintain them. 😂
In the first few days all aircraft carriers will be sunk, all airbases will be destroyed, all satellites will be destroyed
this comments aged like very fine wine, as 8 f-16s destroyed by kinzhal launched from mig31
@@thatoneguyinthemiddle1910 Against American pilots that is. The problem is that we don't rent out our pilots.
@@billymania11 that's fair
Check this out, who wants to see 1)a dogfight at top of world, ceiling above 45000ft and 2) how ridiculous can a sr-71's dogfight be? Modded with weapons of course. Can GW get a gun kill with blackbird against a blackbird?
Btw I meant minimum floor 45000ft and above
Really dig the history lesson prior to the video. Very cool!
At last, GS took the revenge of being smoked in Mig-31 vs F-14 and F-16s' videos.
I like what you are doing with your vidz lately. The info beforehand.
This fight could have been more difficult if there was one more mig-31.
First off, I know everything in dcs is based off publicly available info, but I was honestly shocked that the foxhound was able to lock the f22 at all.. that was alot closer fight than many including myself would have anticipated
@@DIREWOLFx75 actually because it sees the target from multiple angles it cant really hide whatever hapens
@@DIREWOLFx75 it definitely limits the ability to disappear into a notch significantly
@@DIREWOLFx75 What would “anti-stealth capabilities” even be? Not like it has an L band radar above it like an AWACS, lol.
@@jonathanpfeffer3716 No, but it DOES have a pretty powerful radar, as near to an L-band as you can fight on a fighter
We have to remember that the MIG-31 is a huge plane with a huge phased-array radar.
A MSgt I knew from 513 "Flying Nightmares" acquired the Iraqi flag from the tail off of a Foxbat that was buried. It was an amazing chunk of cast steel.
Good Fight! That near miss was fantastic, I nearly choked laughing.👏👏👏
Love the plane descriptions and possible specs
"Hold my AMRAAM" Truly unstoppable
I'd kinda like to see how a C or EX eagle Super Hornet, Viper, and Typhoon would do. Seems like they would be in for quite a rough fight if the F22 is having a "tough time."
hornet isnt even in the same league as the rest of the aircraft mentioned lol
These high altitude MiGs were used effectively by loitering at a sufficient distance and altitude to be essentially undetectable.
The radar is "zaslon", in Croatian it would simply mean "screen", usually used for a "computer screen". I believe it's of a similar meaning in russian, no clue.
Love the pre-mission airframe history briefs!!
DCS' Scenery looks like one of those imac wallpapers.
Missile range hampers the F-22. Nice video.
Nice to know that the F-22 can kick the Mig-31's rear.
Butt pucker moment at 14:50... dang that was super close.
Poor old Bill shouldn't have pulled into the driveway when he did. We're gonna miss him!!😛😛
This was a blast! (Pardon the…) Anyway, I’m calling it now. We need GS vs the Tic Tac!
F-22 videos make my day better.
9:00, what a fine lil' "BLOP!"
Very spicy missile notches in this one, looked really cool.
GS Try do more history & Information about the jets when you do vids like this i know not all the time but this makes ur channel NO1 DCS Channel... Thanks Man
would be interesting to see this from the migs perspective
It's amazing that the MiG-31 could detect, let alone lock, the F-22 before the Raptor could track that behemoth.
The MiG-31 radar works at 400 km, there is nothing to be surprised at.
F-35 VS MIG 31 PLEASE!!
MIG 31 is one badass machine, even it's built in late 70s still one of the most advanced aircrafts today, threats to many, lol people even compare it to f22, truly ahead of it's time.
It's pretty surprising that Foxhound could pick you from such far distance
Time for an F-35 vs the Mig-31 🙃
Mig 21 vs mig 31 dogfight for the bois
F-35A and Mig-31 long range duel would be an interesting video too.
The Mig-31 may be a God in BVR, but nothing beats the Raptor
Right it’s almost impossible to hit something you can’t see
The only thing that would be even worse for the MiG-31 is the F-35 with Meteors or JATM's.
Or a F-22, F-35 joint mission.
13:24 I guess the missile *doesn't* know where it is THIS time.
I enjoyed that intro bro.
I love the history lesson before the fight.
Oh..I see said the Blind Man... LOVE IT!!
F-22 killing anything under any circumstance is always intresting.
F-22 stealth clearly keeping those missile from smacking him in the face
14:31 the pucker factor!!