The Hand You're Dealt | P-47D Thunderbolt Vs Bf109 K4 Dogfight | Digital Combat Simulator DCS WWII

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  • Опубликовано: 18 дек 2024

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  • @GrowlingSidewinder
    @GrowlingSidewinder  День назад +12

    Check out the Merch Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/
    Thank you guys for watching and if you have any ideas for future videos please put them in the comment section below and they might just end up in the pipeline, thanks again, much Love.

    • @PatriotPlus179
      @PatriotPlus179 День назад

      Several people have mentioned the plot of the movie, "The Final Countdown." If you haven't seen it, once you do, you will understand why we want this fulfilled. Send the F-14A Tomcat into Dec 5, 1941 please. Thank you GS.

    • @olligesd9343
      @olligesd9343 День назад

      F-5 vs. Viggen

    • @halodude4481
      @halodude4481 День назад

      Can perhaps we get an A-4 vs ww2 plane fight? haven't seen the A-4 in a while.

    • @JohnDoe-vf2es
      @JohnDoe-vf2es День назад

      Can you do a P-38 vs Mosquito dogfight, please!?

    • @tsechejak7598
      @tsechejak7598 День назад

      I love the 47 bubble top, looks like a jalapeno!

  • @DIVeltro
    @DIVeltro День назад +118

    Two words for the Jug: Raw Power. The jug doesn't fly, it just tells the air to get out of its way.

    • @VikingTeddy
      @VikingTeddy 23 часа назад

      Like the F4 of its day! Except it has some aerodynamics.

  • @dixieduffy7
    @dixieduffy7 День назад +118

    "Where is he getting all this energy?"
    My brother, that plane isn't big for aesthetics. It got a huge PW-2800 and a giant(super?) turbo charger in it. It's held back by the prop more than anything.

    • @olligesd9343
      @olligesd9343 День назад +4

      I was going to reply with "power". 😄

    • @Adam-i5h8f
      @Adam-i5h8f День назад +6

      Also was un matched in the dive no plane could follow it in the dive without meeting the ground

    • @fantabuloussnuffaluffagus
      @fantabuloussnuffaluffagus День назад +14

      The R-2800, as installed in the P-47 was both turbo and mechanically supercharged, with the turbo supercharger in the aft fuselage feeding a mechanically driven centrifugal supercharger mounted to the back of the engine.

    • @minuteman3
      @minuteman3 День назад +14

      In late 44 the "paddle prop" solved many of the Jugs issues. There is a reason the Jug shot down more planes than the 51.

    • @superdupergrover9857
      @superdupergrover9857 День назад +12

      People forget that, while sure, it is heavy, it isn't as heavy as it looks. Due to its sophisticated turbocharger system, It's half air ducts. IT'S NOT FAT, IT'S LUNG VOLUME!!!

  • @Ifoughtpiranhas
    @Ifoughtpiranhas День назад +48

    Imagine coming out of your cottage on a nice and sunny Spring day to tend to your garden and dairy cow and then having a bunch of .50 cal and 20mm shell casings come raining down on you.

    • @wahtx7717
      @wahtx7717 23 часа назад

      It's actually 30mm in this case

  • @murph3194
    @murph3194 День назад +8

    Shotgun is fearless. He reverses the turn to go into a slight negative G maneuver back into the reverse. 4:48 lol Don't know if that was intentional or not but he is slippery for sure. Great vid as usual. Well done sir.

  • @cavemanbum
    @cavemanbum День назад +8

    3:21 - The Pratt & Whitney R-2800 Double Wasp 2600-horsepower engine is where he's getting that energy from. LOL

  • @busterdee8228
    @busterdee8228 День назад +14

    Shotgun is smooth. Kudos to you for having him.

  • @manny2ndamendment246
    @manny2ndamendment246 День назад +38

    P-38 vs everything

  • @Fuel_Gage
    @Fuel_Gage День назад +34

    Loving the WW2-based videos!

  • @jayteti4562
    @jayteti4562 День назад +7

    If you find yourself in a fair fight, then you came unprepared. - USMC

  • @stormhawk31
    @stormhawk31 День назад +5

    You DEFINITELY need to do more against Shotgun. It's awesome to see you ACTUALLY challenged, fighting someone who is at least your equal.
    And Shotgun has EXCELLENT throttle management in that plane.

  • @BlastGT1
    @BlastGT1 День назад +30

    Once again, kudos to Shotgun, he is UNREAL.

  • @GaryOKeeBlues
    @GaryOKeeBlues День назад +8

    "If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck."
    - a bunch of different people

  • @TMHerron
    @TMHerron День назад +2

    I do love watching the 109 fight.

  • @mahmoudyassen8444
    @mahmoudyassen8444 День назад +8

    The bf-109 looks astonishing in those colours

    • @jasonanalco542
      @jasonanalco542 День назад +2

      Jagdgeschwader JG squadron leaders usually painted the noses this way. It made them easier to identify.

  • @zTheBigFishz
    @zTheBigFishz День назад +75

    The Bolt will outperform most WW2 fighters above 15k feet both turning and speed. With that big turbo charger it was meant as a high altitude fighter.

    • @Grommok
      @Grommok День назад +2

      Correct.

    • @Leperboy
      @Leperboy День назад +6

      not the bf109 especially at higher altitudes the 109 can turn so much sharper

    • @Asspiss100
      @Asspiss100 День назад +1

      Most don't understand how big it was..the airframe was constructed around what is essentially a "small" locomotive turbo and it's piping. it had to be located behind the pilot because it was too big to fit up front

    • @TheSuperhomosapien
      @TheSuperhomosapien День назад +6

      It was meant to be a bomber escort. Then when the P-51 came along it found new life as a fighter bomber and CAS. Ironically enough, the P-51 was meant for CAS, but was too fragile to take ground fire and due to its range and dogfighting capabilities it became a good bomber escort. while the Jug, who could absorb all types of damage, filled the role that the P-51 was meant to fill.

    • @Grommok
      @Grommok День назад +1

      @@TheSuperhomosapien yes, to escort the Heavy Bombers that flew +15,000 feet.

  • @Micha-qv5uf
    @Micha-qv5uf День назад +2

    Man the Bf 109 just looks bad ass evil somehow.

  • @donakahorse
    @donakahorse День назад +20

    The P 47 had nearly 4k aerial victories in WW2, you can't do that with a plane incapable of moving. The pilots loved it.

    • @AlexanderÖberg-j9n
      @AlexanderÖberg-j9n День назад +2

      It’s not about aerial victories it’s about win to loss ratio. Those numbers are probably pretty skewed if you think about. A plane that is mass produced or made in large numbers will always have a high winning rate.

    • @TheVoosters
      @TheVoosters День назад +4

      The 109 was a better fighter. 15k + kills

    • @YourBestFriendforToday
      @YourBestFriendforToday День назад +5

      @@TheVoostersOnly because of the Russians did the number get that high.

    • @Micha-qv5uf
      @Micha-qv5uf День назад

      @@YourBestFriendforToday Russia of 1943 same Russia in 2024

    • @christx3326
      @christx3326 День назад +1

      ​@@YourBestFriendforTodayuh huh, explain Hans Joachim Marseilles for starters

  • @TheSuperhomosapien
    @TheSuperhomosapien День назад +4

    I saw that intro and started thinking "You are grossly underestimating the P-47".

  • @noodlenoggin70
    @noodlenoggin70 День назад +4

    There's a great book, "Thunderbolt" by Robert Johnson, detailing his experience becoming an Ace in the P47, alongside Francis Gabreski in the 56th Fighter Group in Europe. Some things that stick out from this video -- he always boasted about the P47's "zoom climb," where they'd trade speed for short-term climb, and noted that in the later models when they were fitted with paddle-blade propellers the "zoom" never stopped and they could just hang on the motor and CLIMB. Also many call-outs to the Bf109's wing slats that would creep out in super-slow/super-tight turns and throw the nose off. I'm not sure if DCS has all that in their models...

    • @5co756
      @5co756 День назад

      You could saw them moving out , but does'nt looked like it changed something . These wing slats helped a lot , that's why the 109 only used the flaps for landing/starting . They were hand cranked .

  • @loganproksch9305
    @loganproksch9305 День назад +2

    I could watch hours of you guys going at in different planes. Top marks to the both of you.

  • @phil_nicholls
    @phil_nicholls День назад +2

    We had an old boy ex P47 pilot at our flying club many years ago. He had been given his choice of aircraft - when asked why he chose the P47, he said it had more armour plating around the pilot than any other type!

  • @narce160th
    @narce160th День назад +3

    "I don't know where he's getting this energy from" Saying this just after shotty nosed dived from the heavens

  • @Ambaryerno
    @Ambaryerno День назад +5

    The P-47 has fairly decent energy retention, so as long as he's not being hamfisted with the stick he should be able to hold on to his airspeed.

  • @97BuckeyeGuy
    @97BuckeyeGuy 23 часа назад

    These WWII dog fights are just glorious. I love when you're down on the ground fighting. It reminds me of the difference between watching NASCAR vs Formula One racing.

  • @dennisa7784
    @dennisa7784 День назад +10

    People in the comments are so focused on fights being fair because they fanboy over certain countries or planes and when they see their plane get whacked they take it personally so they have to defend the loss by saying their favorite plane was disadvantaged in this "test" and its still the best plane. And therefore their choice of prefering it is valid

  • @nevervne
    @nevervne 23 часа назад +1

    WW2 dogfighting is way more fun to watch than the jet stuff 😁

  • @paganarh
    @paganarh День назад +6

    shotgun is such a pro

  • @charles_wipman
    @charles_wipman День назад +4

    That was a well greased hog... nice dogfights.

  • @TheSharpeful
    @TheSharpeful День назад +1

    That whistling sound on the 109 engine is so sexy.

  • @nath-hh2ff
    @nath-hh2ff День назад +3

    Id like to see 109 vs Dora and 51 vs Spit.

  • @peterdowney3792
    @peterdowney3792 День назад +3

    Please please please more hurricane. That was the most enjoyable video in months. Also, there's a nasty tank buster version of the hurricane with 40mm cannon - that would also be extremely, extremely cool

    • @firebald2915
      @firebald2915 23 часа назад

      The original tank buster flying nearly ground level. The two cannons caused the Hurricane to nose dive... Brave pilots.

  • @Spikeydelic
    @Spikeydelic День назад +1

    I love your 109 videos man !! they are so good !

  • @Easy-Eight
    @Easy-Eight День назад +2

    Like to see you take the "BF" against a Corsair.

  • @kellyginter3393
    @kellyginter3393 День назад +9

    I think I've watched all the A10 mission videos. Can you make some more?

  • @GripFast1067
    @GripFast1067 День назад +2

    The energy is coming from Red Bull..."It Gives You Wiings"!!!

  • @Acekhan201
    @Acekhan201 День назад

    That P47 doing it's best 5th gen impersonation out there, damn!

  • @esr243
    @esr243 День назад

    It’s like a WWII ballet - great cinematography - and so much more interesting with both sides players

  • @RadestpickleETR
    @RadestpickleETR День назад +2

    I was scrounging for some p-47. You arrived right on time

  • @Notreallyoverit
    @Notreallyoverit День назад +2

    Try fighting a FW-190A with a Spitfire V and then a IX.

  • @the_giefster
    @the_giefster День назад

    That ending felt very personal. Haha great job to you and Shotgun!

  • @jamesbromstead4949
    @jamesbromstead4949 День назад

    To quote Desert Brutality: "We considered Fair, and decided against it."

  • @warhawk4494
    @warhawk4494 День назад +42

    Id like the see this dogfight but above 20,000ft. Up there and higher the P-47 could out turn a FW-190.

    • @Adam-i5h8f
      @Adam-i5h8f День назад

      Yes! The P47 was designed to fight in the cons. I’ve even seen sources that say the P47 even outperforms the p51 up there.

    • @Liisi-t3n
      @Liisi-t3n День назад

      he has no idea how WW2 was fought in air, he is just foolish youtuber.

    • @obiwankenobi1003
      @obiwankenobi1003 День назад +13

      @@Liisi-t3n Willing to wager he is more informed on the subject then you are my guy.

    • @Liberty_or_Ded
      @Liberty_or_Ded День назад

      @@Liisi-t3n aww, you a wumao mad that he always shits on your nation's Temu jets?

    • @bobhydro913
      @bobhydro913 День назад

      ​@@Liisi-t3nnerd

  • @bembrin
    @bembrin День назад +1

    It looks like Shotgun is putting in a notch of flaps at times. I wonder what his thought process is there. I feel like it might help in the 1-circle sometimes but it seemed like he was in a 2-circle fight when I noticed it. Not sure I would have thought of that.

  • @MTEditz
    @MTEditz День назад

    1:14 that whistle sound from the p47 is just 😩

  • @UzairW
    @UzairW День назад

    Whether its in WW2 warbirds or modern jets, Shotgun is an absolute beast as an opponent and I hope we continue to have more of him on here! Guns-only dogfights are by far the most interesting content so thank you GS for these recent WW2 fight videos, and also the amazing fast pointy jets gunfights you have done in recent years.

  • @Cool_guy-i1u
    @Cool_guy-i1u День назад +1

    Mig-21 vs F-14
    It would be like “what if the F-14 was put into service a little faster”
    (Just remembered there was some videos GS where he did do that)

  • @Kilo_1-1
    @Kilo_1-1 День назад

    I think you should do more of these, it's fun to watch you and the guys push their planes and skills to the limit to win the dogfight. I agree, fights aren't fair ever. The whole point of every nation is to build the best plane.

  • @gudgengrebe
    @gudgengrebe День назад +1

    That was great. Shotgun is amazing.

  • @Sewad_J
    @Sewad_J День назад +1

    just want you to know. I look forward to your videos everyday!

  • @ddewcifer
    @ddewcifer День назад

    Your videos with Shotgun are my favorite, he's insane dude.

  • @fdlman93092
    @fdlman93092 День назад

    GS: "Shotgun is flying the P-47... why do I hear boss music?"

  • @cgilleybsw
    @cgilleybsw День назад +2

    Suggestion - lets see the alternate view of your opponent. I'd love to know what shotgun is trying to do.

  • @erloriel
    @erloriel День назад +19

    This guy churns out good videos, like an MK 108 churns out overly explosive shells...

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  День назад +8

      U guys keep watching I’ll keep pumping them out. Appreciate you guys much love.

  • @GioMarron
    @GioMarron День назад

    In my humble view, it’s the fact that most fights are unfair that make the similar fighter battles so legendary
    It’s why people love the X Wing and TIE Fighter battles: imagine one just came in and steamrolled the other? They’d be shite but the X Wimg and TIE Fighter battles are the ME-109 v Spitfires of the movie world and it’s what makes those battles such good viewing on TV years after the events

  • @Rufus6540
    @Rufus6540 День назад

    My brother was a Viper pilot and said they had absolutely no interest in making fights fair. He basically wanted fights to be as close to clubbing baby seals as he could get.

  • @donaldwrightson
    @donaldwrightson День назад

    As the Mighty Jingles says: "Fair fights are for suckers." Words to live by!!!!

  • @modillo1986
    @modillo1986 День назад

    This was a fight more often than not. This is also why the p51 became the premier fighter of WW2. Army had the mustang and the navy/marines had the Corsair.
    I'd love to see you and shotgun go toe to toe in the mustang vs Corsair. That'd be interesting

  • @elmacko4709
    @elmacko4709 День назад

    the jug is actually one of my favorite ww2 plane period XD

  • @mikefoster6018
    @mikefoster6018 День назад

    I love the Thunderbolt. It looks like a cigar and, hell, it fights like one. A hot smokin' beast! Definitely an airplane optimised for high altitude fighting and boomin' and zoomin', not turnin' and burnin'.

  • @nikospitr
    @nikospitr День назад

    i love P-47, i d love to see more close-ups of this wonderful plane

  • @badhabits77
    @badhabits77 День назад

    Loving these WWII fights! For a low level North Africa fight, an (early) FW-190A4 / BF109F vs P-40E (Kittyhawk Mk1A) would be fantastic.

  • @theandf
    @theandf День назад

    Great fight, and totally agreed about asymmetrical fights. It makes the unexpected victory by the underdog (if it happens) even sweeter.

  • @Rhinozherous
    @Rhinozherous День назад

    The "unfair" fights are the more interesting in my opinion. As you say, when you are able to squeeze all out of your aircraft and maybe have some luck too, you also can win an "unfair" fight.

  • @duaneedwards5439
    @duaneedwards5439 День назад

    Great video! Love the WWII action!

  • @HandFromCoffin
    @HandFromCoffin День назад

    This guy flies between the rounds.. drives me nuts and I'm just watching the video.

  • @mothafraker
    @mothafraker День назад

    Jesus! This kid's good!
    - Cmdr Mike 'Viper' Metcalf

  • @grizzly4736
    @grizzly4736 День назад +1

    Yeah, you don't turn fight in a Jug. You boom-n-zoom, and never let your dive go below your enemy. Dive in, set up your shot, hit or miss you dive away and extend then set up another pass. At least that is what always worked for me using planes like the Jug and Lightning in Aces High 2.

    • @towarzyszbeagle6866
      @towarzyszbeagle6866 День назад

      100% this, boom, zoom, extend repeat.
      The weight works for you using this tactic because you're normally extending away at a speed the target can't match.

  • @SHARPSPEED
    @SHARPSPEED День назад

    Shotgun is like this channel's equivalent of switching to Legendary difficulty.

  • @hillbillyreefer8996
    @hillbillyreefer8996 День назад

    Absolutely love the WW2 series...would love seeing south pacific battles ..when considering all the carriers involved in beyond visual battles it seems rich with scenarios...

  • @tedmckenzie4814
    @tedmckenzie4814 День назад +1

    Let's get GS to 1mil

  • @jasonanalco542
    @jasonanalco542 День назад

    Germany learned the hard way to respect the Jug. Especially the Paddle prop version

  • @jaggar28
    @jaggar28 День назад

    Shotguns flying style reminds me of a cowboy 🤣

  • @Exile-exe
    @Exile-exe День назад

    Life ain’t fair, and neither is war.
    This is not a tournament.

  • @Adam-i5h8f
    @Adam-i5h8f День назад

    The P47 has become my new favorite fighter

  • @farkinarkin5099
    @farkinarkin5099 День назад

    9:16 What a brilliant move by the Jug-naut (Shotgun?)

  • @lwrncschmchr
    @lwrncschmchr День назад

    6:49 GS pissing on Shotgun's grave.

  • @adbramsay
    @adbramsay День назад

    The P-47D was built around it's massive Pratt & Whitney R2800 2000hp engine wedded to a huge 13' 4 bladed Curtiss "paddle" prop. Remember that the P-47D also had WEP an overboost function that dumped a water methanol mix into the motor to help the overboosted engine. I believe in WEP the R2800 was capable of almost 2300hp

  • @brealistic3542
    @brealistic3542 День назад

    The American ace Zemki used the 47 and had tricks he used to fight 109s. He used the 47s outstanding roll to make it appear he was actually out turning 109s. F 4 pilots fighting Mig 21s used the same trick.

  • @codyconger2529
    @codyconger2529 День назад

    Two videos in one day! Hell ya my dude🤙

  • @A_Lazy_Bori
    @A_Lazy_Bori День назад

    he thought you forgot... we never forget 🤣🤣

  • @BlindIo42
    @BlindIo42 День назад

    "If you're in a fair fight, you aren't cheating enough."

  • @danandbaggyshow
    @danandbaggyshow День назад +1

    I love the ww2 stuff

  • @ret7army
    @ret7army День назад +1

    fairness? No, of course not. Only question is whether or not we dealing with 1941-42, 43 or 44 or 45 era aircraft.
    Nevertheless the P47s of the 56 Fighter Group in particular did great damage to the 109s, 190s, and 110s of the Luftwaffe. While the P51s coming into their own in late 44 and 45 did their share, it was the P47s that took it on the chin and gave back even greater than they took in the early years.

  • @AkiUwUx3
    @AkiUwUx3 День назад

    The "It's not fair" excuse in a realistic Combat Simulator is like the one kid who sucks at the game calling the other team hackers.
    Considering how the P-51 and P-47 both had to face off against Me-262's more than once, of course it wasn't a fair fight, but it happened.

  • @Frydee123
    @Frydee123 День назад +1

    I have a video idea. Do a fighter generations dogfight, USA vs Russia. Pick a random fighter, starting with WWII props, and go up one generation every round until you reach 5th gen

  • @Ankhobo
    @Ankhobo День назад

    I'm sure if Shotgun had actually flown in WWII, his name would be found in the Geneva list of suggestions

  • @OH-vb6ww
    @OH-vb6ww День назад

    If you find yourself in a fair fight, somebody didn’t plan appropriately.

  • @GimmeDaBacon
    @GimmeDaBacon День назад +1

    I’d love to see the super tucano dogfight a p51

  • @brandonbennett9220
    @brandonbennett9220 День назад +1

    Great fights

  • @StudSupreme
    @StudSupreme День назад

    From what I understand, the P-47 was successful because of an incredibly powerful engine and a very robust airframe, despite its less than competitive maneuverability.

  • @ShoGunGrebby
    @ShoGunGrebby День назад

    The only fair fight is one you're able walk away from when it's over...

  • @qcumberpatch
    @qcumberpatch День назад

    I wish I could fly the jug like that!

  • @Mav09
    @Mav09 День назад

    F/A-18E/F vs F-35C (Fox-2 fight) would be epic to see! Navy vs Navy : Old vs New
    Day 178

  • @bjrneirikstrkersen1021
    @bjrneirikstrkersen1021 День назад

    Most aircraft has an engine. On the P47, the engine has an aircraft.

  • @JozMkII
    @JozMkII День назад

    13:40 GS just didn't have it in him to be the better man

  • @icin4d
    @icin4d День назад

    Nice. But when I'm in the Jug and I see a 109, I do what they told Neo - Run. 🤣

  • @andiepants1840
    @andiepants1840 День назад

    Shotgun is a beast!

  • @TheRaptorXX
    @TheRaptorXX День назад

    Fair? It's surely about one plane versus another plane and see who wins!!
    That guy is GOOD in that Thunderbolt, fair play to him!!

  • @guyderagisch4964
    @guyderagisch4964 23 часа назад

    Jugs also had pilot controlled methanol injection for extra power.