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What I loved about this vid was that you started explaining some of the aircraft systems in more detail during the engagement as they came up. Love that style. maybe try to incorporate that more into future vids, like mentioning each system and how/what are you using it for.
I've definitely seen the flanker datalink display missiles as very fast contacts. I don't know exactly why but it does happen, probably because the AWACS can pick up the missile and sends that to DL if I had to guess. I've never had it happen in a mission without AWACS.
Agreed Sir . They Tie First . Especially the 2 seat flanker. That time when a plane just looks ....mmm.... sensational! I love the SU34 fullback as well... a dirty fetish 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Just got myself a HOTAS and started flying Flankers right from the get go. This is an amazing guide. Thank you so much. You never fail to bring quality content.
I’m hoping to fly Flankers more, been having to focus what time I have to work on the F-18, since the squad I recently joined does missions every week.
I fly flankers frequently you want any tips as a lot of the stuff on RUclips can be difficult to understand! Although if I take a while to respond I am sorry as I have a lot of school.
@@foxhound24 That is incredibly nice of you non the less. Do you have any tips on weapon's load on high altitude against nato aircraft? Like what should i bring along to compensate with my significantly weaker radar? Thanks a lot man.
Indeed the Flanker datalink sees missiles as hostile contacts, at least the ones big enough (such as AIM-54). Also you didn't see the last bandit because you were scanning in -1 and 0 so basically level and under you, and he was above. If you scanned +1 (maybe +2) you would've seen him straight away, keep an eye on those crosswise lines on the datalink contact :)
I was aircraft technician on Su-27SM jets. It actually have 3 Multipurpose indicators (monitors) instead of one, and it's much more comfortable to use. I wonder if theres such modification in DCS.
9:30 you can figure it out by looking on your RWR, if the signal is strong, missile is first one and near by. If signal is weak and increases rapidly, it means amraam went pit bull a moment ago and it is a new one. 8:44 same think. RWR signal has just the half of strength and not changing. It means that missile is not too close to you and already has the same speed as you do, and getting slower and slower cause of the drag. So it is beaten already
Amazing fight and skills.The RU RWR reminds me something from the 60's , like Pinball lol It would be great if the missions had some unpredictability, e.g to not know how many the bandits will be.
12:02 Yes, the Datalink sees the missiles. They appear as hostile contacts with a SUPER LONG longitudinal vector (because, you know, they're missiles, so they go SUPER FAST). The datalink treats ALL missiles as hostile contacts, even missiles from friendly units. And it makes sense, because they're... well... MISSILES. They're dangerous.
9:32 "...but we're still alive." That statement seems to typically if not canonically increase the lethality and the probability of kill of all enemy weapons by 3000% easily...
Always a pleasure to see some of the non-NATO hardware showcased. Fingers crossed we get that teased full-fidelity MiG-29 someday! FC3 is fun but it's just not the same experience. Also really nice to see acknowledgement that Soviet/Russian fighter doctrine is designed to work alongside ground-based air-defence assets.
@@jetfighter200 Some of us actually enjoy the airmanship challenge of things like systems management, navigation and communications in addition to just shooting things.
Regarding the explanations of the systems onboard the aircraft: I would be really interested in a video just covering that using the SU-27 as an example.
ikr when they drop their tanks and the last doesnt it iis like "thats why they got shot" or: "damn if i get hit i wanna burn really!!!!!!!" but that SAM really took on em... what a beast!
I’m American and I love your videos when you are in the F-22, F-15, or F-16. Probably my favorite video on your channel is the Penetration video with you in the F-22 dominating Russian aircraft, but I do like how you even it out on which side you fight for. Nice to see the Russians getting some love. 👍
Those data link contacts were in fact the sam missiles, same thing happens with phoenixes, you can pretty much tell one one is fired by the big speed representation.
That pilot would probably be getting a parade when he landed. Three F-16 kills in one sortie? I'd have to assume that would be the biggest victory in Russian aviation history.
ATCO: Why are you zig-zaging just after take-off? Pilot: Just making some SID maneuvers as it published ATCO: So don`t forget to activate your transponder lol And go back if you are not RVSM-and PBN approved xD
Maybe idk but maybe the SAM missiles sended a signal or something to the aircraft to show that help has arrived? And maybe the su-27 thought it was a hostile
Hey GS!😎👊🇺🇸 I'm going to go in and crank up my VR and watch on that format. It is so much better than a phone or a tablet. Give me just a few seconds here. And I'll go back to the beginning. Most of the newest from the F4 to the raptor, especially my f-14. That's my baby. As far as Russian aircrafts, I'm learning a lot from you with your tutelage. Deeply appreciated this way when I get in one I won't be totally ignorant or a nugget. I'm a Navy man ⚓🇺🇸⚓ Wish you many victories my friend. Aka Smokwagn
Great matchup... Can't wait to see the outcome! Edit: Not gonna lie, I was expecting you to get blasted out of the sky, Sidewinder. My cheeks are sore from all the clenching. Great work!
Hey Question, how is it your FOX 3s are so effective? I've seen in other videos of yours during BVR engagements, your FOX 3s (and your opponents) are often easily defended. However, in this vid, they are hitting their makes quite frequently. Is it the quality of the opponent? Or is it different when it's a 1v1? Love your work man :) Keep it coming!
Same here tbh the missiles in these type of videos feel like they are on steroids compared to 1v1 BVR engagements. Almost every shot here is a hit which is rare
Lol i am used to su33 seeing data link showing me Sam missiles, its pretty useful, also flanker without modded r77 isn't as much of a threat as in this video
I doubt that SAMs are equipped with IFF, so they would probably show up as hostile on the datalink due to not being identified. Also I'm really proud of myself of having become to well aquainted with datalink from watching your videos, that I could identify at a glance the two new contacts, their altitude, their high speed and their heading. If I ever get into playing DCS myself, this will give me a good head start!
I realized very early that the data link of su27 could display missiles. I chased an AIM54 for nearly 5 minutes and was wondering what aircraft could fly so fast. I didn't realize how stupid I was until I saw the replay of Tacview.
Couple of things, you should look at signal strength when the amram is pitbull to see if it still has energy or not that way you know when to safely recommit, also you didn't see the last guy on the radar cuz your radar was pointing down -1 and you were coalt with the guy
Yes the radar in the SU-33/SU-27 deos track surface to air missiles as hostile aircraft. I'm not sure if it's actually what eagle dynamics was aiming for but it's useful for SEAD in Russian aircraft, no small feat as you have to get in close with rockets but it is a good strategy to bait a launch to find the site in PVP.
Great video GS! Question. If you are defending, why are you not waiting for the enemy aircraft to violate the border before engaging? I know this is for fun but what I saw was you violating another country's airspace (crossing the river), shooting down an aircraft on patrol, without cause or provocation and then continue that engagement across the boarder into your airspace. If the F-16's shot at you first then this would be reason to engage them. But they didn't. In peace time you would not shoot down another aircraft until it crosses the boarder (KISS), the river in this case. You just created an international incident and started a world war. lol Fantastic video GS! You always put 100% into each video, you explain what's going on and 1 point of interest in each aircraft. Well done!
I think the American rwr is better when it comes to determining what the primary threat actually is. Because it not only shows you where the threats are but specifically what kind of jet they are.
Luckily it was 4 rookies V 1 veteran... Guess they haven't done that chapter in the fighter pilot's handbook: "How to smash a single fighter with 2 X 2 ship flights, AWACA support and comparable missiles"
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B - sounds like V. H sounds like - N in ruzzke.
Why exactly are you the Russian fighter instead of the NATO Viper? Are you a Putin sympathizer or some kind of Trump supporter? 🤣
❤ the platform would like to see a mission with the nagad to showcase its moves thank you and hope to see it soon
F-22 Raptor VS Nine North Korean MIG-29's BVR plzkthx
Near the end, I thought there was a surprise bandit joining the fray.
What I loved about this vid was that you started explaining some of the aircraft systems in more detail during the engagement as they came up. Love that style. maybe try to incorporate that more into future vids, like mentioning each system and how/what are you using it for.
Have fun with your new flanker mate, she is a fun bird to fly in the skies, albeit a challenging ones (much harder than the f16 that I fly nowadays)
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You know its going to be good when you show up and RUclips is saying there are six comments and only two are visible.
First time?
By the way, what/who hides these comments ? And why ?
@@KuBi4K one of lifes greatest mysteries
See ?
Someone just answered "I'm assuming the use of..." (my phone notification told me this), but I can't find the reply here
I also enjoy the part where this video is only 4h old yet your co,ment is 5h old
It might sound weird, but these BVR videos help me sleep better. The high altitude scenery and the RWR sounds are so relaxing
You find these sounds relaxing? I guess I played too much LOMAC back in the day, but these sounds fill me with utter terror.
@@teeanahera8949 All hail the youtube comment spell checker!
They make me say oh shit lol. I fly the hornet so anytime I hear that wee woo wee woo I’m looking about frantically
@@Nr15121 Dadoo dadoo... dadadadadadadadadadada
"Uh oh".
Relaxing RWR Sounds to get Splashed at High Altitude to (10 Hours)
F-16: **drop tanks... explodes**
F-16: **drop tanks... explodes**
Last F-16: "I'm not dropping my tanks"
underrated
''its better to burn than fade away''
@@ioanniskaloudis4888There can be only one!
Those Vipers were dropping their tanks way too late.
@@hp2084 The last F-16 didn't commit suicide. He was hit by a SAM while still maneuvering.
I've definitely seen the flanker datalink display missiles as very fast contacts. I don't know exactly why but it does happen, probably because the AWACS can pick up the missile and sends that to DL if I had to guess. I've never had it happen in a mission without AWACS.
That’s my working theory right now also, I think ur correct.
Great setup for the mission. And the Russian RWR info was very helpful. The Flankers equipped with modern BVR missiles are very capable.
Like Indian SU 30 Mki equipped with Astra BVRAAM
@@thomasvelazquez9789 flanker in dcs is from the eightees
The Flanker and Tomcat are the still the finest looking fighters ever made.
Agreed Sir . They Tie First . Especially the 2 seat flanker. That time when a plane just looks ....mmm.... sensational!
I love the SU34 fullback as well... a dirty fetish 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@paulybassman7311 agreed! it looks great tbh
@@paulybassman7311just built a 1/72 su34 model, nice looking aircraft
I've built a 1/32 su27 kit . Its Awesome
Just got myself a HOTAS and started flying Flankers right from the get go. This is an amazing guide. Thank you so much. You never fail to bring quality content.
I’m hoping to fly Flankers more, been having to focus what time I have to work on the F-18, since the squad I recently joined does missions every week.
I fly flankers frequently you want any tips as a lot of the stuff on RUclips can be difficult to understand! Although if I take a while to respond I am sorry as I have a lot of school.
@@foxhound24 That is incredibly nice of you non the less. Do you have any tips on weapon's load on high altitude against nato aircraft? Like what should i bring along to compensate with my significantly weaker radar? Thanks a lot man.
SAM sites: *launches 3 missiles*
Datalink: OH NO 4 GUYS ARE ON YOU AT MACH 6
having the R77 - 1 on the flanker is all it really needs to do BVR with bluefor on DCS.
makes it a su35 essentially
An updated radar and screen would also help. Something similar to the SM variant. (I know SM2 and SM3 would be too much).
Yeah but having an Ibris-E to go along with them would be magical
13:10 meanwhile whatever life form that got absolutely obliterated by that missile:
babushka picking berries for late brunch foud oblierated in ohio cnn says
It would be cool if you could coordinate and get actual people to fly opposing bandits
Indeed the Flanker datalink sees missiles as hostile contacts, at least the ones big enough (such as AIM-54). Also you didn't see the last bandit because you were scanning in -1 and 0 so basically level and under you, and he was above. If you scanned +1 (maybe +2) you would've seen him straight away, keep an eye on those crosswise lines on the datalink contact :)
I was aircraft technician on Su-27SM jets. It actually have 3 Multipurpose indicators (monitors) instead of one, and it's much more comfortable to use.
I wonder if theres such modification in DCS.
unfortunately we don't have the more modern flankers in DCS but I hope one day we will.
9:30 you can figure it out by looking on your RWR, if the signal is strong, missile is first one and near by. If signal is weak and increases rapidly, it means amraam went pit bull a moment ago and it is a new one.
8:44 same think. RWR signal has just the half of strength and not changing. It means that missile is not too close to you and already has the same speed as you do, and getting slower and slower cause of the drag. So it is beaten already
Su-27 - I would like some support here!!!
Sam - You're doing GREAT! Keep it up
GS I would love some more SEAD videos with a variety of aircraft keep the uploads coming!❤
Those colors on the Su-27 look amazing. Almost as good as the Israeli desert camo pattern.
Been loving these BVR/Intercept videos! Keep them going.
Amazing fight and skills.The RU RWR reminds me something from the 60's , like Pinball lol
It would be great if the missions had some unpredictability, e.g to not know how many the bandits will be.
12:02 Yes, the Datalink sees the missiles. They appear as hostile contacts with a SUPER LONG longitudinal vector (because, you know, they're missiles, so they go SUPER FAST). The datalink treats ALL missiles as hostile contacts, even missiles from friendly units. And it makes sense, because they're... well... MISSILES. They're dangerous.
Missiles don't have IFF i assume so it just gets sorted as hostile for everyone
08:13 "As We Bravely Run Away... !!!" 👌😑
9:32 "...but we're still alive." That statement seems to typically if not canonically increase the lethality and the probability of kill of all enemy weapons by 3000% easily...
Very cool video, really love the variety of airframes shown in these videos. Also bonus we get to see a landing at the end ;).
One Flanker taking on 4 Vipers really is something of a feat.
Can the opposite be done?
Always a pleasure to see some of the non-NATO hardware showcased. Fingers crossed we get that teased full-fidelity MiG-29 someday! FC3 is fun but it's just not the same experience. Also really nice to see acknowledgement that Soviet/Russian fighter doctrine is designed to work alongside ground-based air-defence assets.
@@jetfighter200 Some of us actually enjoy the airmanship challenge of things like systems management, navigation and communications in addition to just shooting things.
wow that was way too easy against f-16s. Well played sir (salute)
there being one kid watching two jets duel it out and eating popcorn
Regarding the explanations of the systems onboard the aircraft: I would be really interested in a video just covering that using the SU-27 as an example.
Impressive fight as usual. Great situational awareness
It was a smart move to lure the last Viper into your AA net, well done!
+10 points for channeling Sir Robin AND slipping in the reference. 😆
*B1 Battledroid voice*
There’s four of us, and only one of him-
It won’t matter.
"Cause if I get too high, I'll be too slow..." - nothing like blowing a joint on a combat mission.
Keep it up bro!
Love the educational information 👌
Man, those last few minutes were intense!!!!! Awesome mission!!!👍🔥🔥🔥
ikr when they drop their tanks and the last doesnt it iis like "thats why they got shot" or: "damn if i get hit i wanna burn really!!!!!!!"
but that SAM really took on em... what a beast!
Love these scenario based videos! Really awesome to watch
I’m American and I love your videos when you are in the F-22, F-15, or F-16. Probably my favorite video on your channel is the Penetration video with you in the F-22 dominating Russian aircraft, but I do like how you even it out on which side you fight for. Nice to see the Russians getting some love. 👍
Love the winter camo scheme on the Flanker - looks straight out of WW2!
Always amazed, when you fly, everyone dies, doesn’t matter who you are flying against.
thank you brother but I die often I assure you. sometimes you luck just runs out.
Those data link contacts were in fact the sam missiles, same thing happens with phoenixes, you can pretty much tell one one is fired by the big speed representation.
That pilot would probably be getting a parade when he landed. Three F-16 kills in one sortie? I'd have to assume that would be the biggest victory in Russian aviation history.
ATCO: Why are you zig-zaging just after take-off? Pilot: Just making some SID maneuvers as it published ATCO: So don`t forget to activate your transponder lol And go back if you are not RVSM-and PBN approved xD
That last Viper just accepted his fate lmao
Too fixated on chasing the Flanker then realised he's surrounded by SAMS
Maybe idk but maybe the SAM missiles sended a signal or something to the aircraft to show that help has arrived? And maybe the su-27 thought it was a hostile
the info about the rwr was actually really cool, i didn't know it had half of that functionality
Hey GS!😎👊🇺🇸 I'm going to go in and crank up my VR and watch on that format. It is so much better than a phone or a tablet. Give me just a few seconds here. And I'll go back to the beginning. Most of the newest from the F4 to the raptor, especially my f-14. That's my baby. As far as Russian aircrafts, I'm learning a lot from you with your tutelage. Deeply appreciated this way when I get in one I won't be totally ignorant or a nugget. I'm a Navy man ⚓🇺🇸⚓ Wish you many victories my friend. Aka Smokwagn
GS, Challenge: try to defeat 4 su-27s with one f-16 viper
yeah cool explanation of how the RWR for the SU-27 works but that seemed kinda like passive aggressive
This was BEAUTIFUL! GS you magnificent Anthropomorphic Missile! This video will make a fine addition to my collection.
Great matchup... Can't wait to see the outcome!
Edit: Not gonna lie, I was expecting you to get blasted out of the sky, Sidewinder. My cheeks are sore from all the clenching. Great work!
Su27: - Help -
SAM site : We are having lunch comrade
yes, datalink can show SAM missiles sometimes.. and you should see SM2 how it looks like on DL.. it is loooooong line almost across whole DL :D
I was legit expecting you do disintegrate from one moment to the other when you went cold.
Excellent work, comrade Growlowsky.
paint job on the flanker looks cool as hell
Ayo this is so cool, especially the SAM sites missiles appearing on the data link
Such a gorgeous bird the Su-27 😍😍
Hey Question, how is it your FOX 3s are so effective? I've seen in other videos of yours during BVR engagements, your FOX 3s (and your opponents) are often easily defended. However, in this vid, they are hitting their makes quite frequently. Is it the quality of the opponent? Or is it different when it's a 1v1? Love your work man :) Keep it coming!
Same here tbh the missiles in these type of videos feel like they are on steroids compared to 1v1 BVR engagements. Almost every shot here is a hit which is rare
Ye I’ve seen that before , my radar in the SU picked amraams now and again fired at me.
Unless it was a awacs feed.
Lol i am used to su33 seeing data link showing me Sam missiles, its pretty useful, also flanker without modded r77 isn't as much of a threat as in this video
Loving the scenario vids! Keep up the brilliant content.
Swap those F16s for Typhoons with meteors next!
I doubt that SAMs are equipped with IFF, so they would probably show up as hostile on the datalink due to not being identified. Also I'm really proud of myself of having become to well aquainted with datalink from watching your videos, that I could identify at a glance the two new contacts, their altitude, their high speed and their heading. If I ever get into playing DCS myself, this will give me a good head start!
I miss Tacview.
Nice work in the flanker!!
I realized very early that the data link of su27 could display missiles. I chased an AIM54 for nearly 5 minutes and was wondering what aircraft could fly so fast. I didn't realize how stupid I was until I saw the replay of Tacview.
The f-16s had no chance we all knew but the AMRAM did
Couple of things, you should look at signal strength when the amram is pitbull to see if it still has energy or not that way you know when to safely recommit, also you didn't see the last guy on the radar cuz your radar was pointing down -1 and you were coalt with the guy
Yeah the radar pitch thing on the Flankers are weird
Yes the radar in the SU-33/SU-27 deos track surface to air missiles as hostile aircraft. I'm not sure if it's actually what eagle dynamics was aiming for but it's useful for SEAD in Russian aircraft, no small feat as you have to get in close with rockets but it is a good strategy to bait a launch to find the site in PVP.
The camo pattern if not the coloration on the Su-27 reminds me of the Swedish m.90 pattern.
This is unrelated but an f22 is going to be in an air show near me, my parents will allow me to go and I’m really excited.
finally some nice gameplay from the other side
"Flanker" the word feels so awesome .
Great video GS! Question. If you are defending, why are you not waiting for the enemy aircraft to violate the border before engaging? I know this is for fun but what I saw was you violating another country's airspace (crossing the river), shooting down an aircraft on patrol, without cause or provocation and then continue that engagement across the boarder into your airspace. If the F-16's shot at you first then this would be reason to engage them. But they didn't.
In peace time you would not shoot down another aircraft until it crosses the boarder (KISS), the river in this case. You just created an international incident and started a world war. lol
Fantastic video GS! You always put 100% into each video, you explain what's going on and 1 point of interest in each aircraft. Well done!
I know the map. The river doesnt marked any country boarder. Its more of a reference for GS to know when he is own sam protected airspace.
@@Mike_Romeo Thank you for clearing that up Mike.
Also Remember that it's a 20m dollor jet vs 80m dollor het...
i saw the big sam missles also often with its long line for fast travel
That’s a stunning camo!
Man I wish they made a clickable Su-35 Flanker in DCS. Ka-52 would be awesome as well
I think the American rwr is better when it comes to determining what the primary threat actually is. Because it not only shows you where the threats are but specifically what kind of jet they are.
Loved that Monty Python reference, GS. ;)
oh boy these thumbnails and video titles keeps on getting better and better every day, this thumbnail was just fantastic.
That is a sick ass skin on the Flanker. 🤘🏼
Luckily it was 4 rookies V 1 veteran...
Guess they haven't done that chapter in the fighter pilot's handbook: "How to smash a single fighter with 2 X 2 ship flights, AWACA support and comparable missiles"
I see a su27 i click
Yes datalink display missiles sometimes. Much often with phoneixes or SAM. Sometimes even amraams
A magnificent fight.
This is 100 times better than Dog fights on History Channel. I used to love that show
we need more missions, like the one where you shot down the bombers, we need more missions!!!!
That's some sick camo on the flanker
If the AWACS have a much further radar range then why don't they just strap the AWACS will long range missiles to shoot down the fighter jets?
Genial
Hmm.. you need missiles with range over 600 km..
this is something I have thought many many times and have no idea why haha
Think pheniox but it would have to be like 5x the size... that's why.
Huge, heavy, won't be able to manuver worth a damn.
@@stinkyfungus just shink it 🤦♂️
Thats Halarious that the air difference didn't shoot until the last viper lol
ayy good job man, keep making these interesting videos :)
Maybe some su-35s with better muscle capabilities in the mix? Fav out of all the flankers
Yes flanker data link shows missiles when you have an AWACS
Nice vid icon btw and great showcase as usual.
Ride across the river, deep and wide
Ride across the river to the other side
Dire Straights, Ride Across the River
Flanker is the Soviet design masterpiece. Look at this fuselage 🤤