The SNK Neo Geo AES and MVS - Review - Game Sack
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- Опубликовано: 4 дек 2015
- Episode 155 - This is it! The most powerful system ever created in the history of time!! At least that's what Chad the mighty Game Lord at SNK would have you believe. Correspondence with him back in the day as well as SNK's ads are what prompted the 'tude of this episode.
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Being an 80’s baby, born in a poor area, the Neo-Geo was like a myth. We knew it existed, but had never seen one.
same
just like vaginas.
We used to salivate looking at It through the stores display. It was like the Ferrari of consoles.
@@silverhawk661 My friends and even my cousin all fabricated stories of owning one!!! But only I knew the truth. The system was over 1200 dollars to own, and games ran for 600 dollars each!!! When ever I heard their stories, I challenged it every time. They were all liars. Truly a console of myth and legend!!! I miss those days.
It sure was. I never knew anybody that owned one.
I still really, _really_ want a Neo Geo. It's eluded me for far too long.
Don't even bother with the AES...speaking as a former owner, you should totally go with an MVS if you decide you must go one way or the other. The biggest issue I have with the home carts is you're limited to a 4-credit setup upon startup or until game over. Gets to be a real pain in the ass when you're playing harder games (like the Metal Slug series) or games with friends, and that isn't even getting into the prices!
They mentioned renting the helicopter game Joe covered, I believe it was the first game he covered. The only problem is I only ever saw one store EVER have Neo Geo games for rent! It was a random Mom&Poop style place on Long Beach Island here in New Jersey, and they only had 8 AES games available for rent, and 12 NGCD games, 2 of the AES games were Metal Slugs, and 2 were King of Fighters games. I'll always remember this because I saw these huge cases on the shelf with only one rented out, and asked the guy behind the counter what they were, and he yelled "They're Neo Geo games Bud!! A bunch of kids here on the island own them, and asked us to carry them, we got the CD games first, and they were apparently the wrong kind, it took almost a year to recoup the cost of those bricks". This was back in the summer of 1996, and I was just there looking for a SNES game to rent, which they had TONS of, and a VHS or two. Looking back I always think how cool it was for them to have gone out of their way to carry NG AES games to rent for kids there, I could see perhaps carrying games for the CD unit if enough demand was there, but those expensive ass AES cartridges? They had to have gotten the idea that the system was gonna be one of the next big things in gaming, and after getting those first 8, realized it was some niche rich person thing so they cut it off there. I wonder what happened to the games they had, if they sold em off in store before inevitably going out of business like every rental store, or if they sold them privately on EBay or something like that. Either way, they HAD to be one of only a handful of places to ever carry at least AES games, if not both them and the Neo Geo CD games as well. They were clearly some cool people, cause they also had really good SNES games like Aero Fighters, and Hagane which was the only time I ever actually played the cartridges of either of those games, and they had really good Genesis games too. Miss that place.
+SeGa32xXx Summer of 1998**
Wow, I'm amazed they got them that late into the system's lifespan. As cool as it was to own one, in all honesty the best games of the SNES absolutely dwarf the best of the Neo. Give me classic Super Mario Kart alone over any of the Metal Slugs/fighting games. Fatal Fury Special was amazing, but even then most of the games received arcade-perfect/enhanced ports, like the PS2 anthologies.
+greenskiis I totally agree, you're a fucking awesome person. There is so much more varied fun to be had on the SNES than there is to be had on the AES and MVS, which I have emulated for years on a Frankensteined cabinet my brother built. But my first console before I got big into the Sega 32x/Genesis, and later the Saturn, Dreamcast, and lastly the original XBox, that was my own and not my Dads NES, was indeed the SNES. I built up a library of Almost 200 games buying them SO cheap in the early 2000s and there is just so much damn fun to be had on that system! The Neo Geos are great for what they are and all, especially if you're big into fighting games, which I do admittedly love, but the variety on the platform is just unfortunately not there...
I remember being 12 years old and asking my Dad to lend me £650 for a Neo Geo.... That wasn't a long conversation.
😂😂😂
lol, your dad immediately gives you 1000 usd?
@@TheXuism he meant his dad immediately said no
@@TheXuism derp
😂 Best dad son conversation ever
As a HARDCORE SNK fan, THANKS SO MUCH for this vid.
NEO GEO RULES BABY.
Without a doubt, I love the system overviews.
Pure nostalgia.
+Salokin Sekwah
Yeah man the system overview episodes are the reason I started watching Game Sack. It's like condensing a bunch of forum reading into 30-40 minutes' worth of video entertainment.
Not over-the-top enough for the AES - needs more explosions and lightning
+noisyturtle
"Needs more explosions and lightning," sounds like my sex life.
+noisyturtle If the Neo needs more explosions and lighting then the rest need Hollywood. There's nothing comparible to the collecting experience of a Neo Geo Aes for several reasons, the closest for me would be collecting for the Sharp X68.
I'm one of the idiots who bought my aes in the 90s.
It was a wet dream in the early 90s when I was in high school. I've had it forever and love it to this day. Spent a stupid amount of money on it and have amassed nearly 80 games for it. Second favorite system, that title still belongs to the Sega Saturn.
What nobody tells you is that these cartridges get heavy quick. I've moved several times since 1998 and have back problems from schlepping these games around. They're awesome. Good pain.
Rich idiots lol.
@@urbanmidnight1
Some people worked hard for them. I bought one with my first paycheck. Getting the games hard because they were so expensive I ended up with several games.
But it was nowhere near as good as the snes is I am being honest.
@@bighands69 Bought one with one paycheck? You must have been an investment banker.😅😅🤣
@@ricky-sanchez
Worked as a medical professional and it took up a sizeable chunk of my pay.
I like my raspberry pi 4
As being in a family that ran arcades, the main reason why the home games were 'nearly' identical to the arcade counterparts was because they were in fact the same ROM. Internal dip switches in the arcade or home console let the arcade board/cartridge function on it's respective setups. The few games that appeared somewhat different a few of the fighting games, samurai showdown and some of the KOF games. When detecting the game was being run on a home system, some, censorship appared. Such as blood turned to white sweat in Samurai Showdown and Mai loosing some of her... bouncing assets.
Yeah, the fact the cart was basically an arcade board that contained many hardware assets was a reason the carts were sooooo expensive. They didn't need to deal with image compression to fit image data from tiny 2, 4, or even 16 meg ROM to video RAM. Each cart just crammed a crap ton of ROM and let the video handler go nuts with it.
I bet you have fun stories with the arcades!
*its respective setups (possessive)
it's = contraction of "it is/has"
*appeared
The mvs systems censored the games when the console region was set to America and regions where censorship was needed. Not because it was set to home..
@@alvallac2171 lol wow
You are right, many peolple think that Neo-Geo MVS and Neo-Geo AES use different roms, but the real thing is what you said, they use the same rom. It's the system (AES or MVS) that change the game into arcade or console version when it's loaded.
garage sale with aes and mvs games? what kind of dream world is that?
+Skyk0rn I don't know but I want to live there.
I'm sure it happens all of the time
not one I have ever saw!!
The magical world of pre-2005 when game collecting was just a nerd niche, and not a trendy investment. Back when no one wanted NES games and you could find them for pennies in bins all over used game shops.
@@neoasura Ah, so you need to find a time machine at a garage sale first
I love the Neo Geo graphics.
[Coury] Amazing episode. Can we get some BTS footage of the VO recording session for that system introduction?
I just bought a Neo Geo AES. Thanks guys.
I asked the clerk at my local Goodwill, "Which way to the Neo Geo AES section my good sir?"... Unfortunately he thought I was talking about the MVS, and their selection of both was somewhat limited. I had to wade through a sea of Magical Chase TurboChips and TurboDuo systems to get there, along with the typical Sharp X68000 stuff you'd expect to find at any Goodwill in America.
Was the MVS stuff sitting on a stack of Little Samson NES carts, right next to the 3 boxed/sealed nintendo playstations?
You should've bought the turbo duo
That’s a great dream you’ve had. I used to find TVs at Goodwill for a couple of quarters. They were small TVs that were probably from the 90s. I found those kind of TVs in 2015
I like how near the beginning of the video Joe and Dave were recommending they find the games in locations it would almost certainly never be in. They're giving us a subtle "good luck."
The Neo Geo had a VERY unusual architecture for its time. It was a 16-bit system but it didn't use backgrounds or tiles at all. EVERYTHING is a sprite, and it is virtually unlimited in what it can do with them (to the extent that it's easy to make background layers out of sprites). This is why it did parallax, background zooming, and scaling so well. It wasn't possible to do the kinds of stuff that it could do on a regular home console until the Saturn came out. It took 32-bit systems to match it. Of course, today you can easily emulate it, even on the Switch...but it was damn impressive in its time.
Yes at the time console ports were cut down as they couldn't store all the NEO NEO game data or match its sound and sprite performance.
Almost every single game in this video looks cool as heck!
44 minutes of MEGA POWER!!!
Oh, I know why you like playing as Mai. ;)
It's because she's an easy character to play as, right? ...Yeah, that's gotta be it. That's totally the reason.
I can at least think of TWO other reasons....
going back and re watching all you videos again and making sure I click the "thumbs up" on each one
What a dedicated fan you are. *thumbs up*
MAN!!! when i worked at Straw Hat pizza as a teenager, the arcades we had were Operation Wolf,Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter,NBA Jam, and Neo Geo arcade...... I play the shit out of Samari Showdown and Bubble Bobble...... The DAYS!!!!
I love how you use stop motion when you show the inside of a console. It's one of the coolest things I've seen for a video like this.
Thank you for the video Joe. I also really appreciate all the effort you specifically are putting in to Final Bosses. You don't get nearly the amount of credit you deserve, and lets face it, you deserve alot.
Just brilliant. 10/10 Chaps. Keep up the good work.
+Chris Lover Just brilliant 0-1 Bournemouth. Keep up the bad work.
+BoloYung. lol really become use to this bad season, taking it all in stride good sir. ;)
+Chris Lover #chelseatochampionship
+Chris Lover #chelseatothechampionship
+PAINNN666 I like the second revision better PAINNN.
Best intro ever. Came back to watch the episode again just for the intro lolol
Neo Geo = The High Price Luxury Car of video Game Consoles
It was high priced but to say it was a the luxury car of the video games home console is a little bit rich. It offered nowhere near the game options of the snes or mega drive. There is not one RPG for the Neo Geo because simply was a home arcade machine and it was expensive as hell.
@bghand69 I've often wondered what a Neo Geo RPG would have been like. Maybe someday someone will make a homebrew one so we can find out.
@@bighands69 There is Samurai Spirits RPG on the Neo Geo CD, I guess...
@@AceTrainerX3
It is not as deep as a true home RPG.
@@58jharris
Could you imagine what Zelda would have been like if it was developed for the Neo Geo or Final Fantasy?
Not an RPG but the likes of Mario Kart would have been Amazing or street fighter.
I just started this video and holy shit! That intro you did for this console, is amazing!
Neo-Geo master race!
This was a lot more Sack than I was expecting to see this Sunday.
Its been 4 years. Are you still alive? Or has coronavirus consumed you yet?
I'm going down to my local Goodwill and pcking up all these games TODAY!
The goodwill in Atlantis.
Oh boy! I'll go right down to my local Blockbuster and rent that game just like you recommended!
This episode was a monster! Just what I needed to bring me out of my sunday morning hangover. Great job guys.
The obscene amounts of MEGA POWER in this episode left me walking with a limp
Just finished restoring a four slot MVS that has been lurking around in the cupboard for about 20 years, I have Metal Slug 1,2,3 and 5 plus Neo Turf Masters and Puzzle Bobble for it. I couldn't be happier, as I have built my own control panel for it with a built-in powersupply etc as well. Picked up one of those 161 - 1 carts to experience the rest of the games, as the originals are now fiercely expensive. Off now to have some Metal Slug fun, cheers.
The AES was so powerful.....And that's why it failed in the home console market. Power = expensive.
+David315842
It did not fail because it was too expensive it failed because all it had to offer was shallow arcade games that were cool when you had to ration your coin usage. They would addictive games but once you cleared them at home they sort of lost their charm very rapidly.
I had an Neo Geo that I bought with my first paycheck and it was one of my dream purchases and I used to sit day dreaming about owning one when I was at medical school. Once you got one it simply was very limited and as you pointed out very expensive.
It was never intended for the mass market but for people who wanted an arcade quality experience at home and were willing to pay the price for it.
The NeoGeo is a complete success.It’s like to say Ferrari failed in the car market. They were just targeting a niche market, arcade quality games at home. No others systems thrived for so many years, and is still fondly remembered now
It was never a failure.
My grandma is sick in the hospital jerks! Thanks for reminding me. Naw, i'm just kidding! She's already dead :)
+MetalJesusRocks
2edgy4me
Dude my grandma is dead, too! She died like any elderly woman would want: She was devoured by mutant cyberwolves on a blood cruise. She was 87.
+Dave Bladegun You're trying way too hard
+Greeneyez2475
On the contrary. It took me about five seconds to type that.
+Greeneyez2475
Do not flatter yourself with jealous fantasies!
What is this? 44 minutes of awesomeness? I approve.
Robo Army... man, I've been looking for that game forever, couldn't find the name or any footage throughout the years, all I remembered was the first level. Thank you Game Sack ;)
the end of the video is hilarious
"Get away from me you filthy port!"
"Daaaaddyyyy!"
SNK has contributed significantly to the fighting games genre in general. People talk a lot about Street Fighter, but The King of Fighters, Art of Fighting and Fatal Fury are 3 fighting games that brought a lot to this genre. SNK should be recognized as much as Capcom for what it made in the past. Amazing review
The Mega Power,
"IT'S OVER 9000!!!"
One of my favourite videos EVER I must have seen it 3000 times.
So powerful of a 16 bit console that only the next gen 32/64 bit consoles could make perfect ports!!!!!!!!
lol no, perfect NeoGeo ports started with the Dreamcast
Metal Slug's pixel art is so damn cool that companies are still launching Metal Slug games using those sprites.
+eng3d The Metal Slug mobile game is really fun. If you are a Metal Slug fan or love that art style, it's all official SNK animations of hundreds of enemy types.
Gunstar heroes can eat their dust
So Joe likes playing Mai on Fatal Fury...I wonder what jiggled his fancy toward that character.
+Zeldas Champion
His penis, no doubt.
+Zeldas Champion *_Me Bouncy_*
+Zeldas Champion I kinda prefer Mary more.
+Zeldas Champion Confirmed for yellow fever
I prefer Sotaku
Neo geo was like a myth or a Bigfoot legend back in my day I never knew anyone who had one but there was always someone that knew someone that had one or knew someone that knew someone that had one lol and it always sounded so cool. Arcade games at home no half ass versions but I never got to play one to this day
just got a consolized mvs and this video made my day. you guys are awesome.
You guys are really, really good. I hope you know that.
Holy crap, this is an amazing episode. Thanks for the work you put into it.
One of my favorite videos from this channel about one of my favorite consoles!
that was quite possibly the best system intro you guys have EVER done! MEGA POWAAAAAA!
and thank you for making Game Sack!
System was priced 1 dollar per megapower.
And then some
It's awesome being able to play many of these titles anywhere I want on Nintendo Switch! My favorite is Pulstar (featured in your Neo Geo CD video).
Another great video from Joe and Dave. This makes my day!
mom: grandma's dead.
dad: yes! we get sundays back kids!
me: i found blazing star
everyone: WHOOHOO!
Grandma, stop hoarding Neo Geo games in your attic, you can't take them with you!
Grandma dies and they find neo turf masters crammed in the couch cushions.
Probably your best Episode yet (love those hardware based episodes) ... never new that there were more than 3-non fighting games for the system ... it looks suddenly a lot more interesting
That ending had me in stitches. Good system review guys.
seems like the neo geo just had some of the best lineup straight out of arcade!
It was just all arcade games. I owned one but always felt that the Snes was better all round but was no where near as powerful due to the arcade cartridges of the Neo geo.
No windjammers, FOR SHAME!!!!!
KojaqVidya dude! this game is so expensive! probably thousands of dollars!
This is also the first video by Game Sack that I've seen. Seen several since last week. Keep up the great work, guys!
Wow that was great. Never seen someone cover that system so well. Makes me want one. I know I've seen the arcades of it before many moons ago but never seen the home console .
What a fantastic episode!
The Neo Geo looks really good. I always loved the animation of games like Neo Turfmasters and Metal Slug.
Bonus!
Great overview! You guys deserve much more subscribers and views than you're getting.
Game Sack has come so far. The best youtube video game channel right now.
I have a neo geo MVS machine and I love it!
Dat Overview/Intro Kicks Ass Dude! You Guys Rock Joe and Dave!
That intro though..... Joe, I think you scared me a bit! Lol
these games look better than games today.
As a 15 year old who loves Retro Games anf hates Fortnite and it's players.....
I AGREE WITH THAT
Did you forget to take your meds?
Nope.
I've watched this episode several times and it never fails to bring a huge goofy grin across my face
I would definitely watch a Game Sack documentary dedicated entirely to the AES. This episode I felt was way too short. Thank you again for the great coverage.
My guide to owning a Neo Geo:
1: Buy a Neo Geo
2: Buy Nam-1975
3: Solder Nam-1975 cartridge into cartridge slot(s)
4. Enjoy!
Great to see your take on the Neo Geo, but -"You need to make sure that you have at least ALL of the Metal Slugs if you have a Neo Geo" =D There are so many other cool games that you didn't cover, hope to see some of those in future videos.
+GadgetUK164
Agreed kind sir!
Too many popular titles that were left out. Maybe it was because of time.
+Puresox333
Yes, that's true. I try to be impartial and if a part 2 does exist later on, I'll gladly view their video!.
Thank you for the reply!
Anthony...
GadgetUK164 - Retro Gaming Repairs & Mods You can get away with playing MSX and not MS2 to be honest. What is there? Maybe 5% difference in them and MSX runs smoother as well.
You would need to be Bill Gates to own all of the Metal slugs.
@@bighands69 Correction: You would need to be Jeff Bezos to afford Metal Slug 5 alone.
that bit at the end..... awesome
Another Great show Dave and Joe, these were some great games, and this was a great trip through nostalgia.
Hey you forgot Last Resort, Soccer Brawl, Super Baseball 2020, Spin Master, Ninja Commando, Ninja Combat, Art of Fighting, King of Monsters, Alpha Mission II, Mutation Nation, Pulstar, Top Hunter Roddy & Cathy.
+ThumbdownMan They have covered a few of those titles in the past.
Hey Game Sack
Hey.
+Game Sack Can I get a ride home? Cars on the fritz again
heyitsme
I'll fax you some bus tokens.
+Game Sack thanks!
+Game Sack helping kids with bubonic plagues and faxing bus tokens to need viewers and spending Thanksgiving with me....you guys are the best...thank you GameSack
I like the humor you guys put in your videos!!!
Wow, this was the longest episode of Game Sack yet. 44:01 MEGA POWER! Great episode.
Hey, I know a place that has a Neo-Geo MVS with metal slug, samurai showdown and 2 others.
Blast Processing, CRY YOUR HEART OUT
One of your best episodes yet, congrats!
I never even knew the Neo geo existed back in the 90s. But I'm starting to get to know its games thanks to Retropie. Shock troopers and the Metal slug games are a blast to play and still look gorgeous with the scanlines filter enabled.
Your throat has to be sore after that intro Joe
Cody Reynolds yeah mate... told cody.
Love the suggestion to rent the dinosaur game from Blockbuster or Hollywood Video... sad that such a thing isn't possible anymore. :(
I didnt even know you could rent these games anywhere.
Are you sure you could rent the games?
@@bighands69 That was what the whole system was originally intended for - renting. Until SNK saw what people (well some) were ready to pay to own one...
@@Gunh3d1
But could games be easily rented from the likes of blockbusters. I just cannot remember.
6 years later and “get your hands off me” followed by that slap is still hilarious.
WOW! Now that's a real treat! 40+ mins of Game Sack!
I only recently got an AES with Magician Lord, World Heroes, and Samurai Spirits (also known as Showdown). Unfortunately, as I was rearranging my cables, I accidentally plugged the AES power supply into the Retron 5 and friend both the Retron 5 and the power adapter for my AES. Even worse luck, I didn't notice something was wrong until a minute or two AFTER I plugged it back into my AES. Since the adapter is $90, I have no way of knowing if I fried my AES as well. That was 2 weeks ago. I'm still pretty upset :(. I'm gonna go cry now.
Anyway, thanks for the video guys. Love your stuff. Keep up the good work!
Kzero did it die?
Mimi Grace Yep =\
the best 16bit homeconsole. i dreamt of this thing as a kid, while still being satisfied playing on my SNES.
+Nikola Dietmar Krapp
I also dreamed of owning one and bought one with my first paycheck. I owned one before I bought the Snes but it was really limited in that it only offered arcade games. No RPG or deeper action games. Just shallow great looking games.
Such an awesome episode. Thanks Joe and Dave.
Daaaaddeeeeeeeee~!
That was definitely your finest stop-motion piece yet, Joe - also a wonderful episode overall! I've always been curious about the Neo-Geo. Thanks for taking the time to tell us about it.
Lapsed Neo Geo addict here. First off, loved this episode. You chose some interesting titles, for sure :) I had a SNES back in the day and loved Street Fighter II but when I saw Samurai Shodown it just blew me away. From that moment I knew I had to have one. But then I saw the prices and that was the end of that. However, my prayers were answered (somewhat) when the Neo Geo CD was announced and the games prices were much more respectable (as long as you could put up with the loading times). I didn't care; I got a Neo Geo CD the day they were released in the UK and I loved it.
I did eventually move onto an AES. Got it from a store in London and the thing was kept behind a metal cage lol (Electronics Boutique used to have their retro section downstairs, if I remember correctly). Picked up one of the early King of the Fighters game with it (£100) and played the hell out of it. Picked up quite a few games for it via eBay and I'm glad I did; a lot of the games have rocketed up in price. This in turn led me to have a consolized-MVS made (a 1-Slot - yeah, I know, I know!). This meant I could play the Metal Slug games and other expensive titles. Also, there was something awesome about MVS carts. They often came battered and invariable condition but I loved the thought that they had been in some arcade machine and now, here I was, playing them at home :)
Seeing this episode brought back so many great memories for me. I want to get my AES/MVS out now because they are still boxed and hopefully working. Some of my favourite games included: Samurai Shodown, Viewpoint, World Heroes, Wind Jammers, Last Resort, Top Hunter, Metal Slug and Fatal Fury Special.
I could ramble on for a lot longer, but I won't :) HZ
Weenie System Lol! I love my MVS, and the games are priced pretty reasonable compared to the AES.
fantastic thanks guys its been a while but I was certain that your going to cover my favorite system of all time one day and what monster of an episode it was.
For me, the best episode you guys made, just super, thx alot !
Okay, anyone else besides me suddenly started hearing True Survivor playing in your head upon seeing Sengoku? I mean generic 80s dude-bro street fighter being whisked up to dimension of fallen heroes to become them....HOW MUCH MORE KUNG FURY CAN YOU GET!? LOL
Haha! You know what would rule? If Kung Fury had a Neo Geo game. It would HAVE to be a beat 'em up.
+theblocksays
Kung Fury is the best film I have watched this year. The first thing I did after I watched it was --- watch it again.
+Game Sack There *IS* a Kung Fury beat 'em up! Granted, it's sadly not on Neo Geo, but still.
Sengoku 3 is one of the best beat em ups ever made. If you are rich or frivolous with your paychecks I would highly recommend it!
Too bad you didn't cover SVC Chaos SNK Vs Capcom
Tien_Gouki make a full time job if you wanna buy expensive neo geo.
Awesome episode! I've got an MVS 4 Slot machine and 9 games and I absolutely love it.
brilliant episode as usual. thanks for finally doing this one!
this segment cost me alot of money
*a lot
Two words, not one. Think of it like this: a few, a little, a bunch, a whole bunch, a lot, a whole lot.
"this would be a good game to find in your grandma's attic after she dies"
+Derek TechnoSqueek
The humor is the reason why Game Sack is my favorite RUclips channel. If you haven't seen their "very WTF" episode, go watch it now and you will laugh until you cry.
+Jesus Zamora the most BASED grandma ever?
Thanks for the entertainment GameSack, it's appreciated!
That last part was hilarious. Keep up the good work!