The F1 World Champion Problem
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- Опубликовано: 20 май 2024
- The F1 World Champion Problem
F1 needs to be more competitive, maybe my take here is wrong with Max Verstappen probably being so good that he destroys the competition, and not because of the regulations. But who knows, we'll never truly know how drivers compare to each other without equal machinery all around. Maybe Charles Leclerc will be just as good as Fernando Alonso if put in a Ferrari. And maybe Lewis Hamilton is as good as Lando Norris. There's no telling but as of now, but with the era's of Mercedes and Red Bull domination, there needs to be a change to opt for more competitiveness. Talents in Formula 1 might miss out on so many opportunities to shine because of the regulations which aren't promoting better and fairer competition. I don't know how to find that solution though, that's up to the FIA..
This video's thumbnail was hugely inspired by a video called the UFC double champ problem, I really liked it and I thought it would be perfect for this video.
Unfortunately missed out on the opportunity to make the outro of this video the dutch anthem 💀
Also thank you guys so much for last video's support ❤❤
If you wanted to make it really funny you should've used the US anthem.
LH dominated alonso in the same car in his rookies season lol... When LH was at his least experienced and weakest form he beat alonso who was a 2 time world champ at the time. So its not really dick riding its more the simple fact LH has been quicker than alonso since the first minute in the first race of his career. Nothing to do with titles lol.
@@hebisty4163 : Dominated? They were equal on points while McLaren favoured Hamilton.
Ok but why is there an unused video at the end?
@@hebisty4163 Hamilton spent his whole childhood learning the 2007 McLaren in preseason 💀
"we were racing i was faster i passed him i won" vettel... best description of what racing is and should be.. it's not a let's give everyone a turn at winning game.
Yup, totally get that. Max might be winning right now because he might be the best, but theres no telling whos better than who unless we put people in equal machinery, which isnt possible. So we'll have to rely on the regulations for the cars to run closer to each other. Not to give people their "turns".
@@RicksF1Addiction sim racing can be theoretically (if no one uses cheats) equal racing. IROC was some of the most boring races ever which is why it didnt last.
@@RicksF1Addictioneveryone besides him is really close and competitive. I think checo struggling with the car is a sign that the rb19 isn’t as good as most people think. It’s just tuned to max’s racing style. Ferrari would have a shot if they didn’t mess up their strategy every race. Merc needs a Toto recall. They are too arrogant adapt their car. McLaren found developed their car to be competitive by the end of the season. Piastri will probably take a massive step forward next season. I wouldn’t be surprised if they of all teams end up competing against Red Bull. Especially if checo keeps struggling and max is the only one scoring points for the first half of the season.
Beautiful quote
Spec racing is boring. I watch the F2 races, but I'm just about the only one of me friends who does, and we've all been F1 fans for decades.
The RBR isn't designed around Max's preferred style, its fast because he has the skill to get all the performance its capable of delivering. Put any other driver in the Red Bull, and RBR, McLaren, Ferrari and Mercedes would be swapping wins. Max is the outlier.
I think the fans expect too much from what’s basically a huge engineering contest
If you want more winners then watch spec series such as indycar or the many series such as porsche cup, ferrari cup, Lamborghini super trofeo, miata racing. Or go into sportcars with lmh and lmdh. F1 is fine as is, we arent always going to have multiple teams winning races because at its principle thats not what f1 is, its about the one team that got the interpretation of the rules correct and due to that sometimes itll be very predictable.
I agree, I love F1 as it’s the closest to a “normal sport” as you can get with motor sports in the way it is broadcasted. Porsche Cup, MX5 Cup, GTWC, IMSA, WEC, etc. are super fun to watch because it is always much closer. People need to look into other racing series if they want close racing. There is more to F1 than just the racing, the technical development side of it is just as amazing imo.
Agree. Most of the commentators on F1 videos focus on the drivers without realising F1 always was and is a constructors series
Finally, someone said it right. The sad thing is these guys do not get the credit they deserve. If wasn't for Newey, we'd still see Max as we see Tsunoda.
@sultanoftippoo3857 certainly not always, there as been a time were the pilot did most of the job and then it got gradually leaning more towards engineering rather than human skill
People forget F1 isn’t all about the driver, it’s about the manufacturing teams as well, it’s about who can make the better car. Obviously the place you get in the constructors matters as to how much money you are allowed to spend, but the teams this season did not make a car that can compete. Many people(especially new fans) don’t understand that and will just shit on verstappen and rebull.
ye exactly they seem to say "so and so driver only wins because they have the best car" but fail to understand that they have the best car because theyre such a good driver. This applies both max and lewis and for some reason people cant just appreciate how good the drivers are without hating on one of them
Exactly!!
i was just about to type the same shit but yeah it always was about the cars from the start
Omg shut up, you lost me. Shut it
F1 is first and foremost a constructors championship. Always has been. People cry, let them. That doesn’t change reality
It’s funny because in theory, the cost cap was supposed to level out the playing field, but it really showed how inefficient with money some teams are 😂
… and then forces them to adapt which is the nature of f1 constructors so I guess it’s good 🤷♂️ maybe? Hopefully
@@zesty_fish2501 I love the cost cap personally, it provides less excuses for poor performance
@@ryanho6975 Absolutely, however it is complicated but we know that at least the top 3 paid employees (technical directors, team principal, etc) have salaries that are exempt from the cost cap. This means that other teams can offer enormous salaries to other executives in an attempt to poach staff like Aston Martin has done with that one redbull design expert (not newey, his name is dan fallows). small teams may not be able to do this and also look at Aston's new multi million dollar factory. It is clear that the teams with money can still spend and spend and spend outside of the cost cap whereas the small teams still can't afford that. It helps yes, but having money still proves a very very large advantage (the irony is now that you mention it and i'm typing this, yeah there is absolutely no excuse for aston to have fell off so badly in 2nd half 2023 with their resources.) poor alonso been waiting decades on the 3rd trophy :(
it does level the plane field if you doesnt count red bull and only count aston, mclaren, ferrari and merc. Adrian Newey's aero package is just too good
@@JulianTung083
Who didnt count all of them. The speed and level of the cars proved, that Red Bull got the best engineers clearly and it shows in the F1 races.
Not sure why you keep saying Leclerc deserves a world title. He deserves a car that can battle for the title for an entire season, then he can prove whether or not he actually deserves it.
Exactly.
By your logic no one deserves it. It’s all hard work. Don’t take the video so literal
Over a full season I don’t think Leclerc can win a championship. But who knows, Stranger Things have happened 😊
@@thegreatafrican3367You stupidly think that leclerc will have to go against verstappen in a championship,what if the ferrari is dominant,he would win easily and he can also challenge verstappen for a title,whether he beats him or not is a different question
Alonso almost took a crappy Ferrari to a championship 12 years ago, so "its all about the car and not the driver" argument doesn't stand always
Yuki and Albon being marked as future world champions is insane at this point. Sure Yuki is pretty good and has a lot of room to grow, but there’s a lot he has to do to catch up to the Verstappens, Leclerc’s, and Norris’s of the world (obviously, Fernando and Lewis are in this category too, but Yuki’s closer in age to the previous three mentioned). Albon’s good, and he’s bringing Williams up the ladder with him, but it doesn’t seem like he’s ready to challenge for wins much less a title
Yuki aint growing that much in alpha tauri. personally i think if he doesn't get a big move done in next 2-3 years his career may end at midfield.
Im totally convinced that Albon is able to challenge for wins if he has a car at the front.
But even i, as a Williams fan who would start a fightfor Albono (not really, bht you get what i mean), i dont see him as a potential world champion.
@@aniketmukherjee5692
I dont think Yuki is just good enough to make it into top team. Fernando Alonso should have sign contract on top team, if he wanted title winning chance, when instead his hanging with Aston Martin, that is not part of the top three teams, so I dont think he can win the championship then.
@@jout738 I dont think any top 3 team wants to sign fernando right now because of his age, they will have to start looking for another replacement again since he will not be long term
2:54
If we count Brawn as Mercedes, F1 has had only 2 winning teams in the past *15* seasons.
if we strictly count merc and rb its 14 haha
brawn gp is technically the most sucessfull team ever, they never lost a constructor title :) 100% win
@@RsSh0ck Technically that makes Markus Winkelhock statistically the best and worst driver of all time, too. As he started his only race last, led his only race, restarted his only race first after the downpour and then retired from his only race. But certainly, the 100% of races led percentage can only be tied, not surpassed. ;)
19 of the last 24 seasons have been won by.... 4 drivers. Before Max in 2021 it was 3 drivers winning 16 of 21 seasons. The 21 seasons prior to that.... 12 different drivers winning the crown. There's 0 parity in F1 anymore.
The FIA didn’t get the regulations wrong, bar Red Bull, the field spread has been closer than ever. It’s up to the other teams to catch up.
No Redbull got away with cheating because of there lies
Well said
Redbull got there maths wrong and got a bit carried away with there high life spending sprees 🍷🍺🍗🍗🍗🍲🥂🍸🫖🍮🍜🍝🎂🍩
When you can't meaningfully innovate, you simply cannot catch up. The other teams will develop but so will RB. They nailed the rules initially so now their domination is almost guaranteed until the rules change again. Right now FIA dictates very strict rules in which nobody can really come up with something new and creative, and as soon as they do the other teams immediately lobby to shut it down. F1 is a joke now.
Exactly. Get rid of Verstappen and it was a really good season! They need to dramatically increase the amount of development time/money the lower teams are allowed throughout the season to help them be more competitive
You can t blame RB engineers because Ferrari, Mercedes, Mc Laren didn t do their job. This is F1. This is F1 being F1. That s why you need FIA to make the needed adjustments.
It was Merc in the hybrid Era, and now RB the last 3 years in the dirty air, DRS era.
The Mercedes Era was ALSO the 'dirty air'-era when cars could only hope to pass each other with DRS. This problem was significantly reduced with the new regulations, although of course it was then partly undone by Technical Directive demanded by Toto Wolff/Mercedes during the 2022 season, which ended up hurting everybody but Red Bull (and particularly Ferrari).
@@JaneFokster Misinformation. The TD was from the FIA not Toto or Mercedes and it was to stop the flexible floor exploit that was against regulation ANYWAY, so don't blame Toto for something he had no part in. It also only hurt Ferrari because they were the only ones using the flexi-floor. That's their own wrongdoing and they got punished for it. So stop lying please.
@@dianamaioru497 Of course it was the FIA who issued the TD, but Mercedes where crying for it the loudest, because they couldn't get the porpoising under control and didn't want to change their f*ing car. We've all seen the clip. We've got it printed out, you may say. Don't kid yourself.
you didn't watch the whole video if you commented this, no ones blaming anyone in this video
@@dianamaioru497They're talking about the ride height TD my dude. Mercedes demanded a TD to help with their porpoising and that undid some of the clean air regs.
People seem to forget how much reliability used to be an issue in the old days(80's, 90's). And ironically, stricter rules actually creates the situation where one team can dominate.
Because if a team figures out the winning formula under the rules, the other teams are going to be trying to catch up to them, while they continue to refine and develop the concepts they came up with.
I think the stricter rules should have been with more even money spent on every team after the season, so the other teams could also get nearly as good car to have chance to even compete. Was there some other stricter rules, that gave Red Bull opportunity to dominate then, when every other team is playing catchup on the Red Bull car.
@@jout738 Per the current rules, Redbull has to make due with less money and CFD/Wind Tunnel time than every other team.
its so funny when people think that fia meant more teams winning by saying closser racing, they mean that the cars can physically race closer by reducing the dirty air the cars produce behind them
EXACTLY!!!
They also quite literally closed the gap from front to end of the grid.
Gone are the days where P10 and P9 in the constructors are several percentage points away from P1.
@@LiftandCoa
Still the points drivers get dosent seem that even, when one driver got 575 points to win the F1 championship.
@@LiftandCoaStill, if they have no opportunity to fight at the front, it's completely useless. It even makes races more boring, as racing gets even more monotonous
There is no world champion problem in F1, this sport has and always will be an area where the greatest drivers can duke it out to become the best of the best.
Just because you are talented within this sport, doesn't automatically give you the right to become world champion!
It is also just as much a stage for the greatest engineering minds to express their creative abilities.
When these factors come together that is where greatness lives. It requires the individual and the team behind them to all perform to the highest degree. It is unfortunate that talented drivers arguably aren't as successful as they "should be" but that is how the sport works. Everyone who's involved understands this.
If you care about good drivers getting recognition, stop watching F1 and go watch F2, F3, F4, Formula Academy and Formula E. So many options to choose from that all have equal cars, with the clear intention of discovering the who the best driver is.
Stop trying to change a sport because it doesn't confirm with societies, "everyone is a winner" bullshit!
Well said!!!!!!
This 👌
Dude regardless of what you say shit is unbalanced af to the point that it’s broken. The game needs to be patched and it’s apparent.
Keep up the same argument when others are dominating too then
Seen a lot of RB fans justifying the current domination while the same bunch was complaining about it few years back
PS: I know the sport has always been like that but I hate when people justify their favourite team's domination but cry when others do it
N all this proves that the GOAT debate in F1 will always be pointless...coz sometimes a great driver might not have the best luck(and the best car) and win almost nothing at all(Alonso for example and even Leclerc)
Of course the fanboys are going to intentionally misinterpret the argument. The argument isn't "Everybody deserves a medal", the argument is "Any sport is better with closer competition".
I think you're forgetting the important difference between close racing and close championship fights. These regulations were designed to make car-to-car racing easier, not to make championships closer. New regulations almost always have 1 or 2 teams that figured it out better than everyone else, and the rest has to catch up over the span of a couple seasons. 2022 changes? Ferrari and Red Bull. 2017 changes? Mercedes. 2014 changes? Mercedes. 2010 changes? Red Bull was most consistent.
WELL SAID!!!
Yeah also it's kinda dumb to blame FIA when they've done their parts to improve racing when the teams are incompetent to build a good enough race car
This years dominance is due to a number of factors. Most importantly that many teams missed the ball in developement. I reccon they will make big improvements this year and Max won't be as dominant. He will still dominate though :P
Verstappen also didn’t fuck up at all. You could always relay on Hamilton and Vettel to do something dumb at some point.
Yuki is great but…he’s not future WDC material 😂
How to learn Dutch anthem without learning Dutch anthem?
Max Verstappen: Hold my RB19🍺
Do yourself a favor and don’t take any “teamLH” serious who try and talk real shit on Fernando. Real Lewis fans respect Fernando and know how talented he really is.
the racing is closer and better amongst the field (apart from red bull). Its really a case of redbull being insanely good and no other team being good enough to match them. Its difficult to fix as well cuz u cant nerf redbull to the level of the other teams but you cant buff everyone else to redbulls level otherwise that gets rid of the whole technical aspect of f1. Otherwise f1 just turns into any other form of mindless entertainment. I suppose they could introduce technical regulations every few years rather than every like 6 years for more competition but that didnt work during the mercedes dominance. Its a big problem and a really difficult solution.
You mean the Red Bull in Max’ hands is insanely good. Checo is racing back with the rest of ‘em. But I guess it’s just the car…
@@abel6846 yeah car paired with driver is destructive. Checo clearly is not able to gel with the red bull unlike max.
The problem with the current regs are that so much of the cars are becoming equalized between teams for cost staving or sustainability reasons that aero is really the only area of development anymore and with the cost cap on top of that it just makes it nearly impossible to catch up. It has definitely worked as intended for making close following and wheel to wheel racing better but they are far too restrictive overall in my opinion.
Now that we have seen the new Red Bull car take visual cues from last year's merc and have their own zero pod concept rumored it's clear they are just so far ahead that even copying them is no good because they have explored all the limits.
I don't get the point of this video ? Alonso, Hamilton and Verstappen want to win championships and that's somehow a problem ? All 20 drivers in the grid since the start of this sport have always wanted to win the championship. How is that a problem? 🤔
I think the core idea was that due to limited titles, points etc. the resulting stats don't properly reflect each driver's skill, and that seems unfair to OP. I mean, it is, in a way, but there's just no way around it.
@@sebastianahrens2385How is it unfair that you dont have a gazillion race wins when you dont win a gazillion races?
From 2015 to 2019 it was always merc, Redbull and Ferrari but over the last few years the grid has closed up and with the budget coming in a couple years ago the field will close up
I've been hearing promises of closer competition for 10+ years now and is hasn't happened other than that 1 banger season of 2021. I'll believe the field gets closer when I see it.
@@recarsionthen watch the season, bar RedBull the grid is as close as its ever been.
@@BudgetLatifi that's well and all, but I honestly don't care about the mid-field. I want to see good title fights and other than 2021 F1 has not been delivering that for ages.
@@recarsion I don’t care tbh, you asked for closer competition, not closer title fights, you got what you asked for.
@BudgetLatifi That's not close competition if the only close racing is in 10th
In sport no one deserves to win anything, you earn your win.
Regarding the new regulations discussed around 4:10, the regulations did improve closer racing. Following and thus overtaking is much easier than before. This also means that it is easier for a top car that ended up in the middle of the pack for whatever reason to overtake their way to the front. In the previous regs, if the top cars were unlucky, it was much harder to win the race anyways. The gaps between the cars are much closer now, but seem further because you rarely get 'stuck' behind a much slower car anymore (unless you're Perez at Brazil I guess)
Idk if you know what the word "deserves" means... for example, you can argue Leclerc is talented enough to win a WDC but that doesn't mean he deserves to?
I think he meant he deserves to compete for the title
Not until he stops throwing it into the barrier every 5th race
Great video! I'm a verstappen fan (even some of us want to see other people win, too). Max has said in interviews that the amount of Records he breaks does not matter to him.
Thanks! Good to know that max isnt too obsessed with records. But theres no denying that red bull and jos definitely want him to go down as one of the most sucessful drivers in history. 🙌
While he has said that multiple times, his actions were to plan a sub optimal strategy with his team for the final race in Abu Dhabi to maximise the chance of leading a 1000+ laps in a season. Granted, there was nothing at stake anymore, but still.
I think the way they’ve done this is kind of hard, If you look at it from a constructors point of view then it makes total sense, Redbulls out in front because they’ve literally put the most money into their car and hence made a really good car, however once you add drivers into the mix it does become very hard to balance as you can have a very competent driver like Lando and put them in a Hass and they probably wouldn’t fair very well. In the end if you want to make it fair for the drivers make same spec cars but then that gets rid of the constructors part of the championship essentially wiping out half of the competition. It’s always going to be a challenge to balance raw talent with constructors who have varying budgets and varying amounts of qualified people to make the best car possible which doesn’t always end up happening.
1. Charles will never be a serious contender for a WDC
2. Everybody in the F1 community seriously downplays Max’s performance (Max prime > Lewis prime)
3. The way to solve this domination issue, is to open up competition NOT clamp down with regulation. Remove the cost cap, open up the rule book (DAS was an innovation that should have caught on) & mandate each team have a unique engine manufacturer + more bespoke or in house designed elements + adopt an “efficiency” mantra, not a “sustainability” mantra.
5. A WDC is won over the course of a season, not on the last lap of the last race. If you are in that position, you put yourself at the mercy of the racing gods, of which happened to bless MV on that day, through Gods son himself, Michael Masi.
6. I’ve never heard anybody, anywhere, ever mention Yuki Tsunoda as a future WDC.
7. I like your videos and have subscribed. Keep up the great work brother.
Historically the cars haven't been closer than last season. I really think we are seeing a once in a lifetime talent at work! Max is just levels above the rest, breaking records from the fifties and sixties and that in an era where there is only a couple of tenth per lap between the cars. In the Senna and Prost 88 season, there were seconds between the rest of the field, and we all think of them as the greatest. In my lifetime I have not seen a talented driver as Max is. It is scary how good he is and will dominate for some time, as he is only 26 years old!
The amount of drivers and manufacturers that were battling for 2nd and 3rd last season completely underlines this point.
This is factually untrue but ok,
Considering that leclerc,Hamilton,norris are all as fast as him
@@mesh8349 fact is they could sometimes out qualify Max, but none of them won a race!
@@mesh8349 yes only that the team failed to provide these drivers with the necessary equipment
The cars from 2021 couldn’t race closer but we had arguably the best wdc ever that year. These new cars can def race closer (ie Singapore) it’s just that Adrian Newey showed every team up by a mile. The other teams just have to do better period.
I wonder if the cost cap has increased the influence of having geniuses like Newey in your team. Back in the day teams like Ferrari and Mercedes could just throw money at the problem to come up with the best possible design. In 2008, Honda brought three entirely different design philosophies to the stage of wind tunnel testing, the best of which would become the championship winning BrawnGP. That is impossible today.
I am very much in favour of the cost cap. It helps the smaller teams close the gap and become more competitive. But it may also make it harder for Ferrari and Mercedes to compete with whatever Newey comes up with.
I think Peter Brook has potentially hit the nail on the head with his take that the technical regulations have, if anything, become too restrictive. Essentially, the driver's and constructor's titles have as of late been won by the teams that best understood the principal car concept as dictated by the regulations (e.g. the RB18 & RB19 have the best mechanical platform for exploiting ground effect). Perhaps if they were opened up somewhat, we could see teams trying different approaches that could all take wins across a season - e.g. some teams going for ground effect, some teams using exhaust-blown diffusers, maybe even some teams going back to active suspension should the cost cap allow it!
As a leclerc fan it’s sad how leclerc won’t get a title soon even if his race pace is as good as maxes
His race pace isn’t as good as Max’….
Leclerc isn't close to max let's be real, no one on the grid is.
Max, Hamilton, Alonso, leclerc is the order
Lets be real the racing was actually really close if we just exclude redbull. So i wouldnt say that the regulations are the problem if youbreally wanted eauality or just giving everyone a chance they could just add the systhem of adding weight like on gt3 cars
Don’t even need to exclude RedBull just max
If they make the cars the same, we'll still be listening to the Dutch anthem every week
nope, Monaco and Canada come to mind as Alonso winning races
least delusional max fan
We already do :(
Max is one hell of a driver but with equal cars a guy like Fernando can still give it a go. Ofc lets not forget Lewis or the Ferrari boys
Whenever someone compares the regulations from 2021, and then 2023, you do realise that 2021 was the 8th year of those style of regs, and even then, racing wasn't as close. Give the regs their time to flesh out, we're in the 2nd year, Merc didn't have competition until 2017, the 4th year. Not saying it will take that long again, but it's not an 'immediate change to quality of racing". We are getting better racing, but give it until 2025, maybe see what 2026 is like before we talk about if the regs are good or bad imo.
You're edging towards it being a spec series at that point, which would be good for seeing who the true best is, but F1 isn't 100% about the driver. It's about being the fastest car in the world, building the perfect machinery. If we want an extra 'F1' branded spec series kind of series during the off season (or less F1 races, with an equal amount of 'F1 spec series' races, I'm down for that. But we shouldn't push too close to the 'small amount of rules to tighten up the racing' side, because the whole point of F1 is the pinnacle of motorsport, literally. This is what the sport is like a lot of the time. I'm sorry if you're new, or don't quite get it, but this is what F1 is. Either learn to love it like we do, or it's not for you. Not gatekeeping, but we don't need to sacrifice the heart and soul of F1 just for better racing. There's other series that do well enough, go watch that. Don't dilute the unique aspect of F1 for the sake of entertainment.
Well said!
Hahaha, I bet you wouldn't touch this subject if the Worldchampion never competed and Hamilton would have continued collecting WC's.
He would have 10! now. And still continue.
They way you put away Rosberg and Verstappen, let's me feel the abundance of tears that are still flowing after all these years.
I feel sorry for you.
he literally criticised lewis multiple times
love this keep up the good work, maybe you can mess with the settings a bit to have less echo in your audio, but the ideas and the jokes are top tier
I'm a new fan and so in the off season, I have started watching for 2005-2021, I started watching in 22. I tell you what those races did somewhat get close at the front, but overall the front runners are lapping people halfway up the grid. Its definitely getting closer and the cost cap will do its job over time, I'd rally for a progressive cost cap to allow the lower teams to get a higher ceiling for spending but the one we have should work. The issue I think is how much more technical it is now, were measuring smaller and smaller gains in speed, with computers getting better the ability for people to catch in design is harder. The cost cap is a good idea, I wouldn't want see a spec series, I think ideally what you want is everyone close in different looking cars. The stats are cool but going back and watching it you can admire the talent more, like for me in 05 Massa is such a great driver and Montoya I love, but they have so little wins when you compare to the uber talent of Hamilton, Alonso, Verstappen and Schumi, it's like this across sports. The only thing we can hope for is a closer grid.
A spec series at the same level as F1 would be awesome to see. I think that would provide a top level competition that focuses more on the drivers' abilities. What's interesting to me, and ironic, is that the lower classes are spec, and the winners of those classes then make their way into F1, which relies heavily on the team's ability to build a fast car. Imo that puts F1 in a completely separate category, not because it's the highest level but because the role the teams play (including the drivers) are different
Muricans are furious with you right now because they literally have a world class open wheeler spec series
Maybe there is a reason why its not as watched?
I don't see there any reason why we should tighten up the regulations. We really want innovation, and that is what f1 is at its best. I'm already very irritated by the fact that name brands like Ferrari and Renault have to use them same DeLara chassis in F2. We don't want that in F1. Formula -series should all be about constructors.
No one was saying when Mercedes were introducing their innovations. Everyone begged and cried for it to stop Lewis, which in the end it took corrupt race officials to do.
It's sad how hypocritical and biased F1 is.
The 2022 regulations did not backfire actually, Newey being the genius he is just created a rocket ship. The teams behind Red Bull were actually more close between them.
Well said!!!
I think the regs worked as intended but the cost cap makes things too restrictive and there isn't much room for development outside of aero anymore. Newey is definitely the best aerodynamicist and they are winning off of his merit, I'd just like to see more opportunities for teams to counter him. Just like the last set of regs were far to heavily biased towards optimizing the new hybrid engines that once merc came out so far ahead it was pretty much hopeless for anyone else for an entire generation of rules.
the red bull car superiority argument is always funny to me.
look at sergio perez and see how well he does in the same car. look how closely the ferraris qualify with max.
the difference IS max verstappen.
another big factor is the race strategy and pit team which red bull has the best of.
No the difference is heavier cheaper parts on Checos car
I agree the difference is Max with RBR’s current driver lineup.
Quite simply some drivers are able to adapt to maximising the potential from their car and some drivers can’t. Seb Vettel could, Mark Webber couldn’t, Max has, Sergio Perez hasn’t.
@@sultanoftippoo3857 And of course that bloody black fella
Exactly!!!!!
@@F1Guy-Guystop being delusional 😂 geez. The parts are all the same, the cars are the same, cos they cross use all parts…. They can’t have too many spare parts. Man, learn abt F1 and stop believing fake Yt vids
The fact 3 drivers have won every championship since 2010, aside only from 2016 speaks volumes
I kinda agree with you, the only thing is every rule change will create dominance. So if you are going for a regulation overhaul again then one team will come out the strongest. So I think it's better if the rules remain consistent. Also the budget cap is limiting the development making thar Mercedes and Ferrari now cannot catch up with Red Bull. However, if you look at the field as a whole the racing has never been closer it's just Max sticking out.
Split the season into 2, the first half have very similar/equal cars. This part of the season can determine the drivers championship. The second half of the season can transition into the engineering aspect and the teams can change their car like they would normally do in an F1 season, which is where they can fight for constructors.
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Obviously not, everyone knows that mate. It was just a fun suggestion that actually gives driver titles more value.@@lRedKill3r
I don't think that would happen because of the history of the constructors. But it would be fun to see a few races of that
Other top sports, even the non mechanical ones, have the same champion many times over. The best gear helps a ton but it isn’t the only determining factor. In the end it is the athlete’s outstanding ability. You see this pattern at Red Bull, Mercedes and Aston Martin.
Aston Martin 💀
The first thing to help F1 would be turn the Constructors championship into a team Championship and then you would see people like Lawrence Stroll run a second Mercedes garage and maybe Haas run a second Ferrari garage with 2 redbull teams and you start to get the teams into perspective for paddock work instead of trying to guess factory and paddock without really having a way to tell things apart.
Another simple change is that the calendar used to have tracks with varying requirements and sometimes teams would be really good in one type and bad in another, with Suzuka being a special "balanced" track of sorts. But now all Tilkedromes run basically the same corners and requirements in slightly different order or we get tracks that are to narrow for cars in current regulations.
The regulation change deff worked. The mid field is so mutch closer and the gap to the top isnt that big like the merc era where they would win by like 40 seconds every race. The reason why we had different winner is quz they made mistakes. Max didnt make a single mistake in the 2023 season exept for singapore
everyone should know the Dutch anthem by now :D
hopefully it will stay like this for a few years, started to hate the British anthem because of Lewis, thx dude
Loved the video, rare to find a RUclipsr with little to no bias, keep up the good work! 👍
Or you could just watch IndyCar.
Except our championship got dominated this year too.
It's completely normal that the gap between teams increases with new regulations. But this gap will close over time during the regulation period. This does not mean the 2022 rule changes did not work as intended or backfire.
WELL SAID!!!!
Formula is a car sport, not a drivers sport. I think people are forgetting that.
TBH i don't agree at all with you. I'm from Spain. Here football is king and some years the league has been 100% dominated by Real Madrid or by Barça. That is the case for almost all decent sports. If you're better you win. Having a better car, should make you win.
Turning F1 onto a "level playing field" is like saying "let's change competition by randomness". That doesn't make any sense.
The rest of the brands need to step up their game or asume they will fight for second place forever. That is how a sport works.
I think than at 4:13 the regulations havent failed as u can see therest of the pack So CLOSE together its just that One team has Worked out the new regs while No other team has.
I wonder if changing the point system to go from 20 to 1 linearly for all finishing positions would improve the situation
identical cars would definitely make the racing better, but it would remove the cool engineering and innovations, which i think would be a shame
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I'm surprised you didn't use the Qatar 2023 lap 1 incident as the clip at 1:45
Can Max choose to drive as a Belgian next year ? Just so that we have a new outro for F1 ?
Honestly, I'm okay with titles fights not being a repeat of 2021. Max can grab a couple more before he gets bored, Lewis deserves his 8th.
I just want to see the winner of the race more than appear on screen more than 3 times a race. A fight for the title would be too much to ask for. I just want to see different strategies and different cars that excel at different areas and fights for the wins at individual weekends.
RB has superior groundfloor and dominant suspension. You can’t nerve that, but stimulate teams to develop into that direction.
The driver competition and points allocation should not follow the teams one (based on finishing order). Over and above the finishing points, for drivers F1 should introduce skills based point systems that rewards e.g. more points for fastest race lap, best overtake, point for each number of position gained in a race, fasterst speed trap and a drag race style knockout session. The latter session will exploit start mistakes between two randomly selected cars in multiple rounds until the last two. The overall winner should gain 8 points.
Solution: “to change the rules so there’s closer competition”
Oh gee thanks 🙏 great insight.
And this isn’t the participation award where each driver gets a championship. Blame other constructors for not being at RB level
So like, as someone who knew about F1 before, but really only got into it in 2023, I just watch it mostly because I like to watch racing. There is an... interesting mentality around sports in general. Basically, if you aren't 1st place, no one even really cares or will remember who got second in the long run and 3rd wayy wayy less so. Each farther position you are down, people will remember you less (unless you are last in which case you are remembered for the wrong reasons).
The reality is, I think all of these drivers are giving nearly 100% to be at this level, and watching Yuki finishing in the points or Hulkenberg finishing 2nd in qualifying (for a while at least) can be just as exciting as watching Max break the consecutive wins record for me at least. Watching 20 of the top racers from most anywhere in the world compete is such an amazing thing to even see so the whole "same winner + not close championship = boring" mentality doesn't really diminish the sport (at least based on my 1 year of watching Max obliterate everything sacred and holy in the hall of fame lol)
The modifications to reduce turbulence were great since we saw closer racing, but the problem is that the engineers always find a way around the rules, it was inevitable
Your bit about Formula E was spot on btw 😂
F1 is the closest it's ever been with the current regulations. The issue is how close they are, not that they need to be even closer. If you go back to the 80's and 90's, when regulations were loose and the grid was separated by 5-6 secs, we had different winners and WDCs all the time. Right now, with how strict the rules are, if you are lucky enough to nail the regs you get to beat everyone because the other teams can't innovate enough within the rules.
The cost cap has only made this worse. While it has helped the backmarkers catch up, it keeps the top teams from changing their designs mid season and bringing upgrades every weekend. These are the best drivers in the world, the cars are the only thing really differentiating them from each other. We need restriction in the regulations, not more.
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I dunno, the technical regulations are already very strict and there is also the budget cap and the sliding scale wind tunnel test time to level up the playing field. What can you do when one of the teams has a walking wind tunnel in Adrian Newey 🤷♂️.
well , i think stucking by regulations as far as they can is the key for racing close look up to 2017-18 , ferrari can race against mercedes and then boom a rule change. look 2021 rbr and merc could race annnd book hole new era. i know its just unraceble because of the dirty air from the cars and even with this regulations engineers makes it worse but i think they should like we are facing the 2014 merc all over again
also i think you shouldve mentioned that the regulations actually pretty worked. if you look up to other dominance eras youre not going to see such a close margins in the qualify or races. we saw so much qualify sessions into a 1 second diff first to last car and also if you didnt think about who won the race, there was so much competition for podiums. weve seen fair amount close racing on teams other than redbull.
I get the frustration with drivers dominating but F1 is and always has been primarily an engineering competition that is decided by motor races. The new regs are a perfect example of this, they have been progressively restricting the areas designers can play around with, engines are frozen and are more or less spec at this point being all within a few percentage of each other. However, they also emphasize aero more than ever in the effort to cut on dirty air. I would say these regs succeeded in that, cars have been able to follow close for multiple laps and there have been epic battles throughout the grid that dont get the proper attention because they werent for wins.
It also happens to be that the one area that still allows for radical design differences is aero and RB have by far the best aerodynamicist who has been pushing the boundaries of ground effect his entire career. They nailed it from the start and are so far ahead of the other teams with iterating on their concept that the advantage is truly locked in until they either decide to loosen other areas of the regs or become a spec series and ruin the soul of what makes F1 different than other motorsports.
Also Max is still a really good driver and in perfect sync with his engineers on giving the car a setup that suits his style
I think racing has gotten closer, fights are more interesting, cars can stay behind, close behind each other for more than one lap. i remember like from 2018 to 2021 drivers needed to back out after one lap because the car was way to hot, now they can keep up for a lot longer. But somehow RB's gap has increased by a mile
i think the problem is "Deserves" a world title.
I've played the lotto for 25 years. Do i deserve a jackpot?
Lots of people do a lot of things and don't get what they deserve (both positive and negative) Such is life my man.
The midfield race is going to be awesome.
The real main problem I see is that if some team gets the new regulations wrong at the beginning of a regulation era, then they are screwed.
And in 2022, only Red Bull understood it's assignment and everyone else totally screwed up .
And in 2023, except Red Bull, Ferrari and Aston, everyone got the new regulations wrong and went in a totally wrong direction.
Red Bull had a Kickstart with understanding the new regs miles better than others in 2022 due to Newey's suspension magic.. and this gave them a head start above everyone else.
Ferrari has been in upward trajectory in 2023, but they were stuck in their tire deg issues and their pitstops and strategies was the last straw to pull them down.
Aston Martin is something which had the right direction, and infact, everyone copied their waterslide concept later on. But they themselves somehow during the mid-season development totally screwed it up..
Everyone else is just playing catch-up and no one actually seems to have figured it out during the 2023 season except McLaren who had a backseat in first half and then catapulted to the front with one single upgrade.
However, Red Bull looks to be far from being complacent and is actually going the aggressive route in 2024 development, as they agree serious in their mission. Which is scary, but exciting, especially to see another engineering Marvel unveil infront of our eyes.
But no matter what, the rules and regulations in F1 favor only those who get the rules the right way and start their development earlier and this they'll always have the advantage over others no matter everyone is improving.
But at least in 2022, I think the new regulations is not the culprit, but Red Bull did their job well and others totally screwed up.
If this compounding effect of headstart advantage to those teams that get the new regs right at the beginning of the new era, is addressed, then F1 might become more competitive and exciting.
I'm still enjoying this as seeing a talented driver in a incredibly great machinery push it beyond it's limits to dominate everyone is on itself has it's charm, but that alone is not the only thing that should happen in F1.
And I hope Alonso genuinely gets a chance to fight for a title before he retires.. and may be even win !
Strict regulation only helps the ones with bigger budget, because it cuts the possibility of low budget teams to innovate and get an edge.
The field is crazy close, minus RB. Just look at the point spread between the next four teams. Adrian's just built different.
Exactly
That’s the problem. The rest of the field is super close and super competitive, but Red Bull is so dominant that it’s even worse than Mercedes dominance.
Mercedes built great cars but they weren’t infallible. Like the video mentioned, during the 2014-21 era Ricciardo and Verstappen managed to get wins during that time, Vettel and Raikkonen had wins. Outside of the big three teams, Gasly, Ocon, and Perez all got wins in underdog cars. Stroll managed a pole position. Kyvat, Norris, Grosjean, Magnussen, and Russell (rained out but still counts) got podiums.
In two years we’ve seen nothing of the sort from Red Bull. No proper underdogs snatching victory from the Goliaths. Dominance is fine, and a dynasty can be respected, but it’s not a dynasty unless it still cracks sometimes and eventually falls.
What you want would be fixed with equal machinery. What we have is . . what makes F1 great. No amount of regulations will make racing fair in this category unless you make everyone drive the same car. This competition is not only about the driving and the drivers, but it's also about the engineering behind the cars. And taking that away by regulating or completely dismissing it would ruin F1.
You can do this with every era of F1, when I read old articles and read "he is a WC material" and he achieved nothing. Every driver want to win, but many of them will fail, and it's not a problem
yeah you missed the point i think with this video.. the 2022 rule overhaul has and is getting the competition closer, it's just that RBR got the development so right and so early, combined that with the one of GOAT driver, rarely wrong strategy, quick pit stop, and the reliability of the car, it just makes the other teams fell so hard comparatively
3:29 The thing is, F1 does have close competition, just not for 1st place. There's always a dominating driver and the real competition happens in the midfield.
I don’t think it’s a valid point that just because we have one team winning means the regulations are bad. I think the regulations have made okay racing, kinda. The other teams just didn’t quite get it as good as Red Bull did
Really good video, gonna check out your others. However, you gotta get a new mic. The one you’re using has bad sound quality.
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What if all the drivers are divided into 10 pairs and get to drive for each constructor every two years or so.. just an opinion..
The field is more compressed than in prior seasons, the issue is that Red Bull and Max Verstappen are still fastest, so the competition hasn’t affected the championship.
I think you forgot the 2021 season. How much closer do you want it to be.
The fact there were more race winners pre Verstappen dominance isn't due to the new regulations but purely because of Verstappen having a proper car. The amount of winners there would be without Verstappen, would be immense.
I disagree with your take on the new regulations having failed. The whole point of the ground effect cars is to allow drivers to stay closer to each other without destroying their tyres. And for the most part, drivers are able to do that. And the overtaking over the last 2 years has improved. I remember seeing someone do an analysis of number of overtakes by circuit before and after new regulations.
The fact that the field spread is what it is isn't new. I haven't looked at numbers but I'm sure this is what happened with Mercedes in 2014-15 at the start of the hybrid era. Whenever there are new regulations, it takes time for the teams to converge on the fastest concept. It's now upto them, whether they can reduce that gap over the next 2 years before the next set of new regulations.
I also believe the cost cap will take an effect in the coming years and bring the midfield teams closer to the top. That's just me, I guess. *Fingers crossed*
Easy ways to improve the racing. Let the drivers have DRS whenever they want to use it. This would be a simple no extra cost way to improve the racing. Do away with the hard compound tires. Only provide soft tires. This way there would be more pit stops that change the race order more often.
During the Merc dominance Verstappen said something about his team needing to step up to challenge Mercedes and I think right now should be the same; other teams need to step up, not changing rules to nerf some teams and help others. It's a team/tech sport and the team we the best work, quality and talent wins. For a long time, without any budget cap, obviously the teams with the biggest investments won, f.e. Mercedes came with a gigantic bag of money to the sport that gave them 8 years of dominance, even bigger than the investment of RB during the Vettel era; right now we already balanced the sport a lot more than normal, it was a Verstappen dominance (losing at Baku awakened an inch perfect alien-like performance the rest of the year) but if we check the rest of the drivers and grid, it was very competitive year with McLaren, Aston, Mercedes and Ferrari trading their pace and spots a lot. We need to start appreciating the teams, not just the drivers.
My current take is that the rules are too restrictive and therefore there is no real potential for catching up. New rules -> one team nails the rules -> the others try to catch up and by the time they do, the rules are about to change again. This is how it's working now. Now I'm not saying there's something wrong with changing the rules to end a stale period, but for a racing series where engineering supposedly gets a big role, there is basically no innovation happening anymore, only finding the most miniature holes in the rules and trying to exploit them as long as possible before eventually it gets found out and the FIA shuts it down. Of course unlimited innovation leads to skyrocketing budgets and possibly stale racing, but now we're in the exact opposite scenario. Meanwhile we've been trying to increase the number of overtakes by all kinds of artificial measures for almost 15 years now... the priorities are completely messed up.
it looks like it's closer this year, maybe keeping the regulations the same and the budget cap can make the teams converge, we'll see
The issue is that there are not a lot of promising drivers to take over and that FIA plays favourites. It's good branding for them to have one driver who might become the best ever yet stopping him right before they do so the controversy stays up. The FIA also cannot be consistent with rulings which, due to them playing favourites.
i feel like thie video kind of just starts but doesn't actually end anywhere. Like, you cant blame the FIA and the regulations for the poor performance and bad choices of the other teams. They were meant to make following easier, not bring teams closer and that should have been pretty obvious. The budget cap is whats supposed to bring the teams closer but again, either they run the risk of having one or two teams figuring the regulations more than the others, or they have what would be pretty much a spec series
having stricter regulations wont even guarantee anything either. some of the years with the most competition had vastly different cars, and from the early 2000s to now, the period of time with the most strict rules ever in f1, we've already had 4 separate domination eras
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Decouple WDC from WCC. Make sure every driver has driven every car over a season. At the end of the season the best constructor wins because they built the best car and the best driver wins because he won in the most cars.
Random seat allocation or seat rotation!
lmfao
way to kill a sport
Yeah Leclerc wants a first WDC - guess what so does every other driver who has never won it. No need to single him out.
Imagine estabon ocon was teammates with yuki tsunoda
2023 was an amazingly close season, just not for first place
I think the best way to level the playing field is to start new F1-eras more frequently.
When each team has to build a completely new kind of car, it gives equal opportunity for all teams to innovate and be the first one to get the car design right.
This current turbo-hybrid V6 -era has been going on for too long in my opinion, and the changes planned for 2026 are not radical enough.
The 2026 rules are mostly same shit in different box. I'm exited about the active aerodynamics, but they could also allow active suspension and more freedom in designing the engines.
Turbo-hybrid F1 cars are huge, both in size and weight. Also, even my bicycle has better exhaust sounds.
The day will come when F1 has to return back to internal combustion as the primary powerplant.
I don't know when the time is right to do so, but F1 could eventually lose it's fanbase if too much entertainment value, and cool-factor is sacrificed in the name of fuel efficiency.
I totally get that focusing on these fuel efficiency and electric-drive shenanigans is very relevant and important in the face of climate change, but F1 is skating on thin ice right now.
There is no denying that these current and future turbo-hybrid F1 cars are not very exiting for anyone else than for the engineers building them.
Alonso's stats dont do him justice, specially because of ferrari and mclaren-honda 💀
Because of his own choices you mean...?? So yes they do him justice perfectly
He came so close to winning it all on 3 occasions:
-2007, one point behind Kimi, tied with Lewis on points, finished 3rd on podium countback.
-2010 finished 4 points behind Vettel
-2012 finished 3 points behind Vettel.
@@lazarushernandez5827but still lost. no ifs