how to FIX HOT MOTORS on your DRONES!
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Wow. I haven't seen the esc settings suggested before and it made a HUGE difference for my build. Thank you!
Thank you so much for this video!! Ive been cooking motor bearings all year from super hot motors. I changed my ESC settings and now theyre cool as fffffffff. Youre the man Willy!!!
DUDE! Thanks you so much for making this video! I literally just built my first quad about a week ago and I've been having such a crappy time trying to get it to fly even a little bit good. I was just about to flash back to BF 3.5.7 and then I saw this video. So Thanks again, I'm glad i'm not the only one having these issues.
I found most all hot motors come from not grounded properly make sure connector and cap have a super solid connection 90% of desyncs come from poor filtering
Nice & informative. I have never had a problem with hot motors but I recognized a long time ago my motors only got warm when the oscillations were bad & my props were ratty. A few days ago, my quad would take off on its own as soon as I armed it & the motors would be a little warm; the problem was that the props were three months old, floppy from rebends & unbalanced af. As soon as I replaced the props, everything was good. Then again, I use the Hobbywing G2 stack. It is rock solid & doesnt even need tuning. Cant wait to try out that Flightone FC. So glad you always insert a flight sequence. Thumbs up, buddy!
Thanks!! I was having hot motors and NOTHING I did would help... Messed with filters, PIDs, checked hardware, NOTHING.
After changing to 48khz PWM, turning Demag Compensation off, and autotiming for motors... MUCH BETTER. Still a little warm, but definitely fixable through filters and PIDs!
THANK YOU.
This hobby can be difficult to keep up with, so I really appreciate your informative videos. Thanks dude!!!
Best settings ever! Tested them and cold motors! Cold! Thank you sooo much!😊
Clear, short and insanely helpful. Thanks mate!
I lol'd at the beginning when the quad came right back down. That was some funny ish right there. lolol
Thank you! I have hot motors on my 9 inch quad and loads of oscillations and vibrations. Gonna try a few of these things and see what works. Thanks again, life saver!
Subbed for short but clear technical tipps and great as usual flying video ;-)
Always giving great tips! Thanks Mr Wild Willy sir!
Good stuff willy. Funny because I watch you a lot and have never commented. Thanks for being a big help in the FL1 community.
Wait a sec...a troubleshooting vid and flight footage...🔥🔥🔥...killin it👌🏻
Great tips mate, thanks. 😃👍In the whole time I have been flying fpv I never got hot motors. I'd hear all the stories about people getting hot motors until one day I updated my firmware on my fc and didn't notice my Ps in my PIDs were super high from the update. I'm glad I only hover tested it before I went out and ripped.
Number ONE! Fixed my plazma running hot motors by setting up the ESC in your way. Thanks dude!
i haven't even watched a min of this video yet but had to stop and comment LMFAO that intro was the best man ok back to watching
+1 on that intro dude. had to watch it frame by frame. cudos!
Haha I have to have something fun in the edit because chopping up just talking alone would drive me mad 😂
Love that intro!! 💥
Good timing on this video. I'm on a fresh build and motors were a little hotter than normal but no big deal. They actually cooled down going to 51466's which was surprising since they are more aggressive than DAL 5040c & S3's that I normally run. You reminded me that I always set my PWM to 48 and timing to auto but completely forgot. Also remember that your favorite prop may not be the best for a new motor, and though rare sometimes you can get a bad batch. Try different props too
Nice vid bro 👊 i do get hot motors sometimes , im so lazy and hardly hook it up to com and have a look . Lol ive learnt to fly with noise . Cheers bro 👊
OMG finally got my motors to run cool. Thank you @Wild Willy FPV. My cinewhoop was fine on 4S but fried motors on 6S. Those ESC settings has finally cooled the motors!
Please can you pass me the configuration for the cinewhoop.my engines are very hot
Upgraded my u580 with a flycolor 4n1 60a esc. After a 10 minute flight I averaged around 26-28 amp draw in flight on 4006/740kv motors with 11 inch props. The motors were hot to the touch for a good 5 minutes afterwards. Concerning hot. Changed the timing to auto, disabled dmag, and the pwm to 48 (highest available) and the next flight I was only drawing 18-20 amps average and it extended my flight time from 10 minutes to about 15. Not only were the motors basically ambient temp but the battery was cooler too. Appreciate the advice!
Sweet flight man.
How did you know I was having hot motor problems? Always on point Double Dub! Thanks for the tips and tricks! 🐬🐬🐬
Excellent tips & keeping this video for future reference. Super smooth flyin 🐬🐬
Great video Willy, you did a great job describing the issue and how to resolve it. I am going to try your technique. Do you do anything different with filters or esc timing when running 5 or 6 s packs rather than 4s?
I never changed anything, but that depends on your setup
Thanks for putting out this video. I recently switched to Flightone because I don't get a lot of time to fly and when I do I don't want to waste it on trying to tune betaflight. I'll be honest I suck at it and with betaflight constantly changing that didn't help my situation. I'm having a lot better experience with Flightone but my motors are a little warmer than I like. There is a huge lack of video content on the technical side of Flightone as compared to betaflight so I really appreciate when a good video like this drops. Great job!
Thanks for the tip been trying to solve the hot motors thing for two months yours was the first video to address blheli frickin awesome worked great thanks again, keep em coming
Hell yeah was hoping you would drop a video.
Perfect video, no nonsense guide. Cheers.
This helped so much! Thanks for this vid!
Motors feel like motors after a flight on a hot day. I can feel there is a little bit of heat but the last time I was flying I had to wait for a while because they were scalding. Thank you!
Nick's got the great info to share beyond the hot motors. You really help the community with your insight! I really want to leave a nasty comment like you ask, but I can't.. maybe someday
dude i needed this!! thanks! i feel like i just fly some times and done pay attention to any type of tune 😅
I recently had this issue. 6S / 7in build, all motors where getting VERY hot almost instantly after arming and going into a hover / mild flying. Would land about 30 seconds in and the motors where way too hot to even touch and smelled like they where burning! Tried all these steps and more and could not correct the issue. I was completely at a loss and getting very frustrated, I spent hours troubleshooting. I knew the build was configured right. For some reason I decided to switch the set of props out to a new but completely identical set. Boom! the issue disappeared like it was never there. I could not believe it. Turns out the set of props I was using, which was new btw, was defective and two out of the four props where total out of balance and super slightly deformed. You would never know by looking at each prop individually but stacking all on top of each other you could see the slight difference. Prop balancer also confirmed 2 of the 4 where out of balance. I could not believe that was the issue and had no idea out of balance props could cause that much havok to a quad. Now I'm concerned I significantly shortened the lifespan of my new motors and flight stack from the stress it apparently was going through dealing with the out of balance props.
always helping thanks for a awesome video again!!!!
Thanks!! This is literally the exact issue I'm having on my 6" lr build. Tried 3.5.4 all the way to 4.0.4 with no luck. My guess is esc settings. I'll let you know
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@@WillardFPV617 so awesome, love it! it was fun to make, and I'm still glad it made it to you in one piece! it's one of a kind!
Great vid? And love your Dolphin Frame!
Hey Nick, great video! I 100% agree on PWM Frequency to 48 KHz and Motor Timing on Auto, but setting Demag Compensation to Off might easily cause desyncs, especially on 6S. That might not happen for people who run only top notch hardware, but with cheaper ESCs and motors, it might be enough to make the quad fall out of the sky - it will fall from the sky with cool motors, but still. :) So carefull with that setting!
For everyone who has watched this and tried all of it, ESC settings, lower Gyro and D-Term Cutoff Frequencies, checked for long screws, lower D-Term on PIDs and so on, and STILL has problems with hot motors and a fluttery/shaky flying quad, try this: Take your props off (important!), put your quad on the bench and connect to Betaflight configurator, go to the motors tab, connect a lipo, check that "I know the risks"-button and then power up each motor individually. If one makes your quad vibrate on the bench a LOT more than the other motors, you might have a bent motor shaft and need to replace that motor. Sometimes it's very hard to see with the naked eye, but this test won't lie. If one motor vibrates a lot that will be practically impossible to filter out and all that noise goes into the PID loop and cook your motors, all of them. So if you have a bad motor, swap it out, before it kills all the others. :)
And one additional tip: You probably heard many folks say it's better to stick with Betaflight 3.51 for now and not upgrade to Betaflight 4 just yet, eh? Don't trust them, make up your own mind! :) I found filtering in Betaflight 4 to be MUCH better than before, so give it a chance, it's not that new anymore. ;)
Hmm I've been running 6S on 2700kv and cheap escs for a couple weeks, but I throttle cap it in FalcoX to keep the rpm down
@@WillardFPV617 I haven't tried FalcoX myself yet, but I hear good things about it! :) Do you cap your throttle or scale it? I scale mine on my CineWhoops and love that feature - scaling does the same thing as capping, but without losing stick resolution. :)
Actually, what I just said is not 100% correct, because while capping will not let you increase throttle above a certain point, all the stick travel above it is effectively useless, and scaling will scale whatever your throttle limit is over the full way of stick travel, so effectively it even increases your resolution on the limit you set. So scaling allows for finer adjustments, while capping has the benefit of keeping your muscle memory as is, since throttle percentages stay where they were on the stick before. :)
♥️ your editing 🔥
The best timed video ever .... just got new motors and they could be cooler
Thanks brother! The ESC adjustments fixed it for me.
Great tips, thanks WW🍻
Dude you're the best!!
very useful vid, not many like it, none this in depth thanks a lot!
Very informative stuff here - thank you!
Also just flying in this 110° F heat here in Texas you are just going to get hot motors period. If you can't grab your motors with your fingers and hold them tight for 2-3 seconds than they are too hot at which point you will smell the enamel burning off the coils.
So true!!
Having this problem right now. Can't tell if its my tune or the miserable weather
@@noahmcelwey2598 Probably a little of both.
Such great editing
Man thank you so much. You describe all my problems and these are definitely solutions.
That has to be the best flying skills I have ever seen super cool liked.
Absolutely awesome!!!😍😍😍😍
Great video,I’ve actually experienced to long of a screw touch the motor makes the kwad fly crappy 😂
Excellent,been trolling through YT videos looking for help on something similar with an old quad
build,where i messed with motor filters and after a few flights one ESC kept getting hot or burning out,
i did copy my old setup in Betaflight but for some strange reason i can't get it to except the old setup file,so i'll keep my fingers crossed and try your tips before i start from scratch,which is a new flight controller and ESC'S,which will be a pain in the A- - as it's a small carbon frame.
If it works i'll get back to you,hell ill back to you no matter what but it will be a few weeks,as we have just moved house and the missus has got me doing DIY and painting and so on lol,so my RC builds are on hold but not the flying,but don't tell her,as i sneak that in when she goes out for a few hours.😉😉
Thanks again man and much love and respect coming from another RC pilot in the UK.👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Thank you very much.
I am using RadioLink mini pix. I dropped the "D" and "FLT" values it fixed my motor heating issue.
Sick brotha
Great knowledge being shared with great flight? Like for sure. Thanks for sharing btw
I saw you post on IG saying follow this for Oscillations or Hot motors.. if I have a beat up quad that’s starting to get oscillations.. what adjustments could I do to make it fly better till parts arrive. Do these steps still apply? Beat up carbon and unbalanced motor are what I’m assuming are the problems
Huge thanks!!
Informative, high quality content. Have a like :)
Hey willy what is your all up weight of your quad.
I'm using the 2500kv 4s and its 645 with gopro feel its heavy what you think?
That's about what I'm at, I'm at 680g
Put that on a 5s and watch her scream! Make sure you have 6s equipment!! Lol
I’m doing everything you’re recommending in the video, and going to try this out hopefully this will fix it formme
Super flying
Thanks Willy! Can you do a spinfix video next. Lol
Totally off topic but what's the AUW with the hero 7 of your drone? Nice content 👍 as always 👌
680g I think
Would the esc settings things be an all of the sudden thing? My quad was fine then all of the sudden have problems where any amount of throttle cause major noise and is un flyable and motors are super hot
That sounds like its frame damage like an arm delaminated
Ima try that for sure. Reflashed the BlHeli_32s to stock and stuff and re did the Radix to the latest. Before it would tweak out after grazing something within 20 seconds and drop or, it would have a 1 Hz bounce back after pitch or roll part way through the flight and I had to baby it or it would get worse and land.
Thanks man!
I just made the ESC setting changes on my 3" Gecko. I haven't had a chance to fly it. (bad weather). Does your ESC recommendations work on 3" quads as well?
The weather finally cleared and I was able to put her in the air. I just wanted to report that with these ESC settings, I had no issues what-so-ever! Thanks.
Love this video, thank you! I tried upgrading my esc's like you said to do, and I am getting this wierd message, any idea what it means? It says "ESC 3: ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ16.6, ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ"
This is why I stick to my old ass beta flight. I’m on like 3.0.1. Where I still have dialed in pids and fly the same setup as always. I still caveman wire my esc’s and never use blheli. My quads always fly perfect. I stick with what works for me.
where can I turno on Dynamic AA? I can not found it, is in esc settings or on betaflight
you are the man!
Thank you!
... no bollocks, wft, i learned something today ....thx :-)
Thanks mate, you helped me cool down my motors (2514 AirB), but now my ESC is getting really hot. Like in 20 seconds of hovering it's too hot to touch. Its a Racerstar Metal V2 60A ESC on 6S. Any ideas?
the lazy method is just getting a blackbox log with both filtered and unfiltered gyro so you can see if its just a bad gyro or a filtering problem
It’s tough to keep temps down when your motors overheat before you even plug in... I’m sure you noticed when you were here in AZ for DRL 😂
Usually the esc settings fix my hot motors when i get them
Bro. I need help with my Dolphin1 / FalcoX build. I’m trying this process. And if it doesn’t work I’m gunna try a new FC because everything else is new
any tips here as my ESC shows a separate Min PWM and a separate High PWM. both currently at 24k
Thank dor the tips . But what exactly TEP that you called Hot motor? My motors are not hot i can touch them easily but they are little warm ....?
Do you have frame reordering on in Davinci?
Your last few videos have some odd compression artefacts going on -> 06:09
Yeah it's on auto, I've tried some custom ones to no avail, but I was just playing with random numbers
You're a hot motor. Lol
Hello! Where can i see and set these settings in Betaflight? PWM Frequency to 48 KHz, Motor Timing on Auto, Demag Compensation to Off. The motors on my Mobula 7 tiny whoop, specially the back motors gets very hot during flights. And i only fly it low and slow on angle mode only, running on 2s 450mah batteries. And i have checked them again and again, there's no shorts with the screw mounts touching the motor windings.
Please help.
Thanks!
I got a flight vid coming up with an ending id like you to see...how do i make that happen
Thank you for not assuming I drove screws into my motor.
What about the filter TYPE and AA. Would those also affect the hot motor fix. If so, in what way or which filter would coldest (probably alot less performance) medium heat (best performance) and hot but not burning (WILLARD JUICE).
You can change the filter types, but it gets a little more complicated in tuning so I would just leave the default filter types. I usually add a second biquad on d term though even though most stock tunes only have 1
PLEASE make a video on bounceback it would help so much 😁
Thank you very much 👍🙏❤️❤️🍻
hey i crashed my drone into a tree and it was left there in the rain for about 6 days, i replaced everything except for the FC and ive been getting extremly hot motors at hover ever since i rescured it; i didnt touch the pids or filters before the crash and my motors never got hot. is there a high chance that my gryo is just damaged? the drone is mechanically fine.
Thank you! Maybe you could tell us how to not get a hot gopro in the next vid 😅
super!
Just do the esc fix like you suggest and mine pretty hot motors now stay only slightly warm. I use Betaflight 4 with rpm filtering and there it working awesome to. Thank you!
Any explanation why demag compensation set to off???
I really wanted to do the first step but I have blheli_s esc's and can't find a way to change it there 🤷🏻♂️ is there a way?
For blheliS ESCs the default settings are fine!
Hi Wild Willy FPV, I just finished installing T motor F60 pros on my quad, i haven't flown with them yet but testing them on the bench using motors tab in betaflight i seem to be getting hot motors. Is it normal for them to get hot on the bench? I am running BLHeli 32 esc's and those settings yourecommend.
The motor temps don't matter on the bench and it's usually bad for the motors to keep them running for an extended time without load
What camera angle do you use? Seems that it is about to 15-20 degrees. I’m right?
Yeah 20deg
Damn, It's nice there there are videos under 40 minutes for this haha
I could honestly condense it to like 60 seconds if I had to 😂