Switching Tesla Model S Long Range for an MG5 - first impressions, efficiency and real range test.
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Well in the end I sold my amazing Tesla Model S Long Range that I previously completed the John O’Groats to Lands End challenge in. Will miss it but it was time to move it on.
In this episode I travel to meet the new owner, hand it over and then drive back in the part exchange car which is an MG5. A very practical family estate electric car.
Why don’t we see more estate (wagon) EVs???
I give my first impressions of it plus get my first measure of what it’s efficiency and real-world range actually is in mixed driving conditions.
Overall I’m very impressed indeed. A great value family electric car that deserves good praise indeed. I look forward to trying to facelift version coming out soon!
And I’ll also miss Nigel (the model S LR)
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I bought a pre registered pre facelift Mg5 Long range for £22k with 4 years free servicing. Had for nearly a year and have driven 12k miles commuting and my computer average since new is 4.2miles per kWh but I mostly drive eco mode kers3.
Charging at night for 8p per kWh using a granny cable and a timer socket so haven’t needed to install a 7kw charger yet. 2p per mile motoring 👍🏼
I got mine October 2021 for £24k. Pre Facelift LR Exclusive. Absolute bargain, and easily the best car I've owned.
An excellent "first impressions" review I feel. I have the original so-called short range version, in the lower trim Excite model, so don't have all of the bells and whistles, but even so I am very, very pleased with it. As you say, it is comfortable and drives well. Even with the smaller battery I am getting about 240 miles per charge with "sensible" driving in the summer, and at the moment (cold December) I am still getting about 210 miles.A quick look at Autotrader shows that this model is pulling about £20k second-hand, but since I paid only £24750 for mine, new, 15 months ago, I think that is a real bargain (not that am thinking of selling!!)
I would love to get 210 miles in my mg5 lr. In summer 250miles no problems but at the moment I’m around 180 miles. I do stay in Aberdeen where there is snow which doesn’t help. My daily commute to work in summer was over 4 and now it’s a little over 2.
Excellent first impresson might be, but driven it 10k miles in 3 months I would say I am not disappointed as my first impression of this car was: cheap chinese car, infotainment is a joke on Excite Satnav load up time over 2 minutes, after testing it never bothered with it, in this time all sorts of software issues one time car lit up as Christmas tree, friend changed his rental Mg5 3 times for issues like HV Battety startup failure, and what about backseat lighting??? Check video you won't find one, same with boot, you will use your phone, whenever you drop something at the back, which is unacceptable at this price, I could go on like back hurting from that sooo comfortable seat, on the positive side suspension is great gear changing is simple and great car is responsive, but not as efficient as video says, I've done 300miles with one charge, it's possible, but on motorway range drops significantly from 250 to around 170, which is same range in winter when you drive with heating on all day, same range I done with the smaller battery hyundai ioniq ev which has an official range of 190 miles. Overall I would not recommend for a buy. I switched to a Mitsubishi Outlander better value for money.
I’ve driven these for work. I too am really impressed with them overall
As usual a pleasant and well informed video from you. I watch them all and go green wiith envy at the expensive models that are often your subjects. At last you got around to the MG5.
I have to say your initial feelings are the echo of my own after 23,000 miles. My 3 pet hates are No1 no interior or courtesy light in the rear seating. No2 the heated mirrors are activated by switching on the rear screen heater but they don't get warm. No3 no ski hole in the centre rear seat to taken my fishing rods.
My 1st year (18,000 miles) was at 4.2 miles per kwh.
Thanks for watching and great to hear your feedback too! Noted 👍
Excellent review as always, I particularly liked Richards Mohican haircut during the stats presentation at the end.
You can find brand new. MG 5's for under £20K that's the latest version with face lift and 61 kw battery! And with support low apr if you want finance.
I had the 35kwh version in China for 4 years. 70km before selling for bigger car. Never had any issues car was very good.
You should have it in eco mode & kers 3 it’s an excellent drive.
I hope you are planning on getting a Model S 2021-2023 refresh / Model S Plaid or LR soon.
I'm with you... TESLA Model S is where it's @!
Love the MG5 best car we’ve ever had..
I love your Mohawk Halo at the end of the video. Hahaha!
I’ve had an MG5 like the test vehicle for over a year, my stats are: 57 charging cycles (mixture of home and public charges) 8497 miles, charging cost total for year was £985.70, equates to 12p per mile. Service charge was £120, battery deg to 99.5%. Very please with the car, definitely won’t be going back to an ICE. MG are also giving an amazing discount if you qualify for the Affinity Scheme of £6K on the new MG5, luckily I did qualify on my older model, and got £5k off list price. A great car, probably the best in the price range, I won’t be selling mine for a long time :)
When did you get your Mohawk haircut, approx 12 mins in 😁
It really is a pleasure to drive, quite lovely. A great summary for a affordable estate car that happens to be an EV, why didn’t I watch your MG5 review first before listening to all the journalists drivel, excellent review
We already have a Kona 64 kw/h excellent car, just watched your videos regarding this vehicle, again so much better than the journo versions, yes it will wheel spin in Sport mode on full throttle and smoke the tyres, but we never do that in the real world.
Great videos, I’ll go through a few more
Great video Richard..please do a review of the New MG 5 Long range as it looks alot better than the previous model..The only estate car I actually would have at the moment.. 😁👍
The Chinese have learned how to make great electric vehicles!
Learned, or learned to copy?
And have threatened to go to war with Russia against the West. Good value ?
@@Brian-om2hh All car manufactures copy other manufacturers ideas, all of them.
I have a SW Excite model with 17000 miles under its belt. Real world 220 in summer, 200 in winter. I drive this car the same as a normal vehicle, used for commuting, tip runs, family trips, holidays included Aberdeen. I find it best to drive in eco mode most of the time, cuts down on wheel spin, in town I use level 3 regen, level 1 on open roads. The software has “glitched” 3 or 4 times in 16 months. Just stop, turn off and lock car for a couple of minutes then start again as normal, all fixed. Full service in Lincoln less than £100 to include full AA membership for another year. On some sunny days in tourist mode I have seen 5 m/pkwhr! Awesome! In Sport Mode it’s bonkers but can be useful for overtaking in the right circumstances! Would definitely think about upgrade to new model if the deal is right. Thanks for reading.
Interesting comments Christopher. My situation is almost exactly the same as yours. I drive using ECO and level 3 regen most of the time. My average for 9 months driving is 4.4m/kWh. My daily commute ranges from 3.0m/kWh on the coldest days to 5.2 on the warmest low traffic days. I think the MG5 is good value because it only has what it needs to do the job. Its 0-60 time is nowhere near as fast as a Tesla but do I need 0-60 in 3 seconds .... not really. So the motor is smaller and costs less. Also it only has one motor not two like some Tesla models. The battery is also 'big enough'. No it won't do 300+ miles but do I need that range ... no I don't. I think the MG brand business model is clever. I am over the moon with mine - the ride quality sold it within a few 100 yards. It has nothing that it doesn't need. It reminds me of my 05 Golf estate TDI which was again genius design and value. I intend to keep mine for many years as a family trip, dump run, commuter, Dad taxi very cheap to run smart looking vehicle. I hope you have many more happy miles in yours.
great video, been without a car 2 years, and I still miss my 'S Type' Jaguar.Will the MG5 match up
Wish my £70k Audi etron came with adaptive cruise as standard!
Great review, And thanks for also putting up kwh/100km numbers when you do effeciency numbers.
as always great video. For the Model S: 170Wh/km at that temperature and for that level of car is amazing!
regaeding the MG5: is it only me or does it look from front and back a bit like a VW Passat?
It has a steering wheel from a Passat (seriously) so it really does that feeling!
@@RSEV SAIC builds VWs. We had a ZSEV and it was well built and the VW parts bin very evident!
I’ve had a lot of VW’s, in fact we still have one and the MG’s seem to have all VW switches, even the climate control is VW by the look of it, the door lock buttons, steering wheel controls. That’s good because i’ve never had to replace any VW switches and i’ve had cars on 200k where everything still works.
@@redcrow2006 my wife has a VW Golf 7 Variant Diesel. Absolute reliable nice car and extremely efficient 👍
I was thinking the same thing re similarity to a Passat. The interior design seems very "inspired" by the Passat. Not a bad thing.
Another great video. Please could you test and review the MG ZS mk2 2022 😊
Great review mate an I'll show my dad this
Now being retired and looking for my first EV, my wife and I test drove the latest version of this vehicle. Actually I was surprised how small it actually was, in videos it looks Passat size, but really a segment below. I found that shoulder to shoulder room quite cramped, and seats were hard in the rear. Once I put my grandsons baby seat in the rear, there was only room for one more passenger. I agree it scores in the value for money stakes, and drives quite well, but it got a no from she who must be obeyed, so the search goes on.
Go for the Tesla Model S! Plenty of space
Interestingly this is the pre-facelift model which recently went on sale which has a nicer interior and better front styling (according to some)
I've also seen the newer face-lifted version with a black coloured front panel, presumably to give a more conventional look for those who prefer that.....
MG are setting the trend for moderately priced electric cars. Puts most other money grabbing manufacturers to shame.
11:45 "I ain't gettin on no plane" 🤣
Good video as normal - did you ever do a full review of the MG5?
"She Who Must be Obeyed"! fellow watcher here. :)
Hi, thanks for the video. Driving up the M3 from Bournemouth to Winchester today the white lines are very difficult to see. The painted over lines that have been altered for the roadworks reflect the light so it becomes difficult to distinguish the white lines from the supposedly obscured ones. Question: how does Lane Assist respond to this? Usually the first thing we do is turn it off? In theory it should be helpful on motorways, less so on country lanes ! My wife hates being dragged about by our Peugeots lane assist. How do different vehicles respond?
Could you make a video or have you already done one about the fact or myth how often supercharging is killing the battery? In theory it's kind of obvious that fast charging does make battery to degrade but maybe Tesla thought about it in advance and introduced some battery management system. Otherwise they would've changeв most of the dead batteries by warranty.
Nice review as always👍
Nigel! We only find out "his" name when he leaves for good! 😂😂
Do you think you could try one of them Vietnam
VinFast VF 8 & VF 9 Electric SUV EV's
Fab 'first impressions' video, as always, Richard.
You know what... whilst I'm sure it's wonderful to have the opportunity to drive some pretty darned expensive, luxury EVs, but, for the majority of UK buyers, all they want is an honest, reliable, dependable workhorse car at a realistic price and the MG5 delivers this in spades - no wonder there are dozens of these being hard-used as taxis up and down the country.
Great work, dude 😎
Nice review. any chance to have a review of new Model Y RWD with the LFP battery?
Rich has got real left foot resting place beef of late 😂
Ha I really notice it now that the bmw i4 made an issue out of it
There is a refreshed model out now looks better
Yes I’m looking forward to trying that and seeing if they’ve tweaked a couple of the things that lack…. Wireless charger, wireless car play, led headlights…
@RSEV great news , look forward to the review 😀
Great video. I'm interested in this car as well since it's the only EV estate. I'm looking for something to replace an ageing Passat but I really like all the features it has so wouldn't like to settle for less. The MG5 seems to tick like 95% of all the boxes, it even looks a bit like a Passat hah. I look forward to seeing your review of the new one which I think looks like a Kia, the addition of vehicle to load is nice too.
@RSymons_RSEV go away scammer.
You made a great choice! Tesla has too many issues.
Can't really fault my MG5 52kw Exclusive, but it's not very exciting. It's been faultless in three years but I yearn for a Tesla. Then I see a video of problems being found on a 14,000 mile model 3. Sheesh, torn.
Thought it was a vw Passat from the front lol
Yea, it's not the prettiest thing but if you can live with that, happy days.
9:08 it doesn’t use regen on Cruise Control (same on ZS EV) which is a shame.., it uses friction brakes. 🤷♂️
not bad first impressions... waiting for MG4 over here in Australia, so I can test drive it...expected to be 55k AUD.
Cool good luck! How long to wait? Mg4 vid: ruclips.net/video/sw3yADy-Pgw/видео.html
@@RSEV in no hurry. Also a new Kona is due here as well next year sometime.
Still love an IONIC 5, but can I justify the price out of our Pension Fund.
PS: brought up in Lower Parkstone....
"we're only making plans for Nigel" (XTC song)
All that and it was the old MG5....!! The new MG5 has better displays and faster software.
Looking forward to trying one… @mguk?
Having looked at this and the MG4 earlier in the year, I can't work out if MG is too cheap or the rest are ripping us off?!
I'd love to know what profit SAIC make out of each of these vehicles?!
we may well be being ripped off.
I have a MG ZS EV 1st gen and its great. Software isn’t the fastest but it’s totally fine to live with and the car is great.
To answer your question I think the MG5 sells for £14k new and MG4 sells for £15k new over in China so yes they're cheap but they still make a lot of profit and are ripping us off. European cars are built much better and that's reflected in the price, also it helps European Jobs and doesn't send money to China. The only reason you see more European cars break down with costly repair bills is because some people are stupid and don't get the car serviced and also when was the last time you saw a petrol or diesel Chinese car on the road ? I rest my case !
@@philipcrossley1279 I guess you've never read the small print on MG's reducing 7 year warranty ? Most of it is only covered for 12 months ! Given the number of European cars on the road you would expect to see some break down however I've never seen a European electric car break down and also how many Chinese petrol and diesel cars do you see driving about ? Chinese cars are perfect for the 1st owner who plans to keep it for 3 or 4 years and that's what drives sales, MG couldn't care less about the longevity of their product or if it will be king of the used car forecourt or not.
My Model S 75D has seen 300mph charging briefly, it's in with Tesla at the mo so not sure if latest update improves that?? Loaner model 3 just charged at 600mph....
Whilst these MGs look outstanding value, I’m told that they’re plagued with software issues (especially the MG4), but this is just anecdotal. I’d love to know more about the reliability of EV brands over the long term.
Check out the MGEV forum for lots of information, tips and advice from owners.
I bet they have a lot better fit and finish than Teslas! LOL! That's the achilles heel of Tesla, that and their crummy service.
@@joeking433 was looking at a new model 3 in the Chester showroom last weekend, panel gaps and paint were perfect. It was really difficult to fault it. Also, and I can only speak for Tesla Chester (and MK) but service has always been spot on.
@@nikelliot8105 LOL! It's hard to believe a Tesla cultist with his PR bullshit. Sorry. Just do a search on RUclips for "Tesla fit and finish problems" for the TRUTH! Nice try!
I've had mine on lease for over a year. The software is rock solid, the problem is it's underpowered chip inside making it not very responsive. If you plug in Android Auto/CarPlay for maps then it's no issue. The current MG5 that replaced it has a completely newer and different interface and isn't laggy
Ah was expecting the current MG5, that's not a 2022 MG5 in the video it's the 2020, the 2022 is redesigned and has a modern interior
Greetings from Canada. Thank you for these reviews, I appreciate your thoughts as you are especially well positioned to render opinions as you have the opportunity to drive many different EVs. I do have one question... The UK is a metric country but you speak of distances in miles, efficiency in miles per Kwh and speeds in miles per hour. What's the reason for this continued usage of the imperial measurement system?
Hi Canada and thanks for watching. Yes the UK imperial v Metric is simply messed up. Some things just won’t change and now used to this weird hybrid cocktail…
@@RSEV Plus it is impossible to give any sort of *miles* per gallon type comparison, as electricity is sold per kwh........
Good review Richard and looks like a great car, but I would probably find it hard to buy vs other brands in that pond; your view on future residuals would be interesting.
10:52 oops 😆
That's a good MG5
Nice
I have an MG ZS EV Trophy LR since about Oct.
Charging speeds max at about 76kwh for about 10 mins, then drop to 36 - 49 (from a 150kwh rapid charger).
Since owning it, I've never got aboe 3kwh, usually 2.5 kwh max. I don't drive like a lunatic either.
Do other MG ZS EV Trophy LR owners have the same issue with the kwh efficiency?
How long to charge it 10% to at least 80%? And I don't mean what MG say. I mean proper charging when it's done by yourself.
you should check the MG5 2022, much better and much cleaner
may want to add to the subscribe bit to recheck as i was unsubscribed by youtube !!
Which car is best? Im looking to buy a used EV and looking at a choice of 6 year old Model S or 2/3 year old MG5.
I’d go with a facelift mg5. Great used prices, 7 year warranty and good reliability as it’s been around a few years in china.
The pre facelift infortainment is basic but good enough but there’s no app support for charging timer etc so facelift model is better. Compare prices
Pre-face lift mg5
Hello mate
Test drove one of these at Fully Charged Live and was underwhelmed - I found the steering vague and it ran out of grip pretty quickly on roundabouts, without much provocation.
If I were to name MY car Nigel - or even Richard - people would think me a bit strange…. 😂
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Can you do the MG4 as well pease
ruclips.net/video/sw3yADy-Pgw/видео.html
If the MG was traded in its unusual to move from a car thats less than a year old to one with over 80k miles on it.
Yes but it's still an upgrade through.....
The model S had under 50k miles. But they’re just the ultimate long range EVs and with superb software too
It's all about those Superchargers if you're doing distance.
I believe that the reason was made clear for that unusual move. The new owner required an even longer daily range.
The more reviews of electric cars I see the more I don’t want one .
Great. Don’t buy one and maybe stop watching the reviews?
@@tomwebb7416 😇
The MG5 is literally just about to have a facelift , so probably not the most representative views
It just had one a few months ago.......
@@Brian-om2hh Yup but its getting a completely new facelift, in 2023 and will be completely different
Please don't adjust the steering wheel while you are driving. Good review
MG or VW Passat sedan?
😲😲
Looks like a VW imo but cheaper
Keep left if not overtaking. 🤣. 11:30 you look like you have a Mohican hair doo.
I see EV second hand prices have continued to fall this month again, whilst ice second hand car prices are rising still, similar to lithium ion battery capacity, sand flowing away in an hour glass. There is a reason EV prices are falling, nobody wants them after all the bad press and reality dawning.
Shame it's the outgoing model of the MG5
Does the ccp get your data?
Creating an electric car is the perfect opportunity to create a car from the ground up and re-inventing the driving experience. What has MG done with the interior of this? Absolutely nothing.
The MG5 isn't an EV from the ground up. In other parts of the world you can get them with a petrol engine.
have a look at the BYD eto3. saw one yesterday. funky inside....will date imo. the MG5 is just a work car, like thousands of other cars...
Nice car, terrible looking styling